Speaker 1: Sure everything, Uh, all right, here we go. We're in
Speaker 1: the building. We finally made it happen. Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: Miss bridget Todd say, what's up everybody? What's up everybody.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to be here. Thank you for having me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a special show. Uh tried to
Speaker 1: schedule a few times. Bridget was hella busy out at
Speaker 1: south By? You know what I'm saying, making boss moves?
Speaker 1: How was that? Like? How was south By? It was good.
Speaker 1: I've been a couple of times. It was good. I
Speaker 1: will have to say. The thing that I thought was
Speaker 1: the best experience was seeing all the different you know,
Speaker 1: reproductive freedom activists and advocates and like trans advocates and
Speaker 1: activists who were really taking up space for themselves in
Speaker 1: a state like Texas. Um So, that was definitely the
Speaker 1: best part of the experience was seeing how many of
Speaker 1: those folks just really came there and took up space
Speaker 1: and made their voices heard. So it was a great time.
Speaker 1: That's dough man. I know, like my experiences first out,
Speaker 1: like I always I'm an artists. I always went that
Speaker 1: last week, you know what I mean. I never got
Speaker 1: to go to any of the like tech or like
Speaker 1: film or any of the other stuff. You know. So
Speaker 1: like my experience always with South Buy is like I'm exhausted,
Speaker 1: you know. I stayed up too late. I went to
Speaker 1: things that I didn't need to go to. You know.
Speaker 1: I was like trying my best to you know. You
Speaker 1: you you rush in and carrying DJ equipment to like
Speaker 1: four different locations and you're just rapping to other rappers.
Speaker 1: And I I guess that was dope, But I'm never
Speaker 1: sad I was there, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so this is the difference between your work and my
Speaker 1: work and our experiences. I'm always there really early for
Speaker 1: the nerdy stuff, you know, like like here's a panel
Speaker 1: on climate, or like here's a talk about education, and
Speaker 1: I usually am gone for the actual fun stuff that
Speaker 1: people actually want to see, the music and the performances.
Speaker 1: One day I will be able to go and stick
Speaker 1: around to actually see something, to see you, And one
Speaker 1: day I'm gonna do the other way around. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to the like grown up stuff man,
Speaker 1: where I'm just not like sweating all night, you know,
Speaker 1: holding a trillion mixtapes. You know what I'm saying like
Speaker 1: this that would be i feel like a much better
Speaker 1: experience at this point. I'm like unless like like Rolling
Speaker 1: Stones themselves are like, yo, we want you to headline,
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm not going because like it is so
Speaker 1: hard as an artist there if you don't have like
Speaker 1: a really good showcase, it's so hard. But when you go,
Speaker 1: have you gone with a part of as part of
Speaker 1: a team, do you have a crew with you or
Speaker 1: you go you go with like usually like the game
Speaker 1: for artists, funny says nothing to do what we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about This is a hood politics podcast, but we'll
Speaker 1: get to that in a second. Usually go like you
Speaker 1: get one good showcase that will be like this is
Speaker 1: worth the plane ticket, you know, and all of the
Speaker 1: hustle to get around, and then as you're there, then
Speaker 1: you start sort of like politicking and networking to see
Speaker 1: if you could get on other things. But when you
Speaker 1: do come, if it's a good showcase, then yeah, you're
Speaker 1: bringing like you know, your sound guy, your manager, you
Speaker 1: know your DJ, your drummer or whatever you got um,
Speaker 1: but you're you're legit, like like yo, you on your own,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like you're footing it down
Speaker 1: six streets the whole time. You know, you don't bring
Speaker 1: merch because it's like no one's buying merch, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like that's not why they'd air. You're you're you're,
Speaker 1: you're paying for everything out of pocket, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's like it's not like a regular
Speaker 1: tour date where you could like go out and make money.
Speaker 1: And then what's crazy is like the last few times
Speaker 1: with south By, they a lot of the like the
Speaker 1: stage managers are sound people, they're volunteer, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, So they don't really know what they're doing,
Speaker 1: you know, And it's like depending on again the quality
Speaker 1: of your showcase. You got a lot of like you know,
Speaker 1: struggle rappers who are like I think they're more amazing
Speaker 1: than they are, so they showing up late, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So the whole schedule, you're trying to
Speaker 1: be professional. You're like, yo, I'm on an eleven, so
Speaker 1: I'm here at you know, ten, ten, fifteen, Like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Here plug in, I have my
Speaker 1: own mike, you know what I'm saying. The last one,
Speaker 1: the last one I did. The sound person that they
Speaker 1: had at our venue like, uh was I want to say,
Speaker 1: like Eastern European, like from like a Slavic region, and
Speaker 1: just didn't speak English. And it was like, I'm glad
Speaker 1: you're there. That's dope. I love I like y'o, like
Speaker 1: I honor that hustle to get yourself to South south By,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But you running the stage
Speaker 1: and I'm like, hey, I can't hear the monitor and
Speaker 1: she was She was like it's good, and I'm like, no, no,
Speaker 1: you know, the MIC's not out. The the MIC's not
Speaker 1: coming out. The monitor had no idea what I was saying.
Speaker 1: So I'm looking, I'm like, yo, the sound person don't
Speaker 1: speak I think I don't think the sound person speak English.
Speaker 1: And the dude that was running was like, yeah, I know, man,
Speaker 1: So just you just gotta do your best. I was like, yeah, dog,
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not doing this game. Yeah, it's definitely
Speaker 1: a lot of do your best energy. Definitely how I
Speaker 1: would describe it. Yes, that's perfect, but it's but then
Speaker 1: you leave and you're like, I'm so glad I did
Speaker 1: that. That That was so fun. I met so many dope people.
Speaker 1: It's like, anyway, we're all over the place. Welcome to
Speaker 1: her politics. Bridget you have a show called Tell Everybody
Speaker 1: what's the show is called? My show was called There
Speaker 1: Are No Girls on the Internet, and it's a podcast
Speaker 1: about technology, the Internet, identity, culture, underrepresented voices, and all
Speaker 1: of that fun stuff. That's so it's such a clever
Speaker 1: title because when I first heard it, I was like,
Speaker 1: what do you say? Really? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: It's like, it's like this never INDI it's almost like
Speaker 1: the White Supremacy Project, where it's like there's never it's
Speaker 1: a never ending black hole of areas where that's affected
Speaker 1: our life, you know what I'm saying. So when when
Speaker 1: it comes to like, you know, gender issues me as
Speaker 1: as a as like a cis gender male, Like, I
Speaker 1: keep falling more into that black hole of like what
Speaker 1: do you mean there's no girls? I was like, is
Speaker 1: that yet another place that that equipment at bien subject?
Speaker 1: Are you serious there too? You know I'm saying so
Speaker 1: that really by experience, by hearing that title, Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: so glad to hear you say this. I get a
Speaker 1: lot of questions about the title, and you really just
Speaker 1: perfectly summarized why I picked that title, even though it
Speaker 1: is a mouthful. Every time I type it, I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh God, why did I pick such a long time
Speaker 1: her podcast? But yeah, I think, you know, seeing seeing
Speaker 1: the ways that traditionally marginalized people are um continue to
Speaker 1: be uh you know, oppressed and sort of not really
Speaker 1: letting our voices shine through. It completely crosses over onto
Speaker 1: the Internet, onto other technical realms, and so I just
Speaker 1: really wanted to But the thing is, I know that
Speaker 1: it's traditionally marginalized people, women, queer folks, transports, black folks
Speaker 1: who are actually doing such amazing things on the Internet.
Speaker 1: So it doesn't really make sense then that our voices
Speaker 1: and our stories underrepresented there in this realm that really
Speaker 1: we make so special. That's so true, and that's like, yes,
Speaker 1: like yes, that's what I was gonna say. That's why
Speaker 1: it was such a shock to me because when I
Speaker 1: go and I'm like, it's not like I don't believe you,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I'm like, you know, like,
Speaker 1: oh wow, okay, teach me something. But in the same
Speaker 1: way that like, you know, because we're in those marginalized communities,
Speaker 1: because I know I know hundreds of black people in tech.
Speaker 1: You don't say, I know, I don't hundreds of women.
Speaker 1: I know hundreds of queer folks that are doing you know,
Speaker 1: epic ship that I'm like, you just realize, like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's just my world because I am intersectional in the
Speaker 1: way that I live my life, you know I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'm around all these intersections that you
Speaker 1: just you'd be forgetting, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: you'll be forgetting everybody else saying that, you know, when
Speaker 1: people little things like for example, like you know, I'm
Speaker 1: from l A. I'm like, I grew up in South
Speaker 1: Central and surrounding areas. So I'm like, I can't think
Speaker 1: of any sort of marginalized like ethnic group that hasn't
Speaker 1: stratified every socio economic class, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because that's just the way we lived. I was like,
Speaker 1: my principle in high school was queer. My boss Jo saying,
Speaker 1: it's like, so you just have this like this A
Speaker 1: lot of times for me, it's like I find myself
Speaker 1: having to even though I live in the spaces as
Speaker 1: a marginalized person, but involved with other marginalized people I
Speaker 1: need to be reminded sometimes that like my world, just
Speaker 1: because I live with y'all don't necessarily mean I really
Speaker 1: understand everybody else's experience as they leave sort of the
Speaker 1: safe spaces we all exist in. You know what I'm saying, absolutely,
Speaker 1: And I think the thing that you the comparison you
Speaker 1: made about California, I think really tracks with my experience
Speaker 1: is because I've been in some level of tech or
Speaker 1: tech adjacent for most of my adult life, and in
Speaker 1: all of that work, the people who I've been working
Speaker 1: with are black folks, brown folks, queer folks, you know, transpolkes,
Speaker 1: all of that. And so when you look around and
Speaker 1: you see who gets elevated, whose voices gets amplified, whose
Speaker 1: project gets funding, or whatever, those people are all white,
Speaker 1: cis gender heterosexual men. That's a choice. That's not because
Speaker 1: there's that's it's not there exactly exactly. Somebody has made
Speaker 1: a deliberate choice, and that's why you're not seeing us bang,
Speaker 1: which actually leads us to what I want to talk
Speaker 1: about today. I want to talk about the art of
Speaker 1: Captain Captain cap cap cap cap cap cap cap cap,
Speaker 1: and I feel like there was nobody better like I
Speaker 1: almost did this by myself, but I was like, nah, nah,
Speaker 1: there's nobody better to talk about this situation than this
Speaker 1: bridget here. So first of all, for the folks, if
Speaker 1: you don't know, let's me and you come up with
Speaker 1: like a working definition of what we mean by CAP.
Speaker 1: I don't know if people have heard that before, like
Speaker 1: he capping all that's cap, you know, and you start
Speaker 1: playing with it, you know, black folks, I will start
Speaker 1: playing with it like, oh, that's Captain Crunch, that's Captain America.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Captain Marvel like which just everything is cat. Right. So
Speaker 1: if you were to put a working definition on CAP,
Speaker 1: what do you what would you define that as? And
Speaker 1: no urban dictionary people like, let's let's talk. I would
Speaker 1: define CAP or cap in as lying as you know,
Speaker 1: it's to saying something that's not true, deliberately that you
Speaker 1: know is not true. Boom. That's part of the thing
Speaker 1: is you have to know it's not true, right if
Speaker 1: or or if not, then you're just misinformed. But like,
Speaker 1: if you cap in like you notice is not true,
Speaker 1: what do you think the purpose of CAP is? Oh? God,
Speaker 1: I mean it can be anything, right, so the majority.
Speaker 1: So in my so I should say, in my nine job,
Speaker 1: I research and study disinformation and misinformation. And so the
Speaker 1: definition that you just gave is perfect because the working
Speaker 1: definition of disinformation to somebody who is lying on purpose
Speaker 1: to deceive, misinformation to somebody who they're not trying to
Speaker 1: mislead you, they're just saying something that's not true and
Speaker 1: they don't realize it. And so we have seen some
Speaker 1: of the reasons why people cap The biggest one I
Speaker 1: would have to say that I see over and over
Speaker 1: again is for some kind of personal game, so personal gain.
Speaker 1: So just scamming, right, just like I'm going to say
Speaker 1: something that's not true because it's going to at me money, notoriety,
Speaker 1: more fame, more attention. You know, even if you're not
Speaker 1: a disinformation researcher, you know a scam when you see one, right,
Speaker 1: you know, we all know what a scammer looks like. Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1: And I am sitting across the zoom from I feel
Speaker 1: like God has blessed the specific part of our species,
Speaker 1: the black woman, with the greatest cap radar of anybody
Speaker 1: on earth. Like I don't know anybody that can like
Speaker 1: suss out some cap better than black women. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: I'm so. I mean, it's true, right, It's absolutely true.
Speaker 1: And and in on the podcast, we have covered story
Speaker 1: after story of somebody is lying, somebody is pretending to
Speaker 1: be somebody they're not, and nine times out of ten
Speaker 1: and it is a black woman who is sniffing an
Speaker 1: albit like, I'm not so sure about this. I don't
Speaker 1: sit right exactly, you know what I'm saying. I don't
Speaker 1: own a little little little sussed. I don't sit right.
Speaker 1: Uh So in your personal or professional whatever one you're
Speaker 1: more comfortable with, like I am positive out, I would
Speaker 1: willing to bet money that you have been in scenarios
Speaker 1: whether it was directly to you or you're sitting adjacent
Speaker 1: to someone in some sort of meeting that is just
Speaker 1: is just the most like mid mediocre person, just like
Speaker 1: spitting some of the most ridiculous absurd like is anybody
Speaker 1: is anybody actually believe in this stuff? And then it
Speaker 1: may and then sometimes I'm a work right, So if
Speaker 1: you can, you know, try to dig into the archives,
Speaker 1: like think of the one or two of the most
Speaker 1: absurd like moments personal or professional where somebody was just
Speaker 1: capping either to you or around you, that you just like,
Speaker 1: is this full for real? Oh my gosh, how much
Speaker 1: time do you have? I mean, I think that's the
Speaker 1: thing about being in tech and tech adjacent. I have
Speaker 1: had to sit through a lot of conversations with somebody
Speaker 1: who I knew was lying to my face and it
Speaker 1: wasn't or or it wasn't even clear to me that
Speaker 1: they knew they were lying. So much of tech is
Speaker 1: people believing their own hype ego, you know, fake it
Speaker 1: till you make it kind of thing, you know, I
Speaker 1: would to the biggest one that I that I personally
Speaker 1: have witnessed is people, usually white men, who have some
Speaker 1: kind of a product that they are selling, that they
Speaker 1: are pitching as this is going to be the thing
Speaker 1: that saves the Internet, that fixes the Internet, that makes
Speaker 1: the internet, you know, a better place to be, a
Speaker 1: more honest place, and you know, it's just half of
Speaker 1: them are just sort of low key scams. And the
Speaker 1: way that people talk about these ventures it's almost sort
Speaker 1: of impressive because it's like, Wow, you really have a
Speaker 1: confidence about about this thing that I am pretty sure
Speaker 1: is it's like mostly bullshit. Yeah. I was like, you've
Speaker 1: you've you've worked out maybe none of the coding is done,
Speaker 1: like and I know it's not because I could tell
Speaker 1: by the terms you're using exactly. And I think that,
Speaker 1: like that's one of the reasons why right now, you
Speaker 1: see all of the people are sort of obsessed with
Speaker 1: like scams like an adelviv fire festival, because you know,
Speaker 1: I think that we have this weird fine line of
Speaker 1: where where is something just the typical tech company, you know,
Speaker 1: like process of fake until you make it, Like companies
Speaker 1: like Uber they don't make any money, but yet we
Speaker 1: think of them as successful companies. Where is the line
Speaker 1: between that between just the normal things in tech companies
Speaker 1: and an actual scam. I think that that the blurring
Speaker 1: of that line is why we're so sort of fascinated
Speaker 1: by people who really just lie for a living. I
Speaker 1: would love for you to go back and just restate
Speaker 1: what you just slid by so slickly, which was that
Speaker 1: Uber don't make no money. Yeah. Uber does not make
Speaker 1: any money. They have never been a profitable company, which
Speaker 1: when you think about that, yes, yeah, so that's why
Speaker 1: they ain't not trying to like like actually hire these
Speaker 1: people right right exactly, because like, well we're not making
Speaker 1: no money though that yeah, ah, you just you just
Speaker 1: enlighten me on something I never even thought of that
Speaker 1: that like, yeah, how could they They don't own none
Speaker 1: of it. And so I think exactly, and I think
Speaker 1: that where where is the line between between just the
Speaker 1: normal you know, business of tech companies like Uber and
Speaker 1: actual scamming. I'm like, wow, that's crazy. WHOA Okay? So Cap,
Speaker 1: like we said, it's like it's a purposeful lie and
Speaker 1: for our sake, for the sake of Cloud in whatever way,
Speaker 1: whether it's money or fame or our access and anybody,
Speaker 1: Like I said, if you've ever seen a rap video
Speaker 1: or listen to any sort of music, you like, the
Speaker 1: cars are rented, you know, the you know, the jewelry
Speaker 1: is fake. You know what I'm saying. It's it's cap,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But but it's like sometimes
Speaker 1: there's like this like sort of understanding that it's part
Speaker 1: of the job, you know what I mean. And in
Speaker 1: a weird like you like you was kind of explaining
Speaker 1: with tech, it's like some of it's like yo, that's
Speaker 1: just part of the game. It is fake until you
Speaker 1: make it. You know what I'm saying, You're not gonna
Speaker 1: run in there and be like, hey, I need you
Speaker 1: to pay me ten million dollars for a half finished product,
Speaker 1: you know, like like no, I have to I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna give you some no, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, I had a cap for a little bit,
Speaker 1: like you know, and use some sort of intentional you know,
Speaker 1: very intuitive, incarnational you know, community building. You gotta do
Speaker 1: the hand thing, you know. I wish I could see
Speaker 1: this lots of gestures, you know, the you know, kind
Speaker 1: of kind of putting things. Yeah, but so like cats
Speaker 1: kind of like part of the game. I think the
Speaker 1: next part I want to do is like, let's talk
Speaker 1: about a couple of different kings of cat and maybe
Speaker 1: we can uh possibly crown the king of cap here.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm so excited. Yes, this is. This
Speaker 1: is There's never been a question that I am more
Speaker 1: prepared to answer because I think about this a lot.
Speaker 1: I know you are. So let's I would like Russian
Speaker 1: cap right now, that's in the news, you know, Russian
Speaker 1: TV talking about Ukrainians uh using human shields and then
Speaker 1: not letting nobody else have news shows on a TV.
Speaker 1: It's like, don't yo, don't ask cap you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying and throwing these like clearly like Trump style,
Speaker 1: like you know, rallies like quote Bible scriptures, which is
Speaker 1: to me probably the most bizarro world thing that I've
Speaker 1: ever seen come out of Russian modern And it's like
Speaker 1: are you did you just just quote the Bible right now?
Speaker 1: Like I was like, I feel like yo, yo, cap
Speaker 1: Wing and the like conservative white evangelical cap Wing needs
Speaker 1: to have a meeting because y'are not on the same
Speaker 1: page no more. Absolutely. I mean I remember I I
Speaker 1: can't remember who it was, but it was some um
Speaker 1: like right wing elected official or person who was like
Speaker 1: running for office who was at the Republican gathering. It
Speaker 1: happened just recently, talking about how she liked Russia because
Speaker 1: they were a Christian nation and all of this. Like
Speaker 1: it was like like what happening? What? Yeah? I was like,
Speaker 1: what is this? When did y'all what? And it's almost
Speaker 1: like that's the part that like blow my mind. I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: y'all can't even keep up with your own stories, because
Speaker 1: number one, it's like, well, they've always had a Russian
Speaker 1: Orthodox Church. So even when you was saying that there
Speaker 1: was a completely godless secular culture. I was like, well,
Speaker 1: they they have their own church. It's just so you're
Speaker 1: already wrong, you know what I'm saying. And then but
Speaker 1: that was y'all's line, and now it's not your line,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what that's kind It's well, it's one
Speaker 1: of those situations. Do you ever know somebody who scams
Speaker 1: and lies and caps so much they can't even keep
Speaker 1: their own bs straight? Like that's what it is. Where
Speaker 1: it's like, it can't be be some of these things
Speaker 1: contradict each other. They all can't true. Which one is it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know how y'all like, how are
Speaker 1: y'all okay? And then so then at that point you're
Speaker 1: looking at the rest of the audience like, hey, y'all,
Speaker 1: ain't hear that? Like, well, luckily she was speaking at
Speaker 1: like a Republican um. I can't remember. I want to
Speaker 1: say it was spac or turning qu Luckily for her.
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody in the crowd was really like,
Speaker 1: m let me put on my critical thinking. Happened minute? Yes,
Speaker 1: I was taught my entire life. They were the access
Speaker 1: of evil, y'all saying the picture of everything ungodly that's
Speaker 1: what you told me. They was throughout the entirety of
Speaker 1: my middle school. Now all of a sudden, okay, got you.
Speaker 1: Uh and you you've been doing working in disinformation and
Speaker 1: like you know, troll farms, twitter bots and all this
Speaker 1: such that you know, some of it comes out of
Speaker 1: the Eastern Block, some of it does not. UM that
Speaker 1: I would love to hear you, like like put us
Speaker 1: on game right now on how where that's come from,
Speaker 1: how it's evolved, how it's gotten more sophisticated, and how
Speaker 1: we probably have all fell for it. Oh. I mean
Speaker 1: I work in disinformation for Olympic and I've definitely fallen
Speaker 1: for it. UM. I think I would like to say
Speaker 1: there's sort of two kind of buckets to be thinking
Speaker 1: of this in UM. One is the you know, foreign
Speaker 1: born bad actors who use things like bots and what
Speaker 1: we in authentic accounts to spread confusion on the Internet.
Speaker 1: And then you have you know, domestic bad actors. And
Speaker 1: I think that before the invasion of Ukraine, I think
Speaker 1: that we were focused a lot on you know, foreign
Speaker 1: bad actors meddling on on our on our social media
Speaker 1: platforms and on our elections and things like that to
Speaker 1: the point where we were not not often talking enough
Speaker 1: about sort of domestic bad actors doing the same thing
Speaker 1: or like so, but I think that with the Asian
Speaker 1: of Ukraine, we have you know, renewed a renewed urgency
Speaker 1: around talking about and authentic accounts being driven by by
Speaker 1: foreign actors, and so Russia has a very long history
Speaker 1: of using an authentic accounts too, specifically target black folks
Speaker 1: on social media. One of my favorite episodes I've ever
Speaker 1: done on the podcast is talking to a woman, a
Speaker 1: black woman, Chefika Hudson, who was really among the first
Speaker 1: people to start sniffing out these and authentic accounts. These
Speaker 1: accounts would pretend to be black women. They would they
Speaker 1: would say things, or they would use like a like
Speaker 1: a picture on their Twitter profile of a black woman
Speaker 1: that they just stole from the Internet, and they would
Speaker 1: basically just say outlandish stuff trying to supread confusion and
Speaker 1: chaos and mistrust and so a lot of times what
Speaker 1: you see the ultimate goal of these bad actors is
Speaker 1: to spread mistrust. So like I don't trust you, you
Speaker 1: don't trust me. Neither of us trust institutions or less
Speaker 1: it officials just generally create a vibe of mistrust, and
Speaker 1: so Shouldika huts In. Luckily, as a black woman, really
Speaker 1: was able to snip this out. And the way that
Speaker 1: she was able to snip this out was so genius.
Speaker 1: It was because these accounts would try to mimic the
Speaker 1: way that black women speak but get it crazy wrong.
Speaker 1: They would say things, Yeah, that's what would catch me.
Speaker 1: That's the part that would give me because we don't
Speaker 1: ever refer ourselves as the blacks exactly. Yeah, but whenever
Speaker 1: you ever heard a black person referred to like ourselves,
Speaker 1: our community as v blacks a black never, I've never
Speaker 1: heard that. We've never done that. That that was gonna
Speaker 1: be like, I was gonna say, yo yo first that
Speaker 1: her saying that, because that's used to what happened to me.
Speaker 1: You know, you get these replies and you're looking at
Speaker 1: the profile picture and I'm like, Oh, it's a black dude,
Speaker 1: but I'm listening to him talk and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're not black at all, homie, like you know, and
Speaker 1: it's like and it's not even on some like listen,
Speaker 1: there's a diversity of thought, you know, you can have
Speaker 1: different political views. Were not a monolith, so I can
Speaker 1: here you know and at least understand a very like
Speaker 1: fiscally conservatives, you know, socially liberal constitutional is black, dude,
Speaker 1: He's still going to talk like a black dude, like
Speaker 1: there is an author that That's the thing. There is
Speaker 1: an authenticity to our experience. There is nothing like we
Speaker 1: the black community, of the black, black and brown folks.
Speaker 1: We are vast, we contain so many, you know, we're
Speaker 1: very multifaceted, and that's one of the parts, one of
Speaker 1: the beautiful parts of our community. But there's still going
Speaker 1: to be an underlying authenticity and right and so I
Speaker 1: think that is I just love how as black women
Speaker 1: identifying these fake accounts that kind of becomes our superpower.
Speaker 1: The ability to see and understand black authentic expression. That
Speaker 1: is something that really saved us and gave us the
Speaker 1: ability to protect our own online communities against bad actors. Yes, yes, facts,
Speaker 1: I love it, dude, and I and I've even experienced
Speaker 1: on my on and somebody that's like what I started
Speaker 1: naming myself as, like overwoke, where it was almost like
Speaker 1: a bad actor on the other end, like you're trying
Speaker 1: to like round me up on some on some like
Speaker 1: my father is a black panther. So I'm like, I
Speaker 1: already know that they've like whatever data they used to mind,
Speaker 1: whatever I am and who I follow and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: You already know, like what terms you're supposed to drop
Speaker 1: on me, you know what I'm saying. And then and
Speaker 1: then the issues for which they're picking up on and
Speaker 1: how angry they are and what And I'm just like,
Speaker 1: because again, like you said, there's an authenticity of the experience,
Speaker 1: because at some point, I'm gonna be like, hey, bro,
Speaker 1: you need to chill, Like you know what I'm saying, Like, hey, fam,
Speaker 1: like listen, listen, happy, thanks taking, I get it, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like, we don't celebrate the Pilgrims,
Speaker 1: you know, but these the Kyla Green slap we all
Speaker 1: go home anything we understand. We have this dual consciousness, bro, Like,
Speaker 1: hey fam, Like, yo, chill. You not at your grandma
Speaker 1: house right now? Now? You're not real, do you not? Even?
Speaker 1: You know what I say exactly, And I love how
Speaker 1: you put that. And isn't that dual consciousness, that dual
Speaker 1: experience that is such an authentic part of how all
Speaker 1: of us show up? I feel um? And then I
Speaker 1: just want to say something else to your point about
Speaker 1: you know, these overwoke people who you feel like are
Speaker 1: trying to roll you up. The answer is probably that
Speaker 1: is exactly what's going on. You know. One thing that
Speaker 1: we see a lot about the way that disinformers and
Speaker 1: bad actors operate online is that they use things that
Speaker 1: are legitimate tensions that exist in our community, or legitimate fractures,
Speaker 1: fractures particularly things that are like sensitive or difficult to
Speaker 1: talk about that we don't talk about. So a good
Speaker 1: example would be tensions between black folks and Latino folks, right,
Speaker 1: And so we've seen bad actors time and time again
Speaker 1: exploit that specific tension that does actually exist. And so,
Speaker 1: you know, and just another point to your point, um,
Speaker 1: during the summer, when we saw all of those you know,
Speaker 1: uprisings and protests around the globe pro racial justice, Twitter
Speaker 1: actually confirmed and I think Facebook did too. They don't
Speaker 1: quote me on that, I know that Twitter did. They
Speaker 1: confirmed that some of the people who you might have
Speaker 1: thought were black folks on social media who were you know,
Speaker 1: inviting people to to you know, participate in violent activities
Speaker 1: like oh, we're gonna go we're upset about racial justice.
Speaker 1: We're going to go to a white suburban burn it down.
Speaker 1: Those were run by white supremacists, right, Like these platforms
Speaker 1: have confirmed that. And so if you if you ever
Speaker 1: feel like somebody online is posing as a black person
Speaker 1: and really trying to rile you up along something that
Speaker 1: isn't an identified, existing like trigger point for you, you're
Speaker 1: not paranoid for thinking that's what's going on exactly. And
Speaker 1: I feel like, again, that's see that exact example is like, Yo,
Speaker 1: that's bullseye of who I'm trying to talk to in
Speaker 1: this show and why I made the show because it's like, dog,
Speaker 1: you know this experience. You knew a kid like that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That was like, Hey, hommy,
Speaker 1: he talking ship. You're gonna let that NIGN talk to
Speaker 1: you like that? You know what I'm saying, Like, Hey,
Speaker 1: we're gonna ride tonight, man, you're pulling up or not?
Speaker 1: You know, ride or die? Bro. Hey, you don't let
Speaker 1: him talk about the hood like that. It's like, hey, hommy,
Speaker 1: you know what, that's your problem. That beef you got
Speaker 1: with that boy, that's between y'all and him. Y'all outside
Speaker 1: he said he outside waiting for you. I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: right here. You know what I'm saying, Because I like you,
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna pull me into that, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, I love my hood, I love my set,
Speaker 1: but listen, it's different. I'm over here, I'll sitting here
Speaker 1: eating tacos. You should have left you should have left
Speaker 1: that man alone, you know what I'm saying, Like, I
Speaker 1: know why. I think I talked about it once before
Speaker 1: on another show. But it's a very like specific, like
Speaker 1: real life experience. Me and I'm just playing outside and
Speaker 1: some boys just happened to be walking by, and did
Speaker 1: nobody tell you? Did nobody tell you to press? These dudes? Hey, hommy,
Speaker 1: where are you from? It's like, bro, they on the
Speaker 1: they was on their way, They was already passed our yard.
Speaker 1: You you did not need it, So now we all
Speaker 1: got to fight. And I'm like, okay, listen, bro. Like
Speaker 1: so that's what I'm saying. So use those same antennas
Speaker 1: you remembered that was gonna get you in trouble. Y'all
Speaker 1: all suspended because he mad. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Used them same antenda is that you remember, Like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to that party. I ain't going to
Speaker 1: that kick back y'all, y'all gonna wear y'all ditch in
Speaker 1: fourth period. Now I'm chill, I'm cool, Like, look them
Speaker 1: same antennas, you know what I'm saying. Use that for
Speaker 1: going to burn that white suburb? Like really exactly. I
Speaker 1: love how you put that in. Again, you don't need
Speaker 1: to be a disinformation researcher to see the to be like, oh,
Speaker 1: I I recognize this right that that that same antenna,
Speaker 1: that same gut feeling where you're like, this doesn't seem right,
Speaker 1: that isn't feeling. I think that we should all, we
Speaker 1: would all be served by leaning into especially when we're
Speaker 1: having these tense conversations online. Yes, so good, Okay, so
Speaker 1: Russian cap, bad actor his cap? What about a media caps?
Speaker 1: So how do you feel about Tucker Carlson? Tucker Carlson
Speaker 1: might be my number one cap cap of the year.
Speaker 1: Maybe he so exactly, he's just so good at it,
Speaker 1: Like he's really good at it, yo, Because what what's
Speaker 1: so brilliant And I hate to use that term, but
Speaker 1: what's so brilliant about the Tucker Carlson cap is there's
Speaker 1: two things. It's a new show knowing damn well, this
Speaker 1: ain't no new show, knowing knowing this is an opinion show.
Speaker 1: And if you ask him, if he's pressed in court,
Speaker 1: he's like, this is the entertainment exactly. The news happened
Speaker 1: at like noon, like this entertainment show. So that's like, okay,
Speaker 1: so you've already set up the game. If somebody press
Speaker 1: you on it, that's like we're talking about this entertainment
Speaker 1: Like no, it's people don't take me serious, knowing full
Speaker 1: well everybody takes you serious. And then too, he knows
Speaker 1: how to say something by not saying something like right now.
Speaker 1: I'm really impressed with his like I'm not gonna be
Speaker 1: pro Putin because that's crazy because I'm but I'll be
Speaker 1: anti anti Putin. It isn't that. It's so savvy the
Speaker 1: way that you couldn't point to like unfortunately, I have
Speaker 1: watched quite a bit of Tucker Carlson the last few months.
Speaker 1: I couldn't point to him being specifically pro Putin's very good.
Speaker 1: You couldn't. You couldn't get him on that. But he
Speaker 1: the way that he is able to be anti anti Putin,
Speaker 1: it's just it's it's really it's brilliant and I hate
Speaker 1: to give him a compliment, but he really he's he's
Speaker 1: not new to this. He's true that man, like I
Speaker 1: got him up there. I got him up there as
Speaker 1: like he's fighting for one and two for me because
Speaker 1: because it's brilliant, you know what I'm saying. He has
Speaker 1: a way of sanitizinglearly Nazi thought like this is like
Speaker 1: if you just just it's one of those things to
Speaker 1: where it's like you just just just push a little,
Speaker 1: just just pull the curtain down a little and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'll see what you did there, you know, And it's
Speaker 1: and it's quite a skill. I think there's a lot
Speaker 1: of people, you know out here in the world of
Speaker 1: normis that probably have that same skill. They just don't
Speaker 1: have the access somebody like a tech tuck a cross
Speaker 1: and have or the death inside of their soul to
Speaker 1: be willing to do what they're doing, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But that art, like that art of like
Speaker 1: saying it by not saying it. And it's the same
Speaker 1: way that when he makes content about race, that is
Speaker 1: when you really see him really say it without saying it,
Speaker 1: Like he basically is able to insinuate some pretty ugly
Speaker 1: dark things about communities of color. But again, it's done
Speaker 1: in this way where if you had to point out
Speaker 1: he makes it very difficult to point out specific quotes
Speaker 1: that he has said. Anybody, and anybody can see what's
Speaker 1: going on. Anybody can be between the lines and say, oh,
Speaker 1: I understand what he's trying to say. Yeah, yeah, when
Speaker 1: you go, yeah, so when you go. So, what you're
Speaker 1: saying is which us who are listening and have heard
Speaker 1: this line before. What you're saying is, by virtue of
Speaker 1: our very nature as black and brown folk, we are
Speaker 1: not able to be as civilized as the people that
Speaker 1: you serve. That's what you're saying exactly. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He's like, where did you hear me say that?
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? You know? And I'm like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right. You didn't say that, got you. That's cat.
Speaker 1: But you know you're saying it though, exactly. And you
Speaker 1: know who else knows, his viewers, his viewers exactly. What Yes,
Speaker 1: cat cat cat cat cat cat cap ca ca ca
Speaker 1: cat cat cat can cap. I think we witnessed a
Speaker 1: smorgasborg of cap in the last Supreme Court nomination hearing.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it was hard to do to do
Speaker 1: watch the hearing. It was hard for me to watch.
Speaker 1: I couldn't, I couldn't keep it on. I marveled at
Speaker 1: there's a few things on marvel I was. I felt
Speaker 1: a little anthropological because I'm like, as someone who has
Speaker 1: lived my entire life under the watchful eye of black women,
Speaker 1: whether it's my sister, all my teeth, all my teachers,
Speaker 1: you know, my all, my whatever the case may be,
Speaker 1: her ability to not show her cards. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Remain calm, not raise my voice, know what
Speaker 1: the hell I'm talking about, Twitch to switch her pitch,
Speaker 1: switch your tone, answer a question, diffuse your question, know
Speaker 1: how to not answer you knowing what you're saying is ridiculous,
Speaker 1: and then but not saying this is ridiculous, but I'm
Speaker 1: gonna answer, you know, answer a fool in his folly,
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna answer your folly. Right was to me,
Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is y'all. Don't understand. This is
Speaker 1: what they do. Like she's exceptional, but not for that.
Speaker 1: That's not what makes her exceptional. That's what they all do. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I cannot agree more. I almost feel like so so
Speaker 1: yes to everything that you just said, And for me
Speaker 1: watching that, I have to say I had almost kind
Speaker 1: of I didn't expect to be almost sort of so
Speaker 1: emotionally almost triggered by it, because, as you said, every
Speaker 1: black woman in America recognizes the masterful dance that she
Speaker 1: has to do to get to basically be publicly disrespected
Speaker 1: for hours on national television and act like one it's acceptable,
Speaker 1: which it shouldn't be. You respond with like grace and
Speaker 1: a plum and not and make it seem like, oh well,
Speaker 1: thank you for that question. It definitely is not disrespectful. Definitely,
Speaker 1: doesn't you know, set me up to feel disrespected, does
Speaker 1: not disrespect my years of experience it. So I definitely
Speaker 1: recognized that in the hearings, but it was just hard
Speaker 1: for me. I was like, this is I didn't like.
Speaker 1: I didn't like watching her have to do that, and
Speaker 1: I can recognize that she did a great job. Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you have do you have a recollection of what
Speaker 1: you think which one of the questions or senators or
Speaker 1: things was like the most cap delicious. Oh yes, definitely.
Speaker 1: I think it was Ted Cruise's line of questioning around
Speaker 1: um this that this complete nonsense idea of her being
Speaker 1: quote soft on like sexual prickers. So that has complete
Speaker 1: roots in debunked nonsense Q and on theories, and also
Speaker 1: the way that he framed that question of trying to
Speaker 1: get her to explain why she sentenced this person who
Speaker 1: was I guess con um for you know, a certain
Speaker 1: amount of years in prison. And she was like, well,
Speaker 1: I it's not my job to you know, I don't
Speaker 1: come up with sentence and guidelines. That's my job as
Speaker 1: a judge to you know, work within those guidelines which
Speaker 1: I don't make. And when I think it was, Dick
Speaker 1: Durbin was like, I think that she's answered the question.
Speaker 1: Time to move on. Ted Cruz was like, well, I
Speaker 1: guess you know, why don't you want the American people
Speaker 1: to know the truth of what happened with this child
Speaker 1: this this child pornography case. And so again going back
Speaker 1: to sort of saying something without saying something, it's so
Speaker 1: clear clear as day to me that Ted Cruz was
Speaker 1: trying to evoke this debunked Q and on theory that
Speaker 1: absolutely elected officials are involved with you know, child being
Speaker 1: child predators at all and things of that nature. And
Speaker 1: you know the reality is, you know, in my day
Speaker 1: day job, I work for a survivor justice organization. Survivor
Speaker 1: justice organizations and survivor justice advocates are so queer that
Speaker 1: Judge Jackson, we see her as an advocate for us.
Speaker 1: We support her, And this idea that he can use,
Speaker 1: you know, like per like per being soft on child
Speaker 1: predators or soft on sexual violence against her is so
Speaker 1: disingenuous and disgusting, Like it's so clear what he's doing
Speaker 1: and the reason why it's effective. The reason why these
Speaker 1: Q and on theories haven't gone away is that so
Speaker 1: many people are survivors of sexual violence and somebody knows
Speaker 1: it's something that that is going to, you know, really
Speaker 1: have a stick in quality because so many people have
Speaker 1: experienced it, and it's just ridiculous not to mention danger.
Speaker 1: It's dangerous to publicly associate somebody with something as horrible
Speaker 1: as being a child predator. And and I thought that
Speaker 1: was definitely the most unacceptable extreme cap of the entire hearing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Ted cruz Uh, I don't know anyone that's so ferociously
Speaker 1: bad at what he's trying to do, Like it's it's
Speaker 1: it's a marvel to me because it was like like
Speaker 1: you said that that that that cap was so clear
Speaker 1: and paper then it just wasn't clever. You're like, you're
Speaker 1: not even good at this. You know, um his his
Speaker 1: clear like cloud Chasing with the like holding up the
Speaker 1: book and like trying to trying to land a thirty
Speaker 1: second segment on you know, the news tonight. I'm like, bro,
Speaker 1: do you have any concept of how the media works?
Speaker 1: You put the book on the screen. You understand that
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna go buy the book. Now, You're so bad
Speaker 1: at this, bro, Like you you don't put it on it.
Speaker 1: You ain't supposed to put it on the camera, bro,
Speaker 1: Like that's you just put this man's book cover in
Speaker 1: front of the world. You don't think people ain't gonna
Speaker 1: google that? Like, you're so bad at this, dog Like
Speaker 1: that's not that's not how cloud Chasing works. And that
Speaker 1: book shot up to number one, but the number one overnight,
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. You are so bad at this,
Speaker 1: Like yeah, so I would. Yeah. I thought the way
Speaker 1: that she answered that because I wasn't really clear on
Speaker 1: like the queu and on stuff that debunk stuff. So
Speaker 1: I was like, let me hear what let me hear
Speaker 1: what she got to say, And the way that she
Speaker 1: answered it um for y'all to don't know. She's basically like, listen, dude.
Speaker 1: You know, pre Internet, if you were just to um
Speaker 1: pass out child pornography, you had to pound the ground
Speaker 1: you was putting them in the mail, right, So it
Speaker 1: took a lot of effort for you to get a
Speaker 1: hundred pieces of child pouring out. Yo. That's footwork. Like,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of work. Right now, from the Internet,
Speaker 1: you can click one button and put a million pieces out.
Speaker 1: So you're like, okay, that is that volume or effort,
Speaker 1: And you gotta ask me who put in more effort,
Speaker 1: who put in more volume? And my job was to say, okay,
Speaker 1: in this situation situation in night, this man went out
Speaker 1: of his way, joke say, to buy stamps, to go
Speaker 1: to the post office to xerox all this stuff. So
Speaker 1: I had to calculate that into my judgment. I'm like,
Speaker 1: that makes perfect sense, and I don't understand why you
Speaker 1: would What what does that got to do with being
Speaker 1: soft on crying? Like you tying this together in a
Speaker 1: way that clearly don't make sense. And so for me,
Speaker 1: I'm like, even if you was gonna pick something to
Speaker 1: cap on, that one's easily torn down. That's why I'm like,
Speaker 1: you're not good at this. Yeah, I mean I think
Speaker 1: that you know, the way that you put it, It's
Speaker 1: like I think people like TEP crews were using that
Speaker 1: confirmation hearing process to grandstand. I think that they you know,
Speaker 1: it's just stunts. Again, if you, if you, you know,
Speaker 1: you don't have to be a political scientist or a
Speaker 1: scholar to recognize a stunt. When you see one and
Speaker 1: abody who pull stunts, you know it's the same. It's
Speaker 1: the same thing. You're looking for your moment. You're looking
Speaker 1: forward to get that booking on Fox News or talking
Speaker 1: Carlson to explain your little stunt. And that's what it is.
Speaker 1: You know, this is in this like equal opportunity. I'll
Speaker 1: still never get over, you know. Nancy Pelosi and her
Speaker 1: and her kinte cloths. Neil I was like, this is
Speaker 1: the most you again, You're bad, You're not good at this.
Speaker 1: That was the most absurd. I was like, ma'am, ma'am,
Speaker 1: get you're gonna hurt yourself. Get off that, Get off
Speaker 1: your knee, ma'am. Just don't don't bend down like that, man,
Speaker 1: Just don't. Who on her team told her that was
Speaker 1: a good idea, like, ma'am, this only reads as cap.
Speaker 1: You're not helping, you're helping. Ain't helping, you're helping. I help, ma'am.
Speaker 1: Can you please just get off? Don't Yeah. When she
Speaker 1: tried to take to me, I was like, oh, oh,
Speaker 1: m pellos, don't do that. You ain't gonna be able
Speaker 1: to get up. You're not doing what you think you're doing.
Speaker 1: Just cap. So our three candidates, four candidates Russian media,
Speaker 1: social media, bad actors, Tugger Carlson, or the Supreme Court
Speaker 1: hearings rank. We'll talk across with the number one, number one,
Speaker 1: number one King of cap cap and that's really saying something. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say number two Russian state media. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say number three the hearings and just the general
Speaker 1: horrible nous on display. And then number four sort of
Speaker 1: general social media backers I have. I have no notes
Speaker 1: on that list. That's perfect, all right. So to close
Speaker 1: out the show, I'm gonna give you, um three things
Speaker 1: and two out of three. If you get two out
Speaker 1: of three correct, you win. Question is factor cap? So
Speaker 1: these are news headlines. Tell me if they're factor cap. Oh,
Speaker 1: if I'm bad at this, I'm gonna I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: shaming myself as a well, I'm not giving you a
Speaker 1: lot of information though. Okay, so the first one is
Speaker 1: the first one is uh, no one has any idea
Speaker 1: when April Fool started as an event or a holiday.
Speaker 1: But we kind of think the customs go back to
Speaker 1: Renaissance Europe, but most likely started much earlier than then.
Speaker 1: That sounds like fact, correct, it is fact? Good job. Okay.
Speaker 1: Number two. For Valentine's Day, the Bronx Zoo had a
Speaker 1: litter of mere cats, and for a small price, you
Speaker 1: can get one of them mere cats to be named
Speaker 1: after yo boo thing. Oh I think I heard this story.
Speaker 1: I don't remember being mere cats. I'm gonna say true
Speaker 1: because I want a mere cat named after myself. I
Speaker 1: would love a mere cat named after me. But as
Speaker 1: cap it was actually roaches, That's what it was. That's
Speaker 1: what I want. Oh. I have a couple of people
Speaker 1: who I feel like would really be a good roach name.
Speaker 1: We should get one a name at Tucker Carlson. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's I'll do that after this. Let's right now, let's
Speaker 1: name this. Oh my god. Okay, oh man, that's so perfect. Alright,
Speaker 1: factor cap Mickey Mouse is coming out. Oh that's gotta
Speaker 1: be cap. Wait wait is it fact? It's a trick question.
Speaker 1: The Republicans, the Republican UH media is convinced that because
Speaker 1: of the direction that Disneyland is going that they're like, well,
Speaker 1: next thing we're not Mickey Mouse is gonna be gay.
Speaker 1: So they've called him gay. I see, Oh that's a
Speaker 1: good one. That that was a really, really good one.
Speaker 1: They're always upset about something. Do you remember when they
Speaker 1: made The Green the Green eminem less horny? Yes, she
Speaker 1: was too sexy. Yeah, I'm just like yeah, Like with
Speaker 1: that one, I was like, man, y'all bored, Like y'all
Speaker 1: just bored. I feel like there's plenty of things. Almost
Speaker 1: sometimes I want to sometimes I feel like, man, let me,
Speaker 1: let me write y'all's points. It's almost like if I
Speaker 1: was being if I was gonna be like if we
Speaker 1: was in a battle, like it was battle rapping, I
Speaker 1: would be like for this to be more fun for me.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you things to say to me because
Speaker 1: the stuff you're coming up with is trash. Like, there
Speaker 1: are so many things you could say, There's so many
Speaker 1: things you can deal with you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you can talk to us about the fact that we
Speaker 1: really don't know how we feel about the police, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like because we don't you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like you had it like you said
Speaker 1: uprise and we had defund the police everywhere and then
Speaker 1: and then Corey Booker got on that thing and was like,
Speaker 1: We're never gonna defund the police. And you're like, wait,
Speaker 1: wait what like you know or or kept like drag
Speaker 1: us on the fact that when we say defund the police,
Speaker 1: we don't mean defundum. We mean defundum, And you're like,
Speaker 1: what the hell does that? Drag us on nap, You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Make us answer that question, make
Speaker 1: me explain what I mean by that. But that's not
Speaker 1: what you're doing. You're mad. You're mad because Mickey might
Speaker 1: be by it's wild and I think you know this
Speaker 1: really it really comes back. This is like one of
Speaker 1: the biggest, my biggest problems with this information is that
Speaker 1: we spend so much time, so much oxygen gets taken
Speaker 1: out of the room for having the actual conversations that
Speaker 1: we should be having conversations about things like policing and
Speaker 1: things like real things. We don't spend time talking about
Speaker 1: the real things because we're too busy talking about the
Speaker 1: outrage around Mickey being by or something like that. Like
Speaker 1: we've spent so much time on the ridiculous, but we
Speaker 1: then don't get to the substitutive or the thoughtful, or
Speaker 1: the things that are actually going to like get us
Speaker 1: some progress and help us move forward. We just don't.
Speaker 1: We don't have time to talk about it. We're too
Speaker 1: busy talking about Mickey's So yes, oh man, well I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give you that. I'm gonna say you won the
Speaker 1: Factor cap game because I gave you a trick question.
Speaker 1: And uh, I appreciate you participating. And I also appreciate
Speaker 1: you participating with this show and making time for us.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here with us. This
Speaker 1: was so much fun. I I'm so glad we were
Speaker 1: able to make it happen. Uh. Yeah, you I love
Speaker 1: I love the framework that you bring to this work.
Speaker 1: It's really really great. Thank you, and I love your work. Again, everybody,
Speaker 1: there are no girls on the internet, please listen to
Speaker 1: this show. Like I, I have learned so much from
Speaker 1: your show, from your presence even just now in this
Speaker 1: you just you've taught me on this show. Uh yo,
Speaker 1: this was so dope. Well and now where can they
Speaker 1: follow you on the on the socials? You can find
Speaker 1: me on Twitter at Bridget Marie or on Instagram at
Speaker 1: Bridget Marie in d C. Bridget Marie in DC. Are
Speaker 1: you from d C? I am Gordon raised my mama
Speaker 1: from d C. Oh where about? So actually, here's a
Speaker 1: funny story. She just wrote me like, uh, I mean
Speaker 1: almost like a hundred page I just said off the top.
Speaker 1: One day. I was like, you know, you never really
Speaker 1: know your parents and she was like, you know, I
Speaker 1: never thought of that. And then she was like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna write you a letter, so she listen. Started off
Speaker 1: in southwest and then went to southeast to the east
Speaker 1: up East Capital Projects, which are not there now. It's
Speaker 1: uh the East Capital Urban Arm So it's a it's
Speaker 1: an urban farm. They knocked it down. It's an urban
Speaker 1: farm right there. But it was called the East Capitol
Speaker 1: Projects right in southeast and uh, I'm trying to think
Speaker 1: of the name of the street that goes all the
Speaker 1: way out to like Upper Marlborough. It's like one street,
Speaker 1: it's a two oh two, I don't know, but either way,
Speaker 1: East Capital Projects that's where she was originally from. Then
Speaker 1: they moved to by the time I was around, my
Speaker 1: grandmother lived in Northwest on three eleven Taylor Street. So
Speaker 1: and then but my family is a scattered plot my
Speaker 1: mom's side. I'm going and raised in by my mom's side,
Speaker 1: like Capital Heights. Uh, you know, I just left. Everybody
Speaker 1: buried in Fort Lincoln on Blakesburg Road. That's where all
Speaker 1: my family at. Um. I just left because we just
Speaker 1: had a funeral. But yeah, Fort Lincoln Cemetery right on
Speaker 1: Bladeburgh Road. So I am just a few blocks away
Speaker 1: from Taylor as we've as we serious, Yeah, that's our
Speaker 1: ground man, Taylor Street Dogs. Yeah, that was that was
Speaker 1: my mama's hood. You know what I'm saying it shout
Speaker 1: out this problems. You know what I'm saying. You know
Speaker 1: I'm saying, d C Bama, you feel me. I remember
Speaker 1: my cousins used to come out, like my my first
Speaker 1: introduction to like go go, like when the they were coming,
Speaker 1: they would bring tapes to me and I didn't get
Speaker 1: it because I was like, these are already songs. You
Speaker 1: just you just saying these are just bad recordings of
Speaker 1: other songs like I was like, I don't get it
Speaker 1: until I was old enough to go. And then once
Speaker 1: I went to a Go Go, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: there is no there is no better turn up. There's
Speaker 1: nothing like go go Like, there's nothing like it in
Speaker 1: the world. If anyone's listening and you're like what is
Speaker 1: go go, come to d C. I will take you
Speaker 1: to a go go turn up. You will have the
Speaker 1: best go like. That's what That's what I learned. You
Speaker 1: have to go. Once I went, I was like I
Speaker 1: get it now, yes, yes, And I'm saying this as
Speaker 1: some that you cut me open. The Pacific Ocean comes
Speaker 1: out like I ain't make California, but I was like
Speaker 1: I understand that anyway. Thank you so much. One more
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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Thank you. Ca cat ca ca
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