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Speaker 1: I'm so excited to be here. Thank you for having me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: south By? You know what I'm saying, making boss moves?

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Speaker 1: How was that? Like? How was south By? It was good.

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Speaker 1: you ever heard a black person referred to like ourselves,

425
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 1: our community as v blacks a black never, I've never

426
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 1: heard that. We've never done that. That that was gonna

427
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 1: be like, I was gonna say, yo yo first that

428
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 1: her saying that, because that's used to what happened to me.

429
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 1: You know, you get these replies and you're looking at

430
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 1: the profile picture and I'm like, Oh, it's a black dude,

431
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 1: but I'm listening to him talk and I'm like, oh,

432
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: you're not black at all, homie, like you know, and

433
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: it's like and it's not even on some like listen,

434
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: there's a diversity of thought, you know, you can have

435
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: different political views. Were not a monolith, so I can

436
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 1: here you know and at least understand a very like

437
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: fiscally conservatives, you know, socially liberal constitutional is black, dude,

438
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: He's still going to talk like a black dude, like

439
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 1: there is an author that That's the thing. There is

440
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: an authenticity to our experience. There is nothing like we

441
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: the black community, of the black, black and brown folks.

442
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: We are vast, we contain so many, you know, we're

443
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 1: very multifaceted, and that's one of the parts, one of

444
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: the beautiful parts of our community. But there's still going

445
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: to be an underlying authenticity and right and so I

446
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: think that is I just love how as black women

447
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 1: identifying these fake accounts that kind of becomes our superpower.

448
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 1: The ability to see and understand black authentic expression. That

449
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: is something that really saved us and gave us the

450
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: ability to protect our own online communities against bad actors. Yes, yes, facts,

451
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: I love it, dude, and I and I've even experienced

452
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 1: on my on and somebody that's like what I started

453
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: naming myself as, like overwoke, where it was almost like

454
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: a bad actor on the other end, like you're trying

455
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: to like round me up on some on some like

456
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: my father is a black panther. So I'm like, I

457
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: already know that they've like whatever data they used to mind,

458
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 1: whatever I am and who I follow and stuff like that.

459
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: You already know, like what terms you're supposed to drop

460
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: on me, you know what I'm saying. And then and

461
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: then the issues for which they're picking up on and

462
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: how angry they are and what And I'm just like,

463
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: because again, like you said, there's an authenticity of the experience,

464
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: because at some point, I'm gonna be like, hey, bro,

465
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: you need to chill, Like you know what I'm saying, Like, hey, fam,

466
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: like listen, listen, happy, thanks taking, I get it, you

467
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like, we don't celebrate the Pilgrims,

468
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: you know, but these the Kyla Green slap we all

469
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: go home anything we understand. We have this dual consciousness, bro, Like,

470
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 1: hey fam, Like, yo, chill. You not at your grandma

471
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: house right now? Now? You're not real, do you not? Even?

472
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,199
Speaker 1: You know what I say exactly, And I love how

473
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: you put that. And isn't that dual consciousness, that dual

474
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: experience that is such an authentic part of how all

475
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: of us show up? I feel um? And then I

476
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: just want to say something else to your point about

477
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: you know, these overwoke people who you feel like are

478
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: trying to roll you up. The answer is probably that

479
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 1: is exactly what's going on. You know. One thing that

480
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 1: we see a lot about the way that disinformers and

481
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: bad actors operate online is that they use things that

482
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: are legitimate tensions that exist in our community, or legitimate fractures,

483
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: fractures particularly things that are like sensitive or difficult to

484
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: talk about that we don't talk about. So a good

485
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: example would be tensions between black folks and Latino folks, right,

486
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 1: And so we've seen bad actors time and time again

487
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 1: exploit that specific tension that does actually exist. And so,

488
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: you know, and just another point to your point, um,

489
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: during the summer, when we saw all of those you know,

490
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: uprisings and protests around the globe pro racial justice, Twitter

491
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: actually confirmed and I think Facebook did too. They don't

492
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: quote me on that, I know that Twitter did. They

493
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: confirmed that some of the people who you might have

494
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 1: thought were black folks on social media who were you know,

495
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 1: inviting people to to you know, participate in violent activities

496
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: like oh, we're gonna go we're upset about racial justice.

497
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 1: We're going to go to a white suburban burn it down.

498
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: Those were run by white supremacists, right, Like these platforms

499
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 1: have confirmed that. And so if you if you ever

500
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: feel like somebody online is posing as a black person

501
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: and really trying to rile you up along something that

502
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: isn't an identified, existing like trigger point for you, you're

503
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: not paranoid for thinking that's what's going on exactly. And

504
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: I feel like, again, that's see that exact example is like, Yo,

505
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: that's bullseye of who I'm trying to talk to in

506
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: this show and why I made the show because it's like, dog,

507
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: you know this experience. You knew a kid like that,

508
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That was like, Hey, hommy,

509
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: he talking ship. You're gonna let that NIGN talk to

510
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: you like that? You know what I'm saying, Like, Hey,

511
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna ride tonight, man, you're pulling up or not?

512
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: You know, ride or die? Bro. Hey, you don't let

513
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: him talk about the hood like that. It's like, hey, hommy,

514
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: you know what, that's your problem. That beef you got

515
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: with that boy, that's between y'all and him. Y'all outside

516
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: he said he outside waiting for you. I'm gonna be

517
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: right here. You know what I'm saying, Because I like you,

518
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna pull me into that, you know what

519
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, I love my hood, I love my set,

520
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: but listen, it's different. I'm over here, I'll sitting here

521
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: eating tacos. You should have left you should have left

522
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: that man alone, you know what I'm saying, Like, I

523
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: know why. I think I talked about it once before

524
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: on another show. But it's a very like specific, like

525
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: real life experience. Me and I'm just playing outside and

526
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: some boys just happened to be walking by, and did

527
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: nobody tell you? Did nobody tell you to press? These dudes? Hey, hommy,

528
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: where are you from? It's like, bro, they on the

529
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: they was on their way, They was already passed our yard.

530
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: You you did not need it, So now we all

531
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: got to fight. And I'm like, okay, listen, bro. Like

532
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: so that's what I'm saying. So use those same antennas

533
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: you remembered that was gonna get you in trouble. Y'all

534
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: all suspended because he mad. You know what I'm saying.

535
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: Used them same antenda is that you remember, Like, no,

536
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: I'm not going to that party. I ain't going to

537
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: that kick back y'all, y'all gonna wear y'all ditch in

538
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: fourth period. Now I'm chill, I'm cool, Like, look them

539
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: same antennas, you know what I'm saying. Use that for

540
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: going to burn that white suburb? Like really exactly. I

541
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: love how you put that in. Again, you don't need

542
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: to be a disinformation researcher to see the to be like, oh,

543
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: I I recognize this right that that that same antenna,

544
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: that same gut feeling where you're like, this doesn't seem right,

545
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: that isn't feeling. I think that we should all, we

546
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: would all be served by leaning into especially when we're

547
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: having these tense conversations online. Yes, so good, Okay, so

548
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: Russian cap, bad actor his cap? What about a media caps?

549
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: So how do you feel about Tucker Carlson? Tucker Carlson

550
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: might be my number one cap cap of the year.

551
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: Maybe he so exactly, he's just so good at it,

552
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: Like he's really good at it, yo, Because what what's

553
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: so brilliant And I hate to use that term, but

554
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: what's so brilliant about the Tucker Carlson cap is there's

555
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: two things. It's a new show knowing damn well, this

556
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: ain't no new show, knowing knowing this is an opinion show.

557
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: And if you ask him, if he's pressed in court,

558
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: he's like, this is the entertainment exactly. The news happened

559
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: at like noon, like this entertainment show. So that's like, okay,

560
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: so you've already set up the game. If somebody press

561
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: you on it, that's like we're talking about this entertainment

562
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: Like no, it's people don't take me serious, knowing full

563
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: well everybody takes you serious. And then too, he knows

564
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: how to say something by not saying something like right now.

565
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: I'm really impressed with his like I'm not gonna be

566
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: pro Putin because that's crazy because I'm but I'll be

567
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: anti anti Putin. It isn't that. It's so savvy the

568
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: way that you couldn't point to like unfortunately, I have

569
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: watched quite a bit of Tucker Carlson the last few months.

570
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: I couldn't point to him being specifically pro Putin's very good.

571
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: You couldn't. You couldn't get him on that. But he

572
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,479
Speaker 1: the way that he is able to be anti anti Putin,

573
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: it's just it's it's really it's brilliant and I hate

574
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: to give him a compliment, but he really he's he's

575
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: not new to this. He's true that man, like I

576
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: got him up there. I got him up there as

577
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: like he's fighting for one and two for me because

578
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: because it's brilliant, you know what I'm saying. He has

579
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: a way of sanitizinglearly Nazi thought like this is like

580
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: if you just just it's one of those things to

581
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: where it's like you just just just push a little,

582
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: just just pull the curtain down a little and you're like, oh,

583
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: I'll see what you did there, you know, And it's

584
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: and it's quite a skill. I think there's a lot

585
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: of people, you know out here in the world of

586
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: normis that probably have that same skill. They just don't

587
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: have the access somebody like a tech tuck a cross

588
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: and have or the death inside of their soul to

589
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: be willing to do what they're doing, you know what

590
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But that art, like that art of like

591
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: saying it by not saying it. And it's the same

592
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: way that when he makes content about race, that is

593
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: when you really see him really say it without saying it,

594
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: Like he basically is able to insinuate some pretty ugly

595
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: dark things about communities of color. But again, it's done

596
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: in this way where if you had to point out

597
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: he makes it very difficult to point out specific quotes

598
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: that he has said. Anybody, and anybody can see what's

599
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: going on. Anybody can be between the lines and say, oh,

600
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: I understand what he's trying to say. Yeah, yeah, when

601
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: you go, yeah, so when you go. So, what you're

602
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: saying is which us who are listening and have heard

603
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: this line before. What you're saying is, by virtue of

604
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: our very nature as black and brown folk, we are

605
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: not able to be as civilized as the people that

606
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: you serve. That's what you're saying exactly. You know what

607
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He's like, where did you hear me say that?

608
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? You know? And I'm like, okay, yeah,

609
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: you're right. You didn't say that, got you. That's cat.

610
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: But you know you're saying it though, exactly. And you

611
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: know who else knows, his viewers, his viewers exactly. What Yes,

612
00:34:53,080 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: cat cat cat cat cat cat cap ca ca ca

613
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: cat cat cat can cap. I think we witnessed a

614
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: smorgasborg of cap in the last Supreme Court nomination hearing.

615
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it was hard to do to do

616
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,479
Speaker 1: watch the hearing. It was hard for me to watch.

617
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 1: I couldn't, I couldn't keep it on. I marveled at

618
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 1: there's a few things on marvel I was. I felt

619
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: a little anthropological because I'm like, as someone who has

620
00:35:56,040 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: lived my entire life under the watchful eye of black women,

621
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: whether it's my sister, all my teeth, all my teachers,

622
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: you know, my all, my whatever the case may be,

623
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: her ability to not show her cards. You know what

624
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Remain calm, not raise my voice, know what

625
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,959
Speaker 1: the hell I'm talking about, Twitch to switch her pitch,

626
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 1: switch your tone, answer a question, diffuse your question, know

627
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 1: how to not answer you knowing what you're saying is ridiculous,

628
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: and then but not saying this is ridiculous, but I'm

629
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: gonna answer, you know, answer a fool in his folly,

630
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna answer your folly. Right was to me,

631
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is y'all. Don't understand. This is

632
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: what they do. Like she's exceptional, but not for that.

633
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: That's not what makes her exceptional. That's what they all do. Absolutely,

634
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: I cannot agree more. I almost feel like so so

635
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: yes to everything that you just said, And for me

636
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: watching that, I have to say I had almost kind

637
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: of I didn't expect to be almost sort of so

638
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 1: emotionally almost triggered by it, because, as you said, every

639
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: black woman in America recognizes the masterful dance that she

640
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: has to do to get to basically be publicly disrespected

641
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:26,240
Speaker 1: for hours on national television and act like one it's acceptable,

642
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: which it shouldn't be. You respond with like grace and

643
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: a plum and not and make it seem like, oh well,

644
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: thank you for that question. It definitely is not disrespectful. Definitely,

645
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: doesn't you know, set me up to feel disrespected, does

646
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: not disrespect my years of experience it. So I definitely

647
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: recognized that in the hearings, but it was just hard

648
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: for me. I was like, this is I didn't like.

649
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: I didn't like watching her have to do that, and

650
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: I can recognize that she did a great job. Yeah,

651
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: do you have do you have a recollection of what

652
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: you think which one of the questions or senators or

653
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: things was like the most cap delicious. Oh yes, definitely.

654
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: I think it was Ted Cruise's line of questioning around

655
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: um this that this complete nonsense idea of her being

656
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: quote soft on like sexual prickers. So that has complete

657
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: roots in debunked nonsense Q and on theories, and also

658
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: the way that he framed that question of trying to

659
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 1: get her to explain why she sentenced this person who

660
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: was I guess con um for you know, a certain

661
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: amount of years in prison. And she was like, well,

662
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: I it's not my job to you know, I don't

663
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: come up with sentence and guidelines. That's my job as

664
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: a judge to you know, work within those guidelines which

665
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 1: I don't make. And when I think it was, Dick

666
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: Durbin was like, I think that she's answered the question.

667
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: Time to move on. Ted Cruz was like, well, I

668
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,919
Speaker 1: guess you know, why don't you want the American people

669
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: to know the truth of what happened with this child

670
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: this this child pornography case. And so again going back

671
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: to sort of saying something without saying something, it's so

672
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: clear clear as day to me that Ted Cruz was

673
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: trying to evoke this debunked Q and on theory that

674
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: absolutely elected officials are involved with you know, child being

675
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: child predators at all and things of that nature. And

676
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: you know the reality is, you know, in my day

677
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: day job, I work for a survivor justice organization. Survivor

678
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: justice organizations and survivor justice advocates are so queer that

679
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: Judge Jackson, we see her as an advocate for us.

680
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: We support her, And this idea that he can use,

681
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: you know, like per like per being soft on child

682
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: predators or soft on sexual violence against her is so

683
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: disingenuous and disgusting, Like it's so clear what he's doing

684
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: and the reason why it's effective. The reason why these

685
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: Q and on theories haven't gone away is that so

686
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: many people are survivors of sexual violence and somebody knows

687
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 1: it's something that that is going to, you know, really

688
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: have a stick in quality because so many people have

689
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: experienced it, and it's just ridiculous not to mention danger.

690
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 1: It's dangerous to publicly associate somebody with something as horrible

691
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: as being a child predator. And and I thought that

692
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: was definitely the most unacceptable extreme cap of the entire hearing. Yeah,

693
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: Ted cruz Uh, I don't know anyone that's so ferociously

694
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: bad at what he's trying to do, Like it's it's

695
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: it's a marvel to me because it was like like

696
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 1: you said that that that that cap was so clear

697
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 1: and paper then it just wasn't clever. You're like, you're

698
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: not even good at this. You know, um his his

699
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: clear like cloud Chasing with the like holding up the

700
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: book and like trying to trying to land a thirty

701
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: second segment on you know, the news tonight. I'm like, bro,

702
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: do you have any concept of how the media works?

703
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: You put the book on the screen. You understand that

704
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna go buy the book. Now, You're so bad

705
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: at this, bro, Like you you don't put it on it.

706
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: You ain't supposed to put it on the camera, bro,

707
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: Like that's you just put this man's book cover in

708
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: front of the world. You don't think people ain't gonna

709
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 1: google that? Like, you're so bad at this, dog Like

710
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: that's not that's not how cloud Chasing works. And that

711
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 1: book shot up to number one, but the number one overnight,

712
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. You are so bad at this,

713
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: Like yeah, so I would. Yeah. I thought the way

714
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: that she answered that because I wasn't really clear on

715
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: like the queu and on stuff that debunk stuff. So

716
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: I was like, let me hear what let me hear

717
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: what she got to say, And the way that she

718
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 1: answered it um for y'all to don't know. She's basically like, listen, dude.

719
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: You know, pre Internet, if you were just to um

720
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,720
Speaker 1: pass out child pornography, you had to pound the ground

721
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: you was putting them in the mail, right, So it

722
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 1: took a lot of effort for you to get a

723
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: hundred pieces of child pouring out. Yo. That's footwork. Like,

724
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: it's a lot of work. Right now, from the Internet,

725
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: you can click one button and put a million pieces out.

726
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: So you're like, okay, that is that volume or effort,

727
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: And you gotta ask me who put in more effort,

728
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,280
Speaker 1: who put in more volume? And my job was to say, okay,

729
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: in this situation situation in night, this man went out

730
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 1: of his way, joke say, to buy stamps, to go

731
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: to the post office to xerox all this stuff. So

732
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 1: I had to calculate that into my judgment. I'm like,

733
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: that makes perfect sense, and I don't understand why you

734
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 1: would What what does that got to do with being

735
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 1: soft on crying? Like you tying this together in a

736
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: way that clearly don't make sense. And so for me,

737
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, even if you was gonna pick something to

738
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: cap on, that one's easily torn down. That's why I'm like,

739
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: you're not good at this. Yeah, I mean I think

740
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: that you know, the way that you put it, It's

741
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: like I think people like TEP crews were using that

742
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: confirmation hearing process to grandstand. I think that they you know,

743
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 1: it's just stunts. Again, if you, if you, you know,

744
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: you don't have to be a political scientist or a

745
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: scholar to recognize a stunt. When you see one and

746
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: abody who pull stunts, you know it's the same. It's

747
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 1: the same thing. You're looking for your moment. You're looking

748
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: forward to get that booking on Fox News or talking

749
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: Carlson to explain your little stunt. And that's what it is.

750
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: You know, this is in this like equal opportunity. I'll

751
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: still never get over, you know. Nancy Pelosi and her

752
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: and her kinte cloths. Neil I was like, this is

753
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: the most you again, You're bad, You're not good at this.

754
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: That was the most absurd. I was like, ma'am, ma'am,

755
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: get you're gonna hurt yourself. Get off that, Get off

756
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: your knee, ma'am. Just don't don't bend down like that, man,

757
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: Just don't. Who on her team told her that was

758
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: a good idea, like, ma'am, this only reads as cap.

759
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: You're not helping, you're helping. Ain't helping, you're helping. I help, ma'am.

760
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: Can you please just get off? Don't Yeah. When she

761
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 1: tried to take to me, I was like, oh, oh,

762
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: m pellos, don't do that. You ain't gonna be able

763
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: to get up. You're not doing what you think you're doing.

764
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: Just cap. So our three candidates, four candidates Russian media,

765
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: social media, bad actors, Tugger Carlson, or the Supreme Court

766
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: hearings rank. We'll talk across with the number one, number one,

767
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: number one King of cap cap and that's really saying something. Um,

768
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say number two Russian state media. Okay, I'm

769
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: gonna say number three the hearings and just the general

770
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: horrible nous on display. And then number four sort of

771
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: general social media backers I have. I have no notes

772
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 1: on that list. That's perfect, all right. So to close

773
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: out the show, I'm gonna give you, um three things

774
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: and two out of three. If you get two out

775
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 1: of three correct, you win. Question is factor cap? So

776
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 1: these are news headlines. Tell me if they're factor cap. Oh,

777
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: if I'm bad at this, I'm gonna I'm gonna be

778
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: shaming myself as a well, I'm not giving you a

779
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: lot of information though. Okay, so the first one is

780
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: the first one is uh, no one has any idea

781
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: when April Fool started as an event or a holiday.

782
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: But we kind of think the customs go back to

783
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: Renaissance Europe, but most likely started much earlier than then.

784
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: That sounds like fact, correct, it is fact? Good job. Okay.

785
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: Number two. For Valentine's Day, the Bronx Zoo had a

786
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: litter of mere cats, and for a small price, you

787
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: can get one of them mere cats to be named

788
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: after yo boo thing. Oh I think I heard this story.

789
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: I don't remember being mere cats. I'm gonna say true

790
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: because I want a mere cat named after myself. I

791
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: would love a mere cat named after me. But as

792
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: cap it was actually roaches, That's what it was. That's

793
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: what I want. Oh. I have a couple of people

794
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: who I feel like would really be a good roach name.

795
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: We should get one a name at Tucker Carlson. Yes,

796
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: it's I'll do that after this. Let's right now, let's

797
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: name this. Oh my god. Okay, oh man, that's so perfect. Alright,

798
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:30,959
Speaker 1: factor cap Mickey Mouse is coming out. Oh that's gotta

799
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 1: be cap. Wait wait is it fact? It's a trick question.

800
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: The Republicans, the Republican UH media is convinced that because

801
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: of the direction that Disneyland is going that they're like, well,

802
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: next thing we're not Mickey Mouse is gonna be gay.

803
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: So they've called him gay. I see, Oh that's a

804
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: good one. That that was a really, really good one.

805
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: They're always upset about something. Do you remember when they

806
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: made The Green the Green eminem less horny? Yes, she

807
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: was too sexy. Yeah, I'm just like yeah, Like with

808
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: that one, I was like, man, y'all bored, Like y'all

809
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: just bored. I feel like there's plenty of things. Almost

810
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: sometimes I want to sometimes I feel like, man, let me,

811
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: let me write y'all's points. It's almost like if I

812
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 1: was being if I was gonna be like if we

813
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: was in a battle, like it was battle rapping, I

814
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 1: would be like for this to be more fun for me.

815
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you things to say to me because

816
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: the stuff you're coming up with is trash. Like, there

817
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 1: are so many things you could say, There's so many

818
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: things you can deal with you know what I'm saying,

819
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 1: you can talk to us about the fact that we

820
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: really don't know how we feel about the police, you

821
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like because we don't you know

822
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like you had it like you said

823
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: uprise and we had defund the police everywhere and then

824
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: and then Corey Booker got on that thing and was like,

825
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: We're never gonna defund the police. And you're like, wait,

826
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:20,760
Speaker 1: wait what like you know or or kept like drag

827
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 1: us on the fact that when we say defund the police,

828
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: we don't mean defundum. We mean defundum, And you're like,

829
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: what the hell does that? Drag us on nap, You

830
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Make us answer that question, make

831
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 1: me explain what I mean by that. But that's not

832
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: what you're doing. You're mad. You're mad because Mickey might

833
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: be by it's wild and I think you know this

834
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 1: really it really comes back. This is like one of

835
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: the biggest, my biggest problems with this information is that

836
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: we spend so much time, so much oxygen gets taken

837
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: out of the room for having the actual conversations that

838
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: we should be having conversations about things like policing and

839
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: things like real things. We don't spend time talking about

840
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: the real things because we're too busy talking about the

841
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: outrage around Mickey being by or something like that. Like

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Speaker 1: And uh, I appreciate you participating. And I also appreciate

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here with us. This

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Speaker 1: I love the framework that you bring to this work.

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Speaker 1: It's really really great. Thank you, and I love your work. Again, everybody,

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Speaker 1: there are no girls on the internet, please listen to

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Speaker 1: get it now, yes, yes, And I'm saying this as

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Speaker 1: I understand that anyway. Thank you so much. One more

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Thank you. Ca cat ca ca

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Speaker 1: Thing was recorded by Me Propaganda and Easlows, Boil Heights,

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Speaker 1: It was it was a stick. He's going by Matt

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Speaker 1: now again because he got into some legal situations with

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Speaker 1: common sense. You know, Tip t I was tipped Sometimes

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Speaker 1: d J Shawn p. So y'all just remember listen every

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Speaker 1: time you check in. If you understand city living, you

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Speaker 1: understand politics, We'll see you'll next week. Okay,