1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: Good Morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here 3 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: are the stories we're following today. 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 3: Karen, we begin with the ongoing controversy around the probe 5 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 3: into j Powell and the FED. Bloomberg's John Tucker joins 6 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 3: us with the very latest. John, Good morning, and good morning. 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 4: Nathan. 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 5: Bloomberg has learned that Washington, DC, US attorney and former 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 5: Fox host Jeanine Piro subpoena of the Federal Reserve without 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 5: ever seeking permission from her bosses at the Justice Department, 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 5: and she doesn't plan to back down. The blowback from 12 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 5: lawmakers and government officials continues to grow. Federal Reserve Bank 13 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 5: of New York President John Williams among those leaping to 14 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 5: the defense of FED Chair Jerome Powell. 15 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 6: He's proven himself to be a man of impeccable integrity 16 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 6: and a man who has been calmly leading the Federal Reserve. 17 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 5: Former Philadelphia Fed President Patrick Harker, as members of Congress 18 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 5: can't let this happen. 19 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 7: Grim, You've talked to members of Congress on both sides 20 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 7: of the aisle. They understand this. They may have different 21 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 7: rhetoric out in public, but you talked to them one 22 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 7: on one. They understand how critical the Federal Reserve is 23 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 7: and they are going. 24 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 8: To push back. 25 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 5: Senator Tom Tilli is a key GOP member, and the 26 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 5: Banking Committee bound to oppose any Trump nominees to the 27 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 5: FED until this is resolved. Senate Majority Leader John Thune 28 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 5: said the threat of a legal battle with the Fed 29 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 5: could make confirming future nominees quote challenging. Axios reported the 30 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 5: Treasury Secretary Scott Besson warrent President Trump the investigation had 31 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 5: created a mess that could be banned for financial markets, 32 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 5: and judging by market reaction, investors doubt the probe of 33 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 5: the FED is going to lead anywhere In New York. 34 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 5: I'm John Tucker, Bloomberg Radio. 35 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: All right, John, thank you. By the Trump administration is 36 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: facing new legal action over the immigration crackdown. In Minnesota. 37 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 2: The Estate is suing the Department of Homeland Security and 38 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: Secretary Christi nom over the precedented surge of ICE officers 39 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: at Minneapolis and Saint Paul. Here's Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison. 40 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 9: The deployment of thousands of armed mass DHS agents to 41 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 9: Minnesota has done our state serious harm. This is, in essence, 42 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 9: a federal invasion of the Twin Cities and Minnesota, and 43 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 9: it must stop. 44 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison's lawsuit comes nearly a week 45 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: after an ice officer shot and killed thirty seven year 46 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 2: old Renee Good in Minneapolis. Her death during a tense 47 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 2: confrontation in her car has sparked protests across the country. 48 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 3: Tourneing to US foreign policy now Karena by partisan congressional 49 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 3: delegation is headed to Copenhagen later this week to show 50 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 3: unity with Denmark mid tensions over Greenland. Delaware Senator Chris 51 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 3: Coons is leading the trip. It includes at least nine 52 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 3: members of Congress. They plan to meet with Danish and 53 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 3: Greenlandic officials on Friday and Saturday. 54 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: Let's get to the latest from the Middle East, Nathan. 55 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 2: President Trump plans to meet with advisors today to weigh 56 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 2: options on responding to deadly protest in Iran. On social media, 57 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 2: the president announced a twenty five percent tariff on countries 58 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: that do business with the Islamic Republic that could upset 59 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 2: his one year trade truce with China. Alivias is Iran 60 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 2: Project director at International Crisis. 61 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 10: Group we have to see if that thread is really implementable, 62 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 10: because Iran's biggest trade trading partner is China, and of 63 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 10: course the US is a complicated relationship when it gets 64 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 10: through in position of tariffs on China second most important 65 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 10: trading partner is the UEE, again the close ally of 66 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 10: the United States, and it's hard to imagine that these 67 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 10: countries would be willing to really cut off all their 68 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 10: ties with Iran. 69 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 2: Overnight Aliviyas with International Crisis Group notes, China is the 70 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 2: world's biggest buyer of Iranian oil. It's unclear if President 71 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: Trump would stack the new tariffs on top of existing 72 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: duties or announce carve outs for China. 73 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 3: In Japan, Karen Prime Minister Sanai Atakiichi is reportedly planning 74 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 3: to call a snap election. Success at the holes for Takaichi, 75 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 3: who has been in the premiership since October, would provide 76 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 3: a mandate for her to continue hawkish diplomacy and pro 77 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 3: stimulus policies. Stocks rallied and the end week into its 78 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 3: lowest level since July twenty twenty four on the news. 79 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 2: Well in the US here Nathan stocks and bonds rebounded 80 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 2: on Wall Street to eke out gains. After initially dropping 81 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: on news, the Trump administration escalated its attack on the FED. 82 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 2: Steve Chiverone is Deputy Chief Investment Officer of Equities at 83 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 2: Federated Hermes. 84 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 11: It doesn't matter how you get to where we were. 85 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 11: It's not good, right. If you have a FED share 86 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 11: that's engaging in illegal activity, that's not good. If you 87 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 11: have political pressure on a FED share being exerted through 88 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 11: the courts, that's not good to have. The video release 89 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 11: is certainly not helpful for markets. So nobody benefits from this. 90 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 2: And Federated Hermes Steve Chivarone. Right now, futures again are lower. 91 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 2: SMP futures down a tenth of uve percent this. 92 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 3: Morning, and attention will now turn Karen to real economic data. 93 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 3: This morning we get the latest inflation report for December. 94 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 3: Bloomberg's Michael McKee has a CPI preview. 95 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 12: We get a full month's data in the December CPI, 96 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 12: but the numbers will remain somewhat unreliable because there was 97 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 12: no October data. The Bureau of Labor Statistics imputed them. 98 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 12: The imputation was zero no change, which to anyone who 99 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 12: went shopping during the month knows is wrong. That decision 100 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 12: biased the November CPI lower. For December, we should see 101 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 12: some payback an upward bias. That bias may or may 102 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 12: not push the annual inflation rate higher. Analysts are divided, 103 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 12: so confidence in what the numbers are telling us may 104 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 12: be low. Markets however, don't see the Fed moving anyway 105 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 12: this month, and we'll have January and February CPI data 106 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 12: in hand before the next Fed meeting. 107 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 10: Michael L. 108 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 12: Key, Bloomberg Radio. 109 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: All right, Michael, thank you. In addition to the CPI report, 110 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: investors will get earnings from the first of the big banks, 111 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 2: JP morgan Chase reports. Before the opening bell, we get 112 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 2: a preview with Bloomberg's Tom Busby. 113 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 6: JP Morgan Chase's trading and investment thinking businesses will be 114 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 6: in focus, with revenue from trading stocks and bonds expected 115 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 6: to rise thirteen percent from a year ago, helping share 116 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 6: so the bank up thirty five percent in the past 117 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 6: twelve months, easily topping the sixteen percent gain in the 118 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 6: SMP five hundred Financials index. Bloomberg consensus calls for adjusted 119 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 6: revenue of forty six point three five billion dollars for 120 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 6: the fourth quarter on adjusted earnings per share of four 121 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 6: dollars ninety two cents. Tom buzzby Bloomberg Radio. 122 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 3: Okay, Tom, thank you. Look at company news now. City 123 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 3: Group is among three major companies cutting jobs. The bank 124 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 3: is set to slash about one thousand positions this week 125 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 3: as part of CEO Jane Fraser's March to keep a 126 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 3: lid on costs, and Blackrocks cutting hundreds of jobs across 127 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 3: its company as well. Those cuts total about one percent 128 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 3: of blackrocks global headcount and include members of its investment 129 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 3: in sales teams and meta platforms. Plans to cut about 130 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 3: ten percent of its employees in the reality Labs division. 131 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 3: That's part of a broader strategy to shift money away 132 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 3: from some virtual reality products and into other AI wearables. 133 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 2: Nathan President Trump says big tech must bear the costs 134 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: of raining in electricity costs. In a post on truth 135 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 2: Social the President said his administration have been talked with 136 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 2: Microsoft to ensure that consumers quote don't pick up the 137 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 2: tab for enormous data centers. The rapid construction of data 138 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: centers is widely seen as one reason why electricity has 139 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: become more expensive in the US, though it is not 140 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: the only one. 141 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 3: Later Today Karen, President Trumble visit a key battleground state 142 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 3: to promote his tariff and manufacturing policies and flesh out 143 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 3: a more populist economic message. He'll visit a factory that 144 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 3: makes Ford F one to fifty trucks and promote his 145 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 3: policies and an event sponsored by the Economic Club of Detroit. 146 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 3: This is the president's third trip to a bellweather state 147 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 3: since early December. 148 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 2: Time now for a look at some of the other 149 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 2: stories making news in New York and around the world 150 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 2: and from ever. Joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr Michael, Good Morning, 151 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 2: Good Morning Karen. 152 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 4: About fifteen thousand nurses in New York City are on 153 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 4: the streets into the second day of their strike. Nurses 154 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 4: say they'll stay there until their demands are met. 155 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 13: We want a fair contract, so we want to save 156 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 13: our healthcare, save our pension, and provide safe staffing for 157 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 13: our patients. 158 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 4: Nurses are also calling for higher wages and better staffing. 159 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 4: Hospital officials say union leaders are making reckless demands, including 160 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 4: nearly forty percent wage increases. A New York City Council 161 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 4: employee was detained by federal immigration officials when he appeared 162 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 4: for a routine immigration appointment. That's according to City Council 163 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 4: Speaker Julie Menin, who says the employee works as a 164 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 4: data analyst and has the legal authorization to remain in 165 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 4: the country until October. 166 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 13: DHS confirmed that this employee had gone in for a 167 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 13: routine court appointment and was nevertheless detained. They provided no 168 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,719 Speaker 13: other basis for his detainment. 169 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 4: According to the DHS, the employee is a criminal alien 170 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 4: from Venezuela who has an assault arrest and no work authorization. 171 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 4: New York Mayor Zoram Mamdani calls the detention and assault 172 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 4: on democracy and demands the employee's immediate release. New York 173 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 4: Governor Kathy Hockle will reveal how she plans to tackle 174 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 4: making housing more affordable for people. Hokel would use today's 175 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 4: State of the State address to detail how she plans 176 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 4: to cut red tape for developers to boost the state's 177 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 4: housing supply amid a widespread shortage of affordable units. It 178 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 4: would be through her let Them Build program. The proposal 179 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 4: has drawn criticism from green groups, who argue that changes 180 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 4: to the law could open up loopholes that could be 181 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 4: exploited by business interests. Global News twenty four hours a 182 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 4: day and whenever you want it with Bloomberg News Now, 183 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 4: I'm Michael Barr. This is Bloomberg Karen. 184 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 12: Thanks Michael. 185 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 2: All time now for our Bloomberg Sports updating. For that, 186 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 2: we bring in John stash Hour. 187 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 14: Thanks. During the end of the NFL Wild Guard Playoff 188 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 14: round of the Houston Texans had a one point le 189 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 14: in the fourth quarter in Pittsburgh and then scored twenty 190 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 14: three points in a span of ten and a half minutes. 191 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 14: They had two defensive touchdowns. Houston won thirty to six 192 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 14: to advance to play New England on Sunday. Was this 193 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 14: the last game for Aaron Rodgers? Will he retire? There 194 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 14: was talk the Packers might fire coach Matt Lafleur. Instead, 195 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 14: they're talking about a contract extension with him. John Harbaugh's 196 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 14: first coaching interview with Atlanta. That to Bloomberg Sports Update. 197 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 8: Stay with us. 198 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,719 Speaker 2: More from Bloomberg Daybreak coming up after this. 199 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 200 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 201 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business opp This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 202 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 14: Good morning. 203 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 3: I'm Nathan Hager. The Justice Department's moved to launch a 204 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 3: grand jury probe against fedchair Jay Powell is drawing rare 205 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 3: pushback from many Republicans on Capitol Hill. Louisiana Senator John 206 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 3: Kennedy is among them. He says, a perjury allegation against 207 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 3: Congress is a serious allegation. 208 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 8: Is serious as four heart attacks on a stroke. 209 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 12: And if you make an allegation like that, by God, 210 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 12: you better be prepared to put it tobaccul up. 211 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 3: That was Republican Senator John Kennedy of Louisiana on Capitol 212 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 3: Hill this morning. We're joined by Bloomberg New senior editor 213 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 3: Alistair Bull and Alistair. We're just getting word from central 214 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 3: banks around the world issuing a joint statement of solidarity 215 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 3: for Chairman Powell as well. It does seem as though 216 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 3: the pushback against this Justice Department probe is pretty remarkable. 217 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 8: Good morning, morning morning, Thanks for having me on it. 218 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 15: It is remarkable, But I think the most remarkable thing 219 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 15: is the strident tone taken by key Republican senators. 220 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 8: Who are in a position to do something about it. 221 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 15: Investors may well heat comments by other central bankers and 222 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 15: bis it could affect their long term view on US assets. 223 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 8: That's obviously important. 224 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 15: The bombmarket vigilantes do have a role to play here. 225 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 15: Senate Republicans can stop Trump from putting his NOMA nominees 226 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 15: on the FED board, and that really sort of like 227 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 15: blocks the Trump campaign to get more control over the 228 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 15: Central Bank. 229 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 8: So that's very serious pushback. 230 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 3: What are we hearing in terms of how these subpoenas 231 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 3: came about. It sounds like there might have been some 232 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 3: kind of disconnect between the Attorney General or the US 233 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 3: Attorney in DC and the Justice Department rid large. 234 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 15: Well, you know, that's very interesting because the reporting yesterday 235 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 15: made it clear that there were a lot of people 236 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 15: around the White House who didn't know this coming and 237 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 15: were not happy to happen, including Treasury Secretary Scott Besson, who, 238 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 15: according to Axios, was very quickly on the phone to 239 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 15: Trump on Sunday night to tell him this was going 240 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 15: to be a mess and it was going to put 241 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 15: a stick in the spokes of his effort to nominate 242 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 15: a new FED share. We don't entirely know what happens next. Really, 243 00:12:58,200 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 15: the ball really is. 244 00:12:59,080 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 8: In the court of. 245 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 15: Because till The Republican Senator Tom Tillis said this needs 246 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 15: to be cleared up soon. And that clip you played 247 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 15: from Senator to Kennedy said, if you're going to make 248 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 15: these allegations, you better back them up. 249 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:13,719 Speaker 8: So I think people are going to want to. 250 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 15: See movement, but they've really not very said very much 251 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 15: to clarify what happens. 252 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 3: Now, what kind of role could Congress play to get 253 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 3: that kind of transparency from the Justice Department. Could we 254 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 3: see a clash there? 255 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, I expect so. I mean I think till this 256 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 8: also sits on the Justice Committee, so I mean he 257 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 8: has power here. 258 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 15: The important thing is that the Senate has oversight, Congress 259 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 15: has oversight of the Federal Reserve, which was very carefully 260 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 15: constructed to insulate it away from political pressure. Now the 261 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 15: Trump president Trump is testing those layers of defense, but 262 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 15: he hasn't breached them yet. And there's another important thing 263 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 15: that's going to happen this month, which is a Supreme 264 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 15: Court going to start here the argument around Governor Lisa Cook, 265 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 15: who Trump fired for cause, and she's fighting that the 266 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 15: Supreme Court indicated that it wants to give some sort 267 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 15: of carve out to the FED as a special quasi 268 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 15: private public agency. If a Supreme Court comes down on 269 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 15: Lisa Cook's side. That's going to give the FED even 270 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 15: more protection and insulate Powell further from sort of an 271 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 15: assault that he has identified as. 272 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 8: A threat to FED independence. 273 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 15: And importantly, Republican senators say they agree with him, they 274 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 15: say it is a threat to FED independence. 275 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 3: And of course this is coming as we're still waiting 276 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 3: for an announcement from President Trump on who his successor 277 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 3: choice for chairman Powell will be. With Senator Tilla saying 278 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 3: he'd block any further FED nominees, that has to complicate 279 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 3: even that announcement, doesn't it. 280 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 15: Yeah, absolutely, I mean that's the big story, the big 281 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 15: news we are expecting on the FED this week or 282 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 15: maybe after Trump goes to Davos for the World Economic Forum. 283 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 15: Was his pick for FED share but that's been completely 284 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 15: overshadowed by this. And if Tilli sticks to his word, 285 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 15: if he if he votes, if he votes to block 286 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 15: any norminee, he basically has a vita on Senate Banking 287 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 15: it's split it thirteen eleven. If he crosses the floor 288 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 15: to join the Democrats, that's twelve twelve that blocks it 289 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 15: there to move out of the committee over an objection 290 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 15: sixty senators under the current rules. You've already got lis Mkowski, 291 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 15: You've got Kramer, You've got Kennedy sounding dubious. You've got 292 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 15: John fun Who's you know, majority leader, saying this needs 293 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 15: to be fixed soon, so they you know, Trump may 294 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,479 Speaker 15: not have the votes in the Senate. So it basically 295 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 15: freezes the whole plan, which is why when you read 296 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 15: the Besson Treasury sectary, Psson was. 297 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 8: Very angry and frustrated by this. 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