1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,519 Speaker 1: The Action Network podcast named vest Vetting Podcast. 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 2: Or radio show by the Fantasy Sports and Gaming Association 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 2: and the number one show for the invested sports fan. 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 3: A trick your down, you got real telling, don't concentrate 5 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 3: on golf. 6 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 4: What's up everybody, and welcome once again to the Action 7 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 4: Network Podcast, the Golf Edition. I'm Jason Sobel from Golf Beat, 8 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 4: and alongside with me as usual now now it wasn't 9 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 4: usual last week, but now my full time regular partner 10 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 4: Justin Ray of the Fifteenth Club, the head of content there, 11 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 4: and we've got a little announcement to make before we 12 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 4: go any further. Justin's in Austin, Texas at his home 13 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 4: right now, where it is eighteen degrees outside, and you've 14 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 4: been going in and out of losing power all day 15 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 4: today Monday. So we're recording here on Monday evening, and 16 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 4: if the power goes out, I guess I'll just keep 17 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 4: talking to myself. 18 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm learning what the term rolling blackouts means. And 19 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 2: from my history that was usually like an aggressive college 20 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: football weekend back in my you know, back in my 21 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 2: early twenties, maybe a Vegas trip, bachelor party. This is 22 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: a different kind of less desirable rolling blackout where I 23 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 2: guess the power grid isn't set up for the amount 24 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: of demand that's being placed on it. Pretty much everyone 25 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: in Texas, I guess their heat comes from electricity. So 26 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 2: it's a big mess, and I hope everyone's staying safe. Luckily, 27 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: I've had enough power to do some research on this 28 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 2: week's tournament at Riviera and hopefully you know, it was 29 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 2: a little crunch for time, was a little off my 30 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 2: schedule because I have power till about noon today, But 31 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: you know, we'll try to we'll try to make some 32 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 2: good picks. But yeah, rolling blackouts and not the desirable kind. 33 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. 34 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 4: I thought rolling blackouts were when you get obliterated during 35 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 4: the member guest and your foot slips off the break 36 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 4: of the golf cart and right. 37 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that I could I could deal with. 38 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, this is like lack of heat and power, 39 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 2: so no zero chance that'll we go dark here. 40 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, if at some point we lose you during the podcast, 41 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 4: I'm just going to keep talking to you as if 42 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 4: you're there, and you just kind of be quiet because 43 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 4: you won't be there. 44 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 5: So people, I can't control what you do anyway, So have. 45 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: That put before we get into Riviera this week and 46 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 1: I can't wait. 47 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 4: I got my RIB shirt, I got my RIF hat on, 48 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 4: so I'm ready to go for Riviera. By the way, 49 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 4: I always dress appropriately for the podcast which people are 50 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 4: only listening to and can't watch, which is makes a 51 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 4: whole lot of sense. I can tell you I'm wearing 52 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 4: anything right now, and you believe me. So let's get 53 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 4: into what happened this weekend at Pebble Beach. A few 54 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 4: takeaways from this. First of all, Daniel Berger was one 55 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 4: hundred and seventh in the world just about eight or 56 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 4: nine months ago before the PGA Tour restarted in June, 57 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 4: and now he is thirteenth in the world after winning 58 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 4: it Colonial the first event of the restart. And then 59 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 4: of course this past weekend at Pebble Beach. You look fantastic. 60 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 4: A great question that I was asked today and I 61 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 4: want to get your opinion on, is what is Daniel 62 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 4: Berger's ceiling because I have a somewhat definitive opinion on 63 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 4: this and I want. 64 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: To get your take on what you think his ceiling 65 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: could be. 66 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 5: That's a good question. 67 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 2: I say ten wins and maybe a major Okay, okay, 68 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 2: you know a good care, really good. That's a great career. 69 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: Of course, you know, that's a fantastic career. So you know, 70 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 2: that's you know beyond Stuart Appleby who had nine and 71 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 2: no majors and like. 72 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 5: Shorter front couples. 73 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: Somewhere between those two, he's a little bit overshadowed in 74 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: what's looked at as his peer group. 75 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 5: You know that. 76 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: I hear that termed the class of twenty eleven from 77 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: high school, which is you know, j T. Speef Xander. 78 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 2: You know a lot of really high caliber players. And 79 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: I mean this is a guy could make some Ryder 80 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 2: Cup teams and you know, contended major championship. He's definitely 81 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: gonna got that type of game. And we saw this 82 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: week at Pebble Beach coming down the stretch. You know, 83 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 2: he's he's a really good ball striker. He's got a 84 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: real well rounded game. Really like his demeanor in big moments, 85 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: you know, it's kind of a bulldog. So yeah, I'm 86 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: wondering what you think the ceiling is if they you say, 87 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: you've got a definitive answer here. 88 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 4: Well, okay, so one of my biggest pet peeves, and 89 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 4: this happened at maybe one or two of the places 90 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 4: that you and I both used to work at. But 91 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 4: a Monday morning analysis would come of whoever just won, 92 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 4: and it's always boy, I tell you what, if he 93 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 4: plays the way he did this weekend, He's gonna win 94 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 4: a lot of tournaments. 95 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: It's like, well, yeah, but that's the whole point. 96 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 4: He's not going to play the way he did during 97 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 4: that victory every single week. 98 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: I mean, if he did it, he'd be Tiger Woods. 99 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 5: He'd win every It's really hard to win golf tournaments. Oh, 100 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 5: it's really really hard. 101 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 4: So we have to look at the guys baseline, not 102 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 4: necessarily just his A plus like best game that he's got. 103 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 4: I also think that what I've always thought that what 104 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 4: separates the top tier of players from the next year 105 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 4: is that the top tier can win any place, anytime, 106 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 4: any week. Dustin Johnson, you put him on a six 107 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 4: D seven hundred yard golf course where you barely have 108 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 4: to take driver out of the bag, and then put 109 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 4: him on a seventy nine hundred yard golf course that's 110 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 4: just a big ballpark where you're gonna mash it, and 111 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 4: Dustin Johnson is going to be the favorite on either 112 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 4: one of those golf courses. And has a really good 113 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 4: chance to win on either one of those golf courses. 114 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 4: I think what separates that top tier from the next year, 115 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 4: and I put Daniel Berger in the next tier. No 116 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 4: offense to him, but I just don't know that Daniel Berger, 117 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 4: based on where he's won so far TBC, south Wind, twice, 118 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 4: Colonial and now Pebble Beach, which is of course the 119 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 4: shortest venue on the PGA Tour, I don't know that 120 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 4: he can go to say a Tory Pines playing seventy 121 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 4: six seventy seven hundred yards whatever it might be, for 122 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 4: the US Open this year and seriously contend without. 123 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: Having his absolute best stuff. 124 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 5: Can he be up on the leaderboard? Sure? 125 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 4: Can he beat all of these other players that hold 126 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 4: an innate advantage in their length over him. I think 127 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 4: that's gonna be a little tough for him. And so 128 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 4: I think that and it comes down to, you know, 129 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 4: when we talk about his ceiling, it comes down sort 130 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 4: of where we'd put him on that totem bowl of 131 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 4: elite players right now. That's the one thing keeping me 132 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 4: from saying, oh, Daniel Berger can be a top five player, 133 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 4: it can be an absolute elite player in the top tier. 134 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 4: I still think, yes, he's very good. Let's not do 135 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 4: the Monday morning quarterback thing where we go I think 136 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 4: he can win twelve majors, you know, then just get 137 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 4: too exaggerated and carried away. 138 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I think that's a good, good analysis. 139 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 2: I always dislike that kind of hyperbolic reaction too. You know, 140 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 2: after the twenty fourteen PGA, Rory McElroy is going to 141 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 2: win eleven majors, like we yet three guys in the 142 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 2: history of the sport have done that, like he might. 143 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 2: He's really good, he's at an historic pace, but there's 144 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 2: a lot more you know of the you know, win 145 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 2: him in a burst and then not so much. I mean, 146 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 2: let's say, let's go back in time to twenty seventeen 147 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 2: when Jason Day was just eviscerating everyone on the planet. 148 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 2: I guess that was probably fifteen into sixteen, when he 149 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 2: was the best player in the world, and you think 150 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 2: he's a world beater, He's gonna win six major championships, like, Look, 151 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: it's really hard to win tournaments keep that pace going. 152 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 2: Those who do end up as one of the ten 153 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 2: best or fifteen best to ever played. So, you know, 154 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 2: careers like Tiger Phil and you know, now, DJ, really 155 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: that's that's the supreme exception. You know, it just doesn't 156 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 2: happen that often. 157 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 5: Stuff to do. 158 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: But my only counter to your point about Burger fifty 159 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: four all co leader at the US Open at Shinnecock. 160 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 2: So I mean, yeah, I know that was a weird year. 161 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: And that was that Saturday where you know, Phil had 162 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 2: his moment. 163 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 5: Where he you know, played hockey on the green and. 164 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: You know it was kind of a crazy scoring day 165 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 2: the Zach Johnson they lost the course day, and you know, 166 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 2: but he was a fifty four all co leader at 167 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 2: Shinnecock big course. So I think at his peak, he's 168 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 2: got the capability to you can, you can, like I said, 169 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 2: he could get to double digits wins and I could 170 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 2: see him, you know, winning. 171 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 5: A major championship. A PGA maybe might. 172 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 2: Fit him, or or maybe an Open one day, but 173 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 2: you know, I don't know. We'll see, uh, we'll see 174 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 2: where where he lands on the spectrum there. 175 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 4: Okay, if he wins a major two, maybe I'll elevate 176 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 4: his his status to superstar status. I think right now 177 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 4: just just regular star, not superstar is where I think 178 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 4: I think. 179 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 2: We appropriately did the skip Stephen a half and half 180 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 2: to like a proper extent there, but there's a little 181 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 2: bit of a disagreement, but not hyperbole for the sake 182 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: of showing. 183 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we can do without that. 184 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 5: First make me bayless. God, I was his researcher. 185 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 4: Jeez, we did Michael Collins and I did a podcast 186 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 4: with Skip way back in the day. 187 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: And I hate to say it because I wasn't a 188 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: big fan of the show and I wasn't a big 189 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: fan of his, and he was absolutely awesome on the podcast. 190 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 4: I was floored because I was I was fully prepared 191 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 4: to be like, this is gonna be the worst thing ever. 192 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 1: I can't believe we're getting him, and why are we 193 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: doing this? But it's a big name. If he tweets 194 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: it out, a lot of people listen to it. 195 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 5: For sure. 196 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, he was awesome. He couldn't have been better talking 197 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 4: about golf. I swear I didn't expect it. I never 198 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 4: thought it would have happened. He's telling stories about Hogan 199 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 4: and Nelson from his Dallas. 200 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 6: Roots and he was really really good, and and whatever 201 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 6: tournament had been, I think it was right when Ricky 202 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 6: Fowler went the Players Championship and he was going back 203 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 6: you know, it was only a few days later, but 204 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 6: not just oh yeah, I know that Ricky won the players. 205 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 4: I mean he was going shot for shot down the 206 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 4: back nine, talking about everything that every player was going through. 207 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 4: I mean he knew exactly what was going on, and 208 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 4: he was he was really into itself. 209 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 5: I don't know, and I kid, I can't. 210 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: I mean the times I worked with him, he was 211 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: totally professional to a twenty four year old who didn't 212 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 2: serve his time of day, so you know, from a. 213 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 5: Totem pole speaking standpoint in TV. 214 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: But no, yeah, I think we went on both appropriately 215 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 2: there split. 216 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 5: It down the middle with the future for Daniel Berger. 217 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: Great win. 218 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: One of the number that I was that I most 219 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 2: was surprised by, I was how well he scrambled. He 220 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 2: led the field in scrambling percentage made me think a 221 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 2: lot about what Gary Woodland did at the US Open 222 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, where he entered you know, 223 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 2: scrambling shortcame not Gary Woodland's calling card certainly wasn't that 224 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 2: season going into Pebble Beach, and he led the field 225 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 2: in scrambling at Pebble Beach and route to his US 226 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 2: Open win. So it was that was one number that 227 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 2: kind of brought back that memory. 228 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 5: Of what Woodland did a couple of years ago. 229 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: I want to talk about Jordan's speed real quick before 230 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: we get into the field at riv this week. 231 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 4: First, two commonalities that I thought were very interesting about 232 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 4: the last three champions on the PGA Tour. One is 233 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 4: tangible and the fact that Patrick Reid, Brooks Keepka, Daniel 234 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 4: Berger we're each coming off of miscut the previous week. 235 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 4: I mean, we're in the prognostication business, the prediction business here. 236 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 4: The one thing you look at is, hey, let's see 237 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 4: who's informed, who's sort of gaining some momentum so they 238 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 4: can start playing well and maybe contend this week. They're 239 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 4: all coming off miscuts. You know how hard lot is 240 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 4: to figure that stuff out. And the other thing that 241 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 4: I'll say is more of an intangible But you look 242 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 4: at three guys who play with absolute chips on their shoulder, 243 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 4: whether they are realized or imagined. Patrick Reid is a guy, Okay, 244 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 4: I get the chip on his shoulder and I totally 245 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 4: understand it. You know, whether he put it there himself 246 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 4: or the rest of the viewing public has taken it 247 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 4: like that. 248 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: Boulder they moved out. 249 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 4: Of the way for Tiger years ago in Phoenix and 250 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 4: placed it upon his shoulder. There's one there, brooks Kepka 251 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 4: with a perceived chip on his shoulder. 252 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: Because he thinks, I don't know that you know, we uses. 253 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 5: It as fuel. 254 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, fair to say. 255 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, he thinks that we don't think he's as good 256 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 4: as he actually is or something like that. 257 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. And then Burger yesterday, after he won, 258 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: he was asked about being underrated. He goes, I'm underrated. 259 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: He goes, good, I hope. 260 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 4: You guys keep calling me underrated. I get that chip 261 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 4: on my shoulder and I'll keep firing bass up. 262 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: I don't know Daniel Berger listens to this. 263 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 4: I said he might have trouble winning a major, and 264 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 4: you know, like it's more firing up to play better. 265 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 5: I hope he's mad that I said he'd win ten 266 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 5: times and win one major. 267 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 2: If you justin Berger, You're like, you know, what the 268 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,599 Speaker 2: hell do you know? I'm gonna win thirty times and 269 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 2: win five majors? So you know, yeah, definitely that's the 270 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 2: way I do it. If that's what someone said to me, 271 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 2: So at least that's the way I look at it. 272 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 5: But yeah, no speak. 273 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 2: First player to hold the fifty four hole lead in 274 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 2: back to back weeks and not win either tournament in 275 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 2: eight years Daniel Summer Hayes did it in twenty thirteen 276 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 2: at the John Deere and I believe the Sanderson Farms, 277 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 2: which may have been opposite field that week with the 278 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 2: Open Championship, So it's been a. 279 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 5: Long time since that happened. 280 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 2: Tough for Jordan, but his drive, his driving number is 281 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 2: not great, but his iron play really good. Once again, 282 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 2: He's at seventy five percent of his greens and regulation 283 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,719 Speaker 2: over the last two weeks. Entering this stretch, the last 284 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 2: two weeks, he was under sixty percent for the season. 285 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: So I think that's one thing that people can take 286 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 2: positively going forward for Jordan. 287 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 4: Will There are some people who will listen to that 288 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 4: stat justin and go, uh, last person to have that 289 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 4: fifty four old lead back to back and then didn't 290 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 4: win either of them, Daniel Summerys doesn't even play golf anymore. 291 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 4: He's out of the game. So look, that's where Jordan's headed. 292 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 4: I'm telling you, like, Jordan can't do it anymore. You 293 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 4: know he's gonna be just like Summer Hayes, He's gonna 294 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 4: be out of the game in a few years. 295 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,719 Speaker 1: This guy's terrible. I can't tell. 296 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 4: I mean, I spent the entire weekend basically playing whack 297 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 4: a mole with Twitter trolls, and one of the one 298 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 4: of the subjects, one of the bigger subjects, was the 299 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 4: Jordan Spieth is never going to get it back. He 300 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 4: can't win, he can't play on a Sunday with pressure 301 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 4: on him. I'm like, guys, relax it. My tweet was, hey, 302 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 4: two weeks ago, if we told you Jordan would have 303 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 4: back to back top twenty five, you'd be like, Wow, 304 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 4: that's really good. He's trending's possive fives. 305 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 5: Whoa, that's crazy. 306 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: He went from nowhere to the top fives. And now 307 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: we're sitting here and we're supposed to. 308 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 4: Say, oh yeah, but he didn't win either one, So 309 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:27,839 Speaker 4: you know, I think he's probably washed up. 310 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: The question. 311 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 4: I've gone over this kind of my radio show Hitting 312 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 4: the Green on Serious XM PGA Tour Radio earlier today, 313 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 4: and you know, I'll bring this up with you. Jordan 314 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:41,719 Speaker 4: thinks he's an elite player? Is that correct? I mean, 315 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 4: is that's. 316 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 2: Three majors, youngest two time major winter since Jeen Sarah's 317 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: And I'd say that's elite. 318 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: The elite players when do they want their games to peak. 319 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,719 Speaker 5: There's four weeks a year, maybe five if it's a 320 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 5: Ryder Cup here, and. 321 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 4: It wasn't this past weekend. So why would we look 322 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 4: at what Jordan's done over the last two weeks, weeks 323 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 4: where he hasn't finished up golf tournaments on a Sunday 324 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 4: afternoon and say, well, he can't get it done now. 325 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: So you know that was his best chance and he's 326 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: not going to get it done. 327 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 4: Can't we instead look at it justin that he's building 328 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 4: up his way towards those bigger events later in the year. 329 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, My point would be you were talking about that 330 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 2: Daniel Summer Hayes is the last guy to do that. 331 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 5: It's really more you rarely have a guy lead. 332 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: After fifty four holes back to back weeks like the 333 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 2: guys who have done it recently. It's DJ and the 334 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 2: playoffs justin Thomas and Hawaii when he went nuts a 335 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 2: few years ago, like it doesn't happen Brendan Todd when 336 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 2: he had that out of body experience in the fall 337 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 2: sling a couple of years ago. Yeah, it doesn't happen 338 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 2: very often. It's like it was only like six or 339 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 2: seven instances of it happening during that span since twenty thirteen, 340 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 2: and just all those other instances, someone won one of 341 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 2: the two tournaments or in a few instances, won both 342 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 2: of them. So, I mean, look, it's really difficult to 343 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 2: put yourself in that position every so often. I think 344 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 2: I always try on Saturday, and I try to give 345 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 2: perspective to what, you know, the question always if a 346 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 2: guy is in fifty four leading doesn't win, he's always hammered, right, 347 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 2: he's always just blasted, like this guy can't close, like 348 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: he's you know, he doesn't have it. He doesn't have 349 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: the you know, the intestinal fortitudo to get it done 350 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 2: down the stretch. 351 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 5: He just can't do it. Players with a two shot lead. 352 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 2: On the PGA Tour of the last fifteen years win 353 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 2: forty percent of the time, forty percent less than half flip. 354 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 5: That's a two shot lead. 355 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 2: That's a that's I mean, that's not tied, that's not 356 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 2: one shot. That's you've got a legitimate two shot head 357 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 2: start going into the final round. Those guys win forty 358 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: percent of the time. Everyone's perspective of how easy it 359 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 2: is to close was completely altered by what Tiger Woods 360 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 2: did because it was so ridiculously superhuman to go forty 361 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 2: four for forty six with an outright fifty four whole league. 362 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 2: No one is ever going to come remotely close. 363 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 5: To that again. 364 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 2: And I still think we have that kind of perspective 365 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 2: when a guy doesn't close that, you know, it's it's 366 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: some kind of problem with his No, it's really hard 367 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: to win golf tournaments. He had a world class player, 368 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 2: Daniel Berger. Patrick can't lays on his tail. Nate Lashley 369 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 2: is having the putting week of his life. You talking 370 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 2: about trying to prognosticate golf now. Nate Lashley was leading 371 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 2: the tournament and strokes skate putting before. I think it 372 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 2: was sixteen when he had the episode. I mean, and 373 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 2: he entered the week like one hundred and seventieth in 374 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 2: the statistics, So go figure. I mean, a guy had 375 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 2: a hot putter, instruck the ball brilliantly. He's got all 376 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 2: that behind him, Like, it's really tough to win, it's 377 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 2: tough to close, and you know, I would more take 378 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 2: the positives out of Jordan's Iron stats moving forward, than 379 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 2: you know, kind of be disappointed by the fact that, look, 380 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 2: it's he's probably he was bummed after the tournament that 381 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: he didn't win, and it's easy to be disappointed in 382 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 2: the moment, but take it as a positive. You're a 383 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 2: Jordan's Peace fan moving forward. 384 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 4: Absolutely couldn't agree more. Tiger has ruined everything for everybody, basically, 385 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 4: is what we're getting at. 386 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: If you're a fan of the game, you're like, how 387 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: come these guys don't close every single time? By the way, 388 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: justin and I've had a player and. 389 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 4: I don't think the stats would back this up, but 390 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 4: I have a player telling me before he would rather 391 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 4: be trailing by two going into Sunday's final round than 392 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 4: a leading by two. 393 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 2: Mathematically that doesn't necessarily make sense, but I will say 394 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 2: if it impacts his perspective going into the round, makes 395 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 2: him a little less nervous, freeze. 396 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:11,719 Speaker 1: A guy up. 397 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 5: Yep, you know, maybe a guy is. 398 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 2: You know, less likely to be aggressive when he's successful 399 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,719 Speaker 2: when he's an aggresive player, And maybe there's some instances 400 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 2: where that would be the case. It might it might 401 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 2: work out for that guy, But mathematically, no you wouldn't. 402 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 5: Want to do it. 403 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 4: We see it all the time when guys have the 404 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 4: lead and they tend to play a little more defensively 405 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 4: because they're trying to protect the lead as opposed. 406 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: To let's play some offense. 407 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 5: You know. 408 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 1: It's just like halfway through the fourth quarter, team has 409 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: the ball. 410 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 4: Well, we haven't been running it well all game, but 411 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 4: we're up, so let's try to run the ball and 412 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 4: run out the clot Well, yeah, that's not going to 413 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 4: work while you just keep throwing the ball because they 414 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 4: can't stop you throwing the ball. 415 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: And they win the game. 416 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 5: So it's basketball team about to pull an upset. 417 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 2: They're up twelve to four minutes to go and they 418 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 2: just hold the ball. 419 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 5: That's when the other team makes the run. It's always 420 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 5: like that, yep. 421 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, So let's get to Riviera a little bit. 422 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 4: What a fantastic stick field we've got for the last 423 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 4: event on the West Coast Swing this week. Eight of 424 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 4: the top ten I believe, twelve of the top fifteen, 425 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 4: most of the names everyone knows and loves, including DJ 426 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 4: Rory rom JT Xander at the top of the odds 427 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 4: board this week. 428 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: So let's start there. That top tier. I'm struggling already. 429 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: I cannot go. 430 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 4: As low as plus five fifty eleven to two for DJs. 431 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 4: I don't care how great DJ has been. I saw 432 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 4: your stats you tweeted out. I understand DJ's really really 433 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 4: good at Riviera. I just can't bring myself to go 434 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 4: plus five fifty for DJ. 435 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: But it should. He be the clear favorite this week, 436 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: first of all. And who do you like out of 437 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: that top tier if you had to pick one of 438 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: these guys. 439 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 2: The answer is unequivocally yes, he should be the favorite. 440 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 2: Over the last ten years, Dustin Johnson leads this tournament 441 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 2: drum roll in scoring, average, birdie average STROPSK and TITA 442 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 2: green strops gain, total bogey avoidance, which is a huge 443 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 2: thing for me this week is limiting your mistakes. 444 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 5: He's since the PGA Championship. 445 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 2: He has four wins and four rounds over par to 446 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 2: tell you about his form. 447 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 5: So yeah, I think unequickly he should be the favorite. 448 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 5: But I'm with you, five plus five fifty is just 449 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 5: that's not enough. Man. I just can't do it against 450 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 5: the field this strong. 451 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, consider he was four to one before 452 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 4: he withdrew from Pebble last week, only increasing that a 453 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 4: little bit. 454 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: With this kind of field, that's tough. If you had 455 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: to pick somebody from the top tier. 456 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 4: If I said, hey, here's twenty bucks, beal, it can 457 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 4: only take one of the top Oh, let's say six 458 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 4: to eight guys on the board. Everyone who's sort of 459 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 4: inside twenty five to one, thirty to one. 460 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: Is DJ the guy that you take just. 461 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 4: To get a little ROI or is there somebody else 462 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 4: lower on the list that you like. 463 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 5: I'm going down a little bit. I'm going to take 464 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 5: Patrick Cantlay. 465 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 2: If the golf tournament last week was only held on 466 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 2: Pebble Beach, he probably would have won. He shot seventy 467 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 2: three at Spyglass in round two. He led the field 468 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 2: in greens relation despite only hitting eleven greens that day 469 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 2: at Spyglass. Finished second and third in his last two starts, 470 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 2: five straight top twenties going back to the fall. That 471 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 2: includes winning at Sherwood last fall. So he's got some 472 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 2: California vibes there. He's second in bogie avoidance here since 473 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, only Dustin Johns has been better. 474 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 5: You know, I think there's. 475 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 2: Just just getting a little bit more value there with 476 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 2: Patrick cantlay, a guy who's just been exceptional, and if 477 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 2: the putter gets hot and he can win by three 478 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 2: or four shots this week, there. 479 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: I tend to agree with you. 480 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 4: If it's the old proverbial office pool and just hey, 481 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 4: pick up player, then I might go DJ, just based 482 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 4: on you know, if there's no odds or anything else 483 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 4: that's involved, it's just Hey, a guy you like, and 484 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 4: so you know, yeah, DJ's obviously been good. I really 485 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 4: like can't Lay, and I'm still a xanderstan I will 486 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 4: I will go to battle with Xander Schoffley. 487 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: Any given week. 488 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 4: And I think that he's got talk about chips on 489 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 4: guy's shoulders, he's got a little chip on his shoulder 490 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 4: right now, trying to prove to everybody that he is 491 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 4: not a choker by any means, and I really don't 492 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 4: think that label suits him very well. 493 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 5: I think he's a. 494 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 4: Pretty tough dude when it comes to playing down the stretch. 495 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 4: So I wouldn't be surprised if Xander sort of views 496 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 4: this as maybe a little more important for him than 497 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 4: it is for maybe some other players out there. 498 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 2: The guy has had a lot of success in huge events, 499 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 2: right hasn't broke through the winning a major, but you know, 500 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 2: close in the US Open, runner up, at the Masters, 501 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 2: runner up with the players, you know, tour Championship, like 502 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 2: a lot of events with really strong fields, tournament champions. 503 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 5: So he won't back down from that. 504 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 2: Guys, you know, week in week out, he's got a 505 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 2: great chance to win anywhere because he's really good at everything. 506 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 2: You look at his strokes, game numbers, he's well above 507 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 2: average and basically every you know, empirical category that they have. 508 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 2: So a Xander Stan a standard that's terrible. 509 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 4: I won't ever say Stan, Xander. 510 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: Yeah there's something in there terrible. 511 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, Yeah, should be all right. 512 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: Let's move base on power. So that's great, let's keep trucking. 513 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 4: There are a lot of guys. I figure this thirty 514 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 4: to one, fifty to sixty to one. That's my usual 515 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 4: sweet spot. I usually like a lot of players in 516 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 4: that range. I think there's some value, but obviously guys 517 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 4: who can really play in are really strong talents. I'll 518 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,479 Speaker 4: name a bunch of them in this level and you 519 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 4: tell me kind of who you like, who you don't like. 520 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 4: I didn't write up Colin Morikaw with thirty three to 521 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,719 Speaker 4: one in my preview this week, but I could certainly 522 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 4: see Morikawa playing really well on a second shot golf course. 523 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 4: Victor Hovland, he's my pick to win this week, as 524 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 4: far as you know a favorite outright. 525 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: I don't feel very confident in that he didn't make the. 526 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 4: Round of sixty four the only other time you played 527 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 4: here at the twenty seventeen US Amateur. But the numbers 528 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 4: are all trending in the right direction. Four top six 529 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 4: finishes in his last five worldwide starts. I like a decy. 530 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 4: All the numbers have not been good lately, so I 531 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 4: don't love him. I like Scotti Scheffler. But speaking of numbers, 532 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 4: his ball striking has not been good this season. 533 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: I don't know why his strokes gained approach. 534 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 4: I was pretty shocked when I saw he was one 535 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 4: hundred and eighty second this season, which is way worse. 536 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: Than I would have thought he was. 537 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 4: Joaquin Neeman, I like a lot. We tend to just 538 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 4: sort of forgetting about guys. We don't see them for 539 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 4: a little bit, out of sight, out of mind. He 540 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 4: was second second in Hawaii. It hasn't played since then, 541 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 4: so I think he's gonna be a good one and 542 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 4: a couple of guys that we've seen play well here 543 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 4: Max Homa, who's basically playing well every week on the 544 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 4: West Coast. Then Mark Leishman's got a couple of top 545 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 4: fives in the past five years at this one. Any 546 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 4: of those names or anybody else strike you as guys 547 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 4: that you like. 548 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 2: You like Victor Hoblin, so do I ty for second 549 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 2: of Tory Pines on a tough course, tied for six 550 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 2: in Saudi Arabia, and his last start, he's hitting about 551 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 2: seventy five percent of his greens in regulation this season, 552 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 2: top ten on the PGA Tour. My only concern around 553 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 2: Riviera is the thing he professes that he's been on 554 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 2: camera saying he sucks at, which is a short game 555 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 2: grambling a little bit more important than normal when it 556 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 2: comes to winners week to week, comparing it to the 557 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 2: PGA Tour average here a Riviera, So a little bit 558 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 2: of a concern there. But I think his ball striking. 559 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 5: Is so good it carries him everywhere. I mean, he's 560 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 5: a guy. 561 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 2: Sneakily into the top fifteen in the world, kind of 562 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 2: like all of a sudden, you know, a guy who's 563 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 2: going to be on the short list to be, you know, 564 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 2: next to break through and win that next the first 565 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 2: major championship, I mean, right behind guys like Ram and Xander, 566 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 2: and maybe he might jump ahead of female by the 567 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 2: time we get to the Masters. 568 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 5: You never know. 569 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 2: So I like hoblind a lot. I think there's I 570 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 2: think there's some good value there and I don't know breakthrough. 571 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 2: My bet on him would be a top ten, not 572 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 2: to win necessarily, but you know, he's really interesting to 573 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 2: me this week. 574 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: I want to ask you, and I'm putting you on 575 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 1: the spot here. I don't know if you've done the 576 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: research on this yet. 577 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 4: But is there anything about inexperience that should keep us 578 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 4: and hold us back from a guy like Hovelin this 579 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 4: week who hasn't played in the Genesis before? Is there 580 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 4: something to having played this one three, four or five 581 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 4: six times in the past and at least kind of 582 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 4: knowing the. 583 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 1: Golf course a little bit. Like I said, he's there. 584 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 4: In competition, but it was twenty seventeen US Amateur shot 585 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 4: I believe seventy two to seventy eight and did not 586 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 4: advance to the round of sixty four. 587 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, totally different too. 588 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 2: I think you know, a few years removed a guy 589 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 2: who's had some experience and some big. 590 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 5: Events since then. 591 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 2: It's probably a different caliber player now, obviously as he 592 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 2: gets into his pro career. You know, we've had some 593 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 2: experience pay off there in recent years. Jamie Holmes beat 594 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 2: Justin Thomas coming down the stretch few years ago, Adam 595 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 2: Scott the defending champion last year, Dustin Johnson winning and 596 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 2: getting to world number one a couple of years ago. 597 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 2: Maybe there's something to be said for, you know, for 598 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 2: experience paying around Riviera. You know, we haven't had too 599 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 2: many really young winners there recently. And like you said, 600 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 2: I don't have all the numbers right in front of you, 601 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 2: but yeah, no, I think there is something to be 602 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 2: said for that. For yeah, there could be some more 603 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 2: value there for guys who've got a few more rounds 604 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 2: under their belt playing at Riviera, all right. 605 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: Anyone else from that range before we get to those 606 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: lower tier guys. 607 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 2: Who pulling it up now. You know, brooks Kopka is 608 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 2: really interesting. I got him a plus twenty five hundred. 609 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 2: His iron play was outstanding in Phoenix. You wonder if 610 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 2: he you know, he always he always just brings it 611 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 2: so much more in these bigger events, and this is 612 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 2: basically a major championship caliber field. You noted how many 613 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 2: elite players we've got twelve the top fifteen or something 614 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 2: along those lines. He's a guy who you might be 615 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 2: interested in this week. Another guy at plus four thousand, 616 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 2: Adam Scott led the field in greens and regulation last 617 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 2: year at Riviera. He's got a pretty good history before that. 618 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 2: I think that's a pretty good number for Adam Scott. 619 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 2: He's right there around the lines of what Jordan Spieth 620 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 2: at plus four thousand, Deckie matsi Alma plus forty five hundred. 621 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 2: So you know, Adam Scott not a ton of success 622 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 2: recently since this win at Riviera, but you know the 623 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 2: defending champion who's an excellent ball striker, and of course 624 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 2: that really demands. 625 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 4: It anything about the Masters of the Augusta National correlation 626 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 4: to Riviera. I made mention my preview piece this week 627 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 4: that five of the last seven winners at Riviera have 628 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 4: been Masters champions. 629 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: That is skewed a little bit. 630 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 4: Because of course Bubba Watson has been three of those winners, 631 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 4: and so of course he's won the Masters twice. But 632 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 4: then you have Scott, who you mentioned in DJ. Of course, 633 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 4: is there anything to hey, guys that play well at 634 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 4: Augusta should or can play well at Riviera as well? 635 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 2: Just pulling up the list of winners, and it's a 636 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 2: great question because it's not just there's got to be 637 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 2: something about lefties there, right at the Masters, Phil Bo, Bubba, 638 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 2: Mike Weir. Mike Weir's won twice at Riviera. You know, 639 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 2: Phil's had success at Riviera. 640 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 5: He's won here. 641 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 2: I mean it's Bubba Watson obviously three wins here. There's 642 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 2: got to be something about the shot shape, right, I mean, 643 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 2: there's just something that just fits, you know, when you 644 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:50,719 Speaker 2: tie those two venues together. 645 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 5: But amazingly, Riviera Tiger has never won. 646 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 2: I don't think Jack's ever won at Riviera either, So 647 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 2: it's it's a pretty it's a pretty incredible, you know, 648 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 2: correlation there between some of the similarities. 649 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 5: Maybe the demands of the game between Riviera and Augusta. 650 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 1: Nashville load up, Brian Harman. 651 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 5: I don't know, I don't know what we do. 652 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: I was gonna actually look to see if was playing. 653 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 1: I don't think he is. 654 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 4: Probably I was talking to a buddy of mine the 655 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 4: other day who's trying to make it and going to 656 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 4: one of the Q schools for one of the PGA 657 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 4: Tour levels and he said, you know, we're watching We're 658 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 4: sitting at the bar at West Orange last week and 659 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 4: he's looking up at the TV s. He's Akha, who 660 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 4: was in second place at that point. He goes, dude, 661 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,439 Speaker 4: I'm supposed to play against him in a qualifier in like 662 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 4: two weeks. Like, yeah, good luck with that, bro. You're 663 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 4: playing against me today, You're playing against ok Shay in 664 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 4: two weeks. I ain't gonna prepare you for him. So yeah, 665 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 4: that kid can that kid can play a little bit. 666 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 4: Let's get to his lower tier. And I always struggle 667 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 4: justin with what we consider a sleeper or a dark horse. 668 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 4: I'm gonna, based on the field this week, call it 669 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,479 Speaker 4: eighty to one and higher. 670 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: And I've got a lot of guys that I like 671 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: in this range. 672 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 4: And we started, I'm just gonna go down the list 673 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 4: and mention a few names and see who you like. 674 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 4: But Carlos Ortiz at ninety to one, very very interesting 675 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 4: to me. Matthew Fitzpatrick at one hundred to one, very 676 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 4: interesting to me. I know a lot of people like 677 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 4: Cameron Trongali I'm not as interested in him this week. 678 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: Go down the list. 679 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 4: Lonto Griffin has played very well on tough West Coast 680 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 4: golf courses. 681 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: The Zozo. He was in that final group Tori a 682 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: few weeks ago, played really well. 683 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 4: So he's a guy that I like. Kegan Bradley. I 684 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 4: just I'm getting sucked in the ball. Striking numbers are fantastic. 685 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 4: I know that he hits it like Ben Hogan and 686 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 4: putts like Hulk Cogan. 687 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: But if he can ever get that. 688 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 4: Putter going in the right direction, he put it dead 689 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 4: even in Phoenix few weeks ago, as far as strokes 690 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 4: gained and finished twenty second. If you could just like 691 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 4: gain a stroke every day, he said, that's his target. 692 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 2: Right between like even and a stroke for around. Yeah, 693 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 2: for sure he can do it. And the meantime, how 694 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 2: many when you think of Keigan Bradley, one of the 695 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 2: moments you always think of, beyond the Ryder Cup PGA 696 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 2: Championship is that duel with Phil Mickelson at View. 697 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: Yes so Boss was in there too, right, Yeah. 698 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, But you know the two dramatic puts 699 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 2: those guys made back to back. 700 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 5: It was a great moment. Ten years ago. 701 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: Now I root for Keegan. 702 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 4: I know Keegan really well, and uh he sometimes gets 703 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 4: a bad rapping like the the bedding and in DFS communities. 704 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: Freaking Keegan just totally boned me on the weekend. 705 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 2: Getting better every aspect of my game. In my game, 706 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,959 Speaker 2: I go out hit it this way that it's just 707 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 2: not going. 708 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: To come off strong. 709 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 4: I hate Bradley, but Keegan's a great guy and I 710 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 4: still think he's a tremendous player who is going to. 711 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: Get back to that level at some point. 712 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 4: The two other games I was gonna throw I in 713 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 4: that lower tier, uh, the two US Amateur finalists from 714 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 4: four years ago, Doug gimm who finished in second place, 715 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 4: who's playing really well right now. And then the guy 716 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 4: I gotta jump back on the train. I've been driving 717 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 4: this bandwagon for a long time. Doc Redman, who I've 718 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 4: gotten off of just a little bit, but I'm a 719 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 4: huge Doc Redmand. 720 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 5: Guy, Doc Redman, Doctor Doctor. Any of the new who's that. 721 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 6: Got a game. 722 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 4: Two seventy five to one this week. I don't think 723 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 4: he's gonna win, but that's a huge number. 724 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, he could get maybe a little bit of value 725 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 2: there for him to top ten at a place where 726 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 2: he's had obviously the biggest win of his life so far. 727 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 2: So yeah, for sure, I'm I'm with you on Carlo 728 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 2: Soortiz my favorite number. On Ortiz, he leads all players 729 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 2: of strokes game putting per round at Riviera in the 730 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 2: last five years. So in addition to his good form, 731 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 2: we've got that going for him. Likes the greens at Riviera. 732 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 2: One earlier this season breaking through in Houston. You know, 733 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 2: I think I'm with you there on Ortiz. I got 734 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 2: a real long shot. Now, this is a guy who 735 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 2: has been terrible at Riviera over the last five six years. 736 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 2: Last five years, he's got the highest bogie average of 737 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 2: anyone at Riviera among those who play regularly. 738 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 5: That's not a good sell. 739 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 2: Recent Major champion last year was a total wash because 740 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 2: he moved to South southern California. Two top tens in 741 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 2: his last three starts. 742 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: Oh no, folks, I believe it's happened. If we said 743 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: it at the beginning of the podcast, we thought we might. 744 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 4: Lose Justin Ray because of those cold, wintery conditions in Austin, Texas. 745 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 4: I think we lost Justin Ray. I see him still 746 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 4: on my screen. I see him there but he is frozen, 747 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 4: maybe literally. I don't want to joke about it, but 748 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 4: I won't leave you in suspense. I at least know 749 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 4: where he was going with that play. A guy who 750 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 4: a recent major champion, who was sort of a wash 751 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,719 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty and has been enjoying a little bit 752 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 4: of a resurgence right now, and he just joined Riviera 753 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 4: in fact to moving to southern California. 754 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: That's Francesco Molinari. Yeah, I think he can played pretty 755 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: well this week. 756 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 4: So yeah, Justin's texting me now power went out, no idea. 757 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: If you'll get this text, we died Molinari. 758 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 4: That's what the text messages from Justin Race say. So 759 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 4: I'm going to leave you with this because I am 760 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 4: not going to do a DFS lineup without my co 761 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 4: conspirator here. 762 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 5: You can listen to. 763 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 4: Us and watch us on the Gimme on Wednesday, eight 764 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 4: thirty pm Eastern time. Justin and I along with Amanda Rose, 765 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 4: we'll make a DFS lineup on there, and they'll be 766 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 4: even better than the one we're going to do here. 767 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: On the pod today. 768 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 4: But yeah, I think we got through most of the 769 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 4: guys that we like this week at Riviera should be 770 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 4: a fantastic week. 771 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: I can't wait for it. 772 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 4: Good luck and stay safe to all the people out 773 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 4: there in those winnery cold conditions. I feel for you, guys. 774 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 4: I've been there, and you know I know it's no fun. 775 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 4: So really stay safe. And if if golf at least 776 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 4: takes your mind off things a little bit this week, 777 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 4: then hopefully we can we can help you out with that. 778 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 4: So good luck with everything this week and all of 779 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 4: your plays. 780 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 1: Here's hoping you guys hit the gree We're finished talking