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Speaker 2: We're covering a lot of breaking news this morning out
Speaker 2: of the Middle East, the US taking extraordinary strikes on Iran.
Speaker 2: We have a statement from the present that he posted
Speaker 2: in the early morning hours. We're going to have news reports,
Speaker 2: analysis over the course of this morning, as we will
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Speaker 2: Christina sufice to say, we're both woken early by all.
Speaker 3: Of this news, quite early.
Speaker 4: This was not quite the show we had planned today,
Speaker 4: as we just mentioned, but look, this is why we're here,
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Speaker 4: people were awake all night, people were online immediately and
Speaker 4: reporting this out. We want to play you some more
Speaker 4: of the sound from that startling about eight minute statement
Speaker 4: the President dropped on social media this morning. Again, he
Speaker 4: didn't call the press pool. He didn't notify everyone. While
Speaker 4: we talked to our reporter in mar Lago, and she
Speaker 4: said she found out when the rest of the world
Speaker 4: did post it online. Among some of the many remarkable
Speaker 4: things in that statement, including a declaration of war against
Speaker 4: Iran and a call for regime change, the President also
Speaker 4: said this campaign could cost American lives.
Speaker 5: The lives of courageous American heroes may be lost, and
Speaker 5: we may have casualties that often happens in war. But
Speaker 5: we're doing this not for now. We're doing this for
Speaker 5: the future, and it is a noble mission. We pray
Speaker 5: for every service member as they selflessly risk their lives
Speaker 5: to ensure that Americans and our children will never be
Speaker 5: threatened by a nuclear armed Iran. We ask God to
Speaker 5: protect all of our heroes in harm's way, and we
Speaker 5: trust that with his help, the men and women of
Speaker 5: the Armed Forces will prevail. We have the greatest in
Speaker 5: the world. They will prevail. To the members of the
Speaker 5: Islamic Revolutionary Guard, the Armed Forces, and all of the police.
Speaker 5: I say tonight that you must lay down your weapons
Speaker 5: and have complete immunity, or, in the alternative, face certain death.
Speaker 5: So lay down your arms. You will be treated fairly
Speaker 5: with total immunity, or you will face certain death. Finally,
Speaker 5: to the great, proud people of Iran, I say tonight
Speaker 5: that the hour of your freedom is at hand. Stay sheltered,
Speaker 5: don't leave your home. It's very dangerous outside. Bombs will
Speaker 5: be dropping everywhere. When we are finished take over your government,
Speaker 5: it will be yours to take. This will be probably
Speaker 5: your only chance for generations. For many years you have
Speaker 5: asked for America's help, but you never got it. No
Speaker 5: president was willing to do what I am willing to
Speaker 5: do tonight. Now you have a president who is giving
Speaker 5: you what you want. So let's see how you respond.
Speaker 5: America is backing you with overwhelming strength and devastating force.
Speaker 5: Now is the time to seize control of your destiny
Speaker 5: and to unleash the prosperous and glorious future that is
Speaker 5: close within your reach. This is the moment for action.
Speaker 5: Do not let it pass. May God bless the brave
Speaker 5: men and women of America's Armed forces. May God bless
Speaker 5: the United States of America. May God bless you all.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 2: The last two minutes of that extraordinary statement from the
Speaker 2: President of United States released on truth social early this morning,
Speaker 2: well before dawn. Our coverage spans the globe, and I'm
Speaker 2: going to bring in Dan Williams, Jerusalem based correspondent for
Speaker 2: Bloomberg newslam that Jemann top set, you, the anchor of
Speaker 2: Horizons on Bloomberg Television, Joe Matthew, the anchor of Balance
Speaker 2: of Power, and Jeff Mason, White House correspondent with us
Speaker 2: on set here in New York. Jimani, we're just talking
Speaker 2: about your current circumstance, the fact that you've been hearing
Speaker 2: these strikes where you're sitting. I want to go to
Speaker 2: that entreaty from the President of the United States there
Speaker 2: at the end, urging Iranians to lay down their weapons.
Speaker 2: I should point out here these are airstrikes, and one
Speaker 2: wonders what the logical next steps would be were one
Speaker 2: to do that on the ground in Iran. And I'm
Speaker 2: curious how you're thinking about that. The President calling for
Speaker 2: Iranians effectively to rise up, calling on the Revolutionary.
Speaker 4: Guard those who do lay down their weapons, but.
Speaker 3: What mechanisms in place to do that.
Speaker 2: Talk about that challenge, if you would, Jumana, in these
Speaker 2: next few hours and days.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, it's a huge challenge, and I think from
Speaker 6: what we can gather, just the retaliation that all of
Speaker 6: these Gulf states have seen and witness of the last
Speaker 6: few hours, suggests that the Iranian regime isn't going to
Speaker 6: go down quietly. They've been reading themselves for the real
Speaker 6: possibility of military action.
Speaker 4: They have responded very quickly.
Speaker 6: Remember and the twelve day Iran Israel war, it took
Speaker 6: them a couple of days to calibrate their response. This
Speaker 6: time they were ready to go, and they have targeted
Speaker 6: multiple countries. I will tell you, I'm sitting here in
Speaker 6: Dubai and fifteen minutes ago I heard a couple of
Speaker 6: blasts and it seems as so they're not sparing any
Speaker 6: Gulf state in so far as the US has assets
Speaker 6: in those countries. So we're talking about the UAE, We're
Speaker 6: talking about Kuttar Bahrain, Jordan, Kuwait, Iraq. All of these
Speaker 6: countries are involved, so it.
Speaker 4: Has become a regional war.
Speaker 6: And what we know from authorities in all of these
Speaker 6: countries is that most of the missiles and drones have
Speaker 6: been intercepted, so there don't appear to be any civilian
Speaker 6: casualties from the strikes themselves. There has been one casualty
Speaker 6: in Abu Dabian Bako shrapnel, But that is the bigger
Speaker 6: issue here because a short while ago it was reported
Speaker 6: that the Foreign Minister Abbasa actually actually didn't make a
Speaker 6: call to his counterparts in all those countries and warned
Speaker 6: them about them allowing the US to use their basis
Speaker 6: to launch further strikes on Iran. So this would suggest
Speaker 6: that Iran are intent on retaliating. Now when it comes
Speaker 6: to the demonstrators, I mean you have to rewind back
Speaker 6: a month ago. There was and uprising, but it was
Speaker 6: brutally put down and there are unofficial numbers that have
Speaker 6: come through. We don't know the exact death death toll,
Speaker 6: but the number is put forward by human rights agencies
Speaker 6: suggest that thirty thousand people, more than thirty thousand people
Speaker 6: were killed in these demonstrations. So there is a wariness,
Speaker 6: i think in Tehran amongst the population and a real
Speaker 6: question as to what exactly the US's assistance actually looks
Speaker 6: like and whether the focus here is to target once
Speaker 6: again military infrastructure, perhaps key individuals within the Iranian regime,
Speaker 6: but in terms of actual support on the ground, what
Speaker 6: does that look like? Because once again the stakes are
Speaker 6: very high. And this is an Iranian regime we spoke
Speaker 6: about in the prior hour that is very intense on
Speaker 6: its own survival. It's an existential threat to them and
Speaker 6: they will not go down easily.
Speaker 4: And I run in xpacts I've spoken to recently in
Speaker 4: the US who despise this regime with every fiber of
Speaker 4: their being. Still have family in Tehran. I talked to
Speaker 4: a woman who said her family she hadn't spoken to
Speaker 4: them in days during the last round of strikes because
Speaker 4: they had gone to the mountains to try to hide
Speaker 4: from these air assaults. So these are the people the
Speaker 4: Trump administration is trying to appeal to, But at the
Speaker 4: same time, these are the people who are being put
Speaker 4: in harm's way, as well as our colleagues and friends
Speaker 4: and other people throughout the region. Dan, I understand you
Speaker 4: are now outside and say, I hope you've emerged from
Speaker 4: a shelter. I'm wondering if you're hearing any more from
Speaker 4: the Israeli government. This morning, I reached out to the
Speaker 4: embassy here and they said they're not speaking yet. I'm
Speaker 4: wondering if you're hearing anything on your side of the world.
Speaker 7: As of now, No, there have been procedural updates, for example,
Speaker 7: from the Transportation Minister about conditions at Israel's airports. The
Speaker 7: Israeli airspaces closed, as are the airspaces of other relevant
Speaker 7: countries in the region that obviously will affect air traffic,
Speaker 7: travel and the like.
Speaker 3: They've also been called to.
Speaker 7: Shelters very regularly, usually divvied up by sector, by city,
Speaker 7: by community, by part of the country. These readies have
Speaker 7: been weathered two such missile attacks going back all the
Speaker 7: way to nineteen ninety one the Gulf War, and over
Speaker 7: those three and a half decades have been developing a
Speaker 7: very sophisticated system that really homes down to the areas
Speaker 7: likely to be affected by any specific launch. So basically,
Speaker 7: if you are in the line of fire where you
Speaker 7: happen to live, or potentially in the line of five
Speaker 7: for debris that could emerge for an interception of a
Speaker 7: missile above way, you are a missile intended for another
Speaker 7: part of the country, you'll receive a timely warning to
Speaker 7: go down to shelters. That's happened already a half dozen
Speaker 7: times since this really blew up at just past eight
Speaker 7: am this morning, just past ten in the Gulf and
Speaker 7: we've been seeing that repeatedly. I think part of the
Speaker 7: reason the Iranians have succeeded, apparently in scoring strikes in
Speaker 7: those golf targets, as Jumana alluded to, is it comes
Speaker 7: down as much to range as anything else. Israel is
Speaker 7: well over a thousand and kilometers away. Those golf targets
Speaker 7: are in some cases just a few hundred kil klometers
Speaker 7: away from the Iranian launch points. That means there's far
Speaker 7: less time to prepare for those incoming missiles to intercept them,
Speaker 7: to mount an interception. Obviously, when you're across the region
Speaker 7: as Israel is, and Israel has a very sophisticated defense
Speaker 7: of race system, then it's easy to track those missiles
Speaker 7: and see them coming. I expect after Prime Minister is
Speaker 7: and now put out that recorded message very close to
Speaker 7: President Trump's message. In fact, the content tracking almost exactly
Speaker 7: with what Trump said.
Speaker 3: These Raeli's also calling on.
Speaker 7: The Iranian people, Iranian people of all communities and sectors
Speaker 7: to rise up and take hold of their destiny. Now
Speaker 7: that the Iranian government is apparently receiving a drubbing at
Speaker 7: the hands of the combined US and Israeli forces, we
Speaker 7: won't hear back from him until I think nightfall when
Speaker 7: the Jewish Sabbath ends here in Israel.
Speaker 4: That's a really good point, Dan. I mean in June,
Speaker 4: during that twelve day back and forth, we did watch
Speaker 4: the Iron Dome very successfully intercept most of those minisions.
Speaker 4: There were a few they got through, but for the
Speaker 4: most part, what you were seeing watching those screens was
Speaker 4: actually the interceptors going out and taking on those Aaran
Speaker 4: clearly knew this was a possibility and recalculated what they
Speaker 4: would strike and one.
Speaker 2: Matthew, let me stick with this theme of surprise, and
Speaker 2: I know that you were listening as I was to
Speaker 2: Courtney Supermanian who's with the White House pool at mar
Speaker 2: A Lago, noting that she was as surprise as all
Speaker 2: of us by the presentation of that statement. Early in
Speaker 2: the morning. She saw it pop up online as we
Speaker 2: all did. I'm curious about lawmakers and how surprised they were.
Speaker 2: I saw reporting earlier this morning from The New York
Speaker 2: Times that Jack Read's communications director, Jack Read, of course,
Speaker 2: the ranking member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, was
Speaker 2: given no advanced notice of this. One wonders about the
Speaker 2: so called Gang of Eight, the leadership from the House
Speaker 2: and the Senate, the leading members of the select intelligence committees,
Speaker 2: as well any indication if they were given any heads
Speaker 2: up here.
Speaker 8: This was actually just have learned at a Bloomberg News
Speaker 8: that the Gang of Eight did get a heads up
Speaker 8: on this, which did not happen for instance, when the
Speaker 8: US went into Venezuela to captured Nicholas Mduro, and there
Speaker 8: was a bit of outrage when Marco Rubio, at the
Speaker 8: time the Secretary of State, suggested that they couldn't trust
Speaker 8: members of Congress to not leak that information, and the
Speaker 8: Gang of Eight is quite well known for not doing that.
Speaker 8: These are the two party leaders in each chamber, and
Speaker 8: leader and ranking member of both intel committees. That would
Speaker 8: include Mark Warner, who is out with the statement this
Speaker 8: morning demanding a war powers vote. And it gets back
Speaker 8: to this idea of a prolonged engagement, which the President
Speaker 8: is clearly telegraphing. The Speaker of the House was also briefed,
Speaker 8: we understand, and I suspect that that came from the
Speaker 8: same place. Whether there's going to be a classified briefing
Speaker 8: for all members now will be the next question, And
Speaker 8: I suspect in the days ahead they'll be demanding that.
Speaker 4: And Jeff correct my memory, but I think that's a
Speaker 4: departure from when the US struck arounds nuclear facilities earlier
Speaker 4: in last year in the summer, because I remember hearing
Speaker 4: a lot of griping from Congress that members hadn't been notified.
Speaker 4: Maybe some Republicans had, but I don't think the full
Speaker 4: G eight was notified.
Speaker 3: No, I think your memory is right on that.
Speaker 9: And just to sort of take a broader look or standback,
Speaker 9: look at that. You heard the president use the language
Speaker 9: and use the word war. Well, Congress has the right
Speaker 9: to declare war. And that could be another major tension
Speaker 9: point politically in Washington. The fact that the president, though
Speaker 9: some lawmakers may have been given a heads up, he
Speaker 9: didn't go and ask permission.
Speaker 3: He didn't ask Congress to get behind this.
Speaker 9: He went ahead and did it. This is another example
Speaker 9: I think that some critics would say of the Congress,
Speaker 9: which of course is controlled by Republicans, giving up powers
Speaker 9: that the Constitution gives them to the executive. That's been
Speaker 9: true with tariffs as well. This, of course on a
Speaker 9: major foreign policy level, and debate.
Speaker 4: About the Warpowers Act is not exclusive to this president.
Speaker 4: This was an issue for Democratic presidents, it's an issue
Speaker 4: for Republican This has been as long as we've covered Washington,
Speaker 4: this has been something Congress has complained about. But to me,
Speaker 4: the fact that usually when you hear presidents announce strikes
Speaker 4: like this, they dance around this specifically so they don't
Speaker 4: come into direct conduct. What does it tell you about
Speaker 4: the power dynamic between Congress and this White House that
Speaker 4: the President is outright saying this is a war, It
Speaker 4: could be protracted, and there could be American case.
Speaker 9: I think it's just another example of the strengthening of
Speaker 9: the executive that has happened under President Trump's second term.
Speaker 9: I mean, he has claimed powers in many times, many
Speaker 9: ways that are not his. He has used executive orders
Speaker 9: to govern more so than legislation, which is not to
Speaker 9: downplay the legislation, the legislative victories that he also had
Speaker 9: in terms of tax cuts, and that has been attention
Speaker 9: point in Washington. It's been attention point with certainly with Democrats.
Speaker 9: The question is whether Democrat Republicans, rather as Joe was
Speaker 9: referencing earlier, are going to rise up against that as well.
Speaker 3: Certainly I can guarantee you if.
Speaker 9: This were a Democratic president in office, they would not
Speaker 9: be standing for this.
Speaker 3: But that has been a.
Speaker 9: Hallmark character that has been a hallmark of the Republican
Speaker 9: response to President Trump's second term is that they don't
Speaker 9: stand up. So will this be a line that they
Speaker 9: feel he's crossed?
Speaker 2: TVD Jamani, you heard Dan talking about the alignment in
Speaker 2: those statements between Prime Minister and net Nyahu and President Trump.
Speaker 2: I want to ask you about how effectively golf leaders
Speaker 2: have been able to make their case to President Trump
Speaker 2: in the run up to all of this. We saw
Speaker 2: that inaugural meeting of the Board of Peace in Washington,
Speaker 2: d C. Many golf leaders party to that, and we're
Speaker 2: present for that first meeting. I guess there is some
Speaker 2: inherent ineffectiveness here, but what is that level of communication,
Speaker 2: the quality of that communication like between golf leaders and
Speaker 2: the president right now?
Speaker 6: I mean, you've got to be thinking that, You've got
Speaker 6: to be thinking they're working on the channels. We just
Speaker 6: got a statement put out by the Saudi Arabian Pharmastry
Speaker 6: calling for an immediate de escalation, saying that they stand
Speaker 6: in unity with their golf allies in the region, the
Speaker 6: ones who had been targeted and for Golf states, look,
Speaker 6: this is of utmost priority. The escalation is of utmost priority.
Speaker 6: And I think you know, when it comes to the
Speaker 6: relationship with Iran, I wouldn't say that there's a huge
Speaker 6: amount of love lost between many of these Golf nations
Speaker 6: and the Iranian regime. But that being said, for them,
Speaker 6: what is more important in the region in the context
Speaker 6: of their own economic visions, because many of these countries
Speaker 6: are undergoing ECONO trans transformation, is political stability, and that
Speaker 6: has been a consistent theme. If you speak to the
Speaker 6: leaders in these various Gulf states, they will tell you
Speaker 6: that they don't want this crisis to spiral out of control.
Speaker 6: And viewers may recall that a couple of years ago,
Speaker 6: twenty twenty three, that was actually a mediation that was
Speaker 6: brokered by China between Saudi Arabia and Iran to sort
Speaker 6: of restore diplomatic relationships or both sides pledged non interference
Speaker 6: in each other's affairs, and that was a big step.
Speaker 3: It was a big mouthpone in.
Speaker 6: The region because you may also recall that in prior incidents,
Speaker 6: Saudi IRANQO facilities in Kai were also subject to retaliation
Speaker 6: from Iran. So this time around, they've been working very
Speaker 6: aggressively the last couple of years to ensure that those
Speaker 6: type of strikes don't happen again. And yet here we
Speaker 6: are on a daylight today where every single US based
Speaker 6: military base, or not every single but every single country
Speaker 6: that is ho staying at US base has been targeted
Speaker 6: with the Iranian retaliation. So they would be looking upon
Speaker 6: this with a lot of consternation concern about what happens next.
Speaker 6: Obviously pushing for a big de escalation here, working those
Speaker 6: diplomatic channels, but it's unlikely at this point that things
Speaker 6: can calm down or de escalate because the messaging that's
Speaker 6: come through, at least from the Israeli side, is that
Speaker 6: this is an operation that's going to go on for days,
Speaker 6: and as long as that happens, you would think that
Speaker 6: also the Gulf States and their assets, the US assets
Speaker 6: in the region will continue to be targets.
Speaker 4: I also want to update our audience. Coordney Supermann, in
Speaker 4: our White House correspondent in mar Lago with the President
Speaker 4: updates us and confirms that we are not expected to
Speaker 4: get further remarks from President Trump today. Dan, I want
Speaker 4: to go to you and ask about President Trump and
Speaker 4: the relationship between him and Benjamin Netanyahu. This has been
Speaker 4: two leaders who were very close and then had it
Speaker 4: been of a tiff, the romance seemed to be over,
Speaker 4: and then it has reignited in recent months. The Prime
Speaker 4: Minister was recently at the White House and sources were
Speaker 4: telling me Israel officials were coming out of that meeting.
Speaker 4: The word they used was giddy. Flashboard. A few weeks
Speaker 4: later and we have this joint strike on Iran. Talk
Speaker 4: to us about that relationship and how much influence you
Speaker 4: think then has over President Trump when it comes to
Speaker 4: taking action in Iran.
Speaker 3: I think he has a great deal of influence.
Speaker 7: Indeed, there was something of a falling out in between
Speaker 7: the two Trump administrations. Famously, Trump, then out of office
Speaker 7: in mar Lago, used the effort about Nita. I was
Speaker 7: unhappy about these radiister Prime Minister being so quick to
Speaker 7: recognize President Biden's election win. I think that's all well
Speaker 7: in the past. I didn't there's any dispute. I think
Speaker 7: President Trump would be the first to agree with this.
Speaker 7: This is a president who really enjoys success and ad
Speaker 7: Maya's success, and I think after the catastrophe of October seventh.
Speaker 7: The way these readly government and military were blindsided by
Speaker 7: that Hamas attack two and a half years ago. Ntanneo,
Speaker 7: veteran prime minister, the longest serving prime minister, with his
Speaker 7: eye firmly on his historical legacy and also the needs
Speaker 7: of the country in the given moment, put his mind
Speaker 7: not just to turning around the situation in Gaza, but
Speaker 7: effectively revolutionizing revolutionary bring about revolutionary.
Speaker 3: Change to the Middle East at large.
Speaker 7: Israel went on the offensive on several fronts against other
Speaker 7: Iranian allies. Hamas has enjoyed Iranian patronage for a very
Speaker 7: long time, as has Hizballah in Lebanon, Shiite groups in Iraq,
Speaker 7: certain groups in Syria until very recently, and then again
Speaker 7: the Huthis in Yemen are also aligned with Iran and
Speaker 7: now Israel with a healthy United States, it took taking
Speaker 7: on Iran directly. So I think what's clear here is
Speaker 7: that Trump has been persuaded. It may have been by
Speaker 7: other forces, may have been for his own reading of history.
Speaker 7: He'll be someone who will remember the Iran Crisis of
Speaker 7: nineteen seventy nine, the Iranian Revolution, when the US embassy
Speaker 7: was taken over and many of the staff held hostage
Speaker 7: for a long time.
Speaker 3: He will be aware of that.
Speaker 7: There are also US allegations that Iran has been behind
Speaker 7: assassination attempts or at least one against this president, who
Speaker 7: survived two assassination attempts, active assassination attempts in recent months.
Speaker 7: So it would appear a combination of the council of
Speaker 7: the Israeli Prime minister, prime minister he trusts to get
Speaker 7: the job done and potentially to give him a solid
Speaker 7: accounting of the realities of the Middle East and his
Speaker 7: own ideas about his historical place or US priorities in
Speaker 7: the Middle East, and how US interests might be served.
Speaker 3: By seeing a change of regime in Iran.
Speaker 7: It seems that they've coalesced in this day that we've seen,
Speaker 7: and also, as noted six months ago in June, they
Speaker 7: stressed this relationship with the United States joining the Israelis
Speaker 7: in what was then a surprise attack against Iran. The
Speaker 7: US joined in, and now they joined in at the
Speaker 7: outset with the US prepositioning planes in Israel, which.
Speaker 3: Itself is without precedence.
Speaker 7: So yes, there is a very tight relationship between these
Speaker 7: men that goes well beyond the rapul to what appears
Speaker 7: to be a common understanding of the Middle East.
Speaker 2: Joe, at a moment like this, one tends to look
Speaker 2: back on what happened in the preceding days. You were
Speaker 2: on Capitol Hill for the State of the Union, watching
Speaker 2: the president advisors come in. That's right, that seems that
Speaker 2: feels like a thousand years ago. General Kin was there.
Speaker 2: Of course, Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State as well.
Speaker 2: In fact, we were talking yesterday Christina and I. Marco Ruba,
Speaker 2: the Secretary of State, is still having a plan to
Speaker 2: go to Israel over.
Speaker 3: The course of weekend.
Speaker 4: It was announced yesterday. Yesterday.
Speaker 2: I wonder how you think about that show the run
Speaker 2: up to this. Again, I keep going back to this
Speaker 2: theme of surprise, but what you've observed sort of the
Speaker 2: apparatus surrounding all of this. Yes, we've heard from the President,
Speaker 2: but the degree to which he's been engaging with and
Speaker 2: we've heard from his advisors on national security, defense and diplomacy.
Speaker 8: Yeah, And of course at that point when we were
Speaker 8: in the Capital for State of the Union, the storyline
Speaker 8: was one of optimism that they were gearing up for
Speaker 8: talks on Thursday. President said ten to fifteen days. By
Speaker 8: the way, this is ten days on the spot. I'm
Speaker 8: not sure if you guys noticed that, which is kind
Speaker 8: of interesting, But you know, Marco Rubio, that's also very
Speaker 8: true and really no new insight into justification. It certainly
Speaker 8: wasn't amounting to what we heard in this video overnight.
Speaker 8: Of course, they clearly knew this, and he had a
Speaker 8: briefing by the Sentcom commander on Thursday A little did
Speaker 8: we know that was probably a briefing about how the
Speaker 8: attack was ready to go. Look, this is going to
Speaker 8: play differently with different members of the cabinet.
Speaker 3: You point out Marco.
Speaker 8: Rubio reminding everyone of the tension between Marco Rubio and JD.
Speaker 8: Vance as the potential air apparent of this president and
Speaker 8: of MAGA. This is going to be very difficult for jd.
Speaker 8: Vance to telegraph publicly. So he's going to have to
Speaker 8: support this obviously as a member of the administration, but
Speaker 8: to make this in America first, we need to do
Speaker 8: this now as a domestic issue for him, knowing that
Speaker 8: he wants to run in twenty eight it's going to
Speaker 8: be tough.
Speaker 3: Jeff.
Speaker 4: I want to play you a bit more sound from
Speaker 4: the President's remarks this morning. No apologize, we've heard the
Speaker 4: presence from Marx this morning, but I want to play
Speaker 4: you sound from the President speaking yesterday corpor Chrisky Texas
Speaker 4: because listening to what he said in the State of
Speaker 4: the Union, listening to the messaging up into this speech
Speaker 4: as we were all trying to read the tea leaves
Speaker 4: last night, when I heard this, I thought, uh oh,
Speaker 4: so let's play listen you can give you They don't.
Speaker 5: Want to quite go far enough and stupid. Look, we've
Speaker 5: been playing with him for forty seven years, and that's
Speaker 5: a long time. They've been blowing the legs off our people,
Speaker 5: blowing the face off our people. The arms, they've been
Speaker 5: knocking out chips one by one, and every month.
Speaker 3: Is something else. So you can't put up with it
Speaker 3: to long.
Speaker 5: We're not happy with the negotiation. They just don't want
Speaker 5: to They don't want to say the keywords we're not
Speaker 5: going to have a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 4: Was that the President tipping his hat there for people
Speaker 4: who were listening, and what are the ramifications for this?
Speaker 4: As we look at the bigger geopolitical strategy, I'm talking
Speaker 4: about potential conflicts like China, Taiwana. Head of the president's
Speaker 4: visit to China and then of course Russia and Ukraine.
Speaker 4: Does this impact that?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 9: So Number one, I think he probably was telegraphing it.
Speaker 9: And I think it's interesting as well, because this is
Speaker 9: a president who has made clear almost from day one
Speaker 9: that he's interested in getting the Nobel Peace Prize. And
Speaker 9: yet he's also a president who is very, very interested
Speaker 9: in using the forces that are available to him in
Speaker 9: terms of military power, and he's certainly done that now
Speaker 9: in Iran. On the broader geopolitical ramifications, I thought it
Speaker 9: was very interesting to hear earlier what Russia Russia's reaction
Speaker 9: to this. I'm sure some would call that very rich
Speaker 9: to have Russia saying that this is an unprovoked attack
Speaker 9: and not in line with an international norms, considering the
Speaker 9: fact that Russia of course invaded Ukraine.
Speaker 3: But that again that does have ramifications for this.
Speaker 9: How does that change this administration, the Trump administration's ability
Speaker 9: to form a piece deal there, which, of course President
Speaker 9: Trumps said he want you rightly said, the President is
Speaker 9: going to China in about a month. There's always this
Speaker 9: sort of threats or a concern of China potentially invading Taiwan.
Speaker 9: What kind of message does the United States strike on
Speaker 9: another country, in this case Iran, send to China in
Speaker 9: terms of whether that would be accepted or acceptable.
Speaker 2: Our colleague Tony helping it heads up our Russia coverage
Speaker 2: making a very good point in light of the statement
Speaker 2: that you just mentioned there. What the showcase is, in fact,
Speaker 2: is the reduced capacity of Russia and Vladimir Putin to
Speaker 2: defend its long standing allies in the Middle East. I
Speaker 2: wonder what you think about that. We have seen, certainly
Speaker 2: with Iran, the damage to a lot of its proxies
Speaker 2: in the region. And Russia for so long was a
Speaker 2: patron of a lot of these countries, Iran chief among
Speaker 2: them in supporting them against the prospect of this kind
Speaker 2: of aggression, and.
Speaker 4: We saw this in Syria. You know what was one
Speaker 4: of the big reasons that regime couldn't hold on is
Speaker 4: it just Russia didn't have the bandwidth to support that
Speaker 4: regime as much as they used to. Remember when I
Speaker 4: was there quite a few years ago, they were picture
Speaker 4: of the Iola of the RGC leaders all over that area,
Speaker 4: and you know that's not there anymore.
Speaker 8: So it really just reminds us of the disruption in
Speaker 8: the in world order that we've seen just in the
Speaker 8: president's first year. In this second term, there's a lot
Speaker 8: of overlap here, as you're pointing out, and to get
Speaker 8: back to what Jeff said, how this impacts a potential
Speaker 8: peace deal around Ukraine, the way that it may be
Speaker 8: informing the Chinese when it comes to Taiwan, or huge
Speaker 8: questions right now, we haven't even brought up Greenland since
Speaker 8: we came on the air this week.
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