1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal holl that for me. 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well, 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 2: I want to be happy. You want to be happy 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: for a day? Edo steak? 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: Is that? 6 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: Woo woom and them and tie. 7 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: College Football Week thirteen, Rivalry Week, Dan, Yeah, baby, Rivalry Week. 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 2: It is here. 9 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: It is the last week of the college football regular season. 10 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: It is the biggest week of the college football regular season. 11 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: Sir, how are you my man? I'm great, Ty, I'm great. 12 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 2: What's better than this? It's Thanksgiving Week. It's you're filling 13 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: your face up with food, You're filling your mind and 14 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: your heart up with college football. So I got to thinking, 15 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 2: it's easy to call it rivalry Week, but we can 16 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 2: name something better than just rivalry week. Week thirty at 17 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: old clubs. No, no, no, no, this is what I'm thinking. 18 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: There are enough situations across this great lands because we 19 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: have a bunch of undefeated teams more than usual, we 20 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: have a bunch of We have a cloud playoff picture 21 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,119 Speaker 2: because of the SEC, because of the Big Twelve, because 22 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: of the Pac twelve, because of the Big Ten. ACC 23 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: playoff picture is pretty clear, right if Florida State takes 24 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 2: care of business. They're still probably in decent enough shape, 25 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: especially if they can win by I don't know, double 26 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: digits or so. But here's the thing, Ty, those seminoles travel. 27 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: They're on the road. They're going to Gainesville, Alabama is 28 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 2: going to where are they going? They're going to Auburn, Alabama. 29 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: So to compete in the Iron Bowl. Oregon State's on 30 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 2: the road, Washington State's on the road. But you know what, 31 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 2: tie they have a chance to play spoiler and be like, oh, 32 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: call it spoiler Saturday. No, that's too easy, because what 33 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: these teams have the opportunity to do is they can 34 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: poison the well. And especially during a week in which 35 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: many people need to let that bird come to temperature, right, 36 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 2: you need to get that heat up to snuff. I'm saying, 37 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: there is potential here for a number of these teams 38 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: to be absolutely finished. So I went and I found 39 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 2: the King of Finish composing Jean Sibelius for Salmonelli's Saturday. No, 40 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 2: the Beavers can do it in their final Power Conference game. 41 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: People are listening to this on Thanksgiving, maybe on the 42 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: way to Thanksgiving. 43 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 2: One sixty five is the recommended temperature from the USDA, 44 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: though I believe bacteria dies around one forty, so you 45 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: can get away with the one fifties. But if not, 46 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: Salmonelli's coming for you on Saturday too. You might have 47 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 2: a stomach bug Friday. That could be the situation. There's 48 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: a lot of Sabellius, a lot of salmonellas Saturday. All right, 49 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 2: that's all I'm saying. 50 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: Ty Well, with that as the preamble, we hope we 51 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: didn't ruin too many Thanksgiving feasts. We hope you will 52 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: stick around for the rest of this year podcast because 53 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: we've got a bunch of games to get through. Of course, 54 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,839 Speaker 1: you know the drill, big dogs, you know the drill. 55 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: We're going through, quads shoah, we get to our picks. 56 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 2: Let's dance again, and time to help pick of the week. 57 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: So look, we're gonna go about this a little bit 58 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: differently today because we've got games on Thursday night, we've 59 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: got games, a bunch of games on Friday, and of 60 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: course all throughout the day on Saturday. The pick them 61 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: game that we play over at verballers dot com is 62 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: only for games Saturday and beyond. Yeah, that's it. 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We got 90 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: to get into this we do. Let's start with big 91 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: Dog number one. Oh, let's call this one what it is. 92 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: This is the climax of the college football season O 93 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: tie high noon Fox, Ohio State at eleven and zero 94 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 1: on the road at Michigan, also eleven and oh. The 95 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,799 Speaker 1: points bread is currently three and a half in favor 96 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: of the Michigan Wolverines. This isn't just another game, Dan, 97 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: This is the reason we're all here. This is the 98 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: reason we do this show, and it's the. 99 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 2: Reason why we're live streaming right here at solidverbal dot com, 100 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: Solid YouTube dot com, slash at Solid Verbal. That's all yeah, 101 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 2: we're gonna do a live watch along of this game. 102 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: All right. 103 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: This year, we've got the sign stealing controversy, which ads drama. 104 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: We've got coach Jim Harbaugh suspended, also adds drama, and 105 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: in light of all that it feels like it's sort 106 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: of a nour never season for Michigan and a real 107 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: turning point going into this new world order of twenty 108 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: twenty four and beyond. Because if you're a Michigan if 109 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: you're a Michigan fan, you're a Michigan player, you might 110 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: be looking at the atmosphericx here thinking, damn, we got 111 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: to win it now, don't we Because if not, the 112 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 1: White Knight of the NCAA is going to ride in 113 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: on the horse and set the whole thing on fire. 114 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: So that is your backdrop, Dan, that is your backdrop. 115 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: Other important context is that Michigan has dominated on the 116 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: ground the last two times these teams have played. Last 117 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: year it was forty five to twenty three, but close. 118 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: It was a closer game before Donovan Edwards broke off 119 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: two long touchdown runs. The year prior was a forty 120 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: two to twenty seven win. That was the game that 121 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: featured five touchdowns from Hassan Haskins. So, if nothing more, 122 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: what we know going into this game is that in 123 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: the previous two matchups, Michigan has proven it can win 124 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: with the power football Against the Buckeyes, where are you at? 125 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: I'm taking Michigan, and here's why. It's in ann Arbor 126 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 2: and Ohio State has not been especially slicy and dicey 127 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 2: on the road this year. You can argue they haven't 128 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 2: been especially slicy or dicey anywhere unless it's a Marvin 129 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 2: Harrison crossing route or something like that. I don't love 130 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 2: taking Michigan here. They're beat up along the defensive line, 131 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 2: which is the that's the centerpiece of everything, that's the 132 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: centerpiece of the Michigan Thanksgiving table. Ladarius Henderson has been 133 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: beat up starting left tackle JJ McCarthy. I don't think 134 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: Schrolmore has trusted him fully. He hasn't thrown a touchdown 135 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 2: pass and won a month plus since October twenty first, 136 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 2: in a minute, there's a lot to love about the 137 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 2: first nine or so weeks about Michigan season, and I 138 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 2: think a little bit to be to be concerned about 139 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 2: in terms of how complete Michigan's offense can be against 140 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 2: a very good, stifling Ohio State defense. And that's downfield 141 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 2: where they did succeed, especially in that second half last season. 142 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 2: The thing that I come back to with picking this 143 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 2: game is the fact that it's in ann Arbor and 144 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 2: there is something quick sandy about Ryan Day losing two 145 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 2: in a row and now entering this game with a 146 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 2: quarterback situation, with a first half on the road situation 147 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 2: that hasn't been great. That it's it's hard for me 148 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 2: to see Ohio State getting their offensive line issues and 149 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 2: protecting Kyle McCord worked out against this front. I love 150 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 2: that Ohio State has been able to run the ball 151 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: better recently with Travon Henderson's health getting to a much 152 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 2: better point. I think the winder Wonder factor clearly favors 153 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 2: the Buckeyes with having a transformative receiver in Marvin Harrison 154 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: Junior and to a lesser extent a Meccha Abuka. But 155 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 2: I think the way Michigan plays on both sides of 156 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 2: the ball, these corners against this passing attack at home, 157 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 2: with the fervor that's going to be in the big house. 158 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: Climax continue. 159 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 2: You use climax before, ty, Yeah, eruption, Yeah. I think 160 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 2: there is something about Michigan here that I think will 161 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 2: continue to give them the emotional edge. Now they haven't 162 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 2: run the ball. You mentioned how successful they were last 163 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 2: year and running the ball, and eventually they broke down 164 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 2: Ohio State on the ground. I think they're going to 165 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 2: struggle this game. Against Ohio State on the ground, they 166 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 2: eventually succeeded somewhat, and they hammered it over and over 167 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: and over again against Penn State. I think it's gonna 168 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 2: be different. I think it's going there is going to 169 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 2: be a JJ McCarthy play that opens this up in 170 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 2: the second half, maybe much to the reluctance thrown more 171 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 2: offensive line coach, offensive coordinator, acting head coach in this game. 172 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 2: I think it's necessarily. I think it's necessary. I think 173 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 2: it's needed. And if I'm going to give an edge here, 174 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 2: it's the home team with a good but probably not 175 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 2: great quarterback, with emotion on their side, with the speed 176 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 2: on defense on their side, and this being the first 177 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 2: big outing for Kyle McCord on the road against a 178 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 2: team of this caliber. All due respect to Notre Dame, 179 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 2: to you of this. 180 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 1: Caliber, Mersch the fighting Irish. 181 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 2: They brought almost eleven guys to that defensive stand attempt. 182 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 2: Almost Notre Dame is better on defense than they were then. 183 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 2: But I think I'm still skeptical. It was what a 184 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: slow start against Rutgers on the road, a slow start 185 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 2: against Wisconsin on the road like this just isn't a 186 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 2: team that feels feels like but they're built to take 187 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 2: on all comers no matter the location. Where I have 188 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 2: slightly more confidence in Michigan at home. So that's where 189 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 2: I'm at. 190 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: It's not like Michigan has been a fast starter, went 191 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: down to Rutgers early, but Michigan has had moments in 192 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 1: the early parts of their games where they've struggled to 193 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: kind of get in. Look, I don't hold that against them. 194 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: I don't hold it against Ohio State. I've been high 195 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: on Michigan this whole time, I know, But isn't. 196 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 2: The Ohio State intention on offense to be much more 197 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 2: lethal and downfield and using speed. 198 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: That's so we think it's supposed to be. It hasn't 199 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: really been that they've. 200 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 2: Been tempted that they just don't have the offensive line 201 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 2: or quarterback play all the time to do it. 202 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: It's been much more defense focused on the Ohio State side, 203 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: and that's just been different. I don't know if it's 204 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: better or worse. It's been different than what we've been 205 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: used to. But let me come back to this. 206 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 2: I've been high on. 207 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: Michigan this whole damn time. I know the week schedule, 208 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: all of it. I picked them to win the title. 209 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily backing off that in light of everything 210 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: we've seen. 211 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 2: Why would you. They're undefeated, right, you have no reason too. 212 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 2: We'll see. 213 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: But let me address the elephant in the room here, okay, 214 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: because it's impossible to ignore the offense. The last two 215 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,359 Speaker 1: weeks has looked very conservative. 216 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And I was talking with our fran Andy 217 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 2: Staples on his show, and he mentioned maybe a lack 218 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 2: of confidence in the passing game and protecting JJ McCarthy 219 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 2: with some of the injuries up front, and that changing 220 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: the strategy about being more aggressive downfield, which to me 221 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 2: I still am not buying. But continue. 222 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: I mean, they essentially ran Penn State's offense in that 223 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: game against Penn State. Yeah, and they won because they 224 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: had better players and a better line. And it very 225 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: much looked that they were playing not to lose, which 226 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: is not necessarily going to instill confidence going into a 227 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: big game like this. 228 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 2: But this is a story. 229 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,599 Speaker 1: In last week too, on the road to Maryland, it 230 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: just looked like they were playing not to lose. As 231 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: you said when you and I told you back and forth, 232 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: it looked like an offensive line coach was calling the 233 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: offense because it is. 234 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 2: Well, not just calling the offense, but calling the game, 235 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 2: being in charge of the game, and big high leverage decisions, 236 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 2: you know, third down midfield, fourth down midfield, better punt. Right. 237 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: This is all to say that's still maybe good enough 238 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: to beat Ohio State. This version of the buck Eyes, 239 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: as I think you are kind of gently eluding, is 240 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: not as good as either of the two Buckeyes teams 241 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: that we saw from the previous two seasons, but they 242 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: are far more battle tested than Michigan at this point. 243 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: And if Michigan has proven it can run on Ohio 244 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: State the last two years, Ohio State's also proven it 245 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: can throw in Michigan. Now it's not CJ. Stroud, it's 246 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: Kyle McCord. But I think Kyle McCord's going to have 247 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: a game. I think he's going to have a good 248 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: game through the air. I think he's going to feed 249 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: the monsters out wide, and I'm not sure that Michigan 250 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: has what it takes to be able to stop that. 251 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: They can stop it to an extent, but you're not 252 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: going to completely cut it off. I am not putting 253 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: any money on this game. I wouldn't. I want to 254 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 1: watch it. I want to enjoy it with you as 255 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: part of the live watch on that we're going to do. 256 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 2: This is a. 257 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: Super close game in the biggest, biggest rivalry of this 258 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: beautiful sport. Michigan wins twenty six to twenty four Ohio State. 259 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 2: I was gonna you know, my specific question was going 260 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 2: to be, can a team get to twenty seven points? No, 261 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 2: I don't think so either. I have a twenty three 262 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 2: to seventeen Michigan I could see, so they're covering in 263 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 2: this game. Here's Is there any like specific scenario that 264 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 2: you feel like is going to decide this game? I 265 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 2: have one go for it. I think it's Ohio State 266 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 2: in the red zone, and they've been able to run 267 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 2: it better. If you can't run it, you cannot execute 268 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 2: in the red zone consistently against good teams. So they've 269 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 2: been able to run it better, which is encouraging. But 270 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 2: their numbers in the red zone and Michigan's defense in 271 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 2: the red zone, it's the advantage right now. Michigan has 272 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 2: that advantage their defense in the red zone against Ohio 273 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 2: State's offense in the red zone. That to me is 274 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 2: going to say everything. And also, if Michigan can force 275 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 2: third and longs against this is my bonus against Colm 276 00:13:58,400 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 2: McCord in the offense. I think they can be in 277 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 2: a very very good place. And it's going to just 278 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: the matchup of whichever corner gets Marvin Harrison Junior, whether 279 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 2: it's Will Johnson or Mike Sammers. Still, it's going to 280 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 2: be incredible. I cannot wait to watch that isolated game reveal. 281 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: I think the matchup truly. I don't think we need 282 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: to overthink it if we want to ride the underthink 283 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: express here. Can Ohio State not get destroyed on the 284 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: ground by Michigan the way they had the last two years? 285 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 2: Can they? Yeah, Michigan's rushing attack hasn't been where it's 286 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 2: been the last two years. It's still very very good. 287 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: But can they kind of avoid a similar trap? 288 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 2: Right? 289 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: Can they avoid that? Because the game for the most 290 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: part was close each of the last two years. It 291 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: was a late touchdown from Hassan Haskins touchdown number five 292 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: that beat him two years ago, and last year the 293 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: game was close until a seventy five yard runner in 294 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: an eighty five yard run by Donovan Edwards. 295 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 2: So they're right there with them. 296 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: It's not like they're getting blown out. But the offense 297 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: on the Michigan side has been able to assert its 298 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: will with the running game, and if Ohio State can 299 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: do anything to prevent against that and make it a 300 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: little bit of a different game, maybe one that's more 301 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: relying on JJ McCarthy, I just change the dynamic a 302 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: little bit. I don't know. 303 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 2: I think it's close. I'm not betting money. I want 304 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 2: to enjoy it is. Who's the better quarterback in this game? 305 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 2: Throwing into two excellent defense? 306 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: I still trust JJ McCarthy better, Okay I do. 307 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 2: He's been there. Yeah, he's been there. I think so too. 308 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: So we a disagree on this one, Yeah, we. 309 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 2: Sort of disagree. What was your final score again? Twenty six? 310 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: Twenty six, twenty four, So they don't cover no. Ohio 311 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: State plus three and a half. 312 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 2: Ohio State plus three and a half. I'm goll on 313 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 2: Michigan minus. 314 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: Okaykay, let's go next big dog here, let's do it. 315 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: We got a bunch this week. They called us one 316 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: the Apple Cup. Dan, It's a big game, big game, 317 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: four pm. 318 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 2: Fox. 319 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: It is Washington State at five and six on the 320 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: road at Washington at eleven and oh they are a 321 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: sixteen and one half point favorite. Is this a scenario 322 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: which we throw the records out? No, we don't throw 323 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: them out here. 324 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 2: Now. Washington State's record is what it is for a 325 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 2: reason that said I'm taking the Koogs to cover. 326 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: Okay, let me ask you this. I'm glad you went 327 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: there with it first. Okay, points fright is sixteen and 328 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: a half. 329 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 2: It's many points. It's a lot of points. 330 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: If we replaced Washington State with another team of a 331 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: similar profile, Let's say I don't know UCF all right, 332 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: you wouldn't bat an eye it at sixteen and a half. 333 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 2: I might actually if you give me that specific example, 334 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 2: u CF, I'm just throwing it. 335 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: I'm picking a team out of a hat that's similarly 336 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: profiled in like esp. 337 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 2: Plus similar defensive issues. But I think. 338 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: This isn't just another week. I think this isn't just 339 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: another Apple Cup. They did announce they're going to play 340 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: this one for at least the next five years, which 341 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: is good. 342 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 2: But this is the last one with Washington State sharing 343 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: a conference. That's right. 344 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:01,239 Speaker 1: There is baggage this year in this game. There is baggage. 345 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: Washington is leaving Wazoo for dead and they're. 346 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 2: Joining the Big Ten. 347 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: You have to believe that Wazu has had this game 348 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: circled since August or whenever the hell it was that 349 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: Washington announced this move. You have to believe it. Think 350 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: of the state of play. We're going to talk about 351 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: the Oregon Oregon State game next. 352 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 2: Think of where these teams. 353 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: Are at now. 354 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 2: It is literally going to be a. 355 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: Pac two, a Pac two, Yeah, next year, super Pac, 356 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: super Pac. Thank you? So, Like, I cannot not consider. 357 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 2: That as the emotion the Okay, I can't. I just 358 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 2: have to. 359 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: It's rivalry week. So you're taking Wazo. Why are you 360 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: taking Wazoo? 361 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm taking Wazoo because I feel as if, well, 362 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 2: first of all, Washington doesn't beat teams by sixteen seventeen points, right. 363 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: They have beaten exactly one team by more than thirteen points, 364 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: and that was the cow Golden Bears, I should say, 365 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: the last eight weeks. 366 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 2: One PAC twelve team in the last year. 367 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, over the last eight weeks, they've beaten exactly one 368 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: team by more than thirteen points, and that was Cal 369 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: Since then, they've won by seven, three, eight, nine, ten, seven. 370 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 1: In last week, only two. 371 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, their defense, they're more a grower than shower right 372 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 2: their fourth quarter defense. I saw some stat they I mean, 373 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 2: they allowed a touchdown to Oregon, but they've shut out 374 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 2: a bunch of these teams in the fourth quarter. So 375 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 2: for as flawed as Washington's defense is, especially on the ground, 376 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 2: especially with the pass rush not getting home like expectations 377 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 2: would have had you believe in August, this defense does 378 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 2: grow over the course of the game. We saw them 379 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 2: get the stops that they got against Oregon States. Say 380 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 2: whatever you will about Dju through the air, they got 381 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 2: the stops. And Washington State specifically, this is a kitchen 382 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 2: sink moment, not just game. It's a kitchen sink moment, 383 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 2: and so they're built around a sort of dink and 384 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 2: dunk philosophy. On offense, I'd love for them to run 385 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 2: cam Ward a lot in the first half. The name 386 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 2: of the game for Washington State will be fine shot 387 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 2: opportunities downfield, especially Josh Kelly, run cam Ward some generate 388 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 2: third in shorts. Washington has a lot of trouble getting 389 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 2: off the field on third down, and they're especially not 390 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 2: good at forcing three and outs. Wazoo needs to be 391 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,239 Speaker 2: creative and even as things fall apart for them as 392 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 2: a program with expectations of being a power conference program. Rightfully, so, 393 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 2: I think this opportunity against Washington, coming off of an 394 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 2: emotional win, a twenty two to twenty win, thanks in 395 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 2: part to a safety safety was the difference. And it's 396 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 2: a which game? Which day? Is this game being played 397 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 2: Friday or Saturday? It's games on Saturday, it's games on Saturday. 398 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 2: I just I think there will be something about Wazoo here. 399 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 2: And the general sentiment abound Washington right now I'm seeing 400 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 2: is like, well twelve and oh they shouldn't even have 401 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 2: to play in the PAC twelve championship game. What more 402 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 2: do they have to prove? They're just they're counting this 403 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 2: as a win. I don't know. I think there's a 404 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 2: cocktail involved, there's an elixir. I think Washington's better. They 405 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 2: have the better quarterback, they have the better team, they 406 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 2: have the better resume, They're going to win this game. 407 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 2: They don't distance themselves from teams, they don't take care 408 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 2: of business in the way that playoff team should. I 409 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 2: have Washington winning this game thirty seven thirty one. 410 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: I feel Goofy's saying this because Washington's unbeaten and now 411 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: a playoff team per the latest college football playoff rankings. Yeah, 412 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: but I come back to what we mentioned a minute ago. 413 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: What has Washington done over the last eight weeks of 414 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: the season to earn a sixteen and a half point spread, right, 415 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: exactly nothing. This is clearly a good team with a 416 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: dynamic offense. But a week after a sloppy rain game, 417 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: in a week before a monster rematch that they may 418 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: be looking ahead to with Oregon in Vegas, I don't know. 419 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 2: No, they'll know by kickoff, right, because by kickoff they 420 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 2: will know Oregon Oregon State is Friday evening. 421 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, they'll know by kickoff. But keep in mind Wazoo 422 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: needs this to get both eligible. Keep in mind again 423 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: this is the far biggest game on their schedule. This 424 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: is a de facto national championship scenario on the road. 425 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: On the road, but that's a lot of points. Wazoo 426 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: is going to move the ball in Washington, And for me, 427 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: it comes down to efficiency, all right. If Wazoo gets 428 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: twelve drives in this game, on how many of those 429 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: do they need to score points on? How many? Because 430 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: this is not a particularly explosive team. I know you 431 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: said you'd like to see him go down the field. 432 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 2: They brought dunk. Yeah, they brought over Ben Arbuncle. 433 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: This is very much a dunkin donuts offense that we've 434 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: seen so far this season. They've pretty much gone full 435 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 1: air raid with Ben Arbuckle. But it's a situation where 436 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: they're really not running the ball that well. Cam Ward 437 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: is the team's leading rusher. 438 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 2: You want they actually do run. They run. They don't 439 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 2: run well in the first half. But when they actually 440 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 2: do run and have design situations like, they're not bad. 441 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: They just need to do more of it, I think, 442 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: to have some sort of balance and to not make it. 443 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 2: A one of the worst first half rushing teams in America. 444 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, they need like five or six touchdowns to win 445 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: a game like this, and I don't know if they're 446 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:11,719 Speaker 1: going to do that against Washington, not without any chunk plays. 447 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: You need the chunk plays and need to prove that 448 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: you can get those chunk plays. Maybe they'll get them 449 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: in the biggest moment this season. But I think they 450 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 1: can score yeah, and I think they can absolutely cover 451 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: sixteen and a half points. I think there's a ton 452 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: of offense in this game Washington hung seven hundred yards 453 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: and fifty one points on him a year ago. That 454 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: was a team of a much better defense. Washington wins 455 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 1: this game. 456 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 2: Dan. 457 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: However, if two is a coincidence and three is a trend, 458 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: what do we call eight straight games of not being 459 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: able to separate? 460 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 2: What do we call how many straight years? I don't 461 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 2: think no team has ever run the table and gone 462 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 2: nine to zero in the Pac twelve? Right? 463 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: No? No, I know a Husky stadium. I know Wazuo 464 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 1: is zero and four on the road, including losses at 465 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: Arizona State and Cow Which is ick? I want those 466 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 1: points in a rivalry. This has the makings of one 467 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: of those games where Wazoo is chasing late, they decide 468 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: to go for two to get at to seven or eight, 469 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: and they fail and they lose by nine fifty two 470 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: forty three. 471 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 2: Fifty two forty three. Wow, an extra day of rest 472 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 2: in practice? Right, Wazoo played Colorado sliced and diced them 473 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 2: a lot of points on Friday night. 474 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: So a lot of points, A lot of points. 475 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 2: It's a lot of points. 476 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: Let's let's travel back in time, Dan, Let's go to 477 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: the Platypus Cup. We call it the Platypus Cup. Maybe 478 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: still call it the Civil War. They play for the 479 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: Platypush Trophy of some sort. Yeah, yes, kind of a 480 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: combo between a duck and a and a beaver. 481 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 2: Yes, of course. 482 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: Oregon State at eight and three on the road at 483 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: Oregon ten and one, Oregon favored by thirteen and a 484 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: half points. This one's a Friday night or eight thirty 485 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: Eastern on Fox. There is a hidden matchup in this 486 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: game that we need to discuss. But before I get there, 487 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: let me play the game that I played with the 488 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: Apple Cup. If we swapped out Oregon State for Texas 489 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: A and M, if A and M were the thirteen 490 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: and a half point dog on the road in Austin Stadium. 491 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: I don't think you'd think twice about that line. I 492 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: don't think you would. I wouldn't. 493 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 2: But AM has a defense that in State can't match. Okay, 494 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 2: consider the baggage. Consider the baggage. You still want to 495 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 2: gloss over that point spread. Keep in mind Oregon also 496 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 2: left Oregon State for dead. They joined the Big Ten 497 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 2: after after. 498 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: Oregon State put the finishing touches on one hundred and 499 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: sixty two million dollars stadium renovation at Research Stadium. They 500 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: went in the hole to build the stadium up and 501 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: then everybody left. 502 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, they all left them. Yeah. 503 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: Is that the kind of university you want to associate 504 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: yourself with? Dan? 505 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 2: Uh? Sure, I don't know us by me. I've enjoyed 506 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 2: Resar Stadium by way, I've been a couple times. It's 507 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 2: a good time. Good potato salad, good. 508 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: Stadium, good potato sal Oregon State has had this game circled. 509 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: They almost peede in the punch for Washington a week ago. 510 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: Now they can nuke Oregon's playoff hopes with a win. 511 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 2: Totally Salmonella, not mine that bird. Those ducks better be 512 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 2: up to temp. 513 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: Get it to one hundred and sixty five degrees for 514 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: the us FDA is different. What is what is your 515 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 1: pick here? 516 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 2: I'm going Oregon pick how big? I think Oregon's gonna 517 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 2: win this game by three plus touchdowns? Yeah, And it's 518 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 2: not because I don't think Oregon State is decent, pretty good, whatever. 519 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 2: And they're certainly above the teams that Oregon has played 520 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 2: and made mincemeat out of recently. You know, they're a 521 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 2: more complete team than USC and certainly when you look 522 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 2: at Stanford and cal and just a number of these 523 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 2: teams are flawed. Arizona State last week, like it's just 524 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 2: Oregon State's on a different level. They're better, They're more dangerous, 525 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 2: They've got better quarterback play. Damian Martinez is one of 526 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 2: the absolute best backs in this conference, one of the 527 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,959 Speaker 2: handful best in the country. The way Oregon is ready 528 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 2: for these games and has been ready for these games 529 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 2: by and large this year, you know, playing the way 530 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:18,479 Speaker 2: that they did against Utah, I think Oregon State is 531 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 2: they're going to be ready for this game. But I 532 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 2: think there's just lingering dejection. Dejection award do we think 533 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 2: that's a word from last week against Washington? A very 534 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 2: winnable game at home against Washington. I think they pushed 535 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 2: all their emotional chips into that. And now you talk 536 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 2: about leaving for dead. How much long is Jonathan Smith 537 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 2: going to be the coach at Oregon State? And I 538 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 2: don't blame him. I think in a perfect world he'd 539 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 2: love to coach at Oregon State for a long time, 540 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 2: make a lot of money, take this team to a 541 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 2: lot of big Bowl games. But that's not the world 542 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 2: in which we live. That's lingering over the program now. 543 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 2: I think Oregon corners are going to smother Oregon State receivers. 544 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 2: I think DJ you has been off. This offensive line 545 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 2: for Oregon State has been beat up. There's only so 546 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 2: much energy in spirit you can muster with a backup 547 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 2: offensive line. There's only so much energy in spirit you 548 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 2: can muster. If your quarterback's throwing late, there's only so much. 549 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 2: If Oregon's defensive line is overwhelming your offensive line, there's 550 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 2: only so much you can muster. If Bucky Irving and 551 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 2: Jordan James are just making, you know, eight nine yards 552 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 2: of beaver patties every single stat. Ok So, I think 553 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 2: there are too many ways for Oregon to win this game, 554 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 2: and they're gonna be emphatic about this, especially because potentially 555 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 2: they could be in a conversation about the playoff with 556 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 2: a win here, with a great performance against Washington, and 557 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 2: they don't have a lot of resume chunks to display. 558 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 2: Oregon State would be a ranked resume chunk to display. 559 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 2: So winning this game forty five to thirteen is emphatic. 560 00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 2: My final score, I'm going to say forty five to seventeen, or. 561 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: Okay, I'll say this. The hidden matchup that concerns me 562 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: is Oregon State's rushing defense trying to stop Bucky Irvin 563 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 1: and Jordan James. He mentioned it and the Oregon rushing 564 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: attack just on the whole in terms of rushing yards 565 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 1: per game. If you go out online and look for it, 566 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: Oregon State's actually pretty good their eighteenth nationally. But to 567 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 1: quote the wise profit Rafiki, look hard. Who's Oregon State 568 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: played with a running attack that scares you? What teams 569 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: have they played that run at thirty five times? Well? 570 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 2: What do they do? Do they play cal Jade not? 571 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 2: He's a good back. 572 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they gave up a ton of yardage in 573 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: that game. That's sort of my point. I think if 574 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: you look deep down at the Oregon State rushing defense, 575 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna find it's not all that good. The numbers 576 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: make it look better than it is, but it's fools gold. Yeah, 577 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: and the Ducks are going to run for like two 578 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: point fifty and win going away. I'm gonna do for you, 579 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein because of lazy Yeah. 580 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 2: Block of the week all right, doesn't bother me. 581 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: I think Oregon's locked in, and I think this is 582 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: forty nine to twenty in favor of the Ducks. They 583 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: win big going away. 584 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 2: We agree makes good sense. 585 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: Final, Big dog Dan, let's the Florida Cup. Yeah, sure, 586 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: let's go back to Saturday, seven pm Eastern time. Yeah, 587 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: ESPN Florida State eleven and zero minus six and a 588 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: half on the road at Florida, Florida with a record 589 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: of five and six when I made our document. 590 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, this line has been all over, all over the place. 591 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: When I made our document, the line was Florida State 592 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: minus eleven and a half. It is now Florida State 593 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: minus six and a half. I hate the situation for 594 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: the knowles. I hate, hate, hate, hate the situation for 595 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: the knowles. Jordan Travis done for the year. Gruesome injury 596 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,719 Speaker 1: a week ago, still turns my stomach to think about it. 597 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: But they're on the road at night in the swamp. 598 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: Florida needs the wind to get Bowl eligible. Who knows, 599 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: Maybe Billy Napier's coaching for a job. I don't honestly 600 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: believe that. But the seat's getting warmer. Another thing to consider. 601 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: Cram Mertz is also out in this football game, broken 602 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: collar bone. They're starting red shirt freshman Max Brown. Certainly 603 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: will be no picnic for him going up against Florida State. 604 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: So you understand why the line is where it's at. 605 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: It's still I think a pretty good situation for the Gators. 606 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: But my question is whether the line has come down 607 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: too much. Sure, you know, we have focused so much 608 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: on Jordan Travis being out that we haven't talked at 609 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: all about Tate Rodamaker, who, by the way, came in 610 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: granted against Northern Alabama and look pretty decent. Yeah, he 611 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: has been with this program for three years. Dan, he 612 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: is not a newcomer. 613 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 2: And we'll now have a full week of being the 614 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 2: guy in practice getting all the reps there. He came 615 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 2: in relief last year when Jordan Travis went down against Louisville, 616 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 2: and so now he will have all the rep and 617 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 2: much more comfort than he's ever used to having. 618 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: Totally, and he was actually Mike Norvell's very first commit 619 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: when Norvell took the job at Florida State. He's been 620 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: there the whole time. So I think there is definitely 621 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: this notion out there that, oh, Jordan Travis is done. 622 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: They go to the song some guy the weird name. 623 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: We made fun I made fun of it a year ago. 624 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: What is a Tate Rotdamaker. 625 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. 626 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: Tate Rodamaker's been there, he knows the offense. He wasn't 627 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: a disaster, he won't be a disaster. So again I ask, 628 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: has the line come down too much? 629 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 2: I loved Florida at eleven, ten and a half whatever 630 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 2: it was before. It's a good question. I okay. So 631 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 2: the thing I love to look for in teams making 632 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 2: a year one to year two jump is generally pass 633 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 2: rush and the ability to stop big plays. You do that, 634 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 2: you can cover up for a number of roster flaws 635 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 2: or so and so so so performance is doing whatever. 636 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 2: Florida does not have a pass rush, They do not 637 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 2: stop big plays, and a lot lot of instances this 638 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 2: Florida defense just did not give a ton of effort. 639 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 2: You look at the end of that Arkansas game like 640 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 2: there's a lot to discount about Florida, and reasonably so. 641 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 2: Florida State, on the other hand, is a team that, 642 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 2: with Jordan Travis, didn't necessarily separate themselves from flawad teams 643 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 2: in the way that I would hope a playoff caliber 644 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 2: team would. And now they're taking a backup quarterback to 645 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 2: a very difficult place to play, Florida. I believe beat 646 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 2: Florida State with Dan Mullen, when after Dan Mullen was fired, 647 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 2: the interim situation, right, So, just generally speaking in the ether, 648 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 2: Florida can get up for this game, even as a 649 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 2: noticeable underdog. I can't in good conscious take Florida here. 650 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 2: I love the best of Florida running the ball. I 651 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 2: don't love Flora's offensive line against this Florida State front 652 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 2: that hounds quarterbacks. There really isn't a lot to like. 653 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 2: If you have to squint really violently to find any 654 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 2: Florida advantage here, you're strictly going off of vibes to 655 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 2: say I feel as if Florida can spoil Florida State 656 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 2: season just because it's in the swamp. Yeah, the point 657 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 2: if it were if I were getting a touchdown plus, 658 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 2: i'd feel better about it. I'm gonna give I hate it, 659 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 2: but I'm giving the points with a backup quarterback on 660 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 2: the road because it doesn't necessarily mean that he is 661 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 2: a bad quarterback, because most quarterbacks would back up a 662 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 2: quarterback like Jordan Travis. So I'm going to regretfully and 663 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 2: ashamedly give the points here. 664 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: Well, look, Florida's been very lumpy. You don't know what 665 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: Florida team are gonna get from week to week. They've 666 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: lost four in a row, but they went on the 667 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: road and they were tied a week ago with Miszoo 668 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: lost that game thirty three to thirty one something like that. Sure, 669 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: they're good enough to be in games, but as we've 670 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: seen over the last however many weeks now, they're just 671 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: not really good enough to win some of those games. 672 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: It's been a very up and down season for the Gators, 673 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: where the defense coming into the year was a big question. 674 00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: It hasn't really improved much. Graham Mertz, which was maybe 675 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: the biggest question of all, has actually been pretty good, 676 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: but it hasn't seemed to matter because the defense sucks. 677 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 2: They give they're the most explosive allowing defense in America, 678 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,399 Speaker 2: and they do not turn teams over as well at all. 679 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,280 Speaker 2: So there's not a lot to love about Florida's ability, 680 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 2: even with a not so good defense, to make plays. 681 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 1: This game is a hard pass for me on the 682 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: betting front. I would never put real money here. I 683 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 1: have no idea truly. Yeah, too many factors to consider. 684 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: My official pick is Florida State twenty eight twenty twenty eight, 685 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: twenty I think Tate Rodimaker is good enough to get 686 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: the job done. I think Florida State. Florida State has 687 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: gotten to this point this season, and they've done so 688 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: not solely because of Jeordan Travis. They've done so because, 689 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: over the course of the last couple of seasons, Mike 690 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: Norvelle has built up this roster. They are very, very 691 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: solid across the board, and they're good enough to beat 692 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,280 Speaker 1: Florida even on the road at night in the swamp. 693 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: Twenty eight twenty Yeah. 694 00:34:55,520 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 2: My final score, Yeah, thirty to seventeen. 695 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: Thirty seventeen. All right, ye, shall we get to our 696 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,919 Speaker 1: first quad of the long weekend again? 697 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 2: Let's do that. 698 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: Let's do it like the heart, the passionate, the love, 699 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 1: the commitment, and the energy you're willing to put into it. 700 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 2: Iron Ball Huh. 701 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: This one is spicier to me, really. Yes, here are 702 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,800 Speaker 1: the games in our afternoon squad. We've got Alabama Auburn 703 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:31,280 Speaker 1: the Iron Bowl, Auburn a fourteen and a half point 704 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 1: home dog. We've got the game for Paul Bunyan's acts. 705 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: We're focusing on these named games and named trophies. By 706 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: the way, in case you haven't discovered this yet, Wisconsin 707 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: minus two and a half on the road at Minnesota 708 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 1: three point thirty on FS one. We've got the Commonwealth 709 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: Cup between Virginia Tech and Virginia. That one's at three 710 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 1: thirty ACC Network Virginia Tech favored by two and a half. 711 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: We've also got the Territorial Cup three thirty ESPN Arizona 712 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 1: minus ten and a half on the road. ATSU. Yeah, 713 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 1: there are some other games here. Well, we'll go through 714 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: them very very quickly. There's also a Saturday afternoon Megaquad 715 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: that I need to call out please. 716 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 2: For the time being. 717 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: In terms of Power five rivalries, these are the ones 718 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 1: that I think drew the most attention. Why is the 719 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: arm bol spicy to you? 720 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 2: It's spicy to me because I don't believe teams are 721 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,760 Speaker 2: what they are at their lowest moment, which is where 722 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 2: Auburn was after losing to the Diego Pavia and New 723 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 2: Mexico State. I think they look past them. I think 724 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 2: it was a look ahead moment that a better version 725 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 2: of this Auburn team won't succumb to. But this is 726 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,280 Speaker 2: the reality in which we live right now. I think 727 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 2: it is especially easy for Alabama to look at last 728 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 2: week's result and let their guard down a little bit. 729 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 2: I think it's especially easy to think Jalen Milroe has 730 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 2: shed his early season struggles in throwing dumb, dumb interceptions. 731 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 2: I think it's especially easy to think after last week, 732 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 2: Auburn is just a team that loses to New Mexico 733 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 2: State and that's who they are every single week. And 734 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,959 Speaker 2: first of all, Jerry Kill has done an incredible job 735 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 2: in Las Cruzes. This is no slight at New Mexico 736 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 2: State should have beaten UMAs week one. But whatever, I 737 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 2: think Auburn covers this spread at home with a pass 738 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 2: rush in what will be a frenzied environment. And Alabama's 739 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 2: already clinched the West, so they're not Look, they're going 740 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 2: to be focused on the Iron Bow. It's the Iron Bowl, 741 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 2: but they're not seeing this as like a play in 742 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 2: game for the SEC Championship game. And I don't know, 743 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:34,800 Speaker 2: I just think it's going to be a weird game 744 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,320 Speaker 2: that Auburn can force a couple of mistakes from Jalen Molroe. 745 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 2: I don't love Peyton Thorn, but I'm not ready to 746 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,240 Speaker 2: officially assign Auburn as the team we saw last week. 747 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 2: And I am ready to say and Alabama hasn't always 748 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 2: run away from you. Clearly flawed average teams, which I 749 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 2: think Auburn is, especially on offense. So I have Alabama 750 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 2: winning this game, but not covering what's the number at 751 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 2: the present moment and a half fourteen and a half, 752 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 2: A couple touchdowns. No, I think I think Alabama wins 753 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 2: this game thirty one to twenty three. 754 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: Auburn's not a finished product. They're just not no. And 755 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 1: they weirdly hung with Georgia and Old Miss, but then 756 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 1: got annihilated and couldn't really score against LSU. Of course, 757 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: they lost by twenty one at home a week ago 758 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: to New Mexico State, a good New Mexico State team, 759 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 1: but still New Mexico State just very lumpy all over 760 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 1: the place Bama or for Auburn, which I think makes 761 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 1: this game against BAMA even harder to project. I don't 762 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: like that fourteen and a half number. I don't I 763 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: don't got Auburn winning this I don't think there's a 764 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,439 Speaker 1: chance in hell they win this game. But I think 765 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 1: it's something like thirty eight twenty four Alabama. Oh, so 766 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 1: they're barely not covering not covering half a point. The 767 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 1: hook the hook man. The hook scares me. If this 768 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,479 Speaker 1: tuck's under fourteen, I'd consider maybe a small play on Bama, 769 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: because I still think Bama's clearly the better team here. 770 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 1: But fourteen and a half, that little hook in a 771 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 1: rivalry on the ride that scares the hell out of me. 772 00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 1: So I'm on Auburn with you. 773 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 2: I am all right quickly. 774 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: Paul Bunyan's acts Wisconsin minus two and a half. I 775 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 1: don't know Paul Bunyan. We've never had him on the show. 776 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: I gotta believe this is the kind of football. What's 777 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: the ox, babe, the big blue big box. Yeah, who 778 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 1: wants a spoiler? I've got a spoil Who wants a spoiler? 779 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:18,839 Speaker 2: Salmonella Saturday? Spoil it up? 780 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: Minnesota stinks. Yeah, they stink d in. They started the 781 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: year as a top twenty five, a fringe top twenty 782 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: five ish teams. They've gotten worse almost every week since. 783 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,319 Speaker 1: They're currently sixty seventh in the sp plus, entirely on 784 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 1: the back of a turnover margin that's plus four, a 785 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 1: defense that forces a bunch of three and outs, and 786 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: a good special teams unit. And that is literally it. 787 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 2: That is it. 788 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: They stink. I am confidently on Wisconsin here minus the number. 789 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 2: Why why? I mean why Wisconsin? Wise? I know, I 790 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 2: know Minnesota stinks. What is it about Wisconsin? The team 791 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 2: actually has to make plays to win a game. Wisconsin. 792 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 2: He lost three or four edge Nebraska last. 793 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 1: Week, three or four edge Nebraska last week. 794 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 2: They beat your Indiana. They lost to your Indiana. Who's 795 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 2: just going to use me? And Northwestern? I wasn't especially 796 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 2: close against Northwestern. 797 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: This is more a bet against Minnesota than it is 798 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,840 Speaker 1: four Wisconsin. That's where we're at in the Big ten West, 799 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: is it not. 800 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,839 Speaker 2: I think Minnesota's bad. I'm going to take Wisconsin here 801 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,879 Speaker 2: and an ugly seventeen to fourteen win. 802 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 1: Commonwealth Cup three thirty acc Network Virginia Tech five and 803 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: six minus two and a half at Virginia other than 804 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:37,280 Speaker 1: Ohio State Michigan, I'm actually most curious about this game, Okay, 805 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 1: I say that with a completely straight face. I was 806 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: high in Virginia Tech last week. They probably I jinxed 807 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 1: them out of their six win by locking them up, 808 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 1: But they can do it this week. They can go bowling. Virginia, 809 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 1: on the other hand, is playing better, and they're plucky, 810 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,759 Speaker 1: and they've got Anthony Calandria ACC Player of the Week 811 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: last week, he though committed a cardinal sin of rivalry games. 812 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,800 Speaker 1: Uh oh, and he made an offhand quote about Tech quote, 813 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 1: after we beat Virginia Tech, this program is going to 814 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 1: shoot up and everyone in the country is going to 815 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 1: know about us. 816 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 2: They didn't play this game a year. 817 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 1: Ago because of the tragedy at UVA. I'm happy that 818 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,319 Speaker 1: we get this game back, so that in and of 819 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 1: itself is a big deal. This weekend, Virginia Tech is 820 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: eighteen and two. The last twenty times these teams have played. 821 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 1: You may think, well, that was in the past. It 822 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. The past has a weird way of showing 823 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,800 Speaker 1: up in these rivalry games year and year out. I 824 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 1: don't know why it didn't happen in Bedland this year, okay, 825 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,760 Speaker 1: But on the whole, the past comes out in these games. 826 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:47,479 Speaker 1: Virginia Tech almost exclusively beats Virginia the way Penn State 827 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 1: almost exclusively beats Maryland. So I'm on hokey hokey, hokey 828 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 1: high Virginia Tech minus the two and a half. 829 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,799 Speaker 2: So the scary thing is Virginia Tech has not been 830 00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 2: good on the road this year at all. And Virginia 831 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 2: is they're not an elite loser, but they find ways 832 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 2: to lose. I like Virginia Tech here because a quarterback 833 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 2: playing defense. I think that's something I can just count 834 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 2: on more with the Hokies. It scares me, but you 835 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 2: are right that Virginia Tech just wins this game. By 836 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,319 Speaker 2: and large. They just win this game. And so I'm 837 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,839 Speaker 2: gonna go with the Virginia Tech. The hockey offense, I'm 838 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 2: gonna go with the pass rush. Virginia Tech gets it 839 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 2: done because they just I think they have more ways 840 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 2: to win. And you know, all due respect to Charlottesville, Virginia, 841 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,719 Speaker 2: I don't think the environment is going to be so 842 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 2: crazy that it affects the Hokies and their offense, not 843 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 2: a lot, a bunch of fall starts or anything. Yeah, 844 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 2: I'm going to Virginia Tech here by I don't know 845 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 2: what's the line two and a half. Yeah, they're gonna 846 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:45,839 Speaker 2: win this game by ten. 847 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 1: Final game here in the Quad Territorial Cup, Arizona minus 848 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 1: ten and a half at ASU. Let's just lock this 849 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 1: one up too. Block of the Week. I looked at this, 850 00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 1: I said, is this line of joke? What is this? 851 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 2: I don't get wa is so kind is a school 852 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 2: for Rance. 853 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 1: I'm taking them as a lock. It's our Jake Locker 854 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,320 Speaker 1: pick of the week. I don't need to spend a 855 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 1: whole lot of time in this. I don't know why 856 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,839 Speaker 1: Asu is within two scores of Arizona in this game. 857 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 2: Do you what does this? Does this lock change? If 858 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,480 Speaker 2: Jaden Rashada starts he's been practicing in with the ones 859 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 2: and finally going to make a thing it is and 860 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 2: then place to make a comeback. 861 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: I hope he does. I'd love to see it. And 862 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But I Arizona is playing 863 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,360 Speaker 1: really well. They're playing really really well. They're up to 864 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,799 Speaker 1: fifteenth in the polls. This team has a lot to 865 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,319 Speaker 1: play for. I think they've got a full head of 866 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 1: steam right now. 867 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 2: Does anything change if Oregon wins Going Away and Arizona 868 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 2: is not going to make the uh Pack twelve championship game. 869 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,799 Speaker 2: I don't think so. Okay, I don't think so. I 870 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 2: have Arizona pick as well. Okay, I think Arizona wins 871 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 2: this game forty two to seventeen. 872 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,240 Speaker 1: Real quickly before I get to the Afternoon Megaquad. Let's okay, 873 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 1: rumble in the Rockies Colorado at Utah, Utah favorite by 874 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 1: twenty two and a half quick pick. 875 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 2: I don't know what should were saying statuses because he 876 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:05,319 Speaker 2: got hurt in that Wazoo game. I'm going to Utah. 877 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Utah as well. Land of Lincoln Trophy. 878 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 1: Northwestern on the road at Illinois. Northwestern got Bowl eligible 879 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 1: Illinois five and six, trying to get Bowl eligible. Illinois 880 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 1: favored by five and a half points. 881 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:21,360 Speaker 2: Here, Northwestern ended their snip snap right by beating Purdue 882 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 2: and winning two straight. I think Northwestern gets it done. 883 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 1: I say they start a new one. Let's go Illinois 884 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:30,840 Speaker 1: minus the points, Maryland minus one at Rutgers. I almost 885 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:31,840 Speaker 1: put this one on the quad. 886 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,280 Speaker 2: Rutgers absolutely Rutgers defense at home against the letdown opponent 887 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 2: Maryland losing the way they did to Michigan. 888 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:42,240 Speaker 1: I'm with you. Okie State at home minus seventeen against BYU. 889 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 1: Give me Okie State. 890 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 2: You're not supposed to say Oki time. 891 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 1: Oklahoma State, Oklahoma State, Okay. 892 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,439 Speaker 2: I like Oklahoma State as well. BYU is abysmal on 893 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,760 Speaker 2: the road. If you want to get your your affairs 894 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,360 Speaker 2: in order, invite BYU to your house unless you're Arkansas. 895 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,839 Speaker 1: That's the asterisk unless Arkansas and Tennessee minus twenty seven 896 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 1: at home against Vandy. 897 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 2: Give me Tennessee. 898 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:10,319 Speaker 1: I'll go Tennessee the Saturday afternoon Megaquand my question to 899 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 1: you is how bad you really want play? 900 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,280 Speaker 2: How bad do you want those legs? 901 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 1: Dan, let's give me Let's let's go rapid fire here, okay? 902 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 1: James Madison ten and one minus nine on the road. 903 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 2: At Coastal too many points. Give me Coastal. 904 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:28,240 Speaker 1: Give me Coastal as well. Four o'clock ESPN plus Jacksonville State, 905 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,280 Speaker 1: the game Cocks on the road at New Mexico State. 906 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: We've been talking a lot about New Mexico State in 907 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,960 Speaker 1: these parts lately. Mexico State minus two and a half. 908 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 2: Give me New Mexico State. I think they are for real. 909 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 2: Is that last cruise dates at elevation? Is that something 910 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 2: is that did from a thirty nine hundred feet? Yes? 911 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 1: Absolutely, give me the Mexico State as well. They call 912 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:52,360 Speaker 1: this next one deeper than hate, ESPN. You Georgia Southern 913 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,399 Speaker 1: on the road at app State. App State favored by 914 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 1: eight and a half points. 915 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 2: Dan Georgia Southern and a letdown spot app State pulls 916 00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 2: it out by three. 917 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 1: Though, I'm on app State playing really well. 918 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 2: Battle on the Bay. 919 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 1: You Louisiana Monroe at two and nine on the road 920 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 1: at Louisiana had five and six. Louisiana favored by twelve 921 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 1: and a half points. 922 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 2: Monroe has been awful. Give me Louisiana, give me the 923 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 2: Raisingcagens block of the. 924 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 1: Louisiana has lost three straight. It has been an extremely 925 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 1: lumpy season. Literally, Dan, every number, every model I have 926 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,839 Speaker 1: seen is saying that Louisiana wins this by twenty one 927 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 1: or more points. Okay, I don't get the line. I 928 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 1: don't have to Louisiana big. I'm locking it up and 929 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:43,800 Speaker 1: then last, but certainly not least the first round. Oh, 930 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:49,560 Speaker 1: the FCS Playoffs not gonna play the full thing. It 931 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,960 Speaker 1: is Lafayette on the road at Delaware. Delaware favored by 932 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 1: twelve and a half points, Dan, first round FCS Playoffs 933 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 1: winner plays Montana. Oh, that's a tough one. 934 00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,279 Speaker 2: Montana just won the Brawl of the Wild, right, that's 935 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,879 Speaker 2: right on Tanna State. What do you know about Jamar Curtis? 936 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 2: What do you know about the maroon malers up front 937 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 2: for Lafayette? 938 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,440 Speaker 1: Time on the Yetti's here to pull the upset? Right? 939 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 2: What do you know about the linebacking duo of Billy 940 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 2: Schaeffer and Marco Olivas Tai. Yeah, what do you know 941 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:22,719 Speaker 2: about Patriot League Coach of the Year. I think it's 942 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:27,880 Speaker 2: John I know absolutely Troxel, John Troxel turning this defense around. 943 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:32,799 Speaker 2: Give me the Leopards outright, I Lafayette thirty six, Delaware third. 944 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,799 Speaker 1: John Troxel's in extremely eastern Pennsylvania, isn't it. 945 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:36,359 Speaker 2: That's great? 946 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:37,800 Speaker 1: It's the most eastern PNA. 947 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 2: John John Truxel. 948 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,240 Speaker 1: Continue, Let's go to this Saturday night quad. Shall we 949 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 1: welcome to the pain zones where we live? All right? 950 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 1: Eight pm on Fox, We've got farm Again and Iowa 951 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,920 Speaker 1: stayed at Kansas State. We've also got seven thirty on ABC, 952 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 1: clean old fashioned hate. It's George at Georgia Tech the 953 00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,840 Speaker 1: Paul Meto Bowl. Also at seven thirty SEC Network, Clemson 954 00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,480 Speaker 1: at South Carolina. And then they don't have a name 955 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,720 Speaker 1: for this North Carolina n C state rivalry. And really 956 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 1: there have been articles written that they need to name it, 957 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,360 Speaker 1: but they have it, so maybe you can come up 958 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,080 Speaker 1: with the name. You're good at that eight PM ACC Network. 959 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:18,239 Speaker 1: It is North Carolina minus two and a half on 960 00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,400 Speaker 1: the road at NC State. Give me, give me some 961 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 1: quick picks here. What do you got of these games? 962 00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 1: You want some quick picks? That's why I listed them off. 963 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,919 Speaker 2: Man, all right. I have Iowa State covering Pharmageddon. They've 964 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,879 Speaker 2: actually performed pretty well in this matchup recently. I think 965 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 2: that's too many points. But Kansas State is playing for something, 966 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 2: the opportunity to maybe potentially sort of play for the 967 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 2: big potentially sort of potentially if everything works out in 968 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:44,320 Speaker 2: their favor. Georgia Big against Georgia Tech. Although it scares 969 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 2: me a little that you know, George is gonna call 970 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,720 Speaker 2: off the literal not literal, but you know, penny dogs, 971 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 2: so nobody gets hurt late in a decided matchup. I 972 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 2: have I have South Carolina at home. They're gonna lose 973 00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,000 Speaker 2: this game by three, but they're gonna give Clemson everything 974 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,879 Speaker 2: they have at home. Williams prizes me rocking night game 975 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 2: SEC Network. I assume I don't know who's calling this game. 976 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,719 Speaker 2: Is Cole Kubrick on the sideline for this one? Pro? 977 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:08,279 Speaker 2: I feel like he does a lot of these night 978 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,880 Speaker 2: SEC Network games. Does a great job North Carolina n 979 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 2: C State. I have a defense at home. Give me 980 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:18,840 Speaker 2: NC State outright, I've got. 981 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,759 Speaker 1: Thirty one seventeen, K State and Farmageddon. Okay, I think 982 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 1: this is a favorable spot for them. They're at so 983 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 1: they cover. Yeah, they cover a week after I was 984 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:27,120 Speaker 1: stayed at the Big Texas Game. 985 00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,920 Speaker 2: Chris Climban hasn't done crazy well on this, but continue. 986 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,760 Speaker 1: I'm on K State thirty one seventeen. I'm on Georgia 987 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,880 Speaker 1: Tech plus the points. I'm on Georgia Tech plus the 988 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,799 Speaker 1: points because of the reason that you mentioned earlier. Yeah, 989 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,799 Speaker 1: it would take some incredible Haines King magic to make 990 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,680 Speaker 1: this one close. Okay, at home at home, the Texas 991 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:51,480 Speaker 1: Bowl team, decent rushing offense, catastrophic defense for Georgia Tech. 992 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,759 Speaker 1: They're not gonna have any answers for Georgia's offense. But 993 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,239 Speaker 1: I could see him calling off the dogs. Aid let's 994 00:49:56,239 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 1: say thirty eight to seventeen. So comfortable win for Georgia, 995 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,799 Speaker 1: but a cover for Georgia Tech. I am also on 996 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 1: the plus seven and a half for North Carolina over 997 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,719 Speaker 1: Clemson because Carolina South Carolina needs this one to make 998 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,359 Speaker 1: a bowl. Obviously, they won the game a season ago. 999 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:15,680 Speaker 1: I went against him last week. I'm not going to 1000 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 1: do it again. It's home Spencer Rattler, So give me 1001 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,080 Speaker 1: South Carolina plus the seven and a half? 1002 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,239 Speaker 2: Did I is this? Are we in the middle of 1003 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 2: a b renaissance? By the way, we've got a Brent Pry, 1004 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,440 Speaker 2: a Brent Key and a Brent Venables. Are we in 1005 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 2: the middle of a brenaissance? 1006 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 1: And by the way, Brennan Armstrong playing better lately. 1007 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:35,480 Speaker 2: For we're in a b renaissance? 1008 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,520 Speaker 1: We might be. Yeah, I'm going North Carolina by the way, 1009 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:42,120 Speaker 1: twenty seven to twenty one. Okay, the unnamed North Carolina 1010 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:43,160 Speaker 1: rivalry that needs a name. 1011 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,000 Speaker 2: Okay, any other picks here? 1012 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,480 Speaker 1: We've got the the Fresno San Diego State game. They 1013 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,200 Speaker 1: play for an oil can. That's pretty cool. 1014 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:55,040 Speaker 2: So this is Brady Hoak's final Mountain West game. Yeah, 1015 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,040 Speaker 2: I think I like Fresno here on the road, I 1016 00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:58,920 Speaker 2: don't think the environment is going to be crazy. 1017 00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,440 Speaker 1: I like Fresno Outh, Alabama, Texas State. I'll go Texas 1018 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,840 Speaker 1: State or an NFL network. I'll go West Virginia minus 1019 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,640 Speaker 1: whatever against Baale. I think Baylor's done Kansas minus whatever 1020 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:14,320 Speaker 1: at Sincy, I think Grace he's done and Cal Ucla 1021 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:15,479 Speaker 1: Ucla giving nine. 1022 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,839 Speaker 2: I like Cal here. This is it's so weird. These 1023 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,800 Speaker 2: two teams are not playing anymore. No Cal joining the ACC, 1024 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,840 Speaker 2: Ucla joining the Big Ten. And again it's one of 1025 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,040 Speaker 2: those matchups where there's scar tissue even though they're not rivals. 1026 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,280 Speaker 2: It's the weekend or when you know the LA teams 1027 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,000 Speaker 2: travel up north. I'm gonna take Cal here in a 1028 00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,040 Speaker 2: letdown spot for UCLA. I think Cal gets it done. 1029 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,080 Speaker 1: I think I'm with you. I think I'm with you. 1030 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,399 Speaker 1: All right? Shall we uh? Shall we travel back in time? 1031 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:42,400 Speaker 1: Do the early quad. 1032 00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,279 Speaker 2: Let's welcome to the pain zones where we live. 1033 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:49,040 Speaker 1: Let's go to the pain zone here. Four games early 1034 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:54,320 Speaker 1: part of Saturday, The Governor's Cup High New ABC Kentucky 1035 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,359 Speaker 1: six and five, on the road at Louisville ten and one, 1036 00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:01,640 Speaker 1: Louisville favored by seven. The old Oaken Bucket love this game. 1037 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,759 Speaker 1: H Big ten Network Indiana three and eight Perdue three 1038 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,040 Speaker 1: and eight Perdue favorite by three and a half. We've 1039 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,280 Speaker 1: got on ESPN Texas A and M at LSU LSU 1040 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,560 Speaker 1: favored by eleven and a half. They don't have a 1041 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,520 Speaker 1: name for that game. But still on our radar. And 1042 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,880 Speaker 1: I also put F S one high Noon Houston at 1043 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,360 Speaker 1: four and seven against UCF UCF going for a bowl 1044 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 1: at five and six. They are favored by thirteen and 1045 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 1: a half point stand quick picks, Go give me quick ones. 1046 00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:30,080 Speaker 1: What do you got? 1047 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 2: I like Louisville here. I think they're gonna be able 1048 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:36,279 Speaker 2: to run really, really well against Kentucky, getting sort of 1049 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,520 Speaker 2: energized ahead of the AC Championship game. Hudson Card appears 1050 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,239 Speaker 2: to be back for Purdue, so I'm going to take 1051 00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,120 Speaker 2: the Boilers here, even though I love them, they look 1052 00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:47,880 Speaker 2: very sloppy. West hardout them Heisman Card. I'm going to 1053 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 2: take Texas A and M to cover against LSU. I 1054 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,480 Speaker 2: still don't think the defense for LSU obviously is where 1055 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:54,719 Speaker 2: it needs to be, so I think it's going to 1056 00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,520 Speaker 2: be a back and forth shootout type matchup. Jadan Daniels 1057 00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,960 Speaker 2: certainly is going to be featured and needs to, you know, 1058 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,040 Speaker 2: because it seems to be a very tight race with 1059 00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,640 Speaker 2: bo Nicks. I don't have a good case against Jaydon Daniels. 1060 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,479 Speaker 2: He's been just beyond incredible since he got to face 1061 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:11,160 Speaker 2: SEC defenses and escape those pack twelve defenses. So I'm 1062 00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,799 Speaker 2: gonna go A and M to cover, and I'm gonna 1063 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:17,359 Speaker 2: go UCF to cover against Houston. I'm out. I think 1064 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:18,279 Speaker 2: they'll run all over them. 1065 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:22,480 Speaker 1: I'm on Houston plus thirteen and a half playing for 1066 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:27,800 Speaker 1: Holgo's job. I am on LSU minus whatever against Am. 1067 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,400 Speaker 1: I think A and M's pack it up, pack it in. 1068 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,680 Speaker 1: There are rumors back guys going in the portal. Now, 1069 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,360 Speaker 1: those guys are thinking about can Kun. Yeah, they're not 1070 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,960 Speaker 1: interested in this game. So I'm on LSU minus whatever. 1071 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,160 Speaker 1: I'm on Perdue minus at two and a half or 1072 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,359 Speaker 1: three and a half, whatever the line is, and I'll 1073 00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:42,360 Speaker 1: also take Louisville. 1074 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:44,920 Speaker 2: You're just ignoring the fact that Texas A and M 1075 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,480 Speaker 2: has won seventeenth straight against in state opponents like Abilene, 1076 00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 2: Christian and Rice. Do you see that post? 1077 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:56,440 Speaker 1: That was great, beautiful, beautiful? Yeah, next, any other games 1078 00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,520 Speaker 1: here in this in this block that it's kind of 1079 00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,200 Speaker 1: a lame block of game on Saturday early. 1080 00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,279 Speaker 2: Yes, Syracuse snow Dino Babers. I think they're gonna cover 1081 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:08,799 Speaker 2: and win against wake Forest, who they've been abysmal. I'm 1082 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,359 Speaker 2: gonna take Duke against Pitt. I don't know it's bad. 1083 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,680 Speaker 2: I think Duke is finding ways to be The Duke 1084 00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:17,480 Speaker 2: defense is by far the best thing in this game. 1085 00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,680 Speaker 2: So I'm going to Duke Blue Devils. 1086 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,520 Speaker 1: All right, let's go back in time if we could 1087 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:23,319 Speaker 1: once more. 1088 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,560 Speaker 2: To achieve failure. You have to take it that far. 1089 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:29,839 Speaker 2: Nobody wants to go that far. 1090 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:30,680 Speaker 1: It's scary. 1091 00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:31,360 Speaker 2: Scary. 1092 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:32,880 Speaker 1: Damn something I got news for you. 1093 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:34,319 Speaker 2: That's where winning is. 1094 00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,080 Speaker 1: We're winning is is the Thursday and Friday Quad. 1095 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. So we do these in reverse order. 1096 00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,120 Speaker 1: Because a lot of people download the episode, they don't 1097 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,000 Speaker 1: get a chance to listen until, you know, later on 1098 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 1: in the week before Saturdays, in many cases Saturday morning. 1099 00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,200 Speaker 1: So we don't want to put this one first because 1100 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:50,800 Speaker 1: then you hear it and it's already outdated by the 1101 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,080 Speaker 1: time you listen. We don't want to make ourselves look bad, 1102 00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,759 Speaker 1: really is what this comes down to. Agree, But we 1103 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,359 Speaker 1: got to talk about these games. We've got some big 1104 00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,719 Speaker 1: rivalry games. We got maybe the biggest G five game 1105 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,520 Speaker 1: of the use, which isn't in the quad, but we'll 1106 00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:02,520 Speaker 1: get to mm hmm. 1107 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:04,879 Speaker 2: Got the egg Bowl Thursday night. 1108 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,240 Speaker 1: Play this one Thanksgiving evening at seven thirty on ESPN. 1109 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,640 Speaker 1: Ole Miss a ten point road favorite at Mississippi State. 1110 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:15,120 Speaker 1: We've got the Heroes game Friday at high noon on 1111 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:20,320 Speaker 1: CBS between Iowa and Nebraska. Nebraska a two and a 1112 00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,520 Speaker 1: half point home favorite. We've also got the Battle for 1113 00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:28,160 Speaker 1: the Chancellor's Spurs Dan Friday, seven thirty ABC. It is 1114 00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:32,040 Speaker 1: Texas Tech. It is Texas. Texas is favored by twelve 1115 00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,640 Speaker 1: and one half points. And we got the battle line 1116 00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,960 Speaker 1: Rivalry Missouri and Arkansas. Missouri favored by seven and a 1117 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:41,000 Speaker 1: half points on the road close out the year against 1118 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 1: the Hogs four o'clock on CBS. 1119 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:43,719 Speaker 2: DAN. 1120 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,640 Speaker 1: Who you got in these games? Okay, which one do 1121 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,000 Speaker 1: you want to start with? Let's start with the Egg Bowl. 1122 00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:48,879 Speaker 1: Let's start with the Egg Bowl. 1123 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,319 Speaker 2: I like ole miss big here, you know. I hate 1124 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,560 Speaker 2: that it's in Starkville. And Mississippi State has been as 1125 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:55,440 Speaker 2: bad as they've been this year, but it's hard to 1126 00:55:55,480 --> 00:56:00,799 Speaker 2: see them scoring old. MISSUS defense is decent and I 1127 00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:06,520 Speaker 2: think that's enough can hold out. Yes, that's all you 1128 00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:10,080 Speaker 2: gotta say. Mississippi State's playing this game. Mississippi State needs 1129 00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:11,680 Speaker 2: the win to get bowl eligible. They're not going to 1130 00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:13,480 Speaker 2: get the win to be bowl eligible. They fired their 1131 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:21,080 Speaker 2: coach but would it just be like the egg Bowl? Yeah, 1132 00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,920 Speaker 2: to be the ultimate on Thanksgiving Day? Rights, Well, the 1133 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,399 Speaker 2: tie with salmonella is is real? Yeah, okay, just don't 1134 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,880 Speaker 2: overlook it in the egg Bowl. Anything can happen in 1135 00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,120 Speaker 2: the egg Bowl. So you're still taking old miss big though, 1136 00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:33,759 Speaker 2: I'm still taking over. 1137 00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:34,200 Speaker 1: I agree. 1138 00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:35,719 Speaker 2: I agree, I'd be terrified though. 1139 00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,960 Speaker 1: The over under in the Iowa Nebraska game is twenty 1140 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,120 Speaker 1: six twenty six and a half points. It's the lowest 1141 00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:45,480 Speaker 1: total ever. I saw plenty of conjecture out there online 1142 00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,960 Speaker 1: that it still feels too high. No, it feels like 1143 00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:52,000 Speaker 1: a thirteen to ten kind of game. I'm not betting 1144 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,080 Speaker 1: this game, at least not the over. I will come 1145 00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,400 Speaker 1: back to it in a little bit. I will abstain 1146 00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,839 Speaker 1: from picking now because this is part of my part 1147 00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,400 Speaker 1: that you need to help me name. But where are 1148 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,640 Speaker 1: you at? Iowa on the road a two and a 1149 00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,319 Speaker 1: half point dog against Nebraska. 1150 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,080 Speaker 2: Nebraska tough fought battle, and a losing effort last week 1151 00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:18,320 Speaker 2: against Wisconsin, Iowa is Iowa. This feels like a game 1152 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:22,960 Speaker 2: that Iowa randomly gets its offense together in. As soon 1153 00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,919 Speaker 2: as you're ready to write them off, I'm gonna say 1154 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:31,120 Speaker 2: twenty three fourteen Hawks. 1155 00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,160 Speaker 1: Okay, I'll come back to this one. Okay, Battle for 1156 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,840 Speaker 1: the Chancellor's Spurs. Texas Tech at Texas Texas, a twelve 1157 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,960 Speaker 1: and a half point home favorite. I am on Texas here. 1158 00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,520 Speaker 2: You think Texas wins big, takes care of business. 1159 00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:49,040 Speaker 1: I'm on Texas to win, Texas Tech to cover. Texas 1160 00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:50,400 Speaker 1: Tech is not a bad team. 1161 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,880 Speaker 2: Texas they won three straight. Texas Tech is. 1162 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:56,480 Speaker 1: One three straight. They have largely flown under the radar 1163 00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,200 Speaker 1: here down the stretch, and I think this is a 1164 00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,240 Speaker 1: good team. I think that they will be fired up 1165 00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,000 Speaker 1: to play this game, and it's very easy for Texas 1166 00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,120 Speaker 1: to kind of look past this and maybe what's to 1167 00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:10,200 Speaker 1: come in the conference title game a week from now, 1168 00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,880 Speaker 1: in the playoff games, if they should get that far. 1169 00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,320 Speaker 1: So I don't think necessarily Texas is going to let up, 1170 00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:18,240 Speaker 1: but I think Texas Tech is going to be loaded 1171 00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:19,400 Speaker 1: for bear. So I want those points. 1172 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:23,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish Texas Tech did something better than they do. 1173 00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,720 Speaker 2: I'm going Texas here to win. You know, it could 1174 00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,920 Speaker 2: be a wish casting moment for me because Texas losing 1175 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,640 Speaker 2: would certainly benefit Oregon if Oregon takes care of business. 1176 00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:34,760 Speaker 2: But Texas Tech has not been great on the road. 1177 00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,040 Speaker 2: It started out with losing to Wyoming and it really 1178 00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:40,280 Speaker 2: has they lost that BYU did they not? Texas Tech. 1179 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,240 Speaker 2: I just don't think they get it done against Texas. 1180 00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,920 Speaker 2: I think Texas is going to roll here. They're going 1181 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,520 Speaker 2: to be counting on the passing attack more than they 1182 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,840 Speaker 2: thought they would because of Jonathan Brooks's injury a couple 1183 00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:54,560 Speaker 2: of weeks ago. But still Texas thirty one fourteen. 1184 00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,200 Speaker 1: I'm on Tech to cover. And then the battle line 1185 00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:04,560 Speaker 1: rivalry between miszoo and and Arkansas MISO. I'm on Miszoo. Yeah, 1186 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,080 Speaker 1: I think I think I'm on Missoo. There the big 1187 00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:11,240 Speaker 1: G five games here in this Thursday Slash Friday quad. 1188 00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:16,160 Speaker 1: UTSA on the road at Tulane. Must watch, must watch. 1189 00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:22,000 Speaker 1: It's on ABC, which is awesome. I'm on UTSA plus 1190 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:22,560 Speaker 1: three and a half. 1191 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,120 Speaker 2: I think I am too, And it's hard to gauge somewhat, 1192 00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,360 Speaker 2: but I think they're I think momentum is on their 1193 00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,720 Speaker 2: side with how well the offense has been rolling lately. 1194 00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,640 Speaker 2: And look, I know Tulane has been in these spots before. 1195 00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,600 Speaker 2: I know this is the utsa's first year in this conference, 1196 00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:41,040 Speaker 2: but as much as I like Tulane and their ability 1197 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:44,000 Speaker 2: uh to prevent bigger plays, of which they're the best 1198 00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:47,320 Speaker 2: team in the Americans, certainly they haven't been great defending 1199 00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,360 Speaker 2: the past. This year, I think that there's that's where 1200 00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:52,000 Speaker 2: the opportunity is for the road Runners. Now you have 1201 00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,480 Speaker 2: the Jeff Trailer factor and his name coming up with 1202 00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:58,320 Speaker 2: Texas A and M Still though, I'm gonna go UTSA here. 1203 00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:02,000 Speaker 1: I two lanes played a lot of close games and 1204 01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:05,760 Speaker 1: UTSA had a rocky start but has gone a lot better. Yes, 1205 01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,760 Speaker 1: so they took the jump up. Remember they jumped up 1206 01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:13,520 Speaker 1: into a better conference, and now suddenly they find themselves 1207 01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:18,520 Speaker 1: getting their act together and being a big game like this. 1208 01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:22,560 Speaker 1: So I'm on UTSA. I'm on Boise State minus six 1209 01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:24,440 Speaker 1: and a half at home against air Force. I don't 1210 01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:27,080 Speaker 1: know what's going on with air Force, so give me Boise. 1211 01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:31,560 Speaker 1: Despite the fact they fired their coach didn't seem to 1212 01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,640 Speaker 1: matter a whole lot last week. So I'm on Boise 1213 01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:35,800 Speaker 1: and I am on TCU. 1214 01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,040 Speaker 2: I think Boise can make the Mountain West Championship game. 1215 01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:39,920 Speaker 1: Right, you can still make them out with West Championship game, 1216 01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,600 Speaker 1: which is kind of surprising that they would fire Andiavolos 1217 01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:45,240 Speaker 1: in the middle of all that. But nonetheless I'm on 1218 01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,320 Speaker 1: Boise minus the number. They have something to play for. 1219 01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,400 Speaker 1: Not sure where air force is at. I'm on TCU 1220 01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:55,520 Speaker 1: plus the number against Oklahoma. TCU is just kind of 1221 01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:58,000 Speaker 1: like a pain in the ass. That's where I'm at 1222 01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,960 Speaker 1: with TCU at this point in time, yep, and the 1223 01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:05,600 Speaker 1: Oklahoma side to me, I'm just not comfortable with them 1224 01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,280 Speaker 1: laying points at this juncture. 1225 01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,479 Speaker 2: Why they're much better at home. 1226 01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:11,960 Speaker 1: I have not picked Oklahoma right all year, and so 1227 01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:16,400 Speaker 1: my first gut instinct was Oklahoma minus the points. That's 1228 01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,200 Speaker 1: why I'm called DCU plus a kin. 1229 01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,040 Speaker 2: I think it's a revenge spot. That was the first 1230 01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:25,600 Speaker 2: sort of image of the cracks on the Oklahoma defense. 1231 01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,160 Speaker 2: So I think I think Dylan Gabriel and Jualil Faruk 1232 01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:33,760 Speaker 2: are expected to play Oklahoma at home against this TCU defense. 1233 01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,080 Speaker 2: I think they win this game quite easily. So give me, 1234 01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:38,120 Speaker 2: give me the Sooners. 1235 01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,520 Speaker 1: Here and finally Land Grant game. They play a Friday 1236 01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:42,760 Speaker 1: night at Ford Field. This is on NBC. This is 1237 01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:44,880 Speaker 1: one of those games that they had to negotiate because 1238 01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,800 Speaker 1: Kevin Warren didn't put the finishing touches on the Big 1239 01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:51,480 Speaker 1: ten NBC contract yep, and so they had to shift 1240 01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:53,600 Speaker 1: this one to a Friday night at Ford Field. Penn 1241 01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,160 Speaker 1: State favored by twenty one points. I'm on Penn State. 1242 01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:58,000 Speaker 1: I'll take Penn State minus Nuver. 1243 01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,000 Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna take Penn State here as well. 1244 01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:01,760 Speaker 2: Nice little one too. By the way, with this game 1245 01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,520 Speaker 2: being in Detroit and then the Michigan Ohio State game 1246 01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:06,240 Speaker 2: being down the road in an our Bert, we can 1247 01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,840 Speaker 2: do huge games within whatever it is a half hour. 1248 01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:13,800 Speaker 1: All right, Shall we get to the moment you've all 1249 01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:19,080 Speaker 1: been waiting for? Of course, Ti versus the World, Steve. 1250 01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:26,680 Speaker 2: Time versus the World, presented by Draft KINGSLZ book. 1251 01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:30,160 Speaker 1: So look, go on out again to forballers dot com. 1252 01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:34,120 Speaker 1: Make sure you get in on the Pickham pool. A 1253 01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:35,880 Speaker 1: big week of games to pick. We've got a full 1254 01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,680 Speaker 1: slate of like fifteen games that are out there. You 1255 01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:40,840 Speaker 1: got to get in in order to win the prizes. 1256 01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:42,480 Speaker 1: You got to get in to be part of the fun. 1257 01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,520 Speaker 1: There is no better week than Rivalry Week College Football 1258 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:46,480 Speaker 1: Week thirteen to do. 1259 01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,480 Speaker 2: Just excuse you, Salmondila is Saturday. 1260 01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:58,840 Speaker 1: I've got four games here, Okay, I've got Wazoo plus 1261 01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,479 Speaker 1: sixteen and a half in the out Cup. I've got 1262 01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:04,200 Speaker 1: Oregon minus thirteen and a half in the Platypus Cup. 1263 01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:08,240 Speaker 1: I've got Arizona minus ten on the road in the 1264 01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,480 Speaker 1: Territorial Cup. And I've got Louisiana minus twelve and a 1265 01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,200 Speaker 1: half in that game against Monroe that I do not understand. 1266 01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:18,080 Speaker 1: I don't get the line. Literally everything I could see 1267 01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,240 Speaker 1: has this at twenty one points or more. I'm just 1268 01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:24,360 Speaker 1: gonna trust the number. Okay, trust the number. Those are 1269 01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:28,960 Speaker 1: my four Oregon, Wazoo, Arizona and Louisiana. 1270 01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:29,880 Speaker 2: Then Dan. 1271 01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:34,120 Speaker 1: Then we've got this. Many of you are listening to 1272 01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,520 Speaker 1: this on a Saturday morning. I apologize if you couldn't 1273 01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:39,600 Speaker 1: get in on the bet in advance, because I'm going 1274 01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:42,680 Speaker 1: to put a Friday game in here. That being said, 1275 01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,280 Speaker 1: I've only hit one of these parlays all year. Maybe 1276 01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,960 Speaker 1: you're better off not betting it. Here are the three 1277 01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:51,840 Speaker 1: teams that I'm going to put together. Virginia Tech minus 1278 01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:52,440 Speaker 1: two and a half. 1279 01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:53,120 Speaker 2: We both like it. 1280 01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:57,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, they bring the turkey to the table. We've 1281 01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:01,280 Speaker 1: got Nebraska minus two and a half points. Still don't 1282 01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,640 Speaker 1: really know why they're favored the point has gone, the 1283 01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,360 Speaker 1: pointspray has gone more in their direction throughout the course 1284 01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:09,320 Speaker 1: of the week. Obviously somebody likes them. I'm not sure 1285 01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,120 Speaker 1: I fully do. But they're bringing the corn to the 1286 01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:15,920 Speaker 1: table and then let's just go straight up rice rice 1287 01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:20,000 Speaker 1: minus four in their game this weekend. That brings us 1288 01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:23,880 Speaker 1: to turkey, corn and rice dan some sort of Thanksgiving 1289 01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:25,920 Speaker 1: theme parlay is what I'm thinking. Do we have a 1290 01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:27,680 Speaker 1: name that we can workshop here on the fly? 1291 01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,520 Speaker 2: I mean, you could do the Plucky Pilgrim parlay the 1292 01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,320 Speaker 2: Plucky Pilgrim, right, I mean, I don't know. That sounds 1293 01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:37,640 Speaker 2: like the name of a fun bar of the Plucky Pilgrim. 1294 01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:40,680 Speaker 1: I was thinking the Thanksgiving platter. 1295 01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:44,440 Speaker 2: Parlay Platter's not bad. I mean, you have the platypus 1296 01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:48,160 Speaker 2: in there, so it could be the platterpuss not great, No, 1297 01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:50,600 Speaker 2: don't like it. So you have pilgrim. What other p 1298 01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:52,200 Speaker 2: words are aligned with Thanksgiving? 1299 01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:53,840 Speaker 1: I have no idea. 1300 01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:57,720 Speaker 2: You know, plateful parlay right, because this is your plateful right, 1301 01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,600 Speaker 2: turkey and corn and rice and all that stuff. 1302 01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,480 Speaker 1: I think I might just go with the Thanksgiving parlay 1303 01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,080 Speaker 1: platter or parlor platter parlay something like that. 1304 01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,640 Speaker 2: I like that but it's more of a plate than 1305 01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:10,680 Speaker 2: a platter. Do you want me to go plucky Pilgrim? 1306 01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:12,640 Speaker 2: I want the plucky Pilgrim parlay. 1307 01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:16,680 Speaker 1: Key Pilgrim, Plucky Pilgrim parlay. We'll do that. Download the 1308 01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:20,680 Speaker 1: DraftKings Sportsbook app now use the code solid New customers 1309 01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,720 Speaker 1: get one hundred and fifty instantly a bonus bets for 1310 01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:27,840 Speaker 1: betting just five dollars on basketball only on DraftKings Sportsbook 1311 01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:33,960 Speaker 1: with code solid Dan. The crown is yours, pla plaine. 1312 01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:39,120 Speaker 1: Here we go. We made it a lot of games 1313 01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,200 Speaker 1: this here week. It is Rivalry Week. Is College Football 1314 01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:42,760 Speaker 1: Week thirteen? 1315 01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:47,280 Speaker 2: College football and a live stream, right, so that's twelve pm. 1316 01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:52,160 Speaker 2: It's the big noon Saturday, twelve pm Eastern is Can 1317 01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,160 Speaker 2: we get there? It's just soliverblelive dot com. 1318 01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,640 Speaker 1: We'll get you there, soliverblelive dot com. We'll get you there. 1319 01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:58,720 Speaker 1: Go to the YouTube channel. Yeah, come on. 1320 01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:02,040 Speaker 2: Out, Ohio State mission again. Watch a long live stream 1321 01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:04,919 Speaker 2: you anticipate participate. 1322 01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,520 Speaker 1: Verballers dot com of course is where you can always 1323 01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:10,720 Speaker 1: go if you want to be part of the fun. 1324 01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:14,600 Speaker 1: On our discord server. I suspect it will be spicy 1325 01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,400 Speaker 1: in the discord this week so do I a lot 1326 01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:20,240 Speaker 1: of reason to be spicy. Where's my sound? 1327 01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:21,680 Speaker 2: Do you have the sound? I don't even have it. 1328 01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:23,840 Speaker 1: I did the sound A lot of reasons to be 1329 01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:24,959 Speaker 1: spicy this week, Roy. 1330 01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'll see what Saturday night, Saturday night, Saturday 1331 01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:32,280 Speaker 2: night for that campfire midnight eastern Saturday night. To react 1332 01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:32,920 Speaker 2: to everything. 1333 01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:38,000 Speaker 1: For that guy there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, didn't 1334 01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:40,600 Speaker 1: even talk about your Thanksgiving plans. Not sure I want 1335 01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:41,840 Speaker 1: to after all of this sound. 1336 01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:43,480 Speaker 2: Here's all I can tell you. Here's all I can 1337 01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:45,120 Speaker 2: tell you about Thanksgiving, and then we'll let the good 1338 01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:50,080 Speaker 2: people go. Make sure there's just different textures. Season your food, 1339 01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:52,439 Speaker 2: and make sure if you've got a soft dish, there's 1340 01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:54,760 Speaker 2: something crunchy on top. Make sure if you've got a 1341 01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,400 Speaker 2: crunchy dish, maybe there's a sauce, a soft cell. Like, 1342 01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,840 Speaker 2: just get the textures going, ty. You mentioned climaxing in 1343 01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:04,120 Speaker 2: the beginning. I'm mentioning textures to close it out, that's all. 1344 01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:06,640 Speaker 2: Like I put a crispy like it's called a crispity 1345 01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:11,160 Speaker 2: crunchity mashed potato topper. That's great. Mix your textures. That's all. 1346 01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:13,360 Speaker 1: For that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubnstein 1347 01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:16,480 Speaker 1: for myself, Ty Hildenbrandt, thank you for joining us, for downloading, 1348 01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:18,320 Speaker 1: for supporting the show. Make sure you rate and review 1349 01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:21,280 Speaker 1: if you've already done so. If you're already listening to 1350 01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,680 Speaker 1: this on your podcasting app of choice wherever you maybe, 1351 01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:27,240 Speaker 1: have a happy, healthy and safe Thanksgiving. We will talk 1352 01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:35,600 Speaker 1: to y'all seon and stay solid peace. Gambling problem call 1353 01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:39,200 Speaker 1: one eight hundred gambler or visit www dot one eight 1354 01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:42,680 Speaker 1: hundred gambler dot net. 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