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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with I R Radio Ashley. When we started this season out,

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Speaker 1: we were just talking about how we made it through quarantine.

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Speaker 1: We we hung in there. Uh, we did a great

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Speaker 1: I think we did a great job getting through quarantine.

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Speaker 1: We were so pumped for a season of The Bachelorette

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Speaker 1: and to our in in a lot of ways. Surprise,

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Speaker 1: we now have two seasons of the Bachelorette to break down. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so why is Bachelor Nation complaining about this? I'm a

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Speaker 1: little bit mind boggled by people giving Claire so much flak.

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Speaker 1: It's like, you guys had an issue last season because

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Speaker 1: Peter was not decisive enough, and now Claire's just too

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Speaker 1: decisive and you're annoyed that she ended her part of

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Speaker 1: the season early. Now you get two bachelorettes. What's sort

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Speaker 1: of complain about two amazing women as leads. Well, in fact,

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Speaker 1: last night I tweeted, hey, be nice to Claire. Uh Um,

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Speaker 1: I can get that, Like people are upset with how

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Speaker 1: she handled it. I can actually understand what people are, like, Hey,

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Speaker 1: why please clarify for me? I just understand that people

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Speaker 1: might not love the way she handled things that they

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Speaker 1: wanted her to me be my more for uh an

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Speaker 1: ode to the time we're in bipartisan, more open, uh less.

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Speaker 1: Initially into Dale because it felt like the first three

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Speaker 1: weeks were Clarion Dale, Clariondale. We didn't get that know

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Speaker 1: any of these guys. I I can get where people

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Speaker 1: are like, hey, I don't I don't enjoy watching Claire

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Speaker 1: are being mean to Claire, Like you can dislike how

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Speaker 1: she pursued love. She went out of her way to

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Speaker 1: make this love happen as soon as possible. She was

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Speaker 1: never fake. And when I tweeted this last night, I

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Speaker 1: got a reaction from somebody saying, no, we wanted a

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Speaker 1: full season. We only got three episodes. To my responses,

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Speaker 1: not a good argument. You're gonna get a whole season,

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Speaker 1: Like you're gonna get a full season now. You just

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Speaker 1: get two bachelorettes, both incredible women, and we get to

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Speaker 1: see Tasia on our screens, which we've been waiting for

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Speaker 1: for years. Are people annoy that they're not getting more

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Speaker 1: Claire Because I would have liked to see Clarendale a

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Speaker 1: little bit more. I can see complaining about that. But

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Speaker 1: to complain that you're not getting a full season, I

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Speaker 1: feel like a silly because Tassia's season is going. Tasia's

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Speaker 1: part of the season is going to feel like a

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Speaker 1: full season. You guys are gonna get like eight episodes

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Speaker 1: with her. Yeah, we're actually gonna know the guy's names

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Speaker 1: because I don't know any of these dudes names right now. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so that's great. We're gonna talk to Chris Harrison later

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Speaker 1: and break down the episode further. Uh, talk a lot

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Speaker 1: about Clarendale's connection, but right now, I want to talk

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Speaker 1: about Tasha and the guys that you see Tasha being

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Speaker 1: compatible with, because I think it's super interesting that we

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Speaker 1: the audience now know the guys better than the lead

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Speaker 1: see that a match with? I don't know. I have

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Speaker 1: some interesting theories, actually, I really do, And I am

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Speaker 1: excited for Tasha. I'm excited that we get to watch her.

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Speaker 1: I think she's great. What are your interesting theories? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll definitely tell you here. But you know, my thought

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Speaker 1: on this whole thing is, if you're upset with Claire,

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Speaker 1: like you should be, you should be celebrating the fact that,

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Speaker 1: like now we have a new back to Arete and

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Speaker 1: right now, and especially with Tasha being uh the lead.

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Speaker 1: She is an incredible person and I think Chris Harrison

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Speaker 1: and he has nothing but incredible things to say about Tasha. Um,

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Speaker 1: just as a human and we've been around her. We

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Speaker 1: just but yeah, she's just great. So here's my theory,

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Speaker 1: Ashley h I think Ben Bennett is the right thinking

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Speaker 1: whispering rumor that you know, I think Nick File tweeted

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Speaker 1: I honestly think Tasia and Bennett might run off in

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Speaker 1: that means that he'll be more of a character along

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Speaker 1: the way. He has shown glimmers of being a real gentleman.

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Speaker 1: He's really made all the right moves when it comes

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Speaker 1: somebody that I love. Um, and then he looks like

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Speaker 1: my other theory. I think it's gonna be really hard

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Speaker 1: So my question, see, you actually will we see a

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Speaker 1: be just like a love story here getting to know people? No,

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Speaker 1: I think like all the drama really happened in the

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Speaker 1: I think Yoseph is going to be the only villain

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Speaker 1: But Ben is his name, right? Yeah? I think it's

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Speaker 1: Tasias the Bachelor atte Ashley and I have just told

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Speaker 1: you who we think is gonna rise and shine Ivan

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Speaker 1: Um in fact um. Now here's the big storylines that

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Speaker 1: that's a great question. I feel like one of I

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Speaker 1: I'm like, ah, come on, you guys, be fine. Look

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Speaker 1: was on a scooter going back and forth across the

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00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 1: property fifty times, talk to the guys, talk to Dale,

427
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Speaker 1: talk to Claire, just sweating my ass off in the

428
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 1: desert um. At one point it was funny. I actually

429
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 1: noticed when I sat down with Claire. I was out

430
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 1: of breath because I had just run across because I

431
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,439
Speaker 1: heard she was kind of melting down again and I

432
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: wanted to talk to her. And I'm like sweating and

433
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 1: like profusely, like hyperventilating. It was a wild, wild ride

434
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 1: for all of us, but I think it was handled

435
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 1: very well, and at the end of the day, it

436
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 1: was all about Claire leading us in the direction, making

437
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,199
Speaker 1: the choice, and us facilitating that. That's the only thing

438
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,919
Speaker 1: we cared about the h I love that you just

439
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: said that, because I noticed when we're watching the episode

440
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 1: that moment with Claire you get a few of those,

441
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 1: is one that felt unexpected because you are out of breath,

442
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,439
Speaker 1: like you're sitting down and you can hear it, like

443
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 1: a few times, I'm literally moving chairs into the there's

444
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 1: no set up for this now, Chris. I think one

445
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 1: of the things that we always talk about, and this

446
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: is a good moment for that, is people who who

447
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 1: watched the show oftentimes believe that that the producers have

448
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 1: some sinister plan. They're sitting in this room and they

449
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,439
Speaker 1: have this all calculated in there. You know they there,

450
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 1: this is gonna happen. No matter what. Can you give

451
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 1: us a little bit more of a background. You just

452
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: mentioned it to what's going on as the story is unfolding,

453
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: everybody's trying to keep up with it, Like, what does

454
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 1: this look like for the producers who are trying to

455
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 1: keep up and still make a show? Well, I heard

456
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: to your point. Um, I I hear some crazy, outlandish

457
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: ideas and conspiracies, and and considering you know what we've

458
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 1: been through as a country, maybe these aren't the craziest.

459
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 1: But I had heard. I saw somebody or somebody mentioned

460
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 1: that this whole thing was planned from the beginning, and

461
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 1: I thought that might be the dumbest sentence ever uttered

462
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: by any human being. Think about what what would have

463
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: had to have happened. That's crazier than the grassy Knoll

464
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: and the fake moon landing. I mean, think of what

465
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: would have had to have gone in place to make

466
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 1: that happen. We would have had to guarantee that Claire

467
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 1: was going to fall in love in a certain amount

468
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 1: of time and pull this off, by the way, and

469
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 1: do it in a pandemic good luck. But anyway, beyond

470
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 1: that being the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life,

471
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 1: you know you're right, we have learned to embrace, especially

472
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: over the last three or four years, to really embrace

473
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 1: and let this show be raw, and let this show

474
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 1: lead us into wherever it's going. And I sat down

475
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: a number of occasions, and you saw a lot of

476
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: it with Claire where she was really open about you know,

477
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 1: last episode, episode three where she says, you know, can

478
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: we move this along? I don't really want to spend

479
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,959
Speaker 1: time with these guys, essentially, and you know, and clearly

480
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: her head was not there anymore, and clearly she was

481
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 1: not even remotely giving anybody else a chance, which is

482
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: not bad. Again, I'm not mad at Claire. No one

483
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: is mad at Claire, at least on the show side.

484
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 1: The producers. We embraced it. And I sat down with

485
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: her and said, Claire, my only issue is this isn't

486
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 1: fair anymore. Let's just figure out what's going on between

487
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: you and Dale. Let's stop the show. I mean, if

488
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 1: you understand, you guys do. But I hope the people

489
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: listening understand what it takes to push pause on a

490
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: television production and not know where it's going, and just say,

491
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 1: you know what, Claire, We're going to give you a

492
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: shot with Dale and Dale, only it might be the

493
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: worst decision in television history, but we're going to give

494
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 1: this a shot because that's what you're telling us to do.

495
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: And then they end up together, They end up spending

496
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: the night together, they tell each other they love each other,

497
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 1: and then they get engaged. I mean, that is the

498
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: ultimate dream. And so you know, I just want to

499
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: clear it up that at no point it was like

500
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: disappointed and Claire, at no point where any of us disappointed.

501
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: In fact, it was the contrary, and we said, Babe,

502
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 1: we love you, We're here for you, this is your show,

503
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: do what you want. We're gonna let you lead the way.

504
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 1: And Claire said it herself, She's like, I'm unconventional. I've

505
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: taken control of this from the start, and this is

506
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do. And so I was. I was

507
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: happy to go on that ride as well as it was.

508
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 1: Talking to producers, so many, pretty much everybody said that

509
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 1: they had never seen this kind of instantaneous connection, this

510
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: kind of front runner situation like they have with Claire

511
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: and Dale. If there was another couple in Bachelor history

512
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: that you can say you felt was pretty certain from

513
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: week one, who would have been Ben in Olivia. It

514
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 1: all comes back around. But I mean, and I hate

515
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: to use Ben and beat on him, but that's a

516
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: good example of how things usually go is night one

517
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: and you guys both know this intimately night one, you're

518
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: really just getting a gut instinct. Sometimes that gut does

519
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 1: pay off. Um, whether it's you know, Ryan and Trista

520
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 1: or Joe Joe and Jordan's. But and if you ask

521
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 1: them now, look, they're not dumb that they're trying to

522
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: get married, or they are married, they're gonna say, oh, baby,

523
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 1: it was always you. Baby, You're the one. You know, Baby,

524
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 1: you're the best I've ever had. Um, you know. But

525
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: the truth is somewhere in between, which is if you

526
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: really allow yourself like Ben, you're gonna go off and

527
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna explore everything. This is the one time where

528
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 1: you truly don't have to just stop. You can continue

529
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: figuring it out. Um. Look at Sean Low, He's a

530
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: great example of somebody if we had stopped the show,

531
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: he wouldn't be with Kathy it Um. You know, I

532
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: think this is not a detriment or a throwing shade

533
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: at Claire, but I think often you are doing yourself

534
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: a disservice by not exploring all of these This is

535
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: the one time you get to step out of your

536
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 1: comfort zone, date people you wouldn't date, meet people you

537
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 1: wouldn't meet, and really push yourself to be uncomfortable. That

538
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're gonna fall in love with this particular person,

539
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: but now you know what you are looking for. And

540
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: so you know there are times when someone might find

541
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: someone night one, but do they really you know it

542
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: ebbs and flows and and oftentimes they think they know

543
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: and they don't. And so usually it's a journey you

544
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: really do need to go on to be certain of

545
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: your love. And we really reaffirmed that love at first

546
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: sight feeling. Um, you know, for Claire, it was ballgame,

547
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: you know. And so I will stand by that comment.

548
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: No matter what revisionist history people would like to reimagine

549
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: in their head, that's never happened. Nobody has ever looked

550
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: at me dead in the eye and said, my husband

551
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: just walked in. This is a of her and hyperventilating

552
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: and sweating. Well, we were all sweating, but you know

553
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: what I mean. The uh, Chris, this is this. I

554
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: agree with what you said at the beginning. It was

555
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: this is some of the best television ever produced, considering

556
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: there was a pandemic, considering the situations that you're in. Uh.

557
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: I think it's a great point and you always are

558
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: good to do this, but to pause here, uh and say,

559
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: like the team behind the scenes, UH did a tremendous

560
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: job making this season happen. I mean, absolutely incredible and

561
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: that should never be forgotten. But it points me to

562
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: my next question. Um, you make your job look really easy.

563
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: I think one of the biggest maybe like things that

564
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: are I find most offensive when somebody comes to us

565
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: like Chris Harrison has the easiest job in the world.

566
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: I don't think any of us would ever say that

567
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: that have been on the show. But you make it

568
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: look easy. How do you personally stay calm, collected, like uh,

569
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: engaged in the midst of what's going on behind the

570
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: scenes with two people who are you know, going scooter

571
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: hering back and forth to try to keep a show going.

572
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: What what do you have to do to get in

573
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: that mindset and make this look like, okay, everything's okay,

574
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: We're going to move forward. It is. It's juggling a

575
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: lot of balls and once and that is you know,

576
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: the producer's side of me. But then at the end

577
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: of the day, it's it's it's what would I, you know,

578
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: do with my kids? And I think being a dad

579
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: of two teenagers and and and with age comes this

580
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: wisdom and experience too. And I'm a little older than

581
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: everybody now is to come in and have this grace

582
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: and empathy and you know, tell me what you want

583
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: and what Claire was difficult. She was difficult, not in

584
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: a bad way, but just I know her well and

585
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: I know that there's some serious insecurities. And you saw

586
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: that last conversation when I went back in because she

587
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: was crying, because she was still doubting what was happening.

588
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: Even after Dale had really like exposed himself and explained

589
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: how much he loved her and was ready to take

590
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: that next steps, she just couldn't believe this was going

591
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,719
Speaker 1: to happen. And so that was just me being a

592
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: loving father and stepping in and saying, you know, forget,

593
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: forget the show, forget being a producer. You've got to compartmentalize,

594
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: just like a Bachelor of Bachelotte does. So I do

595
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: the same where I stopped producing and I'm like, Okay,

596
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be here for you We're just going

597
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: to talk this through and if it turns out to

598
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: be on television, grade if it doesn't, I don't care.

599
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: But as you know, a lot of stuff happens that

600
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: never ends up on TV that I do. UM, sometimes

601
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: we're not there's not even cameras around where you know,

602
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: someone might be spinning out of control or just struggling

603
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: and I just sit down and have a drink with

604
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: them and we just shoot the shop. And UM, I

605
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: have a very bizarre job because it's not just sitting

606
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: in front of a television camera and hosting like I'm

607
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: doing Who wants to be a millionaire? Um, A lot

608
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: of stuff happens behind the scenes where it may never

609
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: be on TV, but the effect will be on TV.

610
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: If that makes sense. Now, I question all the times

611
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: that we sat and had a cock toil together if

612
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: I was actually spinning out of control and didn't realize

613
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: it myself. But it also helps me too, like I

614
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: like to know what's going on, and so that's a

615
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: weird thing. It's a weird job, you know. You know,

616
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: it's a strange career to have where I am like

617
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: I'm talking to two people that I dearly love and

618
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: are and are very good friends of mine, and I'm

619
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: really involved and care about your lives. Yet you were

620
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: on my television show that I was also trying to produce,

621
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: and that's a weird line to draw. And I have

622
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: to be very careful, and I always err on the

623
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: side of being human and caring about you guys, And

624
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: sometimes I just want to know what's going on, and

625
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: that helps me treat you. I just don't ever want

626
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: to be that a whole that threw somebody under the

627
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: bus or or mistreated you. And look, sometimes I'll push you.

628
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'll you know, be you know, misleading in certain

629
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,239
Speaker 1: ways if it's you know, if I know I can

630
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: get away with it if it's good TV. But at

631
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: the end of the day, you guys know, and I

632
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: will tell everybody, I will not lie to you. I'm

633
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: not going to screw you over like unless you deserve it.

634
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: Unless you push me, I'll push back. You know that. Um,

635
00:32:58,480 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: But I at the end of the day, I have

636
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: your back and I'll be there for you you always. Yeah.

637
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: So then to follow up on all of that, you

638
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: you do you treat this like you you care about Claire. Uh,

639
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: you're treating her uh like a daughter as a friend

640
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: when she tells you, then I love Dale and I

641
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: want this to be done. You then obviously believe like

642
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: your your daughter and son come to you sometimes and

643
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,959
Speaker 1: say things that you're like, that's not good for you,

644
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: Like that's not right, Like I need to correct you here,

645
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: But at that moment, you obviously believe that was the

646
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: right thing to do. If you allowed it to happen,

647
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: why were you so confident this was the right move? Well,

648
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: and I again, it's I don't know if that's necessarily

649
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: the case, Like, you know, again, you could go back

650
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: to being a dad. It's you know, my daughter Taylor

651
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: comes in and says, Dad, I love I love Tommy.

652
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: You know we're gonna get married. And you know she's

653
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: sixteen years old. Um, hopefully it's not that drastic um.

654
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: And and you know Tomy's gonna be walking with a

655
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: lip for a while. But no, but you know, I've

656
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: learned if I go in and say Taylor, you're forbidden

657
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: from seeing him, You're never going to talk to him.

658
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: You know, what's she gonna do? I mean, Ashley loves

659
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: romantic comedies as much as I do. All you're gonna

660
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 1: do is make that person run to them immediately. And so,

661
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: you know, my thing with Claire was not to tell

662
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: her she's wrong, because who's to say she is? By

663
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 1: the way? Um, And that's something I learned a long

664
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: time ago as well, Like, just because I think something

665
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: doesn't make it so. It doesn't make it right. It

666
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: doesn't make it it's not it's not so black and white.

667
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: And so telling Claire from the beginning you're wrong there's

668
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: no such thing as love at first sight, Well, that's

669
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 1: naive and stupid and arrogant of me. And so maybe

670
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: I need to learn something here. And so it's more

671
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,959
Speaker 1: of Claire tell me from the moment this happened, which

672
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: was night one, explained to me what you're seeing in Dale?

673
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: And so it wasn't just this this light bulb moment.

674
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 1: There was several days and several, like you know, a

675
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: few weeks where we were having these deep conversations, sometimes

676
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: on camera, sometimes off of like what is it about Dale?

677
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: What are you feeling? What is it in your past

678
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: that's making you do this? You know, So when we

679
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: got to that moment, I did feel secure in that, Okay,

680
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: you are making this decision, and I'm going to support it,

681
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: And it doesn't mean I agree. That's not my job

682
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: and it's not my job as a parent to always agree.

683
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: But it is my job once you have made a decision,

684
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: to support you anyway I can and and to still

685
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:17,959
Speaker 1: be there for you. And it doesn't mean she won't

686
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: fall on her face. It doesn't mean my kids won't fail.

687
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: But you have to be given enough leeway to make

688
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,479
Speaker 1: your own mistakes in life. And again that's not saying

689
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: this is a mistake, but you. That is important that

690
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: you're not that dad or not that person that just

691
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: says then you're wrong, You're an idiot. It's like, well,

692
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: that's not given anybody not to make this political. I

693
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: think we saw enough of that over the last several years,

694
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 1: of people just canceling you or telling you you're stupid,

695
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: telling you whatever you're saying is wrong. It's like, well,

696
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: where do you go from that? Where's the grace, where's

697
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 1: the room to talk and debate and have a conversation.

698
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: How am I ever going to evolve and learn? If

699
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: you just tell me I suck and I'm stupid, that's

700
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: I just I've never understood that. And that is our

701
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 1: political parties right now, and not the parties, it's the people.

702
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: You believe your side so much that if if anybody

703
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: disagrees with you, they're just idiots. Well, where's the room

704
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: to grow? And I and in this case, I had

705
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,439
Speaker 1: to give her room to grow, and I needed to grow.

706
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 1: So when you walked into the room and he said, Okay, Claire,

707
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: we gotta we're gonna make a decision here, how do

708
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:32,720
Speaker 1: you think that conversation was gonna go? Um? I wasn't sure. Really,

709
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: that's the weird part. I mean, you should never produce

710
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: a show where you don't know the outcome. And I

711
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: mean it's really it's like TV one oh one. You

712
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: go to school, it's like when you're learning journalism, don't

713
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: ever ask a question you don't know the answer to. Um.

714
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: And that's our entire show is we're asking a question

715
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: we don't know the answer to. So it's a really

716
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: dangerous way to produce TV. But I thought I knew

717
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: what she would say, But I wasn't so sure that

718
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: she was going to be so wrong in her convictions

719
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: that she was going to be willing to shut things down.

720
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: And that's where that dinner came from. And even at

721
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: that dinner, I wasn't so sure that we wouldn't just

722
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: put Dale back in the house and kick back up again,

723
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: and then who knows what happens again. You know, there

724
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: was no definitive set answer to Tastia's our new back cerette.

725
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 1: By this point, I will tell you we had already

726
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: called her and she was on property, but that didn't

727
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: mean she was the bacherette yet. That just means she

728
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 1: took a leap of faith and if things kept going

729
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: that direction, in this direction, then she would be. But

730
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: there was never that moment of Tassia just because she

731
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: she's here, is going to be our bacherette. Claire had

732
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: to lead us down that road. And when we got

733
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 1: to a point where the show ends, and I think

734
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: everybody's been watching the show for twenty years, you know,

735
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: when the show ends, there's a proposal, that's it, Like

736
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: that's ballgame, we move on. And so Claire took us

737
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: to that point, and Dale took us to that point,

738
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: and that then, and really only then were we sure

739
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: that she was going to be the bachelorette. And anything

740
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 1: before that, If anybody tells you any different, they're lying.

741
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: It's just raw. But Tasia was there clearly she needed

742
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: to come because the protocol for getting tested medically to

743
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: be safe, figure out what we would do with clothes,

744
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 1: because it's not as easy as just going shopping because

745
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: we can't shop for you, So we had to figure

746
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: out a lot of things. So she was there, but

747
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: she knew as well as all of us that it

748
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: wasn't a set deal until this couple was you know,

749
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: well not even till they were engaged. It was just

750
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: until Claire made a definitive decision. So it's bananas to

751
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: me is that over the past two weeks or so,

752
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of rumors that Claire didn't feel

753
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: like she was in charge, that she felt like, you know,

754
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 1: she had to go along with productions decisions. But watching

755
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 1: this episode, it makes it seem like she was given

756
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: the decision making power the entire way through and that

757
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 1: she made the decision that she loves some watch. So

758
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: how do you address those rumors and why are they

759
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: even floating around? I don't know. I mean, I haven't

760
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: heard Claire saying anything, um, you know, and until I

761
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: hear Claire say something along those lines, then you know,

762
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: all I can say is and I texted with Claire

763
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: back and forth, and I think she understands this too.

764
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: It was all in in her hands. I mean, I

765
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: can't tell you how many times I sat down with

766
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,919
Speaker 1: her and you saw a lot of it, and said,

767
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: you tell me, where does this go from here? What

768
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: do you want to do? I want time with Dale? Okay,

769
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: I mean, in unprecedented fashion, we stopped the show and

770
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: gave her a bizarre, uh kind of overnight fantasy suite

771
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: in the middle of the show. I mean, that's just

772
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: it's unpressent. So not only did she have control, but

773
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: we also moved mountains to make things happen that shouldn't

774
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: be happening right now. And so yeah, I mean she

775
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: had total control. You know. Yes, we push things along

776
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: because that's how that that's also how the show goes of. Okay,

777
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: well this is the next step. They crossed that hurdle. Okay, well,

778
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 1: now this is the next step. Where does this go

779
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: from here? And that's engagement. And then once there was

780
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 1: an engagement, um, then there's no forcing. It's just that's

781
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 1: where the show. I mean, I don't know what else

782
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: we would have done. And just let's show the meeting,

783
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: dinner every night together, watching Netflix. That's that's not a

784
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: television show. But even with that said, you saw in

785
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: the tease, we still bring them back and we still

786
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: have conversations. We're still going to keep up with them, um,

787
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: you know, as things go along. But there is no

788
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: more show. She's not dating anybody body anymore, and so

789
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what else anybody would want us to do.

790
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: Things took its natural order and progress, and then it

791
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: was time to move on and start another season of

792
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: the back turette Now. I have a couple more follow

793
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: up questions to that. Um, but before we transfer, transfer

794
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: just for a bit into mainly bands talking about proposals. Uh,

795
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: you had mentioned that this a few weeks ago. And

796
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: this is something that actually I've been uh confused by

797
00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: since then, is that there's Claire season. You made that comment. Um,

798
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: why that comment? Because it still doesn't fit with where

799
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: where we know we're going with the show now. M m. Well,

800
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,439
Speaker 1: but because it was well, first of all, we weren't

801
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: talking about who was next, you know, what was happening,

802
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: so we weren't gonna givewayplose that's first and foremost, um,

803
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: And and that was also out of respect for Claire.

804
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,439
Speaker 1: You know, we we had a lot of meetings behind

805
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: the scenes ABC and producers and the promos department, like

806
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: when do we announced Stasia, what do we do with that?

807
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 1: And again the decision time and time again was protect Claire,

808
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: protect this season for her, let her promos run. I

809
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: want her to feel like she has as much of

810
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: this experience as possible. And when I say it was

811
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: a Claire, I mean until it wasn't it really was

812
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 1: for Claire. Yeah, we started making arrangements just in case

813
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: something went absolutely bonkers, which it did, but it was

814
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: still about Claire, facilitating her relationship, making sure she was happy,

815
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: making sure she got engaged, pushing pause, creating this bizarre

816
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: moment in relationship with Dale, and then it can become

817
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: about Tatia and moving on. But up until that moment,

818
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 1: I I would beg to differ that it wasn't a

819
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 1: about Claire. I mean maybe you could argue as because yeah,

820
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: we started looking towards the future of what do we

821
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: do with this television show because we also have to

822
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 1: deliver ten or thirteen episodes to ABC and we have four,

823
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: uh so we need a little bit more TV. We

824
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: have eight eight times doce we have sixteen hours. We

825
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: still need to deliver to ABC or else I'm getting fired. Um.

826
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: And so yeah, we had to look down the road

827
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: a little bit. But I fully stand behind the fact

828
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: that I poured my heart and soul into Claire right

829
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: up until the time I knew it was okay, not

830
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: too That makes sense now that does that clarifies it? Um? Clarify? Yeah,

831
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't can't. You can't get away

832
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: from it. I can't get away from it. Um, let's

833
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 1: take a break here from the show. I know Ashley

834
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: has a few more questions to ask about this episode

835
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: and where we're going. But we did see a proposal.

836
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: I am in aged um as well. And Uh, with

837
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: those two things combined, I have chosen to get a

838
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: manly band, uh for my wedding ring, which I'm super

839
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: pumped about. I've gone through a couple of options. In fact,

840
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: it's interesting I was going to get one tattooed on

841
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: my hand. I still might, um, just for golf and

842
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: for you know, whatever you do. And I and Jess

843
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: and I were trying to figure out what we're gonna

844
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: do about having a wedding ring. Well, I see Chris

845
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: come out with this ring set uh and this partnership. Uh.

846
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: He reaches out kindly enough says, hey, you know, are

847
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: you interested? I'm gonna I'm choosing to because I love him. Uh. Chris,

848
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: before we jump back into the show, tell us what

849
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 1: mainly Bands is. Why you chose to do it with

850
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: manly bands where this is gone? It's really cool. I

851
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: love stories like this again. It's a little bit like

852
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: the Batchlor. It's just a great love story that happened

853
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: in this this weird meeting where the folks are mainly bands.

854
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: It's this true, kind of great American story of this

855
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: husband and wife that we're getting married. He's a big dude.

856
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: No rings fit him. There was no variety because there

857
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 1: really isn't variety for men. And they decided to create

858
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: a company. And this husband and wife created a ring

859
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: company called Mainly Bands, and now it's this massive success.

860
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: And they came to me and said, hey, will you

861
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 1: help us with some promo videos. You're kind of the

862
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: master of love and matchmaking. We'd love to kind of

863
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: promote our brand. And like any company, before I do anything,

864
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 1: I get to know them. I want to know what

865
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: they're all about and what they represent and I fell

866
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: in love with them and I said, hey, can we

867
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: do something more substantial than some silly videos? And they

868
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: said what do you have in mind? And I said,

869
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: I don't know. We started talking and now this is

870
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: what's happened, is this collaboration where I have my own

871
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: wedding ring collection and we we dove in came up

872
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: with this amazing variety of materials and rings and looks

873
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: and feels and you know, you've seen them, Ben, And

874
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: the main thing for me is and I've been married before,

875
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: and I think the wrong ring is was the main

876
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: cause of my implored But in all seriousness, there there's

877
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: really no variety. And so what I love is you

878
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: look through this collection and you find your personality, you

879
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: find a ring that speaks to you, Um, you know,

880
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 1: actually you and you and Jared, you know, go through

881
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: this and it's like, Okay, there's silver, there's gold. There's

882
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: really not a whole lot there. And so I love

883
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: the fact that you can find something that has wine

884
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 1: barrel in it, or something that has diamonds, or something

885
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: that has meteorite or dinosaur bones, something a little country,

886
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: a little rocket rolled. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Dinosaur bones.

887
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: I it's I. I have to hear about this dinosaur

888
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: bones because I saw on the website. Are they like,

889
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: where do you Yeah, where do you dinosaurs? This is

890
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: the weird part. I have to sneak into the Museum

891
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: of History at night. Yeah, you know, it's crazy. So

892
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: there are and this is the things you learned. There

893
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 1: are bones that people have unearthed, uh, that are just

894
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: too small to display. They're too small to fit on

895
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: anything in a museum. I mean tiny, tiny bones that

896
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: are never going to be used. And so they say

897
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: or they donate these bones and they're too small to

898
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: do anything with but as far as a museum, but

899
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: plenty to use in bits of rings and other materials.

900
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: And so we take these bones and we you know,

901
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 1: repurpose them. You know what's cool is we have meteorite

902
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: and we have dinosaur bones. So the thing that dinosaurs,

903
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 1: it's all full circle. It's this weird dark but yeah,

904
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: so there's some really cool different materials and looks, and

905
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: you know, I wouldn't be opposed to, you know, having

906
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 1: several rings, you know, like you know, I don't know

907
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: what look ash. I would never say, wear the same

908
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: dress and the same purse. Every single day of your life.

909
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you want to dress up sometimes, you know,

910
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: like you look like Ben does now and your casual

911
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, you just want to be bopping

912
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,479
Speaker 1: around and the cool thing is to have been. First

913
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: of all, we send you a ring sizing things, so

914
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: you you size, you know exactly what size to tell us.

915
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: But we also send you the silicone ring um that

916
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: you get to keep, and so you could take your

917
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: ring off like I had to when you play golf

918
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: because it hurts, And it's this cool silicone band that

919
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: you can put on so you don't have to permanently

920
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: tattoo anything to you. But it doesn't hurt when you're

921
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: playing sports, working out any of that stuff. So it's

922
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: it's kind of a cool thing you can slip on.

923
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: This is a great I mean, this is such a

924
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: good idea because you're right there. I mean, Ashley, you're married.

925
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 1: I'm on my way to there. When Jared is picking

926
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: out a ring, there isn't a plethora of choices up

927
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: until something like this. That's so true, No, I mean,

928
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: that's really how sentimental is Jared's ring. Can we can

929
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: we get him to switch? Can we get him a ring.

930
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: He'd be down to get get one that he could

931
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: like play sports, lift, weights in and stuff like that.

932
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: But I want to be like a number twelve Tom

933
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: Brady ring. Yeah, I mean, can you get him a

934
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: super Bowl ring he'll wear on his left finger? That

935
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: would he loved that? Yeah, be engraved like inside, Yeah, absolutely,

936
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: when you're it's really cool. It's something I got really

937
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: excited about. I'm really proud of it people that have

938
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: found it already. It's been a huge, huge success that

939
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: people are falling in love with and the quality of

940
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: these rings are awesome. And by the way, this Friday

941
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: is Black Friday and so um, massive sales on if

942
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:19,720
Speaker 1: you go to the site. So go to mainly bands

943
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: dot com. If you're ever gonna do it, do it

944
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: this week because there's massive deals weeks Black Friday. What

945
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 1: do you mean, I'm so confused. We're starting We're starting

946
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 1: Friday sale. Yeah, it's mainly Bands Black Friday sale. Okay,

947
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: So before we go back in, I know Ashley's itching

948
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: right now. She's itching, like literally itching to ask you

949
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: more questions about this episode. Um, where can people find

950
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: mainly bands? Uh? And uh? And then we can move on.

951
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: But the coolest thing is you don't ever have to

952
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: leave your house, which is kind of important these days.

953
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: There's no brick border, you're not going to a store online.

954
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: You pick the ring you want, we send you the

955
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: ring size or you get this cool thing and you

956
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: size exactly what you want size of your ring, and

957
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: then you tell us and then we ship it out

958
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: to you, so you never leave your house. Everything fits perfectly. Um,

959
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: money back, you know, you know, you get your life

960
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: lifetime guarantee on the ring, so anything goes wrong or

961
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: doesn't fit, we'll fix it, um and you're gonna absolutely

962
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: love it. So it's I mean, it couldn't be easier. Um,

963
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: you know. And look, guys, we're not complicated, but we're

964
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: also not smart, so we we've done this down. We

965
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: make it as easy as possible. No matter what you're

966
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: what you're there's a ring for you as far as

967
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 1: there's none of them are crazy, crazy prices and so

968
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: it's very affordable. You can find a ring, and if

969
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 1: for some reason there's nothing in my collection, just go

970
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: to Mainly Bands too, because you're on that website and

971
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 1: there's a thousand other rings to choose from. Sweet man Hey,

972
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 1: Manly bands dot com is there where we go? Yep,

973
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: go to mainly bands dot com and look for the

974
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: Chris Harrison collection, look for my pretty face. Awesome things. Appreciate.

975
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: We talked about your pretty face for a second. Why

976
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: are you getting so much better looking with age? Like

977
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: you've always been a handsome man, but it's like you're

978
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: taking handsome pills or something, because like you get hotter

979
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: every season. First of all, thank you. I'm glad you're

980
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: saying that instead of Ben. But that's you know, that's

981
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 1: all Gina Modica. Uh, she's she's my secret weapon. Geane

982
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: has been with me for god over twenty years now.

983
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: She's my he's my longest relationship. Yeah, Gene is my

984
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 1: is my makeup artist, and I am so thankful that

985
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: she started. She's like, you know, my the big sister

986
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 1: that I probably never needed um and she just you know,

987
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: has beaten me for the last twenty years of wearing sunscreen,

988
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: taking care of myself, all the things that you know, moisturizing,

989
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 1: and she's introduced me to these great products and things

990
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 1: and so luckily obviously good DNA, good genetics, thank God

991
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: for my mom and dad. But she's taking care of

992
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: me over the last twenty years and so you know,

993
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: but what I do laugh about is I never shoot

994
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: in the same studio, so I guess my hair looks

995
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: different from time to time. It'll be darker or lighter

996
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: or whatever. People like, oh, nice spray job, dude, he's

997
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 1: up on the paint or whatever. I'm like, guys like

998
00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: you guys, are you guys have been near me enough

999
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: to know there's plenty of gray up. Yeah, yeah, well

1000
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: it's I think I like you when you're scruffy and

1001
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: you have like you're dressed down. So you had those

1002
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: conversations a lot during this episode, so I was I

1003
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: was like on the phone with my mom. I was like,

1004
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: why is Chris Harrison keep getting better looking? And then

1005
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: Jared in the background goes, it's true, he's getting better looking.

1006
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: So it's not just me Jared. By the way, when

1007
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 1: you're in the desert and it's a eighty degrees, that's

1008
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: really good. You're really god. Okay, but let's go back

1009
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: to proposals now. So she gets a gorgeous ring. It

1010
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: was a beautiful proposal, and I know how you're going

1011
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: to answer this question. But like during their dinner conversation,

1012
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: and during like their little sleepover, I was like, I

1013
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: feel it. I totally feel it. I love this. Um,

1014
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 1: this is so crazy that this is happening so quickly.

1015
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: But then like when you're like, okay, it's time to propose, now,

1016
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: I was like, now this is wild, this is ridiculous.

1017
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: That's where it crossed over to like, this is ridiculous

1018
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 1: to me. But in bachelor fashion, that's the way we

1019
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 1: have to end it, right, that's where we go. Well,

1020
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 1: you don't have to you know again, you have to

1021
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: understand that was just the point where we were. What

1022
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: you decide to do with it is up to you.

1023
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: And that's always the fascinating thing with this show is

1024
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:26,439
Speaker 1: you push people out of their comfort zone. You push

1025
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 1: them to to these decisions and these crossroads, and you know,

1026
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: given you know, your own leisure whatever, you could just

1027
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 1: go on forever. But when it gets down to Claire

1028
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 1: and Dale as a show, we said, okay, now what

1029
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: and so we took the next night, that night and

1030
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 1: the next day, and we were talking about it if like, well,

1031
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 1: I mean, we're not just gonna watch Claire and Dale

1032
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 1: go to the movies every night. We were at the

1033
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 1: point where after after this moment in the show, there

1034
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: is a decision to be made. What do you guys

1035
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 1: want to do? And it was very clear the more

1036
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: we talked to him, they head over heels and love

1037
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 1: and so we proposed the idea of them proposing, and

1038
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: Dale said, sure, I'm in I love this woman, Let's

1039
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: do this. So that's where we ended up, and it

1040
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 1: was it was a bizarre. It was a bizarre level

1041
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: to get to because it was so extreme, but that's

1042
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: where they were, That's how extreme it was. And so

1043
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: when you saw that proposal, it all felt to me.

1044
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: It felt lovely, and it felt wild, and it felt

1045
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: again unprecedented. Um, it was. It was very interesting to watch.

1046
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: I agree. Once it happened, I was like, okay, yeah,

1047
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: that's right, all right, let's look. I'm so happy for them.

1048
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: This is great. But it was like the lead up

1049
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 1: to like, wait, oh my gosh, these people have known

1050
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: each other for ten days? Can we confirm or deny?

1051
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 1: Has it? It was it about ten days? I think

1052
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: it was longer than that, but it wasn't much more

1053
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: than that. Um, you know, probably too, you know, twelve

1054
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: or fourteen or something like that at that point, you know,

1055
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: because There were days off too. We took you know,

1056
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 1: we're working to take days off, but there were days

1057
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: where we had to stop and say, okay, what are

1058
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: we doing? Where do we go from here? Because again,

1059
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: it's just it's hard to explain how we are trapped

1060
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: in a bubble. And it's not like we could just

1061
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:13,399
Speaker 1: you know, maneuver and move things in and change dates around.

1062
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: We were pretty confined trying to figure this out. Um.

1063
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: So there was there was a lot of work and

1064
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: meetings and stuff that had to happen um and then

1065
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,720
Speaker 1: people are being consulted outside, whether it's you know, Rob Mills,

1066
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: Mike Flice and Martin Hilt all these people that weren't

1067
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: in the bubble. We were having to you know, try

1068
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 1: and consult and they're trying to comprehend what is going on,

1069
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: you know, inside this bubble because for them to get

1070
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: in takes you know what, five six days, and so

1071
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: it wasn't just where you could just swing by and

1072
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 1: see what was happening. So there was a lot of

1073
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 1: moving parts to get to that moment that we made

1074
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 1: look pretty smooth. And there was no hesitation on Dale's

1075
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: Park none, I mean not to me anyway. You know.

1076
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 1: I don't know if you said something to anybody else,

1077
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: but every time I talked to him, he looked me

1078
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,280
Speaker 1: straight in the eye and said, I love this girl.

1079
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: I'm all in. I said, okay, great, well, let me

1080
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: call Neil Lane and we had to you know, I'm

1081
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:09,399
Speaker 1: calling Neil Lane, who I face timed him. I didn't

1082
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: know if they would even use that, but they did.

1083
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 1: My Neil, Um, I need a ring. And this is

1084
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: again talk about a fortuitous balance. If we weren't where

1085
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 1: we were, which was a two hour drive from l A.

1086
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: We actually had to have a ring driven out to

1087
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: the property and dropped off at production because we didn't

1088
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 1: have a ring. Why would we It was two three

1089
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 1: weeks into production. Okay, So watching this engagement, I may

1090
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: get flag for saying this, but oh well, um and

1091
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: made me kind of annoyed that Claire accepted ben Wah's engagement,

1092
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: because I just feel like that was so premature and

1093
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 1: I feel like, personally, in my opinion, she accepted his

1094
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: proposal on that stage because he didn't. She didn't want

1095
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: to embarrass him, and um, and I don't know, I

1096
00:55:55,719 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: think that's I think that not complete leave wrong, maybe,

1097
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 1: but not completely fair in that I would stay knowing

1098
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 1: clear like I do now. I think she wanted something

1099
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: so bad. Yeah, you know how you want something so

1100
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 1: bad that you're able to kind of look past a

1101
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: lot of hurdles and red flags and and you just

1102
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 1: you want it so bad that you just kind of

1103
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: manifested like she had hoped for it. She was like,

1104
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: this may not feel right now, but like I'm going

1105
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 1: to go for it and give it a go. Yeah.

1106
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you've ever been in a relationship.

1107
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: I think we all have at some point if you

1108
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: get mature enough in your life where you have entered

1109
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: into a relationship. Maybe it's not a proposal, but you've

1110
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: entered into a relationship. You're like, this isn't but like,

1111
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: I think maybe I could make it work. I could

1112
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: maybe change him, or I can look past this, and

1113
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: and then later and then later you look back down

1114
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: the road, you're like, what the hell was I thinking? Um,

1115
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: not that Ben was a bad guy or it was

1116
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: a mistake, but clearly they were two different people heading

1117
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 1: two different directions and it wasn't going to work. And

1118
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 1: it's easy to say in hindsight, but I think she

1119
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:06,280
Speaker 1: just really wanted love and wanted to be loved so

1120
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: bad that she just I think she was willing to

1121
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,839
Speaker 1: look past a lot of those red flags and make

1122
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 1: it work and make it happen, makes the fairy tale.

1123
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: That's not my place to say that, Like, you know, whatever,

1124
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: it's like if Claire Claire makes her decisions, and I'm

1125
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: not saying that that takes away from this moment, but

1126
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: I think that this moment felt so much more full

1127
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: of love and real and and to me too by

1128
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: you know, I will defend Claire and I will defend

1129
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 1: this decision and everything we did because at the end

1130
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: of the day, look, is it gonna work out with

1131
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: Clarien Dale who knows? Who knows? Is it gonna work

1132
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: out with Ashley and Jared? Who knows? You know? You know,

1133
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: it's easy to say, as someone who's sitting here with

1134
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:50,919
Speaker 1: her hand up of a relationship that didn't work out,

1135
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 1: It's easy to say something's not gonna work because guess

1136
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: what odds are it's not. Love is hard, and Ben's

1137
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: been in the same boat. It's hard, it it's difficult,

1138
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: and it often doesn't. But when it does work, and

1139
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: when you see something beautiful, why not support it and

1140
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: just love it and give it a chance, because you know,

1141
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: nine times at a ten it may fail. But um,

1142
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: it felt great. I love them in that moment, and

1143
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: I felt like there was love there, so I'm there

1144
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: to support it. You know, it's so easy to sit

1145
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: back and go, this is crazy your mind. You guys

1146
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 1: did this. She did this. It's like, who cares? Like,

1147
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: there're there. Let's let's just send him some love right

1148
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: now before we wrap this up, and I know we

1149
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: we do. I have to just mentioned that I think

1150
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: that this episode really solidifies the fact that these two

1151
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 1: did not talk before the airing of the show. I

1152
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: mean before they can we talk about this? Um, I

1153
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: am only is as good as my eyes and heart

1154
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: tells me to be, and I only can say things

1155
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 1: with the information I have at the moment. And I

1156
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: can't tell you how many conversations I've had with Claire

1157
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: and a few with Dale, but mostly with Claire because

1158
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: I'm just more intimate with her on the show, And

1159
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: to my eyes, I don't think they did. I truly

1160
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 1: don't think they talked. There was there were several moments

1161
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 1: and I went back and watched and remembered that first

1162
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: night because I had immediate suspicions. But the way they

1163
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 1: introduced each other, the conversations they had, and you guys

1164
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 1: didn't see at all. You only saw parts of obviously

1165
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: what we air. But nothing felt familiar to me, Nothing

1166
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: felt rehearsed. It didn't feel like they were faking it, like, hey,

1167
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:38,479
Speaker 1: remember you don't know me. Um. There was just these

1168
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: basic questions that they asked that I don't think they

1169
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 1: you know, this isn't Meryl Streep and Tom Cruiser, Daniel

1170
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: bid Lewis. They're not that brilliant. They would have tripped up.

1171
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 1: And there were just things that happened that lead me

1172
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: to believe she did look him up on social media.

1173
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: She she totally has owned that she looked at a

1174
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: lot of those guys. She had great expectations, She built

1175
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: him up in her head. She went in with almost

1176
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: kind of like a celebrity crush on him. But I

1177
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: think that that's it. Yeah, I think I think she

1178
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: wanted to love him. I think she wanted him to

1179
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: smell good and be tall, dark and handsome, and and

1180
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: he was. He was all those things. And as soon

1181
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:17,919
Speaker 1: as she saw that smile and no joke smelled him Um,

1182
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: sniffing his pants was a whole different level. But that

1183
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 1: was weird And Dianna I have a problem with Dianna

1184
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 1: for being an you know, an enabler and that. But no,

1185
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 1: I I I just want to put that to rest.

1186
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: And again, I'm not saying I'm a accurate this is

1187
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 1: just my opinion. That's it. Chris's final question for you.

1188
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 1: Thanks for spending some time with us. Thanks for hanging

1189
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 1: out with us. It's been an awesome, awesome experience, and

1190
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: it's always good to catch up with you, especially about

1191
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: the show and then about life. Where do we go

1192
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 1: from here? We have a bunch of guys still sitting there.

1193
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 1: What are your hopes for them? Uh? You know obviously

1194
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 1: how this plays out. But if this, if you can

1195
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 1: go backtrack to this night, on that day when you

1196
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: can front the boys again and you bring Tatia in,

1197
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 1: what were you thinking, what you're hoping for? Um, this

1198
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 1: is actually the first time I actually excitedly get to

1199
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 1: speak about Tasha, Who's who, as you guys know, is

1200
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 1: a very dear friend of mine. I've gotten to know

1201
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 1: her for a couple of years now and I absolutely

1202
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 1: adore her. I think she is a fantastic woman. Obviously

1203
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 1: stunningly beautiful, but she is so kind and giving and

1204
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: just sweet and down to earth. Um, it just has

1205
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: such balance about her and this this this great energy,

1206
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 1: She's this type of person you just want to be around.

1207
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 1: So I'm really excited. I it's not that Claire shouldn't

1208
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 1: have been the bachelrette, and stop saying that, you know,

1209
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 1: this doesn't This isn't an either or proposition. Taste is

1210
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: just someone who I wanted to be the bachelorette. I

1211
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 1: fought for her. I wanted her to be on our list,

1212
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 1: and she was, and as soon as we had the

1213
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 1: chance to have another one, Um, I was so excited

1214
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 1: when we all decided she was it. And and and

1215
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 1: it's not that we didn't talk about other people, but

1216
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 1: I can promise you the list, there was Tasha, and

1217
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 1: then there was the rest. We really wanted it to

1218
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: be Tasia, and I'm glad that she came in and

1219
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 1: because I knew that she And also, let me just

1220
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 1: say something else when I say the guys, I feel

1221
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: like these guys were cheated in a certain way. Doesn't

1222
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 1: mean Claire screwed them over. Claire just found love. And

1223
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 1: so I just this is a great group of guys.

1224
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 1: I and I don't know if we've ever had this great,

1225
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: solid group before, which is strong, professional, mature, good dudes.

1226
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 1: And I didn't want to waste this group of guys.

1227
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 1: And so you know, people like, oh, you're reusing them

1228
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 1: or repurposing him, and like these guys haven't found love yet?

1229
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 1: Why not? This is an awesome, awesome group of guys,

1230
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 1: And so I was excited to have Tasia meet this

1231
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,479
Speaker 1: group and bring them together. I thought there was gonna

1232
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 1: be some perfect fits in here. So I was it

1233
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 1: was bizarre to all of a sudden have gone through

1234
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 1: the craziest moments in my career and then start over

1235
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 1: and have a Limo pull up. It was just like,

1236
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 1: what are we doing? It felt so bizarre to me too.

1237
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 1: Then reset and we start. I can't begin to tell

1238
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 1: you how odd it was. But I was excited and

1239
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 1: I was so happy to see her, And it was

1240
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 1: kind of a weird conversation when she got out, it

1241
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 1: was you could tell it was kind of a couple

1242
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 1: of friends talking is It was this kind of weird

1243
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 1: moment of like, what are we doing here? Really weird?

1244
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 1: And obviously, starting next week, you're going to see the

1245
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: rest of where it goes from here and now it's

1246
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 1: all about tation, It's all about her journey. Although we

1247
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 1: will check in and keep you up to date on

1248
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:24,919
Speaker 1: what's going on with Claire and Dale. What I think

1249
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 1: is cool, or at least what my hope is is

1250
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 1: that this season was very like Fateful, whereas there were

1251
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 1: two women in the franchise who had their future husband's

1252
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 1: in that group and they were meant to both be there.

1253
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 1: I hope so. And and you know, I do want

1254
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: to say one thing before I go, and and that

1255
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 1: is I would ask everybody to just take it easy

1256
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 1: on Claire. Um, she is getting beat up and torn

1257
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 1: up in social media. And I get it. Social media,

1258
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 1: especially Twitter is an absolute just waste basket. You know.

1259
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 1: It's the vocal my milority people that want to troll

1260
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 1: you and scream and yell whatever. And so I get it.

1261
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 1: You can ignore what's on Twitter, but people are going

1262
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 1: after her and it's not deserved. You know, this woman

1263
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 1: has done nothing wrong. There's nothing, there's nothing that Claire

1264
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 1: has done that deserves anger in her to be vilified. Um,

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01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: if you don't agree how she did it, if you

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01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 1: don't agree how she treated the guys. I get that,

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01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 1: and the guys were frustrated, and I was frustrated at

1268
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 1: times too, But at no point was I mad that

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01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 1: this woman fell in love. Think about what you're mad at.

1270
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:36,959
Speaker 1: Who are you really mad at? Why are you mad

1271
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 1: that this woman found the love of her life and

1272
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 1: got engaged. If that's when you're pissed at, you need

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01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 1: to really reassess your life. Um. And so I just

1274
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 1: would ask everybody to have a little grace and little understanding,

1275
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 1: and let's support Claire. Let's support Dale, and let's see

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01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 1: what happens. And now let's also Supportation as our backs

1277
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 1: are atte. I just I've just seen a lot of

1278
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 1: anger and a lot of just things being spewed right now,

1279
01:04:57,880 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 1: and it just kind of upsets me and and Claire

1280
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 1: to it's this stuff too. Heart. I know that, especially

1281
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 1: our female leads, tend to really lean into social media

1282
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 1: a lot more than the guys do. Um. And it

1283
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 1: just it breaks my heart when I see Caitlin, when

1284
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 1: I say, well, Ash, you've had it to you and

1285
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 1: you know it just it drives me crazy. And I

1286
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 1: know that they've opened up their lives to social media.

1287
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 1: They've opened up their lives and agreed to be on TV,

1288
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 1: but nobody signs up for that. Um, if you want

1289
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 1: to be frustrated, if you want to voice your opinion,

1290
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 1: God bless you, you are welcome to it. But just

1291
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 1: think about it, think about drawing that line of where

1292
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 1: you're going, Chris, you're the man? Um, Okay, before they go,

1293
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 1: should be still tun infortatious season? Yes or no? No? No,

1294
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 1: I would turn it off now. I do. Let people

1295
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 1: that have said this is the worst season ever. Man,

1296
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 1: you suck, You're the worst, And I'm like, well, record

1297
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 1: ratings tells me different. We have had two of the

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01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 1: highest rated episodes. Uh, I think since last week was

1299
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen. This week even higher. So um, something

1300
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: tells me you're gonna be back. And the cool thing

1301
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 1: is Tastia's journey is totally different. It really is same.

1302
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 1: You know a lot of the same guys. Um, obviously,

1303
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 1: maybe you'll see some of the same guy spoiler alert, Um,

1304
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 1: well you've already seen him sitting there, but maybe not

1305
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 1: all the same guys. And so it's it's pretty interesting

1306
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 1: to see where this journey goes. Because again, Claire is

1307
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 1: not Tastia. Tastie is not Claire that everybody is different.

1308
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 1: They bring their own personality to this. Thank you did

1309
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 1: you just do you just hear that say thank you

1310
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 1: for clarifying? Yeah, thank you, thank you, Claire. Chris is

1311
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 1: the best. I love him. You feel like he'd be

1312
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 1: tired about talking about the friend chies, but when you

1313
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 1: ask him questions, he rolls. He loves it. Yeah, you do.

1314
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 1: Like I always used to think that Chris probably like

1315
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 1: was like, I'm just sick of this thing. I don't

1316
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 1: want to talk about it anymore. But then given the

1317
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 1: right circumstances, like giving him the environment to which you know,

1318
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 1: you ask him not the typical questions, but different questions,

1319
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 1: and you hear it a lot more now than ever,

1320
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 1: with different podcasts, not just ours. He really enjoys it.

1321
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 1: And you know what, Chris is getting more and more

1322
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 1: into as he gets more and more comfortable, which you

1323
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 1: know he's twenty years in. He really enjoys talking about

1324
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 1: the just the amazing team behind the scenes, Like he

1325
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 1: loves talking about the production, the cameras, the people helping out.

1326
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 1: I think he's just super grateful that they've helped him

1327
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 1: have a job for this long. Yeah, it's such a

1328
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 1: great family. I wish you guys could could know them.

1329
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 1: On the other side, I really wish that we can

1330
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 1: interview some producers, but I know that's probably not allowed.

1331
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 1: But they're great people. Um, all right, well you guys,

1332
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 1: we have some topics. Uh. First, starting with Claire wearing

1333
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 1: the massive engagement ring the day that her final episode aired, Ben,

1334
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 1: did you see this yesterday? I did. It's a big deal.

1335
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 1: I felt like maybe it was sort of like a

1336
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 1: commercial for watching the episode. With the election and everything,

1337
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 1: like maybe people's minds weren't all on the fact that

1338
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 1: there was going to be a Bachelorrette episode airing on

1339
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 1: a Thursday, and then the ring was kind of like

1340
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:32,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put my ring on and remind everyone that

1341
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:37,799
Speaker 1: the that possibly the engagement episode of tonight. It's, uh,

1342
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 1: you know what's going on. I think she's super happy,

1343
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 1: and I think she's probably waited for this. I imagine

1344
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 1: right now that Claire is just like I want to

1345
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 1: be done with the criticism, the hate and move on

1346
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 1: with Dale and make this thing work. Um. In fact,

1347
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 1: we saw them on Instagram Live last night and I

1348
01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 1: thought it was really cute. I thought it was a

1349
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 1: great way for them to kind of, you know, uh,

1350
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 1: announced themselves to the world. I agree. And yeah, Claire

1351
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 1: just she just she looks great with that ring on.

1352
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 1: It fits. I feel great about it. Yeah. Um, I'm

1353
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 1: just excited for them. I can't wait to watch more

1354
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 1: of the relationship. Like I hate, I hate that there's

1355
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 1: pressure for them to have to like show it off

1356
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:26,599
Speaker 1: on social media, But I have to say I'm very

1357
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:29,640
Speaker 1: excited to see that and get to know their relationship

1358
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:32,639
Speaker 1: more since we did have a few episodes. Yeah, it's right.

1359
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 1: And uh as Chris Harrison intervention, you know, somebody literally

1360
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 1: had to drive down um to deliver this ring. That's hilarious.

1361
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 1: It's gorgeous. Next headline is it was announced this week

1362
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 1: that Cassie Randolph dropped the restraining order against Colton Underwood. Well,

1363
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 1: we also know now that Colton Underwood has taken down

1364
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:54,599
Speaker 1: all of his Instagram posts, like all of them. Actually,

1365
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 1: what do we know? That's really all we know. Um,

1366
01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:02,640
Speaker 1: he still got to two million and followers, but zero posts.

1367
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 1: I know that sometimes celebrities will do this, that they're

1368
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 1: about to launch something when they want a fresh start.

1369
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 1: I mean, it seems like Colton would want to fresh start,

1370
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 1: so he wiped his page clean of all pictures, not

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01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:17,879
Speaker 1: just ones of Cassie. When I saw this headline yesterday,

1372
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 1: I thought, oh, yeah, he deleted the pictures of Cassie,

1373
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 1: but no, just clean, no pictures from any time in

1374
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,879
Speaker 1: his life. Though there are no posts on the account,

1375
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 1: his page is not the activated, it's just there's no

1376
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:36,560
Speaker 1: post all right. Next headline, Bachelor's Ti Era is engaged

1377
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 1: to Tyler Brooks Brown, seven years after controversial stint on

1378
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 1: Sean Lowe's season. Yes, if you guys remember back in

1379
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 1: June when we were doing coverage of Sean Lowe's Goat episode,

1380
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 1: we tried to track down Tierra Um. Apparently no one

1381
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 1: has been in touch with her from her season or

1382
01:10:56,760 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 1: in the Bachelor community since Sean season. But here she

1383
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 1: is on Instagram announcing on Wednesday that she got engaged.

1384
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:12,759
Speaker 1: Um in Tuloom, Mexico, the place of the first Bachelor

1385
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 1: in Paradise and his name is Tyler Brooks and Um

1386
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 1: she was. She was surrounded by red rose petals ironically

1387
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 1: at the time of the engagement, and it was like

1388
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 1: in a TP like structure. Seems eerily Bachelor esque. Hey,

1389
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 1: good for her though. We celebrate that. But that is

1390
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:39,680
Speaker 1: the big headlines here is engaged now. The next one

1391
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 1: is something we talked to Chris quite a bit about.

1392
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:43,680
Speaker 1: We took a long segment just talking about something cool

1393
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 1: that he's been up to. Not only is he a

1394
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 1: host of a show, but he also has a collection

1395
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:52,640
Speaker 1: of manly bands wedding rings. They're pretty awesome. So if

1396
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 1: you're out there you're thinking about getting engaged and your

1397
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 1: man uh doesn't know kind of what he's looking for,

1398
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 1: hasn't found a ring he enjoys. I've been on Mainly

1399
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 1: Band's website. They're really awesome. As Chris said again, if

1400
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 1: you want to hear more about that, we talked to

1401
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 1: Chris to a long extent about it during his segment. Well, Ben,

1402
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 1: do we wrap up this episode with another story time

1403
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:21,719
Speaker 1: with Ben flying through these? Okay? Ben, um? The next

1404
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 1: story is one of those ones that you've teased to

1405
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 1: be intimate. I believe the time I had to sit

1406
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 1: out of my senior year homecoming football game due to

1407
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:38,759
Speaker 1: a severe case of jocketch and the local papers headlot

1408
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 1: in the local headline read Ben Higgins sits out of

1409
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:47,680
Speaker 1: game due to severe rash. Oh my god, Ben, this

1410
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 1: is the last story that I copied and pasted, is

1411
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:54,840
Speaker 1: it really? Yeah? That's sad. Well I have one more

1412
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 1: um that will share next week. But yeah, that I

1413
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 1: think we're down in the final two. This is really

1414
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 1: good story actually, and it might give a sense a

1415
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:05,600
Speaker 1: little bit more to why when I tell you or

1416
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 1: I I announced publicly like hey, I've always been a

1417
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 1: little insecure. Um that, like this really hints at Okay,

1418
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 1: so here's the deal. We gave a little background. This

1419
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:18,640
Speaker 1: is one of the most interesting stories, and and the

1420
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:21,879
Speaker 1: headline in the book doesn't really fully encompassed the whole

1421
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:27,680
Speaker 1: story itself. Um. So I was the quarterback on my

1422
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 1: high school football team, I mean ow um, and I

1423
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 1: was able to play as a freshman. Luckily, a couple

1424
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 1: of guys got hurt. So it wasn't because I was good.

1425
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 1: It was just because I was alive for freshman and

1426
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:44,680
Speaker 1: the quarterback of the varsity team. Who are you and

1427
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 1: why have you ever felt insecure? You're like a hometown dream. Well,

1428
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 1: when three guys get hurt and you're pretty average, it

1429
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 1: pretty it hurts you pretty bad. Um. So I'm I'm

1430
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 1: so I'm playing football I really want to play in college. Um.

1431
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 1: Then junior year, I blew out my knee completely and

1432
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 1: it kind of like changed my path because I was

1433
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 1: just no longer as good or as fast, or at

1434
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:08,680
Speaker 1: all as athletic as I once was. And so I

1435
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 1: had to come to terms that, hey, I'm gonna still

1436
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:11,799
Speaker 1: play football in my my senior year, but I gotta expect

1437
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 1: to not be as good as I ever was hoping

1438
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 1: to be. And I had to mentally get to this point. Well,

1439
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 1: so I was always kind of walking this line of

1440
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 1: trying to prove to myself that I could still play

1441
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 1: and I still want to put together a good season

1442
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 1: so that I would feel like, hey, all this work

1443
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 1: for all of these years have led up to something

1444
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 1: um positive. Uh. And I carried that weight. I wanted

1445
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 1: to be the best for really my confidence, for myself

1446
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:39,599
Speaker 1: and for my for the team. Well, um, it gets

1447
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:41,680
Speaker 1: to be homecoming. And our football team was pretty good.

1448
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:44,599
Speaker 1: We had a good run going. We had won a

1449
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 1: lot of games. And in a in a football this

1450
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 1: is gonna get pretty graphic. And so just if you

1451
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 1: if you get grossed out or if you don't want

1452
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 1: to look at me in this way, just like turning

1453
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 1: this off. Now, it's no big deal anything, but um,

1454
01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 1: in a football locker room, a lot of guys you

1455
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 1: know obviously sit naked and change and like put on

1456
01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 1: their clothes, whether you sit on these like concrete benches,

1457
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 1: uh that are kind of in front of your locker. Well,

1458
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 1: I had sat down one day, I guess, and I

1459
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 1: had gotten some type of um like it's called it's

1460
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 1: called a fistula. Quite honestly, an official is like a

1461
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:21,439
Speaker 1: really bad bacteria that like eats into your body and

1462
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 1: it eats, it eats, like it tunnels a hole in

1463
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 1: your body, um for whatever kind of it touches. So

1464
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 1: I had this fishula that is, and if anybody out

1465
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 1: there knows what official is, like they're gross and they're

1466
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 1: really bad and like they hurt really really bad. And

1467
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 1: so I got it right where you sit down, Like

1468
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 1: it wasn't it wasn't. It wasn't jockey, that's the thing.

1469
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 1: It wasn't jockets at all. Um, But like people don't

1470
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 1: know what fishulas are, so I put jockets in the book.

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Speaker 1: But so I got this fishul up. It takes me

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Speaker 1: weeks of trying to get rid of it, like tons

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Speaker 1: of doctors appointments. Um, in fact, I had surgery, like

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01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:01,639
Speaker 1: to cut cut it, cut it out. They would go, Yeah,

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01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:05,559
Speaker 1: they would take these like um sticks that like uh

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01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 1: with like a silver knight, trade on them and try

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01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 1: to burn it out, like they stick it inside of

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01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 1: the fishila and try to burn out the back. It

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01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:15,400
Speaker 1: was the worst couple of weeks. And I'm still trying

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01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:19,400
Speaker 1: to play on top of all this. Well, finally I

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01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 1: can't take it anymore. Like it's gotten so bad and

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01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 1: it hurts so bad that I can't hardly walk and

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01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 1: there's no way I'm gonna be able to play a

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Speaker 1: football game. And so I have to get that surgery

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Speaker 1: that I just mentioned, and it's about a weak recovery.

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01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 1: So when I get the surgery, I hadn't really told

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01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 1: many people obviously at this point in time, like hey, um,

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01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 1: you know I've got a fishila that I have this.

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01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:41,640
Speaker 1: I told my coaches, but I wasn't like announcing it

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01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 1: publicly by any means. Um, I wasn't really hardly telling

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01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 1: my friends. But I had to wear a diaper because

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01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 1: you're bleeding so much, and so like you have this, yeah,

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01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 1: you have this adult Yeah you want to talk about

1494
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 1: like a confidence kick. You are not only like somebody.

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01:16:58,000 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 1: You know, you're in your senior year, You're the quarter

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01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 1: You're hoping I have a good season. But like now

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Speaker 1: you're wearing a diaper to a football game and you're

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01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 1: you know you're bleeding. Um, yeah, it's rough. I told

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Speaker 1: you this is a graphic. Um. Well, okay. Fast forward

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Speaker 1: to the night of the game. It's a homecoming game. Uh,

1501
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 1: the crowd is packed, and I have to tell my

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01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 1: coaches three days before the game, I can't play because

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01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 1: of this surgery. And they go, I get it, like

1504
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 1: this is pretty bad. We've seen it, like you can't play, um,

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01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 1: And so out of the goodness of their heart, they're like, well,

1506
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 1: we have to obviously tell, like announce why you're not playing,

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01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 1: Like yeah, you you do. And they take it upon themselves.

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01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:41,240
Speaker 1: These are football coaches. This isn't a good pr team

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01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 1: like this team. This these guys, these guys like are

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01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 1: just trying their best to keep some high school kids

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01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 1: running up and down the field. And they tell they

1512
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:52,839
Speaker 1: think the best option is to tell the local paper

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01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 1: and the media, uh that I'm sitting on the game

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01:17:56,640 --> 01:18:00,959
Speaker 1: because I have a rash. And so literally the headline

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01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:05,599
Speaker 1: of the paper reads Tigers win without Ben Higgins who

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01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 1: sat sits out the game because of a severe rash

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01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 1: and jocks. I mean, can you imagine the assumptions. Can

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01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:21,760
Speaker 1: you imagine the jokes from people, your friends, family, like

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01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 1: people who are like reading this headline, going what kind

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01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 1: of rash do you have? Been? Like? How? The best

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Speaker 1: of all the story is how like? What? How severe

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01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:37,720
Speaker 1: is this rash? Um? And I have to defend myself

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01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 1: to something I'm already insecure about that. No, it's not

1524
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 1: a rash. It's actually just like this like bacteria, that's tunnel.

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01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 1: It's way through my butt and it looks worse than ever.

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Speaker 1: Now to close the story off, I did recover. I

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01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 1: did come back and play football. Um, I never I

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01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 1: never walked the hallways in my high school the same again.

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01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 1: And there's another reason for that. Uh. And I'll tell

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01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 1: you that story next week. It's one that might top this.

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01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 1: And it's okay, okay, you know why I didn't put

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01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 1: that on the list. I didn't put that on. I know,

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Speaker 1: I know the story you're about to tell, but I

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01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 1: didn't put on the list because I wasn't worried that

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01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 1: you weren't going to feel comfortable talking about it. Come on, people.

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Speaker 1: The one thing I've learned over my life is that

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Speaker 1: everybody has weird stuff going on. Everybody has um awkward moments.

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01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 1: And if the more I talk about it, it's the

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01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 1: lesson secure I feel, and it's the more other people

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01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:29,600
Speaker 1: maybe out there can be like, oh, yeah, here's a

1541
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 1: funny story I have. I mean, this is our podcast,

1542
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 1: so let's just talk as much as we can. Hey, well,

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01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 1: thanks for asking. This has been a blast. Next week

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01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 1: will be our last story. And uh, and I'm glad

1545
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 1: we've got to know a little bit more about me

1546
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 1: in this whole experience. Well, hey, awesome to have Chris

1547
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 1: Harrison on the podcast. It's always a pleasure to take

1548
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:48,559
Speaker 1: time out of his schedule to come onto this show

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Speaker 1: and give us all the details that he does. Uh.

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Speaker 1: This has been another Almost Famous podcast. We'll be back

1551
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 1: next week for a breakdown of Tastia's season of The Bachelorette.

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01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:00,799
Speaker 1: With that I've Been Been, I've Been Ashley, and I'm

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