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Speaker 3: Everybody, Welcome to Cowboys Crosstalk live of a Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 3: the Star in Frisco. I'm Bobby Belt from one O

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Speaker 3: five through the fan tonight. I'm joined by Tommy Yarish

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Speaker 3: from Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: Tommy.

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Speaker 3: As always, We've got the three time Super Bowl champion

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Speaker 3: and Big Top Pro Bowler, Big Papa b I G

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Speaker 3: P O p p A, Nate Newton is here with

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Speaker 3: us as well, and our guest tonight is a Pro

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Speaker 3: football and College Football Hall of Famer, a five time

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Speaker 3: Pro Bowler, and five time Super Bowl Champion.

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Speaker 2: It is none other than Charles Hayle.

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Speaker 5: You a college Hall of Fame, not in the regular college.

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Speaker 5: I'm in my college hall of Fame, a high school

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Speaker 5: hall of Fame. Man, I'm so in the hall of Fames.

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Speaker 5: Man getting lost in at some time.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 2: He's in the Rig of Honor, He's in the forty

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Speaker 2: nine Ers All Fame. He's everywhere.

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Speaker 5: Charles Hey, Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 6: Hey, what they're gonna do with greatness?

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Speaker 7: But love every hall of fame that it could be in.

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Speaker 8: I just told him, I'm to have a name.

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Speaker 5: Second black person got there.

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Speaker 4: You know about the why you played with.

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Speaker 5: He? I was in there before him. I can tell

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Speaker 5: you that I was there with Clark. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 5: know if he's there or not. Wow, you ain't fighting

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Speaker 5: for him, No, Charles.

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Speaker 2: Has got too much greatness to worry about himself.

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Speaker 6: If we're not going there.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's people you fight for and there's people

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Speaker 5: you don't fight for. Yeah, I'm not fighting for I.

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Speaker 2: Got I got just totally understood.

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Speaker 3: Now, Charles, I want to talk about the time a

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Speaker 3: little bit before h j M you before you got

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Speaker 3: to jam Madison, because you've got a really fascinating backstory

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Speaker 3: just from your upbringing and and the way that you

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Speaker 3: came along. I know you talked about uh years ago.

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Speaker 3: I had read your book that you did, Fear No Evil,

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Speaker 3: that you did with Triumph Books, and you talked about how,

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Speaker 3: you know, you grew up in a very you know,

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Speaker 3: humble upbringing. You're working in tobacco fields. You know you

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Speaker 3: were you didn't even have indoor plumbing.

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Speaker 6: All that you call that humble.

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Speaker 5: That's a person as growing up. Yeah, growing up there

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Speaker 6: You know what, we couldn't expel that other.

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Speaker 5: Oh but you know what, Yeah, everybody in the neighborhood

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Speaker 6: So I didn't know I was poor until I went

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Speaker 5: When I went to college, you know, I had Lee

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Speaker 5: They went to the mall. We went to Hills and

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Speaker 5: km on right, so you know blue Light special.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Now I noticed something though that you you talked about

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Speaker 2: You grew up in uh Euro up in glass.

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Speaker 3: Mister and missus Haley that you talked about how you know,

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Speaker 3: to just a little bit about how how that example

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Speaker 6: Well, my mom and dad was night and day.

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Speaker 5: My dad didn't talk, and my mom talked and she

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Speaker 5: And then his thing is, if you don't bring the

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Speaker 6: Do that job before you come home.

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Speaker 5: And so you know that commitment by him, and just

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Speaker 5: called me by my name, They just called me boy.

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Speaker 5: I went to school. I went to school and I wrote,

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Speaker 5: I wrote down, I wrote down there asking me my name,

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Speaker 5: you know it ain't your name, boy.

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Speaker 3: Now that's that you're talking about your dad in the

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Speaker 3: you find that that became a way that you learned

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Speaker 6: I was more of a visual guy. If I see it,

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Speaker 5: You know, I went to college reading three grade levels behind,

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Speaker 5: by him instelling that in me, he gave me tools.

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Speaker 5: That's why I keep telling you I stand on his

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Speaker 5: You know, the hardest thing I ever did in my

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Speaker 5: You know when I went into the Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 5: I gave James Madison my Hall of Fame bus because

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Speaker 5: I want every kid to come through that door to

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Speaker 5: understand it's not a right but a privilege and get

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Speaker 5: your college degree. It's not about giving James Madison nothing

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Speaker 5: because they got all the money and everything else. It's

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Speaker 5: about trying to set a standard of excellence for the

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Speaker 3: That's great, and I know that you you kind of

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Speaker 3: There's kind of this misnomer about the idea of student

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Speaker 3: that when you went to James Madison. You were really

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Speaker 3: committed to, Hey, I want to try and take this

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Speaker 6: Bruh.

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Speaker 5: Like I said, me and Nate just told you, we

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Speaker 5: where you just came from. You know, was not there

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Speaker 5: you get your education. And my my head coach told

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Speaker 5: words have meanings. That's that's what I learned in college.

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Speaker 5: You know, education is power is mobility. I never had

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Speaker 7: You talked about how get that problems.

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Speaker 4: Nervous I'm speaking a normal level.

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Speaker 7: You talked about the process to getting your degree.

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Speaker 9: When you finally whether it be, walked across that stage

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Speaker 9: and you hold that diploma in your hands, how rewarding

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Speaker 5: Well, hey, you know I was more proud for my

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Speaker 8: Man, So now can you hear us out there in radio?

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Speaker 8: And can they hear us pretty good? Because I can

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Speaker 4: A little bit better.

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Speaker 2: Let's look at that we got.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned your mom there, Charles, missus Haley, and and

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Speaker 3: I remember you said that her her words, she always

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Speaker 3: big impact on you. Just referenced one of them, Charles McMillan,

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Speaker 4: And deal with that.

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Speaker 6: Well, now what happened was is.

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Speaker 5: My mom brought me up and so we took some

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Speaker 3: this evening. I want to ask you specifically about Challis

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, coach coaching Mac. He was an amazing, amazing man.

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Speaker 6: So it's different from me coming in than you know.

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Speaker 6: And I didn't. I didn't hold back.

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Speaker 4: No, you didn't.

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Speaker 4: Call his name Run a Lot, Running a Lot. What

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Speaker 5: moved it. Hey, I was in his pocket. Dog, I

444
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Speaker 5: was like changing his pocket, and I just wanted. I

445
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 5: couldn't understand him. He he could turn that switch on

446
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Speaker 5: and off. He could smile and laugh and next thing

447
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 5: you know, he hitting you in the mouth. I could

448
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 5: not understand that. Once I turned that switch on, it

449
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 5: ain't coming off. And I couldn't understand that. And then

450
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Speaker 5: one day his foundation giving off shoes at a barbershop

451
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 5: and and he made me go on my day off.

452
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 5: I was mad and then I get there. That was

453
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 5: the best day of my life because this ten year

454
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 5: old kid walked up to him and said, mister Lott,

455
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Speaker 5: what makes you great. Now I'm well beyond the right,

456
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 5: you know, over yonder the long way, the way right.

457
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Speaker 6: But I heard that and I came on over. I

458
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Speaker 6: stuck my head clothed.

459
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Speaker 5: I'm waiting and Ronnie say, I play without fear, and and.

460
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Speaker 6: I mean it unlocked so many things. You know what.

461
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 5: I feared, I'm losing my job. I fear not being

462
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Speaker 5: on the team. It was a lot of things that

463
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Speaker 5: I fear. And from that day on, Hey, done.

464
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Speaker 9: You mentioned you know, Ronnie saying he's not playing without

465
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Speaker 9: fear in your college days, you know, nothing's gonna break

466
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Speaker 9: my spirit, my work ethic. How important is that mental fortitude?

467
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Speaker 9: Because obviously you know, if you play in college, you

468
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Speaker 9: play in the NFL, you got the physical traits to

469
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 9: play your position. How important is the mental aspect of

470
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Speaker 9: the game in terms of how you can produce and

471
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Speaker 9: have a Hall of Fame several Hall of fame's career.

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Speaker 6: Like he did.

473
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Speaker 5: I wanted to break the guy in front of me. No,

474
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Speaker 5: I want to break his spirit. I want to see him.

475
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 5: I want to see him say no, Moss, you know

476
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Speaker 5: I will. Hey, I want him to look down at

477
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 5: the ground, don't even look up at me. That's when

478
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Speaker 5: I got I'm in his head. So I tried to

479
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 5: get in his head. And then if I can make

480
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 5: him mad, he forget about the game. All he wants

481
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Speaker 5: to do is fight. So'm I, Hey, I'm not going

482
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 5: to talk trash, but let me tell you, I'm gonna

483
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 5: come at you one hundred percent of every play.

484
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Speaker 6: I ain't taking one off.

485
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Speaker 5: So you know you about to bring your blunt pale

486
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 5: and you know I got I got rocked a lot

487
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Speaker 5: with the backs and all that other stuff. Do it

488
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Speaker 5: to me again, because you know what, it will be

489
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 5: one time that they don't do that one for that.

490
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Speaker 4: So let's go ahead.

491
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Speaker 3: Let's take our second break here on the SLBBC cow

492
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Speaker 3: with crosstalk. When we come back, we've got Charles Haley

493
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Speaker 3: with us telling some great stories.

494
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 5: Dropping Lake still here.

495
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 2: Lake is still here. She's over there working hard.

496
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 8: And coin Bridge Man, he got a voice too.

497
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 6: He got I'm not nervous anymore.

498
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 7: One commercial break change, he gets around two.

499
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Speaker 5: Warriors to Zulus, you got scared, you might need to

500
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Speaker 5: go to the bathroom.

501
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 7: Boy, I'm good, I promise, I'm good.

502
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 3: The cornbread gave him courage. When we come back, let's

503
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Speaker 3: talk a little bit about Nate. I want you to

504
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 3: tell the story you've told before in recent weeks. We'll

505
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 3: come back about what it was like when Charles first

506
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 3: got in the locker room and just set all of

507
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 3: you straight on where the weaknesses were on this football team.

508
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 3: And hear a little bit more about Charles experience coming

509
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Speaker 3: to Dallas. That's next on the SLBBC Cowboys Cross Talk.

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Speaker 10: Don't cowwards, no Cowboys, No Cowboys.

511
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512
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Speaker 3: the Star in Frisco for the SLBBC Cowboys Crosstalk on

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Speaker 3: Bobby Belt from through the Fan. We've got Tommy Yarish

519
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Speaker 3: from Dallas Cowboys dot com.

520
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 2: Full of cornbread, full of energy.

521
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 3: Now we got a big Papa aka Nate Newton, say,

522
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Speaker 3: I got it right there, I got it right.

523
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Speaker 2: We got ballades on the Impala. There we go.

524
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 3: So we got, we got, we got Charles Haley here

525
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 3: joined us tonight, uh for the SLBBC Cowboys crosslock So

526
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 3: Nate I set it up a little bit before we

527
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 3: went to break. But I've always loved during the season

528
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 3: we've talked about toughness and the and and the team,

529
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 3: like really starting to lock in a Jael. You've always

530
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 3: told story that I've loved about the day Charles got

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Speaker 3: into the locker room and just set you guys straight

532
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Speaker 3: on how far away you guys were.

533
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 8: He boly remembered this, but he officially walked in that locker.

534
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 8: I don't know what Dad was, but we was all

535
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 8: sitting around just being us, cracking jokes, having fun and

536
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 8: admitting lash I'm the clown.

537
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 4: So but Charles just broke in, you know, you know, like, hey, Charles,

538
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 4: how you doing?

539
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 8: You know we're talking to him and he and he

540
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 8: just went off.

541
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Speaker 4: I know all of y'all.

542
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Speaker 8: You know I've seen y'all played against y'all. I can

543
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 8: tell y'all, all of y'all. I got a scouting.

544
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 4: Reporter, all of y'all can break down all of y'all.

545
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 5: And he started with Troy and went around the room

546
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Speaker 5: and told a little bit about everybody.

547
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Speaker 8: And what made me really was endeared to you this

548
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 8: one day when you came to me in and said

549
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 8: big fella. Where you didn't say big fella. You called

550
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 8: me something else, you know, he said, Man, he said,

551
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Speaker 8: I watch your film.

552
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Speaker 6: He said.

553
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Speaker 8: The first six to seven games you looked like all pro,

554
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Speaker 8: a pro bowler, he said.

555
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Speaker 4: But the last eight or nine games, you just fall off.

556
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Speaker 8: He says, because you gain weight, you eat too much,

557
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 8: you get out of shape. You ain't the player you

558
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 8: need to be. I need for you to come over

559
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 8: here every day. We started on from Monday to Thursday,

560
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 8: doing the stepper, doing all types of bikes, I mean,

561
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Speaker 8: just whatever.

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Speaker 4: Him and Tony Tobert can think of.

563
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Speaker 8: And I said, well, man, because at first I thought

564
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Speaker 8: I was gonna be over here by myself.

565
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Speaker 4: He said, now I'll meet you back over here.

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Speaker 8: So they set a time and me and him and

567
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 8: Tobert and we would, oh my god, the elliptical. I mean,

568
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 8: we would just be doing all types of stuff. Everything

569
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Speaker 8: is uplifting, weights, everything up looking, and we would do

570
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 8: and we did this, and I started my first Pro Bowl.

571
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 8: I like ran five straight with him, five straight Pro Bowls.

572
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 8: That I missed you because I was injured. They came

573
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Speaker 8: back and got my six Pro Bowl yet because of him.

574
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Speaker 8: You know, he was dedicated to to helping me be

575
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Speaker 8: a better football player.

576
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 5: Hey, I talked about what we were together. We Hey,

577
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 5: we were a chain, we were a team. We're hey,

578
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 5: our team is eleven eleven individual plant with one mission,

579
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Speaker 5: one goal, and we had a captain that was gonna

580
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 5: hold up accountable. So hey, how could we fail?

581
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Speaker 3: You know, it's we're talking with Charles Haley here on

582
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Speaker 3: the s l UVC Cowboys cross socks.

583
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Speaker 2: Charles, when you look at the what did I do

584
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 2: when I get wrong?

585
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Speaker 6: Charles?

586
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 4: No, No, somebody won't played no good.

587
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 3: You know what we've heard, We've heard a lot this

588
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 3: season and and last year from guys who were on

589
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 3: that team University. They said the same thing. They say,

590
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 3: the guy you answered to on defense was Charles Haley.

591
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 3: The guy you answered to on offense was Eric Williams.

592
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 3: Those were the guys who set the standard. Having Eric

593
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 3: across from you at practice and seeing the way he

594
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 3: was just talking about what those sessions were like, just

595
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 3: competitively going up against you know, Eric Williams, and and

596
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 3: and the tone that you two tried to set on

597
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 3: different sides of the ball.

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Speaker 5: Well, we did, brother in law. We you know, us

599
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 5: as the older guys, we would we would tell each

600
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 5: other where the ball is going so we don't have

601
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 5: to get hit. Now, them young dumb guys get in there.

602
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 5: You gotta got a man up now.

603
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 6: Hey. Yeah, but you know, hey, Eric, if he hadn't

604
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 6: got hurt, he would be in the Hall of Fame.

605
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Speaker 6: He was a beast. You know, nat should be in

606
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Speaker 6: the Hall of Fame. A beast. Hey.

607
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Speaker 5: They put Reggie White up on Nate like like Reggie

608
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 5: thought like it's gonna be It's gonna be a good day.

609
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 5: He put him on you too. And Eric.

610
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Speaker 6: But I'm just saying, is you know that kind man?

611
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 6: Well yeah, the.

612
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Speaker 5: Way we played, the way we played together was something special. Now,

613
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Speaker 5: I thought, Jimmy, you know Jimmy, you know he want

614
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 5: pass hit, hit hit.

615
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Speaker 6: Hey that that dude.

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Speaker 5: Man. When I first got here, don he said, start

617
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 5: practice over. We had to go up to the track

618
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 5: or I pulled a hamstring walking up there.

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Speaker 8: Bruh.

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00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 5: He's talking about start from coming out the locker room stretching. Hey, bruh,

621
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Speaker 5: this dude was that hey, man, something wrong with this

622
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 5: dude who was a little midget hitler over here?

623
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Speaker 6: Dog?

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00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 5: Hey, and then let me tell you you couldn't win

625
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 5: another You couldn't win by enough. He you were walking out.

626
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 5: I would be late all the time coming in and

627
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Speaker 5: I'll get in.

628
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Speaker 6: He's up on the pole screaming and yelling, Bro, we

629
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Speaker 6: just won.

630
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Speaker 5: You know what a W is? Do you know how

631
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 5: hard it is to get a w? Ask these cowboys

632
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 5: right now, they'll tell you how hard it is.

633
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Speaker 6: You know.

634
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Speaker 3: It's when he one of the stories we've heard a lot.

635
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Speaker 3: Kevin Smith was in here a couple of weeks ago

636
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 3: and Pup was talking about, Hey, you know when when

637
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 3: he was going up against Jerry Rice for the first time,

638
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 3: he said he would just stand across from during the

639
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 3: huddle and he'd go, hey, eighty eighty. He's like, I

640
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 3: don't even know who you are eighty And he said

641
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Speaker 3: at one point, he said, Charles Hayley turned over to

642
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 3: me and he said he was like, you show some respect.

643
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Speaker 2: That's Jerry Rice.

644
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 10: You know.

645
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 2: You don't pretend like you don't know who Jerry Rice is.

646
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Speaker 3: And Pup said he looked over and he's like, yeah,

647
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Speaker 3: you liked him so much, Charles, you go over there, okay?

648
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Speaker 2: And he said that you had all right, I respect it,

649
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 2: like I was, just like, all right, I respect energy.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

651
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 3: Did you we hear from a lot of different guys

652
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 3: that you would see like what what can you handle?

653
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 3: I want to see what can you handle? And how

654
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 3: much were you here with us? How much do you

655
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 3: think that strengthened the bonds you guys had on defense?

656
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 3: Was when you would push guys a little bit and

657
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 3: say how much you're gonna let me push?

658
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Speaker 6: All right?

659
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Speaker 2: Right, how much you're gonna let those guys push? How

660
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 2: did that build things?

661
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 5: Hey? My psyche is this cannot count on you? Do

662
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 5: you understand what that means? I gotta see some dog.

663
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 5: I gotta see you see.

664
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 6: Some fight in you.

665
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 5: I pushed guys, hey, man, it's players. I call names

666
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 5: and did stuff that I should never have done, because

667
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 5: you know what, I need to get that far because

668
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 5: I'm gonna need him, and and you know I'm I

669
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 5: should be ashamed. I'm not ashamed because you know what, Hey,

670
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 5: I pushed them the greatness and then guess what if

671
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 5: they fell off the clip?

672
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 6: They sucked in away so it didn't mind.

673
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 4: Nay.

674
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 2: You talked about it before, though.

675
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 3: The idea of just how you became a harder worker

676
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 3: by not wanting to let certain guys down. Was that

677
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 3: part of the time that Charles said when he got

678
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 3: here was.

679
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 5: Like many I won't give him a minute though, they

680
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 5: I'm telling you we on defense.

681
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 8: Charles was that guy that was always pushing, always trying

682
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 8: to get the best out of his guys. Michael Irvin

683
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 8: did it a different way, you know, but Eric William

684
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 8: was like kind of that enforcing.

685
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 4: So when we see guys like that, how can you

686
00:39:59,520 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 4: you know?

687
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 8: Because Eric was gonna call you out in the meeting

688
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 8: room if you let a spend a week.

689
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 4: Y'all get fast you or beat you and then what

690
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 4: we can't talk the way we talked in the locker room.

691
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 8: You're sure, but somehow to lead the child like man,

692
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 8: I can't believe man did this, you know?

693
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 5: So it was ugly, man, It was ugly because they

694
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 5: would hurt your feelings. Your feelings was gonna be hurt.

695
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 5: But you you either you either stepped up to the

696
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 5: plate and prove that you was worthy.

697
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 8: Like you said, you fell off that cliff and you're

698
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 8: gonna get rid of you anyway, weren't guarantee money, you

699
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 8: were gone.

700
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 4: Yeah.

701
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 6: Yeah.

702
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 5: I used to love when training camp star, I will

703
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 5: walk over to off of the line and say, you

704
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 5: know what, you're gonna get cut. The day you gonna

705
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 5: get cut, the day you gonna get cut, the day

706
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 5: I said I might get to you the next week.

707
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 6: Hey, now get them cut.

708
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 3: Hey, that's pushing people to be better. Like you said, there,

709
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 3: now we got the when when you look at I know.

710
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 3: One of these special things you've talked about before in

711
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 3: getting here to Dallas was you've talked about how special

712
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 3: your relationship was with Bill Walsh when he was with

713
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers, that he was somebody who I

714
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 3: think he said he was the first person who knew

715
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 3: your wife's name, knew your kid's names, that you had

716
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 3: a really strong connection with him, and you talked about

717
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 3: how you went to see him at Stanford when you

718
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 3: were trying to figure out what your next move was

719
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 3: gonna be, and that Bill had told you I can't

720
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 3: make the decision for you, Charles, I can't tell you

721
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 3: what to do, because if I tell you to do

722
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 3: this and you don't like it, you're gonna end up

723
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 3: hating me. If I tell you to do this, you

724
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 3: don't like it, You're gonna end up hating me. Did

725
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 3: that prove to be wisdom that you look back on

726
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 3: and said, I appreciate Bill not telling me what to do,

727
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 3: that he let me make that call myself.

728
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 5: I went to him because of the level of respect

729
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 5: I had for him, you know, and the way I

730
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 5: thought about him, and I kind of wanted him for

731
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 5: the first time. He never told us what to do. Ever,

732
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 5: for the first time in my life, I wanted him

733
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 5: to tell me what to do, and he put it

734
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 5: right back in my lap. And when he did that,

735
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 5: I knew. I knew that I couldn't I couldn't play

736
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 5: there and and anyway, man, I was at the Pro

737
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 5: Bowl and they they they released Ronnie a lot at

738
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 5: the Pro Bowl in front of everybody.

739
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 4: You know.

740
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 6: I cried that day. And that was the last day

741
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 6: that I think me.

742
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 5: And George Sief could ever have any kind of I

743
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 5: used to love George Seafer. He used to tell his wife,

744
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 5: I never made a mistake, you know, all these great things. Hey,

745
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 5: I don't even know why I got you know, I

746
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 5: know why I got mad because of Ronnie. No matter

747
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 5: what he said after that point, because I saw the

748
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 5: pain in Ronnie eyes that that it hurt man, and

749
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 5: it hurt me, and I would never forgive him for it.

750
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 4: But I have.

751
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 6: Now that's good.

752
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 2: Finally, now we got we got.

753
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 3: Charles Haley joined us tonight, some great stories when we

754
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 3: come back around the SLBBC Cowboys cross Man.

755
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 6: We could be here all night.

756
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 4: We got what we got.

757
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 2: One more, one more break I got.

758
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 5: I thank you, I thank you Jesus, Charles, I even.

759
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 3: Got a heart out for You're gonna have a clock

760
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 3: that like you're gonna know the exact time. So we'll

761
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 3: be back with Charles Sailor. We're gonna talk wrap some

762
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 3: things up here on the s w b C Cows

763
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 3: Scrosstalk with Charles Hailey, Nate Newton and Tommy Arts.

764
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 2: Will be right back.

765
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 10: Oh cow Boys.

766
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 9: Right m.

767
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 10: No cows No Cowboys.

768
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769
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774
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 3: We've got Tommy Yards from Dallascowboys dot Com. The three

775
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 3: time Super Bowl champ, six time pro bowler Nate Newton.

776
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 10: Is with us.

777
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: Big Papa got it right there.

778
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 3: And then we've got the multi time Hall of Famer

779
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 3: and five time pro bowler, five time Super Bowl champion,

780
00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 3: Charles and baller a certified baller right there, Charles Salley.

781
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,280
Speaker 3: All right, So, Charles, we talked a little bit about

782
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 3: the the growth that you saw the team go through

783
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 3: as eleven guys, you know, on one side of the

784
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 3: ball working together towards one. One of the games I've

785
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 3: heard described from guys who played on that team from

786
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 3: that era that they say that was a big growth

787
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 3: moment was that ninety four NFC Championship game that you

788
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 3: guys lost. That the the fight you had to show

789
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 3: to come back and and all the different factors that

790
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 3: were working against you. I imagine that was as your

791
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 3: former team and everything else. That was probably a particularly

792
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 3: difficult loss, and not just because that, but because it

793
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 3: prevented you guys from getting that three straight two rules.

794
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 5: I think I quit that game. I quit after that game.

795
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 5: I think I retired. You know, it hurt that much,

796
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 5: you know what, I still look I still look at

797
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 5: them and thinking they that I was easy to be replaced,

798
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 5: you know they they brought Tim Harrison a and whoever

799
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,240
Speaker 5: else they think they can replace Charles Haley?

800
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 4: What right?

801
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 6: So so that for me, that was a defining moment.

802
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 5: I realized that, you know what, that dog had quit

803
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 5: in it because I quit after that game and say I.

804
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 6: Didn't want to play anymore.

805
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 5: But when I got back home, I walked around and

806
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 5: I didn't see a diamond on my head? Wat did

807
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 5: somebody else get it? And that hunger and thirst came back?

808
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 3: And when you look at you know you You've talked

809
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 3: about how and Nate's talked about the leadership you just

810
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 3: showed by coming in an example and showing you guys like, hey,

811
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 3: this is the way you work and these are the

812
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 3: things you're you're deficient. Did you feel like, because this

813
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 3: was a team that hadn't won yet when you first

814
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 3: got here, did you feel like as somebody who had

815
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 3: experienced that, like, hey, I've I've had this happen before,

816
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 3: so I can come in and show you guys that

817
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 3: you felt more empowered to come in here and be

818
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 3: a leader than maybe you had the opportunity to be

819
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 3: in San Francisco.

820
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 5: Well, they wanted me to be a leader in San Francisco.

821
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 5: I came here to play the game. Jerry Jones set

822
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,919
Speaker 5: the stand up by telling me that he had my back.

823
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 5: Nobody's ever told me that before, so it didn't matter

824
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 5: what Jimmy or the player said to me. Hey, he

825
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 5: shouldn't have said that. I probably been quiet if I

826
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 5: told me that. I probably came in here like a

827
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 5: little angel, you know, saying please, lord, y'all, let y'all,

828
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,919
Speaker 5: let a brother go. But hey, Jared took that away

829
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 5: from hell. I say, you know what, I'm gonna beat me,

830
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 5: and you know, hey, I challenged everybody that, hey, what

831
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 5: what do you want to do? And I had to

832
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 5: teach a d line guys that you know what, a

833
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 5: two hundred and thirty pound god can put you on

834
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 5: your back quicker than you could say hello, yeah, because

835
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 5: they don't know about hand speed, So I had to

836
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,760
Speaker 5: teach about hand speed, foot speed.

837
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 6: You know, hey, it's all about leverage. You know.

838
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 5: I didn't lift weights it's about leverage. And plus I

839
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 5: know how to use my long arms, you know. So,

840
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 5: like Nate said, if you can understand you. Hey see,

841
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 5: I always ask guys, what do you do good?

842
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 6: What do you do bad? Ask me that question, what

843
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 6: do you do good?

844
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 4: What do you do bad?

845
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 5: Everything I do is good. I don't have bad by

846
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 5: the time you figure it out. By the time you

847
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 5: figure it out, I already crush you. So you understand.

848
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 5: So that's the kind of mentality that we have now.

849
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 5: I wish these guys now. They make so much money now.

850
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 5: They don't really love the game. They chant good at it. Hey,

851
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 5: you know, there's no bonding. They don't care a damn

852
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 5: about the guy next to them. They don't even know

853
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 5: the guy's next to them, kids name, or wife's thing.

854
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 4: They don't go eat.

855
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 5: We usually go great bread. Hey. We used to get

856
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,919
Speaker 5: drunk on a fight. Hey, that's when you get brave

857
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 5: when you have a couple of beers. You know what

858
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 5: I'm saying. A little couple shouts at tequila.

859
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 6: Hey, bro, what you say at the meeting? Uh huh?

860
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 6: I bet you won't see it. Dew.

861
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 9: You know, you talk about the camaraderie that you had

862
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 9: with your teammates. And not everybody is cut out to

863
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 9: be the voice in the locker room. I think that's

864
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 9: safe to say across the league. So for you not

865
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 9: just being the voice in the locker room, but being

866
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 9: able to go up to guys like name and be like, hey,

867
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 9: let's go get this extra work in.

868
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 7: Let's go ahead and make you better.

869
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 4: Why do you say I.

870
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 5: Was the voice in the locker room. We were the

871
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 5: voice in the locker room. It wasn't just one guy, sure.

872
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 6: You know, hey.

873
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 5: And and then when prime Time came in, prime Time

874
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 5: didn't come in prime time. Prime Time was just Radigan,

875
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. Hey, he came in, Hey,

876
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,439
Speaker 5: prime came in as a brother. I mean, he didn't

877
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 5: come here riding on a white horse. Hey, he sat

878
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 5: down with us plays Hey, laugh, joke whatever. And I mean, see,

879
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 5: that's what brotherhood is, when you can let go of

880
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 5: your altered ego and just be human.

881
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,399
Speaker 6: And and so that's what we did for each other.

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Speaker 8: Hey, So when it came time to step to a brother,

883
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Speaker 8: you could when it can't because they was gonna be

884
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Speaker 8: there with you every step of the way. And so

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Speaker 8: but our elite players happened to be those guys that

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Speaker 8: we followed, like Charles Prime. You know Prime would work

887
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Speaker 8: with his DV Mike will work with the wide receivers,

888
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Speaker 8: the ones that could you know, he would test them

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Speaker 8: by taking them to the club.

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Speaker 4: Bass, let's go to the club.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's something we got there.

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Speaker 3: We got a game coming up this week, still, Nate,

893
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Speaker 3: we got Cincinnati when we got there's a game coming

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Speaker 3: up this week.

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Speaker 2: There's a game on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, two wins in a row, beat beat Washington

897
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Speaker 3: in and beat the Giants.

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Speaker 6: So we need more games, get a playoffs.

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Speaker 3: We're taking a game by game, Charles, We're just trying

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Speaker 3: to get there. We still got like six game or

901
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Speaker 3: what five games left? Five games left the season, trying

902
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Speaker 3: to get a winning street going. You know, Nate, people

903
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Speaker 3: are talking about this Joe Burrow let offense as just

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Speaker 3: the Bengals continue to just let them down defensively. Uh,

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Speaker 3: when you look at this game coming up, do you

906
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Speaker 3: think that there's an opportunity to keep pace offensively? Be

907
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Speaker 3: If I tell you Cincinnati puts up thirty one points,

908
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Speaker 3: can they get paid?

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Speaker 4: So that's the question, can I offense put up thirty

910
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 4: four points?

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Speaker 5: Well, the question is can they run the ball. Yes,

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Speaker 5: if you have to control the clock, that's right. I means, yeah,

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Speaker 5: you got to keep your That's one of my top quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: I like the kid. I love that kid.

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Speaker 5: You know what, Nate will come off the sideline when

916
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Speaker 5: it'll go three and out run the ball.

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Speaker 4: Has to keep them where they can get some rest.

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Speaker 4: They get some turnovers for he run the ball.

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Speaker 6: Hey, and I'm going like, run the ball.

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00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 5: Hey, just think about them be on that not that

921
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Speaker 5: seven five six minute dry and I'm over.

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Speaker 6: There chilling.

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Speaker 4: When they come on that field, man, Wow, and just

924
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 4: think Nate.

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Speaker 5: They get the ball, go straight down the score. The

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Speaker 5: other team they throw that game, playing out the thing

927
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Speaker 5: they want to ady because they hey, no, you ain't

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Speaker 5: gonna catch up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: So when you look at the Bengals offense, a big

931
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Speaker 9: reason why they've had so much success. They've got the

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Speaker 9: NFL's leading passer and Joe Burrow the NFL's leading receiver

933
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Speaker 9: in Jamar Chase. So when you look at it from

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Speaker 9: a defensive perpective, this is for both of you, guys.

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Speaker 9: What do you feel like is running.

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Speaker 6: Back to Chase?

937
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Speaker 9: Chase Brown over sixds, got six touchdowns this year, but

938
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Speaker 9: they're more heavily reliant on their passing game just because

939
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 9: they've got your chase out there, T Higgins.

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Speaker 7: What is more likely to throw off an elite passing

941
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Speaker 7: offense like that?

942
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Speaker 9: Is it a pass rush that typically gets home on

943
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Speaker 9: the quarterback and makes things difficult, or is it the

944
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Speaker 9: back end of the secondary that makes things hard on

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Speaker 9: those elite types.

946
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Speaker 8: Of Gotta get a lead and then then then you

947
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Speaker 8: can go after this kid. The only way you're gonna

948
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Speaker 8: get You're gonna have to go after Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he can read it all.

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Speaker 8: So you got to keep constant pressure on him offensively

951
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Speaker 8: by scoring six every time they touched the ball, the

952
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Speaker 8: Cowboys and and and we preferred them to score first.

953
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Speaker 8: That way, Michael Parson, them can be affected because this

954
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Speaker 8: game is even. Nah, No, it's gonna be hard to

955
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Speaker 8: be if.

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Speaker 5: They don't get some pressure up the middle. He's staying

957
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Speaker 5: there doing this padding the ball like like like seven

958
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Speaker 5: on seven.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's gonna be a hard day.

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Speaker 4: You got, it's gotta be a big game for you

961
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Speaker 4: can't lock up.

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Speaker 6: I don't think.

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Speaker 5: I don't think bband no, not not no, no. They

964
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Speaker 5: about to do Max Blitz everybody and that mama about

965
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Speaker 5: to be coming. So you get the ball out right now,

966
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Speaker 5: so it go be a short path. This is the uh.

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Speaker 3: This is the Bengals team that just a couple of

968
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Speaker 3: years ago Cooper Rush got his first start after Dak

969
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 3: went down, not first starting to screw, but the one

970
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Speaker 3: after Dak went down. They won this game at at

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Speaker 3: and T Stadium. Also, uh, fun fact for Cincinnati, that's

972
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Speaker 3: who Larry Allen got his first start against when he

973
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Speaker 3: had to step in at right tackle. Was against Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: on the road at three Rivers. All right, that doesn't

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