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Speaker 1: Oh, welcome to Behind the Bastards, the podcast where I

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Speaker 1: brag about how much better the weather is right now

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Speaker 1: where I am than where Jamie is. Somehow this podcast

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Speaker 1: has gotten five episodes. Yeah, what an incredible What an

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Speaker 1: incredible thing for a friend to do. You know, actually,

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Speaker 1: I do think that all of my friends regularly do

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Speaker 1: brag about the superiority of their climate, and I don't

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Well, everyone used to say that, brag about

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Speaker 1: how nice it was in southern California, but then we

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Speaker 1: killed the planet. Yeah, I I missed that era. I've

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Speaker 1: only lived in the dystopia in June gloom all that

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Speaker 1: was the time. Yeah, what is June gloom? Oh, that's

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Speaker 1: when you would get like a little bit, like a

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Speaker 1: week or two a cool weather in June. It would

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Speaker 1: like in the sixties. It was lovely. It was like

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Speaker 1: my entire life until you know, the planet a couple

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Speaker 1: I left Texas where it was like hot. I drove

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Speaker 1: And then I get to Los Angeles and in Culver City,

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Speaker 1: and like partly cloudy, which is perfect. Um. But then

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Speaker 1: we killed the planet. Um. And you know specifically who

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Speaker 1: killed the planet, Jamie loftus were we gonna, we're gonna,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna pit this on h blots full stock. Helena

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Speaker 1: Blavatsky is responsible. Industry doesn't help blot. Yeah, she's not,

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Speaker 1: but she is responsible for World War two. Um. And

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Speaker 1: that's today's story. Um. So in she leaves New York

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Speaker 1: Ardia Samaj Movement which had been founded a few years

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Speaker 1: is a lot of there's actually a lot of folks

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Speaker 1: even though like because one of the things I think

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Speaker 1: Like of course they like that, you know, it's not

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Speaker 1: And then you just spiral out from there. Yeah, um,

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Speaker 1: And she continues to orchestrate control over the movement by

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Speaker 1: Kittle insisted that the Great Mahatma for copied large parts

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Speaker 1: identify it. Now, this is the same argument Elon Musk

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Speaker 1: It is really funny papers. We'll talk a little more

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Speaker 1: in theosophy where like these they it's it's basically kind

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Speaker 1: see kut Whomie? Can he like come over? Can I

424
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 1: see master? More manifestation? This is what always always happens.

425
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 1: We are we are in Bombay, to beet's not that

426
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,959
Speaker 1: far compared to how far to bet normally is from

427
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 1: our asses, right like? Can we not? And they can?

428
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 1: They can teleport like they're supposedly teleporting around handing letters

429
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,639
Speaker 1: to people. Can I not like I've given you so

430
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 1: much money? Can I like see these guys? Um? Pretty

431
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 1: normal request? And we're going to talk about how Helena

432
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 1: Blovotsky fulfilled that request. But first, Jamie, you know what

433
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 1: fulfills you and me and Sophie and everyone else. Products

434
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 1: and services. Only the products and services that advertise on

435
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 1: this podcast. Everything else leaves us feeling as if our

436
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 1: mouths are filled with ashes. But these products and services

437
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 1: fill the yearning void at the center of our souls

438
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 1: that has been that has been wrenched open by the pride,

439
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 1: bar of capitalism, and and and and fills are are broken.

440
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 1: It heals the broken spaces and our souls. That's what

441
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 1: these products do. And if you don't and if you

442
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 1: don't like them, tweet at at I right okay on Twitter? Wow, wow, brave. Um,

443
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,199
Speaker 1: I don't check Twitter anymore. I won't, I won't. I

444
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 1: won't see you. That's why I told that was the

445
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: inside joke that you spoiled. Yeah, well spoil these ads

446
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 1: and we're back. We're talking about how blovotsky um. You

447
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 1: know people who started asking can we see these fucking

448
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 1: masters that you're that are always giving us orders and stuff.

449
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 1: This is a very typical trajectory. But but I think

450
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 1: she really fucks herself over by implying that he's not

451
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 1: local but not not far away but not all that

452
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: far right right, I mean to bet is you know,

453
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: far from Bombay but not usually spiritless will normally um

454
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,120
Speaker 1: play it, I think much smarter and say that their

455
00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 1: guides are dead. They cannot they cannot come through. That

456
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 1: is definitely a downside to what she's doing. Yeah. Um,

457
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 1: so in order to like trick people, Imma Colombe claims

458
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 1: would later claim that Blovotsky had her construct a puppet quote. Later,

459
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: in one of her good moods, Madame Blovotsky called me

460
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 1: up and told me, see, if you can make a

461
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 1: head of human size and place it on the divan,

462
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,400
Speaker 1: pointing to a sofa in her room, and merely put

463
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 1: a sheet around it, it would have a magic effect

464
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: by moonlight. What can this mean? I wondered, But knowing

465
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: how disagreeable she could make herself if she was stroked

466
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 1: on the wrong side, I complied with her wish. She

467
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 1: cut a paper pattern of the face I was to make,

468
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 1: which I still have on this I cut the precious

469
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 1: lineaments of the beloved Master. But to my shame, I

470
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 1: must say that after all my trouble of cutting, sewing

471
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 1: and stuffing, Madam said that it looked like an old jew.

472
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 1: I suppose she meant Shylock, which is like a racist

473
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: caricature of Jewish people. Madam, with a graceful touch here

474
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 1: and there of her painting brush, gave it a little

475
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: better appearance. So they make this fake head to be

476
00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 1: Master kud homie um And yeah, I see that are

477
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: my question? Are there photographs of this? Because there are

478
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: a lot of fun pictures from the second wave of

479
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: spiritualism of things like you're describing, like paper mache like,

480
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 1: but if they're backlit and picked pitch dark, looks enough

481
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: like a human silhouette that people would would really be

482
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: convinced by them. But then you see a flash photograph

483
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: taken of them, and you're like, oh, dear, that is

484
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: a pile of still wet paper machee. Um, let's see,

485
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,719
Speaker 1: can we find there's definitely like portraits of him that

486
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: some German guy did which he looks like Jesus um.

487
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: And again he's he's he's supposed to be like a

488
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: Tibetan ancient mystic, but also he's like but still looks

489
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: like well, I think he's kind of supposed to be

490
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 1: like a member of I'm not a cute hoomie expert,

491
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 1: a coute homologist they called them. But I think he's

492
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,640
Speaker 1: supposed to be like, um, you know, one of these

493
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 1: master race type people. And so obviously he looks like

494
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 1: a white dude. Um. But yeah, I have not found

495
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: this head. But yeah, next she uh Emma explains like

496
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: the purpose the doll played in their their little con quote.

497
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: The doll plays the greatest part in these operations, and

498
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: as I have already explained, it is carried on somebody's head,

499
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: but at times it is placed on the top of

500
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: a long bamboo and raised to show that it is

501
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 1: an astral body. But when the doll has not been

502
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 1: at hand, even a white cloth wrapped around the person

503
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: who was to perform the Mahatma was at times used

504
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: and answered the purpose and then would do this to

505
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 1: like have him deposit letters and like he's like kind

506
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,479
Speaker 1: of wave basically at people, like you give you a

507
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: second of like seeing kut Whomie before he disappears. So

508
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be much right. You do it

509
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: at night, you do it from a distance, you know,

510
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: he drops off a thing and he goes, and then

511
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: someone's like, no, I saw kut Whomi. He like graced

512
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: us with his his presence. He's real. Um. Now, obviously,

513
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 1: the fact that I'm reading all of this to you, Jamie, Um,

514
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: I'm not inducted into the mysteries of Theosophy UM means

515
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: that it got out, which means that the Cologne decided

516
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: to tell everybody, which gets us to one of the

517
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: more infamous moments in Theosophist history. Well, I'm very so

518
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,479
Speaker 1: wait sorry, what year are we in right now? This

519
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 1: is like eighteen seventy eighteen eighty somewhere like around that period. Um, yeah,

520
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: I've got a date in there a little later. Um.

521
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, this is so this this moment in Theosophus

522
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: history is called the Colomba fair. The gist of it

523
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: is that eventually the Colombs had a falling out with Blovotsky. Um.

524
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: They threatened to blackmail her, and she had them kicked

525
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: out of the religion and their positions, and in the

526
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: drama that followed, they took all these letters that she'd

527
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: been they've been sending back and forth that out laid

528
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: out all of the cons they were pulling, um, and

529
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: they gave them to some loot local Christians who had

530
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: beef with Theosophy. So Theosopus will always be like, well,

531
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: they were concluded, you can't trust the Cologns and like

532
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: these these Christians had like a reason to want to

533
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 1: damage the church. But it's like it also it all

534
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 1: adds up, and they had a lot of letters that

535
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: were definitely from Blovotsky and other people talk about variations

536
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 1: of these cons like it's just it's very clear what happened, right, sure, man?

537
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: That is that is always um, that's one of my

538
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 1: that's always a fun source of dramatic tension when the

539
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: when the assistant goes rogue. Yes, yes, and and and that.

540
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: I mean it happens because she's mean, like she's shitty

541
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 1: to work. That's the thing that's and that's always why

542
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: it happens. It's because either you're not being compensated or

543
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: treated well. So leader, I promise, when we're living on

544
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: a cult compound fighting the f d A, I'm never

545
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: gonna be rude to my followers. I may ask you

546
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: to die for me and a holy wold against the

547
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: Food and Drug Administration, but in a nice way, politely.

548
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: But oh but in a like a friendly kind of way. Yeah,

549
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: like in that documentary Wild Wild Country, those people seem nice.

550
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: I don't think they did an anything wrong. Yeah, no,

551
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: I it's been a couple of years. I've only seen

552
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: I've seen about five hundred cult documentaries since then. So

553
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: I'll agree with your characterization of that. Why not it

554
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: seemed fun. Yeah, let's just move right past, and everyone

555
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: on Reddit will have no issue with what I've just said. Um,

556
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: compromising positions. Look if okay, let who okay, show hands,

557
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: who has not poisoned a bunch of people in Antelope, Oregon?

558
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: Come on, okay, I don't. I don't see any not

559
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: any hands in the air. That's right, we all do it.

560
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: It's fine. It's like lying to you know, a raal

561
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: going with this. I'm going to Antelope, Oregon to a right.

562
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: How about you go back to your script. Calm down, okay, okay, okay, okay,

563
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: I just get gets me excited about this stuff. Fussy

564
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: so fussy. On a Friday afternoon, there's this all of

565
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: this info comes out and these Christians start writing a

566
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: bunch of articles with like publishing the letters, and it's

567
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: a big embarrassment, right, a big deal for the Theosophus community.

568
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: Does a lot of damage to them, especially in India.

569
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: And one of the upsides of this whole weird affair

570
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: is that Blovotsky's room at the headquarters is inspected by

571
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: other Theosophists and they find hidden doors and passages built

572
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: into her room to allow her to like sneak around

573
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: and leave ship and like do her spirit stuff. Right. Um,

574
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: that's okay, Yeah, that's okay. So that's like, yeah, so

575
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: the room has been specifically like rigged for this sort

576
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: of thing that is always so interesting to hear about. Yeah,

577
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: that rocks, that's fun that's funny to me. I was

578
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: interested in like whether I don't know, I feel like

579
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: there's all these cases of like even when the big

580
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: public figure is exposed, like with scientology or with spiritualism

581
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: at different times, that there are so many believers at

582
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: this point that no one even cares and they're like,

583
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: there's an excuse. But people take it seriously here, Yeah,

584
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: they do. And you know what I take seriously Jamie

585
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: just reading this next paragraph. Right, So, the reveal of

586
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: her private letters led to a precipitous decline in the

587
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: fortunes of the Theosophical Society. But what finally forced Bolotsky

588
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: out of India was a controversy over the release of

589
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: the Mahatma letters. And these are those the series of

590
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: letters of kut Humi and Maria that they sent to

591
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: this English author ap sentate that turned out to be

592
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: totally plagiarized by another dude. Right, um, yeah, and they

593
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: were not only were their plagary but like these are

594
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: again these are like mystical supposed to be mystical revelations

595
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: of the cosmos by undying gurus and the she controls

596
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: seek control Vida, and the parts that aren't ripped off

597
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: are just like the specifically like throwing shade at specific

598
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: people in the real world that Bolotski disliked. Like it's

599
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: this like mixing and airing of personal I have an

600
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: argument with like the spirit this guy. To be fair,

601
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: how many best selling books could you describe as essentially

602
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: a mix of plagiarism and airing personal says I would

603
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: do what have I said about coming on here and

604
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: slandering Michael Crichton like the man's debt. Let's have some respect.

605
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: Michael got a lot of damage on the way out,

606
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: didn't you. Um. So this all blew up enough that

607
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: a British organization, the Society for Psychical Research. And again

608
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: this is not this is not like a crackpot. Nowadays

609
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: anything with that name would be kind of crack. But

610
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: but again this is like people are trying to see

611
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: if this is real science, and it is like legitimately, yeah,

612
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: you would want to like study this to some extent um.

613
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: So this is like, yeah, you would want to like

614
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: try to see can we prove whether or not this

615
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: stuff is real. So they send a fucking dude to

616
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: India to analyze the letters, and this investigator, Richard Hodson,

617
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: writes a huge report which concludes that Bovotsky is quote

618
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: one of the most accomplished, ingenious, and interesting impostors in history.

619
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: Um now, Theosophics you can read if you want to

620
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: spend days reading Theosophists. Tearing this report apart for its

621
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: supposed shortcomings and stuff, there's a lot. It's a ton

622
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: of it, Jamie, Oh, I know. That's why I was like,

623
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: I'm not covering this. I'm going to bed. Yeah, exactly.

624
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: It is not worth You don't need to. Nobody needs to.

625
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a theosophus listening who's gonna be like,

626
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: but you're not doing the proper like, I don't care.

627
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: It's fine if you want to be a theosopus, a theosophist,

628
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: it's not. I don't think there's anything particularly toxic about it.

629
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: In two but like, chill out man, she was a

630
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: conn woman. I do. I do all kind of I

631
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: do kind of like those kind of quotes where it

632
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, you know, this person was objectively full

633
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: of ship. But you kind of got a handed to

634
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: her right, like, yeah, she was. She was pretty good,

635
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: full of sh right. Yeah, well's that's how we feel

636
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: about l r H. You know, by the way, so

637
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: I'll run Hubbard. Everyone calls l r H. I was like, wow,

638
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: look at you on a little cutie cutie nickname. Uh, basically,

639
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: it's what scientologists actually do call them. It's like the

640
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: thing that you like, they'll talk about like l r H.

641
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: Tech and stuff is like a big way they'll refer to,

642
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: like scientology like uh, you know, teachings and ship um.

643
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: But I kind of think that was also Hubbard ripping

644
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: off Glovotsky because everyone calls her HPP and in all

645
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: like Theosophy's literature and she's always called HPP. It's very

646
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: I tried to watch I did watch with a couple

647
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: of friends at the compound, a documentary about her, and

648
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: they kept calling her HPP and it sounds like HPV

649
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 1: when you have like a bunch of people saying it quickly, No,

650
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: that's my department and I don't have it anymore. Okay,

651
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: good for you, thank you. I didn't know that you

652
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: could do. Sometimes it just goes away kind of good. Yeah,

653
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 1: just like HPP eventually went away. Um by toxic. I

654
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: had a very toxic thought when you said that. Do

655
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: you remember how there used to be those god awful

656
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: shirts and so the notorious RBG Oh god, yes, do

657
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: you think that Theosophy had shirts like now around her?

658
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: They are that kind of Jamie. I think we figured

659
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: out how you and I are going to make a

660
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: million dollars. Yeah, where she's like got a blunt in

661
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: her hand because some people think she smoked a lot

662
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: of weed, although Lackman says that that's a dirty lie.

663
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: But Lackman, we got doubles, got it. We've got to

664
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: move products. She smoked weed, she smoked hella herb. I

665
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: really don't like that. I had that thought. But now

666
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 1: it's it's gone. I've released it. Thank you, you released

667
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: it into the universe, back to the cashic library. Yeah. Yeah,

668
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: it's a gigantic volume of sitting at the records cod

669
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: What a what a nightmare concept? What a hoot. So

670
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: the fact that the report like happens a lot of

671
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: the folks who were, like again the people who make

672
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: Theosophy profitable, which are people who are kind of into it,

673
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: but not like I haven't lost their minds. They maybe

674
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: they just want something neat right, like it's boring being

675
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: a British person in India all the time or whatever,

676
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: or in being a British person in Britain or whatever.

677
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 1: And so maybe a lot of them were just folks

678
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 1: who wanted a little bit of spice. And when this

679
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: letter comes out like a lot of like that, that

680
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: kind of support, which is where a lot of the

681
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 1: money comes from, starts to evapp rate and and again,

682
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: the same way she had in New York, whenever people

683
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,720
Speaker 1: start like getting wise to her, like any good conner.

684
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: As she moves on and Bovotsky leaves India, she returns

685
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 1: to Europe in March of eighteen eighty five. She left

686
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 1: in eighteen seventy, so she's an India about seventy years

687
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 1: something like that. Um she lands in Naples, she travels

688
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: around a bit, and she spends most of the next

689
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: three years living off of a society pension, which I

690
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: think was quite comfortable, and working on her last book,

691
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 1: her very last book, The Secret Doctrine, and that Jamie

692
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 1: Loftus Sophie Lichtman brings us all the way back around

693
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: to our old friend from episode one, Jean Salvain Bailey,

694
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: the astronomer who crafted the theory of a Hyperborean Atlantis.

695
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 1: Now Bailey effectively orientalized Atlantis right um, taking the mythical

696
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: super civilization of European lore that had been like a

697
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: focus of occultists and stuff from millennia and shifting it

698
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: to Asia. Um. When we talked about this earlier, I

699
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: quoted from Dan Edelstein's Hyperborean Atlantis. Here's him explaining what

700
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: Blovotsky actually wrote out in her last book, A series

701
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 1: of lengthy glosses and commentaries of an alleged ancient book

702
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: consulted by clairvoyance no less the Stanzas of disneyan Um

703
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: I know d z y a n. Blovotsky's text is

704
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: an anti Darwinian descentive man that tells the rise and

705
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,959
Speaker 1: fall of seven root races. We are currently on number five,

706
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: going on six. Each root race is divided into seven

707
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: sub races and is associated with a different continent, although

708
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: with continental drift and the disappearance of certain continents, these

709
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 1: do not correspond with the ones we know. Unsurprisingly, one

710
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: of these lost continents is Atlantis. Although writing shortly after

711
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 1: ignacious Donnelly, who's Atlantis the Antediluvian World launched the Atlantis craze.

712
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: Blovotsky did not place Atlantis in between Europe and America,

713
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: as Donnelly had, but rather in the far north, near

714
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 1: the North Pole. Indeed, in Blovotsky, Bailey had finally found

715
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: a supporter. She quotes his works extensively, no less than

716
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: twenty two times, and credits him with having discovered the truth,

717
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: or at least part of it, about Atlantis. So the

718
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: entire cosmology of Blovotsky's last book is based in large

719
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: part on a mix of Bailey's work and that novel

720
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: The Coming Race by Edward bulwer Lytton. Now, while Keyed

721
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: envisioned this underground master Race as being like potential conquerors,

722
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: she saw sees them as benevolent spirit guides. Again, kut

723
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: Umi and Master Maria. They're living underground, right, there's this

724
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: network of tunnels. They're super race underground. And she saw

725
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: bulwer Lytton's concept of real as basically being again kind

726
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: of a cult electricity. And as she always did, Blovotsky

727
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,240
Speaker 1: just rewrote a couple of other people and like mashed

728
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: it together with half understood Eastern religion, and like that's

729
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: the associates confirm what she's been trying to write down. Yes,

730
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: most of her life. That's wild. Now, unfortunately for everybody

731
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: on earth. One thing that Helena chose to focus on

732
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: heavily when she was taking it from Bulward Letton or

733
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: Litton Bulwar Litton was the whole race science aspect of

734
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: his book. Now, this had always been a part of

735
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: diffusionists thinking. There's always been some weird, like uncomfortable race

736
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: ship with diffusionism, because if you're claiming there's a single

737
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: source of all invention and creativity and people day are

738
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: degenerate imitations of past splendor, well, some people are going

739
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: to be more degenerate than others, right, some people are

740
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: gonna be closer to the master race than others. So

741
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: there's obviously this has always been a problematic additive. You

742
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: see where that's headed. Yeah, yeah, Edelstein continues quote. Blovotsky

743
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: also develops to its fullest the racial germ present in

744
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: Bailey's thesis. Hyperborean Atlantis was home to the Atlanteans, but

745
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: also saw the emergence of another race, the Arians. From Bolotsky,

746
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: the Aryan race was born and developed in the far North,

747
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: though after the sinking of the continent of Atlantis, its

748
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 1: tribes immigrated further south into Asia. For a long time,

749
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: remaining Atlanteans and the Arians lived together. They brought civilization

750
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: to India, Egypt, Greece, and Rome, and are the ancestors

751
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 1: of the current Europeans. The Atlanteans transmitted to the Arians

752
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,919
Speaker 1: all the known sciences and even highly sophisticated technologies such

753
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: as aeronautics knowledge of flying in air vehicles, as Blovotsky

754
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: put it, but over time the Aryan root race also subdivided.

755
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: One of the more unfortunate results of this division of

756
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: Blovotsky rites was the creation of the Semitic sub race

757
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 1: and artificial Aryan race. The Semites were but one of

758
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: the Aryan sub races, but she draws strong distinctions between

759
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: them and the others. Quote with the ancient Arians the

760
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: hidden The hidden meaning was grandiose, sublime, and poetical. However,

761
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 1: much the external appearance of their symbol may now militate

762
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: against the claim with the Semite that stooping man meant

763
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: the fall of spirit into matter and the fall and

764
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: degregation were degradation were apothesized by him, with the result

765
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 1: of dragging deity down to the level of man. So

766
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: the Semites destroyed godliness in Europe. That's why Europeans aren't

767
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: magic anymore. Basically was was was the Jews. Um Okay,

768
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: this is this is stuff that like I I have

769
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: not I've I've read the the gist of what she's saying,

770
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: but never like a direct quote, and it's yeah, and

771
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: Holy Defenders and Bootsky will say, like, well, no, she

772
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: was anti racist because she's she claimed like one of

773
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: the things she's arguing is that Europeans white people have

774
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: lost the ability to like do magic, and which is

775
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: a thing that like Indians have never lost, right and

776
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: like people into bed, like there's all these the parts

777
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: of the world and Indigenous Americans people are still connected

778
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,720
Speaker 1: to magic and white people are not, and that makes

779
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: them better than white people in a lot of ways.

780
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 1: But also so I would say, she's not a white supremacist,

781
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 1: but it is very racist thinking and especially anti Semitic thinking. Yeah,

782
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: like yeah, the fact that she's not just saying that

783
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 1: white people are the master race doesn't mean that it's

784
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: not very racist thinking. Um right, But no, it's extremely

785
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: and it's also like that it's classically racist to attribute

786
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:07,439
Speaker 1: magical powers to not white people like that. It's yeah, yeah,

787
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 1: it's racist and many it's very like the arguments people

788
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: make to try to make her seem like an anti

789
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:23,959
Speaker 1: racist icon are extremely funny. That's really seventh graders know that. Okay, yeah,

790
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: you're going to bat for the Semites destroyed magic lady, Like,

791
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: that's where you're that's where you're taking the swing. Huh interesting,

792
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: take full you know who did destroy magic? Jamie? Who

793
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 1: besides my amazing friends. Drawing of Alfred Molina. Yes, magic

794
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: has returned to the world. That's the new Great Awakening.

795
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: It's it starts with this. This is my Jesus and

796
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: the toast. Yeah, so go engage with the returning spiritual

797
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: occult powers in our new sixth world by purchasing whatever

798
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: product comes on next. It will give you powers or not.

799
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: We're back and I hope you all used your better

800
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: help or promo codes and now have the ability to

801
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: summon your own erotic drawings of Alfred Molina suckling different

802
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: furry creatures at his More. You're getting therapy for the

803
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: effect that it is, therapy for what it did do you? Yes, yeah,

804
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: just remember that the alphred billina, as with the suckling kittens,

805
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: is not real and cannot hurt you. It can't hurt you,

806
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: It can only bring you spiritual peace. So Blovotsky winds

807
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 1: up concluding that there is quote an immense chasm between

808
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 1: Aryan and Semitic religious thought. They belong to quote two

809
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: opposite polls, sincerity, sincerity and concealment. Who can ever fathom

810
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: the paradoxical depths of the Semitic mind? Right? This is

811
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: again she gets white washed all out. This is really racist.

812
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: This is yeah, this is it doesn't racist. This is

813
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: funny because it's like even even critical um interpretations of

814
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 1: her work still make it sound like, well, a lot

815
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: of what she said was taken out of context, and

816
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: but this sounds pretty in the text. Yes, tell me

817
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: what context makes Who can ever fathom the paradoxical depths

818
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 1: of the Semitic mind not racist? What context could make

819
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 1: that not racist? Um? She further degrades Judaism by describing

820
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: it as a sex obsessed and selfish cult. Judaism, built

821
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 1: solely on phallic worship, has become one of the latest

822
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: creeds in Asia. And theologically a religion of hate and

823
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: malice towards everyone and everything outside themselves. Meanwhile, she writes,

824
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: true Arians are the most metaphysical and spiritual people on earth.

825
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: And now, obviously I feel like I don't need to

826
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: belabor how this is adjacent to Nazi thinking, right, Like,

827
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,760
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like we could talk about it for hours.

828
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: But again it's like, I don't think that there's really

829
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 1: anything to tease apart here. It's just like overtly racist.

830
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,959
Speaker 1: Yeah it is. And obviously, like you know, she's growing

831
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: up in Russia during a period in which, like a

832
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: lot the state is incredibly anti Semitic. There are like

833
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: programs when she's a kid that are celebrated and stuff. Um,

834
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: she's not by being anti semitic, She's not out of

835
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: the norm, but the way she's anti semitic is completely new.

836
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 1: She is inventing new kinds of anti semitism, cooking that

837
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: anti semitism into like religious texts, Yeah, into religious texts

838
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: that she's trying to spread as like pop philosophy. And

839
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: in the Sacred Doctrine, she places Jewish people as the

840
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: opponents of the preordained progress of the races. Quote this area,

841
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: non area and specifically Semitic opposition would become the great

842
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,760
Speaker 1: historical paradigm of the racist right, replacing the Marxist historiography

843
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: of historiographic law of class struggle. Blobotsky also raised the

844
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: spectr a new race to be chosen from among the

845
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: most select members of the Aryan root race. This next

846
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 1: race would have even greater powers than the present one

847
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: and would truly produce produce the uber mention of the future. Now.

848
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 1: Helena dies in eight ninety one, but her ideas continue

849
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: to spread. Just as she had first tweaked and updated

850
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: the work of others. Occultists came along to add to

851
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: her ideas. The first was fascist Austrian occultist Yard Lanz

852
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: von Liebenfels, who gave the birthplace of the Arians as

853
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: a lost Arctic Hyperborea her Moan Earth. A German ethnologist followed.

854
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: He named the mystical Aryan homeland tula or it's it's

855
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: spelled ful and it's usually said fuel. I think it's

856
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: actually supposed to be pronounced tula um. But like this

857
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: is also the name of like a popular brand of

858
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: like top racks that people put on their subarus. Um,

859
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,439
Speaker 1: it's the word had other meetings before. Yes, it's also

860
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: the name of my dad's best friend. She's from Greece.

861
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: It's a Greek name. Is it spelled t h u Eli. Yeah. Yeah,

862
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: there's others. There's like Tulian stuff like yeah, I think

863
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: there's there's a number of other kind of similar names.

864
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: This is t h u l E. I'll call it

865
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: fuls just because that's usually in a hell boy they

866
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: say ful. So that's what we're gonna go with here.

867
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: Mike mcnola was never wrong. Yeah. In July of nineteen eighteen,

868
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 1: is Germany reeled from starvation and disaster on the Western Front,

869
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 1: the ful myth would be adopted by German theosophist baron

870
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 1: Rudolph von Sabotendorf. He founded a Bavarian right wing nationalist

871
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 1: club and called it the Ful Society. This name set

872
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: it apart from other more militant far right organizations, and

873
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: its cover as an antiquary and historical society discussing the

874
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: myths built by Bolovotsky helped Sabotendorf and his followers avoid

875
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: police scrutiny. Quote During the rapid succession of socialist and

876
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: Soviet revolutionary governments. In post World War One Munich, the

877
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: Ful Society was at the center of the white or

878
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 1: reactionary counter offensive. It's antiquary and cover may have facilitated

879
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,240
Speaker 1: this role while authorities cracked down on more visible nationalist groups.

880
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: The Ful Society's headquarters at the Fancy I'm not going

881
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: to try and pronounce the name of this hotel became

882
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: a haven for the resistance throughout the turbulent period between

883
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: ninteen eighteen and nineteen twenty. Yeah, the Holiday and the

884
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 1: Society of Us. Yeah. Yeah, So it's it's an umbrella

885
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: group for a bunch of different far right paramilitary organizations

886
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,959
Speaker 1: known as the Free Corps uh Corps. Right like these

887
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 1: are like using the Thule Society is cover. Now. One

888
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 1: of the far right groups that came under the sway

889
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: of the Thule Society was the German Workers Party or

890
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: d a P, soon to become the n S d

891
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: a P under the leadership of Adolf Hitler. Now, the

892
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,479
Speaker 1: precise connections between the d a P and the Fule

893
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: Society are debated somewhat. This is often vastly over kind

894
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: of emphasized as like the Nazis started as this occult

895
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: organ and it's like, no, it's just more that a

896
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: lot of early Nazis had occult leadings and this was

897
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: a good cover for being a fascist in a period

898
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: when that was more dangerous. And so of course, like

899
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 1: they have, they're related to one another, right, Um. Sabatandorff

900
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 1: would always affirm that the Nazi Party was created by

901
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: Fule Society members. Reginald Phelps's class dat doubt on these claims. Um.

902
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: And it's worth noting though that, like you, again, there's

903
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 1: a lot of debate about like to what a degree

904
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: was this like an administrative thing? Was it planned? Um?

905
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: But what's actually true, and Ian Kershaw notes this is

906
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,760
Speaker 1: that the Thule Society had a shipload of like members

907
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: who later became massively influential Nazis. Um. One of these

908
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: guys was Alfred Rosenberg. Now Rosenberg would want to be

909
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: the Nazi parties, Yeah, he's he sucks, Um. No, not

910
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: Alfred Molina. Um. Rosenberg is like basically kind of like

911
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: the chief idealogue of the Nazi Party next to Hitler. Um,

912
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,720
Speaker 1: like the guy making up the most kind of Nazi

913
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,439
Speaker 1: cannon next to Hitler. Another Thule Society member was Hans Frank,

914
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: who became future governor of Poland and would be executed.

915
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: I believe he's one of the guys executed in Nuremberg.

916
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 1: A lot of war crimes, Hans right, he's running Poland

917
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 1: for the Nazis, right, that's the kind of war crimes

918
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: Hans Frank winds up committing um. Another Thule Society member

919
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: was Anton Drexler. Drexler is the actual founder of the

920
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,959
Speaker 1: Nazi Party. Hitler doesn't found it, right, Hitler's like comes

921
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: in kind of a little bit later and and so

922
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: eventually does take over. But Drexler is the guy who

923
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: founds it, and before he founds the Nazi Party, and

924
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: while he's starting the Nazi Party, he's a regular attendee

925
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: at the Thule Society meetings. Hitler was never a member

926
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,720
Speaker 1: and he was definitely not a theosophist. But Rudolf Hess,

927
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: his one time best friend and the guy who actually

928
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: wrote mine comp with him, like when they're in prison.

929
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,760
Speaker 1: Hess is the guy who's like taking dictation from Hitler.

930
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: He later kind of loses his mind and flies a

931
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 1: plane to England at the start of the war to

932
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: try to get the king to ally with Hitler. It

933
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: doesn't work. Um he dies in prison. Um. Um. He

934
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: was also a Thule Society member. Um. And Hess is

935
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 1: super influential to Hitler. Hess is early on because once

936
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: they start to get power, Hess kind of gets marginalized

937
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: because he's he's very into the occult. He's a little

938
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: bit of a crackpot, but he is like he is

939
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: like Hitler's emotional support animal. Like when Hitler's like in

940
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 1: the early days of the Nazi Party, Hitler probably kills

941
00:50:55,920 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: himself without Hess there Um very important guy. Now. Blovotsky

942
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 1: herself obviously was not a Nazi. She could she dies

943
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: in e nine one, right, she's there's no way she

944
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: even could have been. Yeah, but her ideas run through

945
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: Nazi history. Alfred Rosenberg's book book The Myth of the

946
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: Twentieth Century, which he publishes in nineteen thirty, is the

947
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 1: second best selling book in Nazi Germany under Mine comp Right,

948
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: That's what I mean when I say this guy's like

949
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: the number two ideal logue of the Nazis, and his

950
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: whole book is a plagiarism of the secret doctrine. Like

951
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: he's basically taken the secret doctrine and doing what Blovotsky

952
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: did with the Coming Race. He opens the book by

953
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: restating the myth of a Hyperborean Atlantis and assisting that

954
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: the existence of a quote prehistoric Nordic cultural center was

955
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: the basis of all Nazi race science. Edelstein calls this

956
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: belief in an Aryan Atlantis the quote foundational myth of Nazism.

957
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 1: Blovotsky's ideas about the inevitable progression of races also played

958
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: into Nazi theory. This gets forgotten a lot amongst all

959
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: the horror, but genocide was only like part of the

960
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 1: Nazi quest to secure a future for the Aryan race.

961
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: They were not just trying obviously. One part of this

962
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: is we want to kill a whole shipload of people

963
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: to stop them from breeding with Arians and you know,

964
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: watering down their blood. But like they didn't believe German

965
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 1: people were good enough either, right, They didn't believe that

966
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 1: there were like Arians in the way that there needed

967
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: to be. Another huge part of Nazism is creating a

968
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: master race through science and breeding, right, um, which is like,

969
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: again it's tightened with Bolovotsky's ideas of like we're on

970
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 1: the fifth race, but we're becoming the sixth race and like,

971
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: you know, we can we are creating this like new

972
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 1: race that can be like a new kind of master race.

973
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: But it's going to take you know, in her mind

974
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: it was more like a thing of spiritual kind of progression.

975
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, but yeah, I mean it doesn't matter whether

976
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: Hitler was at the host office or not. Like, there's

977
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: no just from the handful of paragraphs you've read, it's

978
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: extremely obvious why it would be an influential text for Nazis,

979
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 1: because it's just confirms stuff that they already believe. Yeah, exactly.

980
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 1: I mean it also more than that, it like the

981
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: things they believe, right, like because this has not been

982
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: people have been racist and had been anti Semitic and stuff,

983
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: but like this specific stuff, the Aryan ship that was

984
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:06,760
Speaker 1: not in the fucking in anybody's radar until hello blovotsky Um,

985
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna quote again. This is about like how she

986
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: influences their quest to build a master race. Indeed, the

987
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 1: horrors of the Holocaust may lead us to overlook the

988
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 1: fact that the extermination of the Jews was part of

989
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: a vaster racial project whose ultimate goal was the creation

990
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: of a new superior race. The other half of the

991
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: Nazi racial fantasy expressed itself with particular cruelty and the

992
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: eugenic experiments performed in s S laboratories, but was also

993
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: elevant and the highest evidence than the highest level of

994
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 1: the Nazi party. Certain s S officers apparently mutilated themselves

995
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 1: in order to achieve biological transfiguration, which is cool. Oh,

996
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 1: thank you for adding that at the end, because I

997
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: was it's it's good. Yeah, it's it's yeah. I mean

998
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: you're yeah, when you've when you hear that someone has

999
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 1: written down we are on the fifth of seven races. Uh,

1000
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 1: you know that's headed towards you genics. There's just simply

1001
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Um and phrenology and you know

1002
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: God does what else? Yep um? Now, well, nightmare okay today.

1003
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: Of course, Blovotsky's rants about the progression of races, the

1004
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: conflict between Aryan and Semitic people's and real are primarily

1005
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: the purview of the weirdest chunks of the right wing.

1006
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: Fascism has by enlarged moved beyond this stuff. Right. There

1007
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: are some weird rill Nazis out there. One of them

1008
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: has a I think it's on YouTube. I don't know.

1009
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: He has he dresses like a robot. It's weird, um

1010
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: one of but her influence is still deeply felt in

1011
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: the New Age and occult communities, and as a result,

1012
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: aspects of her theology are still making it into new

1013
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 1: fascist movements today. The Akashak Records are supposedly in a

1014
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: theoric library that contains records of everything that ever has

1015
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: and ever will happen. Right library, it's space Wikipedia that

1016
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 1: could whom he uses to do plagiarism. Now that she

1017
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: gets Blovotsky gets the name the Akashak Records because she

1018
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: doesn't speak Sanskrit well, and in Sanskrit, the word akasha

1019
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: means space facilitating sound kind of right. There's not a

1020
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: direct translation, but that's basically what it means. Blovotsky doesn't

1021
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 1: speak good Sanskrit and mistakenly believed it meant life principle,

1022
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: so she described the Akashak record as quote, indestructible tablets

1023
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 1: of astral life or of astral light, a cosmic like

1024
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: wax stamps. Basically, yeah, affinity library. It's it's okay. First

1025
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 1: of all, my just wiped out so hard um excellent.

1026
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,479
Speaker 1: There was a medium I spoke with in Canzadega who

1027
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: brought up the akash records like as a term, and

1028
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 1: I was like, what does that mean? I've never heard

1029
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 1: of that, and um, they could not tell me. So

1030
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 1: it's interesting, Like it's like still a term that floats around,

1031
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: but it's more used to describe like theory and philosophy.

1032
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: They're like, well, yeah, all theory. It's just like a

1033
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: theory or philosophy. And with diffusionism, right, because for one thing,

1034
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 1: what you say with the Akashak records is there's a

1035
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: single source of truth, right. But the other thing it

1036
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: does if you're a con person or just like you

1037
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 1: don't like being questioned too much and your beliefs, you

1038
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: can say that like, well I know this is true

1039
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: because I channeled this from the Akashak records and it's

1040
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 1: like written in some space encyclopedia or whatever. Um right, right,

1041
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 1: which is like it's yeah, definitely a concept that has

1042
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,479
Speaker 1: been increasingly vague ified. That's why she invents it because

1043
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: it makes it easier to con people. But over the

1044
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: it's been more than a century now, the idea has

1045
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:26,320
Speaker 1: mutated consistently. This segment from an article by Matthew Rinsky

1046
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Speaker 1: of conspirituality. Uh does a good job of summarizing where

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Speaker 1: we are now. The amount of information now stored with

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Speaker 1: in computer memory and crossing the Internet highway daily is

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00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 1: literally unfathomable, rights Kevin Tadeshi and Edgar Case on the

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Speaker 1: Akashak records, and yet this vast complex of computer systems

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00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: and collective databases cannot begin to come close to the power,

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00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,760
Speaker 1: the memory or the omniscient recording capacity of the Akashak records.

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Speaker 1: Hindu's nationalist spiritual influencer Seguru agrees equating the records to

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Speaker 1: the Internet. It's all there, he told a gathering in

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Speaker 1: two thousand ten. Whatever you want, you can access it.

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Speaker 1: It is all their right. And ow Goop's resident Akashak

1057
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Speaker 1: reader is Ashley Wood, who dubs the intuitive process a

1058
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: Google search for the soul and teaches a line activation

1059
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: meditation that promises to illuminate the fiber optic connection between

1060
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Speaker 1: the body and the pleiades, where she says the Acoshak

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00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 1: records are stored. From there, the believer can learn to

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Speaker 1: access the records through a simple banal incantation called the

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Speaker 1: Pathway prayer. No special training required in anti vax COVID

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Speaker 1: denialism circles. The Akashak records are now being consulted for

1065
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: a advice on how to dispel mental programming and negative

1066
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 1: agendas promoting the gene therapy of the COVID vaccine. This

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00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: life coach and medical hypnotherapist suggests in the following sermon

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Speaker 1: that connecting with the profound truths of the Acoshak records

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00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: can provide a soothing long view perspective on the medical

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00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: apartheid of public health COVID protections. She says the records

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00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: have put her in touch with angels Jesus and Mother Mary,

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Speaker 1: and she can teach you how to connect this way

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Speaker 1: as well. Well. Isn't that so? I mean, based on that, it,

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Speaker 1: like the Acoshatrick records truly is whatever un eat it

1075
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: to mean to reinforce your ideology. So it can be

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00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 1: something as simple as like, I'm a girl boss that

1077
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: wants you to pay me three hundred dollars to spew

1078
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: some random shit at you to this is why we're

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00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: anti vax and Jesus agrees, yeah, exactly, And it's like

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Speaker 1: it's kind of like, for as much of a selfish

1081
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: person issue was the solid that Blovotsky does for the

1082
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: rest of the occult movement is like, oh, here's this

1083
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: thing everyone can use forever to justify whatever bullshit you're

1084
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 1: trying to cash in on, right, I mean, because you

1085
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: can be coming from I mean it sounds like you

1086
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: can be coming from literally any advantage point politically, and

1087
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: you leverage this to your advantage because well, then that's

1088
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: like what happens all the time. It's like, oh, I've

1089
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: I'm channeling this spirit like the the way that my

1090
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: favorite way that this was like leveraged at like the

1091
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 1: height of eight spiritualism would be like the Fox sisters

1092
00:58:55,320 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 1: would channel um like dead senators who ad voted to

1093
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: uphold slavery and would channel them and say I changed

1094
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: my mind. I was wrong. I shouldn't have said that.

1095
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 1: And so it can be like this theology could be

1096
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: used it like all these different ways, but some of

1097
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: them are like so ah, that's disturbing, but also it's

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00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: not surprising. It's too vague concept to to not be

1099
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: used for evil. And also you know, well, Robert, I'm

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Speaker 1: you know, I feel like this is how every well

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Speaker 1: I'm upset. Good, I'm glad you're upset. That's all. That's

1102
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: all I ever want is to make you upset. That's

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00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 1: why we do stuff. Yeah, we want you upset and

1104
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: to you know, plug your plugables right here. Upset and plugging.

1105
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 1: That's the way to live. Um. Well, you can listen

1106
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:45,439
Speaker 1: to my new limited series, Ghost Church. It's on Cool

1107
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 1: Zone Media. Ever heard of it? Um, it's a history

1108
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: of American spiritualism. Yeah, I thought you guys. I mean,

1109
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: I think you guys would like some of the content

1110
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 1: they're putting out, you know, good ship, exciting. Advertisers are

1111
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,919
Speaker 1: kind of all over the place. Yes, it's pretty cool.

1112
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Speaker 1: And once again issues with that and I right okay

1113
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Speaker 1: on Twitter, Yeah, hit Sophie Lichtman up at whatever Sophie

1114
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: Lichtman's Twitter is. I don't remember how you write your

1115
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 1: trust trust me they are Yeah, I know, don't worry

1116
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 1: about it. Uh, listen to Ghost Church. Follow me on

1117
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: Instagram and Twitter if you're so inclined. But I'm really

1118
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 1: just talking about Minions over there right now, because I

1119
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: need to find my inner piece who's got a whole

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01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: fucking room in the Akashic Records. The Minions and you

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Speaker 1: know what, I'm going to announce this now, Jamie We've

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01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 1: been planning to wait a little bit. If you want

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Speaker 1: to win, an original song sung by me and Jamie

1124
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: Loft is about the subject of your choosing get a

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01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: full face tattoo of a menu a minion on your

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01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 1: own face. That's all it takes. If you do that,

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01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: we'll write you a song. Absolutely. And look, I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna be picky about the minion that you get full

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Speaker 1: tattooed on your face any man, any minion the one

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Speaker 1: I had been, And that complicates things. What would the

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Speaker 1: general vibe of the face? Um, I would recommend going

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Speaker 1: with Kevin. I feel like I have the face shape

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01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 1: for Kevin, but that's just me. If you need guidance

1134
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 1: on like what minion full face tattoo is best for

1135
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 1: your face shape, I'm happy to consult. Yeah, Jamie will

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Speaker 1: condle for you. I will tell you right now that

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Speaker 1: the song we write is just going to be American Pie,

1138
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Speaker 1: but we'll change the lyrics. But look, yeah, and it's

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Speaker 1: not going to age well. It will not age well,

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Speaker 1: really will it will. It will get us canceled in

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Speaker 1: like three months. Yeah, yeah, because you won't quite know

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Speaker 1: what we're talking about. But then three months are gonna

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Speaker 1: be like, what the fun Oh no, absolutely not, yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: and so forth, and on that note, Bye go