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Speaker 2: The New York Giants defeat the Dallas Cowboys thirty four

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Speaker 2: to seventeen, second win in a row to close out

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Speaker 2: the year. Giants defeat the Cowboys in Dak Prescott for

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Speaker 2: the first time since Dak Prescott's rookie year, with Prescott

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Speaker 2: as the starter and a fast start to the end

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Speaker 2: of the year. Tiki, you wish these wins would have

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Speaker 2: came a little bit sooner. Obviously, the Cowboys had nothing

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Speaker 2: to play for in this game. They're arresting a lot

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Speaker 2: of their starters, but a lot of cool individual moments

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Speaker 2: for Giant players in this game, including Tyrone Tracy and

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Speaker 2: Gneral Shechevsky.

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Speaker 1: All right exactly.

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Speaker 3: Tyrone Tracy is the one I highlighted in the pre

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Speaker 3: He is one of these players who can be a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then Donaldzchewski one hundred yards, Bob, and chance

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Speaker 4: Ah, I know he wants that one back. He didn't

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean there was some field good stories today,

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Speaker 3: No, they ran the ball the whole the whole first half,

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Speaker 2: So absolutely the players are gonna go out there try

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Speaker 2: Back here on Giants Extra Point. Giants defeat the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: Always a good day when the Giants beat the Cowboys

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Speaker 2: in MetLife Stadium thirty four to seventeen, and they finished

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Speaker 2: the year at four and thirteen. Guys, anything else when

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Speaker 2: this game jump out at you, Tiki, what do you

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Speaker 2: think of Jackson Dark's performance?

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Speaker 1: So he did enough, He.

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Speaker 3: Did what he needed to do, didn't make any mistakes

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Speaker 1: Really nice passed to Tracy on a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: But again the good things that you'd take away, he

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Speaker 2: It was almost like a pickplay too, and they couldn't

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Speaker 3: And he threw it early. Tyrone wasn't ready for it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and and look, you know Carl always

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Speaker 2: Mike caff gone the podium downstairs. His second straight win

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Speaker 5: Right, Okay, and not just as a coordinator, correct.

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Speaker 2: You know, Tiki said it to me in the pregame,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Spags Interrom.

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Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is Tom felt neutral. Tom wasn't

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Speaker 3: He did everything that he was a CEO, and he

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Speaker 5: Not we're going to be innovative. We're going to exploit you.

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Speaker 1: Coaches Prest Conference is brought to you by Hackensack and

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Speaker 8: Let's listen as nothing too serious are getting looked out

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Speaker 7: Had an impact.

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Speaker 10: Mike for you guys, with everything that's happened this year,

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Speaker 11: For you all?

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Speaker 8: It's just really I'm just really proud of the players

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Speaker 7: They never wavered, you know, they never wavered, and.

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Speaker 8: Know the results weren't there, but the process was right,

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Speaker 12: What do you say to Gunner in terms of not

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Speaker 7: I'm sure he wants that one back, but I'm proud

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Speaker 8: One hundred yard receiving today, stepped up in a role

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Speaker 13: Mike, what are your emotions right now, you know, as

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm not really thinking about that.

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Speaker 8: I'm thinking about this great win that we just had

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Speaker 15: Mike, because it you're the first couple of weeks didn't

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Speaker 14: Like you said, you're your family and at tendants mean

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Speaker 8: Yeah, all the all the I mean all these games

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Speaker 7: You know, I just thought I thought offensively.

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Speaker 12: Now better it me for Tyrone to get over one

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Speaker 7: It was great.

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Speaker 8: I mean, he became he became the third the third

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Speaker 7: So that was a cool milestone for him. But you

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Speaker 8: But he gave a lot of praise to the offense,

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Speaker 8: That was cool for him to get. I mean, that's

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Speaker 7: You know, throughout the week, you know, teams can go

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Speaker 8: That these guys just kept on staying on it, kept

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Speaker 16: Up the point.

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Speaker 12: You know, when you were named interim coach, how long

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Speaker 8: He's a young quarterback, so you're gonna you're gonna go

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Speaker 8: of blocked out all that noise, and you see this

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Speaker 8: a player who's continuing to grow and continuing to learn,

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Speaker 8: and the more reps he's getting, the more information he's

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Speaker 8: in the bank. And now you know, you can spring

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Speaker 8: board that into into the off season or now he's

447
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Speaker 8: going to continue to grow and learn and all those

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Speaker 8: things that we kind of went through the first time around,

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Speaker 8: Now he's seen it two, three, four or five times.

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Speaker 8: Now that memory banks and a kick in for him

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Speaker 8: because he rarely makes the same mistake twice. So this

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Speaker 8: is going to be a great off season for him,

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Speaker 8: and it was a great way for him to cap

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Speaker 8: off the season.

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Speaker 5: Two more, What did you.

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Speaker 17: Think about the way he bounced back from the game

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Speaker 17: against the Findings. These past two games, he really seemed

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Speaker 17: to like his stride. What did you think about his

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Speaker 17: ability to kind of brush that off and bounce back?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's those are these are all the qualities that

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Speaker 8: we saw very early on with him in the in

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Speaker 8: the draft process. And his ability to, you know, after

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Speaker 8: an interception or after a bad play, what does he

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Speaker 8: do the very next play? And so you study that,

465
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Speaker 8: you look at it and it's, hey, we're stepping up.

466
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Speaker 8: He's throwing a big time shot. Or he steps up,

467
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Speaker 8: throws a touchdown, our runs and scrambles and gets a

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Speaker 8: big play. So he has a very quick memory in

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Speaker 8: that sense, and that's a good quality for a quarterback.

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Speaker 8: When things go wrong, you flush it and.

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Speaker 7: You move on. You get back on track and get

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Speaker 7: back on the attack.

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Speaker 8: And I think Jackson, and I know Jackson has that mindset,

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Speaker 8: that aggressive mentality to do that, and he's shown it going.

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Speaker 12: Into the off season. You know, now is the time

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Speaker 12: you start developing and putting plans in place for the team.

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Speaker 12: Given the status introim, how do you approach that?

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Speaker 7: You know, I haven't looked that far ahead.

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Speaker 8: You know, we're just gonna enjoy tonight, we'll have I

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Speaker 8: have the plan, we have plans laid out, We've had

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Speaker 8: those conversations. Right now is a great night to just

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Speaker 8: you know, enjoy it with the with the with the team,

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Speaker 8: with the staff, and the families.

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Speaker 7: Mike, go ahead, go, I'll take the last.

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Speaker 18: Mike.

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Speaker 14: Sorry, John, John Marra has some personal stuff going on.

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Speaker 14: We know that, right, I'm not gonna get into it.

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Speaker 6: How important was it today to win this last game

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Speaker 6: and kind of put a smile on his face?

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Speaker 7: It was great.

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Speaker 8: It was great to have It's great to have him around.

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Speaker 8: It's great to have him around the facility and the

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Speaker 8: players and the coach. Mean, he just you know, he

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Speaker 8: brings he brings that energy to the to the locker room.

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Speaker 7: He was there today.

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Speaker 8: We present him with a game ball talk about toughness

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Speaker 8: and resiliency. You know, he's he's you know, he's what

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Speaker 8: the poster child for that and coming up and still

499
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Speaker 8: continuing to lead an organization. You know, very happy and

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Speaker 8: very proud and very fortunate to work for a man

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Speaker 8: like that.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you everyone for that's my cavaget the podium.

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Speaker 2: with more Giants Cowboys thirty four to seventeen.

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Speaker 13: This is Daniel Bellinger, and you're listening to Giants Football

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Speaker 4: Alerd at sixteen pressure, Dark gets it away to Bellinger.

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Speaker 1: He cuts itside of the twenty.

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Speaker 19: Pellinger goes fifteen to the ten to the five touchdown Giants.

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Speaker 19: I'm a third and sixteen Dark keptain alive. Pellinger made

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Speaker 19: himself available and the Giants with an improbable third down

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Speaker 19: conversion score.

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Speaker 2: And that was the culmination of a eleven play, ninety

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Speaker 2: six yard drive that took two minutes and twenty nine seconds.

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Speaker 1: They get the Giants a sixteen to ten lead going

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Speaker 1: into the half.

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Speaker 2: The driver was kept alive by a Kenneth Murray unnecessary

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Speaker 2: roughness penalty on the sideline. Giants capitalized on it, drove

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Speaker 2: down the field a little shovel pass from Jackson Darda

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Speaker 2: after avoiding a sack on a screen pass got it

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Speaker 2: to Bellinger who ran it in for a touchdown. That

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Speaker 2: was today's scoring drive of the game, brought to you

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Speaker 2: by Citizens. For every scoring drive this season, Citizens will

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Speaker 2: donate seven hundred and fifty dollars to the Giants Foundation

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Speaker 2: to support their work tackling important community issues, improving over

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Speaker 2: our health and empowering our youth. And Bob Tik and

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Speaker 2: I talked about this in the pregame. The results weren't

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Speaker 2: what you needed them to be, obviously, but you do

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Speaker 2: have to give Mike kaf the credit. Being an interim

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Speaker 2: head coach in this league is very, very difficult. You

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Speaker 2: coming on a Monday, you've never been head coach before.

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Speaker 2: You can't even kind of do everything you want to

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Speaker 2: do as head coach because it's such a short timeframe

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Speaker 2: to take over and get him ready for a game

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Speaker 2: six days later. But he did that, and for the

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Speaker 2: most part, the Giants were competitive under his leadership, and

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Speaker 2: he did a nice job.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look what he inherited. He inherited a

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Speaker 4: discipline problem. I mean his very first game as head coach,

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Speaker 4: Abdul Carter missed the entire first series and then a

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Speaker 4: couple a game later, Abdul Carter wound up missing an

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Speaker 4: entire quarter. Right, So he inherited, he inherited bad culture.

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Speaker 4: So not only are you being a head coach for

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Speaker 4: the first time, but you're inheriting things that clearly he

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Speaker 4: saw as a member of the staff that he was like,

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Speaker 4: if I ever become a head coach in the league,

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Speaker 4: this is not going to be allowed. Right, Oh guess

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Speaker 4: what tag you're it. You're now the head coach. To

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Speaker 4: his credit, he put his foot down and he create

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Speaker 4: add a level of accountability. So we got they got

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Speaker 4: the car to things straightened out.

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Speaker 5: But look at the level of accountability. Look what that

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Speaker 5: did to Abdul Carter.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, no matter what happens, if that

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Speaker 2: is the legacy of Mike Kafka, that he figured out

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Speaker 2: a way to get that guy in the right path

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Speaker 2: to get it turns out to be what we think

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Speaker 2: he's going to turn out to be. That's not a

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Speaker 2: bad thing to happen to the right.

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Speaker 4: Of also help develop Jackson Dart of course, which is

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Speaker 4: another positive. And then listen, he made the call to

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Speaker 4: get make the change a defensive coordinator and he put

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Speaker 4: a guy in as defensive coordinator in Charlie Bollen, who

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Speaker 4: has never called a defense as a defensive coordinator, learning

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Speaker 4: literally on the job on the NFL level, but he's had.

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Speaker 5: Some good influencers vance Joseph down in Miami.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and what he was able to do was figure

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Speaker 4: out ways to use pieces to the puzzle that we

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Speaker 4: all thought would be used from the beginning of the season.

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Speaker 4: And you know, give Charlie Bollen some credit too for

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Speaker 4: trying to get the most out of a flawed group.

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Speaker 4: We know that they've got issues at corner. We know

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Speaker 4: they got issues at safety, we know they have issues

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Speaker 4: at inside back er. But at least he took his

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Speaker 4: better players and figured out ways to give them a

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Speaker 4: chance to succeed. And Tikky, you know this better than

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Speaker 4: anybody that's talking right now or listening. Being on a team,

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Speaker 4: there are relationships within buildings and you can't expect an

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Speaker 4: entire coaching staff to all get along. There's some guys

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Speaker 4: like other guys, and there are clicks, and there are

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Speaker 4: all this other stuff. And you could see with Charlotte,

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Speaker 4: with Mike Caffert, what he did was looking he he

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Speaker 4: elevated the old line coach, the tight ends.

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Speaker 5: Coach to the O C.

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Speaker 20: Tim Kelly, so clearly things were happening that there were

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Speaker 20: a group of them that didn't really like the way

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Speaker 20: things were going, but they were good soldiers under the

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Speaker 20: previous administration, and when they got their chance, they made

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Speaker 20: their changes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think one of the hard things about being a

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Speaker 3: head coach is that you need to get the best

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Speaker 3: out of your players, right, And that's why Dave's I

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Speaker 3: think was really good, especially early at being a player's coach,

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Speaker 3: Like guys would run through walls for him.

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Speaker 5: They didn't mind the screaming and yelling.

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Speaker 3: It's a completely different job to coach your coaches, though,

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Speaker 3: and to have them all on the same page, and

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Speaker 3: it's a challenge that I think the Giants need to

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Speaker 3: be cognitive when they're looking for their next head coach,

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Speaker 3: like who can build that relationship with the staff because

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Speaker 3: it might be different people. You might not know these

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Speaker 3: guys that come in and become your whatever linebacker coach

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Speaker 3: or defensive coordinator or offensive coordinator or whatever it may be.

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Speaker 3: It's one thing with the players, it's a different thing

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Speaker 3: with the coaches because think about the dysfunction that the Giants.

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Speaker 1: Have had in that situation over the last few years.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Joe Judge is punching out his offensive line coach,

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Speaker 3: or maybe the offensive line coach is punching him. It

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Speaker 3: just you can't have that in an organization because ultimately

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Speaker 3: it all starts to trickle down and things just fall apart.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the other thing too, was you also there

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Speaker 4: has to be a line of delineation between the head

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Speaker 4: like this whole thing about players coaches, Tikky. I've been

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Speaker 4: part of the pre and the postgame show since nineteen

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Speaker 4: eighty eight. Parcels was here, Wow, then Dan Reeves I

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Speaker 4: was here with the ray handlet like I've seen them

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Speaker 4: all right, And at the end of the day, the

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Speaker 4: guys that have had success here are the ones that.

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Speaker 5: Rule with an iron.

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Speaker 3: Fist, Like, yeah, you treat the players with respect, but

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Speaker 3: you don't let them get away with Jack.

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Speaker 2: You said a high standard and hold every single player

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Speaker 2: to that same high standard.

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Speaker 4: Correct, And too many times there's been sliding scales. And

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Speaker 4: you know, unfortunately, you know, prior to Kafka taking over,

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Speaker 4: there was exceptions made for some guys and not for others.

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Speaker 4: And Buddy, Buddy, like you can't you can't be listen.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, prior regime, same thing with certain guys.

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Speaker 4: Correct and listen part they had they had different rules

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Speaker 4: with Lawrence Taylor.

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Speaker 5: But ye, Lawrence Taylor was a different.

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Speaker 1: From game one. No, forget that from practice one.

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Speaker 4: He was a different game right, But there still were

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Speaker 4: certain things that were expected of and I think there

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Speaker 4: was too much Buddy Buddy, So Kafka had to inherit

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Speaker 4: that and then try to change that.

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Speaker 5: Wally.

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Speaker 3: It was, you know the interesting thing, Bob, You know,

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Speaker 3: not to just go in a retrospective of this Giants regime,

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Speaker 3: this current one and Dave's not here anymore. It felt

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Speaker 3: like it was that way when Dave first started, right,

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Speaker 3: remember the you gotta earn your you know your job,

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Speaker 3: you gotta earn your playing time. And then that slowly

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Speaker 3: faded away, and then guys started getting away with things.

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Speaker 3: And when that happens, and the the the players start

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Speaker 3: being the more I don't want to say dominant, but

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, they can set their own

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Speaker 3: personal agendas.

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Speaker 5: That's when things get in That's when you get in trouble.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I mean, and that's and that's why I

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Speaker 4: say it an experienced, someone with head coaching, experienced, successful experience,

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Speaker 4: really needs to come in and reset this whole just.

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Speaker 3: To finish that thought. And this is going back to

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Speaker 3: Tom Laughlin. When Tom Cofflin came in, I was I

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Speaker 3: was a good running back for the New York Giants, fossil.

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Speaker 3: It helped develop me into a really good player and

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Speaker 3: Sean Payton and everything else. The first thing Tom Coffin

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Speaker 3: said to me was, you're great player, Tiki, but if

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Speaker 3: you keep fumbling, you're not You're not gonna be on

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Speaker 3: the field.

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Speaker 1: Period.

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Speaker 3: It was meeting one. If you don't stop putting the

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Speaker 3: ball on the ground, you're not gonna play.

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Speaker 1: And it wasn't like him asking you a question or debating.

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Speaker 1: He was telling you what it was like.

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Speaker 3: So me and Gerald Ingram got around to fixing it,

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Speaker 3: and I had three fumbles in the last three years

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Speaker 3: of my career.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so is that simple.

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Speaker 2: Giants win their fourth game of the year. They defeat

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys to close out the twenty twenty five season

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Speaker 2: thirty four to seventeen.

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Speaker 5: This is Tyron Tracy Jr.

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Speaker 4: Third and six from the thirteen dark back to throw

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Speaker 4: fires one.

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Speaker 5: Unto the end zone for a touchdown of Tyrone Tracy.

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Speaker 1: Bellinger was there, so is Tracy Dart.

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Speaker 5: Hitch Tracy.

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Speaker 1: His second touchdown pass to the ball game.

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Speaker 4: And now there's pushing and shoving and flags back of

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Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 2: And that thirteen yard touchdown pass of Jackson Dart to

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Speaker 2: Tiwan Tracy, the culmination of a sixth plays sixty two

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Speaker 2: yards I gave the Giants a two score twenty four

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Speaker 2: to ten lead in the third quarter. Is today's play

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Speaker 2: performance a capabilion every turn get behind the will of

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Speaker 2: the new Ford truck RECIV FOURD Toficier truck at SUV

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Speaker 2: of the New York Giants and Tiki I never the

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Speaker 2: most excited I've seen him all year, except for maybe

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Speaker 2: one game early in the year when the Giants beat

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Speaker 2: the Eagles. You are so psyched to see Tyrone Tracy

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Speaker 2: get a second consecutive one thousand scrimmage yards year.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, I'm pumped next year.

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Speaker 2: The Tracy scatterable backfield that is gonna be really fun

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Speaker 2: to watch.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you see it in certain certain places. Guys, the

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Speaker 3: teams that have two good running backs and they're not

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Speaker 3: two different running backs, you.

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Speaker 5: Have to change the scheme. It's the same type of player.

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Speaker 3: They can do the same things, whether it's catching the

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Speaker 3: ball out of the backfield, running between the tackles, or

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Speaker 3: to the edges, whatever it may be. Those two that

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Speaker 3: this is if Cam comes back healthy and the same

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Speaker 3: vigor and attitude, and you know, well he'll have that, right,

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Speaker 3: It's just a if he's gonna be effective doing it

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Speaker 3: like he was at the early part of the season

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Speaker 3: makes it exciting. I Mean, we talked in the pregame

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Speaker 3: John about some of the pieces you can build upon

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Speaker 3: from this season. And someone is a loss, it is

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Speaker 3: a lost season, but you can build upon what Jackson

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Speaker 3: Dart has started to do. You can build on Tyrone Tracy,

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Speaker 3: some of these pieces on the offensive line, Brian Burns,

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Speaker 3: Abdul Carter, et cetera. And then you just gotta start

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Speaker 3: accenting the places that have some deficiencies, whether it's linebacker,

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Speaker 3: depth of cornerback, et cetera, particularly wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: And this team could get good next year.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying they're going to the playoffs or winning

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Speaker 3: twelve games or whatever.

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Speaker 1: It may be.

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Speaker 3: Like you've seen the Jacksonville Jaguars, or the New Emand Patriots,

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Speaker 3: or the Chicago Bears. But with the right coaching staff,

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Speaker 3: this team has talent. It's just a matter of finding

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Speaker 3: and figuring out how to win. I think it was

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Speaker 3: Carl Mecklenberg for the Broncos, Bob with the pick six

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Speaker 3: down mcnill trying to get the top sea.

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Speaker 4: I think it was former Giant Ray Agnew who's now

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Speaker 4: the assistant GM in Detroit.

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Speaker 1: I was talking with him before the game.

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Speaker 5: His I think it was his son.

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Speaker 4: That was Scataboo's running backs coach, at Sacramento State was

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Speaker 4: the last name Lay Yeah, I think it was his

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Speaker 4: running back coach at Sacramine because he is Sacramento. He

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Speaker 4: was bombed that Scataboo was hurt because he really wanted

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Speaker 4: to see He's they're all close with the family, and

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Speaker 4: he was like, listen, Camp Scataboo is a lot better

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Speaker 4: running back then people think he is. Like you know,

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Speaker 4: the whole smashing his head against the wall and the

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Speaker 4: battering ram stuff and all the things that fans fell

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Speaker 4: in love with. He's a lot more skilled as a

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Speaker 4: running back than you think, right, his instincts in his

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Speaker 4: in his avoidability and all these other things. So it'll

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Speaker 4: be interesting to see, uh you know that combination. I

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Speaker 4: still think they probably need to fill the room out

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Speaker 4: a little bit more, But look, they gotta get we

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Speaker 4: don't know when Neighbors is actually going to be back, right,

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Speaker 4: but they gotta they gotta fix this wide receiver room

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Speaker 4: because you just can't keep going into the season this

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Speaker 4: thing wide.

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Speaker 1: Just look at the division, Bob.

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Speaker 3: Every one of these teams have two really good wide

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Speaker 3: receiver as well as Debo where and Andy McLaurin down

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Speaker 3: in Washington, and obviously a j Brown and Andante Smith

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Speaker 3: and Philly and Pickets, and I mean pretty much it's

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Speaker 3: necessary actually in a quarterback driven league.

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Speaker 1: And I think darts ready downstairs, lu see, I didn't

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Speaker 1: hear you.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, okay, And guys, I think it's interesting how

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Speaker 2: you structure it, right, because you have Slaton who's gonna

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Speaker 2: be here for at least one more year on the contract,

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Speaker 2: and that's a.

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Speaker 4: Tough contract to deal with right now, because you want

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Speaker 4: to keep Wandelle Robinson, right.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing. You have neighbors come off to the injury.

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Speaker 2: Then you decide if you're want to sign Wandell, but

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Speaker 2: you probably also just don't want those three guys, right,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna want to add to that, So I don't think,

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Speaker 2: and it's not a great for agency class.

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Speaker 1: You can go out there and pay another veteran wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: so you would have to hand the money, That's what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So you would have to then draft one, and to

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Speaker 2: quote the great Tiki Barber, you don't I'll power phrase

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Speaker 2: to Ticky Barber, you don't want to depend on rookies

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Speaker 2: because that's I know wide receivers A lot of times

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Speaker 2: they do come in and they're ready to go. But

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Speaker 2: even this year, like Matthew Golden, he was not first

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Speaker 2: round pick wide receiver. He didn't give him a ton

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Speaker 2: a mega Buca started really fast. He didn't end up

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Speaker 2: having a because you don't know how to stay healthy.

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Speaker 2: First of all, right, well you don't know the length

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Speaker 2: of the season. It becomes it becomes draining now. But

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Speaker 2: I'm still in favor of drafting one. By the way,

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying it's hard to expect. They got to

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Speaker 2: come in right away and save the room.

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Speaker 4: But then you gotta draft the right one. They traded

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Speaker 4: up for Jaal and Hyatt. The guy has been in

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Speaker 4: the league for three years. He never had a touchdown, catch,

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Speaker 4: any's healthy, scratch. So what they need to do is

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Speaker 4: they need to draft somebody in the second round or

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Speaker 4: third round who is going to eventually, because of athleticism, speed, size, performance,

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Speaker 4: will eventually replace Slayton, but doesn't have to replace him

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Speaker 4: on day one. But but you got to get somebody

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Speaker 4: about you. You can't keep going into the season with

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Speaker 4: him as your number two. You're getting the same production

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Speaker 4: year after year after year.

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Speaker 5: You gotta upgrade it. It's a passing.

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Speaker 2: No and that's the point I was going to, I think,

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Speaker 2: and that's where the high thing is so costly correct.

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Speaker 2: But I think that's I think your point is correct.

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Speaker 2: You take the three guys again, we'll see I won

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Speaker 2: the ramis in his back or not. But if you

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Speaker 2: have those three to hold the fort, and then you

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Speaker 2: develop that wide receiver to move in at some point

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Speaker 2: whenever he's ready, you hopefully it's suit rather than later, right,

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Speaker 2: but you never know what young players.

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Speaker 1: And that's I think how you have to approach the business.

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Speaker 22: Now.

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Speaker 1: It is it is, and that's how other teams have

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Speaker 1: done it. Some teams have done it.

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Speaker 3: The Eagles have done it by trading for a big

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Speaker 3: name wide receiver who was on the outs in his

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Speaker 3: first stop in Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: And they traded up for Devonte's And now you'll trade up.

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Speaker 5: For Devonte Smith. So you have that drafted guy.

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Speaker 3: The question is who can you get in free agency

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Speaker 3: v or via trade if you don't want a draft

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Speaker 3: I think otherwise. I think, Bob, you're right, you got

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Speaker 3: a draft a guy in the second third round.

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Speaker 5: There's a bunch of them. There's a bunch of top

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Speaker 5: hundred receivers.

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Speaker 2: He's always why receivers every year And and I think

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Speaker 2: your instinct is right on this, Bob. If you if

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Speaker 2: you surprise all of us and you're just great right away, fantastic,

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Speaker 2: you're number two.

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Speaker 1: It is what it is.

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Speaker 3: But if you're not, you still have Darius Slayton on

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Speaker 3: this team, who you know, when he learns to catch

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00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 3: the ball more consistently, that he can be a viable

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Speaker 3: piece for Jackson Dart next year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Look, you have to put there are two things cart right.

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Speaker 2: They need weapons and that's what we're talking about right now.

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00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 2: You also need protection and that's the other. And to me,

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Speaker 2: this is the biggest question the Giants have to figure

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Speaker 2: out this offseason, Bob, and you and Carl talked about

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Speaker 2: this a little bit. Jermaine A. Lumino is a free agent.

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Speaker 2: Greg Van rowans a free agent. We gotta figure out

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Speaker 2: who he wants to play again. He might want to retire,

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00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 2: so he's, you know, thirty five years old. We got

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00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 2: to see where he's at. Do you trust Marcus bo

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Speaker 2: to step in and start next year?

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Speaker 1: In Week one?

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Speaker 2: I think he's shown you enough that you think he

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00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 2: might be able to. But given where this offensive line

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00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 2: has been over the past ten years. I think to

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Speaker 2: go away from what worked has a level of risk

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Speaker 2: to it, and you have to decide what's your level

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Speaker 2: of risk acceptance is in terms of that versus how

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Speaker 2: much you might want to have to spend to retain

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Speaker 2: a guy like illumin or where there's look gonna be demand.

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Speaker 2: We saw last year what the offensive tackles made in

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Speaker 2: free agency about look what Dan Moore made as a

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00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 2: free agent from Pittsburgh and l Lumna's probably had a

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Speaker 2: better year than what dan moore had and look at

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Speaker 2: the money that he got. So that, to me is

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00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 2: gonna be the biggest biggest answer the Giants are going

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00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 2: to have to find is how they continue this upward

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Speaker 2: tick of offensive line play. And the other part of

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Speaker 2: that is calmen Brisillo, who's been a three offensive line

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Speaker 2: coach year best one since Pat Flaherty was here.

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Speaker 1: Do you retain him with whomever the new head coach?

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00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 4: And Staph is well, it's you know, how much do

881
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 4: you want to pay a guy who's been a good

882
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 4: player play maybe played his best ball for you, meaning

883
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 4: that with the Giants. But when free agency hits in March,

884
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 4: he'll be thirty one and a half yep heading to

885
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 4: thirty two next December, Like how much do you want

886
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 4: to get into bed with that? And then what do

887
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 4: you do about the guard positions? What do you you know,

888
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 4: the center position. Schmid's was better this year, but I'm

889
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 4: not necessarily sure that he's been what they had drafted

890
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 4: him to be as a second round pick and a

891
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 4: guy as an emerging Pro Bowl caliber play.

892
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 1: And by the way, Runyan's a free agent and Schmid's

893
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: after next year.

894
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 5: Right, so you got to figure all that out. It's

895
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 5: it's very dicey.

896
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 4: The one thing I will say is you could speak

897
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 4: to this because you experienced, uh some coaching changes with

898
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 4: the Giants, But it feels like around the league, offensive

899
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 4: line coaches survive coaching changes. They do more than any

900
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 4: other position because it's the one place where you need continuity.

901
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 4: You need someone who's teaching the same thing over and

902
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 4: over and over and over again, and so guys come

903
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 4: in and they're not relearning how to do certain techniques

904
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 4: or whatever it may be. If Bristillo did say, by

905
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 4: the way, he is on their contract and he would

906
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 4: love to be here, if if he's if if if

907
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 4: wanted he I think they're all under contract for it

908
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 4: sounds that way nice, and so it's just that's gonna

909
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 4: be the decision for the new head coach, and obviously

910
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 4: Joe Shane is a part of that as.

911
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 2: Well, no question about it. We're waiting Jackson dart to

912
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 2: podium downstairs. My understanding is that he should be ready

913
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 2: to go very very soon here. So I'll hang out

914
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 2: and wait for that. But dude, keep drafting offensive lineman two,

915
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 2: Like that's what good teams do. Good the Eagles. Look

916
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 2: at the Cowboys and the teams.

917
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 7: That have this year.

918
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,959
Speaker 4: I was excited about what I saw in training camp

919
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 4: and in the preseason of josh a Zuduit Garden.

920
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: He did a nice job.

921
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden, like when on I

922
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 4: are and then he was designated in return and we

923
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 4: never saw him again. Yeah right, I'd be curious. I mean,

924
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 4: and he's free, right, no one year left, so he's

925
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 4: on a rookie deal. There's no reason for him not

926
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 4: to be back competing for something.

927
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 2: Question now, And I think you came around and you

928
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 2: let him compete in training cap next year. I think

929
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 2: that's absolutely right. All right, let's go down to the

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Speaker 2: podium press conferences are brought to you by met Life,

931
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Speaker 2: the official insurance company of the New York Giants. Here's

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Speaker 2: Jackson Dart after the giants thirty four to seventeen win

933
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Speaker 2: over the Dallas Cowboys. Jackson darts fourth win, the starting

934
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Speaker 2: quarterback in the New York Football Giants four and eighth

935
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Speaker 2: to start his career. It's gonna be very hydrated for

936
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Speaker 2: this press conference as to get ready for him downstairs

937
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Speaker 2: talking to the media for the last time this season.

938
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Speaker 1: After the Giants victory. Here's Jackson done.

939
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Speaker 23: Jackson, could you describe the emotions after this one in

940
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 23: the locker room and everything with this entailed?

941
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, obviously, you know, this was the last

942
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 13: time that this group was able to go out there

943
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 13: on the field together, and we wanted to make the

944
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Speaker 13: most of it, make.

945
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Speaker 14: The opportunities that we had. Mcdobbs, sorry, make the dob

946
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Speaker 14: You can't even talk, emil us.

947
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 16: Are you sick?

948
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 7: No, really, but you're sick.

949
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:39,919
Speaker 14: It's cold.

950
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:40,479
Speaker 1: It's cold.

951
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 13: We just wanted to make the most of our opportunities together,

952
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 13: and I'm just proud of the guys that we were

953
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 13: able to stay together this week and put together a

954
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 13: good plan and then be out there on the field

955
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 13: and compet at a high level. I feel like there

956
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 13: was any guys who you know, really took it off

957
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 13: or lowered the intensity.

958
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 14: So it's way better feeling to win a game like this.

959
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 24: For sure.

960
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 12: What was it like having Gunner in there? And do

961
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 12: you have any quarterback tips for him to set his

962
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 12: feet differently?

963
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 5: Shoot?

964
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 13: I feel bad for him and Chris on that one.

965
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 13: I know that they want they both want that back.

966
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 13: But Gunner played. Gunner played a great game, and he

967
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 13: was very prepared all throughout the week. He's a guy

968
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 13: in the locker room that everybody loves, and I knew that,

969
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 13: you know, him coming up and filling a role this week.

970
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 14: I knew that I was going to get everything that

971
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 14: he had.

972
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Speaker 13: And he's just a guy that competes at a really

973
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 13: high level, who you can trust, who's gonna give it

974
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 13: his all. So I was proud and happy that he

975
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 13: was able to get a hunter today. But yeah, we

976
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 13: we got to talk about that throw for sure.

977
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 14: We can't. We can't let that slide.

978
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 7: Can you talk about how would you describe what you have?

979
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 14: Did you want the play for Daniel Bellinger to score

980
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 14: the touchdown? Oh yeah, just had like a double sided

981
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 14: screen fake to one side.

982
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 13: And the guy got up filled fast. So I was like, crap,

983
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 13: I gotta make something happen here. And uh he kind

984
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 13: of like got my face masks, so maybe stumble a

985
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 13: little bit, and you know, he was kind of a

986
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 13: little Scotch free. Uh so just try to give him

987
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 13: an opportunity. And he got his knees up when he

988
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 13: was running, so he loo he looked goodscing that touchdown

989
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 13: and was happy for him and it was a good

990
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 13: play for our team.

991
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 11: What is that?

992
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 14: That's what's gonna make it happen to Jackson.

993
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 23: You've been able to build a relationship with John Marison

994
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 23: that you've been here, and what does it mean to

995
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 23: to win this one for him?

996
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 14: Yeah, obviously he's going through a lot.

997
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 13: So the fact that he shows up for for us,

998
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 13: still comes to the facility to to work, and.

999
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 14: You know, he's just he loves BALI loves this organization.

1000
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 14: He gives it everything that he has.

1001
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:01,280
Speaker 13: And you know, from my person active and and everybody

1002
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 13: around here just has the utmost respect for him and

1003
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 13: is rooting for him and praying for him.

1004
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 14: And yeah, I just think that he's a.

1005
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 13: He's a special individual and and uh to continue to

1006
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 13: support us while he's going through, you know, probably the

1007
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 13: hardest time of his life right now.

1008
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 14: It just says a lot.

1009
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 7: Obviously you're relatively new.

1010
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.

1011
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 14: It was sweet.

1012
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 13: It's just it was just a good moment for us

1013
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 13: as a team and for him to be the leader

1014
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 13: of our organization for sure.

1015
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 14: So I was definitely happy for that.

1016
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 1: Relatively new and he's dealing with what he's dealing with it.

1017
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 12: How much have you been able to build a relationship

1018
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 12: with him.

1019
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 13: Yeah, we talk like when we have the opportunities, you know,

1020
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 13: when he's at the facility and you know, we are

1021
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 13: texting each other as well. So you know, it's been

1022
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 13: cool to to create that relationship between each other even

1023
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 13: though he's he's going through this, and like I said,

1024
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 13: I have the most respect for him, and you know,

1025
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 13: the day he he's you know, the head of everything

1026
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 13: and bringing me in here. So I was happy that

1027
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 13: we were able to to finish this season with a win.

1028
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 25: Can you talk about the connection with time around Tracy.

1029
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 14: Yeah, Tracy is a baller. He's a guy that can

1030
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 14: do a little bit of everything, and.

1031
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 13: He's just a back that's so dependable in the past game,

1032
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 13: in the run game, and does a good job in

1033
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 13: protections as well, and uh, you know, it's a really

1034
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 13: you know, positive spirit throughout the locker room too, So

1035
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 13: you know, I just I've loved growing a relationship with him,

1036
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 13: and you know, we know that we're gonna play at

1037
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 13: each other for a long time, so you know, this

1038
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 13: was just a a stepping stone for us of what

1039
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 13: we see our future likes. So I was happy for

1040
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,479
Speaker 13: him being able to reach that, uh, that benchmark today

1041
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 13: as well.

1042
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 17: It's been a long losing streak against the Cowboys and

1043
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 17: against Steph trust that specifically, How does it feel for.

1044
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 26: You to be a part of snapping nuts streak for

1045
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 26: those streaks?

1046
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 14: Yeah, honestly, I don't even know what the streak is.

1047
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 5: I believe games.

1048
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,919
Speaker 13: That's crazy, that's that's good, It's not that for sure,

1049
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 13: that's that's a hell of a player. And I know

1050
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 13: that the rivalry between the Cowboys and the Giants go

1051
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 13: way back. So it was definitely, uh a good week

1052
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 13: of prep for us to come out and to you know,

1053
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 13: put on the performance that we did. And at the

1054
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 13: same time, I I haven't been a part of that,

1055
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 13: so you know, hopefully that we can get things back

1056
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 13: on track.

1057
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 24: Jackson, I know you always team.

1058
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: First, but how how good, how satisfied is it for you?

1059
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 24: How good is it for you to finish the year strong,

1060
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 24: two wins, you play really well heading into the UF

1061
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 24: season program.

1062
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 14: Yeah, it's definitely a better feeling than it being flipped.

1063
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 13: But you know, I'm I'm confident in myself every time

1064
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 13: I start to step on the field, you know, I

1065
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 13: feel like, you know, I'm a player who can shift

1066
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 13: the game and change it in a way for our

1067
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 13: team to win. And that's just the kind of confidence

1068
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 13: that I have from how I prepare each and every day,

1069
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 13: how I compete. So I was proud of, you know,

1070
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 13: being able to bounce back, you know, from that Minnesota game,

1071
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 13: and to have two solid weeks to come out with

1072
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 13: with wins going into this offseason.

1073
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Speaker 12: And.

1074
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 14: Things are gonna change here, so we're gonna start doing

1075
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 14: this a lot more.

1076
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 27: Why do you say that?

1077
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 14: But what do you what makes you so certain things

1078
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 14: are gonna change here?

1079
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 12: Like what makes you feel like that you're heading in

1080
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 12: that direction.

1081
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 14: Because there's no other option.

1082
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 5: That's how I see it.

1083
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 13: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna lead in a way

1084
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:43,720
Speaker 13: that's not having the highest expectation of mind with everybody

1085
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 13: around me. And I know that we have the we

1086
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 13: have guys in place, they have that same mindset, and

1087
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 13: you know, I Dual gave a talk at the end

1088
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 13: of the of us breaking it down as well, so

1089
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 13: you know, we just have that energy and and uh

1090
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 13: that oubt look that you know, that's it's just the

1091
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 13: only way that it can go.

1092
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 5: Jackson.

1093
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 28: There there are a number of quarterbacks now specifically this

1094
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 28: year who went through their issues as roleiast Caleb Williams,

1095
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 28: Drake may turn it around. Both those guys are head

1096
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:11,760
Speaker 28: of the playoffs.

1097
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 14: I mean it is that I know you're confident the

1098
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 14: turnar is, but is that.

1099
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 28: What your focus is that this doesn't have to be

1100
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 28: a three four year rebuild. You guys can do it

1101
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 28: next year.

1102
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 13: Absolutely absolutely. I mean, we can't accept what happened this

1103
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 13: year to happen ever again. And uh, I mean I'm

1104
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 13: excited for you know, the off season to grow that

1105
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 13: culture and you know, help put my hand into it.

1106
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 13: But you know it's gonna have me and everybody else

1107
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 13: sick that you know that we're going to be having

1108
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 13: to watch other teams play and uh, we got to

1109
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 13: make sure that we can't we don't let that Upen again.

1110
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 27: Can take a light up the season?

1111
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 14: That's your favorite part. I don't know if I can

1112
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 14: point out one moment.

1113
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 13: I would just say probably just like the relationships that

1114
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 13: I built here for my teammates, to the coaches, to

1115
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 13: everybody involved in the organization.

1116
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 14: There's a lot of really good people here.

1117
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 13: And I don't think that you don't really know what

1118
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 13: you're stepping into at times going up from college to

1119
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 13: the NFL, because you hear it's you know, it's more

1120
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 13: business like, the locker rooms different. But you know, I've

1121
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 13: just been really impressed by the type of character that

1122
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 13: we have in this organization and just grateful to be

1123
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 13: able to make those relationships for a lifetime.

1124
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 12: Jackson, I know you've been focused on your primary job,

1125
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 12: professional job, but have you been sneaking a peek at

1126
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 12: your alma made and what do you think they're bul chaining?

1127
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 7: Hell? Yeah, we're rolling, We're rolling.

1128
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 14: I'm excited.

1129
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,439
Speaker 13: I'm gonna I'm gonna be at the game this next

1130
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 13: one in Arizona and supporting those guys and they got

1131
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 13: a squad, and they got a lot of guys who

1132
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 13: are playing with the chip on their shoulder and with

1133
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 13: a purpose. So I'm excited to see them go make

1134
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 13: a run at it. And uh, it's gonna be a

1135
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 13: really cool thing to be to able to to experience

1136
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 13: from the outside.

1137
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 23: And talking about the touchdown past the Bellinger, Belander said

1138
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 23: that there's just something about you that makes believing impossible

1139
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 23: as possible from your perspective. What about your gay or

1140
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,919
Speaker 23: your personality or how your approach things allows other people

1141
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 23: to believe in you.

1142
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 13: Mm, that's very nice for him to say. I just

1143
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 13: try to give everything that I have when I'm on

1144
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 13: the field. I try to be a spark.

1145
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 14: And I definitely want, you know, people to believe because

1146
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 14: I believe.

1147
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 13: And I think that's really the biggest thing is I

1148
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 13: have the most confidence regardless of who's playing today. You know,

1149
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 13: we had offensively, it wasn't like we went out there

1150
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 13: with our you know, our starters. You know, we had

1151
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 13: a lot of guys down and I just have the

1152
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 13: utmost confidence and all the guys around me to make plays.

1153
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 14: And I try to give that belief to everybody around me.

1154
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 13: And you know, I just want the guys to know that,

1155
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 13: you know, regardless of the situation, I'm gonna give it

1156
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 13: my all to win a game.

1157
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 14: And uh, you know that was that was very nice.

1158
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 2: I'm to say, thank God that is Jackson Dart. Before

1159
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 2: we take a time out, guys, I want to get

1160
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 2: to one more piece of sound. I want to throw

1161
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 2: one quote out there that Dart said that I thought

1162
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 2: was just emblematic of his attitude, which I think you

1163
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 2: have to like, we cannot accept this year and allow

1164
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 2: it to happen. Ever again, now easier said than done,

1165
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 2: of course, obviously, but that, Tiaki, is what you want.

1166
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 3: It's what you want from leaders, you want from your

1167
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 3: coaches as we were talking about earlier, to set the expectation,

1168
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 3: but it also has to happen from the player standpoint

1169
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 3: as well. The players talk to each other a lot

1170
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 3: more than the coaches do, and so you got to

1171
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 3: have those guys that understand what it takes to win

1172
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 3: and then are pushing that down on the rest of

1173
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 3: the team. And Jackson Dart is going to be important.

1174
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 3: He's one of those guys that has to do that.

1175
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 3: I think Brian Burns on the defensive side of the ball,

1176
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 3: as someone who has to do that. And the more

1177
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 3: more of that you get, the easier it becomes to

1178
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 3: start pulling the sled in the same direction. And so

1179
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 3: I think you speak it and it sounds cliche, but

1180
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 3: let's face it, man, in the NFL, you live by cliches.

1181
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 5: It's just right.

1182
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 3: It's all stupid stuff that doesn't mean anything in the

1183
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 3: real world, but it means something to football players because

1184
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 3: it's true. I mean, it's it's one of the sports

1185
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 3: are one of the few professions where you get judged immediately.

1186
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:27,959
Speaker 1: It's not like, let's wait to the quarter.

1187
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 3: Let's see how our quarter is not even not a

1188
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 3: football quarter, I mean like a quarter of the year,

1189
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 3: and let's do an evaluation. Let's wait, do we get

1190
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 3: to the and see if we get we get do

1191
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 3: I get a bonus at the end of the year.

1192
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 3: I mean, you get judged every single week, and it's

1193
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 3: a it's a it's it's just constant reiterations of trying

1194
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 3: to do the right things over and over and over again.

1195
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 3: It's and it's not easy because the other team is

1196
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 3: paid too, and the other team is coached well too.

1197
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 3: And you know, if the Giants can find a way

1198
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 3: to create a heightened expectation where failure, as Jackson Dart

1199
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 3: just was alluding to, is simply not an option.

1200
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: You're going to get better.

1201
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 4: Well, it brings me to a point that I wanted

1202
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 4: to make because Tiki, you could relate to this a

1203
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 4: little bit. So Giant quarterbacks Phil Simms twice, Joe Pizarchik,

1204
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones, Kent Graham, Tommy DeVito as rookies were zero

1205
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,760
Speaker 4: and six against the Cowboys. The only Giant rookie quarterback

1206
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 4: to ever beat the Dallas Cowboys was Eli Manning in

1207
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 4: two thousand and four in the final game of the season.

1208
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 4: The season against the Cowboys, and Eli Jackson Dart happened

1209
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 4: to play at Old Miss. Eli played at Old Miss

1210
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 4: and and Tiki, you know, you know Eli, he came

1211
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,919
Speaker 4: from a winning family. He came He's got a brother

1212
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 4: who was already a stud in the league. His father

1213
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 4: was a fantastic player, Like there was something about him

1214
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,399
Speaker 4: right where he was gonna That game kind of catapulted

1215
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 4: him to become a better player, and you made the

1216
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 4: playoffs each of the next two years. It feels like

1217
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 4: Jackson Dart, although he expresses it one hundred and eighty

1218
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 4: degrees opposite of the way, and Eli would like what

1219
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 4: this game for him personally as far as his growth

1220
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 4: could mean, Like it was for Eli.

1221
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 5: Now Eli had you, Eli.

1222
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 4: Had Plexico, Eli had Jeremy Shockey, Eli had him moning

1223
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 4: tomor I kill you it Still Eli had a really

1224
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 4: good offensive line that was starting to grow, and he

1225
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 4: had a defense that was a lot better than this defense.

1226
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: Right.

1227
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 4: But with that all said, what did it mean for

1228
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 4: you and your What do you think it meant for

1229
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 4: Eli winning that game as far.

1230
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: As that next step, I think it was it was

1231
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 1: something you could carry over.

1232
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 3: And we had this conversation John and I in the

1233
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 3: pregame three games or so, and again.

1234
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 5: It's never about the team.

1235
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 3: All the team's gonna win this game and then next

1236
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 3: year they're gonna carry that momentum.

1237
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 1: That works if you have the same coach.

1238
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 3: Dan Campbell was the example we brought up when they

1239
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,720
Speaker 3: went three and thirteen and immediately start well, not immediately

1240
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 3: because they started that next season, oh, win six or

1241
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 3: seven whatever it was, but then they end up winning

1242
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 3: a bunch of games and almost made the playoffs, and

1243
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 3: so momentum matters when the coaching is consistent, but winning

1244
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 3: matters for individuals when you know there's a quarterback or

1245
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 3: a coach change around the corner. And that's what the

1246
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 3: Giants are facing right now. And so it's about Abdul

1247
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 3: Carter figuring out his process, how he's going to go

1248
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:22,720
Speaker 3: through a week, how he's going to get there early,

1249
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 3: how he's going to do the go the extra mile

1250
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 3: in order to try to be great and want to

1251
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 3: be great. And I think the Giants have players that

1252
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 3: are starting to figure that out. This is a young team, man.

1253
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 3: They were the fourth youngest team in the NFL to

1254
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 3: start the season, and again they probably got younger because

1255
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 3: of all the young players that ended up having to

1256
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 3: play as the season went on.

1257
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 5: And you learn something, and you learn something by winning.

1258
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 5: This is why winning.

1259
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 3: Despite the draft hit that it's going to take, you're

1260
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 3: no longer in the driver's seat to be you know,

1261
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 3: to get the second pick of the draft, or even

1262
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 3: the first pick of the draft that they had lost,

1263
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 3: depending on what happens with the Las Vegas Raiders. But

1264
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 3: that almost doesn't matter. They're gonna draft too. They're gonna draft.

1265
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 3: It's all about creating the situation where everybody starts to

1266
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 3: feel comfortable. And I know for Eli he felt really

1267
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 3: comfortable going into a second year, and it's the reason

1268
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 3: we won ten games in two thousand and five. And

1269
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 3: I think Jackson Dart is starting to get there where

1270
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 3: he started to feel like, all right, I get this,

1271
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,439
Speaker 3: I understand it now, and I know what it's gonna

1272
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,439
Speaker 3: take in order for us to get to be really

1273
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:23,919
Speaker 3: good in twenty twenty six.

1274
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Giants, by the way, right now, as

1275
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,280
Speaker 2: Tiki mentioned, will be picking anywhere between third and sixth,

1276
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 2: depending on the results of the Jets game with the

1277
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills. That game right now, the Bills lead fourteenth

1278
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 2: to nothing. The game Rams and Cardinals, that game is

1279
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 2: tied at six, despite the fact the Rams are actually

1280
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 2: playing their guys this week. That game tied at six,

1281
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 2: and then the o they gain to keep an eye

1282
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 2: is the Patriots and the Dolphins. Patriots lead that game

1283
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 2: fourteen to seven. Dolphins are about to punt it deep

1284
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 2: in their own territory. Who yours is actually played pretty

1285
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 2: well for the Dolphins, and the chance he's got the play.

1286
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 1: Good for him.

1287
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 4: Whether they're picking third or six, man, it doesn't really matter.

1288
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 4: You'd better pick the right players correct. Unfortunately they've been picking.

1289
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 4: But it feels like third and six for the last

1290
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 4: five years.

1291
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 3: Right, you're having right, No, you're absolutely some of them

1292
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 3: have worked, right, League Dabors you know in theory, he's

1293
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,919
Speaker 3: gonna work because he was. He's a young star player.

1294
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 3: And it looks like Abdul Carter's gonna looks like Abdul

1295
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 3: Carter started to turn that corner. But it's all about

1296
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 3: stacking it. It's stacking success and that's winning games on

1297
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 3: Sunday afternoons. But it's also drafting well and developing.

1298
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 1: Those guys well.

1299
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 2: And I always say this, there's always gonna be a

1300
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 2: guy that's available to be picked that's going to be

1301
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 2: a very good football player.

1302
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: You just got to figure out which guy it's gonna be.

1303
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: And that's where it gets tough.

1304
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 2: You got to have good coaching stuff to develop those players,

1305
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 2: because is one thing to pick them. You could pick

1306
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 2: a guy that has a talent to be good. If

1307
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 2: you don't have the right coach to develop them, it's

1308
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 2: not gonna matter. All right, quick time out, we'll come back,

1309
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 2: we'll wrap things up on our network, We'll open up

1310
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 2: the phone lines, we'll talk more Giants football with you.

1311
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 2: They defeat the Dallas Cowboys thirty four to seventeen to

1312
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 2: close out their year.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 6: You are listening to Giants Extra Point on the WFAN

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Speaker 6: Giants Radio Network.

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Speaker 5: This is Tyrone Tracy Jr.

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Speaker 21: And you're listening to Giants football on the Fan w

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Speaker 21: f AN and w f AN FM, New York.

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Speaker 1: Back here on Giants extra Point.

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Speaker 2: Giants defeat the Dallas Cowboys thirty four to seventeen to

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00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 2: close out the year. Over one hundred scrimmage yards for

1322
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 2: Tyrone Tracy, a thousand for the year. Part of me

1323
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 2: now the second consecutive year, he said, more than one

1324
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 2: thousand scrimmage yards.

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00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 1: Tracy, just a very good game overall today.

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00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 2: In this game, he had one hundred and three rushing yards,

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00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 2: fifty six receiving yards or one hundred and fifty nine

1328
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 2: yards and scrimmage again to give him one thousand yards

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00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 2: for the second straight year to start his career.

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00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: Let's listen to Tyrone Tracy downstairs.

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00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 22: Not the touchdown.

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00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: How did the feeling you here that the players saw? Tyrone?

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00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, honestly, I'd be soone to I.

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00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 21: Can't even hear it, but my mom and the obviousity

1335
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 21: and town y off stuff.

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Speaker 1: But the touchdown was nice.

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00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 21: It was actually a different look that we that we

1338
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 21: got the whole week that came out of man we

1339
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 21: was preparing for quarters. But you know, obviously a touchdown

1340
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 21: and touchdown, I'm just uh blessed that you know, he.

1341
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 2: Threw the ball.

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00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 14: Thousand yards.

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00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 7: Scrimmage from scrimmage.

1344
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 8: Has that feel to you, and especially at the end

1345
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 8: of that game, it felt like they were trying to

1346
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 8: get you the ball, was it.

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00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 21: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think they knew what I needed,

1348
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 21: you know going in, I knew what I needed going in.

1349
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 21: But to be honest, I that really wasn't on the

1350
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 21: forefront of my mind. Obviously I wanted to have a

1351
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 21: good game, but I just you can't really press to

1352
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 21: you know, for the yards, you can't press to make

1353
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 21: a play. You really just got allowed to come to you.

1354
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 21: And that's really just had a g game win. If

1355
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 21: you watch it, like I had a couple runs that

1356
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 21: it was you know, one yard, two yards. I had

1357
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 21: a couple catches that was you know, zero yards, one yard,

1358
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 21: But like as the game goes, you'd allowed the game

1359
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 21: to come to you and uh, you know, I got

1360
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 21: amazing o line up front that's doing you know, amazing

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00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 21: jobs and tight ends and doing work.

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00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 5: Uh quarterback, that's looking for me to get.

1363
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 7: Me the ball.

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Speaker 21: So uh yeah, whenever we have, you know, a offense

1365
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 21: like that that's really working with you, you know, good

1366
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 21: things happen.

1367
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Speaker 14: How was it the year afterwards giving the game ball

1368
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 14: to John Mara? It was a It was amazing.

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Speaker 22: Man.

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Speaker 21: Obviously he's going through something that a lot of us

1371
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 21: can't even think of in fathom. So for us to

1372
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 21: give him the ball, like that's really just us, you know,

1373
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 21: telling him, like, but we we here with you. You know,

1374
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 21: we're we're thinking of you, we're praying for you, and

1375
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 21: just want him to know that, like, you know, you're

1376
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 21: not in a salone.

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Speaker 1: He's always than his father was always a beating the

1378
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Speaker 1: Cowboys is different.

1379
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Speaker 21: Yeah, oh yeah, I think I think this is I

1380
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 21: wanna say, this is what the first time in like

1381
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 21: four year or something like that that would beat on

1382
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 21: or not in a row. You see, that's longer than

1383
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 21: our thought, you know what I'm saying. But yeah, to

1384
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 21: get to get a win today was obviously big for

1385
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 21: the end of the season, but also going into next

1386
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 21: season and obviously feel a little bit better when you

1387
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 21: beat the Cowboys.

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Speaker 14: What did Jackson show you today, you know, closing out

1389
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Speaker 14: this freaky season?

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Speaker 21: Yeah, I mean really, I won't even say today really

1391
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 21: just the end of the season. Obviously it didn't the

1392
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 21: season wasn't going as we wanted. But he never wavered,

1393
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 21: he never lost confidence, never lost faith, the true leader,

1394
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 21: leader of men. So when you have that, you know,

1395
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 21: as your quarterback, as your core piece, it's I'm not

1396
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 21: gonna say it's easy, but it's easier to build around

1397
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 21: it because you have that that person that's leading the

1398
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 21: team and a lot of the things that the coach

1399
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Speaker 21: says that he don't really have to say because you know,

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01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 21: we have a quarterback that's going.

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Speaker 14: To say it, like that little ba can flip the balancher.

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01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 21: Oh yeah, he's a he's a he's a baller, man,

1403
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 21: he's a baller. Like you can't teach that, Like you can,

1404
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 21: you can watch film, you can, you can study, you

1405
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 21: can do everything, but like you can't teach you know,

1406
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 21: how to ball when when the lights come on, and

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01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 21: that he's just that's just an instinct and obviously he's

1408
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 21: been doing that since since he was you know, little,

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01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 21: so when he does it now, it's probably second nature

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01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 21: to him.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 3: One thing that, uh, that Mike Kafka said in his

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Speaker 3: press conference for referencing Tyrone Tracy is that he's a

1414
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 3: third player in Giant history to start his first two

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01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 3: seasons with a thousand plus yards.

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Speaker 5: The other two were Odell Beckham juniors. We all remember who.

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Speaker 3: Had those two exceptional years to start his career, and

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01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 3: then say Quon Barkley. In the history of the New

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01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 3: York Giants, it hasn't happened a lot. And we were

1420
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 3: trying to figure it out because.

1421
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 4: We like, who is he talking about in the scrimmage archs,

1422
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 4: because we were looking at like Joe Marris.

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01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 5: But then we realized first two years.

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01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 2: Right, and I think we're also looking at running back first,

1425
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 2: and well like running backs like we couldn't think so

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01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 2: who the second guy was, because I did.

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Speaker 1: I didn't figure it out till two thousand.

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01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 3: So it took it took some time for some guy,

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01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 3: for some of these for some of the players in

1430
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Speaker 3: Giant history to become the players that they ultimately were,

1431
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 3: you know, these Ring of Honor guys.

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Speaker 5: But Tyrone.

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01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 3: Tracy has done it from the very beginning, and we

1434
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 3: saw it last year. I'll never forget it was up

1435
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 3: it was out in uh uh was that San Diego?

1436
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 1: Who was that? Who was it?

1437
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 5: They played?

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01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 1: Not San Diego?

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01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 3: It was I was calling the game, and I can't remember.

1440
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 3: But he broke off a couple of seattle, a couple

1441
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 3: of big runs and setting up blocks and and just

1442
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 3: very good vision for a guy who's only playing running

1443
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 3: back for the third time, our third season in his

1444
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 3: in his young career, obviously once in college. In these

1445
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 3: first two years. He's got great instincts and he can

1446
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 3: catch the ball down the field. It's so valuable in

1447
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 3: today's offense, so it be impressive.

1448
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 1: But they played San Diego last year. It's just funny,

1449
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 1: all right.

1450
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 2: Kutchewski with one hundred yards receiving today, one hundred plus

1451
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 2: yards receiving today. He spoke to the media after the

1452
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 2: game as well. Let's listen to gout her dad steps

1453
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 2: got a what.

1454
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 1: A way for you to finish off this year.

1455
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 22: Considering training camp, you weren't sure what was going to happen.

1456
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 22: Then you come in late after they had an injury,

1457
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 22: and now look at the way this thing finished off.

1458
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: Could you even imagine it.

1459
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 22: Would go this?

1460
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 1: Well, No, I really couldn't, And.

1461
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 29: I couldn't imagine that I'd missed Chris Manhert's buttonnaked in

1462
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 29: the end.

1463
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 1: That's what I'm most on my mind right now.

1464
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 29: But it was awesome to go out like that. Shout

1465
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 29: out all the guys who shot dark believing in me

1466
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 29: throwing the ball. They's a lot of fun, most fun

1467
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 29: I've ever.

1468
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 1: Had a plogion.

1469
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 30: How much trouble did Chris give you after that?

1470
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 14: Fast men, He ain't give me none.

1471
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 1: It's on my phone. It's all the rest of the guys.

1472
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 22: That's that's all me, needless to say, your first one

1473
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 22: hundred yard game as receiver with anybody in the NFL

1474
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 22: in your life too, not just also college.

1475
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:53,919
Speaker 14: Sure, yeah, I didn't play receiver in college.

1476
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 22: So yeah, all right, So that's got to be a

1477
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 22: pretty pretty proud moment, especially since you came in the

1478
01:02:58,880 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 22: game when a.

1479
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 1: Lot of people share doesn't really matter.

1480
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 29: Sure, yeah, maybe it don't matter to them, but all

1481
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 29: the guys who put on his jersey and put on

1482
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 29: his helm and it matters to us, you know. So

1483
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 29: it was a lot of fun to go out there

1484
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 29: and do what my team needed me to do, step

1485
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 29: up in a situation when somebody gets hurt, and that's

1486
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 29: what you as a backup special team.

1487
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 14: That's kind of what your job is.

1488
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 1: Son, and I.

1489
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 22: Think that's important for people to understand because you're not

1490
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 22: a first round draft pick, right, You're one of those

1491
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 22: guys on the depth chart.

1492
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 1: You play special teams for.

1493
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:28,439
Speaker 22: You, especially Pride, and getting wins is a critical deal

1494
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 22: for sure.

1495
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 29: Yeah, nothing's guaranteed for guys like me, and I wouldn't

1496
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 29: have it any other way.

1497
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 31: So you know, every time I.

1498
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 29: Step on the field, off a fight to keep doing

1499
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 29: what I love to do.

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01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 1: So that's how I look at it.

1501
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 7: How much you know, playing with Jackson Dart, I love

1502
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 7: it more.

1503
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 1: Than any day.

1504
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 29: Man. I was at ninety eight yards and they had

1505
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 29: a different play called and Jackson was like, we gotta

1506
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 29: get him two more yards and he just went a

1507
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 29: huddle called his own play called my shot, and I

1508
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,959
Speaker 29: was like, my guy, bro, I love you so Happy

1509
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 29: New Year, man.

1510
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 2: And all jokes aside. That's what makes a guy a leader.

1511
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 2: When do you help out your guys like that.

1512
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 3: Again, it's a perfluous means nothing, but it means something.

1513
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 3: It means something to the players, and it means something

1514
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 3: to the to the team.

1515
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 5: You sell it.

1516
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 3: You want to celebrate guys' success, and we saw that

1517
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 3: last week with Deontay Banks. After giving up the touchdown,

1518
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 3: he returns the kickoff for a touchdown. Now you see

1519
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 3: with Gunner one of those guys who's a grind it

1520
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 3: glue guy, and you know who knows what his future

1521
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 3: is here with the New York Giants, but I think

1522
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 3: he's proven when when called upon, he can be an

1523
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 3: effective slot guy. He can be a receiver as well.

1524
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 3: I talked about it at halftime, John. I love his hands.

1525
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 3: His hands are so soft, they're like vacuums. And he

1526
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 3: always is catching the ball consistently the same way. And

1527
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 3: he's been a reliable returner for this team for the

1528
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 3: last two years.

1529
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 5: So let me tell you the story about and.

1530
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 2: By the way, great job Totino getting him his Gunner

1531
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 2: is a great dude, does not love doing media.

1532
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 1: Excellent job by Paul getting him in the locker room.

1533
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 1: And he's loosened up a little bit.

1534
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 5: Yes, he has loosened up.

1535
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 4: Like I said, I've gotten ah know him a little

1536
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 4: bit from hanging out in the office the back of

1537
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 4: the cafteria. But he grew up in Alvin, Texas, where

1538
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 4: the famous Nolan Ryan was born and raised. He winds

1539
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 4: up playing college football in Minnesota at Pamigee State now

1540
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 4: Bamigi Bigie.

1541
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 1: It almost sounds like a joke. Where go to school Bamigi.

1542
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 4: Bamigie is famous for. That's like the curling capital of

1543
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 4: the United States. That's where all the curling is in

1544
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 4: the United States. A lot of the curling sheets and

1545
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 4: all that stuff were in Bamigie, and they that's where

1546
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 4: most of the curlers come from in the Olympic ice sport.

1547
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 5: Bob knows this from calling the Olympics. Yeah, but think

1548
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 5: about this.

1549
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 4: The guy played cornerback at Pemigee State, right, and then

1550
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 4: Bill Belichick identified him and figured out that this could

1551
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 4: be another Edelman or something like that.

1552
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 1: It never really turned out to that level or.

1553
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 2: At least like a Matthew Slater type, right like especial

1554
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 2: teams aysh And.

1555
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 4: He kind of hung around hunting around. He found his nitch.

1556
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 4: Remember he had the return for a touchdown last year

1557
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 4: for the Giants. He catches the ball he doesn't fumble

1558
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 4: the ball. I mean the ferocious hit he took in

1559
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 4: Foxboro on that kickoff return, I don't think anybody would

1560
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 4: have held onto that one.

1561
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 5: And he was unconscious. Yeah, so he's a good receiver.

1562
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 5: I listen.

1563
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 4: I know people were joking, but like, I was at

1564
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 4: practice on Wednesday and Thursday, so I sat through or

1565
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 4: was there for the ninety minute practice with my sons

1566
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 4: and then the two hour practice on Thursday, and the

1567
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 4: energy level a practice was fantastic.

1568
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 1: It has been all year.

1569
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 4: And I was saying to my sons, I'm like, man,

1570
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 4: because Wandell had the ribs and he wasn't practicing and

1571
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 4: he was getting treatment, and I'm like, dude, look at

1572
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 4: all these rocks they got gun and Gunner was dominating

1573
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 4: in practice.

1574
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 1: He did it in the summer too, when he got opportunities.

1575
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 4: And I'm like, I think Gunner's gonna have a big,

1576
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 4: big game this Sunday, And uh, good for him because

1577
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 4: he's I mean, like what his body goes through. Yeah,

1578
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 4: he's not the biggest guy in the world, and but

1579
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 4: he is not scared. He's fearless when he catches those

1580
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 4: slants and stuff over them.

1581
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 2: But he is the right type of crazy to be

1582
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 2: successful in the National Football It's interesting when you talk

1583
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 2: about that practice because it seems like it's an afterthought,

1584
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 2: you just just going through the motions.

1585
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 3: But how you practice matters because it starts to build

1586
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 3: trust with your quarterback. And when you practice hard, you know,

1587
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 3: you start to understand what it's gonna take to play

1588
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 3: on Sundays. And I think Gunner is one of those

1589
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 3: guys that he's so necessary for teams. Not saying he's

1590
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 3: necessary for the Giants going forward, but guys like that

1591
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 3: are necessary because they give an example even if they're

1592
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 3: not the star.

1593
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 4: And Bellinger had great practices this week too, and it

1594
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 4: was good to see him get that catch and ron

1595
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 4: for a touchdown.

1596
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 2: All Right, I got a trivia question for you guys.

1597
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 2: How many other players have gone to the NFL from

1598
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 2: bendimidgi State.

1599
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 5: I don't know. I'm gonna I'm gonna guess too, and

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01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 5: I have no idea who they are. I'm just guessing.

1601
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 1: I can't think.

1602
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 5: I think there was a guy that played for the

1603
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 5: Vikings that was on that.

1604
01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 1: That is correct.

1605
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 2: There are two players, Tiki, you are also correct, So

1606
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 2: the player that was on the Vikings is Brian Leonhardt.

1607
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 1: It was a tight hand.

1608
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 5: I remember that played sixty.

1609
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 1: This what happens when when you build boards and you

1610
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 1: do your own boards, you remember.

1611
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 4: Guys like Brian because I never forget the first time

1612
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 4: I rode it into my boards, like Bigie who.

1613
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:19,679
Speaker 5: Well, only because I did the I did.

1614
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:22,679
Speaker 4: Curling right two thousand and two Olympics in Salt Lake City,

1615
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:25,839
Speaker 4: that I'm familiar with this curling culture.

1616
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 1: So he had.

1617
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 2: He played for the Vikings from twenty fourteen to twenty fifteen.

1618
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:34,640
Speaker 2: And then running back Al Wolden don't remember who was

1619
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 2: a one year running back in nineteen eighty seven. He

1620
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 2: ended up playing for the Chicago Bears.

1621
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 5: Was a strike player, had you know what?

1622
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 1: I bet you he was.

1623
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,719
Speaker 2: He had two He had two carries for eight yards

1624
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 2: and one catch for twenty six yards that year. So

1625
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 2: those are the two other players that went to Bimbigie State,

1626
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 2: which I thought was a fun trivia question. That's like that,

1627
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 2: pop they were one of the guys played for the Vikings.

1628
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 2: That's crazy. I cannot believe he remembered that because I

1629
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 2: remember trap Bob, Well, what year was it? Twenty fourteen?

1630
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 2: I mean I had done the Olympics and O two.

1631
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 2: So but midgee now stuck in my head. And this

1632
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 2: is not a curl you hear about it.

1633
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 5: It is not sending like that. I mean, all right,

1634
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:17,600
Speaker 5: but this is the cur the curling athletes of the

1635
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 5: studs at that school.

1636
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 2: This is your last segment of the season with us,

1637
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:22,759
Speaker 2: So we're going to say go by to the network.

1638
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,839
Speaker 2: Give me your final thoughts, either looking back or looking ahead,

1639
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 2: whatever you want to say.

1640
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 1: Before we say, before you say goodbye for the year.

1641
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 4: I always wonder what would happen if the defensive coordinator

1642
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:38,679
Speaker 4: change would have happened earlier, because, uh, you know, after

1643
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 4: the Dallas game in which you had a lead with

1644
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 4: twenty five seconds to go, and then you look at

1645
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 4: some of the ensuing games over the course of the season,

1646
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 4: that might have been the difference because they lost a

1647
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:52,639
Speaker 4: whole bunch of games that they had a chance to win.

1648
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 4: And even the Denver game that should have been the

1649
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:58,760
Speaker 4: straw that broke the camel's back, you would think, and

1650
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:02,639
Speaker 4: I even think back to that second Philadelphia game, even

1651
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 4: though Saquan went off like they couldn't get stops right,

1652
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 4: you know, Thibodeau should have had a force fumble and

1653
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:14,600
Speaker 4: stop Philadelphiam scoring on that Toush push. But just the

1654
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 4: inability to ever figure out a way to utilize the

1655
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 4: best players. The decision came way too late.

1656
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 1: I still don't think we're talking about a playoff team though.

1657
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 1: I don't think.

1658
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:26,560
Speaker 4: I'm thinking you're looking I'm thinking you're looking at a

1659
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 4: team that's gonna potentially finish the year seven and ten.

1660
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 3: I think that's possible. And then maybe the staff is

1661
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 3: not turning over correct that's possible.

1662
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 4: I mean, so I always wonder about that, and then

1663
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 4: looking ahead, look to your timeline is gonna get filled up, John,

1664
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 4: your timeline is gonna get filled up. The marin Tige

1665
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 4: family are not consulting with us as to what's gonna happen.

1666
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:53,639
Speaker 4: Whatever is gonna happen is gonna happen. But the head

1667
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 4: coaching higher is going to be absolutely huge because the

1668
01:10:57,400 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 4: one thing that we do have coming out of this.

1669
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 5: It looks like we have a quarterback and that's the

1670
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 5: most important piece of that.

1671
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 2: And you have to continue because he's not a finished product.

1672
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 2: You have to continue to develop him.

1673
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 4: And you know, unlike Eli, who we knew Coughlin would

1674
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 4: still be there, and Gil Bride and all those Mike Pope,

1675
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 4: the tight end coach, and the Flowherty and we knew

1676
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:16,639
Speaker 4: all those.

1677
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 5: Guys would be there.

1678
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 4: We don't know who's going to be here moving forward,

1679
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 4: but it certainly looks like he has the potential to

1680
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 4: be a quarterback that can get you to the winner

1681
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 4: circle and got to start winning some division games when

1682
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 4: it matters. They did beat Philadelphia, and Jackson Dart was

1683
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 4: a big part of that. So hopefully that's the thing

1684
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 4: to build around moving forward, because I think, you know, look,

1685
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 4: what's the record here since in the last three years.

1686
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 1: I mean it's bad. Yeah, it's been bad.

1687
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 4: And the fans they pay a lot of money and

1688
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 4: they they support the team through thick and thin, and

1689
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 4: it's just been too much thin and we want to

1690
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 4: see it better.

1691
01:11:58,200 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 1: All right, Bob, We'll talk to you next year, my friend,

1692
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 1: and enjoy your off season. Oh yeah, hell, please stick

1693
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 1: with us.

1694
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 2: If you're listening on our local flagship station, WFAN. But

1695
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 2: it is time right now to say goodbye to the

1696
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 2: affiliates across the country on the Giants Radio Network. Thank

1697
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 2: you so much for listening to us today and all

1698
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 2: season long. For continuing coverage of the Giants this offseason,

1699
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,679
Speaker 2: go to Giants dot Com, the Giants App, Giants YouTube channel.

1700
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:23,520
Speaker 1: We have coverage of the Giants.

1701
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 2: All off season, including Big Blue Kickoff Live, which comes

1702
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 2: your way every weekday at twelve thirty.

1703
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:28,879
Speaker 1: We have the Giants Little Podcast.

1704
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 2: We have our draft season podcasts which you can find

1705
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 2: that the Giants Podcast Network, podcast feed, and of course

1706
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 2: on the Giants YouTube channel. Again, thank you to all

1707
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 2: of our listeners across the country on the Giants Radio

1708
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 2: Network and all of our affiliates.

1709
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 1: We appreciate you.

1710
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 2: Being with us all season long. The Giants close out

1711
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 2: the season with a victory. They defeat the Dallas Cowboys

1712
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 2: thirty four to seventeen. The end of season at four

1713
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:53,600
Speaker 2: and thirteen. We will see you in August on the

1714
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 2: Wfan Giants where you do a network, but we'll see

1715
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 2: you in New York on w f AN for the

1716
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 2: next forty five minutes or so. Tiky, Barbara and I

1717
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:07,599
Speaker 2: will be joined by Paul Detino. We'll take your calls

1718
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 2: at eight eight one zero, one to nine.

1719
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 1: More sound from the locker room as well.

1720
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:13,639
Speaker 2: We'll here from some of the vets on this team

1721
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 2: on what they're thinking and talking about heading into the offseason.

1722
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,560
Speaker 1: We'll be back with that and more right after this.

1723
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 11: This is Brian Burns and you're listening to Giants Football

1724
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 11: on the fan w f AN and w FAN FM,

1725
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 11: New York.

1726
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 2: Back here on Giants Extra point. Giants beat the Cowboys

1727
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 2: thirty four to seventeen. Let's hear from Brian Burns down

1728
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 2: in the locker room before we get.

1729
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 1: To your calls.

1730
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 22: So, Brian, you cap off the season with a couple

1731
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 22: of wins, and I know somebody who works after w

1732
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 22: lost like you do, this has gotta be a much

1733
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:48,559
Speaker 22: better feeling.

1734
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:50,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's good to go out on the win.

1735
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 11: Wresday n An, what.

1736
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 22: Did you see from this? A fast last month of

1737
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 22: the season that makes you feel an off your life

1738
01:13:57,800 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 22: Betle going into the off season.

1739
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 11: I feel like we played a little bit faster. You know,

1740
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 11: we've got to be getting ball out in the last

1741
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 11: four or five weeks.

1742
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:08,640
Speaker 14: I think we got like eight of lasts, So you know,

1743
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:09,719
Speaker 14: that's a big jump, Doons.

1744
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:11,719
Speaker 5: I might be wrong with a little bit on those numbers,

1745
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 5: but we.

1746
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 14: Definitely got the ball out a lot more so that's

1747
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:15,719
Speaker 14: a big jump for us, and that's what never needed.

1748
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 1: It's a lot of when you shure with te you

1749
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 1: never know who's gonna.

1750
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 22: Be back, coaches, players, when when the season ends you

1751
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 22: how much do you think about that a little more?

1752
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 1: And this is the last game you'll play with all these.

1753
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 11: Guys in this Really I think about it pretty often

1754
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 11: as a recent you know, just because I got so much,

1755
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:35,560
Speaker 11: you know, excite man, and you know, I believe in

1756
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 11: this team.

1757
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 5: I believe in the pieces that we got.

1758
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 14: So I have been thinking about it a little bit.

1759
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 22: What would do The one message you have the Giants

1760
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 22: fans going into this offseason to tell a little bit

1761
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:45,679
Speaker 22: their pis optimism for twenty twenty six.

1762
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 14: I feel like we had it in the right direction.

1763
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:51,520
Speaker 11: We have our guy, you know, and we have cornerstone

1764
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 11: pieces on each side of the ball, and you know,

1765
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:56,679
Speaker 11: there's nothing but to be excited crying.

1766
01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:58,759
Speaker 26: What does it matter that going in the next season

1767
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 26: Now you don't have to hear things about how how

1768
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 26: many times in a row the Giants have lost the Cowboys?

1769
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 26: So many times they've lost to Dak Prescott, like to

1770
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 26: get that, to get the Cowboys monkey off your.

1771
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 14: Back, so to speak.

1772
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 32: What sort of pride did you take in the season

1773
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 32: you had, but you know, mentally, I'm sure it took

1774
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 32: a toll all the losses and you kept showing up

1775
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 32: a week after week and had a career year.

1776
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 11: Like I just said, I mean, I'm trying to maintain

1777
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:24,720
Speaker 11: and you know, stay consistent on my process and you

1778
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 11: know the results showed, you know, and being able to

1779
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 11: play within the game to still get you know, the

1780
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:30,559
Speaker 11: results that I wanted and I needed.

1781
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 5: You know, it just shows the preparation that I put

1782
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 5: put in throughout the week.

1783
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 12: What was a post game like and doesn't mean anything,

1784
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 12: you know, with John's health field at least winning this

1785
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 12: game to like sort of in the season game.

1786
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 14: He's a lot that we get that that last win

1787
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 14: for him, and he's a lot of.

1788
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 32: What really clicked for you just in terms of you know,

1789
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 32: film study, you think that helps take your game down the.

1790
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 11: Level because just being able to allow the calls to

1791
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 11: work for me, you know, instead of trying to step

1792
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 11: outside of the bus, to step outside of the scheme

1793
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 11: to make a playoff, just let the calls work.

1794
01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 1: From the end of day, Yeah, the second quarterd you

1795
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 1: have both, thanks Taper.

1796
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 11: Just want to actually I twisted one of them, So

1797
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 11: I just taped the just so they didn't know.

1798
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:06,800
Speaker 5: I see all the time.

1799
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:08,719
Speaker 14: But I mean, did you did you feel pretty okay?

1800
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 11: After that?

1801
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 14: I was hurting about cool it's just twisted then been crazy.

1802
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 32: I mean, does it mean something to you to, you know,

1803
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 32: play all seventy two games? You are out there pretty

1804
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 32: much as a snapper share and you know, really lay

1805
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 32: it all out there.

1806
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 11: That's kind of just the standard, really, you know. I

1807
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 11: try to be available and be out there to play.

1808
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:27,560
Speaker 33: One of the things you said before was we have

1809
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 33: our guy Jackson, assuming that you're talking about it, where's

1810
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:33,599
Speaker 33: it be for the organization to go into an offseason

1811
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 33: just having that that piece.

1812
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 5: I don't know. I've never really had that, So that's

1813
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:39,680
Speaker 5: what I'm saying that I don't know how it's gonna be.

1814
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:40,720
Speaker 5: I just never really had that.

1815
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 11: You know, throughout my career has always been a whole

1816
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 11: bunch of different quarterbacks. But you know, darstay guy. Everybody

1817
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 11: believes in them. I'm gonna do behind him, so be good.

1818
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:50,679
Speaker 7: He's exciting for you to do that. Yes, I guess

1819
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:52,879
Speaker 7: ain't gonna change my training.

1820
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 1: All right, So guys, Brian Burne is obviously happy to

1821
01:16:57,160 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 1: get the win.

1822
01:16:57,600 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 2: Paul, you were in the locker room, and a lot

1823
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:01,559
Speaker 2: of the players also, and we welcome in Paul Tatino,

1824
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 2: by the way, talking about how they gave one of

1825
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 2: the Giants, one of their principal owners, John Mara, also

1826
01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 2: the Giants president, the game all after the game, and

1827
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 2: the player seemed pretty.

1828
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:14,680
Speaker 1: Emotional about that.

1829
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 22: Well, if you recall when the Giants crushed Philadelphia at

1830
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 22: home much earlier this season, and it seems like decades ago,

1831
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 22: I know the season's been that long. John Marra was

1832
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 22: at the beginning of his cancer treatment and had gone

1833
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 22: into the locker room afterwards and said this did more

1834
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:32,560
Speaker 22: for me than anything that they're doing for me and

1835
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 22: my treatment. He was incredibly emotional. I have not seen

1836
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 22: or heard what he said to the players after this game.

1837
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:42,679
Speaker 22: I can only tell you that going around the locker room,

1838
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 22: a number of players mentioned that it was significant to them.

1839
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 1: It was important to them, so he spoke to the

1840
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 1: team after that he apparently said something. I don't know

1841
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 1: what it is.

1842
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 22: He said, guys were clearly affected by it and emotional

1843
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 22: about it, and they all felt that, you know, he's

1844
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 22: part of the history, the legacy, the foundation of this

1845
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 22: proud and great franchise and they understand that winning to

1846
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:11,639
Speaker 22: the Mara family is the only thing that matters. These guys,

1847
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 22: these players when we talk about how they were playing

1848
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 22: for themselves, John and how they were playing for their coaches,

1849
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 22: and they wanted to win because they were never about

1850
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 22: draft picks.

1851
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:22,880
Speaker 1: It wasn't just about those folks.

1852
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 22: It was also about the franchise and the brand and

1853
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 22: the Giants' front office, the ownership that that logo doesn't

1854
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 22: play for draft picks, That logo plays to win.

1855
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 2: Well, I want to get Tiki's take on this, but

1856
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 2: obviously he's the only one that's warned that logo, and

1857
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 2: he was close to the owners he knows.

1858
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 3: Of course, No, it doesn't matter. Winning is the only

1859
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 3: thing that matters. And the draft picks are draft picks.

1860
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 3: Like as much as I want to care about the

1861
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 3: what the fans are gonna scream about and falling back

1862
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 3: to number of three to six or whatever, it's going

1863
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 3: to ultimately end up being because the Browns ones that

1864
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 3: they can't go down below seven. You still got a

1865
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 3: draft and develop guys, and they're still rookies and they're

1866
01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 3: still going to take some time to acclimate, and I

1867
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 3: feel like I want a team, and I think the

1868
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:06,640
Speaker 3: Giants want a team that.

1869
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 1: Has the right players, not more players.

1870
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 3: You know, it's it's the guys that are going to

1871
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 3: put on the uniform, respect what this history is of

1872
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 3: this organization and play to a standard. It starts with

1873
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:21,559
Speaker 3: the head coach, whoever that ultimately may be, and then

1874
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 3: it starts with the leaders in the locker room. The

1875
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 3: Brian Burns is in the Jackson darts that we've already

1876
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:29,799
Speaker 3: alluded to. And so winning matters, and it just feels

1877
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:32,840
Speaker 3: better to win. You You don't grind all week long

1878
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 3: to go out and embarrass yourself and lose. You want

1879
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 3: to win, and winning is the only thing that matters.

1880
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:40,759
Speaker 1: All right, Let's get to the phones.

1881
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:42,679
Speaker 2: Eight eight eight eight oh eight one zero one nine

1882
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 2: eight eight eight eight one zero one nine. Let's go

1883
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 2: to Dom and new Rochelle. He will lead us off today. Dom,

1884
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:48,680
Speaker 2: what's going on?

1885
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 1: Don?

1886
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:51,080
Speaker 16: What's up?

1887
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:51,599
Speaker 1: Fellas?

1888
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:52,759
Speaker 16: Guys?

1889
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 24: I know, beating the Cowboys always feels good, but the

1890
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 24: way this season went were possibly out of the top

1891
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:02,600
Speaker 24: five in the draft is a shame. I don't. I

1892
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:03,599
Speaker 24: don't agree with tanking.

1893
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 16: I don't. It's just bad luck.

1894
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:06,919
Speaker 24: I don't I don't agree.

1895
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 16: With it at all, So you have to do it.

1896
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:10,640
Speaker 24: You have to do it's best for the future of

1897
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 24: the organization. If you had the first and second pick

1898
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:15,720
Speaker 24: in the draft, you would get a huge hole, huge

1899
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 24: hole for that because everybody wants the Mendoza kid or

1900
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 24: datte more. But I think they need to make these

1901
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 24: games at the end of the year more meaningful, like

1902
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 24: have a draft lottery, like like the NBA does. Listen,

1903
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 24: you know, I call you and Evan all the time.

1904
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're right about that.

1905
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 24: I'm a dieharde Giants fan. I'm a diehard Giants fan.

1906
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 9: You know what.

1907
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 24: I don't agree with tanking, none of that stuff. But

1908
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:44,560
Speaker 24: it's just the way the season went, the heartbreak, the

1909
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 24: gut wrenching losses, and to just not be in that

1910
01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 24: top five in the draft is just so disappointing for

1911
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:52,679
Speaker 24: me within that aspect.

1912
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 1: Dom.

1913
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 22: Can I ask you a question, and I'm being very

1914
01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 22: very serious about this, because it just shows you that

1915
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 22: there's nothing for certain. If I had told you, as

1916
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:06,680
Speaker 22: we talked to many fans before the Giants and the

1917
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 22: then Redskins had played many years ago, and they called

1918
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:12,760
Speaker 22: it the Chase Young Bowl and everybody said, ah, Giants lost.

1919
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:15,840
Speaker 22: They blew the Chase Young pick, and Washington picked Chase Young.

1920
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 22: He got hurt, didn't do much, and wound up leaving

1921
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:20,880
Speaker 22: the team. The Giants got Andrew Thomas, yes, having a

1922
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 22: really good ye but still franchise left tackle. Giants also

1923
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 22: had a chance to get a higher pick last year

1924
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 22: and wound up picking Abdul Carter. Now, who knows what

1925
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 22: Abdul Carter is going to be. They think he'll be

1926
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 22: a franchise pass rusher. The point is nothing is ever guaranteed,

1927
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 22: whether or not you pick first, third, sixth, or even

1928
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 22: if you get an extra third round, fourth round, the

1929
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 22: second round pick. Those picks are not guaranteed to turn

1930
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 22: out well. No, I mean there are no guarantees in life, eyeball.

1931
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 22: So it's not you pick, it's who you pick, right,

1932
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:55,200
Speaker 22: I understand. But last year for an example, and then Dom,

1933
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:57,599
Speaker 22: I'll let you finish. What was The Giants picked fourth

1934
01:21:57,680 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 22: last year instead of third, and they would have never

1935
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 22: the chance.

1936
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 1: To draft that duel Carter.

1937
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 22: I don't know who they would have picked, but maybe

1938
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 22: they would have picked Will Johnson, who made the NFL

1939
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 22: All rookie team at quarterback.

1940
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:10,519
Speaker 2: Ye, I mean possibly, I mean likely, he would have

1941
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 2: win it four. We don't know if he went in

1942
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 2: the second round.

1943
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:16,160
Speaker 1: Point, but we don't know. You asked me for a hypothetical.

1944
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 1: I know I understand that, but it is it is

1945
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 1: better to pick higher than Lowe.

1946
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:21,559
Speaker 5: Of course it is. Don't continue, go.

1947
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:26,720
Speaker 24: Ahead, go ahead, Yes, guys, totally understands. But I'm not

1948
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 24: talking about a single player. I wanted the Giants to

1949
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 24: get the first or second overall pick.

1950
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 16: Just because they're going to get a huge hole. They're

1951
01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:33,680
Speaker 16: going to get it.

1952
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 24: They need a ton of they need a ton of

1953
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:37,439
Speaker 24: ton of pieces on this team.

1954
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 16: I know, I know you can get a guy to

1955
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:39,760
Speaker 16: get it.

1956
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 24: Look, the Giants drafted Odell Beckham in two twenty fourteen,

1957
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 24: and the Rams took Aaron Donald, who picks later. Aaron

1958
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 24: would have Aaron Donald's career over Odell Beckham's any day,

1959
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 24: any day of the week. But sure, it's it's just

1960
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:57,479
Speaker 24: the point of getting a hole for those first two picks.

1961
01:22:57,960 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 24: I want.

1962
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 1: None of those halls that you would get are guaranteed,

1963
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:07,760
Speaker 1: and that's the point. But that's the point the whole.

1964
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 22: Look, But if it's guaranteed that you're going to get

1965
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 22: it's gonna result in good picks.

1966
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 1: Then absolutely, I.

1967
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 5: Think both of these arguments are not mutually exclusive.

1968
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 1: I agree with that. I think that's true. They're both

1969
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:23,120
Speaker 1: are valid and you're right.

1970
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 3: Look, this team needs a linebacker, needs a wide receiver,

1971
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 3: needs cornerback depth, it needs all of those things. And yeah,

1972
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:31,840
Speaker 3: this is where the job matters from a GM and

1973
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 3: scouting perspective. You you have to find those I don't

1974
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:36,720
Speaker 3: call them diamonds in the rough, but you got to

1975
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 3: find those second and third round picks. They're gonna turn

1976
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 3: out to be starts. That was the second round pick.

1977
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 3: A Moni too was the second round pick straight hand.

1978
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:44,680
Speaker 1: One second round.

1979
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 5: There's just there's plenty of.

1980
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 1: The third round.

1981
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:53,680
Speaker 3: There are plenty of ways to build successful ring of

1982
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 3: honored type players. But it starts, to me with the coaching,

1983
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 3: and starts with the expectation, and it starts with identifying

1984
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 3: those guys, whether it's the first round or the seventh round,

1985
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:05,840
Speaker 3: who have a desire to be great. And I've said

1986
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:08,040
Speaker 3: this so many times in these post games. If you

1987
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 3: don't want to be great, then what are you doing

1988
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:12,160
Speaker 3: it for? Because this isn't a game just to go

1989
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 3: beat yourself up, hurt you know, hurt your future, you know,

1990
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:18,640
Speaker 3: physical health, in order to just make some money, like

1991
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 3: you want. You want to be remembered when you play

1992
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:21,439
Speaker 3: this game.

1993
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:23,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, look I will I will close and we'll take

1994
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 2: your calls. If you guys want to talk about it,

1995
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:26,760
Speaker 2: that's fine, but I think we'll leave it here. In

1996
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 2: terms of overall thoughts on it, no one. Players don't tech,

1997
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:31,720
Speaker 2: coaches don't tech. If you go out there, you're gonna

1998
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 2: play again and try to win the game. And I

1999
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 2: think it's important just just go see what's going on

2000
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 2: with with Max Crosby and the Raiders right now that

2001
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 2: I think it's important for players to try to go

2002
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 2: out there and win games and play hard when you

2003
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 2: have the chance to. You would much rather be able

2004
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 2: to trade the picks for a haul if you can

2005
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:50,760
Speaker 2: and get extra picks. You always want more picks than

2006
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:54,600
Speaker 2: than fewer. You always want higher picks than lower. But

2007
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 2: to Paul's point, which is also correct, no matter where

2008
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:00,360
Speaker 2: you pick, there's going to be a good player on

2009
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 2: the board that you can pick, So go find the

2010
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 2: right guys and make the good picks. Whether ta Tiki's point,

2011
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 2: it's in the first round or more importantly, and the

2012
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 2: Giants have it, haven't had enough of these hits in

2013
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 2: later rounds, the second round, third round, or even day

2014
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:16,720
Speaker 2: three picks, fourth rounds to seven. So you have no

2015
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:18,599
Speaker 2: matter how many picks you have and where you pick,

2016
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:20,760
Speaker 2: you have to make the most of them when you

2017
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:24,880
Speaker 2: make those picks, regardless, And I think that's where we stand.

2018
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:26,800
Speaker 2: And look, I totally get it. Fans want to be

2019
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 2: upset about it. I totally get it. And I think

2020
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 2: the Dom's point, it stinks. You never ever, ever, ever

2021
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:34,680
Speaker 2: want to root for your team not to win. There's

2022
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 2: nothing worse for a fan than being put in a

2023
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 2: position where you might even consider it being better for

2024
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 2: your team to lose than to win. It stinks, and

2025
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 2: I don't think there's an answer to that situation out there.

2026
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 2: The NBA has been trying to figure out and they can't.

2027
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:51,519
Speaker 1: They put it all these things.

2028
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:55,559
Speaker 2: They're changing lottery odds too, they're doing that, and there's

2029
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 2: just no solution to the problem.

2030
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:57,800
Speaker 1: So you go out there.

2031
01:25:58,160 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 2: It's the Giants philosophy to go out there, try to

2032
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 2: when every game you play. I think it's the right

2033
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:04,720
Speaker 2: way to go about things, and the dice are going

2034
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 2: to roll wherever they roll, and you're gonna pick wherever

2035
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:08,639
Speaker 2: you pick, and you make the most of those picks.

2036
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:11,000
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Harvey and dixals. Harvey, what's

2037
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 2: going on? And then Nasi will be up next.

2038
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 25: What's for the honor and privilege of going on the

2039
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 25: show and expressing my ideas very basically very special to me.

2040
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 25: The bottom line is that I won't spend much time

2041
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:30,639
Speaker 25: with Jackson Dodd. I wanted him as a number three picks.

2042
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 25: He how much I wanted him before the draft. Okay,

2043
01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 25: when it comes to the general manager and the former

2044
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:41,679
Speaker 25: coach Table, I have to tell you that I didn't

2045
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:44,559
Speaker 25: want Table fired, and he was fired, you know, smart

2046
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 25: football coach. I can't do anything about it. When it

2047
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 25: comes to Shane uh, everybody says, well, he had a

2048
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:54,800
Speaker 25: great drift this time. I hope I have the right draft.

2049
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:57,080
Speaker 25: But the draft before that was great. I hope I

2050
01:26:57,160 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 25: get with neighbors and new him and so ups at

2051
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:04,639
Speaker 25: the rest draft and Tracy and CEO Johnson I called

2052
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 25: him can't catch the football, THEO Johnson. That was a

2053
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 25: great draft too. Okay, heat the drafts to come back

2054
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:14,559
Speaker 25: uh number three. In terms of coordinators. I like your opinion.

2055
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 25: I answered my Kingsbury last week. I'm not sure, but

2056
01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:20,679
Speaker 25: your comment as much. I like his work with Mahomes

2057
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:23,559
Speaker 25: and Dangels, and you know I'm very partial to Wing

2058
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 25: Martin Dale. They have a scandal of Michigan. You may

2059
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 25: come back to the NFL, I hope.

2060
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 1: And then to Mendal's not coming back here. Harvey, Harvey, Harvey,

2061
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 1: just real quick. Wingbourn Dales not don't.

2062
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:36,720
Speaker 25: That's fine, okay. The other thing is that I talked

2063
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:40,600
Speaker 25: a lot about safety. I want those guardian caps mandated

2064
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 25: three years. It'll take the NFL. They're going to standard

2065
01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 25: at the Turff. And the one thing I'd like to

2066
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 25: ask a big favor John and you and Paul I

2067
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:53,560
Speaker 25: mentioned it happened. I was watching a football game with

2068
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 25: two buddies and they act during the game, and I

2069
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 25: mentioned to you that since Compton called it the greens

2070
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 25: understead of the zone, I've been calling it the last

2071
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 25: live the bull zone, and right there in the game

2072
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 25: they stood the blue zone. It would be very very

2073
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:12,360
Speaker 25: if you're one days, you're actually watching a game and

2074
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:14,960
Speaker 25: you agree that the last five yards are different than

2075
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 25: the rest. Maybe you'll let me know, because this is

2076
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:19,439
Speaker 25: my twenty seventh year and the fan and I'll be

2077
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:21,680
Speaker 25: talking again. I'd love to see what you're thinking of

2078
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:23,680
Speaker 25: that you never thought think of that, Thank you so much.

2079
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:27,640
Speaker 2: Sure, Harvey, Look, they do keep separate stats for red

2080
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 2: zone percentage versus gold to goal percentage. They do get

2081
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:32,040
Speaker 2: those separate stats, and they are different the way you

2082
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 2: approach it, and they're all the deep red zone ten

2083
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:36,960
Speaker 2: yard line up and by the way they when just

2084
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:39,080
Speaker 2: so Harvey understands and Tea you can obviously back this

2085
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:41,760
Speaker 2: up better than me. But when they practice, they have

2086
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:46,760
Speaker 2: separate periods and plays for gold to go and then

2087
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 2: the deep red zone, which is closer to the twenty

2088
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 2: yards right.

2089
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:51,559
Speaker 3: It gets harder down there because there's just less space

2090
01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:55,360
Speaker 3: to cover, and it's easy to get confused when you're

2091
01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:57,720
Speaker 3: a quarterback or signal call or whatever it may be,

2092
01:28:57,960 --> 01:28:59,800
Speaker 3: by the defense that you're looking at, because it could,

2093
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 3: I mean, it could look like cover zero in the

2094
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 3: in the tight red area and it's really covered four

2095
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:08,720
Speaker 3: and you just it's hard to dissect it when you're

2096
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:10,680
Speaker 3: down there tight, and so you have to be so

2097
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:13,640
Speaker 3: precise when you're in that close from a.

2098
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:16,520
Speaker 5: Play caller, but also an execution standpoint.

2099
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 3: And it's something as much as we loved the early

2100
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:21,840
Speaker 3: red zone success by the New York Giants, it started

2101
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:23,360
Speaker 3: the wayne as the season went on, like they just

2102
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:27,439
Speaker 3: they got worse at designing plays and executing plays in

2103
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 3: that tight red area. There was a bunch there was

2104
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:31,880
Speaker 3: a bunch of opportunities down the Cowboy defense down there too.

2105
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:34,479
Speaker 3: You end up kicking three field goals. Now look that

2106
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:36,920
Speaker 3: ultimately mattered because you scored thirty four points or whatever

2107
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:39,240
Speaker 3: it was. And so it just feels like the Giants,

2108
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:42,040
Speaker 3: while good in certain spots, still have work to do

2109
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 3: in a lot of different areas.

2110
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:45,680
Speaker 2: And I should bring this up to Miles Garrett did

2111
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:48,479
Speaker 2: get a sack today, broke Michael stra and sack record

2112
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 2: TJ Watt too.

2113
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:50,599
Speaker 1: They were tied correct.

2114
01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:53,639
Speaker 2: And if you look at the play, the way Garrett

2115
01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:56,920
Speaker 2: gets off the ball on that fast and like a rocket,

2116
01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 2: it is just an like he's he's off the ball

2117
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:03,000
Speaker 2: before offensive lineman moved except for the center and.

2118
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 3: Should or Sanders just kind of slid into that sack.

2119
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:08,679
Speaker 3: But he was gonna get sacked regardless Joe Barrow. I mean, yeah,

2120
01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:16,560
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow slid into that, but he was

2121
01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:19,320
Speaker 3: going to get sacked either way, and so correct. Miles Garrett,

2122
01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:21,439
Speaker 3: you know, gets credited for the twenty third sack, and

2123
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 3: kudos to him because he had a stretch for about

2124
01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:27,360
Speaker 3: four games where he had more sacks than anybody else

2125
01:30:27,400 --> 01:30:27,880
Speaker 3: in the league.

2126
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:30,800
Speaker 2: I think probably in my adulthood as a kid, I

2127
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:34,280
Speaker 2: remember LT obviously, but in my adulthood him and Aaron

2128
01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:36,880
Speaker 2: Donald are probably the two best defensive players I've ever seen.

2129
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially because of the position Aaron Donald played an

2130
01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 3: interior d tackle.

2131
01:30:40,439 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 1: Who was it was?

2132
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 3: It was an an advantage for the Rams. I mean

2133
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:48,240
Speaker 3: he could if he had a guard or single in

2134
01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 3: him on a center. He was winning almost every single time.

2135
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:52,479
Speaker 3: J J watts up there too. He had a couple

2136
01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:54,920
Speaker 3: of years in there where he wasn't unbelievable, right, none of.

2137
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:57,240
Speaker 22: Them Moralty Well, like I said, I went, I I

2138
01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:02,280
Speaker 22: even said I was, But they're different.

2139
01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 3: But they were there were different, There were different players.

2140
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:06,599
Speaker 3: All these guys that we were just alluding to had

2141
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:08,920
Speaker 3: their hands in the ground. LT was a stand up backer, yep,

2142
01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:10,840
Speaker 3: and you know he was on the edge and often

2143
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:13,720
Speaker 3: the fifth rusher on some of those giant defenses. And

2144
01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:16,600
Speaker 3: he was just a superior athlete than a lot of

2145
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:18,200
Speaker 3: the tackles that were playing at the time.

2146
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go to nas in Pennsylvania.

2147
01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:20,120
Speaker 5: He's up.

2148
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 16: So what's up, guys.

2149
01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:25,240
Speaker 31: Just first, I want to say I really appreciate you

2150
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:27,880
Speaker 31: guys giving me the time during the course of the season,

2151
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:29,679
Speaker 31: and a happy New Year to you and your family.

2152
01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 1: I appreciate you.

2153
01:31:33,160 --> 01:31:35,519
Speaker 16: Before I make my real point, I just want.

2154
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 31: To piggyback on that Giants hold the draft positioning and

2155
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 31: stuff like that. Back when Ernie Corsi built those successful

2156
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:47,240
Speaker 31: Giants teams, the Giants were not picking you know, those

2157
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:52,280
Speaker 31: really top five every year picked. It shows you that

2158
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:56,280
Speaker 31: it's not where you're drafting, it's who you have, you know,

2159
01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:59,720
Speaker 31: in your organization that are making the picks. Because that's

2160
01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 31: why the great teams continue to be the great teams

2161
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:04,760
Speaker 31: and the bad teams continue to be you know, in

2162
01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:05,360
Speaker 31: the basement.

2163
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:08,760
Speaker 2: So and no real quick, now, real quick, no real quick,

2164
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:11,519
Speaker 2: And I'll let you continue. It's not just who's they're

2165
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:16,080
Speaker 2: picking the players, it's who's they're developing the players once

2166
01:32:16,160 --> 01:32:17,200
Speaker 2: you are on them.

2167
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:19,320
Speaker 1: On your roster too. There there are two parts of

2168
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:20,880
Speaker 1: that go ahead right.

2169
01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:23,840
Speaker 16: Which leads me to Smoky, which leads me to my

2170
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:24,599
Speaker 16: next point.

2171
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:28,000
Speaker 31: If the Giants are going to keep Joe Shane, as

2172
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:30,559
Speaker 31: much as you guys already know, I'm not a fan

2173
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:33,280
Speaker 31: of that, But if they're going to keep Joe Shane,

2174
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:36,840
Speaker 31: I believe this is his upcoming last year of the contract.

2175
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:40,880
Speaker 31: If you're going to get the best coaching candidate available,

2176
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 31: they're going to have to double down and extend Joe

2177
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:47,160
Speaker 31: Shane so that that head that you get the best

2178
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:49,519
Speaker 31: head coach candidate.

2179
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:51,160
Speaker 16: And he's not coming in.

2180
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:55,800
Speaker 31: With a lame duck GM entering his contract season. So

2181
01:32:55,960 --> 01:32:58,280
Speaker 31: if you're really listen, if you is, we're going to

2182
01:32:58,360 --> 01:33:01,639
Speaker 31: disagree on it. If the Giants really believe in Joe Shane,

2183
01:33:02,120 --> 01:33:04,479
Speaker 31: believe in the young core as much as US fans

2184
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:07,360
Speaker 31: maybe don't believe in it, they're gonna have to double

2185
01:33:07,439 --> 01:33:12,280
Speaker 31: down in order to get the best head coaching candidate available,

2186
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:13,719
Speaker 31: because you're not gonna get.

2187
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:16,679
Speaker 16: That if they think that this is the year Joe

2188
01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 16: Shane has to win.

2189
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:21,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I also think nas and it's it's a

2190
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:23,760
Speaker 3: very good point. It's gonna depend on who the head

2191
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:25,720
Speaker 3: coach is that rises.

2192
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:26,240
Speaker 5: To the to the top.

2193
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:28,720
Speaker 3: If it appreciation nas and happy New Year to you

2194
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:31,160
Speaker 3: as well. It's if it's a veteran coach who has

2195
01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:37,160
Speaker 3: not not experience as a as a player picker, but

2196
01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:39,920
Speaker 3: someone who has an idea of what he wants.

2197
01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:42,479
Speaker 1: Then him, he and Joe Shane have to be on

2198
01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:43,200
Speaker 1: the same page.

2199
01:33:43,479 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 3: And I think the challenge and this isn't an NFL problem,

2200
01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 3: this isn't just a Giants problem. The challenge is is

2201
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:53,639
Speaker 3: there enough time to develop that kind of understanding between

2202
01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:57,839
Speaker 3: an existing general manager and the incoming head coach.

2203
01:33:57,800 --> 01:34:00,599
Speaker 1: And building a roster for that coach right style.

2204
01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:03,919
Speaker 5: And it feels like there are examples of that being successful.

2205
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:07,559
Speaker 3: Ben Johnson and Ryan Poles in Chicago are a perfect example,

2206
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:10,320
Speaker 3: and so like, I don't know what the relationship was

2207
01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:13,439
Speaker 3: prior with Poles and Ben Johnson, but it seems to

2208
01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:16,720
Speaker 3: be working right. It seems to be uh, you know, symbiotic,

2209
01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:19,280
Speaker 3: and Ryan Poles has a good future there. And obviously

2210
01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:21,639
Speaker 3: Ben Johnson in his rookie season as a head coach

2211
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:24,519
Speaker 3: has has turned this the Chicago Bears team around, And

2212
01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:27,360
Speaker 3: so there are examples of it working. I mean alluding

2213
01:34:27,360 --> 01:34:30,519
Speaker 3: to what Nas was referencing, where you have a general manager,

2214
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:32,160
Speaker 3: you have him here for the future, and you bring

2215
01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:34,920
Speaker 3: in a coach young or otherwise that knows how to

2216
01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:39,439
Speaker 3: that knows how to win, and so that relationship in developing,

2217
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:42,080
Speaker 3: that's it gets really compressed. And when you have a

2218
01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:44,560
Speaker 3: month or so to figure out how to how to

2219
01:34:45,080 --> 01:34:46,360
Speaker 3: make that relationship work.

2220
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:48,960
Speaker 22: You know, we have talked so much about some of

2221
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:51,960
Speaker 22: these teams in recent years that have turned it around quickly, right,

2222
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:55,840
Speaker 22: I think unfortunately, because the Giants have been struggling for

2223
01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:59,559
Speaker 22: as long as they have, fans are expecting whoever they

2224
01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:02,200
Speaker 22: bring in as the head coach, they're expecting that he

2225
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:04,479
Speaker 22: and Joe Shane are going to have to make a

2226
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:07,360
Speaker 22: significant turnaround in twenty twenty six. They're not going to

2227
01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:08,200
Speaker 22: have much patience.

2228
01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:11,599
Speaker 1: They're not. To your point, I don't think anyone's gonna

2229
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 1: have any patience, and.

2230
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:17,160
Speaker 22: To your including the players aship and to your point

2231
01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:20,200
Speaker 22: in the pregame show, John, when you were talking about coordinators,

2232
01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:22,680
Speaker 22: it's one of the reasons why I believe it's got

2233
01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:26,240
Speaker 22: to be a CEO, because if you hire another coordinator

2234
01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:28,280
Speaker 22: to be a head coach, he's not going to have

2235
01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:30,639
Speaker 22: a lot of gradest time to learn on the job

2236
01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:31,840
Speaker 22: to be a head coach.

2237
01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:35,000
Speaker 1: He's got to know what it takes to be a

2238
01:35:35,240 --> 01:35:36,080
Speaker 1: CEO head.

2239
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:38,920
Speaker 22: Coach to win in this league so that he can

2240
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:42,120
Speaker 22: immediately hit the ground running with Joe Shane and give

2241
01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:43,719
Speaker 22: the Giants a chance to be competitive.

2242
01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, because if they're not, the flames are gonna get

2243
01:35:46,360 --> 01:35:47,920
Speaker 1: turned up real real fast.

2244
01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:50,240
Speaker 2: And I will say this too, and I think NAS

2245
01:35:50,280 --> 01:35:51,920
Speaker 2: didn't make a good point when you look at you know,

2246
01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:54,280
Speaker 2: matching coach and you know, figuring out a guy that

2247
01:35:54,479 --> 01:35:56,120
Speaker 2: then thinks he can be here for a long time.

2248
01:35:56,720 --> 01:35:58,640
Speaker 2: But look the bottom line here, guys, and you know this,

2249
01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:02,920
Speaker 2: They're only thirty two NFL head coaching. The Giants are

2250
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:06,439
Speaker 2: a legacy franchise that treat their people the right way.

2251
01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:09,200
Speaker 2: The fact that all these assistant coaches are again according

2252
01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:11,559
Speaker 2: to what their coaches themselves have said earlier in the week,

2253
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:14,599
Speaker 2: are still in their contract shows you that the Giants

2254
01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:16,160
Speaker 2: will you know, they do a good job of taking

2255
01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:19,880
Speaker 2: care of people that way, right. So I would be

2256
01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:23,240
Speaker 2: hard pressed to think, especially with all the talent the

2257
01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:26,240
Speaker 2: Giants have on the defensive front. With Jackson Dart here

2258
01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:28,559
Speaker 2: as a young quarterback the league neighbors coming back.

2259
01:36:28,760 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 1: We talked about the talent that's here.

2260
01:36:30,520 --> 01:36:33,200
Speaker 2: As bad as the record has been, I find it

2261
01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:36,720
Speaker 2: hard to believe, especially given what the rosters look like

2262
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:40,080
Speaker 2: of the other teams that could potentially have head coaching vacancies,

2263
01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:43,519
Speaker 2: that teams would be turning Giants down the Giants offer

2264
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:45,599
Speaker 2: to be their head coach, right me, I just don't

2265
01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:46,519
Speaker 2: think that's plausible to me.

2266
01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:49,080
Speaker 3: And it's I think the biggest thing, the reason why

2267
01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:51,280
Speaker 3: they won't turn it down is because there's talent on

2268
01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:51,720
Speaker 3: this team.

2269
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:54,080
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Right, You're not going to a place.

2270
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:56,320
Speaker 3: Where God, I got to rebuild the quarterback, I got

2271
01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:59,040
Speaker 3: to rebuild the offensive line. I gotta find playmakers on

2272
01:36:59,160 --> 01:37:01,519
Speaker 3: defense that is here with the New York Giants.

2273
01:37:01,560 --> 01:37:03,120
Speaker 2: Like if you look at the if the Browns move

2274
01:37:03,160 --> 01:37:06,280
Speaker 2: on from Stefanski, you look at that roster, that is

2275
01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:11,160
Speaker 2: a multi year project on both sides of the ball.

2276
01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:13,800
Speaker 2: I'm not saying this is gonna be next year. You're

2277
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:16,720
Speaker 2: Super Bowl competitor, but you could be a good you

2278
01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:18,400
Speaker 2: could be a pretty good football team next year if

2279
01:37:18,439 --> 01:37:19,920
Speaker 2: you figure things out right.

2280
01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:21,639
Speaker 3: And look, they had a lot of games, and Bob

2281
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:24,639
Speaker 3: alluded to this before he left us that the Giants

2282
01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:26,720
Speaker 3: probably should have won. And again, they're not going to

2283
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:29,240
Speaker 3: be a ten win team, but they win seven games

2284
01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:31,880
Speaker 3: and it feels different, right, instead of four games, two

2285
01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:34,320
Speaker 3: of which are right then the season when you're already eliminated.

2286
01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:36,200
Speaker 3: And doesn't matter the stat that keep popping up on

2287
01:37:36,280 --> 01:37:39,439
Speaker 3: social media where you know, for their eight wins of

2288
01:37:39,479 --> 01:37:40,920
Speaker 3: the last couple of years have been in games.

2289
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:41,439
Speaker 5: It don't matter.

2290
01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:42,439
Speaker 1: We're not We're not.

2291
01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:45,200
Speaker 22: Alone insane this either, because if you look at the

2292
01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:48,360
Speaker 22: words of people outside the building, as angry as the

2293
01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:51,600
Speaker 22: fans are, unjustifiably so with the record, most of the

2294
01:37:51,760 --> 01:37:57,439
Speaker 22: national media people, the outward breers of the world, the world, Yes,

2295
01:37:57,960 --> 01:38:01,080
Speaker 22: they say, this may be the most attract the openings

2296
01:38:01,120 --> 01:38:01,960
Speaker 22: in this offseason.

2297
01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:05,120
Speaker 1: So we're not just singing this tune by ourselves.

2298
01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:06,720
Speaker 2: Right, No, you have a cool do you have a

2299
01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:08,640
Speaker 2: young quarterback in place that can beat the guy? And

2300
01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:10,519
Speaker 2: then look at the pieces on defense that you have

2301
01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:12,720
Speaker 2: up front. So let's take a time out, we'll come back,

2302
01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:15,080
Speaker 2: take a few more calls. We'll hear from a couple

2303
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:17,000
Speaker 2: more people in the locker room as well. That and

2304
01:38:17,120 --> 01:38:19,000
Speaker 2: more as we continue right here on Giants extra Point.

2305
01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:21,599
Speaker 2: Giants close out this season with they win, they defeat

2306
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:24,320
Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys thirty four to seventeen, and the season

2307
01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:25,519
Speaker 2: where four wins will be right back.

2308
01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:28,919
Speaker 13: This is Jackson Darr and you're listening to Giants Football

2309
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:32,840
Speaker 13: on the fan w FA N and w FA N FM,

2310
01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:33,639
Speaker 13: New York.

2311
01:38:34,640 --> 01:38:37,000
Speaker 2: We're back here on Giants extra point. Giants lose a

2312
01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:39,240
Speaker 2: beat the Cowboys part of me, thirty four to seventeen.

2313
01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:41,479
Speaker 2: Get that right, John, Thank you? I got a right

2314
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:42,680
Speaker 2: all post game. I don't know why I got it wrong.

2315
01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:42,800
Speaker 7: There.

2316
01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:45,719
Speaker 2: We're gonna hear from Jermaina Luminor in just a second.

2317
01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:48,200
Speaker 2: He's one of the giants big free agents this offseason.

2318
01:38:48,439 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 2: We'll hear from him in the locker room. Paulatino did

2319
01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:53,519
Speaker 2: a great job as always of tracking him down and

2320
01:38:53,600 --> 01:38:56,960
Speaker 2: everyone down downstairs. Let's go to Richard and Manhattan. He's

2321
01:38:57,080 --> 01:38:59,720
Speaker 2: up next on Giants extra Point. Richard, what's going on?

2322
01:39:00,280 --> 01:39:01,040
Speaker 30: Ticky John?

2323
01:39:01,120 --> 01:39:01,400
Speaker 1: Paul?

2324
01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:05,400
Speaker 30: Three quick points. I wish Mike Kofka went instead of

2325
01:39:05,479 --> 01:39:08,719
Speaker 30: two and five four and three. I think we would

2326
01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:09,439
Speaker 30: have kept him if he.

2327
01:39:09,479 --> 01:39:10,240
Speaker 16: Went four and three.

2328
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:16,160
Speaker 30: You never know, that's right, Jackson Dott looked so confident

2329
01:39:16,280 --> 01:39:19,280
Speaker 30: out there. I haven't seen him look this good. Better

2330
01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:23,000
Speaker 30: than the Philly game, and about the San Diego game,

2331
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:26,160
Speaker 30: the Charger game. That's when I knew this kid could

2332
01:39:26,280 --> 01:39:29,240
Speaker 30: looked be good. But this kid was so great today

2333
01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:32,320
Speaker 30: that shuffle pass. I haven't seen a giant quarterback do

2334
01:39:32,439 --> 01:39:35,280
Speaker 30: that since fran Tulkington to Homo, John.

2335
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:38,719
Speaker 2: Richard, I would just have one caution for you, Richard,

2336
01:39:39,240 --> 01:39:41,679
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys are literally one of the worst pass defense,

2337
01:39:43,439 --> 01:39:44,400
Speaker 2: so just keep that in mind.

2338
01:39:46,120 --> 01:39:52,040
Speaker 30: I watched a game my team do and I I

2339
01:39:52,160 --> 01:39:56,679
Speaker 30: saw Jackson Dodd, the president for Jackson Dodd sixty years

2340
01:39:56,720 --> 01:39:59,920
Speaker 30: ago almost to today, six zero. There was a guy

2341
01:40:00,160 --> 01:40:02,040
Speaker 30: across the river, Joe name it.

2342
01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:03,320
Speaker 22: His first year.

2343
01:40:03,479 --> 01:40:06,320
Speaker 30: Came in the third game, just like Jackson Dot and

2344
01:40:06,479 --> 01:40:08,160
Speaker 30: we knew that weren't going to be good. The judges

2345
01:40:08,160 --> 01:40:10,360
Speaker 30: were terrible at you, but you can see that he

2346
01:40:10,520 --> 01:40:12,240
Speaker 30: was building it. I was ten and a half years old,

2347
01:40:12,280 --> 01:40:14,479
Speaker 30: but I remember it very well. He was building who

2348
01:40:14,520 --> 01:40:18,160
Speaker 30: covered that confidence every game and that was it and

2349
01:40:18,320 --> 01:40:20,720
Speaker 30: he took off Friday after that. I guarantee you that

2350
01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:23,759
Speaker 30: God will take off after this game, and you're gonna

2351
01:40:23,760 --> 01:40:25,679
Speaker 30: see all of this is gonna be worth it because

2352
01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:28,040
Speaker 30: we have to quarterback. Always a pleasure, fellas.

2353
01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:30,439
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, Richard, appreciate you being with John.

2354
01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:33,720
Speaker 1: If I may say two things off of Rich's call.

2355
01:40:33,880 --> 01:40:37,719
Speaker 22: Number one the shovel pass to Bellinger and I joked

2356
01:40:37,760 --> 01:40:39,439
Speaker 22: with Bellinger in the locker room after.

2357
01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:41,120
Speaker 1: The game, did you play his comment? I did not

2358
01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:43,040
Speaker 1: play that, okay, I joked with him.

2359
01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:45,439
Speaker 22: I said that reminded me of Mahomes and Kelsey, okay,

2360
01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:47,880
Speaker 22: because that's the kind of off schedule.

2361
01:40:47,560 --> 01:40:48,720
Speaker 1: Play that those guys us.

2362
01:40:48,760 --> 01:40:50,439
Speaker 2: Now that was that was a screen though, that was

2363
01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:51,800
Speaker 2: at the ninth stream. It was just a matter of

2364
01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:53,360
Speaker 2: how he got how he did it, how he did it.

2365
01:40:53,439 --> 01:40:54,439
Speaker 1: It was pretty remarkable.

2366
01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:58,679
Speaker 22: But but in all honesty, rich what I was really

2367
01:40:58,800 --> 01:41:02,240
Speaker 22: most impressed about with Darth today of he played well,

2368
01:41:02,280 --> 01:41:03,519
Speaker 22: There's no question he played well.

2369
01:41:04,120 --> 01:41:05,599
Speaker 1: He kept himself out of trouble again.

2370
01:41:05,680 --> 01:41:11,000
Speaker 22: Yeah, he's done much better when he took hit and

2371
01:41:11,080 --> 01:41:14,040
Speaker 22: that wasn't even that. And I didn't think he put

2372
01:41:14,120 --> 01:41:16,840
Speaker 22: himself necessarily in a dangerous position. A couple of times

2373
01:41:16,840 --> 01:41:18,960
Speaker 22: he ran out of bounds before it taking to It's

2374
01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:22,720
Speaker 22: great to see so we've seen Now the last three

2375
01:41:22,760 --> 01:41:27,120
Speaker 22: weeks he has started to do those things and I'm glad.

2376
01:41:27,960 --> 01:41:29,600
Speaker 3: And he still had a bunch of yards rushing, so

2377
01:41:29,720 --> 01:41:31,760
Speaker 3: he still was viable as as a runner for this

2378
01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:35,200
Speaker 3: team all finishing the game, you know, with how many

2379
01:41:35,240 --> 01:41:36,040
Speaker 3: yards rushing did he have?

2380
01:41:36,520 --> 01:41:37,639
Speaker 5: Thirty two yards rushing?

2381
01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:37,880
Speaker 26: You know?

2382
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:40,560
Speaker 3: So he so he did enough with his legs, but

2383
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:43,400
Speaker 3: kept himself safe and that was been It's been a

2384
01:41:43,479 --> 01:41:45,200
Speaker 3: talking point all season long with him.

2385
01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:46,599
Speaker 1: That's not my worry with him.

2386
01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:47,759
Speaker 5: It's not my worry at allways.

2387
01:41:47,800 --> 01:41:50,040
Speaker 1: He's going to figure that out. The players figure that

2388
01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:53,680
Speaker 1: stuff out. But evidence is always good evidence, now correct. No,

2389
01:41:53,880 --> 01:41:55,599
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. I think it's good to see.

2390
01:41:55,960 --> 01:41:59,040
Speaker 2: But when you talk about him reaching his ceiling as

2391
01:41:59,080 --> 01:42:01,360
Speaker 2: a player, that's like not even close to the first

2392
01:42:01,400 --> 01:42:03,240
Speaker 2: thing that enters my head in terms of where he needs.

2393
01:42:03,640 --> 01:42:05,360
Speaker 2: I got you, but got you, That's all I'm saying.

2394
01:42:05,360 --> 01:42:07,160
Speaker 2: All Right, let's go to Jamaina Lumindor. He's one of

2395
01:42:07,200 --> 01:42:08,840
Speaker 2: the Giants big free agents. He's had a good year

2396
01:42:08,840 --> 01:42:10,920
Speaker 2: and right tackle struggle a little bit today, had to

2397
01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:12,519
Speaker 2: come out of the game and then of going back

2398
01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:15,360
Speaker 2: in to finish the game. Here's Jamain and Luminar after

2399
01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:17,559
Speaker 2: the Giants win against the Dallas Cowboys.

2400
01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:19,599
Speaker 7: Can you describe that seam with John?

2401
01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:22,120
Speaker 34: Yeah, I mean it's just really cool to be able

2402
01:42:22,120 --> 01:42:23,920
Speaker 34: to go out to this season, would have win and

2403
01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:26,280
Speaker 34: everything he's going through, everything went through as a team,

2404
01:42:26,360 --> 01:42:27,400
Speaker 34: to just be able to go out there and be

2405
01:42:27,520 --> 01:42:30,400
Speaker 34: the Cowboys and just come in here and celebrate. You know,

2406
01:42:30,439 --> 01:42:32,519
Speaker 34: I think I remember that's time I'm going back to

2407
01:42:32,600 --> 01:42:35,519
Speaker 34: that game. So it was it was really cool to

2408
01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:39,880
Speaker 34: see him small, being able to just give him.

2409
01:42:39,960 --> 01:42:40,439
Speaker 5: Something like that.

2410
01:42:40,520 --> 01:42:42,799
Speaker 14: I know it's best for us, well.

2411
01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:45,400
Speaker 34: This whole family here too, And yeah, that was I

2412
01:42:45,439 --> 01:42:47,000
Speaker 34: didn't see that until the end, so that was really

2413
01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:47,479
Speaker 34: cool to me.

2414
01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:49,360
Speaker 14: So you know, it's a little things like that that

2415
01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:51,760
Speaker 14: mean a lot to everyone in this goolding everyone for

2416
01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:54,160
Speaker 14: the state. Jamain, I'm sorry for some of your skis.

2417
01:42:54,439 --> 01:42:56,120
Speaker 16: I just got in buddy, how much do you want

2418
01:42:56,120 --> 01:42:58,000
Speaker 16: to be able to come back next year?

2419
01:42:58,000 --> 01:42:59,880
Speaker 18: I know you're a free agent and to be a

2420
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:01,280
Speaker 18: part of turning Instagram.

2421
01:43:02,160 --> 01:43:03,960
Speaker 34: Yeah, I mean I feel like when I first signed her,

2422
01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:06,640
Speaker 34: I made it clear how much it meant to me

2423
01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:07,800
Speaker 34: to play for this franchise and.

2424
01:43:07,880 --> 01:43:10,000
Speaker 14: This organization, and you know, I still feel sat way.

2425
01:43:10,479 --> 01:43:13,080
Speaker 34: Everything I've said two years ago was still remains.

2426
01:43:13,120 --> 01:43:14,680
Speaker 5: I love this team, you know.

2427
01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:18,080
Speaker 34: I love wearing a you know another blue homet playing at.

2428
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:19,719
Speaker 14: Met Life, just being around these fans.

2429
01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:20,519
Speaker 34: I've never been shown as.

2430
01:43:20,520 --> 01:43:21,599
Speaker 24: Much love in my entire career.

2431
01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:23,360
Speaker 35: I'm just what I mean.

2432
01:43:23,400 --> 01:43:27,000
Speaker 14: I wanna hopefully be part of the transition into great.

2433
01:43:26,840 --> 01:43:29,000
Speaker 34: This year, and I feel like get to be as

2434
01:43:29,040 --> 01:43:31,840
Speaker 34: more peaceful, especially a right tackle been protecting dark in

2435
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:33,320
Speaker 34: the future, and you know, I feel.

2436
01:43:33,120 --> 01:43:34,200
Speaker 11: Like I do a job of that.

2437
01:43:34,360 --> 01:43:36,559
Speaker 14: So if it's up to me, I enough to come back. Obviously,

2438
01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:37,679
Speaker 14: you all your things.

2439
01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:38,120
Speaker 5: Have to work out.

2440
01:43:38,600 --> 01:43:39,439
Speaker 2: Let's see what happens.

2441
01:43:39,479 --> 01:43:42,000
Speaker 12: So I, like I said, I'd love to be here.

2442
01:43:42,240 --> 01:43:43,280
Speaker 7: Thank you, of course, thanks.

2443
01:43:44,080 --> 01:43:45,800
Speaker 5: I'm banks up with you to be on the season.

2444
01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:49,519
Speaker 34: I mean, I'm I'm wearing too short of very since

2445
01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:53,679
Speaker 34: I wrote my freaking ankle, so you know, but since

2446
01:43:53,680 --> 01:43:57,000
Speaker 34: about I mean, I I I wouldn't really put a

2447
01:43:57,120 --> 01:43:59,400
Speaker 34: number on it, but I definitely wasn't a hundred percent.

2448
01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:01,720
Speaker 34: But I think on the offensive line, it comes down

2449
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:04,519
Speaker 34: to how bad you want to play and how much

2450
01:44:04,560 --> 01:44:06,000
Speaker 34: it means to you. And this meant this means a

2451
01:44:06,040 --> 01:44:08,040
Speaker 34: lot to me. You know, throughout my TA career, if

2452
01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:09,920
Speaker 34: you really look at it, I've been through a lot.

2453
01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:11,240
Speaker 34: I've been throw a lot of ups and downs. I've

2454
01:44:11,240 --> 01:44:15,000
Speaker 34: been cut, put on the practice squad, benched for reasons

2455
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:19,639
Speaker 34: that went under my control, and then rotated with certain guys.

2456
01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:21,240
Speaker 34: And the plus years have been the first two years

2457
01:44:21,240 --> 01:44:23,040
Speaker 34: of my career where I've truly just been able to

2458
01:44:23,080 --> 01:44:24,840
Speaker 34: be the guy and be out there. And now I

2459
01:44:24,880 --> 01:44:27,200
Speaker 34: have to look over my short constantly and just play freely,

2460
01:44:27,479 --> 01:44:29,920
Speaker 34: and I think that's really paid. Divid is a season

2461
01:44:29,960 --> 01:44:32,000
Speaker 34: for me and just being able to just play free.

2462
01:44:33,120 --> 01:44:35,400
Speaker 34: And so when it comes to me being hurt, hurt,

2463
01:44:35,479 --> 01:44:38,599
Speaker 34: but I just put too much work and effort into

2464
01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:40,439
Speaker 34: being out there that if I can be out there,

2465
01:44:40,479 --> 01:44:41,040
Speaker 34: I'll be out there.

2466
01:44:42,640 --> 01:44:46,759
Speaker 2: That's Jermaine Illuminore and guys talk about a great player

2467
01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:49,600
Speaker 2: development story, and it didn't all happen here. A lot

2468
01:44:49,680 --> 01:44:51,760
Speaker 2: of that happened with Claren Briscilla and the Raiders. In

2469
01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:54,080
Speaker 2: his last year there, he played really well, and before

2470
01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:55,599
Speaker 2: that he was the Patriots and the Ravens.

2471
01:44:56,080 --> 01:44:59,760
Speaker 1: But that's a guy that you draft. And by his

2472
01:44:59,800 --> 01:45:01,560
Speaker 1: own words, he said this to me, Paul, if you

2473
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:03,679
Speaker 1: remember we did the interview with him when he first

2474
01:45:03,720 --> 01:45:05,280
Speaker 1: got to the Giants. Yeah, the first few years in

2475
01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:09,240
Speaker 1: the league, I sucked because I stunk. I was terrible.

2476
01:45:09,560 --> 01:45:11,080
Speaker 1: That's what he said to us on the air. I

2477
01:45:11,160 --> 01:45:12,080
Speaker 1: was on Giants dot Com.

2478
01:45:12,640 --> 01:45:15,280
Speaker 2: And to see the progress that he has steadily made

2479
01:45:15,320 --> 01:45:16,920
Speaker 2: over the course of his screw to the point now

2480
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:20,960
Speaker 2: where he's a top half of the league starting right

2481
01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:24,400
Speaker 2: tackle or somewhere in that area, and played really well.

2482
01:45:25,120 --> 01:45:26,840
Speaker 2: He's a good guy. He works his butt off, he's

2483
01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:29,760
Speaker 2: a smart player, he cares. It's just really good to

2484
01:45:29,840 --> 01:45:32,280
Speaker 2: see that type of player development story. And now he's

2485
01:45:32,360 --> 01:45:35,960
Speaker 2: gonna be able to cash in this offseason. He said

2486
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:38,120
Speaker 2: it hopefully it's here. I think all of us hope

2487
01:45:38,160 --> 01:45:39,760
Speaker 2: it's here too, because he's been a good player. He's

2488
01:45:39,760 --> 01:45:40,880
Speaker 2: been a good guy. He's a good leader in the

2489
01:45:40,960 --> 01:45:44,160
Speaker 2: locker room too. But we'll see Antiki as a player.

2490
01:45:44,240 --> 01:45:46,600
Speaker 2: It's just good to see guys like that succeed. No,

2491
01:45:46,720 --> 01:45:48,680
Speaker 2: it is, because look, it's it's hard to make it

2492
01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:49,280
Speaker 2: in this league.

2493
01:45:49,520 --> 01:45:53,920
Speaker 3: You're constantly under threat of getting replaced, whether that's in

2494
01:45:53,960 --> 01:45:57,160
Speaker 3: the draft or free agency, and games like this, games

2495
01:45:57,240 --> 01:45:59,880
Speaker 3: like last week, they matter for that exact reason, can

2496
01:45:59,920 --> 01:46:02,800
Speaker 3: you prove that you're worth being a part of the

2497
01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:05,360
Speaker 3: guys that stay here. There's going to be turnover, obviously,

2498
01:46:05,720 --> 01:46:08,720
Speaker 3: some veterans are going to be cut cap casualties. Other

2499
01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 3: guys are just not going to be re signed in

2500
01:46:10,520 --> 01:46:13,840
Speaker 3: free agency, and so proving your worth year in and

2501
01:46:13,960 --> 01:46:16,360
Speaker 3: year out is something that is part and particle of

2502
01:46:16,840 --> 01:46:19,360
Speaker 3: being in the National Football League. And I think Jermaina

2503
01:46:19,439 --> 01:46:22,720
Speaker 3: Lumnor has acquitted himself quite well as as the right

2504
01:46:22,760 --> 01:46:25,360
Speaker 3: tackle for this team. And he's had some versatility. As

2505
01:46:25,400 --> 01:46:28,400
Speaker 3: we know last year he had to bounce around a lot.

2506
01:46:29,040 --> 01:46:32,080
Speaker 3: He's got the ability to do that, but he also

2507
01:46:32,200 --> 01:46:34,920
Speaker 3: wants to be the guy. And every player at some

2508
01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:36,920
Speaker 3: point in their career wants to be the guy that

2509
01:46:37,520 --> 01:46:39,640
Speaker 3: a team can count on, and I know that's what

2510
01:46:39,720 --> 01:46:42,559
Speaker 3: he's hoping for. The question will be from a cap

2511
01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:45,800
Speaker 3: standpoint and from a contract standpoint. Does it work for

2512
01:46:45,880 --> 01:46:48,320
Speaker 3: the New York Giants. The same conversation that we have

2513
01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:52,840
Speaker 3: in some capacity, really same capacity about Wandell Robinson because

2514
01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:55,240
Speaker 3: he's he's made himself some money proving that he's not

2515
01:46:55,560 --> 01:46:58,160
Speaker 3: just this small slot receiver caught a lot of passes

2516
01:46:58,200 --> 01:46:58,639
Speaker 3: down the scene.

2517
01:46:58,680 --> 01:46:59,960
Speaker 1: Remember that early in the year.

2518
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:02,479
Speaker 3: He's been an outside receiver, been a slot been the

2519
01:47:02,520 --> 01:47:05,920
Speaker 3: motion guy. He's able to contribute. It's just are the

2520
01:47:05,960 --> 01:47:07,680
Speaker 3: Giants going to be able to afford him?

2521
01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:08,000
Speaker 1: Tiki.

2522
01:47:08,080 --> 01:47:10,880
Speaker 22: Two years ago, when the Giants hired Carmen Brisillo to

2523
01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:13,240
Speaker 22: be their offensive line coach, I talked to somebody in

2524
01:47:13,320 --> 01:47:16,960
Speaker 22: Las Vegas who gave me such glowing reviews about him,

2525
01:47:17,320 --> 01:47:19,320
Speaker 22: And of course he was a Dante Scarnekia. Yeah, a

2526
01:47:19,360 --> 01:47:22,519
Speaker 22: disciple from the Patriots who is the guru of the

2527
01:47:22,640 --> 01:47:24,879
Speaker 22: latest version of offensive line coaches.

2528
01:47:25,280 --> 01:47:27,400
Speaker 1: And then what he got here I knew right away.

2529
01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:29,920
Speaker 1: This guy knows his set because he's a pro. He

2530
01:47:30,479 --> 01:47:30,760
Speaker 1: is a pro.

2531
01:47:31,120 --> 01:47:34,320
Speaker 22: And the fact that Van Roten and Illuminor followed him

2532
01:47:34,800 --> 01:47:38,080
Speaker 22: from Las Vegas to come here because of him told

2533
01:47:38,160 --> 01:47:41,800
Speaker 22: me an awful lot. So what I believe is that

2534
01:47:41,880 --> 01:47:44,400
Speaker 22: when you look at this offensive line and it's progression

2535
01:47:44,439 --> 01:47:45,439
Speaker 22: over the last two years.

2536
01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:48,639
Speaker 1: We knew what Runyon was. He's who he is. Yes,

2537
01:47:48,800 --> 01:47:51,680
Speaker 1: we know Andrew Thomas is an all pro. He is

2538
01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:52,280
Speaker 1: who he is.

2539
01:47:52,760 --> 01:47:55,000
Speaker 22: But what we found out in the last two years

2540
01:47:55,600 --> 01:47:58,479
Speaker 22: was that Illuminor was able to get better despite being

2541
01:47:58,520 --> 01:47:59,439
Speaker 22: a veteran in the league.

2542
01:47:59,479 --> 01:47:59,960
Speaker 7: For a few years.

2543
01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:02,240
Speaker 22: We knew Greg Van Roten, who's been in the league

2544
01:48:02,240 --> 01:48:04,599
Speaker 22: for more than a decade, proved to be a better

2545
01:48:04,720 --> 01:48:07,519
Speaker 22: player than just a guy. And we saw John Michael

2546
01:48:07,520 --> 01:48:10,360
Speaker 22: Schmidz get better over his two years with Briscilla. Someone

2547
01:48:10,439 --> 01:48:11,280
Speaker 22: was like, coaching matters.

2548
01:48:11,720 --> 01:48:15,559
Speaker 1: Don't you think absolutely don't you think it absolutely doesn't matter.

2549
01:48:15,720 --> 01:48:18,720
Speaker 22: I have to believe that whoever the coach is, Mike

2550
01:48:18,840 --> 01:48:21,639
Speaker 22: Kafger or anybody else, they're gonna look at that evidence

2551
01:48:21,680 --> 01:48:23,559
Speaker 22: and say, yeah, this guy's good.

2552
01:48:23,640 --> 01:48:25,439
Speaker 3: When you have a good offensive line coach. I was

2553
01:48:25,520 --> 01:48:27,880
Speaker 3: lucky when I during my years because I had mouse

2554
01:48:28,040 --> 01:48:30,439
Speaker 3: Jim McNally, who was great even though he was five

2555
01:48:30,600 --> 01:48:33,280
Speaker 3: 't nothing coaching a bunch of you know, six four

2556
01:48:33,320 --> 01:48:36,639
Speaker 3: to three hundred and thirty pounders, and then Pat Flaherty.

2557
01:48:36,800 --> 01:48:39,000
Speaker 3: So the continuity and they were here for a whiles.

2558
01:48:39,800 --> 01:48:43,360
Speaker 3: It creates stability at one of the most important positions

2559
01:48:43,520 --> 01:48:46,320
Speaker 3: for your quarterback and your run game, by the way,

2560
01:48:46,360 --> 01:48:48,760
Speaker 3: and that's something the Giants have done extraordinarily well this year.

2561
01:48:48,880 --> 01:48:51,479
Speaker 3: They're gonna finish this season as a top five or

2562
01:48:51,560 --> 01:48:54,400
Speaker 3: six rush offense in the NFL. Just by all the

2563
01:48:54,520 --> 01:48:57,080
Speaker 3: failures this team ran. The ball effectively, you took the

2564
01:48:57,120 --> 01:48:58,400
Speaker 3: words out of my mouth. Thiss Tyrone.

2565
01:48:58,400 --> 01:49:00,360
Speaker 2: Tracy was on with me two weeks ago on pregame

2566
01:49:00,400 --> 01:49:03,120
Speaker 2: show on the Giants Total podcast, and he said, look,

2567
01:49:03,160 --> 01:49:04,559
Speaker 2: one of the reasons the run game is good, as

2568
01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:07,160
Speaker 2: Colin Priscilla, He's a huge part of how we designed

2569
01:49:07,200 --> 01:49:09,200
Speaker 2: so is Tim Kelly, by the way, how we designed

2570
01:49:09,280 --> 01:49:12,280
Speaker 2: this thing and run the football. So that's become you know,

2571
01:49:12,360 --> 01:49:14,439
Speaker 2: one of the reasons Jackson Dart's been so successful as

2572
01:49:14,439 --> 01:49:14,800
Speaker 2: a rookie.

2573
01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:19,120
Speaker 3: Right, assistant coaches get overlooked sometimes, but you know, like

2574
01:49:19,520 --> 01:49:22,439
Speaker 3: when you have those guys that are not just good

2575
01:49:22,479 --> 01:49:25,840
Speaker 3: at communicating to you know, a group of five that

2576
01:49:26,120 --> 01:49:28,160
Speaker 3: have to work together. It's necessary for those guys to

2577
01:49:28,240 --> 01:49:31,960
Speaker 3: work together. But the communication is the only thing that matters.

2578
01:49:32,080 --> 01:49:33,719
Speaker 3: Like they have to be on the same page.

2579
01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:36,000
Speaker 22: And you would be angry if we left out the

2580
01:49:36,080 --> 01:49:38,679
Speaker 22: tight ends because they're also a part of it. Whether

2581
01:49:38,720 --> 01:49:40,880
Speaker 22: it was Kim Kelly who was the tight end coach

2582
01:49:40,920 --> 01:49:44,080
Speaker 22: and then became voc but he also worked in conjunction

2583
01:49:44,200 --> 01:49:46,479
Speaker 22: with Brisillo because a lot of those guys.

2584
01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:49,400
Speaker 1: Have to work in cemt with one of the friends too.

2585
01:49:49,439 --> 01:49:52,200
Speaker 1: Let's give him credit. It's interesting you.

2586
01:49:52,240 --> 01:49:54,920
Speaker 3: Talk about the tight ends. During during my era, Mike

2587
01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:57,880
Speaker 3: Pope was one of the most important pieces of the

2588
01:49:58,040 --> 01:50:01,519
Speaker 3: offensive run game design. You came from Washington, they ran

2589
01:50:01,600 --> 01:50:04,240
Speaker 3: that countertray, and we had all of these different run

2590
01:50:04,360 --> 01:50:08,240
Speaker 3: schemes so that we could dial up success regardless.

2591
01:50:07,720 --> 01:50:09,320
Speaker 5: Of what a defense was trying to do to us.

2592
01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:11,120
Speaker 1: And so the jots are the same way now they

2593
01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:13,640
Speaker 1: run all different seat and you have.

2594
01:50:13,760 --> 01:50:16,519
Speaker 3: To have that because if you're just an inside zone,

2595
01:50:16,560 --> 01:50:19,599
Speaker 3: split zone type run offense, you can get a beat

2596
01:50:19,680 --> 01:50:21,680
Speaker 3: on that right, you can dog to prevent those things

2597
01:50:21,720 --> 01:50:23,479
Speaker 3: from happening. But when you start throwing in the gap

2598
01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:26,840
Speaker 3: scheme and the trick plays in the motion for complexity's sake,

2599
01:50:26,920 --> 01:50:29,920
Speaker 3: those type of things create confusion and all it takes

2600
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:31,760
Speaker 3: sometimes for a running back when you got two good

2601
01:50:31,800 --> 01:50:35,200
Speaker 3: ones like we were alluding to Tyrone Tracy and Cam Scataboo,

2602
01:50:35,520 --> 01:50:38,120
Speaker 3: all you need is a step right, you need one step,

2603
01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:40,439
Speaker 3: you break a tackle, and you have big plays coming

2604
01:50:40,479 --> 01:50:41,240
Speaker 3: out of the run game.

2605
01:50:41,320 --> 01:50:43,760
Speaker 5: And it's something that I love to see it.

2606
01:50:43,840 --> 01:50:46,560
Speaker 3: I know we become infatuated in the NFL with the

2607
01:50:46,600 --> 01:50:49,599
Speaker 3: big pass game because the twenty plus yard plays increase

2608
01:50:49,680 --> 01:50:52,479
Speaker 3: your EPA. You know your chances of scoring by you know,

2609
01:50:53,000 --> 01:50:55,479
Speaker 3: twenty to thirty percent, whatever the number is. If you

2610
01:50:55,520 --> 01:50:57,639
Speaker 3: can create big plays in the run game, it makes

2611
01:50:57,720 --> 01:50:59,160
Speaker 3: everything so much easier.

2612
01:50:58,960 --> 01:51:00,840
Speaker 1: And it makes your quarter backs job easier.

2613
01:51:00,920 --> 01:51:02,400
Speaker 2: What I was gonna say is that you know, one

2614
01:51:02,400 --> 01:51:04,439
Speaker 2: of the reasons Darts had success, guys, that he's not

2615
01:51:04,560 --> 01:51:06,960
Speaker 2: sitting in thirty twelve. Yeah this year, right, He's just

2616
01:51:07,120 --> 01:51:09,880
Speaker 2: not right because they've run the ball well early on downs.

2617
01:51:10,240 --> 01:51:11,880
Speaker 2: Last piece of audio from the locker room of the

2618
01:51:12,000 --> 01:51:15,360
Speaker 2: year Abdul Carter, who finished his rookie year strong and

2619
01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:17,920
Speaker 2: not have a SAC today but was still impactful in

2620
01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:19,000
Speaker 2: the backfield throughout.

2621
01:51:19,400 --> 01:51:21,160
Speaker 1: He spoke to the media after the game. What's your

2622
01:51:21,160 --> 01:51:21,720
Speaker 1: Abdul Carter?

2623
01:51:22,200 --> 01:51:23,040
Speaker 7: You've got a player, a.

2624
01:51:23,080 --> 01:51:24,639
Speaker 22: Better person and carry over.

2625
01:51:24,840 --> 01:51:25,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, everything counts.

2626
01:51:25,720 --> 01:51:26,920
Speaker 5: All the habits you make counts.

2627
01:51:26,960 --> 01:51:28,680
Speaker 9: Everything you do was the end of the year is

2628
01:51:28,680 --> 01:51:30,240
Speaker 9: definitely want to carry you into next season. That's what

2629
01:51:30,280 --> 01:51:31,880
Speaker 9: I'm gonna try to do, to try to do more

2630
01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:32,320
Speaker 9: for the team.

2631
01:51:32,720 --> 01:51:34,720
Speaker 22: How much will you miss some of these teammates who

2632
01:51:34,920 --> 01:51:36,160
Speaker 22: probably will be here next year.

2633
01:51:36,240 --> 01:51:38,519
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm hurt right now. I'm miss I miss it already.

2634
01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:40,160
Speaker 9: I don't want to stop, so you don't.

2635
01:51:40,200 --> 01:51:42,000
Speaker 15: I'm sure if you're asking before Greg was saying, you're

2636
01:51:42,000 --> 01:51:43,360
Speaker 15: early in the season, you're a little.

2637
01:51:43,120 --> 01:51:46,240
Speaker 1: Bit more reserved in terms of not speaking up. Now

2638
01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:49,280
Speaker 1: what change to make you want to speak up and

2639
01:51:49,360 --> 01:51:49,760
Speaker 1: talk here?

2640
01:51:50,160 --> 01:51:51,760
Speaker 28: And it's that just you coming to your own You've

2641
01:51:51,760 --> 01:51:53,400
Speaker 28: wound up being a little bit more of a vocal.

2642
01:51:53,280 --> 01:51:54,040
Speaker 14: Later moving forward.

2643
01:51:54,560 --> 01:51:56,240
Speaker 9: Uh No, I can't really speak on that, but it's

2644
01:51:56,280 --> 01:51:58,719
Speaker 9: just I just felt they need to say something because

2645
01:51:59,160 --> 01:52:00,720
Speaker 9: you know, I felt like we were happy for the win,

2646
01:52:00,840 --> 01:52:03,880
Speaker 9: but just me and myself how I felt. I'm hurt

2647
01:52:03,960 --> 01:52:06,000
Speaker 9: right now, just just what I want to keep playing.

2648
01:52:06,040 --> 01:52:07,240
Speaker 9: I want to do more, and I feel like we

2649
01:52:07,280 --> 01:52:09,120
Speaker 9: should be in a better position than we're not now.

2650
01:52:09,120 --> 01:52:10,479
Speaker 9: I want to make sure that we do everything in

2651
01:52:10,520 --> 01:52:12,200
Speaker 9: our power next year so'll be not in this position.

2652
01:52:13,920 --> 01:52:15,280
Speaker 1: That's a dual quarter after the year.

2653
01:52:15,320 --> 01:52:17,080
Speaker 2: And Paul, you were down there with him man asking

2654
01:52:17,160 --> 01:52:19,640
Speaker 2: him some of those questions, and what's your impression of

2655
01:52:19,720 --> 01:52:21,360
Speaker 2: him heading into the off season here before we wrap

2656
01:52:21,439 --> 01:52:22,280
Speaker 2: things up with our calls.

2657
01:52:22,439 --> 01:52:25,040
Speaker 22: I think he got more locked in and flipped the

2658
01:52:25,120 --> 01:52:27,960
Speaker 22: switch over the final month of the season and became

2659
01:52:28,040 --> 01:52:31,200
Speaker 22: more of the player that the Giants expected, and look.

2660
01:52:31,360 --> 01:52:33,759
Speaker 1: Every rookie comes into this league. It's an adjustment.

2661
01:52:33,880 --> 01:52:36,519
Speaker 22: You've got to become a professional in a hurry, and

2662
01:52:36,720 --> 01:52:41,200
Speaker 22: not every guy follows the same timeline. Abdua Cardon needed

2663
01:52:41,280 --> 01:52:43,679
Speaker 22: a little more time, Thank goodness for the Giants.

2664
01:52:43,720 --> 01:52:45,400
Speaker 1: He didn't need the whole season, right.

2665
01:52:46,880 --> 01:52:50,120
Speaker 2: Or too three in the case of speaking to the

2666
01:52:50,160 --> 01:52:51,920
Speaker 2: point that we've made before, how it's tough to count

2667
01:52:52,000 --> 01:52:53,479
Speaker 2: on rookies third overall pick.

2668
01:52:53,640 --> 01:52:56,120
Speaker 1: I know what, people, that's a lot of expectations teams.

2669
01:52:56,200 --> 01:52:58,320
Speaker 1: Takes time sometimes for these guys to figure things.

2670
01:52:58,360 --> 01:53:00,160
Speaker 3: He's found his process, and I think that's that's what

2671
01:53:00,160 --> 01:53:02,600
Speaker 3: I appreciate most about his development these last five or

2672
01:53:02,600 --> 01:53:03,080
Speaker 3: six weeks.

2673
01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:05,240
Speaker 2: And now you hope you carries that into the offseason,

2674
01:53:05,280 --> 01:53:07,840
Speaker 2: has a good off season, finds some time whoever he's

2675
01:53:07,840 --> 01:53:10,519
Speaker 2: going to train with before the Giants offseason program starts,

2676
01:53:10,880 --> 01:53:13,360
Speaker 2: work on your craft. Wait, train, get a little heavier,

2677
01:53:13,400 --> 01:53:15,280
Speaker 2: get a little stronger, and see what he can be

2678
01:53:15,320 --> 01:53:16,080
Speaker 2: gone ten seconds.

2679
01:53:16,200 --> 01:53:18,200
Speaker 1: Oh see your Manori came to the Giants out of

2680
01:53:18,280 --> 01:53:18,880
Speaker 1: Troy State.

2681
01:53:19,439 --> 01:53:23,080
Speaker 22: Second round pick told me he had never watched film

2682
01:53:23,120 --> 01:53:23,679
Speaker 22: in college.

2683
01:53:23,720 --> 01:53:26,720
Speaker 1: He would sleep during the team meetings and when he

2684
01:53:26,800 --> 01:53:27,200
Speaker 1: got here.

2685
01:53:27,280 --> 01:53:31,040
Speaker 22: Michael Strahan taught him how to study and watch film

2686
01:53:31,520 --> 01:53:34,600
Speaker 22: and look what OC developed into once he understood what

2687
01:53:34,680 --> 01:53:35,080
Speaker 22: it meant to.

2688
01:53:35,080 --> 01:53:35,360
Speaker 7: Be a pro.

2689
01:53:35,479 --> 01:53:37,519
Speaker 2: Now, in fairness, I did talk I think Dion Barnes

2690
01:53:37,560 --> 01:53:40,160
Speaker 2: was his name. He was Abdullah's defensive line coach in

2691
01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:42,000
Speaker 2: Penn State. I talked to him in the offseason, and

2692
01:53:42,120 --> 01:53:44,879
Speaker 2: he said he was very good at studying the offensive

2693
01:53:44,920 --> 01:53:47,799
Speaker 2: tackle film before every game and find the weaknesses to exploit.

2694
01:53:47,880 --> 01:53:49,439
Speaker 1: So to an extent, he did.

2695
01:53:49,439 --> 01:53:55,080
Speaker 2: Do that very differently then, and watching film by yourself

2696
01:53:55,160 --> 01:53:57,920
Speaker 2: in college is different than watching film like you're supposed

2697
01:53:57,960 --> 01:54:00,200
Speaker 2: to in the National Football His whole different levels.

2698
01:54:00,760 --> 01:54:03,559
Speaker 3: It's a collective Enever, It's not just I'm gonna sit

2699
01:54:03,640 --> 01:54:06,120
Speaker 3: and steer it, you know, bodies moving on a screen.

2700
01:54:06,240 --> 01:54:08,600
Speaker 5: It's it's sitting with the guys on.

2701
01:54:08,720 --> 01:54:12,120
Speaker 1: Your your respect, the ball context, and having.

2702
01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:14,080
Speaker 5: In contact, knowing what to look for.

2703
01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:16,240
Speaker 2: Absolutely all right, So let's take a few more calls

2704
01:54:16,240 --> 01:54:17,640
Speaker 2: before you say goodbye. Some of these guys have been

2705
01:54:17,680 --> 01:54:19,000
Speaker 2: calling us all the year around. I want to give

2706
01:54:19,000 --> 01:54:22,160
Speaker 2: them one more chance to get in. We'll go Richie,

2707
01:54:22,600 --> 01:54:24,760
Speaker 2: Moose and Sonny because you guys have been holding for

2708
01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:26,200
Speaker 2: a while and to make sure we get you guys in.

2709
01:54:26,479 --> 01:54:29,120
Speaker 2: Let's go to Richie first. He's in Queen's Richie, thanks

2710
01:54:29,160 --> 01:54:29,880
Speaker 2: for being part of the show.

2711
01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:32,600
Speaker 5: What's Richie, John?

2712
01:54:32,800 --> 01:54:35,280
Speaker 35: I'm gonna mish you guys, Paul and I'll be talking

2713
01:54:35,320 --> 01:54:38,720
Speaker 35: to you as you know most certainly real quick. I

2714
01:54:38,800 --> 01:54:40,960
Speaker 35: don't want to say that the straight hand the stack

2715
01:54:41,200 --> 01:54:43,040
Speaker 35: was straight hand one or two.

2716
01:54:43,800 --> 01:54:43,920
Speaker 27: Uh.

2717
01:54:44,480 --> 01:54:47,040
Speaker 35: They're kind of kind of debatable on what happened. They

2718
01:54:47,040 --> 01:54:49,720
Speaker 35: would borrow it away, went down. I don't know whatever

2719
01:54:51,000 --> 01:54:56,000
Speaker 35: deserved it. Yeah, it's kind of like, hey.

2720
01:54:55,920 --> 01:54:58,520
Speaker 1: Richie, Hey Richie, guess what it was seventeen games instead

2721
01:54:58,560 --> 01:54:59,000
Speaker 1: of sixteen.

2722
01:54:59,080 --> 01:55:05,120
Speaker 35: No, there's a little take for your team maybe.

2723
01:55:05,160 --> 01:55:09,600
Speaker 22: I like that's fair, That's all right, a couple of things.

2724
01:55:10,440 --> 01:55:12,840
Speaker 35: I'm part of it. I didn't care one way if

2725
01:55:12,840 --> 01:55:15,400
Speaker 35: they want a lost today. It's meaningless to me, guys,

2726
01:55:15,720 --> 01:55:19,480
Speaker 35: especially the way the team played Dallas really doesn't mean anything.

2727
01:55:19,560 --> 01:55:21,680
Speaker 35: Take you know better than I going into next year.

2728
01:55:21,960 --> 01:55:23,320
Speaker 5: It means something that means something.

2729
01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:27,680
Speaker 3: But what means something to it means something to Jackson Dart,

2730
01:55:27,760 --> 01:55:29,360
Speaker 3: it means something to those guys that are going to

2731
01:55:29,400 --> 01:55:31,080
Speaker 3: be a part of trying to build something better.

2732
01:55:31,440 --> 01:55:31,920
Speaker 5: Next season.

2733
01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:34,320
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean anything for next year, but it means

2734
01:55:34,400 --> 01:55:35,840
Speaker 1: something to the players. Correct.

2735
01:55:36,720 --> 01:55:38,720
Speaker 35: Okay, and and as far as the pick goes, I

2736
01:55:38,840 --> 01:55:41,120
Speaker 35: hope wherever we are, hope of Reese is out there,

2737
01:55:41,160 --> 01:55:43,680
Speaker 35: hopeing Bailey's out there. I want to see our defense

2738
01:55:43,720 --> 01:55:45,520
Speaker 35: all line back because Okorea, I know, made a couple

2739
01:55:45,560 --> 01:55:48,640
Speaker 35: of interceptions and not the answer. McFadden comes back, they'll

2740
01:55:48,680 --> 01:55:51,640
Speaker 35: be better. But here here's the real point, John, I

2741
01:55:51,720 --> 01:55:54,440
Speaker 35: made it on Saturday. I understand that you want a

2742
01:55:54,480 --> 01:55:56,880
Speaker 35: guy that's going to build up dot. I want this

2743
01:55:57,040 --> 01:55:59,480
Speaker 35: team teak to be a defensive minded team because that's

2744
01:55:59,520 --> 01:56:01,840
Speaker 35: what they was supposed to be initially this year. I

2745
01:56:01,960 --> 01:56:04,480
Speaker 35: want to guy. I am really high on Sula, I

2746
01:56:04,600 --> 01:56:07,160
Speaker 35: really am. I'm high on Shula. And can we keep

2747
01:56:07,280 --> 01:56:11,240
Speaker 35: Kafka as an offensive coordinator? I don't think it's the craziness,

2748
01:56:11,920 --> 01:56:17,120
Speaker 35: but look, yeah, Tike, what happens with the loser of

2749
01:56:17,600 --> 01:56:21,520
Speaker 35: Harboll and Tomlin tonight? That could be question?

2750
01:56:21,880 --> 01:56:24,680
Speaker 3: Man, right, I think so much of it, Richie, appreciate

2751
01:56:24,720 --> 01:56:27,040
Speaker 3: your call off, long and happy new year to you.

2752
01:56:27,080 --> 01:56:29,000
Speaker 5: I think it's going to matter what it looks like

2753
01:56:29,560 --> 01:56:31,400
Speaker 5: for both of those Both of those guys.

2754
01:56:31,480 --> 01:56:34,080
Speaker 3: I mean, if it's ugly for either side, then maybe

2755
01:56:34,160 --> 01:56:37,040
Speaker 3: that's the last straw that that kind of ends it

2756
01:56:37,160 --> 01:56:37,880
Speaker 3: for either one of those.

2757
01:56:37,960 --> 01:56:40,160
Speaker 1: But again, if one of those guys, let's let's go.

2758
01:56:40,200 --> 01:56:41,240
Speaker 1: Do they want to coach next season?

2759
01:56:41,320 --> 01:56:41,480
Speaker 7: Yeah?

2760
01:56:41,520 --> 01:56:43,880
Speaker 2: He guys been grinding for a decade. Do they want

2761
01:56:43,880 --> 01:56:45,120
Speaker 2: to be like, yo, dude, I need a break for

2762
01:56:45,280 --> 01:56:45,520
Speaker 2: a year?

2763
01:56:45,640 --> 01:56:45,800
Speaker 17: Yeah?

2764
01:56:45,800 --> 01:56:50,160
Speaker 3: Well, for Tomlin, it's been two decades, right, it's been

2765
01:56:50,240 --> 01:56:52,520
Speaker 3: saying it's eighteen season, right, in two decades, I'm sorry.

2766
01:56:53,080 --> 01:56:56,120
Speaker 3: Lots of success for for both of them, and it's

2767
01:56:56,200 --> 01:56:59,240
Speaker 3: I think it matters how it ends. I think John

2768
01:56:59,320 --> 01:57:02,960
Speaker 3: Harball this three two or three weeks ago, and it

2769
01:57:03,080 --> 01:57:05,960
Speaker 3: sounded like, no matter what happens, he's coaching next year,

2770
01:57:06,320 --> 01:57:07,480
Speaker 3: and so he's going.

2771
01:57:07,320 --> 01:57:07,720
Speaker 31: To get that.

2772
01:57:08,120 --> 01:57:11,000
Speaker 3: He basically said, whether it's whether it's here in Baltimore

2773
01:57:11,120 --> 01:57:13,080
Speaker 3: or whether it's someone else somewhere else, he wants to

2774
01:57:13,120 --> 01:57:13,560
Speaker 3: be a coach.

2775
01:57:13,600 --> 01:57:13,720
Speaker 1: Now.

2776
01:57:14,600 --> 01:57:17,240
Speaker 3: Right now, there's only two openings, right it's Tennessee and

2777
01:57:17,280 --> 01:57:18,000
Speaker 3: the New York Giants.

2778
01:57:18,000 --> 01:57:19,880
Speaker 1: So could there be more sure? Could there?

2779
01:57:20,240 --> 01:57:23,080
Speaker 5: Could it happen in Cleveland, et cetera?

2780
01:57:23,120 --> 01:57:23,480
Speaker 1: Who knows?

2781
01:57:23,800 --> 01:57:27,040
Speaker 3: But I think if John Harbill or Mike Tomlinan comes available,

2782
01:57:27,440 --> 01:57:30,880
Speaker 3: they have to be seriously considered for this job, which,

2783
01:57:30,920 --> 01:57:33,080
Speaker 3: as we talked about a little bit earlier, is one

2784
01:57:33,120 --> 01:57:35,720
Speaker 3: of the going to be one of the desirable jobs

2785
01:57:35,960 --> 01:57:38,600
Speaker 3: that come available this offseason or that is available this offseas.

2786
01:57:38,640 --> 01:57:41,320
Speaker 2: By the way, the Rams trying to win today and

2787
01:57:41,440 --> 01:57:44,480
Speaker 2: if they win, they hold the they will hold the

2788
01:57:45,040 --> 01:57:48,280
Speaker 2: five seed in the NFC playoff race. They just went

2789
01:57:48,360 --> 01:57:50,839
Speaker 2: behind to Izona Cardinals twenty to sixteen.

2790
01:57:50,960 --> 01:57:52,280
Speaker 5: Struggling against the Cardinals wift.

2791
01:57:52,320 --> 01:57:53,880
Speaker 2: And by the way, if the Cardinals do win that game,

2792
01:57:53,880 --> 01:57:55,920
Speaker 2: that would also help the Giants draft posess draft ife

2793
01:57:55,960 --> 01:57:57,320
Speaker 2: for the Giant fans that care about that.

2794
01:57:57,720 --> 01:57:59,760
Speaker 1: So just something to keep in mind. The Jets do

2795
01:57:59,840 --> 01:58:01,600
Speaker 1: to the Giants, and he favors though they trail the

2796
01:58:01,640 --> 01:58:02,520
Speaker 1: Bills twenty nine.

2797
01:58:02,440 --> 01:58:05,320
Speaker 2: To nothing, that they're embarrassing and twenty nine nothing again,

2798
01:58:05,480 --> 01:58:07,320
Speaker 2: look they right now, they and if they end up

2799
01:58:07,360 --> 01:58:09,320
Speaker 2: losing that game, they will have the second overall pick

2800
01:58:09,360 --> 01:58:12,160
Speaker 2: in the draft. So you'll have two quarterback needy teams

2801
01:58:12,200 --> 01:58:13,600
Speaker 2: on the top of the draft, and I think that

2802
01:58:13,800 --> 01:58:15,600
Speaker 2: makes those decisions fairly.

2803
01:58:15,480 --> 01:58:18,560
Speaker 3: Assuming both of the quarterbacks that everybody's talking about at

2804
01:58:18,600 --> 01:58:19,000
Speaker 3: the top.

2805
01:58:18,880 --> 01:58:21,400
Speaker 2: Of this draft come out well, obviously mendoz Is, but

2806
01:58:21,440 --> 01:58:23,280
Speaker 2: we got to see if Dante Morris are coming out too,

2807
01:58:23,320 --> 01:58:25,200
Speaker 2: which which we don't know yet for sure, depends how

2808
01:58:25,240 --> 01:58:28,640
Speaker 2: the rest of that college football playoffs go. All right,

2809
01:58:28,720 --> 01:58:33,120
Speaker 2: let's go to Moose. He is in Jamaica. I'm assuming

2810
01:58:33,120 --> 01:58:33,680
Speaker 2: that's Jamaica.

2811
01:58:33,720 --> 01:58:34,280
Speaker 1: Queen's moves.

2812
01:58:34,280 --> 01:58:37,400
Speaker 16: What's going on, buddy, that's what's going on.

2813
01:58:37,600 --> 01:58:41,600
Speaker 27: Hey guys, Happy New Year. Hoping you enjoyed. Yeah, chilling,

2814
01:58:41,760 --> 01:58:44,360
Speaker 27: I hope you enjoy your holiday, and instead to end

2815
01:58:44,400 --> 01:58:46,560
Speaker 27: the season with the win first, real quick, just at

2816
01:58:46,560 --> 01:58:48,960
Speaker 27: the point of my call, thanks, appreciate it, not the

2817
01:58:49,040 --> 01:58:52,400
Speaker 27: point of my call. Remember, Torell's Suns had a bad combine,

2818
01:58:52,520 --> 01:58:55,840
Speaker 27: bad measurable dad pro day, and he slid from a

2819
01:58:56,040 --> 01:58:59,640
Speaker 27: top three k to where he was drafted. You think,

2820
01:59:00,280 --> 01:59:03,240
Speaker 27: it's not who's that where you drafted, it's who you

2821
01:59:03,400 --> 01:59:04,880
Speaker 27: draft and who's drafting them.

2822
01:59:05,520 --> 01:59:06,080
Speaker 1: Right, And.

2823
01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:10,080
Speaker 5: Don't bring up because he beat me in the Super

2824
01:59:10,120 --> 01:59:10,960
Speaker 5: Bowl in two thousand.

2825
01:59:12,160 --> 01:59:14,840
Speaker 27: I remember, I remember that was the first Bowl ever.

2826
01:59:14,880 --> 01:59:15,240
Speaker 24: You was.

2827
01:59:17,160 --> 01:59:18,720
Speaker 1: Definitely and then a couple of the guys on that

2828
01:59:18,760 --> 01:59:19,800
Speaker 1: defense were pretty good.

2829
01:59:21,000 --> 01:59:23,120
Speaker 27: I mean, you couldn't get to carry Collins and stop

2830
01:59:23,240 --> 01:59:29,360
Speaker 27: throwing it to the guys at Purple. Anyway, it is

2831
01:59:29,440 --> 01:59:32,720
Speaker 27: the world's greatest defensive we ever saw, apparently except the

2832
01:59:32,800 --> 01:59:37,640
Speaker 27: twenty twelve team maybe, but no, what a season. I'd

2833
01:59:37,720 --> 01:59:40,160
Speaker 27: like to call this season a summon up growing teams.

2834
01:59:40,560 --> 01:59:42,200
Speaker 27: We had a lot of chances to win. But if

2835
01:59:42,240 --> 01:59:44,600
Speaker 27: you look at it, look at the schedule if you

2836
01:59:44,680 --> 01:59:47,320
Speaker 27: want to like, look how many people, how many teams

2837
01:59:47,360 --> 01:59:50,200
Speaker 27: these things that were either that are in the playoffs,

2838
01:59:50,280 --> 01:59:53,560
Speaker 27: currently in their quarterbacks, or up to the last two

2839
01:59:53,600 --> 01:59:56,120
Speaker 27: weeks of the season buying for a playoff spot. So

2840
01:59:56,280 --> 01:59:58,680
Speaker 27: it was gonna be rough. I didn't expect much I

2841
01:59:58,800 --> 02:00:01,720
Speaker 27: wanted to see. And then proving offense. I knew our

2842
02:00:01,800 --> 02:00:04,640
Speaker 27: defense would struggle a little bit stopping the run because

2843
02:00:04,680 --> 02:00:07,880
Speaker 27: we lost the key run stuffer on the line. The

2844
02:00:08,040 --> 02:00:10,000
Speaker 27: free agency didn't fill that in with the draft. We

2845
02:00:10,080 --> 02:00:13,360
Speaker 27: made a draft pick, but he's developing. So but what

2846
02:00:13,480 --> 02:00:16,440
Speaker 27: I hope to see in summing up this season and

2847
02:00:16,560 --> 02:00:19,040
Speaker 27: my phone call, thanks for man, let me make the call,

2848
02:00:19,760 --> 02:00:23,520
Speaker 27: is the continued progress of Darts and whatever pieces we

2849
02:00:23,600 --> 02:00:29,120
Speaker 27: added on and what to do with alumin or Londell Robinson,

2850
02:00:29,360 --> 02:00:32,640
Speaker 27: Okara Kay and whoever else we need to replace that

2851
02:00:32,760 --> 02:00:34,720
Speaker 27: may Leaven free agency techniquely.

2852
02:00:34,280 --> 02:00:35,720
Speaker 1: Sad and flat Bellinger.

2853
02:00:36,040 --> 02:00:36,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, we got it.

2854
02:00:36,920 --> 02:00:38,160
Speaker 3: We had a bunch of guys that are gonna have

2855
02:00:38,200 --> 02:00:40,160
Speaker 3: to We're gonna have to make decisions on and thanks

2856
02:00:40,240 --> 02:00:41,920
Speaker 3: on you. I appreciate you moves. Happy new year to

2857
02:00:41,960 --> 02:00:45,000
Speaker 3: you as well. And these are the decisions of the

2858
02:00:45,040 --> 02:00:47,360
Speaker 3: general manager and the cap guy. The Giants don't have

2859
02:00:47,400 --> 02:00:49,960
Speaker 3: a ton of cap room in twenty twenty six. They

2860
02:00:50,000 --> 02:00:51,920
Speaker 3: have a lot more in twenty twenty seven.

2861
02:00:51,760 --> 02:00:53,440
Speaker 2: Which is why you should be able to push some

2862
02:00:53,520 --> 02:00:56,320
Speaker 2: money back in these if you need to, if you

2863
02:00:56,400 --> 02:00:58,160
Speaker 2: need to, and you got to be smart about that.

2864
02:00:58,200 --> 02:01:00,440
Speaker 3: And I think the biggest thing from it a general

2865
02:01:00,560 --> 02:01:04,640
Speaker 3: managing standpoint in this offseason is making decisions not based

2866
02:01:04,720 --> 02:01:07,040
Speaker 3: on your motion, not based on well, this is the

2867
02:01:07,080 --> 02:01:08,800
Speaker 3: guy that I drafted, this is the guy. It's got

2868
02:01:08,920 --> 02:01:12,640
Speaker 3: to be metric based. It's got to be on performance

2869
02:01:12,720 --> 02:01:15,840
Speaker 3: and what they project to be going forward. Because if

2870
02:01:15,880 --> 02:01:19,000
Speaker 3: you're just keeping guys around because you feel like they

2871
02:01:19,680 --> 02:01:22,640
Speaker 3: should be here, you're gonna end up making the wrong decision.

2872
02:01:22,680 --> 02:01:24,240
Speaker 5: It's got to be about the guys that need to

2873
02:01:24,320 --> 02:01:24,600
Speaker 5: be here.

2874
02:01:24,920 --> 02:01:26,320
Speaker 1: And look, here's the bottom line, guys.

2875
02:01:26,560 --> 02:01:28,480
Speaker 2: As we go along here and the cap keeps getting

2876
02:01:28,480 --> 02:01:32,240
Speaker 2: bigger and bigger, the free asians become scarcer and scarcer

2877
02:01:32,680 --> 02:01:35,879
Speaker 2: because teams have more cap space to retain the players

2878
02:01:35,920 --> 02:01:36,520
Speaker 2: that they like.

2879
02:01:36,760 --> 02:01:38,480
Speaker 1: With tags if they choose that too.

2880
02:01:38,760 --> 02:01:42,000
Speaker 2: So as you get further along here, I mean, I'm

2881
02:01:42,040 --> 02:01:45,200
Speaker 2: looking at the top for agents in this year's class.

2882
02:01:45,960 --> 02:01:46,600
Speaker 1: It's not great.

2883
02:01:46,800 --> 02:01:48,760
Speaker 2: No, Like, there's not a lot of big names here,

2884
02:01:48,840 --> 02:01:52,000
Speaker 2: like the top wide receivers Christian Kirk right, like, there's

2885
02:01:52,080 --> 02:01:55,520
Speaker 2: just not a lot of big names, bigger and again

2886
02:01:55,560 --> 02:01:57,200
Speaker 2: he's the guy don' like it to get tagged, right,

2887
02:01:57,600 --> 02:02:01,000
Speaker 2: So you look at these the the group of players,

2888
02:02:01,120 --> 02:02:04,040
Speaker 2: and it's gonna be hard to find difference makers at all.

2889
02:02:04,600 --> 02:02:07,320
Speaker 2: And then throw on top of that, there's so much

2890
02:02:07,520 --> 02:02:11,840
Speaker 2: money available to spend because of the increasing cap. The

2891
02:02:12,240 --> 02:02:16,120
Speaker 2: amount that these guys get overpaid commensurate to the value

2892
02:02:16,200 --> 02:02:19,120
Speaker 2: they bring on the field is going to get greater

2893
02:02:19,320 --> 02:02:23,200
Speaker 2: and greater. So it makes free agency as exciting as

2894
02:02:23,280 --> 02:02:25,200
Speaker 2: that two or three day period is, and you get

2895
02:02:25,240 --> 02:02:28,200
Speaker 2: all pumped up. I'm getting this guy, I'm getting that guy.

2896
02:02:28,720 --> 02:02:30,920
Speaker 2: A lot of times, it's fool's gold, and it's a

2897
02:02:31,000 --> 02:02:33,760
Speaker 2: fool's errand to go about it this way. That's why

2898
02:02:33,840 --> 02:02:35,880
Speaker 2: it comes back to it. We've talked about it. Guys,

2899
02:02:36,640 --> 02:02:40,760
Speaker 2: draft and develop. It's hard re sign your guys. That's

2900
02:02:40,840 --> 02:02:41,400
Speaker 2: how you do it.

2901
02:02:41,400 --> 02:02:43,760
Speaker 3: It's hard to live in free agency unless you do

2902
02:02:43,840 --> 02:02:45,880
Speaker 3: it like the Rams do. And I'm not against that model,

2903
02:02:45,920 --> 02:02:48,520
Speaker 3: by the way, where you overpay, you push money down

2904
02:02:48,560 --> 02:02:51,200
Speaker 3: the line, you avoid put all these void years on.

2905
02:02:51,240 --> 02:02:53,280
Speaker 3: It's what the Eagles have done and it allowed them

2906
02:02:53,280 --> 02:02:55,560
Speaker 3: to win a super Bowl. It's what the Rams have done.

2907
02:02:55,560 --> 02:02:57,320
Speaker 3: It helped them win a super Bowl and then fantasy.

2908
02:02:57,320 --> 02:03:00,000
Speaker 3: The Eagles spend most of their big money on recite

2909
02:03:01,120 --> 02:03:03,280
Speaker 3: do But I'm saying, but it's a lot of that

2910
02:03:03,440 --> 02:03:06,240
Speaker 3: is kicked down the line so you can you can

2911
02:03:06,320 --> 02:03:09,120
Speaker 3: retain those guys. Again, it's free agency, and it's guys

2912
02:03:09,120 --> 02:03:10,040
Speaker 3: that they drafted.

2913
02:03:10,080 --> 02:03:12,560
Speaker 22: But every year they get guys fall into their labs

2914
02:03:12,600 --> 02:03:15,600
Speaker 22: in the draft and they get Ultra and how about

2915
02:03:15,640 --> 02:03:16,400
Speaker 22: Sonny zact Bond.

2916
02:03:16,640 --> 02:03:19,040
Speaker 3: But it's yeah, right, but but it's yes, they do

2917
02:03:19,200 --> 02:03:21,040
Speaker 3: fall to their to the to them in the draft.

2918
02:03:21,040 --> 02:03:23,440
Speaker 3: But they've also scout. They scout the best.

2919
02:03:23,240 --> 02:03:24,200
Speaker 1: Players they do right.

2920
02:03:24,240 --> 02:03:26,919
Speaker 3: They bring in They bring in d Lineman from Georgia,

2921
02:03:27,320 --> 02:03:29,960
Speaker 3: and Georgia won multiple national championships in a row.

2922
02:03:30,040 --> 02:03:31,160
Speaker 5: Do you think that those guys are going.

2923
02:03:31,160 --> 02:03:31,640
Speaker 1: To be players?

2924
02:03:31,720 --> 02:03:31,920
Speaker 14: Sure?

2925
02:03:32,040 --> 02:03:34,800
Speaker 2: John Campil's from a pretty good program, right the last

2926
02:03:34,840 --> 02:03:35,520
Speaker 2: time I checked.

2927
02:03:36,440 --> 02:03:38,640
Speaker 1: You know, I think the the interesting part John, about

2928
02:03:38,640 --> 02:03:39,120
Speaker 1: what you just.

2929
02:03:39,120 --> 02:03:42,160
Speaker 2: Said, Jalen Carter, Georgia right, like ify Loland Smith's look

2930
02:03:42,200 --> 02:03:45,240
Speaker 2: at the program, it's about economics, the law of supply

2931
02:03:45,480 --> 02:03:46,080
Speaker 2: and demand.

2932
02:03:46,200 --> 02:03:49,680
Speaker 1: And that's why every Giants fan out there understand.

2933
02:03:49,280 --> 02:03:52,000
Speaker 22: That the law of supply and demand is probably going

2934
02:03:52,080 --> 02:03:55,200
Speaker 22: to result in some big numbers from other teams, for

2935
02:03:55,360 --> 02:03:59,960
Speaker 22: Cordell Flott, for Jermaine a Luminor, and for Wandell Robinson.

2936
02:04:00,440 --> 02:04:04,040
Speaker 22: And if the Giants can't chase those numbers, you're gonna

2937
02:04:04,080 --> 02:04:05,160
Speaker 22: lose those players right now.

2938
02:04:05,200 --> 02:04:06,920
Speaker 3: You got to replace them. And who you replace them

2939
02:04:06,960 --> 02:04:09,320
Speaker 3: with in the draft or otherwise is really what's gonna

2940
02:04:09,320 --> 02:04:09,880
Speaker 3: matter most.

2941
02:04:10,680 --> 02:04:12,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's why the decisions end up being so tough.

2942
02:04:12,960 --> 02:04:15,280
Speaker 2: When you figure out how you want to do this,

2943
02:04:15,320 --> 02:04:16,880
Speaker 2: and they'll put the cap guys to work, you know,

2944
02:04:17,200 --> 02:04:20,160
Speaker 2: Kevin de Bourbons and Mac Cruz will figure out how

2945
02:04:20,240 --> 02:04:22,000
Speaker 2: to make that happen. All right, let's wrap things up

2946
02:04:22,280 --> 02:04:24,200
Speaker 2: with our buddy, Sonny and Malvern. He will be our

2947
02:04:24,280 --> 02:04:27,600
Speaker 2: final caller on Giants extra point this year. Sonny, how

2948
02:04:27,640 --> 02:04:28,320
Speaker 2: are you pass up?

2949
02:04:28,360 --> 02:04:28,640
Speaker 5: Sonny?

2950
02:04:29,560 --> 02:04:29,800
Speaker 16: Wow?

2951
02:04:29,920 --> 02:04:33,080
Speaker 18: What a great, great honor it is. Ticky, Paul and John,

2952
02:04:33,120 --> 02:04:35,600
Speaker 18: I miss your last Saturday. It's an honor to be

2953
02:04:35,680 --> 02:04:36,320
Speaker 18: the last caller.

2954
02:04:36,560 --> 02:04:37,000
Speaker 1: I'm listening.

2955
02:04:37,040 --> 02:04:39,280
Speaker 18: It feels good, feels great actually for a giant win.

2956
02:04:39,360 --> 02:04:42,480
Speaker 18: Whether you're a player, a coach, a fan, it doesn't matter.

2957
02:04:42,720 --> 02:04:45,920
Speaker 18: Every win in the NFL is a great win. And listen,

2958
02:04:45,960 --> 02:04:47,920
Speaker 18: we're not the Raiders of this year with the two

2959
02:04:48,000 --> 02:04:52,240
Speaker 18: thousand and eleven occults when they paint suck for Luckier,

2960
02:04:52,520 --> 02:04:54,640
Speaker 18: when after Peyton Manning's neck injury, they didn't sign a

2961
02:04:54,680 --> 02:04:57,600
Speaker 18: veteran quarterback when they played quarterbacks like Curtis Painter, which

2962
02:04:57,680 --> 02:05:00,560
Speaker 18: led to widespread losses. Listen, the main thing is get

2963
02:05:00,600 --> 02:05:03,600
Speaker 18: the right coach in here, the right coaching staff. Coaching

2964
02:05:03,680 --> 02:05:05,640
Speaker 18: staff is important because you don't want your head coach

2965
02:05:05,720 --> 02:05:08,440
Speaker 18: coaching the coaches. So let's go after the right players.

2966
02:05:08,520 --> 02:05:10,880
Speaker 18: Let's go after a linebacker from Ohio State, one of

2967
02:05:10,920 --> 02:05:13,360
Speaker 18: those two guys. Guys, I think we're in great shape

2968
02:05:13,400 --> 02:05:14,080
Speaker 18: for next year.

2969
02:05:14,400 --> 02:05:17,080
Speaker 5: Go big Blue, no doubt, Sonny.

2970
02:05:17,160 --> 02:05:19,480
Speaker 1: And by the way, the safety from Ohio state's pretty good.

2971
02:05:21,200 --> 02:05:22,760
Speaker 1: I mean, all those guys are and it's just I

2972
02:05:22,800 --> 02:05:25,520
Speaker 1: don't know how they got knocked out. So he's those

2973
02:05:25,560 --> 02:05:28,880
Speaker 1: their defensive tackle, but they got some players. Maybe the

2974
02:05:28,960 --> 02:05:31,640
Speaker 1: league should just expand and put Ohio State in the NFL.

2975
02:05:31,840 --> 02:05:34,320
Speaker 3: But again, they won national championship there a year ago.

2976
02:05:34,440 --> 02:05:36,640
Speaker 3: It's it's it's a good program. Ryan Day has done

2977
02:05:36,640 --> 02:05:39,800
Speaker 3: a heck of a job there and so that's that's

2978
02:05:40,080 --> 02:05:42,480
Speaker 3: that's the start of it. Right There's it's free agency.

2979
02:05:42,760 --> 02:05:45,840
Speaker 3: College football is professional football. It's just it just it's

2980
02:05:46,000 --> 02:05:49,600
Speaker 3: called something else. And you know it's monetized differently these days,

2981
02:05:49,640 --> 02:05:51,600
Speaker 3: and so you got to get the guys that are

2982
02:05:51,640 --> 02:05:54,560
Speaker 3: motivated to play, but also the guys that aren't afraid

2983
02:05:55,040 --> 02:05:57,760
Speaker 3: to go against competition. And I think when you see

2984
02:05:57,800 --> 02:06:00,240
Speaker 3: these guys at these big programs, the Ohio State in

2985
02:06:00,320 --> 02:06:05,240
Speaker 3: the the Alabamas of the world, et cetera, Georgia's, they're

2986
02:06:05,280 --> 02:06:07,600
Speaker 3: not going in as freshmen and playing right away, right

2987
02:06:07,880 --> 02:06:09,760
Speaker 3: they're competing against guys are going to be playing in

2988
02:06:09,840 --> 02:06:12,480
Speaker 3: the league. And so it's the whole cliche. I mean,

2989
02:06:12,520 --> 02:06:16,520
Speaker 3: I said this earlier. NFL players. Football players live by cliches.

2990
02:06:16,600 --> 02:06:19,400
Speaker 3: It's iron sharpening iron. You get better when you compete

2991
02:06:19,400 --> 02:06:21,360
Speaker 3: against the best, not when you're just handed a job

2992
02:06:21,400 --> 02:06:22,400
Speaker 3: and you know something cheeky.

2993
02:06:22,480 --> 02:06:25,640
Speaker 22: Because of the nil, more of these college guys will

2994
02:06:25,800 --> 02:06:29,320
Speaker 22: stay longer in school and play more games in school

2995
02:06:29,400 --> 02:06:32,520
Speaker 22: because they're getting cash anyway, which means they're being more

2996
02:06:32,640 --> 02:06:34,200
Speaker 22: developed by the time they get.

2997
02:06:34,120 --> 02:06:36,560
Speaker 2: To the There are going to be fewer underclassmen in

2998
02:06:36,640 --> 02:06:39,320
Speaker 2: this draft than we've seen in right, and.

2999
02:06:39,320 --> 02:06:42,440
Speaker 3: The only only position it really hurts you to stay

3000
02:06:42,520 --> 02:06:46,160
Speaker 3: is quarterback because you come in as an older, older player.

3001
02:06:46,240 --> 02:06:48,280
Speaker 5: You know, you're twenty five to twenty four years old.

3002
02:06:48,320 --> 02:06:48,600
Speaker 1: Say that.

3003
02:06:48,640 --> 02:06:50,800
Speaker 2: The Jaymes, Daniel bon Nicks, though, right, came in and

3004
02:06:50,960 --> 02:06:54,040
Speaker 2: up being great. Tyler Shuck, Tyler Shock a better.

3005
02:06:53,880 --> 02:06:56,360
Speaker 3: One, having a good season this year down in New Orleans.

3006
02:06:56,440 --> 02:06:58,880
Speaker 3: But a part of that, let's be honest, is Kellen Moore.

3007
02:06:58,960 --> 02:07:01,120
Speaker 3: Kellen Moore has been a good head coach, and I

3008
02:07:01,160 --> 02:07:02,720
Speaker 3: think we kind of knew that for a couple of

3009
02:07:02,840 --> 02:07:05,720
Speaker 3: years coming, and he got his opportunity and after some

3010
02:07:05,840 --> 02:07:08,320
Speaker 3: fits and starts down there, they turned it around and

3011
02:07:08,400 --> 02:07:09,280
Speaker 3: won some games late.

3012
02:07:09,400 --> 02:07:11,160
Speaker 2: All right, So let me just do the playoffs real

3013
02:07:11,240 --> 02:07:13,160
Speaker 2: quick here, just so fans that are listening, and you

3014
02:07:13,200 --> 02:07:14,640
Speaker 2: guys correct me if I get any of this wrong,

3015
02:07:14,640 --> 02:07:16,800
Speaker 2: because I'm going off two sheets here, and if I'm wrong,

3016
02:07:16,840 --> 02:07:19,240
Speaker 2: I'm mistaken. The Broncos right now have a thirteen to

3017
02:07:19,320 --> 02:07:21,760
Speaker 2: three lead over the Chargers. They're gonna look like hold

3018
02:07:21,760 --> 02:07:24,080
Speaker 2: onto that game. They're gonna get the one seed. The

3019
02:07:24,200 --> 02:07:26,440
Speaker 2: Patriots they're winning their game. They're gonna be the two

3020
02:07:26,480 --> 02:07:28,560
Speaker 2: seed in the AFC. The Jaguars are gonna be the

3021
02:07:28,600 --> 02:07:31,200
Speaker 2: three seed. The four seed will either be the Steelers

3022
02:07:31,360 --> 02:07:33,800
Speaker 2: or the Ravens, depending on who wins tonight. On Sunday

3023
02:07:33,840 --> 02:07:36,360
Speaker 2: Night Football, you have the Houston Texans. They won today.

3024
02:07:36,400 --> 02:07:39,240
Speaker 2: They will be the fifth seed. The Chargers are and

3025
02:07:39,400 --> 02:07:44,800
Speaker 2: the Bills are locked in here. The Chargers, if they lose,

3026
02:07:45,560 --> 02:07:48,120
Speaker 2: they will drop to the seventh seed. Because the Bills

3027
02:07:48,200 --> 02:07:50,240
Speaker 2: right now are blowing out the New York Jets, they

3028
02:07:50,280 --> 02:07:52,360
Speaker 2: will jump up to the sixth seed.

3029
02:07:52,480 --> 02:07:53,200
Speaker 1: In the AFC.

3030
02:07:53,720 --> 02:07:56,360
Speaker 2: In the NFC playoff race, it's a little bit more complicated,

3031
02:07:56,400 --> 02:07:58,600
Speaker 2: but I think I have this set. The Seattle Seahawks,

3032
02:07:58,640 --> 02:08:00,600
Speaker 2: with that win last night, they have the first round

3033
02:08:00,680 --> 02:08:02,120
Speaker 2: by they will be the number one seed.

3034
02:08:02,400 --> 02:08:05,560
Speaker 1: The Bears right now are losing, so are the Eagles.

3035
02:08:05,920 --> 02:08:08,960
Speaker 2: If both those teams win or lose, the Bears hold

3036
02:08:09,000 --> 02:08:12,040
Speaker 2: the tie breaker. If the Bears lose and the Eagles win,

3037
02:08:12,360 --> 02:08:14,120
Speaker 2: the Eagles will move up to the two seed. The

3038
02:08:14,160 --> 02:08:17,000
Speaker 2: Bears will be the three. You have the Carolina Panthers

3039
02:08:17,080 --> 02:08:20,240
Speaker 2: locked into the four seed, talk about backing into the playoffs.

3040
02:08:20,480 --> 02:08:22,720
Speaker 2: They lose the must win game yesterday, but the Falcons

3041
02:08:22,760 --> 02:08:27,440
Speaker 2: win today. That pushes the Falcons into the postseeds. Panthers,

3042
02:08:27,520 --> 02:08:30,840
Speaker 2: the pat Panthers and nine. I know again, by the way,

3043
02:08:31,280 --> 02:08:33,440
Speaker 2: not the first time we've seen an NMC South team

3044
02:08:33,520 --> 02:08:35,240
Speaker 2: make the team with the sub five hundred record. That

3045
02:08:35,280 --> 02:08:38,280
Speaker 2: has happened multiple times. Panthers did it, I think again.

3046
02:08:38,440 --> 02:08:40,080
Speaker 2: I think they're seven to nine when they got in

3047
02:08:41,400 --> 02:08:44,480
Speaker 2: years ago too, and then they won around they did

3048
02:08:44,600 --> 02:08:49,480
Speaker 2: absolutely right. The San Francisco forty nine ers, they are

3049
02:08:49,600 --> 02:08:54,600
Speaker 2: twelve and five. If they they will looks like will

3050
02:08:54,680 --> 02:08:57,880
Speaker 2: be the five seed. If the Rams lose, they will

3051
02:08:57,920 --> 02:09:00,640
Speaker 2: be the sixth seed. They're down right now though.

3052
02:09:00,480 --> 02:09:03,200
Speaker 1: They are. Oh, they just took the lead. They just

3053
02:09:03,240 --> 02:09:04,000
Speaker 1: took the lead, all right.

3054
02:09:04,080 --> 02:09:06,440
Speaker 2: So if the Rams hold on and win, they will

3055
02:09:06,560 --> 02:09:08,880
Speaker 2: pop up to the fifth seed and the Niners will

3056
02:09:08,960 --> 02:09:11,480
Speaker 2: drop down to the sixth seed in that scenario, So

3057
02:09:11,680 --> 02:09:13,520
Speaker 2: keep an eye on that. And the Packers are locked

3058
02:09:13,560 --> 02:09:16,000
Speaker 2: in to the seventh seed. They lost, they arrested all

3059
02:09:16,000 --> 02:09:18,200
Speaker 2: their guys. They're nine to seventy one. So that's what

3060
02:09:18,280 --> 02:09:20,920
Speaker 2: the playoff situation looks like right now in the National

3061
02:09:20,960 --> 02:09:23,600
Speaker 2: Football League in terms of the Giants in their draft position,

3062
02:09:23,960 --> 02:09:27,320
Speaker 2: let me hit that for you two again. It's gonna

3063
02:09:27,360 --> 02:09:30,360
Speaker 2: depend on what's going on with these late games.

3064
02:09:30,800 --> 02:09:35,440
Speaker 1: Right now. The Washington Commanders are still up on the

3065
02:09:35,520 --> 02:09:36,640
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles.

3066
02:09:36,920 --> 02:09:37,600
Speaker 5: They went down.

3067
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Speaker 2: Oh, they just went down. The Eagles just scored in

3068
02:09:39,400 --> 02:09:41,800
Speaker 2: that game. Okay, the Eagles up fourteen to ten. If

3069
02:09:41,880 --> 02:09:45,240
Speaker 2: the Eagles end up winning that game and the Washington

3070
02:09:45,320 --> 02:09:49,720
Speaker 2: Commanders end up losing, the Commanders will select ahead of

3071
02:09:49,800 --> 02:09:51,280
Speaker 2: the Giants at number five.

3072
02:09:51,760 --> 02:09:53,360
Speaker 1: The Cardinals another team to watch.

3073
02:09:53,680 --> 02:09:57,440
Speaker 2: If they win that game, they would slide behind the Giants,

3074
02:09:58,000 --> 02:10:00,360
Speaker 2: and the Giants would then select five instead of six.

3075
02:10:00,680 --> 02:10:05,920
Speaker 2: If the Jets, Cardinals, and Washington Commanders all lose, the Giants.

3076
02:10:05,640 --> 02:10:06,600
Speaker 1: Will have the sixth pick.

3077
02:10:06,880 --> 02:10:08,600
Speaker 2: If any of those teams lose, and the Jets are

3078
02:10:08,600 --> 02:10:10,200
Speaker 2: not gonna be one of those teams right the record,

3079
02:10:10,280 --> 02:10:12,920
Speaker 2: Jets are gonna be the third pick, so second pick. Actually,

3080
02:10:12,960 --> 02:10:14,480
Speaker 2: if they lose, they'll move ahead of the Titans. So

3081
02:10:14,720 --> 02:10:18,840
Speaker 2: it's basically the Cardinals, the Giants, and the Commanders that'll

3082
02:10:18,880 --> 02:10:21,960
Speaker 2: be picking four, five, and six. The Giants will be

3083
02:10:22,160 --> 02:10:26,600
Speaker 2: six if both the Cardinals and the Commanders lose. If

3084
02:10:26,640 --> 02:10:28,880
Speaker 2: one of those teams win or both, that pushes the

3085
02:10:28,960 --> 02:10:31,840
Speaker 2: Giants up one or two spots to the four or

3086
02:10:31,920 --> 02:10:33,720
Speaker 2: five spots in the NFL draft.

3087
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Speaker 1: All right, I think we have those logistics covered. Guys.

3088
02:10:36,520 --> 02:10:39,360
Speaker 2: Final thoughts before we say goodbye, either on this season

3089
02:10:39,720 --> 02:10:42,000
Speaker 2: the offseason. However you want to attack a Paul, Let's

3090
02:10:42,000 --> 02:10:43,320
Speaker 2: go to U first, and then we'll close with teak

3091
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Speaker 2: Well johnn.

3092
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Speaker 1: The only thing I want to say is, for all

3093
02:10:45,680 --> 02:10:46,920
Speaker 1: these years that I've been doing.

3094
02:10:46,800 --> 02:10:49,080
Speaker 22: This thing, and I see that the Giants only have

3095
02:10:49,200 --> 02:10:51,440
Speaker 22: four wins to end the season, I feel a lot

3096
02:10:51,520 --> 02:10:54,400
Speaker 22: better now than any of those other seasons where the

3097
02:10:54,480 --> 02:10:56,920
Speaker 22: Giants were so many games under five hundred.

3098
02:10:56,680 --> 02:10:59,600
Speaker 1: At the close of the schedule. This team does have

3099
02:11:00,120 --> 02:11:01,240
Speaker 1: so much to offer.

3100
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Speaker 22: But as I said during the pregame show, the one

3101
02:11:03,800 --> 02:11:06,640
Speaker 22: thing that has to happen no matter who they name

3102
02:11:06,720 --> 02:11:07,200
Speaker 22: is the coach.

3103
02:11:07,440 --> 02:11:09,320
Speaker 1: And no matter who the coordinators and the.

3104
02:11:09,320 --> 02:11:13,520
Speaker 22: Staff members are, this team needs its best players to

3105
02:11:13,680 --> 02:11:17,200
Speaker 22: play up to their potential. Most of those guys this

3106
02:11:17,440 --> 02:11:19,920
Speaker 22: season did not do that. I don't care how it

3107
02:11:20,040 --> 02:11:23,640
Speaker 22: gets done. If that does not happen, the Giants will

3108
02:11:23,680 --> 02:11:24,640
Speaker 22: not progress next year.

3109
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Speaker 1: I agree with that.

3110
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Speaker 2: And the other thing I'll add to you need the

3111
02:11:27,440 --> 02:11:29,600
Speaker 2: guys on your rookie contracts and continue to get no

3112
02:11:29,720 --> 02:11:32,360
Speaker 2: question right, the Drew Phillips, the Tyler Nubin, the John

3113
02:11:32,400 --> 02:11:35,440
Speaker 2: Michael Schmidz. I'll even throw and again through his fourth year,

3114
02:11:35,720 --> 02:11:37,760
Speaker 2: Deontay Banks into the MIxS all the guys that they've

3115
02:11:37,840 --> 02:11:39,960
Speaker 2: drafted over the past three or four years at our

3116
02:11:40,080 --> 02:11:43,040
Speaker 2: rookie deals. They need to continue to improve and get

3117
02:11:43,120 --> 02:11:45,280
Speaker 2: better and develop. And if you do that, combine it

3118
02:11:45,360 --> 02:11:48,160
Speaker 2: with that and look, this coaching hire is super important.

3119
02:11:48,160 --> 02:11:51,400
Speaker 2: And Richie made a point on his phone call where

3120
02:11:51,400 --> 02:11:52,560
Speaker 2: I want a defensive head coach.

3121
02:11:52,920 --> 02:11:54,240
Speaker 1: Look, guys, you need both.

3122
02:11:54,680 --> 02:11:54,800
Speaker 7: Right.

3123
02:11:54,880 --> 02:11:56,480
Speaker 2: If you get a great offensive coach and he hires

3124
02:11:56,480 --> 02:11:59,240
Speaker 2: a bad defensive coordinator, you're not going enough games. If

3125
02:11:59,280 --> 02:12:01,760
Speaker 2: you hire a defense coach, how's the bad offensive coordinator,

3126
02:12:01,880 --> 02:12:04,400
Speaker 2: You're not gonna win enough games. So however, whatever head

3127
02:12:04,440 --> 02:12:07,560
Speaker 2: coach you hire, if he's a special teams coach, you

3128
02:12:07,760 --> 02:12:09,840
Speaker 2: have to make sure you hire a good coach to

3129
02:12:09,960 --> 02:12:12,000
Speaker 2: run the offense, a good coach to run the defense.

3130
02:12:12,440 --> 02:12:15,560
Speaker 1: And that's gonna be hugely important in developing this team.

3131
02:12:15,600 --> 02:12:17,560
Speaker 2: I do think there's enough talent on both sides of

3132
02:12:17,600 --> 02:12:21,120
Speaker 2: the ball for this sn to be a relevant playoff

3133
02:12:21,240 --> 02:12:24,120
Speaker 2: contender at the end of the season. And you know,

3134
02:12:24,320 --> 02:12:27,520
Speaker 2: when we're I'm going through all the logistics in December

3135
02:12:27,640 --> 02:12:30,839
Speaker 2: for who's gonna make the playoffs and scenarios. The Giants

3136
02:12:31,360 --> 02:12:35,840
Speaker 2: have enough players to be involved in that conversation at

3137
02:12:35,880 --> 02:12:38,360
Speaker 2: some point in December. Yeah, if they play well enough

3138
02:12:38,400 --> 02:12:39,880
Speaker 2: and get the coaching, that's my final I think.

3139
02:12:39,960 --> 02:12:42,160
Speaker 3: I think it needs to get granular. I talked about

3140
02:12:42,200 --> 02:12:45,040
Speaker 3: this with Tom Coffin when he came in, and he,

3141
02:12:45,360 --> 02:12:48,200
Speaker 3: you know, he I think he specifically targeted guys who

3142
02:12:48,240 --> 02:12:51,080
Speaker 3: he knew he needed to turn into players get more

3143
02:12:51,120 --> 02:12:51,360
Speaker 3: out of.

3144
02:12:51,480 --> 02:12:52,320
Speaker 5: And I was one of them.

3145
02:12:52,720 --> 02:12:55,080
Speaker 3: Had some good years and they're Jim Fossil, but I

3146
02:12:55,120 --> 02:12:57,960
Speaker 3: became a really great player under Tom Kauflin. So whoever

3147
02:12:58,120 --> 02:13:00,520
Speaker 3: the new head coach is, it's got to be individual

3148
02:13:00,600 --> 02:13:03,280
Speaker 3: and and I learned a lot from calling games and

3149
02:13:03,360 --> 02:13:05,840
Speaker 3: having a chance to talk to head coaches over the

3150
02:13:05,920 --> 02:13:08,600
Speaker 3: last six years prior to this season. And one that

3151
02:13:08,680 --> 02:13:11,839
Speaker 3: impressed me a lot was Dan Quinn down in Washington.

3152
02:13:11,920 --> 02:13:14,240
Speaker 3: And you ask why, and it was obviously because Jade

3153
02:13:14,320 --> 02:13:17,360
Speaker 3: Daniels turned into a really good Rookie of the Year quarterback.

3154
02:13:17,400 --> 02:13:19,480
Speaker 3: He took him to the NFC Championship game. But it

3155
02:13:19,600 --> 02:13:22,560
Speaker 3: was less about what happened on the Sunday afternoons during

3156
02:13:22,600 --> 02:13:25,920
Speaker 3: the football season. It was how he individually got all

3157
02:13:25,960 --> 02:13:27,760
Speaker 3: of those guys. I think they actually hired a staff

3158
02:13:27,840 --> 02:13:32,160
Speaker 3: position to professionally develop everybody in that organization. So you

3159
02:13:32,240 --> 02:13:33,960
Speaker 3: go to the offensive coordinator said what do you want

3160
02:13:33,960 --> 02:13:35,640
Speaker 3: to get better at? You go to the defensive coordinator,

3161
02:13:35,680 --> 02:13:37,040
Speaker 3: what do you want to get better at? You go

3162
02:13:37,160 --> 02:13:39,600
Speaker 3: to the players, what do you want to get better at?

3163
02:13:39,800 --> 02:13:43,440
Speaker 3: And when you create that individual accountability for each individual,

3164
02:13:43,520 --> 02:13:46,480
Speaker 3: so each individual is deciding what I need to do

3165
02:13:46,600 --> 02:13:51,400
Speaker 3: better to be great, it incentivizes you to create a

3166
02:13:51,480 --> 02:13:54,360
Speaker 3: plan and to focus on that plan. So the Giants

3167
02:13:54,400 --> 02:13:57,480
Speaker 3: are going into the offseason, it is it's the first

3168
02:13:57,520 --> 02:13:59,920
Speaker 3: week of January. Take a month month and a half

3169
02:14:00,120 --> 02:14:02,440
Speaker 3: off whatever it is, but then get back to work

3170
02:14:02,600 --> 02:14:06,400
Speaker 3: executing that plan that is identified for each individual here.

3171
02:14:06,480 --> 02:14:08,440
Speaker 5: And that's with the Tyrone Tracy's of the world.

3172
02:14:08,480 --> 02:14:11,200
Speaker 3: That's the Jackson Darts, Brian Burns out do Carter even

3173
02:14:11,240 --> 02:14:14,480
Speaker 3: more specifically, have a plan on how you're going to

3174
02:14:14,560 --> 02:14:17,240
Speaker 3: go into the twenty twenty sixth season. And it's amazing

3175
02:14:17,560 --> 02:14:19,800
Speaker 3: when you have a plan and you follow it how

3176
02:14:19,880 --> 02:14:20,680
Speaker 3: success finds you.

3177
02:14:20,920 --> 02:14:22,240
Speaker 2: And I'll just leave it with this, But none of

3178
02:14:22,320 --> 02:14:24,000
Speaker 2: us mentioned Jackson Dart in or answer, and I feel

3179
02:14:24,000 --> 02:14:24,680
Speaker 2: like one of us should.

3180
02:14:25,480 --> 02:14:27,080
Speaker 1: He's kind of important as well.

3181
02:14:27,600 --> 02:14:29,520
Speaker 5: I think we know where we are whe Jackson's art.

3182
02:14:29,600 --> 02:14:33,520
Speaker 3: He said it, Yeah, it is unacceptable to have that

3183
02:14:33,680 --> 02:14:36,520
Speaker 3: type of season going forward. And I think that leadership

3184
02:14:36,640 --> 02:14:39,160
Speaker 3: is something that is so important for a guy who

3185
02:14:39,320 --> 02:14:41,120
Speaker 3: is going to be the face of this world, which,

3186
02:14:41,160 --> 02:14:41,400
Speaker 3: by the.

3187
02:14:41,400 --> 02:14:44,080
Speaker 22: Way, shows you that the losing streak and some of

3188
02:14:44,160 --> 02:14:46,520
Speaker 22: the troubles that this team had this year did not

3189
02:14:46,720 --> 02:14:49,040
Speaker 22: scar him as much as people fear.

3190
02:14:48,920 --> 02:14:52,919
Speaker 2: And a promising rookie year not a finished product. Continue

3191
02:14:52,960 --> 02:14:55,160
Speaker 2: to develop, improve on the parts of the game that

3192
02:14:55,320 --> 02:14:59,000
Speaker 2: need improvement, and all rookie quarterbacks need to improve every year,

3193
02:14:59,440 --> 02:15:01,360
Speaker 2: doesn't matter what you show in your rookie year. And

3194
02:15:01,480 --> 02:15:04,160
Speaker 2: obviously his development and continuing to grow into somebody that

3195
02:15:04,520 --> 02:15:07,880
Speaker 2: can be a franchise quarterback is essential for this organization

3196
02:15:08,320 --> 02:15:10,520
Speaker 2: moving forward, because you don't just need a head coach.

3197
02:15:11,080 --> 02:15:13,200
Speaker 2: You need a head coach and you need a quarterback,

3198
02:15:13,320 --> 02:15:14,920
Speaker 2: right and those are the two pieces of the formula

3199
02:15:15,040 --> 02:15:17,280
Speaker 2: that are must have if you want to have long

3200
02:15:17,400 --> 02:15:20,240
Speaker 2: term success in the National Football LEAGEIKI, It's been a pleasure, man,

3201
02:15:20,600 --> 02:15:22,080
Speaker 2: It's so much fun. It's been great working with you

3202
02:15:22,160 --> 02:15:24,080
Speaker 2: this year. Paul, always a pleasure, great job in the

3203
02:15:24,120 --> 02:15:24,680
Speaker 2: locker room.

3204
02:15:24,680 --> 02:15:25,240
Speaker 1: All year as well.

3205
02:15:25,360 --> 02:15:27,040
Speaker 2: Been a fun season, guys, and I want to make

3206
02:15:27,080 --> 02:15:29,880
Speaker 2: sure we thank all of the guys and girls that

3207
02:15:29,960 --> 02:15:32,400
Speaker 2: have been ladies that have helped us throughout the year

3208
02:15:32,680 --> 02:15:34,360
Speaker 2: in terms of getting us on the air and making

3209
02:15:34,400 --> 02:15:35,960
Speaker 2: this program fantastic.

3210
02:15:36,280 --> 02:15:37,720
Speaker 1: Connor Green back in the studio.

3211
02:15:38,720 --> 02:15:41,200
Speaker 2: You don't hear his voice, but he plays all the audio,

3212
02:15:41,400 --> 02:15:43,520
Speaker 2: He organizes everything, He gets us in the out of breaks,

3213
02:15:43,520 --> 02:15:45,800
Speaker 2: he plays all the spots. He does a great job

3214
02:15:46,080 --> 02:15:48,200
Speaker 2: back at our studios in WFM. We thank Connor for

3215
02:15:48,280 --> 02:15:51,760
Speaker 2: his hard work this year. Chris Majkowski, who always comes

3216
02:15:51,840 --> 02:15:54,240
Speaker 2: over from his baseball duties in October, does a great

3217
02:15:54,320 --> 02:15:57,640
Speaker 2: job making us sound better than we should. Griffin Ward,

3218
02:15:57,640 --> 02:16:00,400
Speaker 2: who steps in from Madge on the board before four match,

3219
02:16:00,480 --> 02:16:02,160
Speaker 2: comes over and does a great job with Howard on

3220
02:16:02,240 --> 02:16:04,520
Speaker 2: the sideline. He has to carry like three blankets with

3221
02:16:04,600 --> 02:16:06,600
Speaker 2: him to keep Howard warm during the year. I'm not

3222
02:16:06,640 --> 02:16:09,320
Speaker 2: sure if people realize that, but he does. Matt Stovski

3223
02:16:09,400 --> 02:16:12,080
Speaker 2: does a little bit of everything, sideline stats, you name it,

3224
02:16:12,520 --> 02:16:13,600
Speaker 2: does a great job whatever you need.

3225
02:16:13,640 --> 02:16:16,800
Speaker 1: Matt does a fantastic job. We thank the Popa family.

3226
02:16:16,640 --> 02:16:20,440
Speaker 2: Who assists with these stats and spotting duties, Nick and Will,

3227
02:16:20,560 --> 02:16:22,920
Speaker 2: Jim Stamos who helps as a spotter as well. A

3228
02:16:22,960 --> 02:16:27,240
Speaker 2: Lexisluro who does a fantastic job keeping me on track

3229
02:16:27,720 --> 02:16:30,080
Speaker 2: and keeping me on time on the pre and post

3230
02:16:30,120 --> 02:16:32,400
Speaker 2: game show and making sure that we get in everything

3231
02:16:32,440 --> 02:16:32,920
Speaker 2: we need to get in.

3232
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Speaker 1: She does a fantastic job.

3233
02:16:34,560 --> 02:16:37,720
Speaker 2: Pete Hoffman, who's in the chair as the producer, does

3234
02:16:37,760 --> 02:16:41,560
Speaker 2: a great job, travels, keeps everything during the game going

3235
02:16:41,600 --> 02:16:43,240
Speaker 2: the way it needs to go. And then all the

3236
02:16:43,280 --> 02:16:45,040
Speaker 2: guys back at FN who could all the highlights that

3237
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Speaker 2: that run tape. John Schwybacker, who's been there a long time,

3238
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Speaker 2: schwe's the primary, but there's a lot of other you know,

3239
02:16:51,040 --> 02:16:53,320
Speaker 2: guys and ladies that do that. And if I didn't

3240
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Speaker 2: mention your name, I apologize.

3241
02:16:54,600 --> 02:16:57,800
Speaker 5: But we were miss if we didn't mention you. Obviously

3242
02:16:58,080 --> 02:16:58,959
Speaker 5: you put this all together.

3243
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Speaker 1: Stop.

3244
02:16:59,360 --> 02:17:01,720
Speaker 5: Please you help us do things the right way.

3245
02:17:01,800 --> 02:17:04,480
Speaker 3: And we have a long rundown and a long process

3246
02:17:04,560 --> 02:17:07,760
Speaker 3: because we're on the air for a lot of hours pregame, halftime,

3247
02:17:07,920 --> 02:17:10,040
Speaker 3: and then postgame, and a lot of that's because of

3248
02:17:10,120 --> 02:17:10,640
Speaker 3: your direction.

3249
02:17:10,760 --> 02:17:12,000
Speaker 5: So thank you for being a great leader.

3250
02:17:12,040 --> 02:17:14,640
Speaker 22: No, I appreciate the programming that we do here is

3251
02:17:14,959 --> 02:17:18,080
Speaker 22: just unbelievable considering what it was several years ago when

3252
02:17:18,120 --> 02:17:20,000
Speaker 22: John's been the driving force behind all that.

3253
02:17:20,200 --> 02:17:21,680
Speaker 1: Well, we're on too many hours. If he asked the

3254
02:17:21,720 --> 02:17:22,959
Speaker 1: guys that are waiting to pack up the.

3255
02:17:23,000 --> 02:17:24,760
Speaker 2: Year in the back of the booths, so I better

3256
02:17:24,800 --> 02:17:27,000
Speaker 2: wrap things up before they come and pull me out

3257
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Speaker 2: of here.

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Speaker 2: As Paul mentioned, we have continuing coverage of the Giants.

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Speaker 2: You can listen to teaking at this brand new time

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Speaker 2: starting on Monday on Wfan that's from ten to two

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Speaker 2: every day with Evan Roberts.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you do that, and of course on Giants

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Speaker 2: Looking for me dig you don't forget Sean Moravie wed

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Speaker 2: Sean Marash as well shawing my coast on Big.

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Speaker 1: Bookoobub Live Saturday last year.

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Speaker 2: You're right, Seawan is in the mixes well, Big Giant

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Speaker 2: Fan and of course on Giants dot Com the Giants

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Speaker 2: Moblat Giants YouTube channel.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you check it out.

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Speaker 2: Big Book Kickoff Live is live every single day on

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Speaker 2: the week during the week Monday through Friday in the

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Speaker 2: off season at twelve thirty.

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Speaker 1: Check us out. You of our podcast network.

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Speaker 2: You can find it on your favorite podcast platform, The

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Speaker 2: Giantshuttle Podcast. You have Draft season, our Draft Podcast, her playbook,

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Speaker 2: Popper's Perspective, Giants Media Pass. Go find it on your

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Speaker 2: favorite podcast platform, Giants dot com, Giants app, and on

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Speaker 2: the Giants YouTube channel. I thanked everybody, but the most

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Speaker 2: important people I need to thank are the fans out

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Speaker 2: there for joining us all year long, listening to our

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Speaker 2: broadcast and calling us and engaging with us and having

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Speaker 2: fantastic conversations with us on this postgame show all year round.

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Speaker 1: We thank you for that. And of course I should

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Speaker 1: mention Bob Popacarl Banks and Howro Crow to do.

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Speaker 2: A great job calling our games right here on the

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Speaker 2: fan and the Giants Radio network all year long.

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Speaker 1: Thank you everybody for being with us.

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Speaker 2: Please join us on our Giants coverage I just mentioned

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Speaker 2: on Giants dot Com, Giants Apping, the Giants YouTube channel. Otherwise,

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Speaker 2: we will see you next summer for twenty twenty six

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Speaker 2: the New York Football Giants Holton.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot better than twenty twenty five. We'll see

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Speaker 1: it then, have a great offseason, everybody.

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