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Speaker 1: Welcome back to this episode of Debo and Joe. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host James Deebo Harrison, and I'm here with my.

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Speaker 2: Co host, Joe Hayden.

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Speaker 1: Please make sure you like and subscribe and download wherever

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Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. How you doing today, Joe.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great, brother Deebo, great day, great Monday, locked

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Speaker 3: in travel day. I'm reading very excited, happy to get

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Speaker 3: out to us. Sad friend a little later on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, me too, man, I ain't even like you

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Speaker 1: knew what he man. My flight got delayed, No, yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna miss a connect. I gotta figure out

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Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do with my flight. I ain't gonna

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Speaker 1: like you, so I gotta, I gotta. I gotta get

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Speaker 1: that situated once we you know, once we get off

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Speaker 3: But I'm definitely because I thought it was supposed to

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Speaker 3: be laying at the same time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I got They delayed like like an hour

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Speaker 1: and a half, two hours or something like that. So

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Speaker 1: you made to where my connect was like five minutes

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Speaker 1: or ten minutes.

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Speaker 2: You know that ain't happening. They know they gotta change.

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Speaker 3: They gotta transfer your bags to d BO. So we

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Speaker 3: don't need to lose. You need a good hour for show.

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Speaker 3: In between a.

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Speaker 2: Good hour at least solid. You might need an hour

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Speaker 2: and a half. Yeah, no, for sure, for sure, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, bruh, yesterday was uh, it was uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: a historic day. It was uh, the anniversary of what

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Speaker 1: I would like to call and you know, most people

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Speaker 1: that actually have any kind of you know, football understanding knowledge.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we call the greatest play ever in Super Bowl history.

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Speaker 3: They were second you and saying that, and one one

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Speaker 3: of the people being me, your co host, I was

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Speaker 3: second that also.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, that would be uh that super Bowl

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Speaker 2: run act.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, them Pittsburgh stealers that two thousand and eight piscebug

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Speaker 4: still is defense author yourself?

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Speaker 2: Looking at James Harrison. Yes, we're gonna call it the

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Speaker 2: immaculate interception.

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Speaker 1: Okay, funny yard to the house, knock him down. Ain't

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Speaker 1: never been done, ain't been done again. If I'm hoping it, don't.

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Speaker 2: Never get done again. For sure, Keep that one, my mother. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's what I'm gonna do. I don't want my record broken.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, they recommended to be broken, but not

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Speaker 1: that one.

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Speaker 2: I don't want that one broke.

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Speaker 1: Okay, even like to you, I was a little upset

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Speaker 1: when I seen uh uh oh uh Jacoby Rest of

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Speaker 1: Soul from the Ravens, when he one hundred and eight

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Speaker 1: out of the hundred and nine.

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Speaker 3: From Yes Yes going to kickoffs, Like, well, I still

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Speaker 3: got the longest, I still got the.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes Yes. I'm with you, d Bo,

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, Hey Red.

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Speaker 3: They said that record is meant to have been broken,

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Speaker 3: but selfishly I feel you. I don't want nobody to

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Speaker 3: break in my record, like that's my record, and then

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Speaker 3: when they take it away, that's how that keeps you

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Speaker 3: remember forever. You have one hundred yard interception return in

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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, never forgotten until somebody goes one on

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Speaker 3: one and then they'll still remember.

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Speaker 2: You want to see it because I like I like listen.

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Speaker 2: I like seeing history. I like seeing history.

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Speaker 1: You gotta look at when TJ broke the record for

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Speaker 1: the Stillers broke my record.

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Speaker 2: I was there. I like seeing history. No, for sure,

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Speaker 2: I do too, you know I do.

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Speaker 1: Especially when you know when it's your young boys. You know,

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Speaker 1: if it's somebody you know, it's go be broken.

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Speaker 3: At least let it be a see somebody I know,

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Speaker 3: let it be a still, let it be the homie.

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Speaker 2: Let no question.

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Speaker 1: I know I would say you would say the same thing, like,

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Speaker 1: let it be a Browns player.

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Speaker 2: But you know, Browns into the super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: It's like see, no, no, see, there you go, there you go,

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Speaker 3: saying that, and I got I got a good Denzel. Look,

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Speaker 3: Denzel Ward just went to the Pro Bowl for the

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Speaker 3: most time. Look I hear you. Yeah, you gotta get

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Speaker 3: to the super Bowl to make super Bowl stats. I

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Speaker 3: understand that debo, but it's not good players false that

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Speaker 3: we weren't in the position.

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Speaker 2: So don't be don't be sit So don't be trying

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Speaker 3: We're giving you your moment. And there you go trying

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Speaker 3: to that ball. Every time.

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Speaker 2: I was just I was trying to relate. No, no, no,

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Speaker 2: don't don't even try to but the shade Joe.

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Speaker 1: Then I realized it wasn't relatable. You know how me,

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Speaker 1: I speak out loud, you know, I got I gotta,

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Be quick to let her listen, yes, because you're going

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Speaker 3: to speak because you're quick to disrespect and you don't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like I said yesterday, man, you know Book of James.

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Speaker 1: Man. You know last week it was hey to listen, slow,

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Speaker 1: to speak slow, And that wasn't even anger. I was

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Speaker 1: just I was I was listening, but I was just

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Speaker 1: I was too quick. I was too quick to speak,

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Speaker 1: and I just I let something out that was insensitive,

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Speaker 1: stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: You stop saying that, bro, It's good the clowns players

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Speaker 2: clean my braces Joe Brown's players. I'm sorry. Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: your speeches hard to say.

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Speaker 3: Your bees is and your bees do get a little anything.

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Speaker 1: That press like like that. See, I'm spitting everywhere too.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations Debo on your on your interception, your ninety n

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Speaker 3: You think you think you're very kindly Joe, Joe's exhausted after,

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Speaker 3: but you you did your thing a couple of years.

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Speaker 1: Man, that go be twenty years away. That's crazy. Twenty

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Speaker 1: years lives flies when you having fun. Come on, you've been,

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Speaker 1: you've been, you ain't had fun. But anyway, let's get

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: Listen, it looked like all ten of these vacancies for

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Speaker 2: The last one. They said they expected.

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Speaker 1: The Raiders to hire Kobiak for the coach over there

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Speaker 2: What do you What do you think of that?

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Speaker 1: Highering?

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Speaker 2: You like? You like that move? You don't like that?

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Speaker 2: I do? I do like that move.

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Speaker 3: I think Koubiak has been doing a really good job,

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Speaker 3: the Seattle's offense, I think it's gonna be good for them.

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Speaker 3: I'm just looking at the Raiders though, Bro, if I'm

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Speaker 3: just being honest, they're gonna have to figure it out

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Speaker 3: some way. They're gonna have to stick to a coach,

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like it was Josh manel

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Speaker 3: and gave Pete Carroll. That's what that's That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: But I hope they gave Pete Carroll sposted have been

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Speaker 3: Man man a high year. But they gave that man

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Speaker 3: a year and a half. They gave Josh McDaniel year

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Speaker 3: be able to start something for They're gonna they got

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Speaker 3: a lot of money too. Like that's what I'm looking

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Speaker 3: at too with free agency. Hopefully they're gonna get on

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Speaker 3: your brands to be able to do that thing.

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Speaker 2: That cap.

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Speaker 1: What they looking like over there on that on that

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Speaker 2: Anyway, but they looking high.

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Speaker 3: They looking like this, it says projected to be the

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Speaker 1: So matter of fact, let's run through these Let's hold on,

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Speaker 1: let's run through this real quick, okay.

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Speaker 2: Because that cap that bread coming up.

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Speaker 3: So you people, if you can manipulate the cap, if

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Speaker 3: you get your good GM, you can move money around,

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Speaker 3: bringing good pieces, the pieces that are balling make their

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Speaker 2: I'm always with that.

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Speaker 3: So if they give him a chance to really open

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Speaker 3: up that cap, bring some players in, then it might

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to give him time, though. You gotta

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Speaker 1: got me, are you can't? You can't. Hell, look at

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Speaker 1: the Atlanta matter of fact, right there, Kevin Stefanski, he

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Speaker 1: got the he got the Atlanta job, and y'all got

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Speaker 1: rid of raheem like right as he was building something

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Speaker 1: that don't that don't make sense to me, Like.

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Speaker 2: Why would you let him go? Like your defense is

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Speaker 1: And then you go get another man that did nothing

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Speaker 2: He couldn't he couldn't.

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Speaker 1: Get nothing together over there, and you hire him, but

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Speaker 1: you get rid of another coach that they're building something

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Speaker 1: like like, I don't understand that. What do you think

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Speaker 1: of that hired for Atlanta with Stefanski?

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Speaker 3: Like you said, I mean cap, they might have cap,

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Speaker 3: how much they may got cap. I think I'm not

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Speaker 3: Matt Ryan might know something. I think that Stefanski knows.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you gotta come in there, you gotta got

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Speaker 3: for me. It was a miss for me. I like

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Speaker 3: Matt Ryan though, and I think he's I think he

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Speaker 3: blast it because Sefanski did do he did bring the

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Speaker 3: Browns to the playoffs. They did win, But I'm just

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Speaker 3: saying I don't think he liked what they was going

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking when he's.

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Speaker 3: Talking to Matt Ryan, he's gonna have a little bit

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Speaker 3: and it's going to be on Stefanski to make something shape.

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Speaker 2: So as far as the city of Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: Not rocking with it, as far as the vibes, as

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Speaker 3: far as how he did Shador, I can understand that completely.

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Speaker 3: But I just don't want to bash Matt Ryan because

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's a dumb person. I don't think

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Speaker 3: he would do that if he didn't have a plan.

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Speaker 3: So we're gonna have to see quickly. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if that was the best move for Atlanta, but I

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Speaker 3: don't think I just don't think Matt Ryan is a

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Speaker 3: is a dummy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how many years do you think he gonna get there?

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Speaker 3: You know, it's a They're not playing around with these

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Speaker 3: the owner is going willing to be ready to like, no,

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Speaker 3: if it's not working, I'm going to fire him because

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Speaker 3: you're going to continue to have to pay these coaches

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Speaker 3: Like Vegas, they don't care, They're paying eight coaches. There

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Speaker 3: might be owners that are like this, you know what,

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Speaker 3: bump that I don't care if he's not that.

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Speaker 2: Good, We're going to give him a little bit more

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, works out, Everything just works.

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Speaker 2: A high draft pick. So you better go get you

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Speaker 3: You need some pieces, you know what I'm saying. But

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Speaker 3: What are we looking like? Do I have my quarterback

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Speaker 2: And then move on after that?

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Speaker 3: Like poly because maybe you know how these dudes are.

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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying? Like is that his guy? You

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Speaker 3: know how with these gms and these dudes are when

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Speaker 3: I'm going down with Skofski because me and him on

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Speaker 3: Like Rahiem, I see his vision, not my vision.

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Speaker 3: Okay, if I'm gonna be here, I'm Matt Ryan. I'm

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Speaker 3: And if it doesn't work, now we know where to

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. We like you had Buddy

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Speaker 3: Okay, now you got Stefanski here, so now it just

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Speaker 3: gives us better things. Oh we know who it is.

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Speaker 3: That wasn't you know what I'm saying. That's not that

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Speaker 3: was your decision. You moved on from what was actually working.

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Speaker 3: People were feeling it, but you wanted to go there

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Speaker 2: You know, all the live show guys for Shure, the

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Speaker 1: We got Joe, we got said Joe Brady over here

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Speaker 2: You fired like him him. He don't realize that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you donet got the job, but you got about

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Speaker 1: You got two years max.

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Speaker 2: The way they did. Mcgerrmant. Oh, yes, you might have one.

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Speaker 2: we don't want more games, we want don't mess around

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Speaker 2: to jobs might be going too. He might he might

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Speaker 3: Ain't gonna lie because you for show for show man

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Speaker 1: Some gotta give Jesse Minner with the Ravens. How long

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Speaker 3: You man, and I love that. You know how they

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Speaker 3: own the Rocks. You heard what he said, Yeah, what

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Speaker 3: he said about Lamar. You know, decisionized there, So there's

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Speaker 3: no gray. He's gonna let you know. I want to

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Speaker 3: everybody know how long he got Ask him, Hey, I'm yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's all they gotta do do straight up?

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Speaker 2: How long buddy got here by this?

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Speaker 3: Uh, he'll tell you, man, two and a half, how

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Speaker 2: You know, he's gonna tell you how I feel.

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Speaker 1: Give scenario. He's gonna answer, WI FI. Don't make the playoffs. Oh,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be up out of here. Uh as soon

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Speaker 1: as the game, he's gonna have to go ahead and

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Speaker 1: find a flight somewhere else.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna have a different flight home than the team.

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Speaker 1: No question, John Hardball Jet, I mean the Giants, that's easy, Yes, Love,

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Speaker 2: What is it? The Dolphins? Jeff Halfley?

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Speaker 3: That one my good man, Jeff half That was my

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Speaker 3: my dB coach for the Yeah, we're gonna we're going

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Speaker 3: to see. We're going to see. Like you said, I

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Speaker 3: mean you ain't.

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Speaker 2: Putting it behind, Like, yeah, I feel like you go

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Speaker 2: go and do that. I think you're gonna do his thing.

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Speaker 2: I think you're gonna do his thing for sure, for sure.

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Speaker 2: But like you again, I don't.

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Speaker 1: How long you get who's there?

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: What what what's the cap skates looking like? What's the

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Speaker 2: I need to I need to go.

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Speaker 3: I need to figure that out before because I don't

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Speaker 3: know what they what kind of authority, what kind of

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Speaker 2: I don't known. Yeah, I guess it's true.

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Speaker 3: I like to know these these these are really good

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Speaker 3: things that we need to know, Debo, because from the

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, what moves? Was he able to make the talent?

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Speaker 3: All of that stuff? It's him in the GM, do

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I like to know that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Now, you you've made me want to know, you know,

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Speaker 2: when you know your whole opinion.

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Speaker 1: View show what they've done, they're in that I like

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Speaker 1: being in that position. So like uh slom Robert Robert

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Speaker 3: But got to They don't have a lot of talent,

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Speaker 3: so they got to have some capace.

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Speaker 2: Joe, that's amazing. Not that. Not not like that.

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Speaker 1: That's like me talking about the Browns like that was bad.

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Speaker 2: Like, come on, Joe slow.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, well, all right, you want to keep

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Speaker 3: it a being or not. No, if you're gonna, we're

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Speaker 3: gonna listen, Joe, what we're Okay, let'sten what.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, cam Ward could use some help over there.

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Speaker 3: There we go. Let me put it in a different way. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my man, d Line, they got see what get

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Speaker 1: what are you gonna get done? With his second with

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Speaker 3: Right, you know he's gonna Yes, We're gonna see his time.

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Speaker 3: They got they have they got a quarterback. So now

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Speaker 3: while he's on this rookie deal, mild do as much

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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I'm gonna tell you the best coach, the

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Speaker 1: best the best hired of the year. It's probably Mike mccarthney.

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Speaker 1: That's the best hired the year. I told you, I'm

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Speaker 1: all in, Joe.

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Speaker 2: I switched. I switched over, Joe. I told you I'm

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Speaker 2: all in. You going all in one hundred percent Michael,

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Speaker 1: I'm all I'm all in, baby. I told you he

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Speaker 1: got me. He got you, boy, you know you had me.

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Speaker 1: You know he's putting the staff together right now. I

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Speaker 1: he just he just picked him up. They're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: well he did this, did that with this, and he

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Speaker 1: about come on now, this was this is what I can't.

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Speaker 2: I can't.

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Speaker 3: I want the Raiders. I want I want him to

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Speaker 3: be successful for us. I know that he did less

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Speaker 3: looking like? What's the scheme? What is he teaching? What

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Speaker 3: just you know what I'm saying, Like, I got to

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Speaker 3: see it. I'm not going to be quick to judge.

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Speaker 2: Looks in line.

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Speaker 3: Because yeah, so I'm with you twoing to Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 2: I love it.

439
00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,760
Speaker 3: You put a name on it. So now we got

440
00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,439
Speaker 3: an I ain't want it for you. And now the

441
00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,679
Speaker 3: defensive coach, I'm not gonna just oh, no, I know him. No,

442
00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,679
Speaker 3: I don't know nothing too much about him. So we're

443
00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,600
Speaker 3: gonna give him a chance. Let's see what he can do.

444
00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,160
Speaker 3: But I know Mike McCarthy said, he's gonna be calling

445
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,000
Speaker 3: those offensive plays and that dreamt was looking junior varsity

446
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,040
Speaker 3: for the last couple of years, I've only seen a

447
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,840
Speaker 3: couple of little slants out rounds, just basics. No, give

448
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,360
Speaker 3: me some sauce, give me some flares.

449
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,480
Speaker 1: Something else, he said, Joe, here's something else, he said.

450
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,360
Speaker 1: He said, he's going to make sure he gets.

451
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,400
Speaker 2: Well. He said he was going to make sure that

452
00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,400
Speaker 2: the receivers the.

453
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 1: Knew what routes they would run in every area of

454
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,000
Speaker 1: that offense. So that meant at the one, the two,

455
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 1: and the three, because yes, we know U d z

456
00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,679
Speaker 1: X you can be like all of them. You're not

457
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 1: just stuck to one position because you don't know it.

458
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,679
Speaker 1: You're not just stuck to one position because maybe I

459
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:56,480
Speaker 1: don't know how to read a defense as a receiver,

460
00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 1: which is hard work to do when you got to

461
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 1: do that. We know that that sometimes happens in the

462
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 1: league where you have receivers they actually can't read what

463
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 1: they're looking at or don't know how to because they

464
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,720
Speaker 1: weren't taught it. And then they go out there and

465
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 1: it's put your quarterback at a disadvantage to where where

466
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 1: you should stop, you keep going, where you should keep going,

467
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 1: you stop, And now it looks like the quarterback is

468
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 1: throwing the ball into no man's land, but the receiver

469
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,160
Speaker 1: is not reading what he's getting and understanding, Hey you're

470
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,880
Speaker 1: in zone. Sit down, stop trying to run through. Hey

471
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 1: it's man, it's man. Keep going, like, don't just sit there,

472
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,840
Speaker 1: like get through if it's an adjustment to it that

473
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 1: you know it should be there. And then again instead

474
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 1: of me having you lined up at one all the time,

475
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 1: no I could put you at one, two or three.

476
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 1: You know the X Y, you know the the Z,

477
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:56,200
Speaker 1: that X and all that. So more knowledge, more understanding.

478
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,360
Speaker 1: They're going to teach you more. They're gonna learn more.

479
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,959
Speaker 1: He's gonna put put more on the play, give them more.

480
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,680
Speaker 1: As if they don't know what, he's going to teach

481
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 1: it to him.

482
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 2: So I like that.

483
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 3: I like that, And and that's where it starts wearing OTAs.

484
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 3: And that's where coaching comes in. When you get out

485
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 3: there and it's not just I'm better than you and

486
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 3: I know that I have to go.

487
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 2: Run this post.

488
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 3: When they call a play, the knowing what everyone has,

489
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 3: you can be able to tell each person, the tight end,

490
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 3: the other wide receiver, the slot, what I got to do.

491
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,199
Speaker 3: Just when you hear a play X go, you're just

492
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 3: listening for the X go. That's not knowing the nuances

493
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 3: of the defense and the offense. So preparation like coaches

494
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,360
Speaker 3: letting that stuff slide when you're in OTA's just the install.

495
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 3: Install is done differently. We're not leaving these meeting rooms

496
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 3: until you understand the concepts and what we're looking at,

497
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, So that takes a lot harder.

498
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 2: The meetings are a lot more.

499
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 3: I've been in some installs where it's kind of you're

500
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 3: just flying by. You're just trying to get through it

501
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,879
Speaker 3: because you got to get to practice. Nobody's learning it.

502
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 3: You don't know what it's just flying by. Okay, install here,

503
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 3: this is what we got, and you know your defense

504
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 3: because you know, just throwing in different defenses and this

505
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,199
Speaker 3: is you just know it's fire zone.

506
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 2: You don't know what kind of fire zone it is.

507
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 2: But I know I'm a corner.

508
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 3: I got third, I got this, I got fire zone first.

509
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 3: So you got to be able to really take your time,

510
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 3: sit down, learn it. Everybody knows what we're doing, why

511
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 3: we're doing it, teaching that stuff. So that's a big,

512
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 3: big part of the two. So I'm like, that's where

513
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 3: the execution part comes in.

514
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's also something else where, especially with like

515
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 1: when I was with the Stillers from Coastal Bows there

516
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 1: each year I couldn't learn how to do what I

517
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 1: was doing better. I knew what I was doing, So

518
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 1: from that point forward, I started spanning out, what is

519
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,159
Speaker 1: this person doing? What is that person doing? Yes, and

520
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 1: each person on that defense, you know we were together,

521
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 1: you know, five six, seven, eight, some guys ten plus years,

522
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 1: Like now I know what you're doing. Hell, I even

523
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: know what the end beside me doing. I know what

524
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 1: the nose is doing. I know what the other linebacker's doing.

525
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: I know what my corner's doing. I know my safety

526
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,880
Speaker 1: is doing. When I know that, and everybody else knows that,

527
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 1: when you don't have help or work in your zone,

528
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: you can now do a better job of helping your

529
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 1: partner to help cover their zone, which in turn makes

530
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: the defense better, which in turn makes everybody better. Like

531
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: you know for sure, if you know the in and

532
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: out of that defense from left to right. And I'm

533
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: sitting over here on the edge and I'm supposed to

534
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 1: be covering curl flat and they don't already went for

535
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 1: a strong away from you.

536
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 2: Why am I sitting over here? It makes no sense.

537
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 1: Squeeze it on down and then look for that deep

538
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: crosser coming to back and I can drop on back

539
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 1: seventeen deep and then everything else you come up on it.

540
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 1: Like it's stuff like that that guys don't really be like,

541
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 1: oh I did want to know, figure out what you

542
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: do doing next to you, and then space out further

543
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: and further because that helps make you better.

544
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 2: It makes the team better.

545
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 1: And then when y'all look good and you play good,

546
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna go get paid good.

547
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 2: It may not be there, it could be somewhere.

548
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 3: Else, be somewhere yep, yeah, brother, you gotta be out

549
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 3: there because like you said, too, when when people next

550
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 3: to you, when your dudes know your job, it makes

551
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 3: everybody's job easier.

552
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 2: It makes everybody.

553
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 3: You know what the weakness is take away, Everything has

554
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 3: a weakness, but people are always looking out for you.

555
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 3: When you do your job, it's putting it to somebody

556
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 3: else to make the play. So like you said, and

557
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 3: the same defense, if you keep coming in to a

558
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 3: defense that you did the previous year with your dudes,

559
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 3: you're able to learn it so much more too. Like

560
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 3: the nuances, you know what he likes to do. You

561
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 3: know how we like to move. You thin can move.

562
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 2: I'm jumping this.

563
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 3: So if we have a coup of two flats, if

564
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 3: I go and number ones going up the sideline making

565
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 3: I'm jumping it.

566
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 2: You got that you.

567
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 3: Take that, because then that that whole shot, that's your pick.

568
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 3: The flat route is my pick. You know what I'm saying.

569
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 3: We gotta be on the stream together because if I

570
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 3: leave it and you don't know, I'm going I'm leaving

571
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 3: a whole shot wide open and we look nuts. So

572
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna looking at you and you like this. If

573
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 3: number two goes flat, Joe, I know you're gonna go

574
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 3: pick that and I'm gonna go take off one's head

575
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 3: or pick that ball off.

576
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 2: So we're on the string so I know I'm not

577
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 2: leaving him out to dry, and he's not leaving me

578
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 2: out to dry. We're working together.

579
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 3: So if you get that moving and the more that

580
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 3: you start flowing and get to play the defenses, you

581
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 3: hear a call when you're young, you're a rookie.

582
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 2: All you're trying to.

583
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 3: Do is I got come to I gotta make sure

584
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 3: I get I gotta make sure he goes inside. I

585
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 3: got a squat, I gotta shuffle. You're not worried about

586
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 3: all about to running out route. I'm like this poll

587
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 3: on what was it called? Okay, I got squat. Okay,

588
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 3: I need to be five hours off and no you're

589
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 3: not smooth with it. You're not figuring it out. I'm like,

590
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 3: what is it called? I know the call going, Now

591
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 3: what are they about to do?

592
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 2: Bro?

593
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: I used to be over there, I'd be like all right.

594
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: They'd be like, okay, it's whatever. I'd be like, all right,

595
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 1: run past I got this, I got that. Okay, run

596
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: to me, I got this, Run away from me, I

597
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: got this. Okay, Okay, I got it.

598
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 2: I got it. Oh shit, who started the motion? That's what? Yes? Yes, yes, yes, debo.

599
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 3: Then it's happening live bullets and they got motion.

600
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 2: We have to check. So that's why the vets. You

601
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 2: come out there. You know the call and you're like, if.

602
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 3: He emotions, we're going to this right, already pre alerting

603
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 3: it so when you see it, nobody's panicking. So like

604
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 3: the comfortability of everybody, like boom boom, we already alerting something.

605
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 2: The defense is already done. We already been on what

606
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 2: we got.

607
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 3: We're trying to figure out what they're about to do

608
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 3: and how we're going to adjust to it in the fly.

609
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 3: And that's when, like you got smooth defenses you got

610
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 3: to do out there trying to figure out, oh we

611
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 3: got covered too. Now when it's moving to a different defense,

612
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 3: he's like this, Oh no, why did they motion so.

613
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,479
Speaker 2: Like, not in a bad way, but it's real, live bullets.

614
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 3: It's panic coming on the dudes that don't know their jobs,

615
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 3: that aren't really comfortable in.

616
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 2: The system, you know what I'm saying.

617
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 3: And I was out there like, okay, you're trying to

618
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 3: listen and you're looking at your safety police. You better

619
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 3: give me everything. When somebody moves, I'm looking at him.

620
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 3: Give me that, give me that what we in now?

621
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 2: All right?

622
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 3: Man, Okay, I know it, but I'm not fluent. I'm

623
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 3: not good enough to call it out my mouth.

624
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 2: And then is loud and wrong you're about to be right, Oh,

625
00:27:59,040 --> 00:27:59,719
Speaker 2: the wrong defense.

626
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there and I'm like, okay, it's supposed to

627
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: go to this, and I think I'm.

628
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 2: Like, oh hell, that wasn't the one I thought it

629
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 2: was supposed to.

630
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 3: Yes, we say, but if you're all wrong with one

631
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 3: person wrong, you all better be wrong.

632
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 2: Let's not be wrong again. That's something else. They were like, well,

633
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 2: one wrong is all wrong.

634
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, nah, no, put me in put

635
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: me in there with the vets man.

636
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 2: Because they ain't gonna get it wrong. I can't. I

637
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 2: can't wait on somebody what I'm saying.

638
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 3: Yes, you know, you know that's a hard life out

639
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 3: there with that check and you're looking at that linebacker

640
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 3: he don't really know. And I'm like, whatever you say,

641
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do because we're gonna be wrong together or

642
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 3: we're gonna be right together.

643
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 2: So say something because we're gonna check. Yeah, yeah, dude.

644
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: The last one we got here, your boy he went

645
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: monk and we had that already, but uh, Laflora got

646
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: another job over there with the Cardinals. Dude, what is

647
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: that Sean McVay right from there, that's where he can't do.

648
00:28:55,920 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: That's his what fifth fifth coaches something like that that

649
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: came from up under him as far as being, you know,

650
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: not having a ahead head coaching job before that, or

651
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: or DC job or anything like just button naked. That's

652
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: five head coaches, button neckd tree work. I think it's

653
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: La floor Taylor O'Connor, Uh huh, Morris.

654
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 3: And uh that's a good that's more. It's not a

655
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 3: fast that's a fast.

656
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 2: Coin. That's it. Yeah, Liam Cohen, that's it. But that's

657
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 2: a fast tree, dude, Wow.

658
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: Oh Stanley, that was the other one. That's what it was. Yeah,

659
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: Staley Staley, Brandon Staley. Yeah, that's a nine years bro,

660
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: five of them. That's that's that's loose right there.

661
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 3: That is that is that's a that's that's a great

662
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 3: job man being able to I give it to the

663
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 3: coach for something.

664
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: Well, yeah he was, but he didn't he didn't get

665
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: the job. So I think we were talking about here

666
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: for Shootler wasn't mm hmmm, Yeah he did, didn't he

667
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: didn't he interview?

668
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he did.

669
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: I think he did own interview, though I believe it

670
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: was a phone interview or something like that.

671
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

672
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 3: That he's maybe he doing a great job, young energy.

673
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 3: And do you think he do you think he has

674
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 3: GM control?

675
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 2: I don't know, that's just it.

676
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I know what he does, do

677
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: he because he he just developed those coaches, Yes, he

678
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: developed those coaches, or he get coaches that can be developed,

679
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,959
Speaker 1: however you want to look at it. But he's putting

680
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: out He's putting out coaches left and right. What is it,

681
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: almost one every other year.

682
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 2: Hell more than that. It's nine years, five of them

683
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 2: so far.

684
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: And you know, that's just headed coaches, not including people

685
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: who you know went up to different maybe to a

686
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: DCoC or whatever.

687
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 3: And the thing I can see about him too is

688
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 3: he's young. He's young, and his energy and he's very passionate,

689
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 3: and he's play calling. He's really super duper involved, and

690
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 3: I think when you're that involved, if you have the

691
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 3: coaches under you. He seems like he's in the facility

692
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 3: all the time, writing up place.

693
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 2: When he got hired. I'm trying to figure that out.

694
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

695
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 3: He looks like he lives in breeze Ball, but at

696
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 3: the same time, he's teaching these dudes because they're leaving

697
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 3: and being able to do what he's not, not do

698
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 3: exactly what he's doing, but comparable offenses, you know what

699
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like being able to figure out schemes, being

700
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,719
Speaker 3: able to get people open, not just running basic things

701
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 3: that were back in the day.

702
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: It's a new system. It's a new way of scheming

703
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 2: people opening.

704
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 3: You gotta have talent, you gotta have somebody to get

705
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 3: the ball there. But they are putting people in positions

706
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 3: to win all of the emotions, all of the being

707
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 3: able to analyze and understanding what the coverage is, where

708
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 3: we can go to beat the coverage. Like all those

709
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 3: motions and moving people around the Kyle Shannon and the mcvay's,

710
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 3: that's not just for nothing. That's not just to have

711
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 3: people moving. That's to get recognition for your quarterback. And

712
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 3: I think that's one thing that all the movements that

713
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,959
Speaker 3: they've don is being able to get people open. And

714
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 3: I think that's a big thing that all of the

715
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 3: old school coaches. They don't really do that. It's kind

716
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 3: of just kind of sitting there and basics. So I

717
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 3: think that that is a big, big part of it.

718
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it looks like he was actually hired when

719
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: he was thirty years old forty five days three or

720
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: thirty years, three hundred and fifty four days when he

721
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: was hired as head coach of the Rams back in

722
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen January. Yeah, he was barely running up on

723
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: thirty one.

724
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 2: Whew. That's crucial, brother, that's a great We.

725
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: Got ten been in two Super Bowls, won one, lost one.

726
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: We got all ten coaching spots looking like they'll be

727
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: fully feeled here.

728
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 2: And I guess one.

729
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: Of the things people are talking about is zero black

730
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: head coaches, What do you what do you think about that?

731
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 2: Man?

732
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 3: Obviously, I mean, go ahead, Debo, go ahead. I mean

733
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 3: so I think.

734
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: That it can.

735
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 3: I want to have black coaches out there. I think

736
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 3: that there's a lot of good defensive coordinators. There's a

737
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 3: lot of good black coaches out there that should be

738
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 3: for the running. I think that right now too. In

739
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 3: the league, it is a what have you done for

740
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 3: me lately? Like It's not like all coaches are being

741
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 3: able to just stay where they're at, so the opportunities

742
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 3: are going to be coming up. I'm not liking that.

743
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 3: I mean, Aaron Glenn, he was out there quickly, Mayo.

744
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 3: The black coaches that are getting out there aren't being

745
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 3: out there too long.

746
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 2: But it's just the league is the league is the

747
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 2: league is what have you done for me lately?

748
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 3: Business? I think the relationships of people you're gonna if

749
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't know, Debo.

750
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 2: It's just it's.

751
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: I think, well, I'm gonna go ahead and just give

752
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: it to you how I feel or how I may

753
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: have I made if I was in that position. Okay,

754
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: so if I was in a position where, like I said,

755
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: they came up with the Rooney Rue two thousand.

756
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 2: And three or something like that.

757
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: And from there, I think the first black coach that

758
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: actually got hired that wasn't a previous coach before on

759
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: another team was coach Thomas.

760
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 2: That's like, and that was.

761
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: Before the you know, that was actually the first one

762
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: that was you know, the first black coach that was

763
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: hired as a head coach that wasn't an actual head

764
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: coach before that. So and the reason that was is

765
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: because he killed the interview. Because I was there and

766
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: we thought that I believe it was Russ Grim. We

767
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: thought Russ Grim was going to be the person to

768
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: get in and get the job, and Coach T came

769
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: in there and he just smashed the interview like he

770
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: did a great job.

771
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 2: They said, and you know, bye Bayh, Bayh.

772
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: He was young. You know, it went and accordance with

773
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: what they had been doing. It was the energy, it

774
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: was all there, and they made a good decision. You know.

775
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 2: Coach T was a good head coach.

776
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: He got a Super Bowl his second year, went to

777
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 1: another one two years later.

778
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 2: So he did it. He did a good job. He

779
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 2: came in, he didn't blow up nothing.

780
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: He actually kept most of what it was that was

781
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: especially defense, everything in defense. And then Bruce arians was

782
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: there already as the receivers coach and he promoted him

783
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: to O C, which again smart because you got being

784
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: just coming into his own so you don't want to

785
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: just get him out of there. And like the Rooney

786
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 1: rue was a good thing and it's a bad thing.

787
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: And for me, like for coach, it got him in

788
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: the room period. He wouldn't even have got in the

789
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 1: room for that. But now you're trying to figure out

790
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: am I getting in the room and the room is

791
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: already against me because they're trying to check a box,

792
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: you know, just getting in it, or am I getting

793
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: in the room because they're legitimately not too you see

794
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So and when you look at it

795
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: like pride, you're telling me what I got to do

796
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 1: as a billionaire. I'm a billionaire, Joe, and you're telling

797
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: me who I got an interview and how many people

798
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: I got an interview, Like that's a lot of pride

799
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 1: to swallow for somebody who've been doing what they wanted

800
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: to do for most of the process of how they've

801
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: been successful or having some success. They had to have

802
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: some success to get the billions. You know what I'm saying,

803
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: whatever that may be. And yeah, you know, and like

804
00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: I said, like now you in the interview process, and

805
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: if you don't absolutely just smash it, then you gotta

806
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: go in there and be so much better than the

807
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: person before you, because you kind of done tilted the

808
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 1: room to me or away from me as I would

809
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: if I was if I was a dude with a billion,

810
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: like you gonna tell me what I gotta do and

811
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: I've been doing. Come on, now look at it. Two

812
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: thousand and three. I think the Lions they got fined

813
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: in two thousand and three for not meeting the requirements

814
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: when it first they meant pushback, dude, You're gonna get pushback, dude.

815
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: And it may not even.

816
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: Be that they're against it or not, but you telling

817
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: me what I gotta do, like that kind of makes

818
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: me want to push back, just because that's in the

819
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: personality for some people, like and I think until you

820
00:37:55,360 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: get people of our color in those position, you're going

821
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,240
Speaker 1: to run into what you have here, and it's gonna

822
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: be more people hired. Like when it comes down to it,

823
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: if it's you and it's another coach and he has

824
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: to be white, and I like both of you guys,

825
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: and we sit down and we vibe out and all

826
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: of a sudden, me and Joe we got things in come.

827
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: And like I'm feeling live from you, I'm not feeling

828
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: from the other coach. Because our paths didn't cross in

829
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: the same you know, our backgrounds, all that didn't cross

830
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: in the same areas. We don't have nothing to do

831
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 1: with each other. So I'm gonna go with the person

832
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: that I'm more comfortable with. And that's when it comes

833
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: down to a personal connection. Bro.

834
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: It ain't nothing wrong with it.

835
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:46,919
Speaker 1: To try and you know force like like, I'm gonna

836
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: just go I'm gonna check the box. Why because like

837
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 1: they said, they find Detroit in two thousand and three,

838
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: and well, okay, I want to keep making money. I

839
00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: want to keep doing what I'm doing. I want to

840
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: make everybody happy. So, you know what, I'm gonna check

841
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: the box, keep it moving. But when it comes down

842
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: to it, I'm gonna get who it is that I

843
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: want to get.

844
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know so, And I was with you, Debo

845
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 3: one thousand percent when you say it's the if you

846
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 3: want to get the best person for the job, do

847
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, like, if he's a good coach,

848
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,479
Speaker 3: what is how does that work? But like you said,

849
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 3: if you come to two good candidates that you like,

850
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 3: like you said, and you end up pulling both of

851
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 3: me and you end up vibing with a person more,

852
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 3: then that's not I can't hold that against anybody.

853
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, You would do the same.

854
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 3: You're not going to just hire based on you know

855
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, just because they're black or just because

856
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 3: they're white.

857
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 2: I want to hire because they're the better person to

858
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 2: do the job.

859
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 3: Now, when you get too equal things like man, they're

860
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 3: both feeling really good.

861
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 2: I kind of just like this person more. I mean,

862
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 2: like you know what I'm saying, Like that.

863
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: On top of it, you got to look and see, like, well,

864
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: we don't know, how did the other coaches do in

865
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: the interview?

866
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 2: I don't did they bomb the interview? I don't know

867
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: did they not do well in the interview?

868
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: Like looking at what I'm seeing with my parthy and

869
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: what I've heard from the inside and all that, the

870
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: other interviews weren't so great, and he smashed it.

871
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 2: He smashed it.

872
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: I think that's why he is the right, dude, for

873
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: the job. Dude, Like I told you, he got me

874
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: to change just after I had to sit back and

875
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: I was, I was, I was, I was too quick

876
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: to speak. I had to listen to what the man

877
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: was saying and and be like okay, yeah, and then

878
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: look at look at his record, look at what he's done.

879
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: And hell, even in green and not Green Bay, sorry,

880
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: even in Dallas. Who knows what part of that was

881
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: actually getting handicapped by old Jerry thinking he know best.

882
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 2: Jerry is worse any like.

883
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: The only person like like the smartest person in the room,

884
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: always thought I wanted to be the smartest person in

885
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: the room. I just really I realized a while ago,

886
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to be the smartest person in the room.

887
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: I can't grow in that room. I have nowhere else

888
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: to go. I need to get into other rooms. Okay,

889
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: I need to be able to have grow. The only

890
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 1: person that's worse than that, it's the person that believes

891
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: they're smartest person in the room and they're not, but

892
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: they have the power to quiet all those other voices

893
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: in that room.

894
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 2: That's the most dangerous person in the room. Jerry can't

895
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 2: get out of his own way.

896
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 1: Bro, like that may have been something where that may

897
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: have been one of those instances.

898
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, you never know what that's You never know. You

899
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 3: never know what kind of handcuffs he might have had

900
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 3: on what he would have been able to do and

901
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 3: what he's not able to do. Because the end of

902
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 3: the day, Jerry, let you know, Jerry.

903
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: Let you know, he do any and everything and if

904
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: it's something that he don't like, he go get it changed.

905
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: I'll be I'm going, Hey, I'm going into the locker

906
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: room right now, and I'm a fire in. Don't try

907
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: to worry about nothing.

908
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 2: Jerry tell you that.

909
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: And hey, listen, man, Jerry might be the only one

910
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: that go in front of the media motor the coach.

911
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 3: Do oh, bro, he got his interview, is he has

912
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 3: to do his He has a press conference to do

913
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 3: after the game.

914
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 2: They go meet with Jerry first. You gotta get it.

915
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, this is this is my team.

916
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 2: There's are my Cowboys.

917
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, we go to try and chop it up with

918
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: Jared who we can see who we can uh, what

919
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: communication we can get get from him, get get out

920
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: and see what he is.

921
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 2: He'll lets you know.

922
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 3: That's what I'm telling you if you ask, if you

923
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 3: ask him, he'll tell you. Though maybe I keep it

924
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 3: off the record. Listen, I'm gonna keep it off the record.

925
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna say exactly what you said. But Jerry

926
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 3: don't care about being on and off the record. He

927
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 3: don't care about none of that. Listen, bro, stop playing

928
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 3: speaking of talking.

929
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:41,919
Speaker 1: Uh, Justin Jeffries, Justin Jefferson, Sorry, Justin Jeffers, this man,

930
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: I'm bad with this.

931
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson. Uh.

932
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 1: He said he thinks they would have did better with

933
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold.

934
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 2: Who the hell asked him? This? Bro? That is wild?

935
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 2: Why are you gonna ask that man that question? Right

936
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 2: there in front of everybody? Baby, he said, in the

937
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl? That was that man? Quarterback?

938
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: He said, yeah, I mean, for sure, definitely. Everyone knows

939
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: how difficult the quarterback position this year, how difficult of

940
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks phibition this year? And it was, you know,

941
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: we dealt with it basically. And then he went on

942
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: to say, I guess USA Today's who is this? Prince Grimes.

943
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,919
Speaker 1: He asked him if he thought that the Vikings could

944
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: have reached the Super Bowl if they ran it back

945
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,439
Speaker 1: with Donald and he said, having a quarterback that's all

946
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: already had a season under his belt with us, knows

947
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 1: the plays knows, the playbook knows, the players of course,

948
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: throwing to me, Jordan Akinson, t J Hockinson, all those guys.

949
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: I definitely feel like we would have done better, but

950
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: it is what it is.

951
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 2: It's on to new and better things.

952
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 1: But I'm definitely happy and proud for him that he

953
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: was able to reach it this year. Talking about Donald, Yes,

954
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 1: hey look here man. Then they fired the GM over there. Yes,

955
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: well look this one. I'm gonna tell you how you.

956
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 2: Fired the gym. This on y'all making the calls.

957
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 3: That's when I don't know what's going I don't know

958
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 3: what was going on over there, But all I know

959
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 3: is Justin Jefferson was supporting my man JJ McCarthy.

960
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 2: The whole the whole season. You know, like, yeah, man, JJ,

961
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 2: believe in you. You know what I'm saying.

962
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 3: He's young, first year rookie whatever that he was getting hurt,

963
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 3: wasn't playing, so he was supporting them. Now he's at

964
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 3: the Pro Bowl and y'all ask him. You see, Sam

965
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 3: Darnold was doing what he did, had a great We

966
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 3: see it.

967
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 2: We see what he's doing. We see how Grady's playing.

968
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 3: You're going to ask him, if he was there, would

969
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 3: it be better than if his man's was there. You're

970
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 3: gonna say, if you're not lying, and we believe in you,

971
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 3: justin and you weren't doing nothing to mess it up

972
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 3: all year, you were giving McCarthy all the love support.

973
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: Now it was off season, I was pro Bowl. Now

974
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 2: to ask you a question, do you think.

975
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 3: Sam Darnold would have been better with the team other

976
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 3: than him? And he gave his honest answer yes, in

977
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 3: which everybody else would say yes. Obviously they asked stupid

978
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 3: questions to get an answer.

979
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 2: What do you want to say? And listen, JJ was helped,

980
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: like no, I, JJ was healthy. He got something on Sam. Man,

981
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 2: Hey man, this is what I love, not being a player. Man,

982
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 2: Like I know, I know, because you political.

983
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 3: Man, you gotta be political. You got to stay off

984
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 3: the way if you start. We never know, We never know,

985
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,240
Speaker 3: you know, because he hadn't got heard. Who knows what happened?

986
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 3: You know, I saw him and we were doing great,

987
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 3: our camaraderie, we were doing really good. You know, practices

988
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 3: were flowing, you know, me and him, we had a

989
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 3: little thing I don't got.

990
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: A crystal ball. I can't tell your future. You know

991
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I don't. I don't know.

992
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,720
Speaker 2: That's what it's supposed to be. That's what I'm saying.

993
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 2: But look, Debo got GM.

994
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: So I'm telling you right now, once you get rid

995
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: of the gym and you answer it like that, maybe

996
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: the head coach like, yo, yeah, that was the gym anyway.

997
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 1: So the boy only played ten games through ten through

998
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: twelve picks. Yes, hey, Donald had that in the whole

999
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: season last year. So I'm I'm just saying, like, maybe

1000
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: this might be one of those decisions where they they

1001
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: might be looking for a new quarterback.

1002
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 2: How do you let him go though? For just because

1003
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 2: you crew?

1004
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 3: And he was hurting because they wasn't going to pay

1005
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 3: him because he hit well, he didn't help himself looking

1006
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 3: crazy in the in the playoff game.

1007
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 2: On the way out, he didn't. He didn't. He didn't

1008
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 2: put this, you know, didn't put his best foot forward.

1009
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 2: So he did he done, did the damn thing. Now

1010
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 2: he did. But look, that's what I'm saying.

1011
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 3: You asked why they did it, and now they're like, oh,

1012
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 3: you know, oh, we're going to play Sam so we

1013
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 3: paid him thirty three million dollars a year, or go

1014
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 3: get this young quarterback that we can have that for

1015
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 3: the low. And now that's when they mess around and no,

1016
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 3: you could have signed a little.

1017
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 2: Thirty around to find out. Fucking around to find out

1018
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 2: and then you, you know what I'm saying, a hand

1019
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 2: in it.

1020
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 3: When you got Sam Donald here and you see other

1021
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 3: people with Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen, you like this

1022
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 3: MM thirty three, Nah, I go get this rookie for

1023
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 3: the low. You know what I'm saying. I'm not about

1024
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 3: to pay Sam thirty three. But a team that has

1025
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 3: a full blown team, good offense, defense, special teams. He

1026
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 3: don't got a dude crazy he played in they should

1027
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 3: have me. That's what I'm saying. The Seahawks made the

1028
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 3: smart movies like this. Sam Donald at thirty three, he's

1029
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 3: not at sixty million. He's not Josh Allen Lamark, but

1030
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 3: he's good enough that we have a good ass team

1031
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 3: and he could do it for us. So he sometimes

1032
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 3: during the season. He still hasn't been playing crazy playoffs,

1033
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 3: he's been spassing, he's been like balling out his mind,

1034
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 3: for sure. But during the year, the Jon's still sometimes

1035
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,760
Speaker 3: like the beginning look good, middle looked a little foggy,

1036
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 3: and now he's spassing. So thirty three years Sam, he

1037
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 3: can come through with this game.

1038
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 2: Right here, it.

1039
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 3: Shows coach team, defense, offense, medium, thirty three, thirty point

1040
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 3: five quarterback and then he balls when we need to,

1041
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 3: you can win. So they're smart. Minnesota, you would out

1042
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 3: thirty three. You try to go for the rookie quarterback

1043
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 3: like oh yeah, we're gonna just restart it up because like, no,

1044
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna pay him. It's the quarterback contracts that

1045
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 3: throw them off. That sixty you're gonna pay the best

1046
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 3: one sixty million, Dak Prescott or Sam down on the

1047
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 3: thirty three or then you're gonna get the a rods

1048
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 3: where they're like old investment. We had to pay twelve

1049
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 3: and there's not too many tiers. They're not tears.

1050
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: You see what Atlanta did. They held on the Cousins.

1051
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: The it's like, yeah, just in case, you.

1052
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 3: Know thirty three, that thirty three five, that thirty three

1053
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 3: five or you or what we're gonna give Kyler Murray

1054
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 3: fifty You know what I'm saying to a tongue of

1055
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 3: Alua forty eight and they're like this, No, what I'm

1056
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 3: not gonna do is David Gase Sam Donald two fifty

1057
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 3: and they able to mess around. And here that did

1058
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 3: to a tongue of a lua and they had been

1059
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 3: like this, see what I'm saying. But now he went

1060
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 3: out there balled out. But they should the game of three.

1061
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 3: They should have game A three for three, four hundred and.

1062
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 2: Just some just popped in my head, Joe, some just

1063
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 2: popped Listen.

1064
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 3: Cousins t Houston, Hey, Deivo, I mean, so are you

1065
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 3: saying that another team is gonna go pay c J.

1066
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 3: Strout to the bag because he's still on his rookie deal.

1067
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 3: He's going to come, He's going to get the bag.

1068
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 3: Is he's gonna do you think he's gonna go get

1069
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 3: the Are you gonna get the bag? He's gonna get

1070
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 3: the fifty some somewhere They're either gonna have to give

1071
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 3: him a So you said, if.

1072
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: You're saying TJ is gonna get the bag, after what

1073
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: we seen the last brother brother brother brother the.

1074
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 3: Bag, So what the bag is? Sam Donald got the bag?

1075
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 3: The bag is.

1076
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 2: Get So we're not talking, he's not getting talking sixty

1077
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 2: you're talking to sixty. You're talking to sixty sixty batter,

1078
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 2: that's the bag. He getting the fifty bag. You might

1079
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 2: get the fifty bag.

1080
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,439
Speaker 3: It depended on if the if the Houston Texans don't

1081
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 3: let him go. He got one more. He has another

1082
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 3: year left on this deal, so then before the fifth

1083
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 3: year option, and then he's gonna be able to go.

1084
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 3: He got approve a year this year. Right now, he's

1085
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 3: still gonna go out there and ball. But I know

1086
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 3: a team is still signing them for. You don't think

1087
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 3: they can sign him. What do you think they signed

1088
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 3: him for if he left Houston?

1089
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 2: The Sam Donald bang.

1090
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: Listen, you got a defense there right now that is

1091
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: out of control. You better get something there that can

1092
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 1: guarantee if he don't do it.

1093
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 2: You telling me, uh.

1094
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: A cousin sitting right there right now ain't worth it

1095
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: to you.

1096
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm going to put it on. I'm going

1097
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 2: to put it on. I'm gonna put it on c J.

1098
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put it on CJ.

1099
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 3: He got I know he's I'm gonna put Kirk Cousins

1100
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 3: back there breathing down your neck like like a like

1101
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,959
Speaker 3: like a dragon off of putting it on CJ. Because

1102
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 3: I know he knows he wants he he knows he

1103
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 3: knows he wants that fifty bag and he's gonna because

1104
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 3: he gotta go out there and who he did his

1105
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 3: rookie year and it hasn't been the same same. But

1106
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 3: I'm still there because you believe in insurance. Man in

1107
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 3: your house, did you fix them?

1108
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 2: Yourself? Was insurance fixed? They were definitely insured? Okay with definitely.

1109
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: Don't believe, Hey, get rid of the insurance, Joe, get

1110
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: rid of You're talking about bringing in Kirk Cousins.

1111
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 3: And so you're drinking in Kirk Cousins and we're still CJ. Stots,

1112
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 3: still the starting quarterback this year. You're getting rid of him.

1113
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna keep it there, but I need to

1114
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: get this game. I need to put some pressure on you.

1115
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 2: You're gonna have him back now, but you're gonna pay Kirk.

1116
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 3: What you're gonna pay Kirk twelve twelve be the backup

1117
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 3: or what I'm paying whatever he asked for that that

1118
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 3: ain't above twenty.

1119
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, So you're got new cap space and

1120
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 2: all that.

1121
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 3: No that That's what I'm trying to tell you. So

1122
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 3: the money. That's where you say the yeah CJ. No,

1123
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 3: I mean Tua got the forty ags and look what happened.

1124
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 3: I under understand. I understand that's why they But then

1125
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 3: he holding them hostage right now with that contract. No,

1126
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 3: you damn sure is he's raving them boys.

1127
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 2: Wait the table and we said what he said? What

1128
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 2: he said, I'm the best in the nation, in the nation,

1129
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 2: You're gonna give me that bag?

1130
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: Oh nah? But yoj Hold up, though, hold up? Did

1131
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: you see the boxer man?

1132
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 2: Oh my, GODYL.

1133
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: Miller his peace. You see his piece come off, bro,

1134
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: his hair piece brother debo, Live Brother. I saw it,

1135
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: live Brother, and then he threw that thing into the

1136
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: brother brother brother brother, Hey, brother, brother brother.

1137
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 3: He was hitting right in his hairline and that joint

1138
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 3: popped up.

1139
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 2: Listen, it got the peeking and waving at people, my brother.

1140
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 2: But when he went to the side.

1141
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 3: When he went to the side, though, Bro, he had

1142
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 3: to take it off because it would have jumped off

1143
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 3: during the match and it would have had the whole

1144
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 3: You had to hold your whole top on the canvas

1145
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 3: looking crazy.

1146
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 2: Joe, Listen, I ain't gonna lie. I didn't watch.

1147
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:44,399
Speaker 1: The fight, right, but I'm looking at a picture where

1148
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 1: they're like going through the slides of it, and I'm like,

1149
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 1: and in my head, listen, Joe, I ain't.

1150
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, damn, beat as so bad.

1151
00:53:56,200 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: He's pushing his hairline broh deep, and I'm watching the

1152
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: fight he kept he kept like that, they was rubbing.

1153
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 2: He kept rubbing his head all against him. I'm like,

1154
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 2: oh my, what's going on? Is he about to take

1155
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:10,879
Speaker 2: his whole head off?

1156
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: What made you think, bruh, that that was going to

1157
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 1: hold on with all that sweat?

1158
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 2: Like, how long had he been holding on? Had he

1159
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 2: ever had a picture where he was actually bald? I

1160
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know. He trying to say he went.

1161
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 3: Somebody said he would have got to dye and his

1162
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,760
Speaker 3: hair burned, so he had to go get the top.

1163
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,879
Speaker 2: I don't believe it because I seen the picture, said,

1164
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1165
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 3: I seen My brother told me that he saw something

1166
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 3: about it. I said, I didn't see that.

1167
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 2: All I'm telling you is I saw the joint on

1168
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 2: the on the Instagram.

1169
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:47,399
Speaker 3: When you also, he had to get a piece on top,

1170
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 3: had to get a piece on top.

1171
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 2: I don't believe. I don't believe that. I think because

1172
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 2: his head looked clean.

1173
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 3: It looked like a regular body, like besides the fake

1174
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 3: line the head on the front.

1175
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 2: Well, you know that's how you got to do it,

1176
00:54:59,239 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 2: to get a piece.

1177
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 3: I know what I'm saying is because I was about

1178
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 3: to get mine done.

1179
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,919
Speaker 2: I was gonna shave it right here, round through here,

1180
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 2: and then I.

1181
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 1: Was about to put it. Depo, you're goin to put

1182
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: a piece off, I'm gonna put a piece on. But

1183
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: I was gonna have dreads though. You know what I'm saying.

1184
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: I had dre I will go have mine dreaded up

1185
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: until him. I went to the hairclub for men whatever that.

1186
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 2: Is, you, debo. You can't go from the clean, clean

1187
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 2: chrome dome to.

1188
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: The dreads miracle grow like plants, except it's here.

1189
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1190
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 3: You just think that glue was go hold with all

1191
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 3: that sweating head, I don't know what. And he's going

1192
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 3: in a boxing match with Buddy was Buddy was hitting

1193
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 3: him right on his hairline.

1194
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 2: I was like, brot, if you.

1195
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 3: Look back at the fight too, I seen his bench

1196
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:53,879
Speaker 3: when he went to the corner, and it.

1197
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 2: Was sitting on the top of his head. Kind of

1198
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 2: folded a little bit.

1199
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 3: He was looking I seen the man looking at him

1200
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 3: like he was talking, and he was just ready. He's like,

1201
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 3: I gotta take this off your head before you go

1202
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 3: back out there.

1203
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: You know you look nuts, you know you got you

1204
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: know it's sitting up.

1205
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 3: Do you feel that? Do you feel that when that

1206
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 3: breeze that breathe, Hey, big blue on the top of

1207
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 3: his head.

1208
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 2: Glue doesn't let loose?

1209
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: Now off the top of your head? Hey, hey brother,

1210
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: let you know your top off right now?

1211
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 2: You're right?

1212
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: Do you want to split decision? But I ain't gonna

1213
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 1: lie to you. I don't even know if I could

1214
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: have gave it to him. Man, you just got your

1215
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: just got your two pay beat off you you know.

1216
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 2: Fe off Man, I had the inside of it too.

1217
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 2: Oh did that? Hey man?

1218
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: It looked like he was trying to beat it off

1219
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 1: of him. Every time you hit him.

1220
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 3: Look, every time you hit him.

1221
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was good, bro, that had me weak. You

1222
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 2: can't do that.

1223
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 3: You went to the boxing match with a two pay on, bro,

1224
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:55,879
Speaker 3: you can't do that.

1225
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 2: Like who told him that was a good idea? Like

1226
00:56:58,560 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 2: at what point?

1227
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, all right, I burnt he burns his hair

1228
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: I burnt my hair off. Man, I'm gonna need you

1229
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,760
Speaker 1: to give me your piece. Like, who do you find

1230
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: for that? Like every barber ain't doing nothing. No, no, yeah,

1231
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 1: search that out. They're artists.

1232
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 2: And they lie to him and said, we go, Man,

1233
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 2: this has never come off. I'm gonna come.

1234
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna put this high top box fade

1235
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 3: on your ass so you're gonna look so good at

1236
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 3: that fight and knocked it off.

1237
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 2: Huh, give you this.

1238
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 3: I would give you this Will Smith Fresh Prince jump

1239
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 3: and you're gonna be so clean.

1240
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 2: Buck up. Hey, they gotta be like they gotta be

1241
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 2: like you can't.

1242
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: That's some type of equipment that you can't have, Like

1243
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: that's I gotta be gett some type of rules or something.

1244
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 2: Bro. If you a whole boxer, you need to go

1245
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 2: ahead and go in there. Ball ahead, go in that jump,

1246
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 2: ball ahead. Burn you about to go in that thing

1247
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 2: and box.

1248
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 3: He tried to put the two pay on at a

1249
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 3: professional boxing match. He's gonna go hit your hairline, He's

1250
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 3: gonna hit you with the face.

1251
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 2: But he was thinking.

1252
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: He was thinking that he couldn't hit him on top

1253
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: of the head to be legal. But he ain't realized, like.

1254
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 3: The only glue, the only glue that stayed was on

1255
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 3: the back, because he could have put.

1256
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 2: It off and pulled off a little bit of that

1257
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 2: skin too. He had. He was bleeding a little bit.

1258
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 2: I ain't lying, Joe, Yeah, lying.

1259
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: To you so super worked in one spot, but it

1260
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: just worked enough to keep it flapping off. Breeze, Dude,

1261
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 1: he was hitting him so.

1262
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 2: Hard, man, It just he wasn't even hitting even hard

1263
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 2: like that, but it was just popping over. I think

1264
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 2: it was just popping up off his head. Bro. That

1265
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 2: was actually crazy, brou like, that was actually crazy.

1266
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: Listen listen, I ain't even he still won those split decisions.

1267
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, one of my hair.

1268
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 1: Oh lord, Joe, listen, Joe, listen, Joe, listen, Joe, one

1269
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 1: of my Stop Joe, stop, Joe, listen.

1270
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 2: That man got spang. Oh my goodness. Look here, man,

1271
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 2: we gotta let the people know. Man.

1272
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: We will not be here tomorrow, right, No, we will

1273
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 1: not be here tomorrow. We will be traveling to the

1274
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. We're using that as a travel day. But

1275
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: we will be live from the Media Center Wednesday and

1276
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: Thursday eleven to twelve forty five.

1277
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 2: Wednesday, Thursday least Eastern.

1278
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 1: We'll have guests for the first time, So y'all be there, Yes,

1279
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:43,919
Speaker 1: tap in Joe, Yes, sir, what you what you're looking

1280
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: to do?

1281
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 2: What you're looking to do? Who you want to talk to? Joe?

1282
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: It don't don't say nothing, just I know, give me

1283
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: the look I could tell.

1284
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 2: Oh for real? Okay, Okay, that's who? No you a

1285
00:59:58,360 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 2: damn live yeah?

1286
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, way you owe you or something?

1287
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 2: Something?

1288
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: Boy? I think all right, baby, look here, man, let's go. Man,

1289
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: we gonna be where we at? What's the bull We

1290
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 1: got a boot we had a booth number yet anyway,

1291
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: We're gonna let y'all know eight eighty eight come on

1292
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 1: through the media center.

1293
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 2: We go be there. Okay, I think we might be

1294
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 2: making appearance, you know.

1295
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 3: Night Cab with Shannon the Chad over there Thursday night.

1296
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 1: So let's get it cracking the homies the homies for show.

1297
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 2: Joe.

1298
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, Hey man, it's been a pleasure. Make sure

1299
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 3: y'all tap in with us live when we're out in

1300
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 3: the same frand we're gonna see y'all out there with

1301
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 3: our first time with our live guests.

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