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Speaker 1: He is Luke Thomas. Luke, how the hell is your

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Speaker 1: Three years ago, on a late Sunday night Red Eye,

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Speaker 1: to look like? Hafiel Do Sanjos, the former champion to

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Speaker 2: I know he has represented Kyrgyzstan and an Azerbaijantu extent. Okay,

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Speaker 1: It had nineteen seventy nine. And it happened, Luke, were

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Speaker 2: But he absorbs five point five, So he trades a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it becomes violent as shit too, Luke having to

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Speaker 1: But Luke, everything this this brick shit house throws is heavy,

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Speaker 1: Can our Da use the experience at thirty seven to

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Speaker 1: It may come down to can he take this fight

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Speaker 2: as quality as those guys are, so in that sense,

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00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 2: I do think there's a little bit of a similarity

429
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,479
Speaker 2: to Aldo to bansaweight. However meaningful. The differences are in

430
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,199
Speaker 2: conjunction with it. And so in that sense, did he

431
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,680
Speaker 2: look poor, did he get a gifted win? Did he

432
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,879
Speaker 2: show you some kind of red flag? No, absolutely not.

433
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 2: He looked dialed in, He looked like his weight was

434
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,159
Speaker 2: on point, his training was on point. Remember we're not

435
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 2: talking about ABC. He moved back to Brazil recently. He's

436
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,639
Speaker 2: with Nova Unyao. He had been in the United States

437
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 2: for a long time, and so, pardon me, he believes

438
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 2: he's refreshed and that this has contributed to a lot

439
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 2: of what has happened. I take that seriously, but until

440
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 2: he beats someone like this, right, who is young, who's

441
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,400
Speaker 2: got great takedown defense, who's not coming in on short notice,

442
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 2: we can't really say a whole lot about this move

443
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 2: back to lightweight for RDA.

444
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, his career has been a constant state

445
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,639
Speaker 1: of reinvention. I mean that's part of what makes him

446
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 1: so dynamic historically, along with of course being an ex

447
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 1: champion and having always fought the best. I mean, his resume,

448
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,400
Speaker 1: We've shouted it out before. Both wins and losses are

449
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 1: a freaking who's who. And look, maybe my favorite reinvention was,

450
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 1: you know, he brought a five fight win streak Guardia

451
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 1: into that twenty fourteen bout with Habib, and look, he

452
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 1: got absolutely dominated. And then he bounces directly out of

453
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 1: that three months later, stops Jason High, stops Benson Henderson,

454
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 1: takes decisions from Nate Diez and Anthony Pettis, and then

455
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 1: stops Kyle boys Seroni for his second win over the

456
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Speaker 1: fellow legend. I mean, you know, then has those two

457
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,360
Speaker 1: losses in which he loses the title, but comes right back,

458
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 1: moves up to Walter Wait and gets three straight big wins.

459
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,919
Speaker 1: Safadine Magni and Lawler. So it's what he does. I

460
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,400
Speaker 1: think I saw enough against moy Kano to show you that.

461
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 1: I mean, it's still in there, Luke. It might be

462
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 1: a little bit of fools goal for the circumstances of

463
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 1: those two fights, but just what six years ago he said,

464
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 1: you know, trying to make weight for the title loss

465
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Speaker 1: to Eddie Alvarez and of course the dominant loss to

466
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,439
Speaker 1: Tony Ferguson which followed. I mean, he almost died. So

467
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 1: to see him, you know, find the right science and

468
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 1: safe way to cut that and be back in this spot.

469
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Speaker 1: I mean, damn, is it a shout out to who

470
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 1: he is, what he's made of. But damn, watching the

471
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 1: tape of this five fight win streak for Phyziv, it's

472
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: like there's nothing easy about this challenge at all. But

473
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: Luke Vegas certainly respects the legend our friends at Caesar

474
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 1: minus two twenty for the younger Phyzive but plus one

475
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,400
Speaker 1: eighty for RDA, So we know what this is about. Right,

476
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 1: five rounds it's gonna explain a lot, and it should

477
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 1: explain a lot, because if this is physive beating a legend,

478
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 1: here a former champ he's gonna skyrocket into the top five.

479
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: He's gonna have a six fight win streak. You should

480
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 1: have to go through somebody this tough over five rounds, Luke,

481
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 1: If this is a stand up fight, if RDA cannot

482
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Speaker 1: secure the takedown, which you said was key to one

483
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 1: he does, does it become a war of tradition or

484
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: do you still think RDA has a savvy in terms

485
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 1: of how he sets up his strikes, that there's a

486
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: chance he can control this fight without it becoming a

487
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 1: war against somebody this explosive.

488
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it'd be a war of tradition,

489
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 2: although there might be some of that as well.

490
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 1: But the attrition or tradition, Luke, Yeah, probably both.

491
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 2: But here here's what I would say again, I just

492
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 2: think the takedown is crucial here. It's not like he

493
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 2: has to get it like Habib, where you know you

494
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 2: can only fight in the feet for a minute. No, no,

495
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 2: I don't mean that, but like if he's struggling to

496
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 2: get it, or I would say this too, b see

497
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 2: pay attention to not even necessarily getting the takedown. But

498
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 2: as we call for our way through the show, like

499
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 2: two professionals, I.

500
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 1: Mean we are just just decrepit right now, this.

501
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 2: Is not it's pathetic. Our health is pathetic, it really is.

502
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 2: But again, to answer the question, if he can also

503
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 2: tangle up the zeeve along the fence line and make

504
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 2: him work for a minute or two, that also could

505
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 2: be impactful. Now that's not as valuable obviously as getting

506
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 2: the takedown then holding it, not even close, but it

507
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 2: does carry some utility. I wonder the thing for me

508
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 2: with Phyziv. He has so many weapons. RDA is good

509
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 2: on the feet as a southpaw, he's got a rangy

510
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 2: left hand. Obviously we know about his kicks on the

511
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 2: left side. They're brutal, and he puts them all together.

512
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 2: But Phyzive, while he does accept a little bit more

513
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 2: of a dangerous situation at times, much more powerful and

514
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 2: although RDA is powerful with his kicks, but much more

515
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 2: powerful I say, with Physive's boxing dude, much more frankly

516
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 2: in that space, athletic, much more explosive, quick like. He

517
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 2: can just do a lot there. I don't know how

518
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 2: RDA is going to hold up to that. But again

519
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 2: it's to what extent can RDA mix in either takedowns

520
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 2: and or other forms of wrestling. Entanglement that could give

521
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 2: physive problems slow him down. I just think if you

522
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 2: let Phyziv have a kickboxing match with you in four

523
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 2: ounce gloves, it's gonna be very hard to win. But

524
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 2: if you can slow him down, make him work, press

525
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 2: him up against the fence, just find a way to

526
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 2: slow down the fight so that your offense can come

527
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 2: much more naturally behind it. That is a very winnable path.

528
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 2: I do believe that it's just a really open question

529
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 2: if he's going to be able to do that. So

530
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 2: I guess we're gonna have to see. This is a

531
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 2: real test, as you put it, real test of who

532
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 2: RDA is at thirty seven, back at one fifty five,

533
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 2: back at home in Brazil. I'm curious, dude.

534
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 1: They are gonna leg strike the shit out of each

535
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: other in the first two rounds here. Look, this is

536
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:29,959
Speaker 1: gonna be brutal.

537
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 2: Can we say something too about RDA, Like, I know

538
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 2: he lost that Tony Ferguson fight, and you know, Tony's

539
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,719
Speaker 2: not I think, in the same level of resiliency this

540
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 2: late in his career. Although RDA is a little bit younger.

541
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 2: But RDA lost to peak Tony Ferguson, In fact, if

542
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 2: you look at Ferguson's resume, that might be Ferguson's best win.

543
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,959
Speaker 2: I take that one very seriously. If you don't remember it,

544
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 2: and I'm not saying you, I mean the proverbial you

545
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 2: out there. That was in Mexico City, and that was

546
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 2: the main event. They fought five rounds at more more

547
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 2: than seven thousand feet elevation. That's crazy, and look at

548
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 2: the pace they kept. It was bonkers. Like Tony Ferguson

549
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 2: was so hard to beat when they fought in that

550
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 2: moment in time, and so Rdia losing to him, not

551
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 2: saying it doesn't mean anything. Obviously he wasn't the better

552
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 2: guy that night, but that's somewhat forgivable given the circumstances.

553
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 2: And what I will say is, dude, for all of

554
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 2: the tough fights that RDA has been in, like just

555
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 2: go back to his Kamaru Usman fight. Usmin landed over

556
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 2: ten takedowns and over one hundred significant strikes, some absurd

557
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 2: level of dominance and his level Rdia's level be see

558
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 2: would you agree his level of durability is legendary? And

559
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 2: I'd add one more note. Everyone pinpointed Rdia is the

560
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 2: guy who oh. You know what, when Yusada comes around,

561
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 2: his physique is gonna change and he's gonna pop bitches.

562
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 2: Not one thing changed about it. Nothing. Everyone who said

563
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 2: that was wrong. And his durability is some of the

564
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 2: best I've ever seen in MMA, you know.

565
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:07,479
Speaker 1: The combination of durability, longevity, and just what I you know,

566
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: kenin On earlier, always taking the biggest fights, even if

567
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 1: it means spectacular losses. And dude, he's got one sided

568
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: losses to both Tony and Hibib during that you know,

569
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: during that run and during that era, and you know,

570
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: missed the Connor title fight with the foot injury. He has, though,

571
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: the combination of those intangibles that, like I haven't seen

572
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 1: except for guys like Big Nog, you know what I mean,

573
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: Like guys that are just these you know what I mean,

574
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 1: Like like showgun, like Dan Hendo, just all time great,

575
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: just gritty, stubborn, all of those things that when it goes,

576
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: you think it's going to go spectacularly. But that Moikano

577
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: fight showed you that it hasn't gone, and it may

578
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: not be close to going. I mean, you do never

579
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: know here, but remarkable that he's back at this point

580
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: and look. I like that you brought up the elevation

581
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: there of seventy three hundred feet in Mexico City, because

582
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: are hardcore fans of this show who like to recognize

583
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: those those heroes that have come across the scene in

584
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: MMA over the years, you know, in short seasons, Luke,

585
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about, TRTV Tour Sea Level, Kane, motivated,

586
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: BJ Penn. Our fans have put cannabis slash vaping Luke

587
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: Thomas in that category because they think, Luke, that you've

588
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,479
Speaker 1: never been this happy and lucid and relatable, Like I

589
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: just want to give you the you know, those flowers

590
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: that you're on that level, Luke.

591
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, as you can see, me and alcohol don't

592
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 2: always pair so well. We're not exactly the best combo.

593
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 2: But I would say that there's a little something too.

594
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: Uh.

595
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 2: But I mean, yesterday, dude, on my couch watching the Eraser,

596
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 2: I had all the gummies in DC. It was unbelievable.

597
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: That's what I put out. You were sending me lbbs

598
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: covered in tats. I'm like, Okay, he's into something right now.

599
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: You know, he may not be may not have clothes

600
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: on at the moment, there, Luke. Some people did say, hey,

601
00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: if you guys you know going to keep you know,

602
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: Hawk and ag One out, I shouldn't that have prevented

603
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: you guys, Luke, I didn't. I forgot my travel packs.

604
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: I'd given it away to my parents.

605
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 2: And also and also I had been slacking, and I

606
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: didn't take mine either. The proof is actually the other

607
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: way around that when we do take it, we seem

608
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 2: to be just fine, and when we get off of it,

609
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, all the problems start starting or

610
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,479
Speaker 2: kick off. So keep that in mind too.

611
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: You know, ag One, should you consider an HGH form?

612
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 2: I would take that as well. I probably would, Shude.

613
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: I am so frail and pathetic. It's beyond the leaf

614
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 2: at this point. I had a nice long run with Yeah,

615
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 2: I had a nice long run without COVID. It has

616
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: finally come to a close. But I gotta say, like,

617
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 2: my overall health is just I mean, I'm one step

618
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 2: away from being, you know, living on the street in

619
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 2: terms of my health profile. I mean, it really is

620
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 2: just absolutely terrible. So I got to get this shit

621
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 2: under control.

622
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's time to make it. It's up to us

623
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: as of people to start making some changes, Luke, make

624
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: a make a pick here that could bring some change

625
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: in the pockets of our of our viewers and listeners.

626
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: We're going five rounds, which tell me, if I'm wrong,

627
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: this is new territory for Raphael Phyve it is this

628
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: is this is thirteenth pro fight, first scheduled five rounder.

629
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: Will that play a part at all on how you handicap.

630
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 2: This A little bit? A little bit, Here's what I

631
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 2: think is very likely. Uh, I don't know if it's

632
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 2: the likeliest possibility, but I would put there like one

633
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 2: or two, three maybe most likeliest outcomes. One outcome is

634
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 2: that Rdia can't get the takedown, but is able to

635
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: tie up Physi long enough to not get finished in

636
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 2: the first three rounds and then makes a late fight push.

637
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 2: I think that's actually very possible. Dude. Rdia's experience is

638
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 2: some of the best in all of MMA. I mean,

639
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 2: think about what he has seen, the kind of fighters

640
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 2: he has faced, the adversity during camp, the adversity during fights,

641
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 2: anything you name it, wait short notice, all of it, dude,

642
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 2: this guy has seen it and then some. He is

643
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: as grizzled a veteran fresh remarkable that you will ever

644
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 2: see and so he knows when to press the gas

645
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 2: and then the breaks. More generally, I do think it

646
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 2: is very possible that Phzigue has an early and fairly

647
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 2: consistent lead for long stretches of this fight that evaporates late.

648
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: I am curious to see how much pressure Rda will

649
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 2: be able to put on late. Because his two return

650
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 2: opponents were short notice. However good they were, they were

651
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 2: very short notice. And because he is thirty seven and

652
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 2: Phyzie's take down defense is so good, I'm gonna lean

653
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 2: towards phyziv in this contest. But I do think very

654
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 2: much Rda is a live dog. I think a couple

655
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 2: of things are gonna have to go really right for him.

656
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 2: His wrestling is gonna have to be on point at

657
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 2: some point in this fight, and I think before the

658
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 2: third round. And I also think he's gonna have to

659
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: be able to tire out Phazivue a little bit, which

660
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 2: is somewhat dicey two. But I think that it's very

661
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 2: winnable for him. I just feel like it's a few

662
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,479
Speaker 2: things that have to go his way that may not

663
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: in order to get that w That's where I'm ating.

664
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean like he's a look, RDA is gonna

665
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: have to walk through some ship to win this fight.

666
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: The other guy, I mean physive Luke is a is

667
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: a knockout threat, but he's a physical force. And when

668
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: we talk about Dosan, Joe's having success in the in

669
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,959
Speaker 1: the clinch, in some of these exchanges where he can

670
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: try to use his guile to offset the you know,

671
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: physical or youthful advantages. I mean, he's got a he's

672
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: got a silver back in front of him, and at

673
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: least in terms of this division. I mean, I couldn't

674
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: believe the commentary team and the Redell fight was trying

675
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: to talk about, Oh, Riddell just looks bigger shit, he

676
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: looks bigger Physiqe's jacked, man. I mean, his frame, everything

677
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: about him is just big Luke. But can't he go

678
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: five hard rounds with give and take Eban flows? Look,

679
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: this is this is what we're asking of him. He's

680
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: got some good wins. I mean, he stopped Mooykonoll a

681
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: couple of fights earlier and did violently stop Rodell. Has

682
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: some very good wins up to this point. But we're

683
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: gonna demand more of him. Can he meet that Luke?

684
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: I feel like maybe it's just a recent trend. I

685
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: kind of feel like we're headed toward a five round

686
00:33:55,720 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: split decision. Well, we're gonna say to ourselves judging critter wise,

687
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: did the takedowns our Da did get? Was there enough?

688
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: Here's the word, Luke, impact to control that. I just

689
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: feel like that's the season we're still in. It could

690
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: go either way as the as the betting odds tell you.

691
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: But I like a decision here. I like a disputed decision.

692
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, I gotta go

693
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: phyzive And you know, I want to pull that trigger

694
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: in our Da because I just have so much love

695
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: for that. In fact, if we don't get him on

696
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: that RSD couch Luke before the end of this calendar year,

697
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: we will have failed. Okay, topic for another day. I

698
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 1: like physique, But Luke, the point of me ranting here

699
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: is it's gonna be as close as you think it is.

700
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: This may be our Da pouring out the jug one

701
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: final time to have a stake, to have a say

702
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: that he may have won that fight, but we are

703
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: asking a lot of him at this point, even with

704
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: Phyzivee having only shown us so much because that was

705
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: all that was available to him for opportunity. This is

706
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: gonna be both physiv's breakthrough and maybe the last time

707
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: we see ourda pour all that shit out to get

708
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,959
Speaker 1: to the finished Luke. I'm looking forward to it.

709
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 2: And also just want one more note on RDA is

710
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 2: he has the verve of someone like Jeremy Stevens, but

711
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 2: he actually wore a belt. And I really hope folks

712
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 2: understand at thirty seven years old coming back down to

713
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 2: lightweight and by the way, you know, it's not his

714
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 2: fault that he had to accept two opponents on short notice,

715
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 2: but he didn't pull out of those fights either. And

716
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 2: here they are giving him the zeve, which is, you know,

717
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 2: an insanely difficult task. It's not like he's looking to

718
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 2: fight other older, bigger names. I'm sure eventually he will

719
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 2: get to that point, but they're not giving him. They're

720
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 2: not rolling out the red carpet for him. They're making

721
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 2: this fucking guy earn it at thirty seven years of age,

722
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 2: and he just says okay every time. I'm telling you, folks,

723
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 2: when he retires, there just won't be guys like him

724
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 2: very very often. There's not very many guys like this often,

725
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 2: but there were more of them during the day in

726
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 2: which he had his heyday. When he goes, there's gonna

727
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 2: be fewer and fewer and fewer. Guys like this. Appreciate

728
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 2: someone who doesn't ask for handouts, even at thirty seven

729
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 2: years of age, doesn't complain about it, and oh, by

730
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 2: the way, is still good enough to be a threat

731
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 2: to win and might just actually pull it off. RDA

732
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 2: is a special fighter in a time where these rules

733
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 2: are changing, and I hope everyone takes a moment to

734
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 2: appreciate just how unique he is.

735
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: Both of us going physive's all buy an edge there.

736
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: But your point on Urda doesn't ask for handouts, doesn't

737
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: ask for handos as far as I'm as far as

738
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: I've heard, Luke, But you know, I feel at this

739
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: point he probably could and could get it. Oh look,

740
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: you mentioned the Verve Better nineties one hit Wonder, Bittersweet

741
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: Symphony by the Verve or Freshman by the verb Pipe.

742
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: So I will tell you I hated both of those songs.

743
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 1: Oh get fuck you, fuck you, Rove, fuck you.

744
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, hold on. But I do have

745
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 2: an answer, But I do have an answer. There was

746
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 2: a girl I dated briefly in high school who loved

747
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 2: that verve pipe song, of course, and I might have

748
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 2: had some.

749
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 1: And I might have had some of the verve pipe,

750
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: if you know what I mean.

751
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 2: You stole my joke. You stole my joke. I was

752
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 2: gonna say, I might have had some verve pipe when

753
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 2: we hung out. So for that reason, I will lean

754
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 2: towards the verb pipe.

755
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: Yes, all right, thank you very much. The acoustic version

756
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: of the verb pipe Freshman, which was a regular on

757
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: the radio of one oh four point one in Hertford,

758
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: great alternative station for years. Luke, that that is the

759
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: boss version. I'm gonna go with the verb pipe, not

760
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: that you care, all right, Luke, Let's keep it running

761
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: on down this card. You told me not to sleep

762
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: on this co main event, the middle wapout, so I

763
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: did a little research. Luke. I'm not gonna tell you

764
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 1: I know how to pronounce this Brazilian fellow's name, but

765
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: he is that guy with the throat tat, Luke, and

766
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: he is undefeated. Could you hit me with a real

767
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: time pronunciation of this?

768
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna do my best, which is probably bad.

769
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 2: My understanding is it's Kyo boholio two rs in the

770
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 2: middle would be an h Boholio.

771
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: I would go with Choo as the first name. That's incorrect, right.

772
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 2: It's not Chow because there is a guy who I

773
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 2: used to call him Kyo Terra, but and I found

774
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 2: out it was too r so that it's Kyle Teha.

775
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 2: But I knew him from jiu jitsu. Kyo Tehi is

776
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 2: actually an unbelievable competitor, So it is Kyo. And I'm

777
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 2: sure I'm saying that like a gringo, but it is Kyo.

778
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: Luke, You'll be taking on thirty five year old Arman Petrosian,

779
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: the Armenian born kickboxer that I'm sure is on your

780
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: radar for obvious reasons. Here, Luke, let's talk about this

781
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: fight you see in Big Time Action. You're seeing an

782
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: opportunity here for for one or both. But is this

783
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: more about finding out if Brahole bra hole, borhole.

784
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 2: Chuck dude, dude, this guy and Andre Dicarico are gonna

785
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 2: beat your ass and I'm gonna kill it and put

786
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 2: it on TikTok.

787
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: Already hates the media enough, Luke, burrah Hole. He's got

788
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: an aggressive throat ted not Vanderford level, but it does

789
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: say I've either done time or I'm you know, willing

790
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: to scratch your skin off of your face with the

791
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: right amount of drugs. Is this fight about finding out

792
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: if he is for real or does he have an

793
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: Eastern European hammer waiting for him?

794
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: Luke, this is an interesting one. Petrosian, as you mentioned,

795
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 2: is a little bit older, but dude, he is such

796
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: an aggressive striker. I mean, listen to these numbers. Strikes

797
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 2: landing per minute seven point five that is extremely high,

798
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 2: and then strike's absorbed three point thirty nine. Now that's

799
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: not low, but that's pretty average, and the differential there

800
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 2: is extraordinary, and he can walk through damage as well.

801
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: Kyle Bohelio is much more well rounded. Though he can

802
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 2: he can throw down if he needs to. He also

803
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 2: has a positive striking differential. By the way, he barely

804
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 2: gets hit one point seven strikes per minute absorbed. That's

805
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 2: super low. Takedown defence is decently high, takedown accuracy is

806
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 2: pretty high. He actually goes for about two takedowns per

807
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes as well. So this is to me a

808
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 2: question of how much he can change that fight on

809
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 2: the feet. It's not like he's out gunned. That's not

810
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 2: really true. But I don't think he can beat Petrosian

811
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 2: at his game doing that. I just feel like that

812
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 2: guy is so rangy, so powerful. He's just got a

813
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 2: real kickboxing sensibility about everything that he does. I don't think.

814
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 2: I don't think Bohalio can stand with that. But if

815
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 2: he could take him down and hold him down or

816
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 2: at least you know, find the back or whatever, then

817
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 2: that really is going to put a test about Patrosian's limits.

818
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 2: Patrosian has showed in the stand up department he's got

819
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 2: a lot to offer, right, he can do a lot there,

820
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 2: but it's also true that we haven't seen the full,

821
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 2: well roundedness of his game really pushed. I think Bohalio

822
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 2: is going to give us a little bit more of

823
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: a sense about where each guy's strength and the weaknesses

824
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 2: more fully lie.

825
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: Uh Luke Baralio. He does have one loss, so I

826
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: did wrong with myself in real time. It came in

827
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: a second pro bout, but he won a first round

828
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 1: stoppage in his Dana White Contender Series debut, which was

829
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, and then took a technical decision Luke

830
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: in his full UFC debut against god See Omar Gadziev.

831
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 1: I think, Luke, he kind of looks like a like

832
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: a younger Paulo Coasta. Besides the neck tat, am I

833
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: wrong on that?

834
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 2: The neck tat is intense. I have to say that's

835
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 2: an intense.

836
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if he likes red wine,

837
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: but but he kind of has that look and maybe

838
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: a little bit of that fighting spirit too.

839
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,760
Speaker 2: Luke, all right, yeah, I mean I also drink red

840
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 2: wine the nights before fights, but not the fights I'm

841
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 2: getting in. Yes, yes, I would say that his tatt

842
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 2: he's also got the one on his arm here too.

843
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 2: That's like written English. That's also like it's like it's like,

844
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 2: you know, voter die or something. It's like some other

845
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 2: intense phrase. Hey man, listen, if it helps him and

846
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 2: he likes it. The tattoo is he didn't get the

847
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 2: tattoo being like, I hope Luke and Brian love these tattoos. Yeah, yeah,

848
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 2: he got him for himself and whoever else. But they

849
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 2: are intense.

850
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,760
Speaker 1: Bro. Well, look his second UFC fight. He's potentially if

851
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: this holds up based on the pacing here as the

852
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: co main event, which Wikipedia has it at the moment

853
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: that shows you there's a push here that shows you

854
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: we're gonna find out who Barralgio is. Lukey enters as

855
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: a Miatus two thirty betting favorite petrosian Us one ninety

856
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: looking forward to it, Luke, Hell, yeah, okay, this should

857
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: be This should be some good theater to find out

858
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: what we have here. And moving on the card, Luke,

859
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: I'll also dead wrong myself. I'm being told by our

860
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: viewers that said Nermaga Medov, although from Daugistan, is not

861
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: a member of the Hibib lineage here.

862
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 2: That's right. He is not. If they have the same

863
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 2: last name, and they've been called brothers or cousins at times,

864
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 2: but I believe they just share. Listen. I'm sure at

865
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 2: some point their family lineage overlaps, but he's not like

866
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 2: you know, abdul Ma Nap in the family type.

867
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 1: Indeed, this will be abandon wape bout against the shredded

868
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: as shit. As you mentioned, thirty seven year old Douglas

869
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: Silva Deon Drod loved the styles clash here. Luke loved

870
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: the styles clash and when you look at the odds

871
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: at the moment, minus three fifty for Nermaga Madoff plus

872
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: two eighty for the Brazilian. Who do you like in

873
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: this one?

874
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: Probably Nuruga Madov. I think that Deondra Silver Deondroge is

875
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 2: certainly powerful and certainly resilient, which he showed in his

876
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 2: most recent fight, But I just feel like the again,

877
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: I always go back to it. This isn't always true,

878
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: but in general, in general, skills win fights, and I

879
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 2: just feel like number GOA Madov has has more ways

880
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 2: to win this contest. But I recognize, dude, that guy

881
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 2: Silveradon Rodge is a goddamn powerhouse. Well wait till you

882
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 2: see this, dude. If you guys haven't seen him before,

883
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 2: he again, pound for pound, maybe the most muscular guy,

884
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 2: or at least the most shredded guy in all of UFC.

885
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: He's won three or four sins that lost to Peter

886
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: Jan on Jan's early UFC rise. One of those wins

887
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: Luke against a former champion, the Baron. But really, you

888
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: don't get a lot of credit these days for Hennen

889
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: Barral victory since he what do he lose like eight

890
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: of his last ten to end his career.

891
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 2: Luke, I mean, unbelievable, had not paid attention, but it

892
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 2: was a precipitous drop off.

893
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, as precipitous drops goes. That one was wet a shit, Yes, Luke,

894
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: you know I'm into As I mentioned on Wednesday, Look,

895
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: it could be winner go home for a few people.

896
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 1: Maybe Antonina Chechenko against Courtney Casey here, maybe Cynthia Calvillo, Luke,

897
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 1: who remember when Dana White said she the next Rousey?

898
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 1: She really needs a win here riding a two fight

899
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: skit at flyweight against Nina Nunas, who also you could argue,

900
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: really needs a win. So Luke, maybe we'll see some

901
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 1: desperation fueled you know, fun and games here this weekend.

902
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 2: Big test for both Nina Nona's. You know, obviously I

903
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 2: had shown flashes of she had a great run right

904
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 2: before having a kid. We'll see how she looks more recently.

905
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: Isn't giving birth a much more polite way to say it?

906
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 1: And you're like, you know, till that kid robbed her

907
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: of her career.

908
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 2: It's not even that it just takes time to get back.

909
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 2: It takes time, Like you know, your wife's that kids,

910
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 2: it takes time to get back, even for normal conditions.

911
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 1: So I have a rule that when you're talking about

912
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: your own kid, it's your child, Luke, Okay, it's your offspring.

913
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: A kid is like that dirtbag kid from on the Road, you.

914
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: Know what I mean, Like Dennis the Menace. Yeah. I

915
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 2: don't mean it that way obviously, but but big doings

916
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 2: here are either way for this division, we'll see.

917
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm with you on that car is overall

918
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: not that great to be clear. All right, But how

919
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 1: about this? Uh? What was he from the Dana White

920
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,720
Speaker 1: Contender series? Ricky Tercios made a lot of noise last.

921
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 2: Yeary was from Ultimate Fighter, if.

922
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 1: Memory serves, Yeah, one of the two.

923
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 2: He's I'm wrong, I'm wrong. He's he fought on Dana

924
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 2: White content.

925
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: And he's all action and he's fun as shit. He'll

926
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,760
Speaker 1: be taking on for us as a hobby's little brother here, Luke, alaman,

927
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: I'm on.

928
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 2: Oh wait, maybe he did both? Uh No, I'm in's

929
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 2: a hobby.

930
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm in a highman. Let me get that correct. Okay,

931
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: thank you. They're saying he was on both.

932
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 2: Luke, Yeah, he was on both.

933
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 1: All right? You got anything else to say about this card?

934
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 2: Luke? No, we should move on so I can keep

935
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 2: my voice.

936
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Well, we'll be very judicious in that regard.

937
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: Back to the rundown topic number two, Luke, how about

938
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: this out of the UFC news cycle, Michael Chandler, who's

939
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: really fighting to stay in this title fight and to

940
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: get a fight with Dustin Pourier. When we saw UFC

941
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,479
Speaker 1: two seventy six over the weekend, he went on Instagram though,

942
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: and pitched an interesting idea, a vacant title fight. Here's

943
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,439
Speaker 1: the quote, Hey, Charles Olavera, do your thing, bro wait

944
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 1: till Connor comes back. You deserve it. On a couple

945
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: fight win streak, smashing through everybody, Why don't you sit

946
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: out wait for Connor to come back. I'll keep the

947
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: division warm, I'll keep the division going. I'll fight Islam

948
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: Mahachev next. I'll fight Islam for the title, and then

949
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: whenever you get your so called super fight, do your thing,

950
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: get it out of your system, and then you can

951
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: come back to our division. See you at the top, Luke.

952
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: Mahachev would respond on Twitter with easy money, title is

953
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: the goal, no matter who. Let's go, Luke, we have

954
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: been kind of complaining, bantering on about when the hell

955
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: is Mahachev gonna get this freaking title shot? What are

956
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: we doing here? Bro? Does this fix it? Is this

957
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: a good workaround? If Oliver the recognized champion without the belt,

958
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: if he ends up getting Connor, which it seems like

959
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: he really wants, is this the right countermatch making?

960
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 2: After that? Well, it's like when he says why don't

961
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,720
Speaker 2: you sit out? And it's like, because he's the best

962
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 2: guy in the division, Like, that's why you don't sit out.

963
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 2: But I'll say this, if if OLIVERA is so committed

964
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 2: to getting the Connor fight for the reasons that makes

965
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,720
Speaker 2: sense for his life, and he actually won't fight Islam,

966
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 2: if that's actually a thing, then yeah, I don't really mind.

967
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 2: But I want to be very clear about this. If

968
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:44,240
Speaker 2: if OLIVERA is in any way consenting to a fight

969
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 2: with Makachev, and maybe he's playing hardball about fighting in

970
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 2: Abu Dabi or whatever, but he you know, otherwise we'll

971
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 2: fight him that I don't have even the slightest degree

972
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 2: of interest. My interest hinges one hundred percent and strictly

973
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 2: as a function of is OLIVERA will link to fight

974
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 2: Islam next and within this year. Yeah, if the answer

975
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 2: to that is yes, I don't give a shit about anything.

976
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 2: Else where are you?

977
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: Well? I got some problems with the scenario, Like I

978
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: like Michael Chandler always be an opportunistic and he goes

979
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: after it. The boss is like that too, rightfully so,

980
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: but you know, if OLIVERA, who doesn't have the title,

981
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: we have to remember that whether you feel like that

982
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: was deserve it or not. With the wait situation. Given

983
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 1: DC's you know, come and clean, wouldn't Olivera versus McGregor

984
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: have some form of the title at Steak as well? Luke,

985
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: you think Connor McGregor is going to take a non

986
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: title bout against OLIVERA on his comeback fight.

987
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like they could do the reward there,

988
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 2: so wait, So what they could do is, at least

989
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 2: in theory, they could do interim title in one of

990
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 2: the other two bouts. They could do Islam and versus

991
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 2: Chandler for the interim or the regular one, and then

992
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 2: do Connor versus Olivera for the interim or regular one.

993
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: I hate that abuse of the system when dude, why

994
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: can't you just make the co main event Islam versus Chandler? Then,

995
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: you know, is it that hard doesn't have to be

996
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 1: a title at stake.

997
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 2: You know, it's not that hard. But that's listen, this

998
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 2: is what I'm saying. You can only get on board.

999
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 2: And I'm not Matna Chandler for shooting a shot like

1000
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 2: that's you know, you gotta see what you can do

1001
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 2: and if it works out, why would you not advocate

1002
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 2: for something that's clearly in your favor. So that's fine,

1003
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 2: but that doesn't mean the rest of us have to

1004
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 2: go along with it. And so his scenario doesn't make sense,

1005
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,760
Speaker 2: except as I've indicated, if OLIVERA is just like Adamant,

1006
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 2: I'm not fighting Islam, in which case, what I would

1007
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 2: say is if dude, if OLIVERA, who kind of presumes

1008
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 2: that he is the champion, we all kind of view

1009
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 2: him sort of halfway or perhaps fully in that way,

1010
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,240
Speaker 2: If you're straight up saying I'm not going to fight Islam,

1011
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 2: then yeah, you shouldn't be fighting for the title, right Yeah, Like,

1012
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 2: if you're that guy, then Islam is next, and you

1013
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 2: just have to accept that you're.

1014
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: Damn right on that. First of all, I agree with

1015
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: you heavily. Let's play a little little game here. You know,

1016
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: I love this game. We do a lot of matchmaking

1017
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: on the lightweight division in general anyway, because it's where

1018
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: the most stars. Pay per view brands tend to congreg

1019
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: eight these days, almost like welter weight in boxing. So,

1020
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 1: Luke Thomas, what if I told you that mcmaynard, Chaunce Shelby,

1021
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: Dana White, they they invited you into the war room.

1022
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: There you got all the rankings on the walls, all

1023
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 1: the cards coming up, you get all that info. I

1024
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: don't know if the Nelk boys are there doing coke

1025
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: in the court, I don't know. I don't even know

1026
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: who does coke anymore. Luke, Okay, not me, I'll say

1027
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: you that much. That's an eighties drug, Luke, Okay, I'm a.

1028
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 2: Child of the eighties light drug.

1029
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 1: No, that's a seventies drug. Come on, bro, come on. So,

1030
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, be a lot cooler if you did, Luke. So,

1031
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: here's the deal. What if McK maynard when he sits

1032
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: you down and goes, here's the deal. We're gonna force

1033
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: all Lavera to fight Islam Mahchev for the title next,

1034
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: the vacant title, because it's what's fair. It's what it's

1035
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 1: it's the next fight. So that's in Stone. How do

1036
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: you book the rest of the top ten in and

1037
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: the bigger names around that. Considering we got poori A. Gachee, Chandler, McGregor,

1038
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: Tony Ferguson, you know you also have these rising names.

1039
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 1: Phazibe if he wins gam Rock coming on, Benil dear

1040
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: you still out there, Saru and coming on, Dan Hooker

1041
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 1: not dead, Jalen Turner coming on this division rules, Luke,

1042
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 1: how are you booking the next six months? If I'm

1043
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: telling you, Mahachev gets the next call.

1044
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 2: So I would love to see Turner versus this mcgool

1045
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 2: lov number one. Would absolutely love to see it. Couldn't

1046
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 2: wait to see it. I would do Chandler versus Parier.

1047
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 1: H Now, let me corrupt you. Does that give the

1048
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 1: person the winner a title shot? In your eyes? In

1049
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: terms of the progression, it could, It could.

1050
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 2: I would do gam Rot versus gae Chee, and then

1051
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 2: I would do darry USh versus Oh, yeah, I would do.

1052
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 2: I know there's a lot of good fights you can

1053
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 2: still do. I would do darry USh versus the winner

1054
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 2: of this weekend's main event. So either physive or RDA

1055
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 2: you could do. You could do McGregor Tony.

1056
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say that kind of makes McGregor

1057
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: Tony the fight, and Luke, it is the fight.

1058
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 2: It is right now, it is, and then you could

1059
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 2: do and then you could do sarr Yuki in versus

1060
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 2: RDA or the loser of this weekend's main event. How

1061
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 2: about that?

1062
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm in. I'm in big time, because look, there

1063
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: are many scenarios in which RDA can lose Saturday Night's

1064
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: main event in a very respectable way and be the

1065
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 1: perfect test if he's still trying to you know, linger

1066
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: in the in the top ten, which he's never stopped

1067
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,240
Speaker 1: trying to get into title position up to this point.

1068
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: I like it really exactly how you laid it out. Look,

1069
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: the more I think about it, even though I've thrown

1070
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: out about seventy eight configurations involving McGregor's comeback, you know,

1071
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: in the past few months alone, Dude, Tony, it's kind

1072
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 1: of it's just perfect. It's better than the Cowboy comeback

1073
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: fight in so many ways. It's perfect, Luke.

1074
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,439
Speaker 2: There's so many good fights you can make. And I also,

1075
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, I know he called for so

1076
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 2: this is hardly some like genius matchmaking. But dude, Gamrot,

1077
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 2: you know he beat sar Yuki in who didn't have

1078
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 2: a big ranking, but given how fucking difficult that was

1079
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,959
Speaker 2: and how impressive his late push was in that fight,

1080
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 2: he should get a big fight against the big name.

1081
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 2: I want to see the new generation of guys with

1082
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 2: names are largely impossible to pronounce correctly beat all the

1083
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 2: guys whose names we can pronounce. They like, there's something

1084
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 2: to be said for this new generation who are coming

1085
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 2: through that the you know, let's match him up against

1086
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 2: not just each other, which we saw as much a

1087
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 2: where we get some of these older bros. Let's see

1088
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,919
Speaker 2: what happens there. Maybe these new guys are, you know,

1089
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 2: who everything we think they are. Maybe these old guys

1090
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,399
Speaker 2: got a little something something for him, but either way

1091
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 2: we need to find out. I love matching those as

1092
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 2: much as we can too.

1093
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: It's gonna be high theater for sure. But let me

1094
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 1: bring up the two quick wildcards here, and it's related

1095
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 1: to the news cycle. Not in our rundown Luke, but

1096
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: the champion at Featherwick, Alexandervolkonowski revealing on social media. I

1097
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: think he put out some X rays too. He suffered

1098
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: a broken thumb and the second round of the trilogy

1099
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: about against Max never showed it right put him away

1100
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: in a dominant, one sided decision. We know of his

1101
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: interests to fight for the lightweight title. We also know

1102
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: it could be very likely that Max moves up. I mean,

1103
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: you know, we haven't heard any concrete news either way,

1104
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: but Max could very well crashed the party of that

1105
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 1: matchmaking session you just had. Is the right move now

1106
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: to tell Volkanovski we love you, bro, but it's too

1107
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:09,439
Speaker 1: crowded on this end right now?

1108
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 2: I would I would say this, like, I know he

1109
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 2: wants an immediate title shot, and I think that is

1110
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,919
Speaker 2: too crowded. I would say, unless he's willing to wait,

1111
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 2: we can give you a top contender, but not a

1112
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 2: title shot. And now he probably says, a, well, I

1113
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 2: don't want that, but dude, they don't even have There

1114
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 2: isn't even a crown champion right now. I mean, yeah,

1115
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 2: it would be silly to have him move up, right,

1116
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 2: And I realize he has to heal from the injury

1117
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 2: and everything, but uh yeah, if it's if it's title

1118
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 2: shot or bust, then I would say he has to

1119
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:39,399
Speaker 2: wait a little bit for sure.

1120
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 1: What is he out? Is it twelve weeks the volcanovsics

1121
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: at least.

1122
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:44,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, at least, so he's out, you know, he's out

1123
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 2: for three months. So let's say all of July, August, September,

1124
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 2: about October, November ish, you can probably fight December or

1125
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 2: January or something like that.

1126
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: It's good, dude. I we always start to bring up

1127
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 1: Connor when we talk about this, but like a lot

1128
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: of these decisions are going to be based on what

1129
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: they do with Connor. Do they give them a Tony

1130
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 1: or a Max or you know, in a rematcher, do

1131
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: they give him the freaking title shot. Also, it's all replay, Luke,

1132
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 1: It's it's all freaking in play. Everybody's waiting for Connor.

1133
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 2: Also, what they could do is they could give him

1134
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 2: the Tony fight, but then do it at one seventy, right,

1135
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 2: because Tony's fought as high as one seventy before. And yeah,

1136
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 2: so there's a couple of ways they could make this work.

1137
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 2: I mean, Serronie obviously have fought at one to seventy

1138
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 2: for a long time, but he was really at one

1139
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 2: fifty five. Well, you know, he was both, but you

1140
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 2: know he fought ably in both weight classes, and so

1141
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 2: they could make that little twist as well. Who's a

1142
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 2: one to fifty five or who'd be willing to fight

1143
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 2: at one seventy? Things like that could change the direction too.

1144
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and by the way, if Max does decide to

1145
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: go to lightweight, instantly match him up with any of

1146
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 1: those action heroes that we just mentioned and you make

1147
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: a big pay per view main event. Can't wait to

1148
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: see all Right, interesting development here in topic three, Luke,

1149
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: I'm sure you don't care, but I tend to care

1150
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 1: about stuff involving You want a young Jcheck, yes, the

1151
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: retired you'll want a champion former straw king queen. Excuse me?

1152
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 1: Five title defenses can't be wrong, Luke. She did an

1153
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: interview with one the SHMO shout out to our Las

1154
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 1: Vegas friend there in which she was asked, JJ, you

1155
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: know who is your women's MMA Mount Rushmore? Who's on it?

1156
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: So here's the quote that ya wanna gave to the SHMO.

1157
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: Ronda Ralsey number one, me meaning young j Check and

1158
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: Amanda Nunas who became the first champion in two different

1159
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: weight classes, so definitely, and Valentina as well. So I

1160
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: put Ronda, Amanda Valentina and then me end quote. Luke,

1161
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: it's gotta be a somewhat slow news day to get

1162
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: you would agree to do this shit, But I love

1163
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 1: the shit. So, Luke, when I look at the women's

1164
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,240
Speaker 1: em first of all, when I look at a potential

1165
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 1: mount rushmore everything you want to say, I don't think

1166
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: you can disagree with correct.

1167
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 2: Uh everything.

1168
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: I don't know about everything, Okay, but she's got Ronda

1169
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: Amanda Valentina on Jouanna. You could sub one, maybe two out,

1170
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 1: but that's still a damn near a perfect four. But

1171
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: when I try to make my own, this thing keeps

1172
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: getting in the way. Tell me if I'm crazy, because

1173
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 1: everybody's got to be like, oh, it's got to be

1174
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: Rond Rossey number one. Right. But Luke, I feel not

1175
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:15,359
Speaker 1: her fault, but I feel that everything that Ronda accomplished

1176
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: pioneer wise and star wise will never be touched. I mean,

1177
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: she's a phenomenon, but I think her resume and some

1178
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: of her in cage accompliments accomplishments won't age the same

1179
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: way because it was set such an early point in

1180
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: the evolution of women's MMA and the and the you know,

1181
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: the experience level and lack of dynamic skills from a

1182
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: lot of the people she was defending your title against

1183
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 1: in fighting. You could tell me that's unfair. I'll give

1184
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 1: you an opportunity, But I almost think you have to

1185
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: look at it as tell me your criteria is a

1186
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: mount rushmore of Women's MMA, a mixture of everything, whereas

1187
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: Ronda's got to be there. But if it's just who

1188
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,919
Speaker 1: are the four greatest female fighters I've ever seen? Luke,

1189
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 1: this could be a fill of Friday hipster hot take shit.

1190
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: But it could be Amanda Cyborg Valentina and you wanna

1191
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: just the same without Rousey on there? Am I being crazy? Luke?

1192
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 2: How do you mean the problem? The problem with these

1193
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 2: games is that they force you to tell a story

1194
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 2: in a way that you can't right. In other words,

1195
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 2: imagine if you told the story of Women's MMA more

1196
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 2: fully and completely you would You could, you could include

1197
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 2: whoever was relevant. You wouldn't have to pare it down

1198
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 2: to four names. In fact, the story of Women's MA

1199
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,919
Speaker 2: cannot be told in four names. One of the names

1200
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 2: you've left off. And I realized this is going to

1201
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 2: sound like a hipster pick, but dude, it's not. It

1202
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 2: is important for the story of.

1203
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: Women's of m You're gonna say for Jumi, I know you.

1204
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 2: Are, Yeah, Magoomi Fujii. Dude, it's not for Jumi. It's Magomi. Correct.

1205
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm not doing you.

1206
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 2: Look at her record, it doesn't stand the test of

1207
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 2: time given the era in which she competed in. But

1208
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 2: like her rise is super important to understand both women's

1209
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 2: of m in Japan, women's or general.

1210
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: It doesn't cut the top four under any of those

1211
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: scenarios I laid out. So this is a little hipster

1212
00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: of you to bring her.

1213
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 2: Due this trying to point out it's like you're talking

1214
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 2: to like, who's on the mount Rushmore? Now, are those

1215
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 2: the four most important presidents we've ever had? That's certainly

1216
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 2: very debatable. It's very debatable. So the point I'm trying

1217
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 2: to make is, if you're trying to pick four to

1218
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 2: tell the most of the story, right, you got to

1219
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 2: put Cyborg on there. You got to put Amanda Nunez

1220
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 2: on there. I do think you have to put Rawcie

1221
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 2: on there just in terms of changing the game. But

1222
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 2: by the way, dude, like women's boxing is starting to

1223
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 2: heat up a little bit, and I wonder if Rawsie

1224
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 2: doing what she did in MMA and how much it

1225
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 2: heated up. And by the way, she of course is

1226
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 2: not the only ingredient there, but a big one. If

1227
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 2: that woke up people to women's MMA's potential, now that's

1228
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 2: waking up people to women's boxing's potential. Just some kind

1229
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 2: of argument to be made there potentially for sure, for

1230
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 2: sure and so like that is.

1231
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: What you're saying. Nobody will ever dent her impact. And

1232
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: she had a Mike Tyson like run where it was like,

1233
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 1: I don't even care who she's fighting, I have to

1234
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: see it. But you, even though you want to left

1235
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 1: out Cyborg, I think Cyborg should be in the top four.

1236
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 1: Isn't Valentina a better fighter all time? And you could

1237
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: argue has accomplished in terms of in cage just as much,

1238
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 1: if not more than Rhonda not impact in.

1239
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 2: Cage, Luke, Yes, in cage she's done more, but an

1240
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 2: impact she is infinitesimally much smaller.

1241
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 1: So again, criteria answer the question. Then at the end

1242
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: of the day, what is your criteria?

1243
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 2: Okay, but like the criteria is like who would I

1244
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 2: put on Mount Rushmore? I just put on motherfuckers? I like, like,

1245
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 2: you can't tell the story of women's MMA with just

1246
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 2: four names. It's not possible. You cannot do it. So

1247
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 2: the exercise is, I get we do it for shows

1248
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 2: like this, and it's kind of fun. What I would

1249
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 2: say is somebody who changed the game the most, either

1250
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 2: through what they did inside or outside, but you have

1251
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 2: to have a little bit of both. I think that's

1252
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 2: what I would say, So I might put the last

1253
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 2: name as you wanna to be honest with you, uh

1254
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 2: over Valentina and I realize Valentina has done more in Cage,

1255
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 2: but I don't know if she's as important to the

1256
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 2: overall story of now she might end up surpassing that,

1257
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 2: which case i'd have to switch it out. As of

1258
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 2: today July eighth, twenty twenty two, I'd argue that you

1259
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 2: want I was a little bit more significant, both in

1260
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 2: terms of well not more as a champion. She has

1261
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 2: done her role was spectacular, but in strawweight, you know,

1262
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 2: she obviously has an incredible run, and outside of the game,

1263
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 2: it wasn't like she was a huge star on the

1264
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 2: ways that Rolsi was, although I would say more than Valentina.

1265
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 2: But again I made this point when she retired, she

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Speaker 2: was something of a torch bearer in that post Rolsey

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01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 2: absence for fans, for someone to carry the game. I

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01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 2: do think that should be noted personally.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's list is going to be different, the criteria is

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Speaker 1: going to be different. I've got Cheyenne for listmas as

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Speaker 1: the fifth head in this conversation. Look, I don't have

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01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 1: to explain myself to you, but I do think you

1273
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 1: are looking at it more of probably how most people

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01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 1: do the story of MMA or the you know, the

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01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: accomplishments mixed with the fame pioneership. So obviously nobody's touching

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01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: Rousey in that if that criteria has had over the

1277
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 1: entire history of the UFC, not MMA, but the UFC.

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Speaker 1: Would you also agree that Rhonda's face should be on there,

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01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 1: maybe along with Dana Brock Anderson Silva. I mean, you

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01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: could play with those four, but under that way of

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01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 1: looking at it, you could make a firm argument that

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Speaker 1: Rowsey needs to be on the mount rushmore of the

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Speaker 1: entire UFCCA street.

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Speaker 2: Luke, Yeah, you probably could. You Again, you can't tell

1285
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 2: the story with just four names, and it's hard to

1286
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 2: know who the four most important are, but you can

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01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 2: absolutely cobble together a case where she is included and

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01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 2: not sound crazy. Yes, I think you could do that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right? Do you does Travis Hoppa Brown Dash

1290
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 1: ROWSI ever fight again?

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01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 2: I doubt it. I doubt it.

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01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 1: Could you see him going to BKFC and like fighting

1293
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:50,919
Speaker 1: Hector Lombard or something, Luke, I don't see.

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Speaker 2: He took a lot of damage too. You know, he

1295
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 2: took a lot of damage too. And if you don't

1296
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 2: need to take that damage, why the hell would you?

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01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 1: You know, they seem to be making enough money to

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01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 1: not need to, Luke, so out to them. They did

1299
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 1: beat the game. Let's give Rosey your credit. She didn't

1300
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 1: handle the media well. She didn't beat the game, walked

1301
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 1: away double their triple their stardom. Like she seems to

1302
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 1: be doing well, Luke.

1303
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 2: She seems to be kicking out. Isn't she back in

1304
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 2: wwegan Didn't I see that on my timeline?

1305
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 1: Yes, that is true. She came back at WrestleMania. But

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01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. All right, let's go to topic

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01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 1: for Luke news. Update on the UFC sphere, the UFC

1308
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,919
Speaker 1: London about that had us pretty damn interested. Darren Till

1309
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 1: taking on fellow miniweight middleweight. Excuse me, Jack Hermanson is

1310
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 1: now off Till pulling out with an undisclosed injury. Chris

1311
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 1: Curtis sliding in looking to mister all action. They're looking

1312
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 1: to make some noise against her Manson. But Luke, given

1313
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 1: Till's incredible ups and downs up against he still seems

1314
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 1: to be a huge star. Ar mean, he still seems

1315
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 1: to get preferential treatment. But his career has been going

1316
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 1: in the right direction for a while, even with the

1317
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 1: new bromance ship with one Hamzat Chimayev. Is this a

1318
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 1: big deal or is it just wait another three months

1319
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 1: then we'll finally see him back? What do you mean

1320
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: meaning there hasn't been a lot of great Darren Til headlines,

1321
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Luke. Oh, I see these themes.

1322
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:10,919
Speaker 1: It seems to be falling apart, is what I'm saying, Luke.

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01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,479
Speaker 2: I don't know what to make of till situation without

1324
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 2: getting more information. I do think that partnering with MMA

1325
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 2: All Stars and the way that he did and training

1326
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 2: with Hamza and a lot of those other guys up

1327
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 2: there is nothing but a good thing for him, you know.

1328
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 2: And obviously he had to get right with the weight class,

1329
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 2: going from one seventy one eighty five. But listen, he

1330
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 2: was heavily hyped, probably over hyped in terms of what

1331
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 2: the promotional machine was doing for him and relative to

1332
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 2: his elite level readiness. Obviously he does have some elite skills,

1333
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 2: but the overall game itself is still in development. He's

1334
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 2: still very young. How old is Darren til be twent

1335
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 2: You know he's getting there, but he's still in his twenties.

1336
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 2: There's still some time to see how far he can go.

1337
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 2: To me. The bigger story here is, well is Darren Hill?

1338
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 2: Where is he in his career? He's coming where he's

1339
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 2: going to me? The story is Chris Curtis, dude, because

1340
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 2: when he lost on the Contender Series, great me, if

1341
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 2: I'm wrong, he not only won that fight on the

1342
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 2: Contender Series, he won via stoppage. If I'm not mistaken,

1343
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 2: Yes he did. He stopped Sean Lally in the third

1344
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 2: round with a KO. Now, the rest of that fight

1345
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 2: wasn't necessarily all that great, but he won, and he

1346
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 2: won via stoppage, and then didn't get a callback to

1347
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 2: for the UFC, and I had him on my radio

1348
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 2: show like the Dex Day or you know, a couple

1349
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 2: of days following and he was like, Yeah, I'm done, dude.

1350
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 2: I'm tired of being broke. I'm tired of not finding

1351
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 2: a way to advance, Like all of this sucks. I

1352
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 2: don't want to do this anymore. And then, you know,

1353
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 2: eventually came back and had some ups and downs. But

1354
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,439
Speaker 2: since going to the UFC, he's done nothing but win.

1355
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 2: And against Pierra he couldn't get the stoppage, but against

1356
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 2: Brendan Allen, against Phil hawesye, he punched their lights out.

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Speaker 2: The story of this to me is that Chris Curtis

1358
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 2: didn't have any of the promotional benefits that obviously Darren

1359
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 2: Til got. I'm not mad at Till forgetting it, but

1360
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 2: he hasn't been able to actualize on it. Curtis got

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01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 2: zip of those. And yes, this is fortuitous that he

1362
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 2: was able to fill in for an opponent who had

1363
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 2: fallen out, but he took this fight. It's entirely winnable

1364
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 2: against Jack her Manson, and it's just really nice to

1365
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 2: see the business reorient itself, however slowly. You know, they

1366
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 2: always say the wheels of justice grind slowly, but they

1367
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:18,919
Speaker 2: fucking grind man, and they finally have oriented themselves around

1368
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 2: at Chris Curtis, who fans seem to like, who is talented,

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01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 2: who has a lot of ability, and was never never

1370
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 2: the favored son of the promotion. Good for Chris Curtis, man.

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Speaker 2: I really hope he goes out there and does his thing.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, big opportunity. Let's see if he could break through

1373
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 1: with that. But you know, you can't overlook it though,

1374
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 1: with Till lost four or five, yes, all to elites.

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01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 1: You know, one of them a title fight which you

1376
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 1: got stopped by Woodley, but lost four or five. And

1377
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 1: look the fight before that, there's Stephen Thompson, you know,

1378
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 1: unanimous decision, dude, that was very contested in hind in

1379
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 1: my mind, in hindsight, I don't know. I'm not a

1380
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 1: Till hater. Do I think he's a great He's a

1381
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 1: Trolley's hilarious. I want Till to be a big thing,

1382
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 1: but I got questions, especially at middleweight, Luke, if he

1383
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 1: can do this against the elite competition. Maybe the tremaia

1384
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 1: of camp, you know, new teammate, new style, new whatever

1385
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 1: will help him in the cage. We still haven't seen

1386
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 1: that yet. He's only fought once in each of the

1387
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 1: last two years. But I hope he comes back, Luke,

1388
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 1: and I hope he can put it back together, because

1389
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 1: there's a lot there. You know, there's a lot there.

1390
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 1: But it's been it's been under achievement. It's pretty much

1391
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 1: across the board.

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01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 2: He's got a lot of work to do. And I'll see,

1393
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 2: you know, he's had chronic injuries as well. It's not

1394
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 2: just underperformance in the case, although obviously the injuries can

1395
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 2: be related to that. Yeah. Sure, I mean there's a

1396
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 2: lot that has to happen. There's still plenty of time,

1397
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 2: let's be very clear about that. But you know, the

1398
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:43,439
Speaker 2: darre until Express has come to a halt. And while

1399
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 2: it'd be very premature to say it can't get going again,

1400
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 2: there are some questions at this point about a ultimate

1401
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:52,439
Speaker 2: upside and b where if it's going to get going again,

1402
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 2: shouldn't that process already be in motion again. I do

1403
01:07:56,400 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 2: think the change to all Stars is key, but we

1404
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 2: need to start seeing some progress soon ish. If he

1405
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 2: doesn't really begin to like make some progress in twenty

1406
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 2: twenty three, I think then there are some problems for sure.

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Speaker 1: Big good, Yeah, Yeah, you're right, you're right. Let's see

1408
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 1: what happens, all right, Our fifth topic, Luke, looking at

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01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:19,760
Speaker 1: the weekend hits the Squared Circle. No, not pro wrestling here,

1410
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 1: boxing the sweet science. Luke, And how about this Showtime

1411
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:26,680
Speaker 1: triple header? It goes down this Saturday night only on

1412
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 1: Showtime San Antonio the Alamodome, a triple header headlined nine

1413
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 1: pm Eastern by the WBC Featherweight Championship. Luke, Mark Magsio

1414
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 1: really really is making some moves here, upset Gary Russell

1415
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 1: Junior to end his long reign. Here has the WBC strap,

1416
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 1: twenty seven years old, twenty four and oh from the Philippines.

1417
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 1: Rightfully so, because of his connections and image here, he

1418
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:55,640
Speaker 1: is being looked at as not the next Mannipacio, but

1419
01:08:56,200 --> 01:09:00,040
Speaker 1: maybe the next young, vibrant Filipino fighter to get that

1420
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 1: hungry fan base to give him that push. He's got

1421
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 1: Freddy Roach as a trainer, and he's going in there

1422
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:09,479
Speaker 1: against unbeaten Ray Vargas, who is much taller and longer

1423
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 1: than him. Is moving up from one twenty two where

1424
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:14,640
Speaker 1: Ray Vargus, by the way thirty three and oh I

1425
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 1: think held the title down there beat big names. He's

1426
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 1: coming up. This fight has a lot to be desired

1427
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 1: for in terms of potential action and contrast and all that.

1428
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 1: But Luke Maxio definitely got our attention at the level

1429
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 1: where it's like, let's not try to do the next

1430
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 1: Pacquiao thing, but maybe the next big Filipino thing. Dude,

1431
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 1: he's hungry, he's got pop. It is front row seating.

1432
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 1: I gotta see what happens next on his rise.

1433
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 2: This is a tough fight though, Like from what I've

1434
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 2: seen on tape, Man Vargas is a handful. I'm correct

1435
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong. This is also a mandatory, right

1436
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 2: I believe. So if this is a mandatory, boy, sometimes

1437
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,640
Speaker 2: these mandatories they're not all that impressive, this one, is it.

1438
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:55,560
Speaker 2: I favor Vargas to win. I think most of the

1439
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 2: odds makers do as well. He's super, super, super talented.

1440
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 2: I think that Magsio is going to be very opponent dependent,

1441
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:07,720
Speaker 2: which is which is what I mean is obviously he's

1442
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 2: got skills, and you know he's not in this place

1443
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 2: by accident, but he's got a lot of aggression and

1444
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 2: against Vargas, I don't know if that aggression is going

1445
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 2: to do him a lot of favors. I think aggress

1446
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 2: that Vargas has reached, as you mentioned, certain he's got

1447
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,640
Speaker 2: a lot of experience. His ability to work behind the

1448
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:23,879
Speaker 2: jab is going to be pretty critical. I think Maxio

1449
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 2: is going to have a hard time really cornering and

1450
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 2: drilling Vargas in the way that he can against some

1451
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 2: other opponents who oblige that style. To me, I think

1452
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 2: Vargas might be getting some belts on Saturday, but I

1453
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 2: guess we'll have to see.

1454
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 1: Wow. Well, look, you know the thing about Maksio is

1455
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:41,640
Speaker 1: he's probably at this point more exciting than he is

1456
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:44,760
Speaker 1: fully certified. And I say that with respect him. He

1457
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 1: just went out there and be Gary Russell Junior. I

1458
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:49,680
Speaker 1: mean in a big upset. But if there's a lot

1459
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:52,639
Speaker 1: of flash, good looking, you know has the full package

1460
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 1: in that regard, good pop goes after it. But can

1461
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 1: he win a fight like this against somebody so skilled?

1462
01:10:57,920 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 1: And by the way, Vargas, who's thirty one years old

1463
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 1: from Mexico, is thirty five and zero with twenty two

1464
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 1: KOs he'll have a four inchiede advantage at two and

1465
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 1: a half inch reach advantage. But look, I do love

1466
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 1: the synergy here. Maxio was born in the Philippines. The

1467
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 1: first fight he saw of any prominence that got him

1468
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 1: hooked on Boxing was the first fight that Manny Pacquio

1469
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 1: kicked through our TV screens. I mean, look, Manyipacyo had

1470
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 1: already made his debut on HBO last minute upset Leo

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Speaker 1: Ledwaba won a world title. We were like, who the

1472
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 1: hell is this guy? But when he fought Marco Antonio

1473
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 1: Barera in two thousand and three in the Alamo Dome.

1474
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 1: By the way, how about that for Synergy, That's the

1475
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 1: fight where Mark Maxio was like, holy crap, I love

1476
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 1: this guy, this Pacio guy. I want to do that

1477
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 1: for a living. Now he gets, you know, a huge

1478
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 1: opportunity coming off the biggest fight of his career, upsetting

1479
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 1: Gary Russell Jr. To headline in the same venue. So

1480
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 1: you know, we'll see what happens here. But to your points,

1481
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:54,799
Speaker 1: Vargas can fight. This is a tough, tough matchup on paper,

1482
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 1: but these are the type of fights Maxio is going

1483
01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 1: to have to win to keep pushing that fan base

1484
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 1: and take us taking him seriously at twenty seven years old,

1485
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 1: There's been no reason really not to yet, Luke, Let's

1486
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 1: see if you can go out there. I mean, he's

1487
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 1: already saying he thinks Vargas is gonna run and really

1488
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 1: try to make this a slow, boring fight. There's a point, yes,

1489
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,599
Speaker 1: where Mexile can be over aggressive and have that fall

1490
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 1: against him. But I like the attitude he has of

1491
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go out there, chase the sky down,

1492
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:22,600
Speaker 1: knock him out, and continue my walk. It's gonna be

1493
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 1: fun to see.

1494
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 2: We shall see. It's gonna be I don't think it's

1495
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 2: gonna be boring. It is true that Vargas might play

1496
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 2: a smarter game plan, but either way, Mexio is going

1497
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 2: to go go forward, and so we shall see what happens.

1498
01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 1: The co main event you really need to pay attention

1499
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 1: for for a couple of different reasons. First of all,

1500
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 1: it's a number one contender about for the title being

1501
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 1: defended in the main event with Megsio against Ray Vargas

1502
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,599
Speaker 1: and Luke. How much do we love Brandon Figure Figure?

1503
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:50,639
Speaker 1: Brandon Figueroa, excuse me.

1504
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:52,959
Speaker 2: I actually fair against Stephen Fulton Junior.

1505
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:55,720
Speaker 1: Delivered the fight of the year last year. Really it

1506
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 1: was a flip the coin on the cards. He's decided

1507
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 1: after some tough weight cuts to move on up to

1508
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:02,720
Speaker 1: one hundred twenty six pounds, so He's going in there

1509
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 1: against Carlos Castro, who is as experienced as they come.

1510
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 1: This should be not only a really fun fight, but

1511
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 1: if Figarole wins this, he could be getting lined up

1512
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 1: to fight Magsio or Vargas, whoever comes out of that

1513
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 1: main event. So we're talking about big steaks. Luke Figarole

1514
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 1: almost already saying the lack of the hard weight cut,

1515
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:25,639
Speaker 1: I feel stronger, I feel more vibrant, quicker. Some guys

1516
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 1: do kind of come out of the shell even more

1517
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 1: when that's not a debilitating part of their game having

1518
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 1: to cut down. Are you expecting big things out of

1519
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:34,600
Speaker 1: the featherweight version.

1520
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 2: Of this kid? Yeah, he gave Stephen Fulton Junior a tough,

1521
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:42,440
Speaker 2: tough fight. He has high output, he's got crazy durability.

1522
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:44,679
Speaker 2: I think moving up honestly, and it's not a huge

1523
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 2: jump either, but moving up is only going to aid that.

1524
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 2: You know, he doesn't have the body type or he

1525
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 2: I should say, he doesn't have the style. For the

1526
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 2: body type that he has, you would think he would

1527
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,639
Speaker 2: fight a very different way, but he doesn't. Doesn't matter.

1528
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 2: He is very very good with that style. I guess

1529
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 2: we'll see how he deals with an opponent who's got

1530
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 2: a little bit more umph on their power, a little

1531
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 2: bit more durability themselves. But b see, what I think

1532
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 2: is gonna save him is the volume. The volume for

1533
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 2: him is a.

1534
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 1: Body tells people out of the body. Yeah.

1535
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 2: Absolutely, between those two factors, I'm expecting good things for him.

1536
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 1: I believe Castro is fresh off his only loss of

1537
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 1: his career, Luke, when he went to a split decision

1538
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 1: with Luis Nary, who we know as a big player

1539
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 1: in and around these weight classes. Castro moving up from

1540
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 1: one twenty two just like Figueroa, but that was a

1541
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 1: very close fight. Neary needed it to bounce back after

1542
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 1: being stopped by Figaroa. So we'll see how that plays out.

1543
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:39,639
Speaker 1: But Luke and the opener of this tripleheader nine pm Eastern,

1544
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 1: don't sleep on Frank Martin unbeing lightweight. We know how

1545
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 1: busy that division is with up and comers who are

1546
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 1: trying to make that leap. Frank Martin trained by Derek

1547
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 1: James Luke, who we know as only really having super

1548
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:56,880
Speaker 1: elite clients in Erol Spence Junior and Jamel Charlow. He

1549
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 1: has a last minute and opponent change, but it's a

1550
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 1: guy we like a lot. Jackson Marinez, the pure boxer

1551
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 1: who you and I both thought got the best of

1552
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 1: Roly Romero in their title fight, but didn't get the

1553
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 1: noo on the scorecards. This is an interesting bit of

1554
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 1: last minute theater here. I like the matchmaking.

1555
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:14,799
Speaker 2: I like it too Marinaz. Again, I thought he got robbed.

1556
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 2: I mean, robbed is a strong word, but I did

1557
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 2: not think there was a strong scorecard for Roly Romero.

1558
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 2: He got it, Marinaz took it to him for the

1559
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 2: most part, good boxer, clever for all the reasons that

1560
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 2: BC stated, this will be a fun, action oriented opener

1561
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 2: between two good guys. I love it.

1562
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:33,720
Speaker 1: Just a reminder, showtime nine pm Eastern for the tripleheader.

1563
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:36,599
Speaker 1: The two fight preliminary card is going to be live

1564
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 1: on Showtime Sports social media channels on YouTube. Luke and

1565
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 1: I I think that's five forty five pm Eastern start time.

1566
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 1: Maybe six. I'll have to double check us can Apology

1567
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 1: on that, but Luke and I watch Party live play

1568
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 1: by play, a little fun and games. We'll take you

1569
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 1: with that. A couple good fights worth tuning in for. Luke.

1570
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 1: Also Saturday, in the Boxing Realm from London on his own.

1571
01:15:57,120 --> 01:16:00,000
Speaker 1: Are you pumped at all for Derek Chesora versus coup

1572
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 1: pov part No? No, Given the the trash talk and

1573
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 1: pushing and head to head between them.

1574
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 2: Dude, they've had the worst stare doowns imaginable? Like one

1575
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 2: time pooh Lev takes off the hat. The other time

1576
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 2: they're like doing a head like wrestling contest and they

1577
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 2: just stop and then awkwardly smile at each other. And

1578
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:21,759
Speaker 2: then today Chazora came out with like a Boris Johnson

1579
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 2: mask and poo Lev and him were like five feet apart.

1580
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, you guys have the worst, the strangest face

1581
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 2: offs at all times. I mean, I guess it's a

1582
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 2: fun fight because, by the way, Poolev has been collecting

1583
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:34,400
Speaker 2: well did he get paid by Troller. I don't know

1584
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:37,680
Speaker 2: if he got paid, but in general has been kind of,

1585
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 2: you know, fishing around the combat sports market, let's say,

1586
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:42,640
Speaker 2: for some interesting opportunities. And I think he didn't he

1587
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 2: beat Frank Mere or some shit. He beat the fuck

1588
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:44,679
Speaker 2: out of someone.

1589
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, he beat the Dan Murgury Marigliad. I almost got

1590
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:49,280
Speaker 1: Frank Meyer killed in that fight.

1591
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know he can obviously punch his lights

1592
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 2: out and uh, you know he's a good fighter all that.

1593
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 2: It's a It's not like the End of the World

1594
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:57,519
Speaker 2: terms of being a fight, but like, am I super

1595
01:16:57,640 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 2: thrilled for it?

1596
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 1: No, it could be fun and sloppy. They fought in

1597
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. Pulev won by split decision. But you know,

1598
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 1: del boy Derek Jasori is not a three fight losing skid.

1599
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 1: You know, the lost bullfights to Joseph Parker in a row.

1600
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 1: Needs a big one here after getting sunned by Dillian White,

1601
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:18,440
Speaker 1: so we'll see what happens. Also, don't miss Israel Madramov

1602
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:20,559
Speaker 1: on that co main event. I think it's a rematch

1603
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 1: with Michelle Sorot one fifty four that's worth watching. And

1604
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:26,679
Speaker 1: Felix Cash the British Prospect also in a featured fight

1605
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 1: on the way up there. Luke real quick on these

1606
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 1: quick hitters here Tony Kelly getting let go by the

1607
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:35,679
Speaker 1: UFC after the TKO lost to Adrian Janez, but also

1608
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 1: the very well criticized comments he made about Brazilians in

1609
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 1: the corner of Angela Lee before that. Do you have

1610
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 1: a reaction to this news?

1611
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 2: I mean, that's hardly the only thing he said that

1612
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 2: was insanely racist. If you look on some of his

1613
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 2: Instagram stuff, he had a lot of crazy things to

1614
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:53,679
Speaker 2: say there as well. It's amazing that there are UFC's

1615
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:55,679
Speaker 2: only getting rid of him by virtue of the fact

1616
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 2: that he lost. Like if he had won, if he

1617
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 2: was actually really good, we just have to tal rate

1618
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:02,639
Speaker 2: this from now on. I don't know he won, wonders,

1619
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 2: but Adrian Yanez or Jane excuse me, how the funniest

1620
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 2: take on it. He was like, well, there goes my rematch,

1621
01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 2: so I guess that's true. I mean, you know, yeah,

1622
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 2: I don't have much more to say about it than that.

1623
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 1: By the way, your interview with Adrian Yanez, which you

1624
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 1: can catch right now at YouTube dot com Slash Morning Combat.

1625
01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 1: I finally got around to it, Luke. Love his boxing

1626
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:25,720
Speaker 1: IQ and and not only here, you know respect he

1627
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 1: has for the past, but how he's able to really

1628
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 1: work that into his game. I love what he's doing

1629
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 1: right now.

1630
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's so smart. If you guys haven't seen it,

1631
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 2: I know it's long, but it's really worth your time

1632
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 2: to see a young fighter this understanding of the fight

1633
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:43,560
Speaker 2: game and then clearly thinking through all of these problems.

1634
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 2: He's he's got a bright future. Yeah.

1635
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 1: I also check out our room service diaries sit down

1636
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 1: with Josh Emmett, which really is worth your time. I

1637
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 1: know he's he's been on a lot of shows lately,

1638
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 1: but I feel like we got the deepest invest out

1639
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:57,760
Speaker 1: of him. Luke. It's fun, it's also real. So check

1640
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 1: that out indeed quickly. I know you don't care about

1641
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 1: out to Sonya versus Chris Pratt in terms of this

1642
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 1: social media war, Pratt was on the ESPN Post show,

1643
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 1: was a little critical of this topic that's still being

1644
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:11,680
Speaker 1: thrown around people upset with us even that is he

1645
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 1: is boring as shit and not a pound for palm best.

1646
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 1: Pratt was a little negative in the in that regard.

1647
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:20,719
Speaker 1: Out of Sonia sunned him on Twitter. But now Pratt

1648
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 1: kind of bent the knee and apologized and was like,

1649
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:25,599
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have said that. Is that going too far, Luke,

1650
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 1: because you also made an apology this week that some

1651
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 1: people said, what the hell are we doing in this

1652
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:30,759
Speaker 1: PC environment?

1653
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:33,599
Speaker 2: Let thine? I mean I didn't. I didn't apologize because

1654
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:36,680
Speaker 2: I made, you know, racist comments or something. And then

1655
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I'm my bad. Uh. You know,

1656
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 2: I was trying to and we also acknowledged we had

1657
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,479
Speaker 2: some wins on Friday, we had some wins from the

1658
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 2: people in attendance, and of course MGM. But uh, you know, listen,

1659
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:50,960
Speaker 2: I if he feels that way genuinely, then I wouldn't

1660
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 2: want to disrespect his sincerity and empathy for someone's situation.

1661
01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 2: If it's insincere and he's just bow to what he

1662
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 2: feels like is pressure, then of course that's ridiculous. I

1663
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 2: did not feel I didn't agree with his comments. I

1664
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 2: thought it was they were a little silly after the fight,

1665
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 2: but I didn't think they were worthy of like lashing out.

1666
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 2: But you know, dude, it is pretty clear. I would

1667
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 2: say two things. One is he appears to be taking

1668
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 2: this win almost not the fight itself, but the reaction

1669
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 2: to it, almost like a loss. Like he appears like

1670
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 2: this time to be fed up with the media, fed

1671
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 2: up with some of the fans, fed up with you know,

1672
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 2: celebrities like this, weighing in on it in ways where

1673
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 2: I've not quite seen the same level of pushback that

1674
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 2: he had previously, you know, demeaning the media, being like

1675
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 2: I could do your job, and then even to Chris Pratt,

1676
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:40,680
Speaker 2: like I'm the man, You're just some fan. You know.

1677
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:44,640
Speaker 2: This is indicating a level of sensitivity to this performance

1678
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 2: that I've not seen from him previously. In the same way,

1679
01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 2: that's the first thing I'd say. And for the folks

1680
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 2: who push and for the folks who pushed back on us,

1681
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:53,519
Speaker 2: that's fine. If you don't agree with our takes, you

1682
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:55,600
Speaker 2: don't have to. We're just giving him. You can do

1683
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 2: what you want with him. I will meet them a

1684
01:20:57,520 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 2: little bit halfway. And it goes back to something I'd

1685
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 2: said previously, And I wonder how you feel about this

1686
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 2: When you're as good as I Isy is in that

1687
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 2: one dimension of the game. It's not one dimension, but

1688
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 2: the totality of striking, let's say, and you can lord

1689
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 2: that over your opponents. And when you're so good at

1690
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 2: it that you can do it with a winning and

1691
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:21,759
Speaker 2: then be not really taking hardly any damage, it's hard

1692
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 2: to get them out of that mind frame. It's like, dude,

1693
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 2: if I don't have to take damage doing this, why

1694
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 2: the fuck would I? It doesn't make Once you reach

1695
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 2: a level of the game where you have command of it,

1696
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 2: where damage is an option, that's a hard thing. To

1697
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:37,680
Speaker 2: talk somebody out of what I would say though. What

1698
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:40,679
Speaker 2: I would say though, is and meeting these folks halfway.

1699
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 2: It does speak to again, his defensive wrestling and his

1700
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 2: urgency in those positions is incredible. His takedown defense is

1701
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 2: criminally underrated. All those things are true, but there's not

1702
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:55,600
Speaker 2: much of an offensive B game. There's not much of

1703
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:58,719
Speaker 2: an ability to take the fight. Like if RDA can't

1704
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:00,080
Speaker 2: win on the feed, he can just go right of

1705
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:02,599
Speaker 2: the ground, like it's not. The B game is very

1706
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 2: strong relative to the A game. And I want to

1707
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:08,600
Speaker 2: be clear is he's A game is extremely strong. But

1708
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 2: while he does, while he doesn't necessarily need to take damage,

1709
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 2: I do think it underscores the lack of the B

1710
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:18,720
Speaker 2: game being as fully developed as you might see in

1711
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 2: other cases that would allow him to exert other forms

1712
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:23,879
Speaker 2: of dominance. I think that might be true.

1713
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 1: Right, And this argument's also not just black and white.

1714
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:28,639
Speaker 1: And I don't mean skin color. I mean like, it's

1715
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:29,000
Speaker 1: not just.

1716
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 2: Right or wrong.

1717
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:33,720
Speaker 1: There's gray areas. Like again, Look, I don't think it's

1718
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 1: boring what he's doing. I think he's still pressing forward.

1719
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 1: I think he's still like again, I think he's putting

1720
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 1: all the pressure on the opponent. Will that affect a

1721
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 1: level of pay per view bys in global startup? Yes,

1722
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 1: but I don't think it's boring to watch, especially when

1723
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 1: he's in there with guys like Cannon Near, who I

1724
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:50,640
Speaker 1: thought could have won that fight but ultimately made the

1725
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:53,000
Speaker 1: decision not to take the big chances. That's like a

1726
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:57,000
Speaker 1: you know, that's like the way he's taming the snake

1727
01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:59,280
Speaker 1: there out of side, and it's incredible to me, Like

1728
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 1: a lot of those may Weather fights was something to

1729
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:04,160
Speaker 1: get too boring sometimes, Yes, but I also love the

1730
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 1: craft and the technical side of the sport and just

1731
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 1: enjoyed watching people trying to do something against Floyd. That's

1732
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 1: really what I was saying, Is it the most exciting

1733
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 1: way to fight? No, is a lot of the people's

1734
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:16,479
Speaker 1: anger more on the idea that because he's coming out

1735
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 1: with the undertaker Earn and predicting that he's gonna kill

1736
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 1: a guy and then he does that. Should should we

1737
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 1: hold him accountable for that? I mean you can, But

1738
01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 1: it's also about selling the fight, and I think he's

1739
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:31,639
Speaker 1: doing a very good job selling the fights. The fact

1740
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 1: that he's not fighting the fact that he's not going

1741
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:37,640
Speaker 1: after people like some of the heroes before. Again, you

1742
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:39,720
Speaker 1: could say that it's not your cup of tea, but

1743
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 1: I don't think what he's doing out there is boring.

1744
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:43,719
Speaker 1: I think agree that if that's what you're saying.

1745
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:44,920
Speaker 2: You know, I think there's a listen. I think there's

1746
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 2: a lot of people who show up expecting big action,

1747
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:48,680
Speaker 2: and of course, yeah, he talks a big game too,

1748
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 2: you know, there is that. I understand that that complaint.

1749
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 2: And again, if people paid for something that they didn't

1750
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 2: feel like they got, then that's that's that's just that's

1751
01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 2: just reality. But I think you know, going back and

1752
01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:00,439
Speaker 2: being like, oh, this is so terrible to what terrible

1753
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 2: to watch? And I think if you feel that way,

1754
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:05,720
Speaker 2: you might want to question a little bit about like

1755
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:08,640
Speaker 2: what is it that actually makes you feel so strongly

1756
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:11,519
Speaker 2: The fight was not it was not scintillating, far from it,

1757
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 2: but it was like, oh, it was painful to watch. No,

1758
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 2: it wasn't. It wasn't that. And I think people are

1759
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:16,519
Speaker 2: exaggerating a little.

1760
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 1: Bit, like Luke, remember the narrative after rightfully so, by

1761
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 1: the way, the narrative after Pacquiao Mayweather was like, ah, shit,

1762
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 1: that sucked, and because it sucked in comparison to the expectations.

1763
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 1: It sucked having to wait so long. It sucked in

1764
01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:31,680
Speaker 1: some ways that Pacquiao didn't go for broke when he

1765
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:34,520
Speaker 1: was actually pretty damn close on the and the scorecards

1766
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 1: all things considered, at one point in the second half

1767
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 1: of that fight. But I still really enjoyed that fight

1768
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 1: from a technical standpoint. I've rewatched it a few times. Luke.

1769
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 1: It's amazing to see those two, although late in their age,

1770
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:49,439
Speaker 1: still at a very high level and just playing chess

1771
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 1: with one another. So sometimes it does come down to

1772
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:53,559
Speaker 1: what you what you.

1773
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 2: Read and you people are always like, oh, you know,

1774
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:57,760
Speaker 2: the fan base feels differently than you and me. Yeah

1775
01:24:57,800 --> 01:24:59,720
Speaker 2: they might, they might, and listen, sometimes they're going to

1776
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 2: be right, and sometimes they're gonna be wrong. But like

1777
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 2: when people were complaining about Mayweather pakiaw It's like, dude,

1778
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 2: that was the ultimate event for yes, hardcore fans. It

1779
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 2: was the ultimate event for casuals too. You gotta forgive me.

1780
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:14,920
Speaker 2: When hardcore fans disagree with me, I will absolutely listen

1781
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 2: to them. I gotta tell you, when casual fans disagree,

1782
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:20,040
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck. I don't care what their

1783
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 2: opinion is, and there's a lot of casuals out there

1784
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:24,559
Speaker 2: being like, oh, is he's boring. It's hardcore ones too,

1785
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 2: to be clear, Yeah, like the casuals like if the

1786
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 2: fuck I don't they're they're their assessment of the fight

1787
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 2: game is irrelevant to me.

1788
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 1: Uh, quickly, look again, Felice Harrig telling MMA Fighting that

1789
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 1: she's making quote ridiculous money from OnlyFans and thanks the

1790
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 1: platform for not having to make desperate decisions to come

1791
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:45,720
Speaker 1: back and accept fights. She did just accept the fight

1792
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:48,799
Speaker 1: with BKFC, which which could look desperate, but she claims

1793
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 1: look that she is using that to try to use

1794
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 1: their connection with the fight app and try to get

1795
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 1: legitimate boxing matches, maybe through like uh uh Triller or whatever.

1796
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:01,280
Speaker 1: So uh, there's a little bit of a mixed manure.

1797
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 2: There's a question. Here's a question for you, serious question.

1798
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 2: I know we joke about this, but it's actually we're

1799
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 2: thinking about, for just a second, if pay an MMA

1800
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:12,599
Speaker 2: was better, like to the point where you know, whatever

1801
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 2: it ends up being, but it would be like that's

1802
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:16,640
Speaker 2: about That's about as much as favorable regulation and a

1803
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:18,639
Speaker 2: competitive market it's going to get you like you've maxed

1804
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:22,799
Speaker 2: out whatever it is with the various levels. Would female

1805
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 2: fighters and I get some men do it too, but

1806
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 2: like we largely know about it through female fighters, would

1807
01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 2: they still use only fans to make money? Because you

1808
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:34,599
Speaker 2: can argument can be like, oh, well, if they made

1809
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:37,360
Speaker 2: more from fighting, they wouldn't need only fans. But I

1810
01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:41,040
Speaker 2: actually wonder that if they made a lot from fighting

1811
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 2: and whatnot, would they just still use OnlyFans to make

1812
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 2: even more money than they ordinarily do? Like what role

1813
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:53,679
Speaker 2: would only fans play in a marketplace where pay was fair?

1814
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 1: I guess what, It's a very fair question. So I

1815
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 1: want to ask you because people assume I'm the hair

1816
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 1: club president, but I'm not an only client. Despite what

1817
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 1: you may be thinking, Luke, is it only a platform

1818
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 1: for nude semi nude sexual you know? Or you know

1819
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 1: it picks that you know what I'm talking about? Is

1820
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:14,439
Speaker 1: it only for that even if it's not fully nude,

1821
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:16,599
Speaker 1: there's there's a way you can probably still market that.

1822
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 1: Or is it also like here's my lifestyle. Oh, I'm

1823
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:21,360
Speaker 1: going to give you a couple of minute rant on

1824
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:24,800
Speaker 1: this or is it literally only nude and semi nude picks?

1825
01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 2: I think they used to be able to do banging

1826
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:30,680
Speaker 2: on there, and I think only fans cut down on that.

1827
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:33,920
Speaker 1: But okay, at least they have standards, Luke. All right, yeah, yeah,

1828
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:36,759
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, to get funnel your own narrative

1829
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 1: in a way, then I get it, like to have control,

1830
01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:43,320
Speaker 1: like you know, but if it's not, some would probably

1831
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:45,760
Speaker 1: still do it. But should they, Luke, I mean should they?

1832
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:48,639
Speaker 2: Should they is a different word. The question is will they?

1833
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 2: Because there's the if the economic incentives are that high, like,

1834
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 2: why wouldn't you honestly, yeah, you're not gonna be able

1835
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 2: to make that money when you're fifty. I can tell

1836
01:27:58,040 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 2: you that, you know, might as well get it now.

1837
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean what if you got an offer

1838
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:07,559
Speaker 1: to show yourself on only pipes and they said they

1839
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 1: said they would never have to reveal your face. So

1840
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 1: you know, if people could guess your naval tattoo and

1841
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 1: they see it there, they could they might think it's you.

1842
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:16,000
Speaker 1: Like would you take that chance?

1843
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 2: How much money a month?

1844
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:22,200
Speaker 1: We talking uh, double what you pay for childcare.

1845
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:30,160
Speaker 2: That's a lot of money. Yeah no, no, but like

1846
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:32,839
Speaker 2: I could be bought, could.

1847
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:36,679
Speaker 1: Be I would never show on only pipes, Luke, Okay, never,

1848
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 1: And don't don't show me anything in my DMS either,

1849
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:42,280
Speaker 1: all right. Also, Luke Eddie Hearn saying he wants to

1850
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 1: make Jesse Bam Rodriguez versus chocol Latito.

1851
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:52,240
Speaker 2: You in oh, who is the dumbass who is not

1852
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:52,760
Speaker 2: into that?

1853
01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 1: I like the sex, Luke. Also, Vassili Lomachenko has threw

1854
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:02,120
Speaker 1: Todd to Buffe of Top Rank has told ESPN that

1855
01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 1: Lumachenko is seeking an October return and that he's going

1856
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:08,200
Speaker 1: to exit the Ukraine conflict with Russia and get back

1857
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 1: into his career. No talk of a date, opponent, or venue,

1858
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:15,920
Speaker 1: but Shakher Stevenson, my guy, was on the Brian Custer

1859
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 1: Last Stand podcast and he said, quote Me versus Lamachenko

1860
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:22,760
Speaker 1: is the fight that needs to happen. And he says,

1861
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:25,639
Speaker 1: I feel like we are the two best technical fighters

1862
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 1: in the sport technique, in skills. I feel like him

1863
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:30,080
Speaker 1: and me are on that kind of level. So I

1864
01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:33,599
Speaker 1: feel like that's a fight that needs to happen someday. Luke,

1865
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:38,120
Speaker 1: that shit would get me. You talk about a phoner.

1866
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:41,040
Speaker 1: I would need in only pipes account to show you

1867
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 1: how excited I would be at that fight.

1868
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:51,280
Speaker 2: I love that BC's got breaking news to read more,

1869
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:53,639
Speaker 2: go to only pipes dot com and then you could

1870
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:55,639
Speaker 2: actually like ride it on your dong and everyone would

1871
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:57,719
Speaker 2: have to read your dong in order to get the news.

1872
01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 2: That would be a hilarious way of owning your critics.

1873
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:06,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would, Okay, I mean it like.

1874
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:07,599
Speaker 2: Take a picture of your take a picture of your

1875
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:11,240
Speaker 2: stretched out bozak and then actually like super imposed text

1876
01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:14,000
Speaker 2: on top of it. That'd be that'd be hilarious.

1877
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 1: I mean it'd be uh wow, it'd be. It'd bey

1878
01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:19,360
Speaker 1: on brand, that's for sure.

1879
01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:21,240
Speaker 2: On the three year anniversary of the show, we are

1880
01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:23,360
Speaker 2: still talking about each other satchel. I just want to

1881
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:25,000
Speaker 2: point that out. We really are awful.

1882
01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:28,240
Speaker 1: Would that give you the movement though, Luke, please don't

1883
01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:28,920
Speaker 1: bet yeh.

1884
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:30,640
Speaker 2: Course, of course due And there's a there's a lot

1885
01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:33,040
Speaker 2: of great fights. I know Lopez Lopez is a fight

1886
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:35,560
Speaker 2: coming up and went Florida, I think coming up. But

1887
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:37,599
Speaker 2: we'll see what happens with him. But yes, of course, dude,

1888
01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 2: Stevenson is you know, there's been a few guys that

1889
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:42,160
Speaker 2: you told me were like the guys to pay attention to.

1890
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:44,080
Speaker 2: When was Devin Hanny and one with you Chris Stevenson,

1891
01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:46,640
Speaker 2: and of those two, Chris Stevenson looks to me like

1892
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 2: he might be kicking people's asses for a long time.

1893
01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:52,840
Speaker 1: Dude, would he beat would he beat Loma at one

1894
01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:56,599
Speaker 1: thirty five? I don't know, so, Oh god, that'd.

1895
01:30:56,439 --> 01:31:00,400
Speaker 2: Be great, right exactly? At a bare minimum, you know this,

1896
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:03,759
Speaker 2: Loma would test it at a bare minimum, Loma would.

1897
01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:05,679
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know that guy, Oh yeah, he would,

1898
01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:08,160
Speaker 1: all right, luc We get tested each week when we

1899
01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:09,800
Speaker 1: do this live show, and a lot of the shit

1900
01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:14,320
Speaker 1: we say ends up being in fact not right. As so,

1901
01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:17,400
Speaker 1: we have a segment each week where Morningcombat at gmail

1902
01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:20,759
Speaker 1: dot com is the in hole of one producer Mikey Mormes,

1903
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:26,040
Speaker 1: who's ready to take your receipts, your slander, your accusations

1904
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:31,200
Speaker 1: that possibly BT or LC or the other stop that

1905
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:39,200
Speaker 1: reverse it was dead wrong? All right, Luke, this has

1906
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:41,920
Speaker 1: become a Let's roast BC portion of the show. Let's

1907
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 1: see if that continues. This one is here from Edgar

1908
01:31:45,280 --> 01:31:47,760
Speaker 1: Michael and also vance Wow, I don't know who wrote

1909
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:49,200
Speaker 1: this email, though, we got to do a better job

1910
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:53,320
Speaker 1: identifying who's writing it. On episode three fifteen of MK,

1911
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:58,840
Speaker 1: while discussing Rockmanoff's previous opponents, Professor Salt and Pepper referenced

1912
01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:03,480
Speaker 1: South African fighter Carlston Harris, who is in fact Guyanese,

1913
01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:05,720
Speaker 1: making you dead wrong, sir.

1914
01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:10,639
Speaker 2: You flag looks somewhat similar. But that's right, that's right,

1915
01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:12,960
Speaker 2: that's a fair correction. Yeah, I'll take that out, you see,

1916
01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:13,960
Speaker 2: I'll want to accept that up.

1917
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:17,240
Speaker 1: He defers to me for sentencing Luke. But yeah, you're

1918
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 1: dead wrong on that, all right. I used to work

1919
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:22,839
Speaker 1: in the factory with a guy from Guyana. Luke loved cricket,

1920
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:23,760
Speaker 1: loved that ship.

1921
01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:27,080
Speaker 2: Dude. I gotta tell you if this, if they're not

1922
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:31,439
Speaker 2: speaking Portuguese or Spanish on South America, I am even

1923
01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:33,800
Speaker 2: then I'm probably woefully ignorant. But if they're not doing

1924
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:37,920
Speaker 2: those things, I am like amazingly ignorant about it, unfortunately.

1925
01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:39,599
Speaker 2: So okay, you.

1926
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:42,080
Speaker 1: Know that game I played with you a couple of

1927
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:44,160
Speaker 1: weeks ago. Like, if I'm gonna I want to reinvent

1928
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:46,240
Speaker 1: myself in the UK, and I know I'm Welsh, I

1929
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:48,240
Speaker 1: know it, Luke, even though I got a Scottish name

1930
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:51,280
Speaker 1: and I'm one eighth Irish, I know I'll be I'd

1931
01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:53,880
Speaker 1: fit in in Wales. Bro Me and the Kalzagi's man.

1932
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:57,240
Speaker 1: We would tear that place up. What's the South American

1933
01:32:57,320 --> 01:33:00,920
Speaker 1: home for BC? What country and their people match up

1934
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:04,120
Speaker 1: with my idiosyncrasies in philosophy and culture?

1935
01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:12,080
Speaker 2: That bit? You ain't like any of them, you know.

1936
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:13,799
Speaker 1: I bet you I could fit in in some circles

1937
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:16,280
Speaker 1: of Paraguay. I'm telling you this, Okay, I don't know shit.

1938
01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:19,080
Speaker 2: About I know very little about Paraguay, but like, oh,

1939
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:24,160
Speaker 2: you know what, they're pretty tolerant in uh Uruguay. Like

1940
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:26,120
Speaker 2: like I've heard good things about Monte Video. I've heard

1941
01:33:26,160 --> 01:33:28,240
Speaker 2: good thing like there's we that's legal down there, and

1942
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:32,519
Speaker 2: that's pretty great. Maybe you could fit in Argentina. The

1943
01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:35,479
Speaker 2: Argentines are wildly racist, you could do?

1944
01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:37,559
Speaker 1: You always say that, you know what I know about

1945
01:33:37,640 --> 01:33:40,640
Speaker 1: Argentina that they're badasses in the boxing ring Luke, and

1946
01:33:40,680 --> 01:33:42,960
Speaker 1: they get jail tats all over them. They just cover

1947
01:33:43,040 --> 01:33:45,360
Speaker 1: themselves in jail tats and then they box the show.

1948
01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:47,640
Speaker 2: They're basically this is hard to understand for someone. And

1949
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:49,360
Speaker 2: I've never been to Argentina, so it's not like I'm

1950
01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:51,920
Speaker 2: some expert. But everyone from South America tells me this.

1951
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:56,640
Speaker 2: The Argentines basically consider themselves Europeans who just happened to

1952
01:33:56,720 --> 01:34:00,719
Speaker 2: live in uh yeah, South America, which there is obviously

1953
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:03,000
Speaker 2: a great degree of truth to that, but not entirely.

1954
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:08,400
Speaker 1: Right. Genobile looks Italian, Luke, right.

1955
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:10,360
Speaker 2: He does, Dude, look at Leo MESSI look at a

1956
01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:11,760
Speaker 2: lot of those guys. But then you know there's a

1957
01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:13,680
Speaker 2: lot of them that don't look anything like that, and uh,

1958
01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:15,720
Speaker 2: you know, their economy is a mess. I've heard I

1959
01:34:16,160 --> 01:34:18,120
Speaker 2: one of my like go to places like on the

1960
01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:20,640
Speaker 2: map where I really want to go is Buenosiety's I

1961
01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:23,120
Speaker 2: really want, I really Buenos Aires, I really want to go.

1962
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:28,160
Speaker 2: But but but they are you know, I'll never forget.

1963
01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:30,280
Speaker 2: And every ever, I had so many people from South

1964
01:34:30,280 --> 01:34:32,360
Speaker 2: America being like, that's just how we talked on here. Yes,

1965
01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:35,759
Speaker 2: y'all are racist as shit in South America, all parts

1966
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:38,839
Speaker 2: of it. But when I saw those Argentine dudes summon

1967
01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:41,040
Speaker 2: the help at the pool, by the way, all the

1968
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:44,240
Speaker 2: help is always like the class divisions in South America

1969
01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:47,320
Speaker 2: are crazy, some in him by his race, and then

1970
01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:49,920
Speaker 2: every people try to excuse that. I'm like, if you

1971
01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:53,679
Speaker 2: think that is normal or it's normal in your country,

1972
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:57,240
Speaker 2: it's because your country is racist as shit. I hope

1973
01:34:57,280 --> 01:35:02,080
Speaker 2: everybody understands that. Okay, Yeah, you don't summon people who

1974
01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:05,559
Speaker 2: are working and working class people to help you by

1975
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:08,760
Speaker 2: noting their race. That's not acceptable.

1976
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:11,720
Speaker 1: Big words from a big man here, the son of

1977
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 1: the American national himself.

1978
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:16,040
Speaker 2: They try to normalize. That was just how we talked

1979
01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:18,280
Speaker 2: down here. Yes, because you'all are racist as fuck. That's why.

1980
01:35:18,439 --> 01:35:20,040
Speaker 1: That's why do you have a I don't know your

1981
01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:22,240
Speaker 1: middle name? Is it like probably it's probably like presidential,

1982
01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:26,040
Speaker 1: It's probably like Luke, like Luke Roosevelt Thomas or something

1983
01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:26,280
Speaker 1: like that.

1984
01:35:26,360 --> 01:35:33,599
Speaker 2: Right, Yes, Luke Roosevelt Thomas. That's right, that's I'm gonna

1985
01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:34,720
Speaker 2: go with that from now on.

1986
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:36,840
Speaker 1: Is your what is your middle name?

1987
01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:38,320
Speaker 2: Luke? I'm not telling you, motherfucker.

1988
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:42,120
Speaker 1: Oh okay, wow Wow, it's like not like I asked

1989
01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:44,720
Speaker 1: for your only pipes password. I mean, come on, look

1990
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:48,160
Speaker 1: seriously here, bro right, Damn, I guess I guess we'll

1991
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:52,040
Speaker 1: keep going. All right. This one's from Harry. Don't know

1992
01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:55,839
Speaker 1: if it's a dirty Harry. Harry Colin. In the latest episode,

1993
01:35:55,880 --> 01:35:58,760
Speaker 1: BC managed to dead wrong himself twice in less than

1994
01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:01,679
Speaker 1: five minutes around on the one hour forty five Mark.

1995
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:05,080
Speaker 1: He referenced the double knockdown in Rocky three, did I

1996
01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:08,040
Speaker 1: because that's a bad dead wrong. That was, of course

1997
01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:10,840
Speaker 1: in the Apollo Creed rematch, which was Rocky two. Very

1998
01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:14,000
Speaker 1: noted the final fight scene amazing. A few minutes later,

1999
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:18,559
Speaker 1: while discussing Aiesha, BC named the members of another bad

2000
01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:23,639
Speaker 1: creation as Chris Rock Red Dave Row. Either you fell

2001
01:36:23,680 --> 01:36:25,719
Speaker 1: off the wagon and had a gas station hot dog

2002
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:28,360
Speaker 1: in your mouth, or you simply forgot that it's Mark

2003
01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:33,479
Speaker 1: not Rock Okay, yeah, right, I could guess why my

2004
01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:36,160
Speaker 1: nineties brain would say Chris Rock read but it's Chris

2005
01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:38,720
Speaker 1: Mark Red Dave Roads.

2006
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:40,479
Speaker 2: Fair by the way, And at what point are we

2007
01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:43,840
Speaker 2: allowed to say that? Like not everything about Rocky is great?

2008
01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:45,240
Speaker 2: Like the first movie is amazing.

2009
01:36:45,439 --> 01:36:47,280
Speaker 1: Don't do this finish.

2010
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:51,559
Speaker 2: Any have any finished my point? I mean, I haven't

2011
01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:54,599
Speaker 2: even argued what I'm trying to argue. Rocky two is great,

2012
01:36:54,920 --> 01:36:57,400
Speaker 2: Rocky two is great, Rocky three I liked a lot,

2013
01:36:58,240 --> 01:37:01,200
Speaker 2: but come on, everything after that is some bullshit For

2014
01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:02,240
Speaker 2: the most part, right.

2015
01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:04,880
Speaker 1: Rocky for is the best one. Dude? Come on? Fuck,

2016
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:06,240
Speaker 1: I mean, but it's wrong with you.

2017
01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:10,720
Speaker 2: Rocky four. Rocky four is better than Rocky really.

2018
01:37:10,439 --> 01:37:13,920
Speaker 1: Okay, Rocky is the is the best actual movie of

2019
01:37:13,960 --> 01:37:16,800
Speaker 1: the of the all of them. Okay, but what's the

2020
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:19,120
Speaker 1: one you're gonna go back to? I mean, Rocky three

2021
01:37:19,160 --> 01:37:21,639
Speaker 1: is in this this discussion as well, I think as

2022
01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:24,639
Speaker 1: the best, but four, dude, four it's s dude. Yes,

2023
01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:27,760
Speaker 1: it's eighties cheesy and propaganda and all that, but it's

2024
01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:30,280
Speaker 1: like it doesn't hide from who it is. It's one

2025
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:32,960
Speaker 1: hundred percent of that. It's like saying, Okay, we did

2026
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:34,760
Speaker 1: sell our soul a bit by making a pop hit,

2027
01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:37,599
Speaker 1: but it's the greatest pop rock song you've ever heard,

2028
01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:40,000
Speaker 1: like Dance the Night Away by Van Halen. I know,

2029
01:37:40,120 --> 01:37:42,200
Speaker 1: like sometimes we're like, man, was it really that cool? Yeah?

2030
01:37:42,200 --> 01:37:44,000
Speaker 1: What's fucking that cool? That sounds amazing?

2031
01:37:44,160 --> 01:37:46,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dance the Nightaway sucked. I will grant that Rocky

2032
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:49,439
Speaker 2: four is not terrible. It's definitely not terrible, but as

2033
01:37:49,439 --> 01:37:53,200
Speaker 2: a movie, not terror does. That's an American You're I'm

2034
01:37:53,200 --> 01:37:55,320
Speaker 2: not saying, I listen, I'm saying it's not terrible, but

2035
01:37:55,400 --> 01:37:58,360
Speaker 2: as a movie, it doesn't compare to Rocky Like as

2036
01:37:58,360 --> 01:37:59,160
Speaker 2: a movie.

2037
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:02,280
Speaker 1: Okay, as an a having a award winner or nominee yes,

2038
01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:06,200
Speaker 1: but as a I mean three's badass, Luke, and also

2039
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:10,280
Speaker 1: Rocky Balboa, which is technically number six badass man.

2040
01:38:10,360 --> 01:38:13,479
Speaker 2: I mean, now, okay, I'll grant you that maybe a

2041
01:38:13,479 --> 01:38:15,400
Speaker 2: little harsh on Rocky four. Fine, I'll dial back some

2042
01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:18,840
Speaker 2: of the criticisms. Fucking was is that the one with

2043
01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:19,959
Speaker 2: Mason Dixon?

2044
01:38:20,520 --> 01:38:23,479
Speaker 1: Yes, so it's it's a I didn't like the ending

2045
01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:25,280
Speaker 1: in that whole scene, and it was, you know, they

2046
01:38:25,360 --> 01:38:27,400
Speaker 1: kind of just it was a trope, it was recycled.

2047
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:30,120
Speaker 1: But there was a lot of heart in that movie though, Luke,

2048
01:38:30,160 --> 01:38:32,320
Speaker 1: the first, you know, three quarters of it, and I

2049
01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:35,200
Speaker 1: think Rocky acted his ass off in that role. And uh,

2050
01:38:35,320 --> 01:38:38,160
Speaker 1: at least it took that stain of Rocky five away.

2051
01:38:38,640 --> 01:38:41,040
Speaker 1: And now with the with the you know, the Creed ones,

2052
01:38:41,080 --> 01:38:43,840
Speaker 1: I love, you know, I think they repaired all the holes, Luke.

2053
01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:46,599
Speaker 1: Okay they did.

2054
01:38:46,680 --> 01:38:49,840
Speaker 2: Oh no, well, I did like Creed a lot.

2055
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:52,439
Speaker 1: Creed one was good, man, Creed.

2056
01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:55,679
Speaker 2: One was good. I just didn't like It's not it's good.

2057
01:38:55,680 --> 01:38:57,120
Speaker 2: It's very good, like you should see it if you

2058
01:38:57,120 --> 01:38:59,240
Speaker 2: haven't seen it, but it's definitely not Rocky.

2059
01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:03,760
Speaker 1: It's good Like Rocky three had this energy to it

2060
01:39:03,880 --> 01:39:07,040
Speaker 1: Luke that none of them have that after Rocky four,

2061
01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:09,639
Speaker 1: that energy's gone. You know what I'm saying, It's alive.

2062
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:12,080
Speaker 1: You know it's Luke Rockey three was some I mean, dude,

2063
01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:13,680
Speaker 1: you had mister t at whole Colgan, I mean that

2064
01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:18,479
Speaker 1: was like, that was a phenomenal movie. Yes, Mark or Harry,

2065
01:39:18,479 --> 01:39:21,040
Speaker 1: I'm sorry dirty. Harry closes with the only thing more

2066
01:39:21,080 --> 01:39:24,400
Speaker 1: impressive than BC's range of references is his ability to

2067
01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:27,519
Speaker 1: dead wrong himself in multiple disciplines. All right, thank you

2068
01:39:27,680 --> 01:39:30,000
Speaker 1: very much, Harry. Let's go over to Kevin, he says.

2069
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:33,080
Speaker 1: Hi donks sliding into ding BC for the slip of

2070
01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:36,400
Speaker 1: the tongue. On Friday Show at two hours and three minutes,

2071
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:40,720
Speaker 1: he says, breaking news from the University of Colorado at Buffalo.

2072
01:39:41,520 --> 01:39:46,000
Speaker 1: Phil McKagan has been named what was he named? It

2073
01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:47,439
Speaker 1: wasn't as it was associate help.

2074
01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:50,760
Speaker 2: I didn't even catch that because they are the Buffalos, right,

2075
01:39:50,840 --> 01:39:52,520
Speaker 2: But it's in Boulder.

2076
01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:54,879
Speaker 1: He says BC. This is dead wrong because the University

2077
01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:58,200
Speaker 1: of Colorado is in Boulder, Ralphie. The Buffalo is their

2078
01:39:58,240 --> 01:40:00,679
Speaker 1: mascot and the source of their team's name. I would

2079
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:03,680
Speaker 1: expect BC to know better. See you Boulder, being the

2080
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:07,240
Speaker 1: alma mater of one former UFC fighter and current stand

2081
01:40:07,280 --> 01:40:09,400
Speaker 1: up comedian, Brendan Shob.

2082
01:40:12,800 --> 01:40:14,799
Speaker 2: I think there's going to be a Brendan Shab reference

2083
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:18,000
Speaker 2: on this show every single time you're on it, whether

2084
01:40:18,040 --> 01:40:19,720
Speaker 2: it came. I know you didn't make it. I know

2085
01:40:19,800 --> 01:40:20,479
Speaker 2: you didn't make it.

2086
01:40:20,640 --> 01:40:23,679
Speaker 1: But Kevin, I accept you're dead wrong. If I said

2087
01:40:23,880 --> 01:40:26,639
Speaker 1: at Buffalo, yeah, yeah, I probably said I'm an asshole. Okay,

2088
01:40:26,680 --> 01:40:28,679
Speaker 1: but shout out to Phil mccagan just the same.

2089
01:40:28,720 --> 01:40:31,000
Speaker 2: Okay, shout out shouts to coach Phil. He's out there

2090
01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:31,599
Speaker 2: doing big thing.

2091
01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:35,800
Speaker 1: Do you think coach Phil like lumbered around pipe at

2092
01:40:35,800 --> 01:40:37,960
Speaker 1: the University of Main Luke, I mean, they don't know

2093
01:40:38,040 --> 01:40:40,160
Speaker 1: athletes like came up up in that state though. Women

2094
01:40:40,200 --> 01:40:41,760
Speaker 1: they don't. You know, they weren't prepared for that.

2095
01:40:41,800 --> 01:40:43,760
Speaker 2: You know, he's probably he was definitely a plumber, you

2096
01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:44,360
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying?

2097
01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:48,719
Speaker 1: All Right? This is from Kay and Michael on Monday's

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Speaker 1: episode three sixteen at one hour and eight minutes. BC

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Speaker 1: says he told Luke in twenty eighteen on the MMAB

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Speaker 1: that Woodley would kotill as an example of when he

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Speaker 1: predicted something right. Classic BC when he's trying too hard

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Speaker 1: to be right. He is also dead wrong. Woodley did

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Speaker 1: drop till, but it was the submission with the dars

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Speaker 1: when he got his back. He got his black belt.

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Speaker 1: After that fight, Woodley did the fire. That was the

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Speaker 1: last time Woodley was on the top of the mountain.

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Speaker 1: I mean, did he beat Demian May after that, But

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01:41:20,439 --> 01:41:24,280
Speaker 1: that was the last like badass performance there. Yeah, I'll

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Speaker 1: take that out. You're right, it was a submission. I

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Speaker 1: not only said that what happen on that one episode, Luke,

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01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:31,599
Speaker 1: I said, TJ's gonna knock out Cody a second time,

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Speaker 1: and You're like, we'll have to see, We'll see. BC.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm not as clairvoyant as you. You know

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Speaker 1: what I mean.

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Speaker 2: That you're gonna go with that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just gonna let the dust settle. Okay, let's

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Speaker 1: get back to our regularly schedule programming. This is from

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Speaker 1: Julio with a G Luke. He's from Montreal. He's a

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Speaker 1: French Canadian pizza of shit like me. All right, Greetings,

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Speaker 1: dad bods. On Tuesday's episode of Extra Credit, Luke declared

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01:41:59,840 --> 01:42:02,920
Speaker 1: that Brian Kelleher is the only fighter who's ever been

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01:42:02,960 --> 01:42:04,360
Speaker 1: on the MMA Beat Panel.

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Speaker 2: Not true, Jesus Ite McFarlane.

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01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:09,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. My question to you, Luke is what does Hawaii

2125
01:42:09,439 --> 01:42:11,639
Speaker 1: you gotta do to get some respect around these parts?

2126
01:42:12,080 --> 01:42:16,200
Speaker 1: Former belat or flyway Clean Queen Almalla McFarlane was once

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01:42:16,240 --> 01:42:18,439
Speaker 1: a beat panelist, and a good one at that. That

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01:42:18,479 --> 01:42:21,439
Speaker 1: episode was also the first time there were two women

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Speaker 1: on the MMA Beat panel. Make sure to keep jeweling,

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01:42:26,120 --> 01:42:30,679
Speaker 1: you old piece of shit. He means your jewelstick, Luke,

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01:42:30,720 --> 01:42:31,479
Speaker 1: you dirtle.

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Speaker 2: That's a good one. That's a good one. It's so

2133
01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:36,920
Speaker 2: easy to make fun of people who vape. Even I

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01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:40,680
Speaker 2: realize that. Apologies. Yes, I forgot about Farland. I have

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01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:44,240
Speaker 2: tried to bury those memories and as a consequence, I

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01:42:44,280 --> 01:42:45,879
Speaker 2: have forgotten some important details.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, what what what you know? As much as

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01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:51,360
Speaker 1: I want to make myself the A team, Luke, I

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01:42:51,479 --> 01:42:54,519
Speaker 1: was just a little sprinkle on top of that ice cream.

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01:42:55,200 --> 01:42:57,559
Speaker 1: And I also was there as the ship went into

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01:42:57,600 --> 01:43:01,040
Speaker 1: the ground. But we did resurreight, we did pivot nicely. Luke,

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Speaker 1: what is the A team in your mind? What is

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01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:04,760
Speaker 1: the four best that we're ever together?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's not even the four best. It was that

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01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:09,599
Speaker 2: we had. We called ourselves the A team during this run,

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01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:12,599
Speaker 2: so it kind of is a thing like identifiably it

2147
01:43:12,640 --> 01:43:16,640
Speaker 2: was Ariel, Me, Chuck and Jeff Wagenheim that was the

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01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:21,519
Speaker 2: original A team and we had called ourselves that unfairly perhaps,

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01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:23,760
Speaker 2: but we did. And yeah, I mean there were some

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01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:26,320
Speaker 2: fun times. I mean maybe please almost understand me. But

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Speaker 2: by the time I was ready to your words, make

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01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:31,960
Speaker 2: a pivot, I was ready to, uh, you know, forget

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01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:33,720
Speaker 2: a lot of things. Yeah, thank you.

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01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:36,679
Speaker 1: Also, Mike chippetto Connecticut's Own was on the first episode

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01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:38,720
Speaker 1: along with you and Ariel of the M M A B.

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01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:41,760
Speaker 2: That's right, it was actually just us three. It was

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01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:42,439
Speaker 2: just us three.

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01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:44,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to not look it's it's it's part

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01:43:44,680 --> 01:43:47,200
Speaker 1: of our origin story, Luke. Okay, and it is.

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Speaker 2: No, No, don't get me wrong. There was many many

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01:43:49,000 --> 01:43:50,479
Speaker 2: good times, many many good times.

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01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:52,559
Speaker 1: I mean it was really nice and Ariel to never

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01:43:52,600 --> 01:43:54,400
Speaker 1: ask me one time in the first one hundred and

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01:43:54,439 --> 01:43:56,000
Speaker 1: ninety nine episodes of that show.

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Speaker 2: Lukey, take it up with him, bro take it up

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01:43:58,640 --> 01:43:59,000
Speaker 2: with him.

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01:43:59,439 --> 01:44:01,280
Speaker 1: No, I was cover at MMA for most of that

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01:44:01,400 --> 01:44:03,519
Speaker 1: all right. I was behind the scenes, Luke, as an editor,

2169
01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:06,040
Speaker 1: nobody cares about you when you're an editor. This from Mike.

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01:44:06,080 --> 01:44:08,040
Speaker 1: Dear Luke and BC, just thought i'd let you know

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01:44:08,080 --> 01:44:10,639
Speaker 1: that BC was dead wrong and an hour and twenty

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01:44:10,640 --> 01:44:13,920
Speaker 1: eight seconds of Saturday's Instant Reaction Show when he said

2173
01:44:13,960 --> 01:44:17,800
Speaker 1: that Alex Padata has had three challenges, referring to three

2174
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:21,200
Speaker 1: UFC fights and that he passed all of them via stoppage.

2175
01:44:21,439 --> 01:44:24,680
Speaker 1: This is not true. Despite badly wobbling Bruno Silva and

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01:44:24,760 --> 01:44:27,560
Speaker 1: round three of their fight, Padata did not get the

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01:44:27,640 --> 01:44:32,760
Speaker 1: Ko Silver survived unanimous decision. Luke, start screwing up more.

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01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:38,400
Speaker 1: I'm sick of dead wronging BC. It's sincerely, It's Mike. Okay, okay, Mike,

2179
01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:41,080
Speaker 1: you're so so you got me?

2180
01:44:41,160 --> 01:44:43,400
Speaker 2: Did you do the is he homework and go back

2181
01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:45,559
Speaker 2: and watch the first two fights? No?

2182
01:44:45,720 --> 01:44:47,519
Speaker 1: Not yet. Now I'm waiting for them to fight each

2183
01:44:47,520 --> 01:44:49,600
Speaker 1: other first, Luke, I gotta get that.

2184
01:44:49,680 --> 01:44:51,280
Speaker 2: Turns out they have. It turns out they have.

2185
01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:53,719
Speaker 1: What you and I should do is rewatch them together

2186
01:44:53,800 --> 01:44:54,880
Speaker 1: on like an MK thing.

2187
01:44:55,160 --> 01:44:58,439
Speaker 2: I love that idea. I love that idea. That's a

2188
01:44:58,520 --> 01:44:59,479
Speaker 2: great idea. BC.

2189
01:44:59,680 --> 01:45:01,320
Speaker 1: You should I do a lot of them. Look, you

2190
01:45:01,320 --> 01:45:03,920
Speaker 1: know part of this show's you know fabric is my

2191
01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:05,640
Speaker 1: my prints, my toe prints.

2192
01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:08,280
Speaker 2: So after this show, are you going to go and

2193
01:45:08,479 --> 01:45:10,880
Speaker 2: if you want to see Luken BC relive the action

2194
01:45:11,000 --> 01:45:13,640
Speaker 2: between Izzy and Perreira one and two, meet us on

2195
01:45:13,680 --> 01:45:16,880
Speaker 2: the MK only Pipes account where you can see that

2196
01:45:17,080 --> 01:45:17,840
Speaker 2: and much more.

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01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:22,719
Speaker 1: Dude, MK only Pipes would be lit. Dude, that would

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01:45:22,720 --> 01:45:23,839
Speaker 1: be wow.

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01:45:24,240 --> 01:45:26,840
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah it would It would just be Philled doing

2200
01:45:26,840 --> 01:45:28,679
Speaker 2: all the weird things. Phil, does you know what I'm saying?

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01:45:28,760 --> 01:45:30,800
Speaker 1: Filthy Phil would be great on that site. I'd never

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01:45:30,880 --> 01:45:33,160
Speaker 1: watch any of his content. That would be so gross. Okay,

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01:45:33,520 --> 01:45:39,280
Speaker 1: this one's from Faisan Afternoon from England. Donks. I expect

2204
01:45:39,320 --> 01:45:42,000
Speaker 1: it more from BC. But both of you low t

2205
01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:45,599
Speaker 1: zeros have displayed your lack of geographic knowledge in previous weeks,

2206
01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:51,400
Speaker 1: with deficient knowledge of Wales, Scotland, Azerbaijan, Uzbekistan, et cetera.

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01:45:51,800 --> 01:45:54,640
Speaker 2: Some of that, some of that wasn't geography, It was

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01:45:55,000 --> 01:45:58,240
Speaker 2: flag associated content. But yes, it's in general affair criticism.

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01:45:58,520 --> 01:46:00,920
Speaker 1: But at fourteen twenty six of the John Jones High

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01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:04,200
Speaker 1: Court episode, BC says that have b B Dustin in

2211
01:46:04,280 --> 01:46:08,680
Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia. Well, BC, I know you think that all

2212
01:46:08,720 --> 01:46:11,680
Speaker 1: countries in that region are the same, so whatever, But

2213
01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:14,519
Speaker 1: the fight was in Fight Island Abu Dhabi, which is

2214
01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:19,759
Speaker 1: in the UAE. You foggy brained imminent liver failing having buffoon.

2215
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:22,760
Speaker 1: I love you guys, though, keep up the good work.

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01:46:22,800 --> 01:46:26,599
Speaker 1: Literal day one fan, It's Fazan from Wilmslow, England. Current

2217
01:46:26,640 --> 01:46:31,920
Speaker 1: residents of my town being Tyson Fury and Cristiano Ronaldo. Wow.

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01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:36,200
Speaker 2: Wow Wow. Ben doesn't live as nicely as either though.

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01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:40,559
Speaker 1: No, yeah, Luke, I did butcher that, but you know

2220
01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:42,439
Speaker 1: I was. I wasn't really all that with it when

2221
01:46:42,479 --> 01:46:43,840
Speaker 1: we filmed that episode. To tell you that.

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01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:46,080
Speaker 2: I'm told I've been to Saudi Arabia as a kid,

2223
01:46:46,080 --> 01:46:47,880
Speaker 2: but I must have been like less than two, because

2224
01:46:47,880 --> 01:46:49,040
Speaker 2: I have no memories of it.

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01:46:49,080 --> 01:46:52,599
Speaker 1: So did you go for a golf tournament co hosted

2226
01:46:52,640 --> 01:46:55,240
Speaker 1: by Phil Mickelson as he just puts all that blood

2227
01:46:55,240 --> 01:46:55,960
Speaker 1: money in his arm pit?

2228
01:46:56,040 --> 01:46:59,960
Speaker 2: Luke, No, No, my dad had a I wouldn't call it.

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01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:01,759
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's even noble as the word anymore.

2230
01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:04,360
Speaker 2: But my dad was working on the State Department at

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01:47:04,360 --> 01:47:05,040
Speaker 2: the time, so.

2232
01:47:06,479 --> 01:47:09,800
Speaker 1: Working with his pipe, probably to bring water to the

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01:47:09,960 --> 01:47:12,920
Speaker 1: to the fine folks of Saudi Arabia. Yes, thank you,

2234
01:47:13,280 --> 01:47:16,720
Speaker 1: all right. Wow that's a hard nosel Come on, I

2235
01:47:16,840 --> 01:47:17,559
Speaker 1: love Robert.

2236
01:47:18,160 --> 01:47:20,599
Speaker 2: Thirsty because it's like desert there.

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01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:23,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying that. I'm not saying I

2238
01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:25,559
Speaker 1: always get you off the right exit. But I do

2239
01:47:25,680 --> 01:47:28,479
Speaker 1: get you, I do, you know? Yeah? Okay, finally, Luke,

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Speaker 1: you know Televin Kip Papa right, our fan from Hawaii. Yes,

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01:47:32,720 --> 01:47:35,720
Speaker 1: he says the Loja guys on episode three nineteen at

2242
01:47:35,720 --> 01:47:38,439
Speaker 1: one oh nine into the video, you guys said, Kimbo

2243
01:47:38,479 --> 01:47:43,280
Speaker 1: Slice versus Seth Petrozzelli was an elite XC event on Showtime,

2244
01:47:43,600 --> 01:47:46,720
Speaker 1: but it was actually an event on CBS, which led

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01:47:46,760 --> 01:47:48,040
Speaker 1: to the promotion folding.

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01:47:48,160 --> 01:47:49,040
Speaker 2: Forgot about that.

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01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:51,280
Speaker 1: That actually was the end. It was the end of

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01:47:51,320 --> 01:47:51,640
Speaker 1: the end.

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01:47:51,720 --> 01:47:54,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, it was the tent. The tent flaps came

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Speaker 2: up after that.

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01:47:55,479 --> 01:47:59,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, all good ps, Luke. Keep drinking the way you

2252
01:47:59,640 --> 01:48:02,760
Speaker 1: be drink could lead you to becoming governor of Hawaii.

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01:48:05,320 --> 01:48:09,160
Speaker 1: Y'all have a good one. Alohah my god.

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01:48:09,200 --> 01:48:10,640
Speaker 2: That First of all, it's a great zing. But I

2255
01:48:10,640 --> 01:48:12,280
Speaker 2: got to tell you that whole thing about him running

2256
01:48:12,280 --> 01:48:16,400
Speaker 2: for governor, it's just I find it mostly depressing to

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01:48:16,439 --> 01:48:16,920
Speaker 2: be honest with.

2258
01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:19,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you on that morning,

2259
01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:22,960
Speaker 1: Coombat at gmail dot com. We'll get you fan subs

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01:48:23,000 --> 01:48:25,320
Speaker 1: on Wednesday. Dead wrong.

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01:48:26,040 --> 01:48:28,080
Speaker 2: I will say one thing about these dead wrongs that

2262
01:48:28,120 --> 01:48:30,320
Speaker 2: people fail to appreciate that we have to feel it

2263
01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:32,280
Speaker 2: because obviously we say stupid shit and then people call

2264
01:48:32,360 --> 01:48:36,960
Speaker 2: us outn't it. Our audience is very international, and so

2265
01:48:37,160 --> 01:48:39,479
Speaker 2: we can't get away. I mean, we still are, but

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01:48:39,560 --> 01:48:42,120
Speaker 2: we can't well, I'll say this, we can't fully get

2267
01:48:42,160 --> 01:48:45,360
Speaker 2: away with being some ignorant Americans who can just say

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01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:47,960
Speaker 2: whatever they want. And it's like, you know, oh uh,

2269
01:48:48,080 --> 01:48:49,599
Speaker 2: you know, whenever I go to a place, I expect

2270
01:48:49,640 --> 01:48:51,799
Speaker 2: them to speak English and all that bullshit. Our audience

2271
01:48:51,840 --> 01:48:54,400
Speaker 2: won't let us do that. There. It's a worldly audience

2272
01:48:54,439 --> 01:48:56,080
Speaker 2: and they take us the task.

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01:48:56,600 --> 01:48:58,840
Speaker 1: But even though I respect our worldly audience, if I

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01:48:58,880 --> 01:49:00,760
Speaker 1: go to your place and you're toilet is a hole

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01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:02,840
Speaker 1: on the floor, I'm not gonna have good things to

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01:49:02,840 --> 01:49:03,559
Speaker 1: say about your place.

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Speaker 2: Luke, you know what I would like to say, that's unfair,

2278
01:49:07,160 --> 01:49:08,760
Speaker 2: But I have traveled to these places and I have

2279
01:49:08,840 --> 01:49:11,200
Speaker 2: also found that unpleasant, and so I'm gonna I'm gonna

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01:49:11,200 --> 01:49:11,800
Speaker 2: co sign on.

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01:49:11,760 --> 01:49:14,439
Speaker 1: That thank you, thank you. I mean, can you put

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01:49:14,600 --> 01:49:18,120
Speaker 1: a seat on it. At least something I told you.

2283
01:49:18,200 --> 01:49:20,880
Speaker 2: I told you in the middle of fucking Istanbul. This

2284
01:49:20,920 --> 01:49:24,200
Speaker 2: guy was charging one lira to tear pages out of

2285
01:49:24,240 --> 01:49:26,960
Speaker 2: a phone book to go wipe your rear end. And

2286
01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:29,800
Speaker 2: I was like, no, don't get me wrong, Like there

2287
01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:32,280
Speaker 2: was a lot of like most places in Istanbul are

2288
01:49:32,320 --> 01:49:34,200
Speaker 2: not like this, but like in the old quarter where

2289
01:49:34,200 --> 01:49:36,200
Speaker 2: the you know places has been around for centuries or whatever.

2290
01:49:36,479 --> 01:49:38,680
Speaker 2: Like in the new places like Bashiktas and whatever, it

2291
01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:43,360
Speaker 2: was fine. But in some of the old quarters. Bro, Nope, nope,

2292
01:49:43,520 --> 01:49:46,160
Speaker 2: not gonna say nice things about that. Nope, sorry, not

2293
01:49:46,160 --> 01:49:46,720
Speaker 2: gonna do that.

2294
01:49:46,840 --> 01:49:48,479
Speaker 1: If you want me to visit your country, do a

2295
01:49:48,479 --> 01:49:51,160
Speaker 1: live MK and your city. If we do WWF in

2296
01:49:51,240 --> 01:49:53,840
Speaker 1: your house MK style, you better not have just a

2297
01:49:53,880 --> 01:49:54,439
Speaker 1: hole floor.

2298
01:49:54,560 --> 01:49:57,920
Speaker 2: Is stan Bull's cool? Though, it's cool? Istanbul's cool? All right?

2299
01:49:58,280 --> 01:49:58,719
Speaker 2: All right?

2300
01:49:58,880 --> 01:50:01,519
Speaker 1: I had another good cooking, but I think I lost it.

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01:50:01,560 --> 01:50:05,040
Speaker 2: Look, it's not a constantinople in the moneyman or some shit.

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01:50:06,200 --> 01:50:07,920
Speaker 1: H No, no, it was it. I forgot what we

2303
01:50:07,920 --> 01:50:09,960
Speaker 1: were even talking about, Luke, But I think it's time

2304
01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:12,519
Speaker 1: to wrap this shit up. Anyway. Here's a nice reminder, though,

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Speaker 1: morningcombat dot store right now through Monday, twenty percent off.

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Speaker 1: Yes everything. Okay, we want you if you've been holding

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Speaker 1: out saying, oh I want to support these guys, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Now's your time. We got international flat

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Speaker 1: Get your twenty percent look good the summer, the winter,

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Speaker 1: whatever you're into. Okay, we got winter. We got all

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Speaker 1: that shit, so uh check that out. You know about

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Speaker 1: Showtime dot Com. You know, Championship Boxing is back nine

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Speaker 1: pm Eastern on Saturday. Bellatour will be lingering right around

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Speaker 1: the corner from that, and you can only get it

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Speaker 1: by going to Showtime dot Com for your thirty days

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Speaker 1: for free right now. It's the easiest, is really what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. You want it for free? Try it out.

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Speaker 1: Take a test drive, okay, you know what I'm saying, Like,

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Speaker 1: you don't have to abstain until marriage. Take the test driving,

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Speaker 1: bang showtime, and if you're not gonna pound sand at

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Speaker 1: the end, you're probably gonna get off and like it.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Luke.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of statements you're making there and I

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Speaker 2: couldn't follow half of them.

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Speaker 1: Okay, there you go, follow me to unemployment by his BC.

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Speaker 1: Thank you anything else, Luke, you had anything else for that?

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna do my live chat. I didn't do it

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Speaker 2: yesterday because I was tired as balls, but I feel

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Speaker 2: a lot better today. So today at three pm three

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Speaker 2: pm East Coast times on about two hours, I am

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Speaker 2: going to do my live chat. You can check that

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Speaker 2: out YouTube dot com slash Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 1: Make sure to bring your roubles and lira for that

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Speaker 1: super chat, Luke. That can get you right to the

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Speaker 1: front of the line.

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Speaker 2: You're so bitter about that. I'm still paying off that

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Speaker 2: office disaster that I have to do, so they're very

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Speaker 2: critical to that.

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Speaker 1: Believe me, luc In hindsight, what wrong with the office?

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Speaker 2: The idea to get everything about the concept of it

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Speaker 2: was correct. It was the execution and the lack of

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Speaker 2: because when you tore these places, they don't you don't

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Speaker 2: get We didn't tour it with e quipment and I

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Speaker 2: just wasn't thinking straight. It would just need a lot

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Speaker 2: of sound treatment that would be too difficult to do

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Speaker 2: for the amount of effort that would go into it. Also,

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Speaker 2: like I'm gonna, like, my wife's brother in law was

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Speaker 2: living with us, but now he's moving to Miami. He

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Speaker 2: actually bought a place down there, So now I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: have downstairs, like the whole area down there, which is

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Speaker 2: fully carpeted, by the way, which is great for sound like.

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Speaker 2: It just doesn't that money. If I had it to

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Speaker 2: go to an office where I could sound treat it properly,

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Speaker 2: it would make a lot of sense. But it doesn't

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Speaker 2: make sense for it in the current condition. So right,

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Speaker 2: idea bad it, as we say in the Marine Corps,

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Speaker 2: good initiative, bad judgment.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, simplify, never die.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: It goes without saying that Uncle Pepe broke in that

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Speaker 1: basement once or twice.

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Speaker 2: Luke, what.

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Speaker 1: Pepe basement? Libido? You can do the math.

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Speaker 2: I think you're just making the dumbet. Can we go?

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Speaker 2: Can we go?

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Speaker 1: Guy? I mean not only all right? Sorry, Luke, that'll

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Speaker 1: be it.

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Speaker 2: Luke.

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Speaker 1: Did you ever use a bidet? That's what I was

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Speaker 1: gonna ask you earlier. I had a whole bit.

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Speaker 2: Have I ever used one in my life?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Did you like it?

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Speaker 2: Take some? Getting used to take some? Get?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? So does a prostate example, Luke, all right, there

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Speaker 1: you see.

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Speaker 2: You're you're not thinking of the middle ground. There are

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Speaker 2: countries I've been to where you do actually have a

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Speaker 2: real commode to sit on, and you use paper, but

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Speaker 2: the paper doesn't go in the toilet. It goes in

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Speaker 2: the trash even after you use it. Even that is

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Speaker 2: pretty trifling. I gotta say. That's true.

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Speaker 1: God, this this is wow. All right, that's it for

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Speaker 1: our show this week. Enjoy the fights this weekend. Uh, Luke,

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Speaker 1: I got some time issues next week. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: what next week's gonna look like. But if you want to,

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Speaker 1: if you want me, I'll be there.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll figure something out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean we'll make we'll make magic happen.

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Speaker 1: If you want to see us on the road live,

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Speaker 1: a way to maybe make that happen vote for us

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Speaker 1: podcast awards called the People's Choice Podcast Group. There, Luke,

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Speaker 1: if we can flow, can we put that thing out

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Speaker 1: one more time?

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Speaker 2: Jesus, can we end the show for Best.

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Speaker 1: Male Hosted Show, Best Sports Podcast? Can we put that lower?

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Speaker 1: That thing with the all right, we don't have a

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Speaker 1: lower for that, okay. Check it out on our YouTube description.

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Speaker 1: Top of the sentence. You click on that you vote

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Speaker 1: for it. Luke, I don't dude, you think I want

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Speaker 1: to end this show properly? Luke, why don't we just

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Speaker 1: go all right for Long Island Luke and Gaff on

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Speaker 1: the ones and twos. That's Luke Thomas right there. I'm

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell. May all of your ex lovers stay satisfied.