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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you should know from the house stuff

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Speaker 1: Works dot Com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Josh Clark. There's Charles to Be, Chuck Bryant, there's guest

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Speaker 1: producer Noel and this is stuff you should have to do.

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Speaker 1: Do do do the Pez dition? Nice? I like that.

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Speaker 1: Another NOL cast as well. Yeah, pretty exciting. It's part

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Speaker 1: of the Knoll spin Wee, then ole stint We're gonna follow. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Do you like pets? But I like pets? Do you

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Speaker 1: like the candy? I? Do you like taste? I like

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Speaker 1: the taste of Pez. Yes. Describe to me what happens

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Speaker 1: when you can put a candy PEZ candy in your mound. Well,

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Speaker 1: I put a PEZ candy, I pull the head back,

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Speaker 1: the kicker kicks it out pop. Yes, nice, and I

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Speaker 1: take it from the Pez dispenser with my tooth. Oh

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Speaker 1: you don't really, you'd like go mouth the mouth with it? Sure? Well,

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Speaker 1: to tooth to kicker. Okay? Uh? And then I, um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: what do you do use your hand? Well? I don't

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Speaker 1: eat petz, but back when I was eight, I would

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Speaker 1: be delighted when I would pull the head back the

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Speaker 1: little candy with chewed out now, pick it out with

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Speaker 1: my hand, put in my mouth. Yeah, I use my teeth. Interesting,

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Speaker 1: I would feel like I was like going into to

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Speaker 1: make out with a daffy duck or something if I

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Speaker 1: did that. Oh that's half the fun. Oh boy. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: I don't care for the candy though. I wasn't done

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Speaker 1: describing pez go ahead, sorry, And then I take it

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Speaker 1: onto my tongue, right, and I start to savor the

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Speaker 1: flavor of it. Typically I prefer maybe um, well, definitely

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Speaker 1: one of the fruit flavors. I've never had a mint

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Speaker 1: pez or chocolate pets, which is new. I would try

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Speaker 1: the chocolate one, but say, like orange, We'll just go

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Speaker 1: with orange. I'm sitting there. I let it sit on

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Speaker 1: my tongue for all of like six nanoseconds, and then

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Speaker 1: I started to bite into it, and it's very much

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Speaker 1: like um. This explains why I like pests, especially orange pests.

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Speaker 1: Once eight almost an entire bottle of orange flavored baby

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Speaker 1: aspirin for the taste. That's why I like pests. How

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Speaker 1: old were you then? Would be a kid? It's like

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Speaker 1: twenty something? Uh did it? Yes? I was a kid?

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Speaker 1: Well did you? What did it hurt? You know? Nothing

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Speaker 1: happened to me. We talked about that before. It feel

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Speaker 1: like because they aren't even it isn't even medicine. I

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Speaker 1: wonder it's But how could you use a placebo and

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Speaker 1: a little kid? I mean, I guess it worked, but

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Speaker 1: certainly there's an age where they're just like I feel

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Speaker 1: like half of parenting is probably placebo. Probably, well you

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Speaker 1: would know now, well not yet, Well let me know

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Speaker 1: she doesn't believe my lies yet. That will come later. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm surely kids are pretty dumb, so you

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Speaker 1: can get them to believe anything. Sure, but there seems

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Speaker 1: like there would be an age where they wouldn't They

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Speaker 1: wouldn't make that connection, and a placebo wouldn't work. I

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Speaker 1: don't think a placebo would work, like say, from birth.

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Speaker 1: And I don't remember what age you can start giving

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Speaker 1: kids baby aspirin. Baby don't even children as Anyway. I

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Speaker 1: like PEZ. I like how it tastes. I like the

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Speaker 1: experience of eating a pet alright, I don't care for pets.

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Speaker 1: I also like the shape, the brick, the brick, the

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Speaker 1: it helps with the taste. I saw we did the

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Speaker 1: l a podcast pest this last weekend, and I can't

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Speaker 1: remember her name, but a very nice young lady brought

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Speaker 1: us some different candies and things. The Lego candies. Well,

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Speaker 1: you jumped on that bag. It's like you want these

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Speaker 1: lego brick candies and you're like, yea, give me a

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Speaker 1: second time, man, I love those things. Yeah, And that's

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Speaker 1: sort of this. I put those on the same category,

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Speaker 1: which is just like compressed sugar right in like a

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Speaker 1: brick form. As a matter of fact, it turns out

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Speaker 1: the Pez company to the state uses about fifty thousand

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Speaker 1: pounds of sugar every four days making its Pez candies.

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Speaker 1: That's right. And here's a factoid for you, all right.

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Speaker 1: It takes three thousand pounds of pressure to compress the

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Speaker 1: Pez ingredients, which is not just sugar, into the delightful, tiny,

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Speaker 1: disgusting brick that you love. I don't think it's disgusting.

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Speaker 1: I don't like candies. I have another one for you.

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Speaker 1: They make twelve million tablets a day at their Orange,

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Speaker 1: Connecticut facility, the headquarters of PETS, and three billion Pez

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Speaker 1: bricks are consumed in the US alone each year by

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Speaker 1: people like me who like Pez. Yes, roughly twelve at

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Speaker 1: a time, because that's how much the standard dispenser holds

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Speaker 1: and if this kind of thing floats your boat right now,

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Speaker 1: go check out how Stuff Works brain Stuff series on

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Speaker 1: YouTube and typically look up the one on pop rocks

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Speaker 1: that I did a year or two ago. It was

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Speaker 1: really interesting stuff. Candy manufacturing is fascinating. I don't care

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Speaker 1: what you say. No, I like manufacturing processes. I just

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Speaker 1: don't like to eat candy. I got you. You know

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Speaker 1: what I mean? You just go to the plant watch

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Speaker 1: it made and then turn down the free samples, like, no,

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Speaker 1: thank you. I find that disgust. Yeah. They're like, now,

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Speaker 1: would you like to try some? Yeah? I don't do

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Speaker 1: that on beer tours, I'll sample that. You mean. I

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Speaker 1: went to the Maker's mark distillery. Oh did you dip

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Speaker 1: your own bottle? Yes? No, yes, we definitely have one,

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Speaker 1: but I don't remember if we. I guess we did

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Speaker 1: was like a mini, so maybe not. Maybe we bought

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Speaker 1: a mini that was like just a mini to commemorate it,

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Speaker 1: and they made you buy like a fifth or something

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Speaker 1: and dip your own bottle and we're like, ma, got

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Speaker 1: it's fine, because we we'd be like we would want

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Speaker 1: to open it. Yeah, we didn't dip our own body forgot.

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Speaker 1: That was exactly the conversation we had. Wow, you guys

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Speaker 1: put a lot of thought into that one. Anyway, it's

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Speaker 1: a pretty cool tour, to tell you the truth. I

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Speaker 1: strongly recommended. I've never done a distillery. I'd like to

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Speaker 1: do that. There's there's a new one here in Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: in Avondale Whiskey Distillery. Well, I can tell you go

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Speaker 1: on any whiskey tour and you will find what Mila

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Speaker 1: Kunis is talking about with the angels share stuff. It's

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Speaker 1: a real thing. The evaporating whiskey fills the um whatever

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Speaker 1: really dangerous, like the place could blow up at any

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Speaker 1: time because like very much so, we're a sugar factor, right, um.

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Speaker 1: But the smell is one of the most amazing smells

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Speaker 1: It's amazing. Oh man, that I'm thirsty, all right, So

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Speaker 1: let's talk pez um in two thousand eleven. This is

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Speaker 1: something I didn't know. There was a wedding while I

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Speaker 1: didn't know this part um in the United Kingdom between

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Speaker 1: a guy named William and a little lady named Kate

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Speaker 1: Waity Katie? Do people call her that? Some? Some people did,

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Speaker 1: what like that she's overweight? No? No, that she waited around?

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Speaker 1: Oh okay? It was like, man, how mean can people get? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: That would So they made um specialty pez dispensers out

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Speaker 1: of Prince William and Kate for that and they were expensive,

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Speaker 1: three d sixty dollars at a charity auction. Clearly that's

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Speaker 1: the most expensive Pezz dispenser ever sold. Not so, my friend,

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Speaker 1: what supposedly that is the thirty two thousand dollars in

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Speaker 1: two thousand and six for an astronaut limited edition Astronaut

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Speaker 1: themed It was from the two World's Fair and there

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Speaker 1: were two of them too in existence. Yeah, that's why

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Speaker 1: it's expensive. And what's neat is that that's that was

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Speaker 1: That auction took place on eBay, which is very appropriate

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Speaker 1: that Peest dispensers are sold on eBay because the guy

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Speaker 1: who founded eBay, what's his name, Pierre Um, Pierre R. Right,

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Speaker 1: He Um founded eBay and party he was inspired to

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Speaker 1: he thought, hey, this would be a really great We

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Speaker 1: may not have eBay today if it weren't for petz

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Speaker 1: peest dispensers electing peest dispensers, which is a relatively new thing.

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Speaker 1: It really took off in the eighties late eighties. Actually

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Speaker 1: it wasn't until the late eighties that people really started

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Speaker 1: collecting peest dispensers. And now I felt, you know, the

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Speaker 1: tweete Bird episode. I had to go back and look

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Speaker 1: it up. But once I did, I started to remember, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think Elaine and Jerry and George Ritta George's girlfriend's

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Speaker 1: piano recital, and Jerry put the tweetie Bird pest dispenser

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Speaker 1: on this laper on Elane's lap, and Elaine started laughing,

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Speaker 1: then the tweety bird um Pez dispenser also factored into

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Speaker 1: for another friend who had a drug problem and he

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Speaker 1: was resisting resisting, and then for some reason Jerry brought

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Speaker 1: out the Pets dispenser. In the wave of nostalgia that

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Speaker 1: had a drug problem, but then he became hooked on pest.

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Speaker 1: Well in nostalgia figures in a lot, Uh, it really does.

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Speaker 1: Kids from the well, kids of all ages grew up

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Speaker 1: with pez kids of all ages? What am I circus announcer?

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Speaker 1: circus ring master, circus barker. Well, there's two different Those

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Speaker 1: that's I would be. But the barkers, the one who's like,

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Speaker 1: trying to get people to come in. The ring masters,

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Speaker 1: I feel like i'd be the barker. Would you need

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Speaker 1: to be the ringmaster? You'd have to wear a straw

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Speaker 1: boater hat and like striped suits. Yeah, I'd be the barker,

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Speaker 1: and you'd be the guy that like swings from things

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Speaker 1: my teeth jammed into the trapeze bar. Still, well, you

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Speaker 1: like a Loonington's cartoon, now, yeah, but imagine it in

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Speaker 1: and I think we should uh start in the traditional

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Speaker 1: about history, because well though I thought it was a

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Speaker 1: pretty interesting history. Actually, yeah, I love this article. Edward

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Speaker 1: Hass the third he was an Austrian. Um he was

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Speaker 1: He made sweets. He was a confection ere. Well, his

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Speaker 1: family was in the grocery business, and he was successful

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Speaker 1: in that. But yeah, his heart was in candy like yours.

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Speaker 1: His heart was in candy. It was also in hygiene.

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Speaker 1: I get the impression that he was very strong germophobe.

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Speaker 1: Well it's probably good when you're running a candy factory. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you know. He was also anti smoking, and he decided

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Speaker 1: he went to a chemist, uh pharmacist, and said, hey,

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Speaker 1: give me some really strong pepperman essence. And he used

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Speaker 1: that with some sugar and made mints, basically a proto

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Speaker 1: altoid um, and put him in little tins and marketed

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Speaker 1: him as quitting smoking or smoking cessation a. Basically, if

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Speaker 1: you're trying to quit, you needed something to put in

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Speaker 1: your mouth, just chew one of these Pez mints. That's right.

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Speaker 1: And he got the name Pez from the abbreviation the

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Speaker 1: German word for peppermint, which is uh. It starts with

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Speaker 1: three consonants, which is always fun. Come on, you took German,

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Speaker 1: you know Germany? Well, I mean I would just say, uh,

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Speaker 1: fefa mints. I would say, I like that better. That

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Speaker 1: From that point not and they realized, like white people

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00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 1: are collecting these. There's like a secondary market that's generated

421
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: exactly um and so they added feet to it. So

422
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: now a Pezz dispencer can stand up. But that was

423
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 1: introduced in seven. So if you see feet on your

424
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 1: Pezz dispencer, you know that it's at least un on.

425
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: All right, So let's take another quick break here and

426
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 1: we will come back and talk a little bit more

427
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 1: about the odd collecting of Pez dispensers. So, Chuck, people

428
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 1: started collecting pezz dispensers partly because they came of age

429
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 1: at a time about the mid eighties when they were

430
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,400
Speaker 1: high on cocaine and had a lot of disposable come

431
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 1: and we're nostalgic for their childhood. Yeah, I have a theory,

432
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: and it's not like I'm sure everyone knows this, but

433
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 1: I think pest dispensers became collectible because you can't throw

434
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: throw it away like you would eat the candy and

435
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? As a kid, you can

436
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 1: be like, let me throw away this Garfield toy. Now, well,

437
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 1: not only that, you can know you put it on

438
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: your chef, right, your chef, You're like standing still, chef,

439
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: stop making that stew weird. So I can put this

440
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: penticipencer on the bullion. These can wait. Um, but thet

441
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: the whole thing is they're reloadable like that. You get

442
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: the little U the little packet of twelve, pop it

443
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: in there and you want more, like if it's uh,

444
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: it's one of those same deals like collect all four.

445
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: But this is not all four. This is constantly new

446
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: licensing deals being cooked up, everything from Looney Tunes to

447
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: Star Wars to Hello Kitty. Which was the other stoke

448
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 1: of genius was partnering up with these uh I kind

449
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 1: of brands and cultural icons to uh to say, hey,

450
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: a Chewbacca head on this thing, like they're grown adults

451
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: little by that. Right. The thing is is Lucasfilm. Uh

452
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: definitely charges a pretty penny, or did before they sold

453
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: the Disney and now it's even more. I'm sure to

454
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 1: license anything from Star Wars. Right. So, PEZ also very

455
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: frequently came up with their own stuff as well. Uh,

456
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: there were the Pez Pals. There was a very famous

457
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 1: misstep called make a Face Pez, which is like a

458
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: tiny Mr. Potato head where you could put on different

459
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: eyes and mouth and stuff. But of course these things

460
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 1: were a major choking Hatzard and Actually, there's a lore

461
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 1: among Pez collectors, who are called pez heads that if

462
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: you look at some of the nineteen seventy nineteen seventy

463
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: three Indian chiefs that were released, their head dresses um

464
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: are marbled. They have marbled color, and they're saying that

465
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: those are ground up make a face um dispensers that

466
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: they reused in the head dresses. That sounds like a

467
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 1: peaz enthusiast conspiracy theory, but it's pretty cool. And another

468
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: one that they released was a series for the bi

469
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: centennial that includes the funniest character of all time, in

470
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: my opinion, the colonial soldier with a head wound. Okay,

471
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: I thought you can save the Paul Revere. I think

472
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: there is a Paul Revere. No there is, which is

473
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: I thought would be a pretty weird there's a Paul

474
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: Revere Daniel Boone who looks like he has like a

475
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 1: a well formed bee hive on his head rather than

476
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: a coonskin cap. Uncle Sam, Yeah, there's a Betsy Ross uh.

477
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: And then there's the wound, the head wound soldier. He's

478
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: got like that white gauze on his head with a

479
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: little blood dot coming through, and he looks just kind

480
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: of out of it. It's a really weird peasant spencer.

481
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 1: That was probably my favorite, although I like a lot

482
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: of the the Halloween themed ones from the seventies. Some

483
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: of those glow in the dark, which is pretty neat,

484
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 1: Like Mr Skull. Did you see him? Their Doctor Skull?

485
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: I think I think he's probably my favorite. Or the

486
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: Pumpkin from the seventies on the green stem is probably

487
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,719
Speaker 1: the best pezz dis spencer of all time. Well, there

488
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 1: have been four hundred more than four hundred and fifty

489
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: dispenser since nineteen including three different Santas, and the Santa

490
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: is the best selling of all time, which makes sense,

491
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: of course, especially the first one because he was his

492
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: His dispenser wasn't just a little peas spencer. It was

493
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: like the whole body. But then they're like this is

494
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: way too expensive. Yeah, they're like a bunch of people

495
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 1: just buy it with the head. Yeah, And they did

496
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: the Salvador Dolly tribute. I don't know if it's a tribute.

497
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: I bet it was. Um is my favorite in the

498
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: psychedelic hand. It was a hand with a green eyeball

499
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: and it's just very cool looking. Yeah, like I would

500
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: I would want one of those. Of course, I wouldn't

501
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: pay thousands of dollars for it. I'd like to just

502
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: find one on the street. And it's pretty neat. Though. Yeah,

503
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: do all of them cost that much? But what that

504
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: specific collectible? No? But I mean would say they ranged

505
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: in the hundreds and it's real. But what was interesting

506
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: about this? Um? I think Patrick Kiger pointed out, like

507
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: it's compared to a lot of other collecting hobbies, this

508
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: is Pez dispensers are relatively cheap. You can get into

509
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: him pretty easily with you know, a minimal amount of money. Um.

510
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: One of my favorite Pez dispensers is the Pez Gun series.

511
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: First it was a ray gun, and then they made

512
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: it into a handgun, and then when Star Wars came

513
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: out in like, they released another space gun that looked

514
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: an awful lot like Han Solo's gun, but it wasn't

515
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: really sem um, but the kid would put the gun

516
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: in his mouth and pull the trigger to dispense the

517
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: can Wow. Yeah really yeah, unbelievable. They have had some

518
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: kind of weird ones over the years, like the Airline

519
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: Pilot and Stewardess, which I don't know is that a

520
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: big seller? I don't know. Well this was back in

521
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: the day. I think when they were they were revered

522
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: figures and culture. Yeah, the pilots weren't drunks, and the

523
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: flight attendants weren't flight attendants. They were stewardesses, and they

524
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: were you know, fancy clothes, and but they have like

525
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: hard chiseled features. They look like they look like real people.

526
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: They look like pilots and flight attendants from the Mother

527
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: Road during the depression or something, you know, like really

528
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: chiseled features. And actually, apparently the Pets Company says that

529
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: they very infrequently do real life humans. Those those bicentennial

530
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: figures were the first humans they ever did a real

531
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: life humans, I should say, And they didn't even do

532
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: fictitious ones very often, like a stewardess or the pilot um,

533
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: because they just found that the human face wasn't nearly

534
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: as interesting as say, like a bubble man. Yeah, you know,

535
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: in two thousand and six they issue the first ever

536
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: Pets dispensers of living humans when they decided to pay

537
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: tribute to the fellas from Orange County. Chopper makes me

538
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: so sad that goes down in history is the worst

539
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: one ever. But I mean, those were the first guys

540
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: to ever have living Why why a licensing deal? And

541
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: it opened the floodgates after that, After that it was on.

542
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: There's like a kiss collectors set. Well, of course because

543
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: Gene Simmons and he'll put his face on anything. Um.

544
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: There was what else, Well, people get turned down a

545
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: lot um. You said that other little fact sheet. Kim

546
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: Kardashian wanted a pet dispenser. Um, they said no, Yeah,

547
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: they turned down people all the time because apparently everybody

548
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: wants one. I would suggest just go make your own

549
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: babble heead because you can get that done. It sounds

550
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: the same. Well, you could just put candy in your

551
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: bubble heads. There are newsletters, there's a pez Collector's news,

552
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: there are conventions, and there is even a museum that

553
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: a husband and wife started in California that started out

554
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: weirdly as a museum for computers and Pezz dispensers. I know,

555
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: I think they were a computer sales company. Oh. I

556
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: thought they displayed like vintage computers. I think they Yeah,

557
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: it was a computer dealer and they they were selling computers,

558
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: and just to kind of make the place look a

559
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: little more interesting, they also displayed pees dispensers and they

560
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: found that people were way more interested in coming to

561
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: see the Pez dispencers and weren't buying computers, so they

562
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: transitioned over to a straight up Pez museum, the pez

563
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: um or the Museum of Pez Memorabilium, Berlingame, California. Yeah,

564
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: and you can pay some money to go in there

565
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: and look at all their rare and vintage peest dispensers.

566
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: They have one. He paid three grand for the pineapple

567
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: wearing sunglasses because in the early seventies thing. Yeah, it's

568
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: nothing special to look at, but again it's rarity. They

569
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: didn't make many of them because it was ugly. Probably, Yeah,

570
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: that's kind of cute. Did you did you like the

571
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: California raisins? Yes, okay, that explains it. Have you seen

572
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: straight out accounting? Uh? No, not yet. It's a good

573
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: Oh you haven't seen that yet. I haven't been to

574
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: any movies. You should. The California raisins appear by mentioned.

575
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: They're mentioned in a surprising way. I look forward to

576
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: seeing that on television. You should go see it, man, Yeah,

577
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: all right, we'll go see it in the movie here.

578
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: What else? Uh? They tried vitamins for a little while. Yeah,

579
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: I didn't think that was a bad idea. Put a

580
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: little vitamin c in there, parents might be more willing

581
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: to throw up some money for the for the kid.

582
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: But um, they said, no, we're not in the vitamin business.

583
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: Let's just stick to the sugary pressed candy. No. And

584
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: the guy who said that was a guy named Scott mcwinnie,

585
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: And Scott mcwinnie was president. He started out I think

586
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: General Mills or something or General Foods, and um he

587
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: moved his way over to Pez in the nineties or

588
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: the eighties, No, the eighties, because that quote was from

589
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: he was president of Peza and he um, much to

590
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: his chagrin, got into a um a war, basically an

591
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: economic war with the guy who was known as the

592
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: Pez Outlaw. Yeah, you dug this up. This was really interesting. Uh.

593
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: The article what was it called. It was a terrible

594
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: title like Michigan farmer makes four million dollars in Pezz

595
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: dispensers in three years or something. It's a terrible title.

596
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: Should have been called the Pez Outlaw. But it was

597
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: in Playboy and it was pretty good long form reporting. Yeah,

598
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: basically what happened was in the nineties a dude uh

599
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: named Steve glee U G l e W. Found out that, hey,

600
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 1: over in Canada, they're selling different dispensers that you can't

601
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: get here in the United States. So let me go

602
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: over there, let me buy some of these and resell

603
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: them to collectors. And it worked, and all of a sudden,

604
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: the light bulb went off and he said, at think

605
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: I can actually make money getting Pez dispensers from other countries.

606
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: And he found a hook up that mysterious woman who

607
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 1: approached him from the Eastern Bloc wherever she was from, Yeah,

608
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: and he ended up. He and his son Joshua Um

609
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: started making trips to Central Europe, um oftentimes right along

610
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: the border of like war torn Croatia, and found these

611
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: factories where Pez is being made, and found very bribable

612
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 1: factory workers who would take like molds and make um

613
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 1: new PEZ dispensers to his liking. And then he would

614
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: sell them as like basically like Pez freaks or or

615
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: one offs or something, and for hundreds and hundreds of dollars.

616
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: But he would spend a quarter or maybe a dollar

617
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: on each and he supposedly made quite a bit of money.

618
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: He claims four million. Yeah, I believe it. For if

619
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: they made the number of trips that they were making.

620
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 1: I think that he did. His downfall was that he

621
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: overextended himself. He took out a massive own and uh

622
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: basically hired a factory to make a bunch of misfit

623
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: Pez dispensers and downfall, and Mark mcwinney took him on

624
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: and started releasing basically Pez's own version of these counterfeit

625
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: weirdo dispensers at a lower price and drove the dude

626
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 1: out of business. This could be a little documentary easy,

627
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: you know easy. Also that reminds me. Have you ever

628
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: seen the Jellybelly documentary? Oh, it's so sad, but it's

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Speaker 1: so good. What's it called? I don't remember. Just look

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Speaker 1: up Jellybelly documentary and weird owls in it. Oh wow, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Well then I definitely won't see it. No, you really should, man,

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Speaker 1: it's a great documentary. It's just it's very sad. And

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Speaker 1: that one and the show Biz Pizza one documents to Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I used to love show biz. You will love this documentary.

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00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,959
Speaker 1: I like show biz more than Chucky cheese. Even there's

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Speaker 1: a huge backstory to it that you were unaware of.

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Speaker 1: Can I read you this one? Xta. This is from

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00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: the story about the Pez Outlaw. Uh. A nineteen toy

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00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: convention changed Steve's life forever. As he tells it, a

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Speaker 1: mysterious woman opened her jacket and showed him a silver

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00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: globe PEZ holy grail for PEZ collectors. She whispered to

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Speaker 1: him in broken English, there are many more where I

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Speaker 1: come from. Let's go great. Do you believe that? And

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00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: then she get the field she was like two guys

645
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: in overcoats and sunglasses came in like hurried her away.

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00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: He said, but but what's your name? Or two centambites

647
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: came out of the woodwork and like pulled her down

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Speaker 1: to hell. Ivanka. Uh yeah, it's a pretty good article.

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Speaker 1: Look up stupid title Michigan Farmer, PEZ playboy and it'll

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Speaker 1: bring it up. I think long Form had it at

651
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: one point, speaking of Ivanka, should I talk about Donald Trump?

652
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: Probably not all right? Um. I was surprised when I

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00:37:56,040 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: found out I found mention of like PEZ this was

654
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: being nostalgic. I was like, definitely not for me. Then

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00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: I went to Pez dot com and clicked on Collector's

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00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: Corner and they have well, they have pictures of like

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Speaker 1: every every single one they've released over the years, year

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Speaker 1: by year, and I definitely felt nostalgic. And I don't

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Speaker 1: even think of PEZ is factoring in largely into my

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Speaker 1: childhood at all. Same here, but I was a little nostalgical.

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00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: It's cute, So go to PEZ dot com and check

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Speaker 1: out the collector's corner and I think you will waste

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Speaker 1: a lot of time there. Uh. And I think that's

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Speaker 1: it because Chuck just grabbed the listener mail email, which

665
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: is usually a signal for me to shut up because

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00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: it's mean to me. After the mics aren't recording any

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00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: low please uh. And if you want to know more

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Speaker 1: about PEZ, type that word in the search bar how

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Speaker 1: stuff Works dot com and uh, it's time for listener mail.

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Speaker 1: IMNA call this. You guys are right screw college. Remember

671
00:38:55,560 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 1: when we a little soapbox moment? Was this from the animator? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I thought this is good. Hey, guys, want to shoot

673
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Speaker 1: you a quick email to thank you for mentioning the

674
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Speaker 1: idea that you don't need to go to college for

675
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 1: some professions on the How Publicists Works episode. It really

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00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: struck a chord with me. I'm an animator and I

677
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: desperately wish it would be treated as a trade, which

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00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: it is, and not as a high art form that

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00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: requires a fancy, one hundred thousand dollar degree. Most of

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00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: what I learned I actually learned on the job. Got

681
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: almost nothing from my college classes, while the contacts I

682
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: made in college were very valuable down the road. And

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00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: nothing is quite as nice is moving out and being

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Speaker 1: on your own in art school. It came with a

685
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: hefty price. It is now ten years later. I've been

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Speaker 1: working steadily this whole time, and I'm still paying off

687
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: my college student loans and I make a good amount

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00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: of money. That's just sad. And I know so many

689
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: people were in the same position without but without steady work. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And she says that she worked at adult Swim for

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Speaker 1: a while too. By the way, Uh, there's a stigma

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Speaker 1: about not going to college, and I think it's part

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Speaker 1: of the reason so many people are being crushed by

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Speaker 1: student loan debt. Now it's a very American stigma too.

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Speaker 1: It's not I like that all around the world, stupid Americans.

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Speaker 1: I think there's probably a lot of these kinds of

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Speaker 1: jobs that don't need college degrees out there, like podcaster,

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Speaker 1: and it might be cool to hear a podcast on

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Speaker 1: that sometime. I'm not sure what you call it. Maybe

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00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: how not going to college but landing a nice job

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Speaker 1: and making a living anyway and sticking it to your

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Speaker 1: parents works. Maybe just do one on student loans or something. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: thanks for keeping the company while I animate keep it up.

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Speaker 1: You guys are top notch, and that is Margie. Thanks Margie,

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00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: that was a great email. Agreed. We appreciate that. And

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00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 1: that's not college altogether. Sometimes it's very useful. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just not the end all be all for everyone

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Speaker 1: on the planet to have to go to college. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know it's true. There, I mean, it's true, and

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Speaker 1: I think that there hopefully is a large awakening going

711
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: on because a lot of people say that the current bubble.

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Speaker 1: If you're looking around for the next bubble student loans, yep, uh, yeah,

713
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 1: we should do something about that. Sometimes, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: And actually Margie gave us her um the U R

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Speaker 1: L for her blog. It's m A R J I

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Speaker 1: B O R D N E R dot blogspot dot com.

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Speaker 1: So I imagine you can go check out her stuff

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Speaker 1: there when don't you think? Yes, sir? Nice. So if

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Speaker 1: you want to get in touch with Chuck or me

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Speaker 1: or both of us, or even noel Um. You can

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