1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Hold every day up the Breakfast Club. 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 2: Morning. 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 3: Everybody's d j n V. Just hilarious, charlamage the guy 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 3: we are the breakfast Club lawl the Roses here as well. 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 3: We got a special guest in the building. 6 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: Indeed number one record. 7 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 3: The record is flying on the Chelsea play what every 8 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 3: Hour on the hour. 9 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: Damn there one of my wife's favorite records. 10 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 3: Right now, ladies and gentlemen, Klani welcome. 11 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: Hey, hey guys. Are I'm really good? 12 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: Are you blessed black? How's your energy? 13 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: It's good? Can can I tell you guys something before 14 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 2: we started? Of course, it's very important that during this 15 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 2: hour of my life, I let everyone know that my 16 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 2: name is pronounced Klannie. Otherwise, you guys always. 17 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: Good morning. 18 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: I'm really good. 19 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 4: This might be like a stupid question, but like, why 20 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 4: this right right now? Why have you been correcting people? 21 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: You know what? I feel like I have here and there, 22 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: But then like it just blows under, like nobody cares. 23 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: Everybody just says how they want to say. It's not 24 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: that big of a deal. I have family members who say, 25 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 2: Kilane got you? But do you know, I'm like I'm 26 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: thirty now I'm feeling a little like let's just get 27 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: you know, it's been ten years, say my name wrong 28 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 2: for ten years. 29 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 5: You know we all like to create safe spaces for ourselves. Yeah, 30 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 5: I don't think you can create a safe space of 31 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 5: people calling you out your wrong name, because I think 32 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 5: if I was doing an interview and somebody say Kilana, 33 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 5: and the whole interview pight be thinking I should have 34 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 5: corrected them. 35 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: I should have corrected it. 36 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: I should have corrected But no one wants to be 37 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: that person as like sour as the moment. It's like, 38 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: by the way, scratch that should you know? Well here 39 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: we are now now you guys know yes, Kaylin. 40 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 3: How does it feel fold the number one? How is 41 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 3: that feeling? 42 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,839 Speaker 2: It feels really good. It's been a long time coming. 43 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 2: I've been getting told for the last eight years of 44 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: my life. You know, you're always one song away or 45 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 2: one song away or one song away. We see it 46 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: for you, and so to have the song and everything 47 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: be changing in this way, it's really nice. 48 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 3: You know that was the record. When y'all did it, 49 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 3: did you know that was going to be it? 50 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: No, it was the most accidental thing in the world. 51 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 2: Even making it was accidental, came about accident. I'm in 52 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: La I get a call to come finish this feature. 53 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 2: But the guys like, I'm out to go on this 54 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: massive tour, like, so you have to come finish it 55 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: with me in person. Bring the producers, Come to Miami, 56 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: Bring the producers. We go to Miami and for two 57 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 2: days we just can't figure out this song that we're 58 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: supposed to finish, and we didn't want we didn't want 59 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: to waste the time. So we went to a studio 60 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 2: house with Don Mills, who actually plays a guitar on 61 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 2: the song, and Dre Harris came and the first beat 62 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 2: he played was the folded beat from his boy DK 63 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: the Punisher, and I bring it in the other room 64 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: and I just keep singing this hook and everybody's like, 65 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: that's really cool, Like let's build on it. And we 66 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 2: stayed there for a week. But every single day after, 67 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: you know, we made that song, it'd be the one 68 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: song from the like the camp that we just kept replaying. 69 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: And I hit my label and I was like, I 70 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 2: don't know, like, I know you guys are looking for 71 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 2: what is it. It's like as a junior July at 72 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: this time, I'm not sure. I know you guys are 73 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 2: looking for like the club single the Banger. This is 74 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 2: not that, Like, this isn't really song of the Summer. 75 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 2: I don't, but this feels like an introduction to like 76 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 2: where my mentally musically, my you know, maturation in my 77 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: like my sonic journey. And let me just tease it, like, 78 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 2: let me put it out. You guys don't have to, 79 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: you know, don't freak out. But it feels good and 80 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 2: it just kind of like took its own life and 81 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 2: there we are. 82 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 5: Takes a lot of emotional intelligence to fold the man's 83 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 5: clothes and tell him come get him instead of just 84 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:22,399 Speaker 5: throwing them all over the lawn. 85 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I'm definitely not folding a man's clothes. 86 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 2: Oh well, anyone's close. Yeah, But I think it's a 87 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 2: very nuanced perspective, and I'm watching a lot of people 88 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: be on this, you know, really extreme side of it, 89 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: either like Carolin is way better than me, You're clothes 90 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: of being a trash can, or I'm not taking time 91 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: for that, right, or they're like, yeah, I'm folding instantly, 92 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 2: I'm folding clothes. And asked who cares if they did 93 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 2: wrong in the song, I verbatim say, like I probably 94 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: should have asked for space, but I kind of told 95 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: you to walk away, which means I probably jumped the 96 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: gun and I overreacted, and I need to express to 97 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: you that you did hurt me, but also maybe come 98 00:03:58,520 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: over so we can talk about it. 99 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 6: So it's more of like a. 100 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: Nuanced, mature conversation existing that's kind of like both you 101 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 2: did hurt me, but we also need to speak and 102 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: I also might have not you know, handled this the 103 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: right way. And let's just get in the same place 104 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: and get in each other's face and come talk about it. 105 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna use your clothes, bait. 106 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 6: I like that guy like accountability. 107 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 5: Yeah no, goh, you're choosing vulnerability over wearing emotional armor. 108 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. 109 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: So, so what shifted in your real life that allowed 110 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: that change? 111 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 2: I think something happens when you you know you're turning thirty, 112 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 2: I mean, astrologically, something major happens. You go through a 113 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: side and return and outside of that, I just I've 114 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 2: been through a lot in the last couple of years. 115 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 2: I've really spent, you know, making the changes I needed 116 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 2: to make. I know I saw you guys last time 117 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: we talked about mental health and all those you know, 118 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 2: it's been a year since then. I think when I 119 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 2: came to you guys last time, I was a week 120 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: into being diagnosed. I just started medication. I'm not a 121 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 2: year into like that journey. Very settled in, very in 122 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: my routine, very very healthy, and being able to assess 123 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 2: myself and assess my situations and you know, just be 124 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 2: on top of my stuff. Honestly, that allowed me to 125 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 2: be able to come to a place to write from 126 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 2: the perspective I'm able to write from now. 127 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 3: Were you ever on the other side, meaning where you 128 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 3: have the person to throw the clothes in the bag 129 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 3: and then throw the closes out the window? 130 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 2: For sure? First of course, Yeah, I've been like a 131 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 2: twenty five year old girl before. Yeah, for sure. 132 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 4: What has your journey been like since you said the 133 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 4: last time they saw you it was like first week 134 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 4: of Yeah, you know, what has your personal journey been like? 135 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 4: You know, using your medicines now and kind of understanding 136 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 4: you know your body and your mental that what is 137 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 4: that up and down or consistency been like? 138 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 6: It hasn't been different for you? 139 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? 140 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 2: I mean, bipolar disorder is a really layered thing that 141 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 2: also because it's so stigmatized in the world, and there's 142 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 2: so many jokes about it that I think people get 143 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: really confused, you know, they think, Okay, I woke up 144 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 2: with an attitude, and then later on I felt better than 145 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 2: I had an attitude. Again, so I'm bipolar. It's a way bigger, 146 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: deeper thing than that. And I think medicine and my 147 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,239 Speaker 2: thing therapy journey gave me the opportunity to have thought 148 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 2: applied to my mood and thought applied to situations when 149 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 2: you know, other like, in other ways, I wouldn't have 150 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 2: had the thought. I would have just felt it and 151 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 2: it would have just left, and next thing you know, 152 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 2: there's episodical things happening, and next thing you know, I'm 153 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 2: just gone with the wind. But this, I wouldn't say 154 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: it stops it completely, but it really allows you to 155 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: have a process. And I think that that's been the 156 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 2: biggest difference is I have so much, so much option 157 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 2: for process now, and I can go through these things 158 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 2: and take them slowly and think about them and like 159 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 2: have a second where I'm like, you know, I have 160 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: the tools now. I have a tool belt of things 161 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: I can apply, Like do I go this way? Do 162 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 2: I take a walk? Do I like this is not 163 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 2: the reaction that I want to This is not the 164 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 2: version of myself that I want to show up in 165 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 2: this situation. So things like that, I think I would. 166 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 3: Say it's difficult being vulnerable, right for on artists? How 167 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 3: difficult is that because you're showing a side of yourself 168 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 3: that I'm sure you think that maybe people are laugh 169 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 3: But then on the other side, I'm sure as the 170 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 3: side of says, there's so many people dealing with it, 171 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 3: and I love the fact artists are doing more. We 172 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 3: seen it with Gucci the same thing. So when did 173 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 3: you realize I could be that vulnerable? And was it 174 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 3: a hard line to draw to be? 175 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 1: Like? 176 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 3: Do I want to be this vulnerable? Do I want 177 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 3: to share this experience? 178 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 2: I think I've always been messally vulnerable, but I grew 179 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 2: up in front of the world. You know, everybody's been 180 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: seeing me doing interviews like this since I was nineteen 181 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 2: years old, and I think when you're viewing it on 182 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 2: the outside, it you kind of timestamp people like artists 183 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: get timestamped and whatever version of themselves stuck out to 184 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 2: the fan. So there's people who still view me as 185 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: something I went through when I was twenty four and like, 186 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 2: that's who they'll see me as forever. And when you're 187 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 2: twenty four at that time, you're also confidently speaking in 188 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 2: these interviews because you're like, this is who I am 189 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: right now, and I get it. Then ten years later. 190 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 3: You're like, oh my god, I don't know who that person. 191 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: I mean hasn't been ten years for me. But I'm 192 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 2: thirty now and I'm looking back at things I said 193 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: when I was twenty four to twenty five, even twenty seven, 194 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: and I'm like, yikes, even a year ago, I'm like, okay, 195 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 2: like growth, I'm different now. 196 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 5: It's good though, you have the self awareness that that 197 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 5: was supposed to go. 198 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know this. This haves to feel good to 199 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: you too. 200 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 5: The success are folded because vocally, you were one of 201 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 5: the first artists I saw publicly showing support for Palestine, 202 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 5: and I mean you spoke out when a lot of 203 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 5: people weren't. I know, you lost shows because of it, 204 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 5: you were barred from things. How does it feel having 205 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 5: a success and you have it for being on the 206 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 5: right side of history? 207 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think it shows that the things that we're 208 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 2: afraid of are more I don't know what the word 209 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 2: is, is not handleable. That's not a word, but like you 210 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: know what you mean? Yeah, like we can if we 211 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 2: have the courage to do things. And then so we 212 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 2: see people have success after doing the things that we 213 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 2: deem scary, we might be more courageous to do them. 214 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: And I think it's important that other artists see that 215 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 2: I've been able to thrive after all those things happened. 216 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 2: I mean there's still things that I will never be 217 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 2: allowed to do, or things that that are not getting 218 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,599 Speaker 2: picked up or even know, oh yeah, for sure, it 219 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 2: probably forever. I don't think people realize how deep it goes. 220 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 2: I didn't even at the time realize how deep it goes. Also, 221 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 2: to be really frank, I was incredibly maniced. So a 222 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 2: lot of the routes that I went, the yelling and 223 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 2: the f all you guys if you guys don't understand, 224 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 2: and da da dad, and you know what, have my 225 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 2: team could go if y'all don't speak, just these different 226 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 2: routes versus like, hey, let me calm down and be 227 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 2: strategic about this, because in every single movement, in every 228 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 2: single political yeah movement across the board, there's more strategy 229 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 2: involved in the way that you communicated the way that 230 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: you choose to organize the things that you engage with, 231 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 2: and at the time I didn't really have those resources 232 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 2: to think in that way. So yeah, there's still there's 233 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 2: still things that I'm experiencing that I probably will experience 234 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 2: for a really long time. But I think this other 235 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 2: side of it is speaking to the fact that when 236 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 2: there's great music, there's great music, and when people love 237 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: the music and they love the art, then you can't 238 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: really be taken out in that way. 239 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 5: I'm a stern believe it that you should always move 240 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 5: off strategy over emotion, but you can understand the emotion, Yes, it's. 241 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: So understand Well, I'm so much grace for how I 242 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 2: handled it because I was really just passionate and upset. 243 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 2: I was angry. We should have all been angry, it was. 244 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 2: It was really terrible to watch and treacherous to feel 245 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 2: some kind of like a part of because like our 246 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 2: country is such a big part of it. But I 247 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 2: definitely wish that I was able to call myself to 248 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 2: be smarter about the way that I went about it 249 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 2: for my own sake and for being a leader in 250 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 2: front of a camera for other people. 251 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 3: And how do you feel when other artists don't speak 252 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 3: about it when they have the opportunity. Do you look, 253 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 3: how does that feel to you? Because you jumped out 254 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 3: the window and yeah, you got banned from things? 255 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 2: And I think it's really easy to say, like I 256 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 2: want to be very clear with my words, like it 257 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 2: is really easy to say that I hate them for 258 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 2: it or I really blame them. But after experiencing everything 259 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: I went through, which went way deeper than just being 260 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 2: banned from things that you know, got into my safety, 261 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 2: my family, dynamics, my friendships, I had to move. It 262 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 2: put me into really paranoia every time I left the 263 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 2: house of was everybody out to get me? And did 264 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 2: I need security to sit in front of my house? 265 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 2: And was anybody plotting on me? And the death threats 266 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 2: I got it my show was like highly organized, typed out, 267 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 2: detailed death threats. It's easy to say like that shouldn't 268 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: matter because we should all be, you know, up in arms, 269 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 2: and part of me is like, yeah, we should. But 270 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 2: also I wish there was it wasn't so sinister, like 271 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 2: the lashings behind the scene. I wish it wasn't so sinister, 272 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 2: and I wish it wasn't something to be afraid of. 273 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: I think if we all spoken numbers and there was 274 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 2: so many of us, it wouldn't be so easy to 275 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 2: just come after one person. I think when you leave 276 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: it to be one or two people, it's easy to 277 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: just get them out of here. We've seen it historically. 278 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 2: But if it's a lot of people, who can they 279 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 2: get there's a bunch of us. 280 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 5: Did it make you speak out even more because you 281 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 5: did it the Red Carpet on the AMAS, you voiced 282 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 5: support for Valisteine, So when you were getting backlashs behind 283 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 5: the scenes, you're like, now I'm an go out there 284 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 5: even more. 285 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 2: I just like I was like I'm already here, Like 286 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 2: I'm already experiencing everything I'm experiencing, and it hasn't stopped, 287 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 2: like it hasn't stopped, Like it's still you know, cease 288 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 2: fire and all still hasn't stopped. And if even if 289 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 2: you know, the genocide itself does stop, there's a much 290 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 2: larger thing at hand there, which is, you know, ending 291 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 2: the apartheid. So I don't know, I don't think it 292 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: was ever like an intentional I'm gonna choose to speak. 293 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 2: I was asked a question on the carpet, and I 294 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 2: answered it and my stance remains the same. 295 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 5: So it is just interesting that you would still be 296 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 5: getting back like because even the UN Chief said there 297 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 5: are strong reasons to believe that war crimes have been committed. 298 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, but we're dealing We're dealing with a very delusional 299 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 2: other side. It's a very delusional side where you have 300 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 2: shown videos and you've shown facts and they've seen things, 301 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 2: and the response is literally, that's not even real, Like 302 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 2: y'all made this up, you know, like you kind of 303 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 2: at some point have to be like, Okay, there's a 304 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 2: game here, and I'm not going to play this game 305 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 2: with you guys, because you know what you're doing. I'm 306 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 2: not gonna I'm not gonna play it. 307 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 6: So and you also, I was mitched ice right the comment. 308 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 4: I saw the comments about you know, you speaking out 309 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 4: on the ice and them going into schools and things 310 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 4: and that I know you're a mom as well, but like, 311 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 4: has there have you experienced any similar pushback from the 312 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 4: other side or wherever because of those comments? 313 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 2: No? Yeah, Yeah, Zionism is a much larger, deeper, darker, 314 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 2: sinister thing than good old regular American racism, even though 315 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 2: they're very intertwined and they walk hand in hand with 316 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 2: each other a little bit. But yeah, no, I haven't 317 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 2: experienced any pushback from that. I think we're all more 318 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 2: comfortable talking about that in general than you know, anything else. 319 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 3: So I was gonna ask, you know, we also seen 320 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 3: you speak out about AI in the industry, and the 321 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 3: crazy part about it is, uh, I agree with you, 322 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 3: but I think it's crazy for an artist. We had 323 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 3: Tank and they were they were talking about they think 324 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 3: it's a good thing, and now you know, artists and 325 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 3: the industry needs to adapt to it. I think it 326 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 3: kind of hurts the fact of the creativity. 327 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 2: I think there's so many layers to it. One we're 328 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 2: going to put out there that you know, it's not 329 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 2: good for the environment. It's affecting communities everywhere, but especially 330 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 2: disparage Black communities in Americas, messing with the waters, messing 331 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 2: with the air like it's going to make people sick 332 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 2: in the long run. We move on from that and 333 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 2: get into all these aspects of music that are being 334 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 2: and jobs. Let's forget music, right. I'm speaking to music 335 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 2: because I'm being asked about music, you know, but I'm not. 336 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 2: I think there's a much larger thing of like all 337 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 2: these little jobs that people are employed to do. That 338 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 2: is keeping their families going, that is literally feeding everyone 339 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 2: around them are just gone and we don't realize we're training, 340 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 2: you know, these systems to do those things. There's things 341 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 2: that I understand. I think I was told about how 342 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 2: it is working for surgeries, like these robots are helping 343 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 2: in surgery, you know, more precise surgeries. And then there's 344 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 2: you know, like the disabled community and being able to 345 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 2: get things done in that way. And I've experienced producers 346 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 2: and writers be stuck on something and use it to 347 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 2: help or like finish something and then get it replayed 348 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: or get it remade. And like those aren't exactly things 349 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 2: that I'm super mad about. Like I'm not going to 350 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 2: bark at them the same way, but overall as a whole, but. 351 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 3: A fake person, a fake art, as a fake singer. 352 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 2: It's just unfortunate because I think music is such a 353 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 2: God given thing. It's it's it's the highest gift, you know, 354 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 2: God gave to Earth. It's used in every single religion 355 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 2: across the board to connect with God. It's it's it's 356 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 2: a very powerful thing. And for it to be generated 357 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 2: in that way and also be what it's what it's 358 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 2: using to be generated is a combination of real people's 359 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 2: stories and real people's voices and real people's feelings and 360 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 2: emotion and for all that to happen even deeper than oh, 361 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 2: it's going to take our because there's this sensationalized sentence 362 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 2: of mind that's like, why do I have to compete 363 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 2: with a computer. But it's not about competing. It's more like, 364 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 2: this is a disruption of something that God gave us, 365 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And that feels wrong to me. 366 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 2: Like it's music is such a it comes from here, 367 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: it's given here, and to have that generated through a 368 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 2: computer just feels like it just feels wrong. 369 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 5: I like this argument, Kline. I like this because I 370 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 5: feel the same way. It is a download from God 371 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 5: downloaded from a computer. But you will not have you know, 372 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 5: they have Jesus AI. You can log on and have 373 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 5: meaningful conversations with Jesus. 374 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 3: And Jesus a message and then yeah, that back a 375 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 3: biblical verse. 376 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 2: I think it's going to go so far. I think 377 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 2: it's going to go so far. I don't think people 378 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 2: are thinking about the negative implications, like being able to 379 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 2: be framed for things, being able to have images created 380 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 2: of your children that are inappropriate. That lives on people's 381 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 2: computers and they can do whatever they want to it. 382 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 2: When you're when you wake up one day and somebody 383 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 2: has a sex tape of you that never happened. If 384 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 2: they can make. 385 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 6: That's happening now? 386 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 2: Oh it is that? What have you heard about the 387 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 2: people getting the phone calls that was three years ago? 388 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, they call you and you hear your kids with somebody. 389 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 2: I need a X amount of money because my kid 390 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 2: got kidding, Like, I don't think people are. It's just 391 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 2: cute and fun and games now and you want to 392 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 2: make videos of Malcolm X eating and seafood boil with 393 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 2: Martin Luther King and and Michael Jackson and Prince have 394 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 2: an argument about whose funeral was more lit, Like I've 395 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 2: seen them all. You know it's it's but there comes 396 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 2: a point when you have to realize that where there's 397 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 2: always light and fun, there's always going to be the 398 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 2: extreme of that existing somewhere that we can't access it. 399 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 2: And I also think something is real sinister about the 400 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 2: White House using so much AI. 401 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: Oh, this election is gonna be crazy, Yeah, it's gonna 402 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 1: be nice. 403 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: How are they going to be able to say anything 404 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 2: was real or false. 405 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 4: What do you say to the people, Because I know 406 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 4: one of the conversations that you were having with specifically 407 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 4: about the three million dollar deal and reported three million 408 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 4: dollars that Zenaya the ai the thing I don't. 409 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 2: Even know how to the compute it. 410 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, the artist that I am on a guy. 411 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 2: Right. 412 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 4: There are people that'll say all of that is true, 413 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 4: but there's good and bad with everything. But on the 414 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 4: other hand, you have this black woman who is using 415 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 4: her poetry to write lyrics and now it's three million 416 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 4: dollars wealthier and able to do for her family and 417 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 4: stuff like that. 418 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 2: I mean, I said, even in the times I've spoken 419 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 2: about her, I'm not mad at her ability to have 420 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 2: done that for herself. I think it's dishonest the way 421 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 2: we're speaking about it, because I think it's a very 422 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 2: interesting thing to be responding to particular comments and saying 423 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 2: certain things but not telling the truth. Tell the truth. 424 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 2: You wrote a couple lines, you said a couple words, 425 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 2: then you framed I might want it to sound like this, 426 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 2: and go like this, and take from this and make 427 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 2: it sound like this, and make it appeal in this 428 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 2: way and make me look like this and dah da da, 429 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 2: and it did all of that. You're doing fifteen percent 430 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 2: of the job. Let's just be honest about what the 431 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 2: fifteen percent of the job is. If you write poetry, 432 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 2: I would love to write with a poet. I've written 433 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 2: with poets before they come in. We write together. I 434 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 2: turn their words into a song. I use my songwriter 435 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 2: brain to apply to their poetry brain, and we make 436 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 2: a really beautiful product product. But I'm watching her answer 437 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 2: these questions and I'm watching the lies accumulate and like 438 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 2: take together in her head to try to figure out 439 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 2: what to say. And I'm like, we could just tell 440 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 2: the truth and say what the tool is being used for, 441 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 2: and then maybe it can have its separate charts, or 442 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 2: it cannot because you're right, there is no stopping yet. 443 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 2: I could get, you know, ship for being said it 444 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 2: should have its own charts, But at this point it's 445 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 2: something has to be done. 446 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 3: AI with AI artists. 447 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I had created something called guaranteed Human. 448 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 5: I saw that, so at least, you know, if I guess, 449 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 5: if you we're going to be human like the personalities 450 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 5: and music. But if one day they do decide to 451 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 5: play AI music. It'll still you know. 452 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: This is AI music. 453 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, it's less about I want everybody to 454 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 2: feed their families and be successful at the end of 455 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:55,959 Speaker 2: the day. That like, that's my wish. If I had 456 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 2: one wish in the world, it would be for everybody 457 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 2: to have their needs made. So I'm never mad at that. 458 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 5: I just you said, because I was going to ask you, 459 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 5: what does authentic music have that AI generated music could 460 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 5: not have? 461 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: God? 462 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. I don't. I don't. I don't play 463 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 2: with things like that. You know, it's it's it's it's 464 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 2: such a deep thing, and I feel like not us 465 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 2: being able to I watched the A artists even talk 466 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 2: about God. Is it is insane? The AI gospel that 467 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 2: is insane. I'm looking in Zenaiamone's Yeah, I'm looking at 468 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 2: Zanaimon's comments and they're saying, since you're anointed, that's kind 469 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 2: of crazy. 470 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 6: I mean, I'm go go look at the comments right now. 471 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 4: But I will say when I first heard the song, 472 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 4: when everybody was up in arms, I had to listen 473 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 4: to the music, and I went and listened and. 474 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 6: I was like, oh, this is actually like it's good music. 475 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 2: Because you know what, it's doing though, it's analyzing the 476 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 2: community that she's trying to appeal to, which means it's 477 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 2: studying black women, saying what do black women want to hear? 478 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 2: What perspectives, what type of voices, what kind of stories, 479 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 2: what kind of emotions, and then accumulate all of that 480 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 2: and going, I'm going to give you a package deal 481 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 2: of exactly what you want, even down to what I 482 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 2: look like. 483 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: It's an artificial annointing. 484 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 2: Artificial I don't know if that goes on it. I 485 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 2: don't know if that goes on the same sentence. 486 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 3: But you know, hey, are you a guesst The chat 487 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 3: GPT stuff as well. 488 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 2: I'm against people putting it in place of very human things. Look, 489 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 2: we are entering it. 490 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 3: Makes life easier for a lot of people. 491 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 2: It does, and that's the and that's the argument. 492 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 3: It does because kids go to school. You can type 493 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 3: it in a pay I have to do a report 494 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 3: on this type and chat GPT. 495 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 2: The argument of like people who can't afford English classes 496 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 2: that moved here and need English classes is teaching them English? 497 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 2: Like there are there's always gonna be this thing. That's like, 498 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 2: there are things that it is good for, and there 499 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 2: are things that it is bad for outside of you know, 500 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 2: what's it doing, what it's doing to the environment, but 501 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 2: we become gluttonous with it, and it's there is not regulated, guys. 502 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 2: That's really the problem is that it's not regulated. Did 503 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 2: you not see the moments where people were telling them 504 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 2: or chagbt to cancel itself and then it hops servers 505 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 2: to avoid getting deleted, like I robot, Yes, it hot. 506 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 2: I promise you can look this up right now. It 507 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 2: jumped servers because it didn't want to get If it 508 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 2: can observe all of our emotions, why couldn't it be 509 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 2: able to think of something as sinister as we could 510 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 2: think of and not want to get canceled or not 511 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 2: want to get deleted, or not want to be gone 512 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 2: or want to it's studying us twenty four seven. 513 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's something. 514 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,959 Speaker 5: I mean, I totally agree with you with the God thing, 515 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 5: because there's something to be in a spiritual being living 516 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,479 Speaker 5: in human existence, right Like we're supposed to make mistakes. 517 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 1: We're supposed to try to figure things out like us. 518 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 5: Like yeah, through prayer and meditation and just and therapy. 519 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 2: Community. Being a community member is really important. Talking to people, 520 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 2: having other people talk to you back, sharing experience, messing 521 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 2: up together, being held accountable, being called in, growing, getting 522 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,479 Speaker 2: applause from other humans, getting love from other humans. If 523 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 2: we're all just going to be alone, getting all those 524 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 2: things from a robot, like, we're gonna stunt ourselves as 525 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 2: a world species. 526 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: I agree? 527 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 2: Then what happens to love and what happens to art 528 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 2: and what happens to music? I just had. I've been 529 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 2: having this conversation for weeks, So, like you know that, 530 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 2: paired with how the internet's obsessed with destroying each other 531 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 2: and calling and completely ruining people's lives and doing all 532 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 2: these kind of things, we're entering a very individualistic, let's 533 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 2: kill community for people kind of world, Like we're isolating 534 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 2: everyone from every side, technology and each other is becoming 535 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 2: this huge isolation isolation party, and it's really sad. 536 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 3: How does that make you as a mom now? Because 537 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 3: you have a daughter, So how are you raising your 538 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 3: child in this type of world that you just named? 539 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Because these other kids when 540 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 3: they go to these colleges and schools, they're gonna be 541 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 3: using chat, GPT. You know, these other kids are gonna 542 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 3: be using things that necessarily you don't agree with you know, 543 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 3: So how do you raise that daughter in this crazy 544 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 3: world with information? 545 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 2: I think I give her all the information possible. I don't. 546 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 2: I don't lie to my kid. I don't you know. 547 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 2: Obviously you don't just outright tell her terrible things, but 548 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 2: like you give her all the information so she knows 549 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 2: what's out there, and I tell her why I don't 550 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 2: agree with this, why I think this is bad, Why 551 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 2: you know I'm not gonna say no to this, but 552 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you another option and explain why that 553 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 2: option is probably the better option to do, and let 554 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,959 Speaker 2: her decide. Ultimately, I can't protect her from what she 555 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 2: learns at school and what her friends share and things 556 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 2: like that. But at home, we're very like human focused, 557 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 2: and I'm very communal. Like she's a big extended family. 558 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 2: She's a million aunties and uncles and cousins, and she 559 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 2: lives a very I have community and people around me 560 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 2: kind of life. She's not sitting in the corner on 561 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 2: her iPad alone all day. That's just not her life. 562 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 3: Does she see the How does she feel about the 563 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 3: evolved version of Kaylani? 564 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 2: Right? 565 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 3: Because you said. 566 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 2: You've she's six, I don't know. 567 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 3: Between three and six and four and six like bad mommy's. 568 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I've been her mom the whole time. I've 569 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 2: just been my daughter's mom the whole time. How everyone 570 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 2: else gets to see me is never going to be 571 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 2: how she sees me, because I'm just her mommy. I 572 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 2: always have been, I always will be. I don't fall 573 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 2: apart in front of her, don't put it. I don't 574 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 2: put her in any adult situation, and she doesn't have 575 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 2: a clue if anything is going on with me. I've 576 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 2: just been her happy mom this whole time. And I 577 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 2: take pride in that. 578 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 6: I saw the interview that you guys did you and 579 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 6: your daughter? 580 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, and she, first of all, she's adorable, but I 581 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 4: know that there's always like a protection with like artists 582 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,719 Speaker 4: and stars to put their kids out there. And it 583 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 4: was a cute you know, non environment, non in the 584 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 4: adult environment, But like what made you get to a 585 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 4: point where you're like, Okay, I'll let her start doing 586 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 4: things like this because she's watching Mommy perform. 587 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 2: She wants to stuff like that. Okay, she wants to, she 588 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 2: loves it. But then she gets there and she turned 589 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 2: the camera on and then she's silent because she's scared them. 590 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 2: In the camera's office, She's like, that was great. But 591 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 2: I think I will say this as actually a blanket 592 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,959 Speaker 2: statement for personal relationships in general, whether it's your family, 593 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 2: your friends, your loved ones, your girlfriend, your boyfriend, whatever, 594 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 2: and being a celebrity is we very unfortunately entered a 595 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 2: very high surveillance society. Like it's become so hot, Like 596 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 2: and I'm so passionate about this because we're also a 597 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 2: generation that is very anti police. Right, I'm super anti police, 598 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 2: but I'm watching us all kind of become police. Like 599 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 2: we're filming the couple behind us have an argument, and 600 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 2: next thing you know, their very private argument has become 601 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 2: a TikTok story time or you know, I'm autumn, I'm 602 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 2: taking somebody's taking screenshots of the first time. They're even 603 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 2: getting my number and they're posting it on their story like, y'all, 604 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 2: I got Kline's number. Like it's all of these I 605 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 2: walk into a restaurant with my partner or my daughter, 606 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 2: and if I'm choosing to hide one of them, I 607 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 2: gotta worry about this at the time. Now, camera, it's 608 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 2: it's insane. So you kind of come to this point, 609 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 2: right as a person in front of a microscope. Do 610 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 2: I want to be anxious all the time? Twenty four 611 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 2: to seven and experience I experienced fame paranoia, where like 612 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 2: if I'm hiding something or if I'm keeping something to myself, 613 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 2: it gets angled as I'm hiding something or lying to 614 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 2: the public. And so I'm doing regular things at the 615 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 2: grocery store, even a date with my partner, things like that, 616 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 2: and have to be shell shocked because I'm worried that 617 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 2: people are going to be surveilling me to have some 618 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 2: kind of gotcha moment or some kind of I know 619 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 2: more about them than you do, or look what I 620 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 2: discovered so I can get a moment off of this, 621 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 2: And whole time it's just my real life. So I 622 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 2: think you can protect as much as you want to protect, 623 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 2: and still that's not a guarantee that you're protected. 624 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 5: Made you more cautious about who gets access to the 625 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 5: real cayline. 626 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean from what I can control, you know, 627 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 2: from you know, who hangs out of my inner circle 628 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 2: or who comes to my house, you know, things like that. 629 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 2: But we're also again because of this highly you know, 630 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 2: surveilled kind of like audience state that we're in is 631 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 2: like you're also in a constant state of having to 632 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 2: prove yourself, Like am I a good person? Am I 633 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 2: a decent person? Do I make good decisions? Do I 634 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 2: mess up sometimes? Have I made a bad decision? Have 635 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 2: I been contradicting? Have I been a hypocrite? And those 636 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 2: are all very human things. But I think we've been 637 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 2: taught now all of a sudden that we have to 638 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,479 Speaker 2: constantly show ourselves deeply in order for people to not 639 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 2: create other narratives. Like now, controlling your narrative looks like 640 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,239 Speaker 2: almost bearing your soul just so people can believe that 641 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 2: you're a decent person. So you really don't get room. 642 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 2: The more mysterious you are, the more people I've seen 643 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 2: the craziest things about myself. 644 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 3: That's the craziest thing You've Oh. 645 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 2: I I've seen came into people's job and like smacked him, 646 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 2: Like I like I see that? Can you see it? 647 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:36,479 Speaker 1: No? 648 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never walked into nobody job. I've just seen 649 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 2: things I've seen. I've tried to date so and so's 650 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 2: ex girlfriends, little sisters, brother, cousin and did whatever with 651 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 2: them at some random place and a place I've never been, 652 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 2: like just and people will believe it because it's typed 653 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,479 Speaker 2: on and app or said by someone on TikTok. And 654 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 2: if I respond, then I'm too reactive. I need to 655 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 2: be Beyonce and say, fd Internet, Why am I explaining myself? 656 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 2: How dare I explain myself? But the things you see, 657 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 2: it's not normal, It's not normal. But here we are. 658 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 2: You know, this is what we've this is what we've become. 659 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: So you just you said you anti police? 660 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, am anti police misconduct, AM anti police brutality. I'm 661 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 5: anti police killing, you know, unarmed black and brown people. 662 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 5: But I'm not anti police. Somebody breaking into my house, 663 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:30,719 Speaker 5: I'm calling that one one. 664 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 2: But who's to guarantee that the police aren't going to 665 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 2: come and kill you? 666 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: That is true? But what others do we got? 667 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 2: Well, I think people who are anti police are in 668 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 2: favor of, at some point some other kind of system 669 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 2: coming along that isn't built on the values of the police, 670 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 2: that is built on communal values and actual safety values. 671 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 2: That's assuming that we can imagine up and conjure up 672 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 2: a better world to facilitate something like that. And and 673 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 2: also on a much larger scale, a lot of crime 674 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 2: is happening because people's needs aren't met. If someone robs 675 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 2: your house, it's probably because they were broken they needed it. 676 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 2: Imagine if those people had enough to survive and enough 677 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 2: to thrive, they probably wouldn't need to rob your house them. 678 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 2: You know what if that's even live your protect your family. 679 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 2: I do believe in people protecting themselves. I'm not anti 680 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 2: protect yourself. I'm anti there should not be an extension 681 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 2: of the government that is able to do things like 682 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 2: this with no consequence. They don't answer to anyone. They 683 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 2: are gang members. That is a gang. And it goes 684 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 2: even further with them being trained and tied into military 685 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 2: militaries of other places. I'm trying to talk bluntly as 686 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 2: possible as I can, but it's just a much larger again, 687 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 2: much more sinister thing where things are tied up into 688 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 2: these larger pyramids and police are very close to the top. 689 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 5: Who does the security at your shows? Because I can 690 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 5: see this right now, the refuse to do security show. 691 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 2: I would actually love that we actually tried. There was 692 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 2: an initiative that no name was I think, if I'm wrong, 693 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 2: was trying to start where a bunch of us were 694 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 2: trying to sign on to remove police presence from our show, 695 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 2: but only like four or five of us were down, 696 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 2: So then we thought, like, if there's only four five 697 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 2: of us, actually these venues are just gonna stop booking us. 698 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 2: It's easier to just say no to five of us 699 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 2: than it is to you know, adhere to this. For 700 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: just five of us, it's just just just don't even 701 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 2: book these five people. We get a million other shows 702 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 2: a month at the same venue, so I think that's 703 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 2: the preferred thing. I don't want police at my shows. 704 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 2: I don't know if there really are police said my shows. 705 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 2: I don't think so. Maybe if I do like a 706 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 2: summer jam or like a you know, a bigger thing 707 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 2: where there's way more artists. But when it's just me 708 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 2: that I have security, I got a tongue in standing outside. 709 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, you gonna catch hell down. 710 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 2: He's got me. 711 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 4: I wanted to go back to the microscope, being on 712 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 4: the microscope conversation that you were having. One of the things 713 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 4: that hit the microscope was the back and forth with 714 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 4: your daughter's dade. Where are you guys? Now know that 715 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 4: you guys are supposed to do like mediation and like 716 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 4: you kind of figure things out internally like. 717 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 2: Full custody, got you full custody? 718 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, and then is there contact with him? Okay? 719 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 6: Yeah answers. 720 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 4: I mean, because that was the situation that I think 721 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 4: for the one of the few times that we kind 722 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 4: of saw you're in a mom light, but you also 723 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 4: are then having to come and defend yourself so much 724 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 4: because the things that were claimed. 725 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I sat silent for most of it. 726 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 4: You were silent for a while until there was like, 727 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 4: like the claim and he did backtrack a lot of 728 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 4: the claim. 729 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 6: But yeah, all of that. 730 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, while that's happening, and you're sitting silent, right and 731 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 4: you still have your baby here. How difficult that you're 732 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 4: silent and you still have your baby. 733 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's very real. You're in a you're 734 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 2: in a court related situation. So at the end of 735 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 2: the day, you're you're listening to your lawyer, you're listening 736 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 2: to ultimately, I was trying to protect my child. No 737 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 2: mother wants to wake up, And I can bear anything 738 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 2: attached to my name in my hurt. I might throw 739 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 2: a little bit of a fit about it, but I'm 740 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 2: an adult. I can bear that. When you see your 741 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 2: child's name attach to these things. Your child's photo next 742 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 2: to certain words and certain verbiage and certain things. That's 743 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 2: a bit of a heartbreaker. And so I had to really, honestly, 744 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 2: I probably learned the most about God through that situation 745 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 2: because I. 746 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 3: Was on my kids. 747 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 6: Beyond that. 748 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 2: God protect me, and God protect my child, Like really, 749 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 2: God shield my child. God make it so that when 750 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 2: she goes to school, there's no other parents that are 751 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 2: going to bring this up. There is no children that 752 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 2: are going to be told something scary and then have 753 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 2: to act weird towards her. God may this not follow 754 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 2: her when she's older. Because I can bear it and 755 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 2: I can deal with it because I've been through a lot. 756 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 2: This actually was only treacherous because it was so public. 757 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 2: I have through many things that were way worse than this, 758 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 2: And ultimately it was just it was just thinking about 759 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 2: your kid, thinking about your kid, thinking about your kid. 760 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 2: That is it. 761 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 5: And how come when people be on their healing journey 762 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 5: and you know, we start meditating and you know, going 763 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 5: to therapy and charging our crystals under the supermoo, why 764 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:18,280 Speaker 5: we got. 765 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 1: To be in a cult? They say, we're in a cult. 766 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 2: It's a it's a tough situation. Ultimately the claims were false, 767 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 2: it wasn't true. He backtracked a lot, a lot of 768 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 2: was discovered, a lot came out in certain documents of 769 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 2: whatever the court case X y Z, and a lot 770 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 2: of it just got refuted. And people who are very 771 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 2: obsessed with disliking me, and we're waiting for a gotcha 772 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 2: moment again, in a moment to prove she's so fucking weird. 773 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 2: We'll hold on to that forever. But that's not really 774 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 2: my ministry to change their mind. Yeah, you know, those 775 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 2: are very miserable. We have a lot of a lot 776 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 2: of misery on this earth like and as for you know, 777 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 2: hopefully they find some healing and they find something that 778 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 2: makes them happy, because ultimately doing that is not going 779 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 2: to make it they want any happier. But maybe in 780 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 2: the moment, do you. 781 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 4: Are probably not now like the conversation you had with 782 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 4: your daughter about all of this at some point, have 783 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 4: you You haven't had that yet or have you? 784 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 2: I mean I had to explain to her why I 785 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 2: was going to court, and why what visitation is and 786 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 2: what that means, and why we're not on communication and 787 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 2: all those kind of things, and she was very understanding, 788 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 2: and she was, She's moved through it and we've taken 789 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 2: the day by day. 790 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you switching gears it is. You said Brandy 791 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 5: was on your Mount Rushmore. 792 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: Yes, who else? 793 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 2: Stevie Wonder is the head of the Mount Rushmore is 794 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 2: his vocals are just I think artistreet okay, okay, okay. 795 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 4: And this for everybody or you said every artist or 796 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 4: every singer should have this Mount Rushmore. 797 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 2: I think every singer should have different kinds of Mount Rushmore's. 798 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 2: Like I said, she should be on the vocal Mount Rushmore, 799 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 2: but also artistry like in general, but she should be 800 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 2: on everyone's vocal Mount More undred per. 801 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: I want to know your vocal, my vocal, my Russian? 802 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 2: Okay, Brandy Beyonce. 803 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 3: Can't put them next to each other. 804 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 2: Have a beautiful tour, having a beautiful tour, please, I'm sorry. Yeah, 805 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 2: Beyonce w Houston obviously, Yeah, definitely. 806 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: What I wanted to make sure it was. 807 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's a lineage, right, there's no Brandy 808 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 2: without Yeah what did you think I didn't think that? 809 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: Sometimes? 810 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 4: No, no, no, I love trying to like teach you 811 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 4: without you trying to. 812 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 2: Get a gotcha moment, right, bringing it back. 813 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 4: It's like a O G pull up, but it can 814 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 4: feel like but I didn't assume if okay, as long. 815 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 3: As you can't talk. The other day we had Christopher 816 00:36:58,480 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 3: Williams up here and I. 817 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 4: Was like, the comedian, no, because we had a comedian 818 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 4: we had on the schedule and I didn't know the 819 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 4: names of this new comedian and singer. Then he asked me, 820 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 4: and I said, is that the one that's the comedian? 821 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 4: And then I said, you. 822 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 1: Know Christopher Wiams And she goes, oh, you ha, a comedian. 823 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 4: Exact the comedian And then he said she doesn't know. 824 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 4: I said, oh, so that's the R and B singer. 825 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 6: Did that not happen last one? 826 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 1: Brandy? 827 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, Mariah, Yeah, absolutely. We're talking about like 828 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 2: freaky level like channel talent of like okay, well, when 829 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,320 Speaker 2: will anybody be able to ever do that again? Type people? 830 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 2: You know? So I think that's that's the that's the point. 831 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 2: But you know what else? Who else singers? But you 832 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 2: know they all went to church. That's what it is, 833 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 2: really so and. 834 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: Then you got your Patty Bell and your. 835 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,959 Speaker 2: Exactly exactly We could go on forever. 836 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, but if you want to see Kaylani. She's gonna 837 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,399 Speaker 3: be performing at our jingle Ball in Miami and our 838 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,320 Speaker 3: jingle Ball in Atlanta. All right, so get your tickets. 839 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to do Yeah. 840 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 3: We're gonna get into this single right now. Let's get 841 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 3: into the single right now. We appreciate you for joining us. 842 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 2: Thank you. We always get real deep in here. 843 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,800 Speaker 3: One time Kaylanie didn't want to come up, and she's like, 844 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 3: I ain't with the Breakfast. 845 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,839 Speaker 2: I was scared, you guys, scared of his mother. 846 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 3: But we got through it. 847 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 2: We were having different conversations then yes, I look at us. 848 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 3: Growth Absolutely, let's get into the single right now. Here's 849 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,479 Speaker 3: out the window. It's Kaylanie is right, yes, you guys, 850 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 3: it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, every day, Breakfast Club