Speaker 1: Are you leave in I you wanna way back home?
Speaker 2: Either way, we want to be there.
Speaker 3: Doesn't matter how much baggage you claim and give us
Speaker 3: time and a terminol and gay a. We want to
Speaker 3: send you off in start.
Speaker 2: We wanna welcome you back home. Tell us all about it.
Speaker 1: We scared her? Was it fine?
Speaker 2: Malborn?
Speaker 4: Do you need to ride?
Speaker 1: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?
Speaker 4: Do you need to ride?
Speaker 5: Do you need to ride?
Speaker 4: Do your need to ride?
Speaker 6: Ride with Karen and Chris? Welcome to Do you need
Speaker 6: a ride? This is Chris Fairbanks.
Speaker 1: And this is Karen.
Speaker 4: We are podcasting.
Speaker 6: We are podcasting. We just is solo episode doesn't sound
Speaker 6: like I'm out of gas. No, no way, I'm filled
Speaker 6: to the brim with unletted and I can't stop talking.
Speaker 6: We're going to pick up a friend.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm so excited.
Speaker 6: Yes, I can't wait to report how many sirens and
Speaker 6: undesirables there are in their neighborhood. No, that's not what
Speaker 6: we do. It's actually becoming just like so many places
Speaker 6: in Los Angeles. You go one block and all of
Speaker 6: a sudden you're like looking at refurbished Victorian homes, whereas
Speaker 6: before it was not that it was like just a
Speaker 6: hammock on fire.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those guys were hanging out on their front porch
Speaker 2: Friday style cool.
Speaker 6: The exact same thing I was thinking, right, I think
Speaker 6: that one guy really looked like.
Speaker 1: Bye bye, there was.
Speaker 6: Look good, Sam's nice house? Beautiful?
Speaker 1: Hello, fancy pants?
Speaker 6: Hello pants? I just called pants?
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, get in on the other side. One of
Speaker 1: my oldest.
Speaker 6: Friends, one of Karen's oldest friends, stars, stage and screen,
Speaker 6: clubs and colleges, putting yours together for Sam Pancake. Hy.
Speaker 4: Hello, great news for you, bad news for me. I'm
Speaker 4: in one of my mood nuts. Yeah, nuts, it's right Fairbanks.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna touch you both on the shoulder. Hi. Everyone,
Speaker 4: Oh can I say that loud?
Speaker 6: Sure?
Speaker 1: Sure, A peek behind the hurting immediately.
Speaker 4: Hi guys, how are you well? Have you ever been
Speaker 4: in this neighborhood?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean here, and they're not that exact streame.
Speaker 6: What what do you think I was saying before we
Speaker 6: picked you up? Just take a gaes.
Speaker 4: Clubs in colleges is not me. I mean I went
Speaker 4: to college, and I certainly have been to some nights
Speaker 4: clubs in my day, but.
Speaker 6: I prefer saying it when it's not a touring stand
Speaker 6: up comedian. Oh okay, it's like, but occasionally it has
Speaker 6: confused people. I just keep saying it.
Speaker 1: Karen started, Everyone gets the same in.
Speaker 4: Well perfect, Yes, well I was, I am a fan.
Speaker 4: I listen, I did, Hi. Do you mean to tell
Speaker 4: you about Jenny Yang? I just listened to Yes, I did.
Speaker 4: I love Jenny Yang. Yeah, she's a delight. Where do
Speaker 4: I start? I just have at the beginning litany of complaints.
Speaker 4: Haven't slept much in two weeks.
Speaker 7: Guess why don't you know you witnessed another murder? Yes, yes,
Speaker 7: Christ years ago, the murder of my nation, the murder
Speaker 7: of my country. I am what else was going on?
Speaker 7: I'm just I feel like I I thought. My brain's
Speaker 7: on backwards. I'm raw, I'm open, I'm ripe, I'm sleep deprived.
Speaker 4: H O T T O G O A M A.
Speaker 4: Let's do it right. This is my This is my
Speaker 4: Starbucks that we like.
Speaker 1: On the left, it's okay.
Speaker 4: This is on the right is a chicken place where
Speaker 4: on last Wednesday, a few weeks ago. You know, I'm
Speaker 4: a celiac survivor. Stuff the right word. I don't know.
Speaker 4: Dependent Thriver.
Speaker 6: If you're surviving, you're suffering.
Speaker 4: And I went right in there to Church's chicken, which
Speaker 4: has been taunting me since I lived in this neighborhood,
Speaker 4: and had a two piece and a biscuit and said
Speaker 4: gluten be yes, you know what. I don't think it well.
Speaker 4: I don't think the three days I spent in bed,
Speaker 4: the three or four days I spent in bed the
Speaker 4: next few days. I think the chicken helped that. I
Speaker 4: don't think the chicken was the cause. I think it
Speaker 4: was other things. Yesterday, let me tell you, Yesterday it
Speaker 4: was dentist. Yesterday was therapist. Yesterday was my new writing class. Yo,
Speaker 4: I'm writing, I'm writing essays. I'm in a personal essay class.
Speaker 1: Good.
Speaker 4: And then then the house there there's again I live
Speaker 4: like when I lived at Busy's, which we can say
Speaker 4: now because none of us live there anymore, where the
Speaker 4: murder happened, don'ts I once again find myself in a
Speaker 4: guest house, a du as recalling them situation. So my
Speaker 4: friend Arthur who lives in the front, who's like him,
Speaker 4: and all these old punk rock people who now have
Speaker 4: different jobs. They he had a dinner party and it
Speaker 4: was very fun. But today was just not It was
Speaker 4: not a great day. Really, yeah, which the gym though.
Speaker 6: Just because your brain is on backwards.
Speaker 4: My brain's on backwards. I haven't felt right. I'm also
Speaker 4: I would say crossroads, but it's more like where are
Speaker 4: the roads? Like it's right, it's like a sprawling tundra
Speaker 4: of I've had about seven cups of coffee and an
Speaker 4: entire celsius, two pieces of Prince Street pizza, an orange,
Speaker 4: and an actin shake. This is me, welcome.
Speaker 1: Are you just eating anything that's in front of you?
Speaker 4: Shimmering with caffeine and anxiety?
Speaker 1: A shake is like did you have to go back
Speaker 1: in time to have that?
Speaker 4: No, let me tell you what this personal phone number?
Speaker 4: I somehow decided, And none of my decisions are great.
Speaker 4: We know that, sure to just get an auto delivery,
Speaker 4: which can easily be stopped, but somehow I fuddled by
Speaker 4: it until it gets there from a large corporation that
Speaker 4: mails us things which I'm not I refuse to say
Speaker 4: the name of. And this like I went through a
Speaker 4: period a few years ago. It was probably during the
Speaker 4: Cocoa pe cocoa pandy that I started to just have
Speaker 4: drink a sensible shake for lunch like back in the nineties,
Speaker 4: right right, So it's one hundred and forty calories and
Speaker 4: you get all your nutrients. So I just started getting those,
Speaker 4: and I now just if I I'm someone who forgets
Speaker 4: to eat, which a lot of people hate me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fuck you for real, exactly right.
Speaker 4: I fucked me. No, no, I say I fuck me. Oh,
Speaker 4: but uh, it's I just do because it's my anxiety.
Speaker 4: And so I didn't eat a lot last week except
Speaker 4: for chicken. Yeah, and.
Speaker 6: At least you're having a meal replacement beverage exactly. Yes.
Speaker 6: I forget to eat when I have a day of
Speaker 6: ADHD or whatever.
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 6: I'm self diagnosed. I have many things I'm not sure of,
Speaker 6: but I'll forget to eat all day. Yes, and an
Speaker 6: Atkins anything a slim fast, even if you want to
Speaker 6: go early eighties.
Speaker 4: Do we still have slim Fast in the world?
Speaker 2: I bet we do, okay, unless they unless there was
Speaker 2: like some sort of a lawsuit and change the name.
Speaker 6: But it could be it could be like I get
Speaker 6: a tall can of fen fan Is that bad?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 4: The thing is, uh, darkness follows R E. M. That
Speaker 4: I used to have quite a drug habit back in
Speaker 4: the day. So right, yes, we were. We had some
Speaker 4: parallel secrets together. Here what what you do?
Speaker 6: What you do?
Speaker 4: No? I did the what do we call it? What
Speaker 4: we call it crystal because it sounds light and fun,
Speaker 4: crystal mess. Oh wow, okay, what a big one. But
Speaker 4: I've spoken about this before. Yeah, yeah, it was, but
Speaker 4: it didn't feel big. It felt like speaking of ADHD,
Speaker 4: which I now have termed by my have been diagnosed
Speaker 4: by my therapist as subclinical ADHD, which means I don't
Speaker 4: need medication, But I says, who says.
Speaker 7: I, Well soon RFK Junior will say everybody nobody gets anything.
Speaker 4: Chug and raw milk. Yeah, but I I it's one
Speaker 4: of those things that with drugs can do like it
Speaker 4: works for a while really well. And it was like
Speaker 4: my adderall and I've done that too, and it's nearly
Speaker 4: the same thing. But the adderall in.
Speaker 2: A sexy it's literally the same thing, right, So people,
Speaker 2: I think the adderall people get very upset when you
Speaker 2: talk about it, But.
Speaker 4: Don't you think it pushes the same little buttons in
Speaker 4: your brain to a degree. That's my experience.
Speaker 1: It's literally the same drug.
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, yes, yeah.
Speaker 2: As well as the buttons my brain was getting pushed.
Speaker 1: Were the fen?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 4: Yes? What were the fens in the fen?
Speaker 2: Well, I don't remember the actual thing. It was like
Speaker 2: fental conan or something like. That was the first one
Speaker 2: that was the upper, and then there was another one
Speaker 2: fen furnamine or something.
Speaker 1: These are guesses, and that was a downer.
Speaker 2: But I started taking it early enough before they were
Speaker 2: giving you the downer, so it was only the upper.
Speaker 2: So I was always mad and I was always drunk,
Speaker 2: and I always had a bunch of shit to say
Speaker 2: to everybody. And then after I stopped taking it, that
Speaker 2: never really went away.
Speaker 1: Kind of how it.
Speaker 4: Is opened the flood gates.
Speaker 2: Well, it just like I guess, it just supported who
Speaker 2: I really wanted to be, got it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like being famous. It just brings out what
Speaker 4: you already are.
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: And it's kind of like I mean, I like to
Speaker 2: laugh and have a good time, but also I love
Speaker 2: telling people to shut the fuck up because they need.
Speaker 1: To be told that.
Speaker 4: I will say this because I've known Karen Denise Victoria
Speaker 4: Catherine Kilgarat for four thousand years. Even though she is
Speaker 4: thirty four and I'm eighty seven.
Speaker 6: I finally known the middle man.
Speaker 4: I'm just that's one of my That'll pancake secrets is
Speaker 4: you were We were always great together, but you were
Speaker 4: on stage you could be like, well, you're genius obviously,
Speaker 4: and you that's where I saw that used for hilarious,
Speaker 4: delight and good.
Speaker 1: I never abusive comedy, just.
Speaker 4: Like telling shit like it is and calling a motherfucker out.
Speaker 4: But I don't remember rasing that when I knew you. Socially,
Speaker 4: we though Iya too was on Messa.
Speaker 2: What I know we were probably meeting and having that
Speaker 2: kind of effervescence of like, oh yeah, horay Son's up
Speaker 2: here with me.
Speaker 1: That's how I felt when I talked to you.
Speaker 4: That's absolutely what it was. Karen Y. It's true. Well,
Speaker 4: I'm glad we're still.
Speaker 1: Peals me too. We're still up here, Sam.
Speaker 4: We are, we are. I am now. I can drink
Speaker 4: one Celsia's Energy drink, not a sponsor, and I only
Speaker 4: do it when I really need to. But I'm serious, y'all.
Speaker 4: I am not supposed to take anything, you know, drug
Speaker 4: deular like like hard drugs anymore, right, right, But I'm
Speaker 4: having a true crisis of sleep, and I have tried
Speaker 4: everything and my nervous system overrides allway.
Speaker 6: Are you having coffee and then celsius every day?
Speaker 4: No, sirry rarely. This is a day where I want
Speaker 4: to be special for you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I did the same thing.
Speaker 4: This is your fault.
Speaker 6: Every podcast day, I've got coffee throughout the day. That's
Speaker 6: a little sacred that I've kept from Karen Stewart Aster
Speaker 6: Elizabeth Garrett.
Speaker 1: The current has been ripped off. It's not just pulled back.
Speaker 4: Anymore, ripped out and burned. I rarely do celsius. My my.
Speaker 4: This is a place for secrets, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, this is a special episode of secret.
Speaker 4: I if I'm really having a time where I really
Speaker 4: need to go to sleep, I will take Nikwel pills
Speaker 4: and they really work, but I have to limit that
Speaker 4: to like once a month, and usually for a work day.
Speaker 4: It's not ideal. I'm groggy in the morning, but it's
Speaker 4: matter four hours of sleep. Yes, I'll take it. Normally,
Speaker 4: I do a little bit of like a slow release melatonin.
Speaker 4: I do a little CBD drops and now again I'll
Speaker 4: do a benadrill. But bend makes me like depressed. And
Speaker 4: I told my therapist that he was like that's not
Speaker 4: a side effective like I welcome you inside my brain? Doctor,
Speaker 4: can you tell me you know? Yeah, here's a jot.
Speaker 4: I wake up with a neil and sign and says
Speaker 4: you're the biggest failure ever known to man, blinking over
Speaker 4: my bed. Yeah, I stop out of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah you do? You always do?
Speaker 4: I do.
Speaker 2: I don't have you ever tried an EPSOM salt bath
Speaker 2: and or magnesium?
Speaker 4: See this is I've had this conversation a few times.
Speaker 4: The last time I take magnesium it didn't really work,
Speaker 4: and one time I did it, it just gave me
Speaker 4: the you know, the trots. Oh yeah, which.
Speaker 1: Can be great if you're feeling you know, bloated.
Speaker 4: I true, And when am I not? The honest? Please?
Speaker 4: I don't this is embarrassing.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't have a bathtub right now.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I've done it.
Speaker 4: I've done those before, the absence salt baths and in
Speaker 4: the big house where my friend lives and he's gone
Speaker 4: a lot. He he has a bathtub, so I might try
Speaker 4: that again. Yeah. Yeah, well I can I have the
Speaker 4: either run of the place. Have you met me? I'm
Speaker 4: a bossy old you're.
Speaker 1: A personality higher for sure. They want you in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Also, I take care of shit. I was like to
Speaker 4: this Carter, get a new one. He did it. The
Speaker 4: new one's great. Welcome to me. I used to live
Speaker 4: in a fucking estata.
Speaker 6: What to do?
Speaker 4: You're famous? Thank you waving a truck.
Speaker 6: That person sped up. They wanted a piece of your
Speaker 6: back bumper.
Speaker 1: Yeah that was weird. It's like they stopped to let
Speaker 1: me go and then they're like, no, fuck you.
Speaker 6: Well much less popular than the bath as the EPSOM
Speaker 6: salt shower, which I've done. I didn't have a plug
Speaker 6: for my tongue. I just I put the salts in
Speaker 6: it made of paste, and I literally rubbed it into
Speaker 6: my joints.
Speaker 4: Christ, this is true. Were one of your fantasies.
Speaker 6: This is a real I do a lot of experimenting
Speaker 6: in the shower. I used to wear clothes. That's enough
Speaker 6: of that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, lash tell me more, fellow.
Speaker 6: Just you know, if I if I need to pre
Speaker 6: wash some clothing, like I don't want to stain the
Speaker 6: set and I pull on my back skateboarding, I'll wear
Speaker 6: that shirt in the shower. To Karen's dismay, give it.
Speaker 4: A pre frankly to Sam's.
Speaker 1: Too, yeah, let's all be honest.
Speaker 6: I don't then can say I don't then dry it
Speaker 6: out and put it in my drawer. It's just a
Speaker 6: pre wash.
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, that's interesting. Yeah, and why take it off?
Speaker 6: I'm sweaty, there's dirt on my back. Take a shower
Speaker 6: with their shirt off, take it off during the shower,
Speaker 6: set wet shirt aside. I don't then keep the shirt on,
Speaker 6: dry my hair, go on with my day. It's a
Speaker 6: quick pre wash, Okay. I will say, rubbing eb some
Speaker 6: salt into your joints does help.
Speaker 4: That's a that's a good thing to know.
Speaker 6: You're mainlining it.
Speaker 2: And yeah, because you're kind of when you take it
Speaker 2: through your skin. Also you can get more of it.
Speaker 2: And then some salts is like all magnesium, right.
Speaker 4: I think, I guess, so I'm gonna try that. I'm
Speaker 4: taking all offers. I almost called a message to my
Speaker 4: doctor today, say, may I please just have some sort
Speaker 4: of a sleeping pill which is dangerous air storry for
Speaker 4: you know, snorts McGee back here. But yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: you know, calm down pill, pancake. But like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Here's the funny thing too.
Speaker 2: I was thinking about this the other day, how come
Speaker 2: I feel like is this child walking along?
Speaker 6: Let's ask that that was like a kid alone?
Speaker 1: Are you alone?
Speaker 2: When I go to like a brunch, if I make
Speaker 2: the terrible mistake of like I'm going to order waffles,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like I'm going to bust
Speaker 2: out and have a dessert breakfast, I am ready to
Speaker 2: fall asleep within thirty minutes, really shorter. And I wonder,
Speaker 2: although you have silly ex but it's like sometimes there's
Speaker 2: not like when you eat a lot of carbs, like
Speaker 2: a big bull of spaghetti help you go to sleep?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, I've also the habit which is not ideal,
Speaker 4: and a lot of it now is like as we know,
Speaker 4: the strikes, slow work time, Yes, rough times, rough times,
Speaker 4: rough times, and I and I you know, we're all
Speaker 4: going through it. So that's a part of it. That's why,
Speaker 4: you know, not always does does my nervous system shark
Speaker 4: its way through anything I put inside my body? But
Speaker 4: I have always been a big, big old cereal before bed,
Speaker 4: but like not like a frosted flake, not like a
Speaker 4: you know, really crazy cocoa.
Speaker 6: Pa a sheet.
Speaker 4: Well it's yeah, it's in that neighborhood. Well, it's it's
Speaker 4: I do a lot of I can do because of celiacs.
Speaker 4: I do a rice crispy Oh yeah, yeah you can.
Speaker 4: But see, almost all of those have malta. This is
Speaker 4: so boring, but welcome to my supplement podcast about ingredients
Speaker 4: have multodextrin, which is a form anything malt is wheat
Speaker 4: almost always, yeah, like malted milk or whatever, because it's
Speaker 4: for extra flavor. Now, my celiac isn't to the degree that,
Speaker 4: like I, I didn't have any symptoms, but they found
Speaker 4: it by surprise when they were checking my you know,
Speaker 4: my colonoscopy. Yeah, they did an Endosky beat check massive reflux,
Speaker 4: and they were like, hey, guess what. Guess what surprise surprise.
Speaker 4: Everything you enjoy drugs, alcohol, smoking, that's gone. And guess
Speaker 4: what else is going to? Biscuits, fried chicken and happiness.
Speaker 1: Good luck. Yeah, you can have those little weird seaweed.
Speaker 4: Past things exactly. You can have a big glove of
Speaker 4: epps and salts in the shower.
Speaker 6: I must also add that the coarse, giant grains of
Speaker 6: salt it's painful to rub in your skin because I
Speaker 6: was out of breath, and I think also sort of burping,
Speaker 6: and so I'm yelling like big speech bubbles.
Speaker 4: But Chris also, that's a great exfoliator. I would imagine
Speaker 4: rights baby soft.
Speaker 6: My knees and macs of legs have never been more supple, fantastic.
Speaker 4: I don't have and I'm lucky that i'm, you know again,
Speaker 4: nearly eighty seven and a half years old. But like,
Speaker 4: I don't have any joint stuff, and I do go
Speaker 4: to the gym. That's the thing I did today. What
Speaker 4: helps my sleep is like if I pump, I can't
Speaker 4: believe I'm saying this, and you I am pump iron right,
Speaker 4: really yeah, truly, like like the machines, much can you lift?
Speaker 4: I don't look at the things. I move the novel
Speaker 4: to the pineh and I don't the gym where I
Speaker 4: live now, the gym where I'm going down in this
Speaker 4: neighborhood which I love, which is new and big and
Speaker 4: everyone's hot, and I know I never run into anyone
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 6: Do they have classes?
Speaker 4: They don't have class.
Speaker 6: I joined a gym by my house that could otherwise
Speaker 6: be a car payment, but I'm just trying it out
Speaker 6: because they have massage people and classes. And I realized
Speaker 6: in a class setting. I'm competitive enough to where I
Speaker 6: actually get a workout where if I leave it up
Speaker 6: to me, and I'm doing things that I never think
Speaker 6: to do, like I don't touch it bell. I'm not
Speaker 6: gonna every class there involves my lower body in spotting
Speaker 6: in some way, and I have to be careful what
Speaker 6: I sign up for because I'm like, sure, I'll do
Speaker 6: whatever lift is. Everyone in there was Olympic style speed
Speaker 6: skater legs and it was like, uh, snatch and lift
Speaker 6: type class like that takes skill. The word Olympics is
Speaker 6: in it.
Speaker 4: Are you serious?
Speaker 6: Yeah? I realized I'm working out for the first time
Speaker 6: in my life and I leave those classes unable to
Speaker 6: walk for three days?
Speaker 4: Why do you not work your upper body? Is it
Speaker 4: perfect already?
Speaker 6: I They have a Sunday that they call like, here's
Speaker 6: our Vanity Arm Day, and I'm like, that's all I
Speaker 6: ever really did. I realized I was not doing things
Speaker 6: that actually make me my body perform better.
Speaker 4: Do you also do it as I do to help
Speaker 4: knock yourself out to sleep or do you not need that?
Speaker 6: Yes? It does as a byproduct, And thank you for
Speaker 6: I mean back on topic, because that's why I am
Speaker 6: so tired that I had to stop. I don't. I
Speaker 6: no longer abuse therapy flu.
Speaker 4: Which so that's my secret.
Speaker 6: Very good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean yeah, it was me with the niquil.
Speaker 4: But you I've learned the hard way even before I
Speaker 4: got Sebber, like, if you do it more than you
Speaker 4: know two or three two times in a row doesn't
Speaker 4: work anymore.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I really it's only for like I have
Speaker 6: to get sleep tonight.
Speaker 4: But I also had a an fantastic massage on Monday
Speaker 4: at my tie place, and she was it was one
Speaker 4: of the best, to thank God, because I needed it
Speaker 4: more than ever. She walked all over me and I
Speaker 4: was I was giggling and like making noises. She was
Speaker 4: giggling and she was so adorable. And when Baltis start laughing,
Speaker 4: She's like, are you a cane? It's fine, I just
Speaker 4: make noises right because I do. And she small but mighty,
Speaker 4: and it was so I slept Monday night. I'll give
Speaker 4: myself that much.
Speaker 1: That's nice. Well, I wonder if there's like stretches you
Speaker 1: can do. They're kind of on parr careing and.
Speaker 4: I always I'm just like, I just don't do them.
Speaker 4: There are ways that I don't have to get pills
Speaker 4: for a part of me. It's just like pills are
Speaker 4: the answer.
Speaker 1: Because I love pills.
Speaker 4: I love pills.
Speaker 1: It's fun.
Speaker 4: The stretches, Yeah, I mean I think once our natural
Speaker 4: layers it will be better. But or I get a
Speaker 4: ding dang job again. It's not like some funny can't
Speaker 4: be cuckuckoo Like I was Betty Davis and hushush with
Speaker 4: Cheryl It the other night at Backbar's.
Speaker 1: What's wrong with that?
Speaker 4: Oh? Nothing? It was a dream And I'm going to force
Speaker 4: you to look at a picture of me please.
Speaker 1: That is hilarious.
Speaker 6: I really at some point I want to say the
Speaker 6: picture too. But I want to talk about what episodes
Speaker 6: of Golden Girls because I that you are your favorites
Speaker 6: that I don't talk about because sure, since you were
Speaker 6: last non, I like feel like I discovered that show
Speaker 6: suddenly and how ahead of its time it was. And uh,
Speaker 6: there's a lot of favorite episode.
Speaker 4: There's your friends who make it profession exactly, Wow, how
Speaker 4: do you do it? It's that's my friend, my friend Johnny,
Speaker 4: who was also in it. Didn't he's a pro. He's
Speaker 4: a pro and he can do anything, and he's one
Speaker 4: of those paint this man face. Once I shaved into
Speaker 4: into a Betty Davis you know face, and I do
Speaker 4: have big round eyes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have that year good cast there. That was
Speaker 1: a good choice.
Speaker 4: It was fun. We it's this little group we do
Speaker 4: called Queer Radio Hour that my friend Nathan Frizelle does
Speaker 4: and we've done so far Mommy Dearest with me as
Speaker 4: Joan whatever. I had a baby Jane with me as
Speaker 4: Joan and Bruce Valanche is Betty Davis, which was ladies
Speaker 4: and gentlemen, the real standing, the real Oh yeah. It
Speaker 4: was a benefit we did for the Dane Lesbie Center
Speaker 4: and so yeah, that's what I did. So that makes
Speaker 4: me happy. And again we'll make a little bit of money.
Speaker 6: That's exactly in.
Speaker 4: Terms of Golden Girls. I you know, I keep hoping
Speaker 4: I'll ever have to do it again, not that I.
Speaker 6: Don't love it, but why yeah, is it just yeah,
Speaker 6: I'm so precious.
Speaker 4: Doing it like ten years now and I'm kind of like, okay,
Speaker 4: and it's I'm so happy. It's such a gift. I
Speaker 4: love working with Drew Drogie as you'll know. And yes
Speaker 4: sometimes Rose is Killy Manto and then Sherry Vine and
Speaker 4: Jackie Beat.
Speaker 1: Jackie Beat.
Speaker 4: My face just hasn't been the same since Casita shut down,
Speaker 4: because you know, you know the theater which they're they're
Speaker 4: bringing back, are they really Yeah?
Speaker 2: And I know what you mean or I understand, you know,
Speaker 2: doing it for that long, but I swear to god,
Speaker 2: I went one time by myself.
Speaker 1: I think it was just after COVID would that be right?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was. I bought my ticket last second.
Speaker 2: It was like, oh I have I'm not working whatever,
Speaker 2: and the beautiful manager, lovely man, mister Dan Ester Dan
Speaker 2: unfolded a folding chair and put me in the aisle
Speaker 2: like someone's lost aunt. It was fucking It was humiliating
Speaker 2: and hilarious at the same time. But then the like
Speaker 2: lights went down, those commercials started running. It was the
Speaker 2: most delightful thing. And then everyone's sang the theme song
Speaker 2: and it was like truly, truly like.
Speaker 1: Self for the soul.
Speaker 4: Oh, that's right, it's Karen. That was that July twenty
Speaker 4: twenty one, the first one we did back, and Roz
Speaker 4: was in that one too, ros Ernandez, that's right, playing
Speaker 4: Big Daddy's new young wife. And it had the and
Speaker 4: we did three weekends. We had a space amountain more
Speaker 4: because of COVID, but it was we cried a lot
Speaker 4: during that because it was the big Oh my god,
Speaker 4: we're back, we're doing life theater all together, we're singing.
Speaker 4: It was pretty magical.
Speaker 1: Yes, there was big feelings.
Speaker 6: You did commercial breaks too, excuse.
Speaker 4: Me, Oh yeah, we do the period commercials, just the
Speaker 4: commercial breaks of the show.
Speaker 1: They run them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we run them all.
Speaker 6: Oh okay, I was hoping you got to act out
Speaker 6: those too.
Speaker 4: I did a show once where we did do those.
Speaker 4: I remember playing mister Whipple and some cooky show with
Speaker 4: the Grownlings and other seventies stuff, and my husband some
Speaker 4: hot shot. Here's his ancient tiny secret cow gone, which
Speaker 4: is not ideal.
Speaker 2: I mean nothing was nothing was ancient Chinese secret. But
Speaker 2: at least Asian people were in that commerce.
Speaker 4: That's true. That's true. The woman and her husband were
Speaker 4: both Asian. Yes, the good.
Speaker 2: News, but they were I'm sure if they had their way,
Speaker 2: they'd be like, can someone rewrite this? So it's just
Speaker 2: regular people talking about a detergent exactly.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's got to be something a lot of people share.
Speaker 6: How many commercial jingles and commercials I have memorized from
Speaker 6: my childhood where I will never get them out of
Speaker 6: my head. You know.
Speaker 4: Well that's in the Golden the Golden Girls show. We
Speaker 4: do these commercials like you know, where's the beef for whatever?
Speaker 4: Eighties stuff? Sure, other jingles that are not coming to
Speaker 4: my brain right now, but that's another part of the
Speaker 4: like the charm of the show.
Speaker 1: Yes, people really get to go back, they do.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, and even like my nieces and nephews are
Speaker 4: teenagers come and they everything just so exotic and wild
Speaker 4: and weird to them. So because the kids can come,
Speaker 4: because even though we do some filthy sides.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just the scripts, yes, it was on TV.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the show. Yeah, so many tongue in cheek, sexual
Speaker 6: innuendo jokes. There are so many good jokes. It's one
Speaker 6: of the best written shows. But then the sweet like
Speaker 6: did you ever do the episode live where they go
Speaker 6: to the homeless shelter because of this jacket ticket?
Speaker 4: Yet I haven't done that one. Yeah, that's a good idea.
Speaker 6: It's really a sweet one. And I got terry eyed
Speaker 6: just because it was you know, ving, it was Yeah,
Speaker 6: and it was also predicting what a problem.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's right. Well they covered Rose one episode
Speaker 4: thought she had HIV, right, and then she was addicted.
Speaker 4: She got suddenly addicted to you know, speak of the
Speaker 4: double like speed pills or something right speed. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: think so she was on something. She was addicted. Funny,
Speaker 4: I might be conflating that with Elizabeth Berkeley, Jesse just
Speaker 4: Pano and say by the bell. Right.
Speaker 6: It's hard a lot of the Yeah, they have parallel.
Speaker 1: Themes and they all look alike.
Speaker 6: Yeah, everything, and there's always some hustle where every other
Speaker 6: episode of Golden Girls, they're trying to raise money because
Speaker 6: they're all broke and there's an auction, or they're trying
Speaker 6: to figure out how to sell a painting they've acquired.
Speaker 6: That's my favorite. I don't remember them all being hustlers
Speaker 6: and willing to break the law together.
Speaker 4: To pay for the leaky roof, yeah, or the toilets
Speaker 4: that's broken.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's the best. There's just what we're.
Speaker 2: Don't They live in a condo or like a it's
Speaker 2: a house. Oh, it's there.
Speaker 4: The actual house is in Westwood. I mean you can
Speaker 4: go see it of the exterior. Nice and then they
Speaker 4: live together in a house. But we're doing it again.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure when this comes out but the third weekend,
Speaker 4: I think in February at Largo or Beloved Largo or
Speaker 4: Planning in the Gang, which we've been doing it lately. Great,
Speaker 4: and Bob the Drag Queen is the special guest star.
Speaker 1: Perfect. Oh my god, it's.
Speaker 4: Gonna be really fun.
Speaker 1: That's an incredible plug.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's I'm not sure what episodes
Speaker 4: were doing it because Jackie. I let Jackie and Sherry
Speaker 4: make those calls because so often sometimes I can't do
Speaker 4: it because of television work. But I don't think that'll
Speaker 4: be too much of a danger next year. But we'll see,
Speaker 4: we'll see.
Speaker 6: I met Bob the Drag Queen zach Ny Towers, Yes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: the West Side, and we had the best time.
Speaker 1: He's so funny.
Speaker 4: Yes, he had a stand up and Ro's opened for
Speaker 4: him and Zach I think did they take turned sera goldten?
Speaker 4: They take to him?
Speaker 6: Wow?
Speaker 4: And Zach opens for it.
Speaker 6: He's a well known.
Speaker 4: I think Zach opened.
Speaker 2: He's been touring with him and he was telling me
Speaker 2: about it where he's like, no, no, it's a solid
Speaker 2: stand up hour.
Speaker 1: There's no light. He's doing stand up.
Speaker 2: It's not like he was just saying how much he
Speaker 2: loved it and it was so good and solid and
Speaker 2: he really respected.
Speaker 4: It and Roz had a great, great time with him too,
Speaker 4: and yeah, it was really good.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And that I just briefly talked to him, and
Speaker 6: it was about how the stand up is totally separate
Speaker 6: from the drag performance.
Speaker 2: But one of my favorite like things I've ever seen
Speaker 2: on the internet was the first time I saw a
Speaker 2: Bob the drag Queen, and it was that live show
Speaker 2: video where he came out on stage and he was
Speaker 2: wearing the most gigantic wig and then the wig the
Speaker 2: wig snatch reveal is that there is a six year
Speaker 2: old girl sitting on his head.
Speaker 1: Were like a five year old maybe, but.
Speaker 2: Like a little It's the one of the most incredible
Speaker 2: fucking things I've ever seen, and it's so the audience
Speaker 2: goes fucking insane that it is so funny.
Speaker 6: It's way better than my wig bit Baby. It was
Speaker 6: an early Wigbit'll.
Speaker 4: Just describe it because that'll be funny. It was I
Speaker 4: just acquired tail don't show.
Speaker 6: I acquired six identical wigs and I just had them
Speaker 6: on top of each other and I did my normal
Speaker 6: stand up, but I'd stop and go. I'm sorry. I
Speaker 6: can't lie to you people anymore. I'm not who you
Speaker 6: think I am. And I'd take it off and there'd
Speaker 6: be another I did it over and over though.
Speaker 4: How many wage sixteen seventeen.
Speaker 6: Well, at the end my hair looked like I had big,
Speaker 6: curly hair, and at the end it was my real hair.
Speaker 6: And so I'm pulling on my real hair, okay, which
Speaker 6: I know it's I'm describing it. It's much more impressive
Speaker 6: to say a six year old girl sitting on my head.
Speaker 6: That's why it's better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you didn't look. You didn't win that one. Bob
Speaker 2: the drag Queen won that one hands down.
Speaker 6: Well you weren't there the night that it got me
Speaker 6: second funniest person in Austin. Soo back now I'm roasting.
Speaker 4: Karen hold On.
Speaker 1: I was there that night.
Speaker 6: Oh no, you were one of the judges.
Speaker 1: But said not first, I said, definitely.
Speaker 4: Not literally A rough ride around here.
Speaker 1: It's tough. It is tough around here.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, watch what you say.
Speaker 4: I I'm I. We should have taken me to some
Speaker 4: Epps some salts, so canna make a paste epsom salts.
Speaker 4: You don't need a bathtub. You don't, Chris Fairbanks, I
Speaker 4: never know what's gonna come out of your sweet little
Speaker 4: mouthful and into my earbuds.
Speaker 6: And it's just a mouthful of salt.
Speaker 1: It's just salt, rock salt.
Speaker 6: I keep thinking, I keep thinking, I'm saying the printer company,
Speaker 6: which is ep Sun right, And we decided last time
Speaker 6: that I need to do a joke where I'm throwing
Speaker 6: a plugged in EPSOM printer into the bathtub with me.
Speaker 6: Just end it all.
Speaker 4: The last printer I bought is still it never got open.
Speaker 4: It's I think it's still sitting in the garage. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I just do What do you do with them? Like
Speaker 4: I don't know. I have this like fear slash reluctance
Speaker 4: of returning and laziness is around it there too. Why don't?
Speaker 1: Why do you want to return it? And you just
Speaker 1: don't it's no good for you.
Speaker 4: Well, Arthur already had one, and I just didn't want
Speaker 4: to buy the ink, and I, oh, when I immediately
Speaker 4: broke it, I forgot that.
Speaker 6: Well they're so.
Speaker 1: Rickety and fragile and ridiculous.
Speaker 4: And then yeah, I was in Palm Springs for two
Speaker 4: and a half weeks. Long story In October kind of
Speaker 4: house sitting and you're going.
Speaker 1: To tell that story in October to us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was going to Okay, yeah, I was riveting
Speaker 4: no matter what month of the year. But I went
Speaker 4: I had to go to Staples to get something printed
Speaker 4: because it's Pump Springs and it was like twenty five
Speaker 4: cents a page and their printer was broken. Yeah, And
Speaker 4: you know what I did was for an audition, and
Speaker 4: I just called an agent said I'm not going in
Speaker 4: on it now that things aren't so bad that I
Speaker 4: can't pass on something I'm never going to get and like,
Speaker 4: try to do an audition in Pump Springs on the
Speaker 4: self tape.
Speaker 1: It's got to be a good feeling.
Speaker 6: I mean when someone wants me, if someone wants me
Speaker 6: to print something, I'm like, what year do you think?
Speaker 6: Do you want me to fact something too? Like I
Speaker 6: who has a printer anymore? Let me sign it and
Speaker 6: emailed it digitally.
Speaker 2: I have to say I like a hard copy, and
Speaker 2: I feel guilty about it because, oh I got a
Speaker 2: long at work.
Speaker 1: Because it just is easier for me to I think
Speaker 1: it's probably ADHD related. Let's go all the way away.
Speaker 6: Like you're wanting to do donuts a little bit.
Speaker 1: It's kind of fun in the.
Speaker 2: Middle of la round about something else that can't have
Speaker 2: any Sorry I brought.
Speaker 6: It up here. Just say churos, sugar and wheat.
Speaker 1: But I like a hard copy to be able to read,
Speaker 1: and like copy edit.
Speaker 4: Or something I do too. I like especially script. You
Speaker 4: can't just do it off your tape.
Speaker 6: I think I think it's the reason I happened.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 6: I don't audition much anymore for commercials, and I think
Speaker 6: I'm like, I don't, I don't. I'm not going to
Speaker 6: get a why are they working on three D printers
Speaker 6: when they can't figure out it?
Speaker 4: Thank you, doctor Fairbanks.
Speaker 6: That's the right question in someone answer just replacing the
Speaker 6: cartridges or filling them up. If you figured out that, here's.
Speaker 4: A part of my crazy, which is vast in the
Speaker 4: situation I live in like it's Arthur's printer, and he
Speaker 4: like I. We both kind of we're both of around
Speaker 4: the same agent, so we help each other out with
Speaker 4: it stuff. Sure which sidebar. I hooked up with the
Speaker 4: guy here and the neighbord the other night on a
Speaker 4: specialty adult app nice and it was fun. But the
Speaker 4: most important thing is he found a much of writing.
Speaker 4: I did that. I lost him on word Microsoft Word
Speaker 4: and I said, can I can I do anything else
Speaker 4: for you?
Speaker 6: Sir? That's so funny?
Speaker 2: Wait, so this was an app where people come and
Speaker 2: help you with your computer.
Speaker 6: He was a farmer.
Speaker 4: It was it was sex, but it was just like
Speaker 4: that was the byproduct. It was the real thing. Was
Speaker 4: like he was in twenty six. Anyway, my pot was
Speaker 4: that and you.
Speaker 1: Did all I have you Well, that's so great.
Speaker 4: You know, people want to be your boyfriend. And I'm like, absolute,
Speaker 4: I love it. And he was asking about my life
Speaker 4: and I was like, I don't know how it came up.
Speaker 4: I didn't force it. I didn't be like, oh, could
Speaker 4: you come over here so we can you know, hasty
Speaker 4: violations and then open up my laptop.
Speaker 6: That's the best premise is if you disguise it as
Speaker 6: role playing, but it's like all these things you need done,
Speaker 6: sexy secretary, you know what. I what really turns me
Speaker 6: on if you could take shorthands someone that.
Speaker 4: Knows, yes, I'm going to do that.
Speaker 6: I think tears really smarts to.
Speaker 4: Cornell Forgot's sake. But I when it's Arthur's printer, his
Speaker 4: printer and like I do the ink when someone else's
Speaker 4: thing and I can feel And this is I think
Speaker 4: from being for me family of a lot lot of kids.
Speaker 4: If I can feel superior, once I get to know something,
Speaker 4: I'll take care of it. I'm like, I'll get the paper,
Speaker 4: I'll put the ink in out Right, if it was
Speaker 4: just me in my house, i'd be like baby print
Speaker 4: print that. If it's our through, I'm like, oh, get
Speaker 4: out of the way. Yeah, not literally, just in my mind.
Speaker 4: This is not like in the way.
Speaker 6: Yeah, move Arthur enough with your punk rock flyers smooth.
Speaker 4: You have to come over sometime and like there's that.
Speaker 4: He's decorated like a seventies punk rock rock and roll basement.
Speaker 6: Like a CBGB's more colorful.
Speaker 4: They're not dirty and smelly and piss on the walls.
Speaker 4: But like yeah, yeahs like like like posters, like every
Speaker 4: single record album, all kinds of funny things. I love
Speaker 4: the drum set, all the guitars of old jukebox. It's
Speaker 4: pretty cool.
Speaker 6: That is cool. That's a great theme that I thought about.
Speaker 6: I did wallpaper in my apartment. I went overboard, but
Speaker 6: what pattern well I was thinking of because the Halloway
Speaker 6: bar near my house that they used old rock flyers
Speaker 6: as a wallpaper and it looks amazing because they did
Speaker 6: a good job. And I'm like, oh, this looks like
Speaker 6: a CD bathroom, but it's a clean, finished wallpaper job
Speaker 6: of rock flyers, Like it doesn't have to be pie
Speaker 6: smell themed to be you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 6: it's neat. But I ended up with just doing a
Speaker 6: snowy mountain scene like a wall photo mural.
Speaker 4: More importantly, our new neighbors moved in there and they're
Speaker 4: a hot gay couple. Can you imagine how lucky we
Speaker 4: feel in here, right in there, right next door, because
Speaker 4: this neighborhood's all these craftsmens that are all individual. It's
Speaker 4: a long story, but they redid the front better and
Speaker 4: they're like lovely, kind of conjured up better neighbors.
Speaker 1: Oh that's very exciting. This house is gorgeous too.
Speaker 4: I love it, right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's really That's why it's just saying about this neighborhood.
Speaker 6: You go twenty feet and all of a sudden there's
Speaker 6: like a different theme.
Speaker 4: Isn't it wild?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean LA used to really be
Speaker 1: something it did.
Speaker 4: These are all built in the teens. I guess it's
Speaker 4: also to give too much away of my.
Speaker 6: Location the old yeah, please don't well all, yeah, I
Speaker 6: ain't scared of nobody my area. Yeah, it's Angelino Heights.
Speaker 6: And it's so funny because on where I live, it's
Speaker 6: like basically where they shot training Day. But then you
Speaker 6: go around the corner and there's these beautiful refurbished Victorian
Speaker 6: homes where it's like, this looks like the college.
Speaker 4: Well, no, it's charmed. It's thriller. It's Coljak.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, right right, it's charmed.
Speaker 1: Col Chack.
Speaker 6: Every house from the UPN network is in my neighborhood.
Speaker 4: I've been comforting myself watching a Colchak the night soccer
Speaker 4: episodes on Peacock to go back to my childhood fund
Speaker 4: talk about.
Speaker 2: It was that guy on fen Fund because he was
Speaker 2: like Cole Jack is in such a bad mood all
Speaker 2: the time.
Speaker 4: It is nothing but white straight man, possibly straight because
Speaker 4: the sexual tension between him and Simon Oakland, who places editor,
Speaker 4: is so strong and they are screaming, spittling in each
Speaker 4: other's face the entire time about a werewolf for a
Speaker 4: witch who's a fashion designer.
Speaker 1: But it's like, yeah, there's no.
Speaker 2: It's it's the opposite of like entertainment. It's like, do
Speaker 2: you want to watch two old men fight?
Speaker 4: And they're probably in their forties, they look like they're
Speaker 4: in their seventies today, and there they are screaming at
Speaker 4: the back row of the theater when the cameras three
Speaker 4: inches away.
Speaker 1: And you can smell the brown liquor.
Speaker 2: It's just that's the kind of fine old pestiche lowing.
Speaker 4: And it's why I think I was raised on that stuff.
Speaker 4: Where one time I was doing an episodic or a
Speaker 4: procedural and they, I want to say it was the
Speaker 4: police offers questioning me because of the crime I might
Speaker 4: have done. Said we got He's like, he's like, what
Speaker 4: do you What? Am I in the back row? I'm
Speaker 4: sitting right here? Why are you yelling at me? Oh? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Was he the series regular Son.
Speaker 4: Of a B And I asked, wanted, No, just gonna
Speaker 4: look at my MDV.
Speaker 6: Oh okay a couple.
Speaker 4: Does this mean.
Speaker 1: No that we're wrapping it down?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I mean I'm just tightening it up. I don't know
Speaker 6: what that means. I were coming. It made less sense
Speaker 6: to keep driving around. We've seen a lot of unilluminated pedestrians.
Speaker 4: It's true.
Speaker 2: Also, those two guys that had their heads pulled up
Speaker 2: and tied real tight, I'm like, well, those are they're
Speaker 2: doing crimes.
Speaker 6: They're just cold. Just they're cold. They're regular people with
Speaker 6: cold chins.
Speaker 1: They're just cold. They didn't expect it to turn this cold.
Speaker 4: I'm probably hooking up with one of them. They're just
Speaker 4: trying to be honest.
Speaker 6: Next time you come over, can you pretend you're doing
Speaker 6: a crime again? That other one look like Outside my
Speaker 6: Dreams again, Chris, did you was it a pocket? What
Speaker 6: were you doing where you talked about old horror movies?
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm still doing that. Yeah, Yeah, I'm actually going
Speaker 4: at seven thirty to do a bonus.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's called Sam Pancake Presents the Monday Afternoon Movie. Oh yes,
Speaker 4: and Karen Bernadotte, Cristo Priscilla kill Gariff has done it
Speaker 4: and she was brilliant.
Speaker 1: Delight.
Speaker 4: We did this house Possessed starting for Ger Stevenson.
Speaker 2: Yes, and we I think we talked for two and
Speaker 2: a half hours. We just like, good luck editing that bullshit.
Speaker 4: It was a two parter.
Speaker 6: It was a two part All the movies you talk.
Speaker 4: About initially started out just being seventies TV horror movie
Speaker 4: right right, and then it kept going so I expanded
Speaker 4: to like eighty Steve horror movies, and then I did
Speaker 4: like a season that ended up being a couple of
Speaker 4: years of all the teen movies like Sarah t Portrait
Speaker 4: of a Teenage Alcoholic, don Portrait of a teenage run away,
Speaker 4: Go ask Alice, you know right.
Speaker 1: There was one.
Speaker 2: It was someone Scott Bao was an alcoholic. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: and you're getting hit in the head.
Speaker 4: Yes, with the boat or the Boy who drank too much?
Speaker 6: Yes, no way, but I called that. Yes, I love it.
Speaker 4: They played hockey and let me tell y'all something I was.
Speaker 4: I watched it The Boy who Drank too Much? Yes,
Speaker 4: and Lance Kirwin R and P. They watch it again
Speaker 4: if you want your heart to be ripped out in
Speaker 4: the best way, because I kind of yeah. No, I'm
Speaker 4: a funny fella, they say, and I goof fun stuff. Sure,
Speaker 4: I seen it. You know, I'm one of the few.
Speaker 4: But this I was gonna watch with another friend of
Speaker 4: mine who like also has the experience of twelve step programs.
Speaker 4: I could just kind of be like, oh, well, look
Speaker 4: what it was like back then. It was so heartbreaking
Speaker 4: and beautiful. Oh and entirely shot on location for some
Speaker 4: reason in Madison, Wisconsin, so it wasn't like Burbank passing
Speaker 4: for you know, Minneapolis or something.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So it has this authenticity. It's so well acted. And
Speaker 4: I try not to be one of those gay people
Speaker 4: who like sees queer coating now and everything, but I'm
Speaker 4: telling you, these two boys had this very special friendship.
Speaker 4: And Lance Kerwin is so concerned about little Scott Bayoes
Speaker 4: and his abusive father and all the drinking, and it
Speaker 4: is heartbreaking. Yeah, And I was like, I can't make
Speaker 4: fun of that. There's been very few that I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: this is too tender and too good.
Speaker 1: And Scott beer was so good, Scott bal was so good.
Speaker 2: Was that the one where Scott Bayo was wearing glasses
Speaker 2: He has like almost like John Denver wireroom glasses on me.
Speaker 4: Maybe I know that there's a lot of hockey. They're
Speaker 4: both skated out and there's a lot of hockey.
Speaker 2: Scott bo It makes me sad because he truly was
Speaker 2: my first love. Like I just remember looking We're in
Speaker 2: Food City and I looked over at the magazine rack
Speaker 2: and he was on the front of TENV magazine and
Speaker 2: I felt my heart like I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 6: Arms crossed right probably yeah, yeahs or like.
Speaker 2: He had a cut up gray sweatshirt that was midriffs
Speaker 2: that I was just.
Speaker 1: Like, I just loved him.
Speaker 2: But and now just knowing like it's just you hate
Speaker 2: that because it's like, no, that wasn't what we were doing,
Speaker 2: Like what are you doing now?
Speaker 6: Oh? Politically yes, fateful.
Speaker 4: Spiteful will be the Secretary of State next week? Good luck?
Speaker 6: Well this this maybe I hurt his feelings this whole time.
Speaker 6: I can't imagine what he looks like. It's just a
Speaker 6: young Tony Danza.
Speaker 1: Well you're you're kind of right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's kind of pixelated mixed with Robbie Bentson.
Speaker 1: He's in the Dylan silo for Before You.
Speaker 4: Go, I'm Not going anywhere?
Speaker 6: Where are you staying any longer? I mean, what was
Speaker 6: the because there's the Boy who Drank too Much? Which
Speaker 6: what was the show where it was the main character
Speaker 6: is a kid running home to about the bad yes, sir?
Speaker 1: And it was Michael Landon's story, yes yeah.
Speaker 4: And he directed it. And it is again Lance Kerwin
Speaker 4: who was marvelous. I don't know what happened. He only
Speaker 4: died a couple of years ago. He went to WHI
Speaker 4: and like there's some kind of religious cult question mark.
Speaker 4: I don't know, but anyway, he's so good in all
Speaker 4: these He.
Speaker 1: Was a great child child act.
Speaker 4: He really was.
Speaker 6: He really was only in the Boy Who Do themed movie.
Speaker 4: The Loneliest Runner, and he hester because his abusive mother
Speaker 4: sticks the urine soak sheets out the window to shame him.
Speaker 6: That. I mean, I've never wet the bed. And I'm
Speaker 6: not bragging, but I that's really money. Yeah, I'm trying
Speaker 6: to train myself. You need a drink more because I
Speaker 6: sure did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm absolutely wet the bed proudly.
Speaker 6: I just that seemed so cruel. I'm just I think
Speaker 6: it just made me feel lucky to have parents that
Speaker 6: didn't abuse me. That seems so awful to me.
Speaker 4: It's heartbreaking.
Speaker 6: It's a rough ride, like go ahead and hit me,
Speaker 6: but don't hang pee, like I don't know.
Speaker 4: And then that's ramped up in the in the picture
Speaker 4: because the adorable girl Melissasu Anderson for the Little House
Speaker 4: and the Peririe moves in next door. So he really
Speaker 4: he has to walk her home and she likes him,
Speaker 4: and he likes her, but like he has to somehow
Speaker 4: make his uses to run to get home before she
Speaker 4: sees it. It's it's seventies were rough.
Speaker 6: It's bizarre that I'm even brought up because I don't
Speaker 6: think I'm remembering it as a child. And when you
Speaker 6: said the boy who drank too much, I'm like it
Speaker 6: all came back to me.
Speaker 4: And it's not called the boy who peed too much.
Speaker 7: Yeah, the boy who ran too much, because you know
Speaker 7: he was such a runner.
Speaker 4: He became a track star, right, Michael Landon became like
Speaker 4: a college athlete track star.
Speaker 2: Okay, for one second, we just talked about Michael Landon
Speaker 2: was so good looking.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, it's it's Unfathomas. He's one of the
Speaker 4: people I look back at as a child. I was like,
Speaker 4: hold me, touch me, snuggle me, sir, your prairie shirt.
Speaker 1: Paw, pa, please, pa, please.
Speaker 4: Paw And he and he died so young, I.
Speaker 6: Know, sad.
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard Frank, You know, Frank Conneff, who
Speaker 1: was on.
Speaker 4: He Don't take a watch in Mystery Science can say
Speaker 4: three thousand almost every night.
Speaker 2: I know, so good he made up a song that
Speaker 2: he used to do at the Fake Allery when we
Speaker 2: would do comedy shows there, and it was it was
Speaker 2: because he had Michael Landon had just died. So People
Speaker 2: magazine had a cover of Michael Dannon and the headline
Speaker 2: was Michael Landon's Legacy of Love.
Speaker 1: So Frank so I wrote this song, and he goes.
Speaker 3: Bring ding ding ding Ding Bringing.
Speaker 2: And he's pretending that he's playing like little Finger, like
Speaker 2: little Finger.
Speaker 1: Symbols or something.
Speaker 4: With his mouth.
Speaker 3: Yes, and then he goes Michael Landon's Legacy of love.
Speaker 3: It's a legacy that comes down from above. It's a
Speaker 3: legacy that and then it basically and then it ends
Speaker 3: with Michael Landon's Legacy of love. And I think of
Speaker 3: it every fucking other day, like it's all I think about.
Speaker 4: That's well, now it's going to be in mind, and
Speaker 4: I thank you for.
Speaker 8: That made it before you stay, I ring made it
Speaker 8: even more sad, like when a dog dies and the
Speaker 8: other dogs like fuck it and then they die with
Speaker 8: the fact that Victor French, her sidekick in All since
Speaker 8: Bonanza or whatever, All the Way to Highway to Heavens
Speaker 8: sure died like the next week, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, really, yeah, right, that's right.
Speaker 4: You French, not French, no.
Speaker 1: So hot in a different way.
Speaker 6: He's beard French.
Speaker 4: Thank you friends for that ride.
Speaker 1: I read it.
Speaker 4: I got all the ingredients I need for my Thanksgiving
Speaker 4: corn pudding, all two of them, because we call me
Speaker 4: a Rosie Bell Fretwell pancake in my family because that
Speaker 4: was my grandmother's name, and she would try to hit
Speaker 4: all the thanksgivings of all the kids. And I'm hitting too, yeah,
Speaker 4: are you? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Nice?
Speaker 4: My sister is it too? And then a friend group
Speaker 4: at seven that's good. Yeah, I'm not you know, I'm
Speaker 4: too nervous to eat. I'll forget to eat that day.
Speaker 4: I'm sure you all that horrible.
Speaker 1: A jew and a do.
Speaker 6: I love you?
Speaker 4: I love you, Karen, my almost birthday twin, Chris.
Speaker 6: Touch my hand you to thank you for being here. Goodbye,
Speaker 6: Sam is the best well you've been listening to? Do
Speaker 6: you need ride, dyn a R.
Speaker 5: This has been an exactly right production.
Speaker 1: Our senior producer is Annalise Nelson.
Speaker 5: Mixed by Edson Choy.
Speaker 2: Our talent booker is Patrick Cootner.
Speaker 5: Theme song by Karen Kilgarret.
Speaker 1: Artwork by Chris Fairbanks.
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Speaker 6: For more information, go to exactly rightmedia dot com.
Speaker 2: Thank you both.
Speaker 4: You're welcome.