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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she

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Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's given me

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversation Masterclass. I'm your host with

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Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. I recognize that we all have different definitions

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Speaker 1: of success. For you, it may be the size of

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Speaker 1: your paycheck. Mine has inspired people to develop a plan

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Speaker 1: to reach their dreams. It's time to stop reading other

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Speaker 1: people's success stores and start writing your own. You can

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Speaker 1: only exceed the expectations by believing in yourself. People always

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Speaker 1: talk about their purpose or gifts. If you have a gift,

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Speaker 1: leave with your gifts and don't let your friends, family,

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Speaker 1: or coworkers stop people planning or living your dreams. My

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Speaker 1: guest on the show is Tavanna Evans. She's the forty

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Speaker 1: seven Uh you know New York and New York. Uh mom, mom, Panura.

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Speaker 1: Let me get that at mampau. She didn't just put

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Speaker 1: a new word out there, and I can't even say it.

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Speaker 1: She has been called the Queen of Crypto due to

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Speaker 1: being an established crypto experts and the founder of the

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Speaker 1: decentralized cryptocurrency known as rob Corn. She was featured on

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Speaker 1: Glamor Magazines in May of eighteen Women in Crypto c

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Speaker 1: and then Bloomberg, Complex, tv C, NBC Recount, mclaire and

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Speaker 1: uh liveaty anything that has to do with talking about

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Speaker 1: this new money that we as African America, we as

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Speaker 1: people of color, need to be aware of it. I

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Speaker 1: me on it. Please work with the Money Making Conversation

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Speaker 1: Master Class. Tavannah Evans. Well, two things when I bring

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Speaker 1: an expert like you, Tavana, because I'm gonna tell you,

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Speaker 1: I I am a credit card person, I am a

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Speaker 1: even myself when it came out, I said, oh, this

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Speaker 1: like me when it comes to cryptocurrency. Absolutely, But I

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Speaker 1: because most of us in our community don't realize that

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Speaker 1: and the rest of the world is using this every day,

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Speaker 1: and we're behind as Americans, and then we're even further

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Speaker 1: I broke you on the show, Diviner can kind of

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Speaker 1: So that's I wanted to. I was gonna stop right there.

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Speaker 1: So then you can take us or explain with Sean.

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Speaker 1: Good good example, but the wrong example. Right. It's a

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Speaker 1: can't discount that, you know, we're fully invested in social media.

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Speaker 1: Like if we were to pull out of Instagram and

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Speaker 1: then we're with Instagram. Graham b um Snoop already said

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Speaker 1: what crypto does. Crypto gives us the ability to monetize

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Speaker 1: where does it come from? Where does the value come from?

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Speaker 1: That it comes from you. It comes from your social value, right,

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Speaker 1: and when you do that, you know you win. I'm

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Speaker 1: talking to Vada uh Evans. She is the She's called

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Speaker 1: working history or working relationship. It's very important. She reminded

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Speaker 1: people have would trust to me. And when I bring

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Speaker 1: individuals on this show and they start talking about cryptocurrency,

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Speaker 1: you know it comes with a warning label. You know,

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Speaker 1: because of the fact that do your research. Just so

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Speaker 1: just because I'm bringing somebody on there, you know, I

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Speaker 1: understand there's risk. You know, there's no risk when you

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Speaker 1: But this is direct risk because it involves your money.

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Speaker 1: How can they reach out to you? How could they?

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Speaker 1: Do you have courses? Do you have online of setups

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Speaker 1: because Bible big walk away from this interview is that

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Speaker 1: they need to find you educate themselves based on your

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Speaker 1: legacy that you put out there and your reputation. Yeah. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: Well it's two ways. I am a masterclass teacher on

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Speaker 1: So if you follow me on social media um, whether

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Speaker 1: personally and educate you on cryptocurrency. UM. So that's one

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Speaker 1: like I want to be right there on the streets

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Speaker 1: educating people about this, you know. And you know that's

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Speaker 1: It's free, just get a wallet, you know. And in

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Speaker 1: First of all, I'm excited, UM. I want you to

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Speaker 1: telling you Devon Emands. I may not have remembered you

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Speaker 1: from two thousand nine, but I remember you in two

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Speaker 1: I want your help, I want to use your talents.

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Speaker 1: I want to use your abilities to help turn that curve.

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Speaker 1: I need to put my name on the wallet. You know, Telford,

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Speaker 1: he needs to put his name on a wallet. So

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Speaker 1: we can start at least creeping into that world and

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Speaker 1: develop some level of comfort that we can be participant.

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Speaker 1: And it's not a scam, it's not something that you

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Speaker 1: thank you for coming on Money Making Conversations master Class.

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Speaker 1: Thank you you've been wonderful. And again this is a

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Speaker 1: digital currency world. The murder version is real, y'all, And

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Speaker 1: she said metavers is absolutely We'll be right back with

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Speaker 1: more Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. You are

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Speaker 1: now too into into the money making conversations. Minute of

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Speaker 1: Inspiration with Rashan McDonald. Hi, I'm Rashan McDonald for Money

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Speaker 1: Making Conversations Masterclass with your daily manute up Inspiration. This

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Speaker 1: week I sat down with war winning civil rights attorney,

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Speaker 1: best selling author, media personality and child advocate Riva Martin.

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Speaker 1: She explains the importance of not getting lost in power

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Speaker 1: money Making Converse Stations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation Masterclass. I am your host with Sean McDonald.

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Speaker 1: I recognized that we all have different definitions of success.

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Speaker 1: For you, it may be the size of your paycheck.

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Speaker 1: Mine is inspiring people to accomplish their goals and live

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Speaker 1: people's success stories and start writing your own. People always

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Speaker 1: talk about their purpose or gifts. If you have a gift,

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Speaker 1: My next guess is the underground Seafood Chief Natasha billups

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Speaker 1: get her attention. Chef Natasha be As an award winning

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Speaker 1: to help them out. Please Welcome to Money Making Conversations

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Speaker 1: Masterclass the One and Only Chef Natasha B. How you

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Speaker 1: don Tasha say Tasha, say Natasha say Natasha. Yes, that's perfect, Okay, cool,

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Speaker 1: because you know quickly, you know, you know, because you

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Speaker 1: you seem like you're really down the earth for a

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Speaker 1: natural person who listens to good music, know how to

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Speaker 1: dance and have a good time. Am I seeing the

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Speaker 1: right person off? Just? Uh? If I missed the boat

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Speaker 1: by a hundred bombs, you know you have me. I

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Speaker 1: let's talk about Okay, now, why can't you do the

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Speaker 1: time too? Because you don't understanding? Is that? Because in

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Speaker 1: the kitchen is a rhythm to kitch cooking? You know

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Speaker 1: that you're getting a rhythm? You know? Uh? Like I

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Speaker 1: don't listen to when I cook. I cannot listen to music.

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Speaker 1: I tried to listen to sports on and destroyed so

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Speaker 1: many meals. I realized, Okay, you have to be focused

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Speaker 1: when you're in the kitchen. So what is your tone

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Speaker 1: of your kitchen when you're in there? Or do you

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Speaker 1: listen to anything? Or you just focus on the mill

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Speaker 1: at hand. You don't like people talking to you? What

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Speaker 1: is the role that you play as a chef when

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Speaker 1: you're preparing meals? Oh, I definitely want to hear music.

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Speaker 1: I definitely want to hear music. Um, So I will dance,

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Speaker 1: especially if my clients are dancing, I'll catch their vibe

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Speaker 1: So all of that transfers to the food, right, And

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Speaker 1: everybody know, food emose emotion. Good foods, you know, makes

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Speaker 1: want to share good stories. And some people say good

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Speaker 1: food make them go to sleep if they eat too

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Speaker 1: much of it. What type of music do you do?

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Speaker 1: You feel kind of like um equates to your brand

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Speaker 1: of vote of the culinary works that you deliver, as

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Speaker 1: far as desserts, as far as as far as meals,

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Speaker 1: as far as andre that you delivered to the general public. Um.

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Speaker 1: I most always listen to some gospel before okay, okay, okay.

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Speaker 1: I usually always pray and it's a gospel song at

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Speaker 1: some point before you, uh, the food, before the gets

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Speaker 1: to you. Well, you know, I think it's because you know,

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Speaker 1: we're supposed to pray before we break bread. Anyway, so

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm getting a double blessing with your meals.

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Speaker 1: You you got the spirit. Then you're going in the

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Speaker 1: kitchen with the spirit, and then when you serve the meal,

642
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: we pray again. We got double dose of the of

643
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: the large blessing on top of this meal. Is that

644
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: is that? Is that a particular reason why you've chosen

645
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: this direction of because you seem like a person based

646
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: on your resume, they could do a lot of things.

647
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: Because you talked about nursing school, why did they eventually

648
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: become Natasha? Why became food? The direction being in the kitchen?

649
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: What what what clicked for you that makes you say

650
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: this is why I'm the most comfortable. This is where

651
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: I feel my dreams should be built out of. Yeah,

652
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: so um, I had started two journeys. I had the

653
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: journey of nursing school and it was something that I

654
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: always wanted, you know, as a new single mom. The

655
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: job security was just there. It's like, you know, get

656
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 1: that nursing degree. And while I pursued nursing school, I

657
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: also started cooking and it's selling plates. And as you

658
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: take a step, you know, God's gonna basically He's gonna

659
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: order your steps. So as you take a step out

660
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: in space, not knowing, hey, what's gonna click nursing school

661
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: died out and I kicked out of nursing school, and

662
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: I literally was like, Okay, God, if cooking is what

663
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to do, then you're gonna open up this

664
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: door for me, and it's gonna work. And literally, the

665
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: moment that I got kicked out of nursing school, cooking

666
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: just it was. Cooking was already building. But once nursing

667
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: school was no longer an option, cooking took off. I

668
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: began traveling every single month. Um this month April is

669
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: my first time that I'm like, hey, I'm gonna sit

670
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: down in April, guys, I'll see you back in May.

671
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: I'll be traveling again in Bade. But as a traveling chef.

672
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: UM April is right now is my first time I'm like, hey,

673
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: I'm not traveling this month now because you you you

674
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 1: used to work, get you got kicked out of nursing school.

675
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: I'm just reasoning from your bio, how do you get

676
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 1: kicked out of nursing school? Natasha be Oh my goodness,

677
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: because nursing is about following directions. So you bake. Yeah,

678
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: so you know when it comes to bacon, there's a

679
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: certain time that you have to make sure wet together

680
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: and make sure drive together. It's the same thing with nursing.

681
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: You really have following directions. And for me, it's not

682
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: about knowing the right thing. It's about the rules. And

683
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: you know, um so I didn't call the rules on

684
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 1: their stay the first day. You know, I'm like, hey,

685
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: this is what you're supposed to do. I'm helping my patient. Well,

686
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: the nurse, my my charge nurse, she's like, I need

687
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: you to step out my patients laying in the bed

688
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: like she was the best nurst. I But it's not

689
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: about being the best in doing what you know it's

690
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 1: the right thing. It's about following the rules. And also

691
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: I just feel like, you know, my steps are ordered

692
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: kicked on on the first day, right right right, right,

693
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: right right right. But like I said, you know, my

694
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: degrees in mathematics, gotta do in mathematics. I'm not doing

695
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: anything related to mathematics other than counting money because I

696
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: don't even do my own taxes. Okay, because I'm fearful

697
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: of doing my taxes. That's how you know. That's my

698
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,959
Speaker 1: my my my numbers amount to my degree. Very smart dude,

699
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: got a degree. It's on the wall. I can brag

700
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: about it. So when you said nurse it wasn't you.

701
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: That's a good thing because you did get so down

702
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 1: for fall down the line. It frustrated you from seeing

703
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: what you really were capable of, what your destination should be.

704
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: Why did you choose nursing? So, like you said earlier,

705
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: nursing was just felt like it was a a place

706
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: where you get a valued education, a secure job for

707
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: you and your family. Was that the reason that did

708
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: someone else tell you girl you should go there? And

709
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: you were following their lead? Um, it's a little bit

710
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: of both. You know. I tried nursing school back in

711
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, and then I got married and

712
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 1: moved away and that so it just burned down. And

713
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: then the divorced it was like, hey, what are you

714
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,280
Speaker 1: gonna do now? It's like, remember you had the passion

715
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: caring for people, you're so loving, you're so smart, Just

716
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 1: go back to school. And it really helped me get

717
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: back on track. So I don't just credit any of

718
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: the time that I spent, you know, pursuing that degree,

719
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: because it kind of helped me refocus and become disciplined again.

720
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 1: And um, it gave me something to do after the divorce.

721
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: You know a purpose again, right, which which is really well,

722
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: let's go to the others because you said, Richard, you

723
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: know I didn't want to follow the rules. Now are

724
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 1: you a self taught chef? Did you go to culinary school?

725
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: So I am a self taught chef. I have no

726
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: official culinary training. I am just a foodie foodie. Okay,

727
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: see that, I'm self taught. But you so you are

728
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,959
Speaker 1: a different level though, So you are you're doing some things.

729
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: I look at your I look at your your your Instagram,

730
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: I look at your pictures, a video. I go, okay,

731
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 1: she is this? This is some natural gifts? What? Okay?

732
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: Let me use me as an example. Why are you

733
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: so different from me as a self taught person? Because

734
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: you know, all your all your final presentations looked so polished,

735
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: so elegant, all users person that looks in the magazine

736
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: or looks in a book, and you able to replicate that. Look,

737
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: how are you able to do that? Natasha? Be um?

738
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,959
Speaker 1: I want to call it like it's it's a little

739
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 1: bit of an obsession. So I um, I love presentation,

740
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: you know, going a little bit back to the nursing,

741
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: being a nurse and just going through that school and

742
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: knowing when you look at food, like your brain and

743
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: your body, it already figures out how it's gonna digest it.

744
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: So you start eating your food before you start eating

745
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: your food. So for me, as a way of like, okay,

746
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna be a chef, if I'm gonna sell

747
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: my food, I want people to look at my food.

748
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: I want to look at my food and and and

749
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: want to eat it before I smell it or taste

750
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: it or anything. So that really separates me. I know

751
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: when I first got started, a lot of chefs they

752
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 1: were using like aluminium pants, and you think there's really

753
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 1: there's no new food. So how do I separate myself

754
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: from the next shop. It's like, okay, my presentation and

755
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: my service, So I make sure whenever I present my

756
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: food to you that it is in the best way

757
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: food to you, outstanding, there's no doubt about it. That's

758
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 1: why I asked you had you any formal training, because

759
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,760
Speaker 1: that's what it looks like and that's an ultimate compliment

760
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: to your natural skills. Now, but thank you. Now, the

761
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: brand that you go under is Underground Seafood. Now, yes,

762
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: underground always seems to me like, you know, you you

763
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: working to undercover. People don't know about you. You just

764
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: blaze in this reputation, but you underground and and once

765
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: people find out about you, they're just blown away. That's

766
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: when I hear the word underground. Now, obviously there's a

767
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: term that you put together underground and seafood. Tell us

768
00:41:54,320 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: about the brand underground seafood. Okay, um, you really just

769
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: hit the nail on the head. When I got divorced,

770
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: my confidence dropped. It just did you know I'm literally

771
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: rebuilding myself and I know that with food. It's like

772
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: even though I'm still being shy and you're still embarrassed,

773
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: and you're still like, I don't want people to really

774
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: know about me, but you're like, I want you to

775
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: eat this good food. Though, So I wanted to stay underground.

776
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: I wanted to stay low key, fly under the radar.

777
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: Hey guys, I have this food, you know, just you know,

778
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 1: playing small um, and that's how I got my name.

779
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: And it didn't stay small at all. As soon as

780
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: people found out that I had fried king crab legs

781
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: and fried lobster. You know, words spread fast, but it's

782
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: spread even that. It kind of spread underground because I

783
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: would still tell people. It's like hey, they would ask me,

784
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: can I share your menu? And I'll be like, okay,

785
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: you can share here, but don't see here. So I

786
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: try to stay low key. I tried to stay low key. Okay,

787
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: now you try to stay low key? Now see that?

788
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: See that that word try. You know, I think on

789
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: on social media videos don't trying to figure out how

790
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: the word try and social media they don't go together.

791
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: You posting videos that go fire on the Tosha be,

792
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: how are you trying to be low key? You know

793
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: it's a mental thing, mental thing, a mental thing. Huh.

794
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: I'm looking at they videos going I should wish my

795
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: video could go viral. So when you first, when you first,

796
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: you know, I'm inspired by you first of all, the

797
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 1: Trisha Be because because I think that when I created

798
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: this platform, Money Made Conversation Masterclass, it was designed for

799
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 1: people to show that everybody's journey is different and it

800
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily have to be quote unquote the proceved path

801
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: and the perceived path is that you know, you go

802
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: to school and and then you get this job and

803
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 1: and then wail and there are no flaws to that path.

804
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: To me, the everyday person. Path is a path filled

805
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: with flaws. And I always tell people your kids not

806
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: to make the same mistake at least twice. Don't make

807
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: it twice. Okay, you can make it one time. Making

808
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: it twice you borderline. Just don't give a hoop. But

809
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,720
Speaker 1: in your case, you know you know. It all started

810
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: selling plates. Now, when I go to here in the

811
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: words selling plates, I go back to my church days,

812
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: I go back to my fraternity days in college where

813
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: we're just selling plates to to to raise money, just

814
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: a little bit of money. And it wasn't a lot

815
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 1: of money, but because I'm time, it was more work

816
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: making the plates and the money you got out the plates. Okay,

817
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: so let's talk about hot all started to the evolution

818
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 1: where the month of April you ever take time off

819
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: for yourself in and back and made you back in

820
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: the ground, Mother's day back in the ground. So just

821
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: talk about that early start, because like you said, when

822
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: you got your divorce, you lost all your confidence. You

823
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 1: you you were insecure, you didn't have any direction. You're

824
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: just reaching out. You reach You reached out to nursing school.

825
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: That wasn't the direction. And so when did that whole

826
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: I'm a count on me. I don't depend on me.

827
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go down being me. Um. So just you know,

828
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 1: just a little background. I during the divorce, I found

829
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: that cooking was such a passion for me and it

830
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: brought me so much joy. So really, um, I started

831
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: selling place because I annoyed my whole family. They're like,

832
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: you're cooking lobster again, like you know, like kid crab again.

833
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: Can we get something else? So I had offered it

834
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: up on social media, Hey does anyone to want to

835
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: buy plates from me? And when a but I think

836
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: I sold ten plates and those ten people literally told

837
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: probably another set. Okay, okay, Natasha, you sold templates where

838
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: I sold ten plates out of my parents home. So

839
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 1: people drove up to your parents home and got the food. Yes, yes,

840
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 1: they came and got it. They came and it was

841
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: like a little little plastic plate and you know you

842
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: put a little a little moon fall on top or

843
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: plastic spoons, and I, um, you know, I'm kind of

844
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: heavy handed with my portion sizes. So they got yeah,

845
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: And I did this red snapper, so fried the fish

846
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: pole with the onions pepper celantra. I have the special

847
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: sauce that I use mac and cheese, which is now

848
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 1: smack and cheese and some stir fried cabbage. And it

849
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 1: was so good that they literally told all of their friends,

850
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,959
Speaker 1: like at least ten. Everybody told another set of ten people.

851
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: And the next week they asked me to do the

852
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:08,959
Speaker 1: same thing, and it just continued to grow every single time,

853
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,479
Speaker 1: every single time. We'll be right back with more Money

854
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Speaker 1: Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now, let's return to

855
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. So, who was

856
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: ready to kick you out of the house first? Okay?

857
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: You know you turn their house into a into a

858
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: a stop and go okay, eat the go uh, get it,

859
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: get it wild hot go okay people. Did you have

860
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: a like our window thinking only come intending to or

861
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: for the six What were the rules did you put

862
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: in place for this food business? Did you set up

863
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: at your at your parents home? So it was something like, Hey,

864
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: it was maybe like a four hour window because we're

865
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: starting small, so it's like a four hour window. Hey,

866
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: between these hours you can come get your plate. So

867
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: now look, if I do it now, everyone has an

868
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: exact time. I don't do the one though, anymore because

869
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: then everyone one time and you know, um, I have

870
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: you have an exact time that you can pick up now,

871
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: like you come at one fifteen with maybe three other

872
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: people who are allowed to come at one fifteen, and

873
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: you guys can get a plate. I've never heard this

874
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: story before, and this is so original to me and

875
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: such a story filled with blessing and also support because

876
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: you have to have support for that to happen. And

877
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: so then then people coming and there's trust there too,

878
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: because you know, people come in your house. You know

879
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: that looks looks kind of like okay, she in a house, Okay,

880
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: is it right? Coming out there? Right? And then but

881
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 1: they then they told other people, so that I mean

882
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 1: that they had to convince these people you need to

883
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: try this. I know this sounds crazy, she's over there

884
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 1: cooking out up my house, but this it's worth going

885
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: over there. So at what point did you realize you

886
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: had something special in your talent? The underground seafood brand,

887
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: the chef Natasha b at the time Natasha Billups was building. Um,

888
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: I think when I started, when I fried came crab,

889
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: it was good. I told my mom was like, that's it.

890
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: A millionaire She's like, okay, you may fire hunt it out,

891
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 1: like we are you talking about? And it was like

892
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: this is it. It's like I know, only bad time hundred.

893
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 1: But I'm like, mom, I'm a millionaire. I'm a millionaire.

894
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: And then I would you know. I got to a

895
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: month where the income was a thousand, and it's like, Mom,

896
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: I told you, look, I'm a millionaire. Like I got it,

897
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: Like I don't know when I'm gonna get it, but

898
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: I got it. You get to two thousand and you like,

899
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: I do you hear what I'm saying? Like I could

900
00:49:54,840 --> 00:50:00,479
Speaker 1: keep flipping this thing. I got something. Yeah, so once

901
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: it once I did King Crab, you know that was

902
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 1: it for me. But the King Crab wasn't what caused

903
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: me to go viral. Like I'm known in Maryland for

904
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 1: doing fried King Crab legs. But I have this thing.

905
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: Once I started doing private dinners, I'm always thinking about

906
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 1: how I can make this dinner better? And I would

907
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: do these fruit displays and I would always look at it,

908
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: this fruit display is beautiful. How can I make this better?

909
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: So I started doing watermelon fruit displays and I would

910
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: do them for free, just over deliver every time. I

911
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,760
Speaker 1: go on a client's home, and that's what actually caused

912
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: me to go viral. Um And I like to tell

913
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: this story because it's like, hey, no one was asking

914
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 1: me for a watermelon display when I did it. My

915
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: clients weren't paying before it. I literally just figured out

916
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: how to over deliver, and it's what's caused me to

917
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,720
Speaker 1: go viral. It caused me to get even more clients,

918
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 1: so now I can charge for it. Now. There's two

919
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: things you're hearing this conversation. First of all, when she

920
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: says she was selling the plates, she kind of over

921
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: delivered on the food, which means that you know, our

922
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 1: black people they like getting extra You know, if you

923
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: go to any restaurant, black people will take a dog

924
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: get bag out of a restaurant. They I don't care

925
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: if it's fries, it's rise, that's a win. That's a

926
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: win right there. So she knew that. So then when

927
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: she started on these caterings catering opportunities, she realized that,

928
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna do these free watermelon decorations and

929
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: they wouldn't asking for But it also made her brand

930
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 1: bigger and more thoughtful, and people saw extra value and

931
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: they supported her. More so as a young entrepreneur. These

932
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 1: is just natural talent that you picked up on as

933
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: a marketer. Correct, m h yes, I'm always thinking about

934
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: you know, what does this look like? Now? You you

935
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: work for a lot of different people, so there you're

936
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 1: working with comedians. I'm a former comedian. So what funny

937
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: people have you worked with in this business that have

938
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: eaten your fantastic food and made you do I guess,

939
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: I guess once you can say the your celebrity chef,

940
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: you really are, and because you're a celebrity chef, you're

941
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,919
Speaker 1: able to start naming your ticket. You travel a lot.

942
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: What's the next step in the type of guests that

943
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: you have? As far as I know, this beyond comedians,

944
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: the entrepreneurs, their corporations, they're all types of people. But

945
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: what's the goal. But first, let me already just know

946
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 1: some of the working comedians you've been you've been uh

947
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: you know feeding lately eating. My favorite footy comedian is

948
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: Timothy Shropshire in Charlotte, North Carolina. Um he put me

949
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: in contact with uh Dasi Banks, so I got to

950
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 1: cook for Jasi Banks. Um. I always have followed DC

951
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: Irvin on social media. I saw him when he was

952
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,959
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, and I'm telling him like, hey, get cheese

953
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: snacks from here, but when you ever, whenever you come

954
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: to Maryland, I have to cook for you. So it

955
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 1: just so happened kind of around this time last year

956
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: he was in Maryland and I reached out to him again.

957
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: So I got to cook for DC Urban and Marlon

958
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: made so like as far as some of my favorite

959
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: comedians them, and then I have my social media comedian,

960
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: um Curran Claiborne. I just cooked from him in Baltimore

961
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:31,240
Speaker 1: and he's hilarious, hilarious. So yeah, those are my favorite.

962
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: You know, the beauty of what you do. I'm just

963
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 1: gonna ask this question, and um, what about the food specialty?

964
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 1: You know, like I said, I love hamburgers, I love

965
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: pizza's pizza and uh and so anything that looks like

966
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: a piece of fried chicken. I mean, okay, why seafood?

967
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: Why why why why why did that become your food specialty? Seafood? Oh?

968
00:53:55,400 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: Because I it's two things. Personally, I of seafood. So

969
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 1: really I could be a Pestytarian because I can eat fish,

970
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 1: you know, shrimp, I can eat that every day of

971
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 1: the week. So that for me is a passion. And

972
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: then I also look around me to see just to

973
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 1: know the climate of what everybody else is doing. Everyone

974
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 1: is doing the hot honey wings and you know the

975
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 1: Jamaicans they got the ox tails. The Africans they got

976
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 1: the food food and the peanuts food. You know, so

977
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: it's like, what can I do to stand out? That's

978
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: also a passion of mine. And seafood is definitely it

979
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 1: like one, I'm in Maryland, so Maylanders we love seafood.

980
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 1: So if I can present amazing quality seafood and I

981
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: can hone in on that, then when you think about seafood,

982
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: you think about fried king crab legs, fried lobster, You're

983
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: gonna think of me, right. You know. The beauty of

984
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: this interview is that I see a person who, Um,

985
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: It's about empowerment. It's about being able to look in

986
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 1: the mirror and see a lot of strength. At one

987
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: point you may have not seen that strength, but you

988
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: see it now and I'm sure you willing to share

989
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: that strength, especially with women who may feel like you,

990
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 1: especially single moms who may feel they don't understand where

991
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: they can go with their lives. Talk about that discovering

992
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 1: that self empowered with within yourself and how do you

993
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: share it outside of the world of cooking. Um. Just

994
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: cooking became a source of empowerment for me because it

995
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 1: gave me control over my life again, it increased my

996
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: finances and increase myself esteem. UM. And then I found

997
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: that people, through my pain and what I've been through,

998
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,399
Speaker 1: people begin to look at me as like a source

999
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 1: of inspiration. And I never want you just to look

1000
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 1: at me and think, oh, that was so great for Natasha.

1001
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 1: I'm so glad I did that for Natasha. But like you,

1002
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 1: you know, my situation is it's so common. It's so

1003
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 1: common to so many people. So many people have gone

1004
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 1: through what I've gone through. So I don't want you

1005
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 1: to look at me and just think, oh, inspiration. But

1006
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 1: I would love for you to take my story and

1007
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 1: to be empowered as well. I would love to help

1008
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 1: you as well. I have so many other chefs that

1009
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: have culinary training, they've graduated, they already have working, um

1010
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: successful catering businesses, and they've reached out to me and

1011
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:34,720
Speaker 1: asked me to be their mentor. And it's like, wow,

1012
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 1: you know, I'm looking at you like you have something

1013
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: that teach me and you went to school, you know,

1014
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: but they're still even with college training, they're still looking

1015
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:48,240
Speaker 1: for that empowerment and that mentorship. So I'm actually working

1016
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: on a mentorship program now that will be available later

1017
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: this year, and we're gonna, you know, we're gonna take

1018
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: other people and we're gonna empower them, especially women and

1019
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: especial helping um children and teens. If they want to

1020
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: get into cooking, I want them to know that, like,

1021
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 1: you can do this as well, you can do this

1022
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: as well. Well, you're you're an inspiration. I'm very happy

1023
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 1: I got the interview to today on Money Main Conversation Masterclass.

1024
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 1: You know, her brand is Underground Seafood. Believe me, the

1025
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: word underground is just a just a phrase now because

1026
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: she's not underground no moment. She's very much above ground.

1027
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: And she's out there doing the thing on social media.

1028
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: She's traveling in this country. And and when you get

1029
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: that that that conference together, please come back so we

1030
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: can talk about that. And we're we're focused on that

1031
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: part of your life, which I think it's going to

1032
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: become a major part of the blessing that you're gonna

1033
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: be sharing with people. Right now, you're sharing your blessings

1034
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: stroggl in that kitchen. But I think your your next

1035
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 1: journey is going to be outside the kitchen, but using

1036
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: the strength that you gained through seafood and the color

1037
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: of the world that you were not trained in. That

1038
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 1: God just gave you that talent to you and you

1039
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:00,919
Speaker 1: stuck with it in you. You took a a person

1040
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: who didn't believe there was a future that she could shape,

1041
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: but you're shaping in my friend. So Natasha be Chef

1042
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: Natasha B. Thank you for coming on Money Making Conversation Masterclass.

1043
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: Thank you for having me, Thank you for having me,

1044
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: and you're absolutely fantastic. If you want to hear seeing

1045
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: the money interviews on money Making Conversations, please go to

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Speaker 1: money Making Conversation dot com. I'm with Sean McDonald. I

1047
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 1: am your host. You've been listening to Money Making Conversations

1048
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Speaker 1: Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Always remember to lead with your gifts.

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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass is a presentation of thirty fifteen

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Speaker 1: Media Incorporated. You are now tuned into the Money Making

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Speaker 1: Conversations Minute of Inspiration with Rashan McDonald. Hi, I'm Rashan

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Speaker 1: McDonald for money Making Conversation masterclass with your Daily Minute

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Speaker 1: of Inspiration. This week, I sat down with financial motivator

1054
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Speaker 1: and founder of mind Right Money Management Ash Cash. He

1055
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: talks about the importance of not letting your pass and

1056
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: how people view you determine your future. Um. I have

1057
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: a bunch of my friends who are dead or in

1058
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: jail because they were they too had the similar background,

1059
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 1: but instead of you know, taking their destiny in their

1060
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 1: own hands, they listen, you know. And and so for me,

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