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Speaker 1: What's up, y'all is Sugarl Dray and the Call and

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Speaker 1: lex P from Poor Minds, And we're here with a

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Speaker 1: funny and talented DC from eighty five South and we're

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Speaker 1: here at Backwoods backstage and we're sitting here with the

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Speaker 1: talented cause from Dreamville Records.

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 3: Joke here shouted Okay, I have to know we are

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Speaker 3: on your stopping grounds right now because you are a

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Speaker 3: Dreamville artist.

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Speaker 2: We're at Dreamville Fest. How does that feel being.

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Speaker 4: An artist signed to J Cole and being at the festival?

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Speaker 2: It's amazing.

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Speaker 5: Every year is this same thing? A bunch of love

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Speaker 5: family drink of your family. I've been, you know, with

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Speaker 5: them for the past like ten years, and then this

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Speaker 5: ship every year. You feel me it's supposed to be

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Speaker 5: the last one. I've seeing rooms on the internet that

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Speaker 5: it ain't gonna be the last one. I don't know

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Speaker 5: what's true or.

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Speaker 2: Not, you feel I be minding my business. I just

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Speaker 2: looked on Twitter.

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Speaker 5: Nah, but yeah, no, it's amazing. It's always loved it.

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Speaker 5: It's a good vibe, ain't no. You know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 2: Dope? So how did your journey start?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 2: How did you get around Cole like, how did you

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Speaker 2: get on the label?

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Speaker 5: Shit, I just dropped this song at like twenty fourteen

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Speaker 5: from LA and at that time my boy just had

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Speaker 5: like a plug on the block. It's like the blog

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Speaker 5: area and shit, you feel me? And that shit was

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Speaker 5: kind of going crazy on the blog. My homie that

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Speaker 5: went to uh, my old manager Matt McNeil. He went

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Speaker 5: to school with Cole in college and showed him the song,

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Speaker 5: and then Cole went it to meet being shipped and

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Speaker 5: from there his history you know what I'm saying, played

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Speaker 5: on the rest of the shit I had and then yeah,

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Speaker 5: he was like, come on, fucking with me, fucking with me,

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Speaker 5: go on slide.

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Speaker 4: Do you feel pressure being signed to J Cole being like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: he's such a big artists, he's still dropping music. Do

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Speaker 4: you feel like you have to live up to that?

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Speaker 2: Nah? Not at all.

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Speaker 4: Nah.

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Speaker 5: I think it is because we like the way he

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Speaker 5: like we operate this like family, so it's like you

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Speaker 5: don't feel like that, and like I'm a natural competitor,

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Speaker 5: so like of course, like I'm like, you know, when

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Speaker 5: I get in there, I'm trying to take everybody head

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Speaker 5: off the ship from him and everybody, so it is

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Speaker 5: what it is, but I don't feel no pressure. I

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Speaker 5: wouldn't say's pressure, maybe something else, but I want to

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Speaker 5: say it's pressure off.

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Speaker 6: Had there ever been a time in the studio and

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Speaker 6: he pulled you to the side like, look, bro, you

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Speaker 6: went harder than me.

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Speaker 2: You know what?

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Speaker 5: He ain't said it, but then records ain't came out,

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Speaker 5: so I assume.

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Speaker 2: Assude a.

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Speaker 6: Bar up.

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Speaker 2: I assumed I had the better verse.

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Speaker 4: Ain't.

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Speaker 2: Oh he putting you should wrap it tomorrow to do it.

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Speaker 5: I'm like this, who knows? Nah, But I mean this

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Speaker 5: been times when I was so ass too. What niggas

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Speaker 5: it took me off it and tell me so I was,

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Speaker 5: you know it happened, it'd be like.

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Speaker 2: That, you know.

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Speaker 1: So, since we're here at the Dreamville Festival, and obviously

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Speaker 1: you've been to a lot of them, could you tell

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Speaker 1: us about what was your most memorable experience?

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Speaker 2: Damn you know what, it ain't really been.

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Speaker 5: It's probably gonna be the most memorable because in the past,

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Speaker 5: like four years, I used to get lit a lot

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Speaker 5: of Actually, my first time being sober, I'm like ten

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Speaker 5: months so and.

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Speaker 2: Two months sober right now?

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Speaker 5: Okay, so probably yeah, yeah, yeah, ship I don't blame her,

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Speaker 5: but nah, so this probably.

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Speaker 2: Be the most memorable for sure.

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Speaker 5: Other times it was a good time though, you feel me,

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Speaker 5: But I don't know nothing in detail.

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Speaker 1: I was like, really get into experience.

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, like I'm experiencing it for real real this

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Speaker 5: time and getting to soak it in so.

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Speaker 1: I feel it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah yeah, but nah, I mean ship crowds is

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Speaker 5: always great.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. On the spot, I'm like bad with that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: The rehab nothing anyway. You know, we gotta get to

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Speaker 4: so okay, So let me ask you this being at

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Speaker 4: you know, you been signed to Dreamville for a while.

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Speaker 4: You know, we all know how to carry ourselves and

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Speaker 4: see people who are of higher you know, celebrity. But

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Speaker 4: what was a moment where you met somebody and you

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Speaker 4: were like, oh my god, like I can't believe I'm

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Speaker 4: in the studio with this person. This is crazy and

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Speaker 4: it was like a full circle moment for.

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Speaker 2: You ship, you know. I think maybe I think when

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Speaker 2: I first got in with Cole, I think because I

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Speaker 2: was a.

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Speaker 5: Good fan of clothes, so I think that was like

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Speaker 5: the first time and I wasn't around no industry ship

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Speaker 5: in my life like from that world. So I think

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Speaker 5: that was me meeting Cole and Bennings through him was

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Speaker 5: like my mind blowing. And yeah, I don't think I

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Speaker 5: felt it like that since then maybe Kendrick. I was

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Speaker 5: in there with Kendrick one song that was another I'm

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Speaker 5: from l A too, so I'm biased that, you know

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Speaker 5: what I'm saying. So I think that was another time

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Speaker 5: where I was like, damn, that's crazy.

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Speaker 4: You feel me, so it's fair to say you was

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Speaker 4: team Kendrick.

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Speaker 5: Nah, No, I'm a team. I'm dream Ville to the core.

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Speaker 5: You feel me, but I'm team hip hop like I love,

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Speaker 5: I love the sports.

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Speaker 2: You feel me? I said, yeah, yeah, my business very well,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Oh yeah, nah, is that

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Speaker 2: anybody like you want to work with?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah for sure. Uh hear what I just say

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Speaker 5: about that top of it. Every time somebody asked me

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Speaker 5: and I'm gonna lead, I'm gonna leave, like who, I

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Speaker 5: still smoke.

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Speaker 2: I still gout out the back woods, but I still smoke.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but yeah, I don't believe here and like, damn,

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Speaker 5: I should have said this, but ship, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: That's fair walk like damn, so hell yeah, so nice

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Speaker 6: all the lessend.

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Speaker 5: Shit, I ain't choosing Hell yeah.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So what are your like next goals, like what

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Speaker 4: you got coming up or what is something that you're

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Speaker 4: working on this year that you are definitely trying to

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Speaker 4: accomplish and finish.

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Speaker 5: Man, I'm trying to Like, for a minute, I couldn't

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Speaker 5: drop because of some ship with Interscope or whatever.

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Speaker 2: So I finally got free this year.

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Speaker 5: I'm still with Dreamville clearly, but now I'm looking for

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Speaker 5: a new home and uh as far as it's like

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Speaker 5: this stro and ship like that, but I got a

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Speaker 5: bunch of projects in a stash ready to go, probably

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Speaker 5: like three fold them things, to be honest with you,

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Speaker 5: So I was ready to release. I just dropped like

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Speaker 5: three just freestyles back to back, one a week.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 5: So I'm just trying to get my feedback. We get

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Speaker 5: the ball back roll and then get back in this

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Speaker 5: year for real, for real. So yeah, I'm gonna drop

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Speaker 5: them projects at least two, two to three this year.

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Speaker 5: Hopefully you feel me, and uh just get the ball

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Speaker 5: back roll. You feel me?

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Speaker 2: Wait you can't wait? Sel you go crazy? Hell yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're trying.

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Speaker 1: Can you tell us about maybe an artist that year

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Speaker 1: working with or that you worked with on the song

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Speaker 1: coming up that might be coming.

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Speaker 5: Out, to be honest, a lot of I'm already again forget.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 5: I mean to be honest, the new Ship has been

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Speaker 5: a lot of me, and I haven't reached out to

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Speaker 5: them like or thought about what features I would want

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Speaker 5: on them songs in so it's just all me and

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Speaker 5: just because I've been locked in on my go with

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Speaker 5: myself and ship and just knocking my part out and

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Speaker 5: then I'm gonna get to that after so I still

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Speaker 5: got to work on that part.

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Speaker 2: But my mom, I think, okay, cool, We'll tell you.

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Speaker 2: We'll tell everybody where I can find you.

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Speaker 5: Oh, you find me at everywhere, Instagram, fucking TikTok, Twitter,

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Speaker 5: cas c o z Z cas on everything.

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Speaker 2: You'll find me there on Cody Max c O d

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Speaker 2: y m A c C.

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Speaker 5: I'll at your boy of course.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me, for sure, Thank you all right,