1 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: on Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 3 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive by him Dale Lolly here with 4 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. Had usually we are the afternoon tag team 5 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: here on Steelers Nation Radio. We're the reigning tag team champions. 6 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: I got the belts, we got the strap to show it. 7 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: But Matt Mike Tomlin holding his press conference today, UH, 8 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: talking of course a lot about what's going to happen 9 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: on Sunday at quarterback, and much of his answer was 10 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, because you have to wait and see 11 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: what happens with Kenny Pickett. If you remember when when 12 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,919 Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett UH suffered his first concussion this season against 13 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, UM Tomlin came out on Tuesday 14 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:11,919 Speaker 1: and said, well, you know he's been cleared to resume 15 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: return to practice on Wednesday. We we assume, you know, 16 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: if he's cleared, he'll start. There was no such pronouncement though, 17 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: okay he didn't say pick It was still yeah, Pickett 18 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: was still meeting with the neurologists. UH, they'll know more, 19 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: presumably by now they know more than what they did then. 20 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: They'll know whether he is able to practice, whether they'll 21 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: he'll be cleared to practice on Wednesday. If he's not 22 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: clear to practice Wednesday, I don't think he plays. Yeah, 23 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: I mean it sounds unlikely at that point. So I 24 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: know you don't know these answers. But is it because 25 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: there's a second one? So no, I mean it just again, 26 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: it comes down to it comes down to the to 27 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: the you know, how's he feeling? Yeah, you know, is 28 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: is he still experiencing symptoms things of that nature. So 29 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: again you have to cross all the thresholds of the 30 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: UH the five stages UH in the Concussion Protocol and 31 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: in that fifth stages activity and then how do you 32 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: feel after the activity? I mean, again, this isn't a 33 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: broken bone. And I know nothing more more than any 34 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: of our listeners, but I thought this was a more 35 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: violent injury than the first one. You know, again, it 36 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: doesn't mean he doesn't come back, or it means it 37 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: does or doesn't. It means nothing. But I just thought 38 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: that the hit itself, the play was more brutal on 39 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: the body. Yeah. Um, And you know again, concussions are 40 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 1: something we just don't we know more than we did 41 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: ten years ago. Five years ago. But we still don't 42 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: know because you can't just pop the guy's head open 43 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: and take a look and hey, that's that's a bruised brain. 44 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: A right, it's a crack rib or whatever. You know. 45 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: I've run them through a machine and they'll show you 46 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: all things are broken. And I'm not blaming anyone. I 47 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: don't think anyone doing wrong. But he went back in 48 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: the game too, I mean, well that and Mike Tomill 49 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: explained that. He said, you know, he actually cleared concussion 50 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: protocol with their initial tests. He went back into the game. 51 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: And when you do that, they continue to test you. 52 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: So when he came yeah, when he came back out 53 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: after the physical activity, because he hadn't had any physical 54 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: activity after the first sack it was on third down, 55 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: he comes, he comes back out. When he came off 56 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: the field, there was some there was some symptoms, you know, 57 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: maybe he felt, you know, sick to his stomach. Who 58 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: knows what, but he had some symptoms. I can remember 59 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: um that happening to Ben Roethlisberg. I want to say 60 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: the game was in Seattle where he took a hit 61 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: and went back into the game. But then he developed 62 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: tunnel vision and you know, pulled himself out. Um, you know, 63 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: so that happens again. So much we don't know about concussions. 64 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: You know, a guy seems fine and then all of 65 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: a sudden he you know, you start to have those symptoms. 66 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: I don't even envy the best neurologists in the world 67 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: or a concussion specialists in the world, because I bet 68 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: they know it's a difficult thing. Obviously, again, you can't 69 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: just pop the head open and take a look. You 70 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: can't do a he can't do X rays. All know 71 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: that's broken. But coach Salmon did handle this one differently 72 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: than the sovereigns after the first one. Had a different 73 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: tone and a difference. You know. He also said that, uh, 74 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: he wasn't going to name a starter for the next game. Yeah, um, 75 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: you know He's gonna let this play out between mitchter 76 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: Bisky and Mason Rudolph and take I look and see, Okay, 77 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: who looks better. I've gotten a lot of questions, even 78 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: people close to the theme that have said, why not 79 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: give Mitchell or give Rudolph a chance? You know what, 80 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: can it hurt? He's earned it, He's had a tough 81 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: go around. I'm like I don't care. It doesn't I 82 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: don't know what this, I don't know what just this 83 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: he earned it or what? Just give this guy a shot. Yeah, 84 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: I've never got yeah, or boy, he's had a tough 85 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: go around, he's been a trooper. To give him a 86 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: shot like not if he's not better. I've been around 87 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: the Steelers for a long time. That doesn't mean they 88 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: should give me a shot. Tales look good on the 89 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: side of Sometimes the ball drifts over there and he 90 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: throws it back in and it's got a nice spiral 91 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: to do. You have to lose, you know, right, I 92 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: don't get that. I mean, hey, I'm glad Mason's here. 93 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not being hard on the guy, but 94 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: he started string on this team. Shouldn't the second string 95 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: guy start over him? I mean, unless you think Mitch 96 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 1: is gonna throw a bunch of turnovers and we can't 97 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: live that way. The one thing that Tom the one 98 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: thing that Tomlin said today that I felt, I thought 99 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: it was interesting, is when he was talking about those 100 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: two he said they're one or two and two A 101 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: and how we're currently playing or how how we're how 102 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: we're currently operating. Um, I feel either guy could go 103 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: in and and do the job. I think they're operating 104 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: differently now than they were at the beginning of the season. 105 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: It's offensively right. I think they've found their identity. They 106 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: know what works. We saw, they know what they want 107 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 1: to do, and that makes sense, which might not favor 108 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: Mitch after three turners, and obviously that's the key here. 109 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: It's a big key for Carolina too. I mean, when 110 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: they turn the ball over, they lose. When they don't, 111 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: they we're in it, you know, I mean, And that's 112 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: a theme throughout the league. It has been forever, but 113 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: seems more prevalent even this year. If you're gonna play, 114 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: if you're gonna play that running style right, which you 115 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: know there's probably what eight or ten teams doing that 116 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: now that have to play at that play that way, 117 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: any turnover is massive. You're shortening the game too, because 118 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: you know there's not gonna be a lot of points. 119 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: So if there's not a lot of points, you can't 120 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: afford to give possessions aways. With a perfect example of 121 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: that this past week. Obviously, when you hand it three 122 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 1: or more points away and you lose by two, you know, 123 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: and obviously there's correlation here. Do you think there's any 124 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: chance that's Rudolph. I think there's a chance. I mean, 125 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: I think soon ago. He's phenomenal. I mean yeah, I 126 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: mean he's He's five four and one as a starter 127 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: for the Steelers, sixteen touchdowns, eleven interceptions in his career. Um. 128 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: You know, I've never been one who thought that that 129 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: he was junk, right, We've always defended him affair. I 130 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: still hear people say, well, he was a wasted draft pick. 131 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: That's ridiculous, insane. Right, Yeah, he's won you five games. 132 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: If they didn't have that time last year, if that 133 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: was a loss instead of a tie against Detroit, they 134 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: don't make the playoffs. People don't think about this too. 135 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: There's a ripple effect that if he isn't your backup 136 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: that whole stretch, you might be spending ten million on 137 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: some somebody else had, and then you don't have a 138 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: guard or something else that you wanted the draft, you know, 139 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: running Jeff Driscoll or somebody like that. It wasn't Duck, 140 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: wouldn't have been the two the whole time. You know, 141 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: like you guys still find a backup quarterback that's a 142 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: position of the two. Yeah, So I think he'sn't play 143 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: in this league for ten years. Yeah, and the argument 144 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: at well he didn't win against Detroit last year, he 145 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: totally ridiculous. He didn't find out he was starting that 146 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: game until about until about twelve hours before the game. 147 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: I forgot that. It was less than twenty four hours 148 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: before that. Raelth Roethlisberger had taken all of the all 149 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: the first team snaps week. There's a normal work week 150 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: for him. So you know, to expect Rudolph, well, just 151 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: step in and throw forty points on the board in 152 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: a rainstorm in at whether it was bad and we're 153 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: not saying and he didn't fumble the football in the 154 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: fourth quarter and overtime. I mean, no one's saying he's 155 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: Brad Shard, you know. But you can win with him. 156 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: You can win with him, and he's just serviceable Number 157 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: two in my opinion, Um, I would go with Rabisky. 158 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: I mean, to be honest, I would too, But again 159 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: it depends on how they look at it. I thought 160 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: they moved the ball well with Robinsky. I just thought 161 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: he made some mistakes. Uh, you know the thing really, well, 162 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: here's the other thing about Rudolph. So everybody praises and 163 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: Charlie Batch a great guy. I love Charlie Batch praises 164 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: him in Pittsburgh. He's he was a great backup that 165 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: did all the stuff his career. He had five career wins. 166 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: Is a backup? Who's that, Charlie, Charlie Mason Rudolf has 167 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: five career wins as a backup. Yeah, I see what 168 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: you're saying. I mean, in a lot less time, badcast 169 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: Gikowskis and all the guys that are there that are 170 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 1: loved and they're you know, really good. Number two's well, 171 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: I mean, if you don't get in that often, you're 172 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: not getting a lot of wins, right, I'll get you 173 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: so yeah, um, but yeah, I would probably again. I 174 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: thought they moved the ball efficiently. I thought they attacked 175 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: down field. Uh, you know, did some things. I thought 176 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: Mitch did some good things in that regard. But you 177 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: can't make some of the mistakes that he made either. 178 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a knock on pick it at all. 179 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: But if he doesn't throw those three picks and just say, 180 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: those drives end up with field goals, they don't have 181 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: to be dynamic great drives. I bet I'm getting asked 182 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: on the radio. Yeah, you know what I mean, right 183 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: right right? They just won and they put up some 184 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: points and you know, protecting the ball and didn't go 185 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: that way. But I mean, if he only throws one interception, right, 186 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: I think that conversation somebody asked us, you know, I mean, 187 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: someone will say so, I mean, Kenny still learning, why 188 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: not stick with the veteran, you know, as opposed to 189 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: put the third guy? And again that sounds like it's 190 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: a knock on Rudolph, but it isn't. I mean, all 191 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: three of them are. I don't know, one's way better 192 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: than the others at this point, you know, I mean, 193 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: but pick it who you want to play. Of course, 194 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 1: I've also heard the argument, well, you know they should 195 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: have just got rid of uh Rudolph at the at 196 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 1: the trade deadline, or why are they still have him 197 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: on the roster. Well, this is why you have him 198 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: on the roster. There have been plenty of teams this year, 199 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: including Baltimore on Sunday. We've played three quarterbacks this year. 200 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: I mean the Rams played four, right right, I mean 201 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: in their draft pick got hurt and didn't wasn't even 202 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: one of them. They would have been five for them. Yeah, 203 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: I mean it happens every year, absolutely, maybe more so 204 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: this year. Camara got hurt last night. I mean, Stafford's 205 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: out of the year and there's guys everywhere and pick 206 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: up Baker Mayfield. If you're going into the fantasy football 207 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: playoffs this week, and you know you're gonna see a 208 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: new starting quarterback and possibly in Denver this week. We've 209 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: already seen two different quarterbacks in Washington, we've seen We've 210 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: seen uh played a lot this McCoys played. Yeah, you're 211 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 1: gonna see a new quarterback there. Um New York Les 212 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: just played to right and there's talking about maybe even 213 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: going to Winston. Yeah, I mean this year, this week, 214 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: it's all over the late Mike White's heart again. I 215 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: mean he half and that that was the most brutal 216 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: hit I think I've ever seen a quarterback take it 217 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: pretty bad. He took that right in the face, but 218 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: that one was brutal. Yeah, how he got up from that, 219 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's a very good player, but 220 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: he's tough. I'm not worried about him being able to 221 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: play through pain a little better. It can't bounce back, 222 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: that's for sure. No, that was brutal. What we're talking 223 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: quarterback all week. But hopefully Kenny gets out there on 224 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: Wednesday and passes. Yeah, if pickets, If Pickett practices and 225 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: form Wednesday, does his regular workload as he did the 226 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: last time, He's probably gonna play. I say probably because 227 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: I remember an instance where Ben Roethlisberger, and this was 228 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: probably I don't know, two thousand eight, maybe two thousand nine, 229 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 1: somewhere in stretch, where he suffered a concussion, maybe against 230 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: the Raiders or one of those teams. The rules are 231 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: a little different back, they were much different. Yet practiced 232 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: all week long, then on Friday or maybe even Saturday, 233 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: started experience some concussion symptoms that's happened in the last 234 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: ten years across the league and sat out the game. 235 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: Because I can remember heinz word ripping him basically say 236 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: why he practiced all week? Why can't he play? I played, 237 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: I've played with the Cocassia before. Times are different, Core, 238 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: But he's a quarterback, Like, yeah, if you're if your 239 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 1: mind's not working, great, I don't want any quarterback of 240 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: my team, no matter who you are. So, uh that 241 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: being said, I mean I do think pick it's not 242 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: in danger of losing his or any of bad stuff. 243 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: They want to start him, give him as many absolutely 244 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: possibly can. I still think it will probably be Trubisky 245 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: over Rudolph, but you might as well have a little 246 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: mystery out there too. Yeah, why not? You know they 247 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: play the play the game. Other news today Mike Tomas 248 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: announcing that Chris Wormley season done. He's a schedule for surgery. 249 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: I did see him yesterday. He had the full leg 250 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: leg cast on, not cast, but the air cast thing 251 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: on his leg. He was on crutches, So that's not 252 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: good to mention for iron Muth yesterday with the foot. 253 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlas said that, uh, that's something obviously cropped up 254 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: during the game, and he'll be slowed early in the week, 255 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: but he's expected to play the rest of It's just 256 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 1: kind of the bumps and bruises of playing football this year. 257 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: So you could probably expect that the normal guys to 258 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: to miss practice on Wednesday. But don't get overly concerned 259 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: about that. Real quick. On Wormly, I did a podcast today. 260 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: Every month I've been doing this where I just examined 261 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: snap counts to date for the Steelers, and partially because 262 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: my Wednesday podcast on what to talk about, So I 263 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: just whipped up on that one, and Warmly I thought 264 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: was used perfect this year. I mean I think I 265 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: forget what his snap count was at, but it was 266 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: about the snaps, and we're last year. I thought he 267 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: was asked to do he was almost Yeah, And I 268 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: think that's the ideal spot for him. He's a quality player. 269 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: But that also opened the door for I would assume 270 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: Yal and maybe more louder Milk, more louder Milk, Yeah, 271 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: I mean, and I want to see those two young guys, 272 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: you know, I mean so in a way, I know 273 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: what Warmly is. He's a free agent after the year, right, 274 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: think so, and when those young guys, they could get 275 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: an opportunity here and maybe they step off. Yeah, I 276 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: mean that's that's what the You know, every every man's 277 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: misfortune is a one man's misfortune is somebody else's opportunity. 278 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: And that will be the case for the Marvin Leel 279 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: and Isaiah louder Milk. Um, you see anyone else getting 280 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: a bump, I mean I would assume it's those two. Yeah. Um, 281 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: you know, maybe Tyson and Lulu gets a couple of 282 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: extra snaps. But I think I think at this point, 283 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: you go with the younger guys to get them more experience. 284 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: That that's where I was going with. This is the 285 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: the opportunity for Leal and louder Milk, who hasn't played 286 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: as much as I had expected coming into the season. 287 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: Um is good. I mean, let's see what they do. 288 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: Can they be a rotational obviously they like better yeah, right, right, 289 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: right right? But could Leal be a a starter, I 290 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: mean a fifty snap a guy game guy, you know, 291 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: because that is that his path. We'll see. Yeah. Um, 292 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: and that that's something again they have to make some 293 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: decisions there for the long term future as well. So, uh, 294 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: that's not the worst thing that could have happened there. Um, 295 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: it does open a big door. Yeah. Uh, you know, 296 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: I think you know, Mike Tomlin laid out the the 297 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: game I thought pretty well when he was talking about, 298 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: you know, the reasons they lost. Obviously, the interceptions were 299 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: a big part of the special teams play. Um, plays 300 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: that weren't made between the block and the in the 301 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: you know, the punts, the seventeen yard punt in the 302 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: the one that went into the end zone. Um, the 303 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: referenced both all three of those. But he did, and 304 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: he also I forgot I actually I made a note 305 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: of this one in my you know, my my notebook 306 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: when it when it happened, and then I forgot about it. 307 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: But the Ravens had a punt in that game from 308 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: deep in their own end in the second half and 309 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: after the after they had been uh he was after 310 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: the inner sception that was ruled to uh have been 311 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: made at the one, and then the momentum carried Williams 312 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: into the end zone, so the Ravens get the ball 313 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: to one, they got a first down, but then had 314 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: to punt, yes, and it was it was a nice punt, 315 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: like a I don't know, a forty two yard punt 316 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: or whatever out of the ends are he was punting from. 317 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: It was like it was like a forty seven yard 318 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: but I think it was. And then they had a 319 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: holding penalty on the on the return as well. It 320 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: ended up being a fifty seven yard net, which in 321 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: a field position game you would have liked to have gotten. 322 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: You know, Okay, you want to hold them to know 323 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: first without a first down there and make them punt 324 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: from their own end zone. As it was, he was 325 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: part he was punting from his goal line. He was 326 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: punting from his goal line, but you ended up getting 327 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: the ball like the thirty three instead of MIDFIELDELD. That's big. 328 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: I mean it's one more first down that your offense 329 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: has to get. Of course, yeah, I mean things like 330 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: that don't get overlooked by coaches. No, Yeah, alright, ten 331 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: yards is a lot in any situation where we could 332 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: have the ball in striking distance of field goal range 333 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: as opposed to we need a couple of first downs 334 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: to even be in that conversation, you know. Yeah, So 335 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: the little things like that that uh, you know, just 336 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: kind of went against the Steelers in this game. That 337 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: that you know, they lost the football game. Yeah, and 338 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: a lot of it was self inflicted. And give the 339 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: Ravens credit to I mean, I thought their defense, you know, 340 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: they made the receptions, their linebackers were you know, good 341 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: cover guys, and you know, interfered the lanes and all 342 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: those good things. Marcus Williams makes a nice play on 343 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: the the last one year and you know so, um, 344 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,239 Speaker 1: but I thought the Ravens were a better team. But 345 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 1: I also think that if they have one less of 346 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: the field goal block and three interceptions still still win 347 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: kind of sneak out of there with I think if 348 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: they play that particular game with those players as constructed, 349 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: if they play that one ten times, I think the 350 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: Steelers went like eight, especially with Brown coming in right 351 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 1: in that situation, if you know Huntley is gonna play 352 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: X amount of snaps and then go to Brown, you 353 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: really only needed one bounce to at least make him 354 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: throw a little bit. Well, even with Huntley in there, 355 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: they weren't doing much. They weren't, but they're not trust 356 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: him to throw more than Brown. Yeah, but such as life. 357 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: I mean, the more physical team always wins that game. 358 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: And the team that I don't say it gets the bounces, 359 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: but creates the bounces when that helps, Yeah, that helps. 360 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: The Ravens created the bounces. Um, what I don't get 361 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: is people say, well that's that just shows you why 362 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: John Harbor was I'm better coach than like Tomlin. I 363 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, the Steelers are beating them four 364 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 1: times in a row. That's just the way the series 365 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: is going at times, you know, right right that, I 366 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: don't know that that's the argument, that one's the reason 367 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 1: why that one right there? Um, it's probably more of 368 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: a bigger conversation for a whole segment, But we mentioned 369 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 1: louder Milk and Leo. I'd like to see more Connor Hayward. 370 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: I mean, like, I'm not saying it has to be 371 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: youth movement time, but it's pretty close to youth movement time, 372 00:18:58,320 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'd like to see a 373 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: couple of the younger guys step up their participation a 374 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: little bit. I don't know who you play Hayward over, though. 375 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: At this point, I'm losing a little faith in Gentry. 376 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a good blocker, but I don't think 377 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: he's a dominant blocker. I'd like to see more Hayward packages. 378 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I just think but then you're throwing out 379 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: that you're not gonna run with Hayward on the field. 380 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: He's not a terrible blocker. He's different. He's gonna get 381 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: if you line him up in line like you Gentry exactly. 382 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: So that means now you're gonna have friar move blocking 383 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: defensive ends, which I don't know that that. Yeah. I 384 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: just think he's a weapon and needs to it deserves 385 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: more time, and I don't think that's something to me. 386 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: I don't think that's something you can do in season. Yeah, 387 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 1: I suddenly develop a packet. Well, let's have a package 388 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 1: for corner Hayward. I mean since Claypool left, he's been 389 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 1: getting a little bit of bumping time. Yeah, I mean, 390 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: so I would continue that. And if it means less Gunner, 391 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: I'm fine with that too. Well that that's a different story. 392 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: But I don't know that I'm playing over Gentry because 393 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: Gentry gentry doesn't they They both have a T listed 394 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 1: next to their name, and you think that the same. 395 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: You couldn't even you couldn't find two guys who looked 396 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: completely different in the middle, you know, right, they are 397 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: very different. I mean, they definitely present different challenges of 398 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: how you get this guy on the field without the 399 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: other or whatever, you know, And he is not a 400 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 1: direct replacement for that. Now if you wanted to say, 401 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: well you could you could substitute him in some situations 402 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: where you we get wad on the field. Okay, that 403 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: that I could that I could see. But even at that, 404 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: you're only you know, five or six snaps a game 405 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: with with what on the field. So I just want 406 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: to see some trying to come up with young guys. 407 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: I'd like to see more of the diagnose better. And 408 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: he's near the top of the list for me because 409 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: I like every time I see him out there. I 410 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: like him. I like him in camp, you know. And 411 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: he's a unique player in terms of snap I think 412 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: that's more of three thing that you can develop. Okay, 413 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 1: we liked what you did last year. Now let's see 414 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: what we can do with you and after you've get 415 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: the full year under your belt, and maybe put you 416 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: in the slot and use you as a slot receiver 417 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: and like that stuff like that. But I like his prospects, No, 418 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 1: I do too. Um, and uh, you know, we'll see 419 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: how that continues to develop here. Um. 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