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Speaker 1: The trade deadline is just one day away, so we're

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Speaker 1: gonna go through our top twenty five players we think

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Speaker 1: the Mets should, could, and maybe would trade for this deadline.

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Speaker 1: And we also have like fifteen bonus names at the end,

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Speaker 1: we just didn't want to include them. Twenty five is

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Speaker 1: with the Man of the Hour, the Man the myth legend,

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Speaker 1: Luis Robert. Everybody's been talking about him and I want him, James,

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Speaker 1: I want him on this team badly.

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Speaker 2: I do too. We're getting to a point where there's

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Speaker 2: so much smoke around this trade now it feels like

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Speaker 2: there might be some fire behind it. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if exactly it's the Mets that keep leaking these things out.

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Speaker 2: But the fact that every single day a new reporter

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Speaker 2: says that the Mets are interested, the Mets and White

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Speaker 2: Sox are talking, it seems like at worst, there is

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Speaker 2: a conversation that's been going on between David Stearns and

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Speaker 2: Chris Getz in the White Sox front office where this

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Speaker 2: deal is being considered by all sides at this moment.

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Speaker 3: He buster only like the reason we do media marvel.

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Speaker 1: He even put out a tweet today mentioning how the

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Speaker 1: Mets and White Sox are in active conversations for Luis

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Speaker 1: Robert and they've mentioned not just Viento's, but he also

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Speaker 1: snuck in a little bit of Luis on Hellacunya's name

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Speaker 1: into that tweet, to which I know I've been pro

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Speaker 1: trade Viento's for Robert, but if they want a Kunya, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that I'd be happier to trade him than I would

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Speaker 1: be morek Fiento's by far.

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Speaker 2: The whole conversation we had the other day about being

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Speaker 2: relatively pro trade Fianto's for Robert is that we still

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Speaker 2: think Robert is a good baseball player, and we think

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Speaker 2: that Robert is probably good enough to get his op

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Speaker 2: picked up next season. So it's not just a pure rental,

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Speaker 2: but in terms of value wise, we think the Mets

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Speaker 2: should do better if they were trade Viento's then just

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Speaker 2: get Robert, either get a reliever in there, or kind

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Speaker 2: of figure something out like what the Dodgers did last season,

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Speaker 2: making the three team trade with the White Sox and

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Speaker 2: the Cardinals giving up Miguel Vargus, who I think oddly

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Speaker 2: comp similarly to Viento's at the time. Vargas was a

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Speaker 2: significantly better regarded prospect, the significantly worst production to major

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Speaker 2: league level to that point at the trade, and the

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Speaker 2: Dodgers got a position player they need and Tommy Edmond

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Speaker 2: who played the critical position short stop en center for them,

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Speaker 2: and someone who became a shutdown reliever in their bullpen.

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Speaker 2: You can get both of those guys in the trade

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Speaker 2: for Mark Fiantos. That now becomes something that's much more palable,

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Speaker 2: something that makes a lot of sense. Mention if you

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Speaker 2: talked about. Ryan Helsley is very much on the block,

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Speaker 2: someone who would really help out this Mets team.

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Speaker 3: A thinning is gonna be it's gonna be scary until

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Speaker 1: And Ryan Helsley would definitely make the eighth inning feel

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Speaker 1: a lot more secure than what we've got right now

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Speaker 2: Even the eighth inning. We saw it last night and

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Speaker 2: we're recording this Monday night. Right When DS pitches a

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Speaker 2: that guy to pitch the days Edward Diez unavailed on

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Speaker 2: Hills didn't start the season great, but he has been

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Speaker 2: much better lately. He's only given up one earned run

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Speaker 2: He's great. He has struggles with his fastball shape early

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Speaker 1: He say theres eight hundred miles an hour two like

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be completely fine. I'd love to get him,

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Speaker 2: Seems like Helsy, you might have to give up one

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Speaker 2: this to something that structured the round a j ewing

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Speaker 3: Those names could also be floated in what is our

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Speaker 3: third guy on this list? Dave Bednar.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a little bit tougher because he does

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Speaker 1: Dave on this team feels a little less likely, but man,

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Speaker 2: the ten or so best relievers in baseball this year.

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Speaker 2: They said he was tipping his pitches, and I kind

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Speaker 2: of think that's true because the stuff was never bad,

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Speaker 2: Bednar is a real raw rock guy. And I kind

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Speaker 2: But there's a few more relievers on this list. These

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Speaker 2: I think Duran is significantly more available than Mason Miller

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Speaker 1: Yeah, especially because I think the Mets would move a

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Speaker 2: He's also his former His team controls twenty twenty six

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Speaker 2: We'll call someone that has like comfortably become like one

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Speaker 2: It will cost that plus more, probably, yes, but that

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Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I own it.

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Speaker 1: I'm always saying that you said they were gonna be mad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, it's hard to say that someone who

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Speaker 2: But I see the Twins coming out his deadline, probably

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and especially with the looming possibility of Edwin Diaz

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Speaker 3: Sandy.

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Speaker 1: Alcantra is another guy that has been hot on the market,

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Speaker 3: He's been giving us some reports.

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Speaker 1: He said the medicine the Marlins are talking about Sandy,

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Speaker 1: possibly as a trade option. He feels like a weird

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Speaker 2: This is a move i'd love to see if they

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Speaker 1: And I think that's the most important thing here is

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Speaker 3: If they were to get traded here, they.

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Speaker 1: Will help this team make the playoffs, but I don't

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Speaker 2: don't know exactly what we're getting started and started out

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Speaker 2: But the guy like Kelly, you probably you could probably

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Speaker 2: I think that makes sense. But Kelly, I think off

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Speaker 1: on that by any means close about Kelly six hundred

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Speaker 2: That's the only time he's ever pitched in the postseason,

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Speaker 1: So then do you not think that his prices are

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Speaker 2: I still think as a rental that, no matter what

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Speaker 2: no one that was really like a standout guy. Actually

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Speaker 2: that wasn't wealth, No helvy was pretty Castillo. Castillo had

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Speaker 2: control too, so no, they signed extension immediately. I thought

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Speaker 2: maybe it was one year of control then the extension. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: but I think that Kelly is the picture that is

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Speaker 2: the most.

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe I'm sleeping on a merrierl a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Sleep I don't think reize how good MARYL Kelly is.

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Speaker 3: Marl Kelly's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I'm sleeping on him a little bit. But

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Speaker 1: I will say Zach Gallen not starting a playoff game

444
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Speaker 1: for this.

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Speaker 2: Team, he would become the Frankie Mantes. He'd be the

446
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Speaker 2: four guy. He'd be like we he'd be kind of like,

447
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Speaker 2: let's hope you catch lighting in the bottle this This

448
00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,159
Speaker 2: would sound funny saying this two years ago. Zach Gallon

449
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Speaker 2: feels like the worst version of Edward Cabrera. Yeah, that's

450
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Speaker 2: an insane sentence, but it's kind of true. Like one's

451
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Speaker 2: going up, but one's going down. On there's ninety eight.

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Speaker 3: Him and Sandy both gonna be on the move and

453
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Speaker 3: both involved in a trade for each other.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sod no, that for each other. Zach Allen was

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Speaker 1: one for one for jazz. I thought Zach Allen was

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Speaker 1: also then from the Cardinals. Oh he was part of

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Speaker 1: that trade. Yeah, he was one of the prospects. And

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Speaker 1: then he went he went to the Diambacks one for

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Speaker 1: one for jazz when the models got jazz. That's a

460
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Speaker 1: crazy trade. But that that was good work.

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Speaker 2: That for everybody. And then a few other pitchers on

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Speaker 2: this listed to talk about because we know they're available.

463
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Speaker 2: Good chance they all get moved. I just don't know

464
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Speaker 2: they fit for the Mets. Mitch Keller isn't He's like

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Speaker 2: he's the worst version of Merrill. Kelly he's he's very

466
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Speaker 2: stable and very reliable, but he's kind of like Game

467
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Speaker 2: Game three, Game four kind of guy. And then Mike's

468
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Speaker 2: Soroka Jeffrey Springs. I think stroke has upside, but the

469
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Speaker 2: Nationals have not been able to coax that have him.

470
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Speaker 2: Fastball gets popped. I wish you would start mixing more colors,

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Speaker 2: and then I.

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Speaker 1: Want Soroka out of the pen if we trade for him,

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Speaker 1: because he was so good with the White Sox out

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Speaker 1: of the pen last year.

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Speaker 3: That's where I throw him.

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Speaker 2: I just wart a cooky nasty. That slur of is unbelievable.

477
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Speaker 2: It's good against Hi, there's both sides of the plate.

478
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Speaker 2: But then his fastball gets pieced every single time.

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Speaker 1: He's someone but the penn he was throwing ninety nine,

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Speaker 1: and I feel like that chade that allows you to

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Speaker 1: have a mid fastball.

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Speaker 2: Oh for sure, mid fastball ninety nine is no longer

483
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Speaker 2: mid fastball. And he like he's been experimenting more and

484
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Speaker 2: more of the sinker, like bring the sinker back that

485
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Speaker 2: he used to have. But like there's a I know

486
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Speaker 2: there's a color from Mike Soroka that some team's going

487
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Speaker 2: to teach them over the next few years and that's

488
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Speaker 2: going to turn him into like a top for the

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Speaker 2: starting pitcher again.

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Speaker 3: Sounds like something Jeremy Hefner could do. He loves a

491
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Speaker 3: gutter or two.

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Speaker 2: And then the last one again, Jeffrey Springs. I don't

493
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Speaker 2: like Jeffrey Springs very much, but he just if you

494
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Speaker 2: think we really need an Innings either to get us

495
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Speaker 2: there but not not get it, not pitching the playoffs,

496
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Speaker 2: he's another guy who could actually be good as a

497
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Speaker 2: playoff for leiever. Jeffrey Springs.

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Speaker 3: That's the Uh's the Paul Blackburn trade for this year. Basically,

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Speaker 3: if you get get Jeffrey.

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Speaker 2: Springs, he's even a modica more exciting than Paul Blackburn though,

501
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Speaker 2: which is crazy to say, but.

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Speaker 1: I Blackburn coming back to him too could be the

503
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Speaker 1: big deadline acquisition for the Met forget.

504
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Speaker 2: A big deadline exoition. Paul Blackburn ready to go. But

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Speaker 2: that's I think every starting pitch that's even moderately realistic

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Speaker 2: that the Mets could could and maybe should be interested in.

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Speaker 1: Yes, now here are some other names that we're gonna

508
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Speaker 1: throw at you that we think the Mets have been

509
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Speaker 1: connected to makes sense fit wise, we got what ten

510
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Speaker 1: more names here, Dennis Santana being one of them, just

511
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Speaker 1: another good reliever in Pittsburgh. They're gonna trade him. The

512
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Speaker 1: Mets need bullpen help. It feels like an obvious fit

513
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Speaker 1: if the price is right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the price being right's a big deal because

515
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Speaker 2: Dennis Santana is the classic like e er whip hero

516
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Speaker 2: right now, he's just not striking that many people out like.

517
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Speaker 2: That's kind of a fear for me. When Dennis Santanna

518
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Speaker 2: throws ninety five miles an hour and a fastball with

519
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Speaker 2: some just some run on with the color and the slyther,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, and we've seen them, that's the same we've

521
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Speaker 2: had him like, I'd like, if you threw ninety seven

522
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Speaker 2: not ninety five, I think that would make this different.

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Speaker 2: But while again he's gotten he's the command's been amazing

524
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Speaker 2: here for Danniasatanna. That's the thing that's taken in to

525
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Speaker 2: this next level. He's been really precise around the edges.

526
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Speaker 2: It's help, which is great because the Mets don't have

527
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Speaker 2: a lot of that don't have a lot of precision

528
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Speaker 2: in the bullpen, sure, but precision is the kind of

529
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Speaker 2: thing that be gone like that you get off killed there,

530
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Speaker 2: you hamsterring, you're growing your back. Something goes off a

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Speaker 2: little bit all of a sudden, all commands done. So

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Speaker 2: that's why I'm not I'm not in the market for

533
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Speaker 2: commanders relievers.

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Speaker 1: Brandon Lowe's name has been thrown around by Andy Martinez.

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Speaker 1: This one doesn't truly make much sense on this team

536
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Speaker 1: at all.

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Speaker 2: Actually, this one makes negative sense. This makes no sense.

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Speaker 2: This only makes sense like if you're doing a three

539
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Speaker 2: team trade, like you trade round your baby, So then

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Speaker 2: Brandon low becomes the left headed hitting second basement. Right

541
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Speaker 2: now we have three left handed hitting second basement, adding

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Speaker 2: a fourth to the mix. I can't even begin to

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Speaker 2: figure out why that makes sense.

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Speaker 4: Crats. If I'm new to card collecting and I'm looking

545
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Speaker 4: for the safest, most trusted way in the game to

546
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Speaker 4: acquire cards or to buy a card, but not go

547
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Speaker 4: through a ton of work where I'm going to the shows,

548
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Speaker 4: I'm going online doing auctions. I want it all in

549
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Speaker 4: one place. I'm going to arena club.

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Speaker 5: It's all one place. You know you're getting a good price,

551
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Speaker 5: whether you're buying it or you're selling cards. If you're

552
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Speaker 5: new to it, you don't want all the other crappy cards.

553
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Speaker 5: You can get the ones that you want, you can

554
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Speaker 5: start your collection, and if you get him on Arina Club,

555
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Speaker 5: your collection will look a Balsh.

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Speaker 4: That's right, and may I mention they also have Pokemon

557
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Speaker 4: cards and those slab packs that we talk about every week.

558
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Speaker 4: You can rip a pack for as low as twenty

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Speaker 4: five dollars and hit on a card that's worth tens

560
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Speaker 4: of thousands of dollars because every pack has grails that

561
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Speaker 4: are at least twenty x the price of the pack.

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Speaker 4: So get involved at arenaclub dot com slash val use

563
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Speaker 4: the code foul to get twenty percent off your first

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Speaker 4: slab pack or card purchase.

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Speaker 3: No, it doesn't make sense to me.

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Speaker 1: Cedric Mullens' name has cooled off, I think quite a

567
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Speaker 1: bit with Mets fans and just the Mets community in general.

568
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Speaker 3: But still, at the end of the day, if the Mets.

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Speaker 1: Want to go a cheaper centerfield option, maybe someone who's

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Speaker 1: not gonna cost as much. He's a left handed hitter,

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Speaker 1: he could put two nicely with Tyrone Taylor, or if

572
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Speaker 1: Jose Sirie ever decides to play baseball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think I was easier as taking anything.

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Speaker 2: I think he's definitely hurt, but I just don't know

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Speaker 2: if he is coming back. Mullins is good, Mullins might not.

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Speaker 2: You might get a value in Cedric Mullins right now

577
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Speaker 2: because of all the steam on Luis Robert, but like

578
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Speaker 2: while and I don't think Mallins had anywhere near the

579
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Speaker 2: ceiling that Robert does, which is funny. When they started

580
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Speaker 2: the season, Mallins is actually blazing hot. And Mallins has

581
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Speaker 2: had one peak season the past. But now we have

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Speaker 2: most of Cedric Mullins's career. We know he's a good

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Speaker 2: defender in centerfield, who's getting worse because he's turning thirty

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Speaker 2: years old, who can hit some home runs, who can run,

585
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Speaker 2: who could run a good bit, but it's just a

586
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Speaker 2: league average hit at the.

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Speaker 3: End of the day.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I've said this on the podcast,

589
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Speaker 1: but if I was a betting man, which I am,

590
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Speaker 1: and I was putting money on something, I think the

591
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Speaker 1: Mets are going to go get Harrison Bader.

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Speaker 3: I think he's coming back. I think he's going to

593
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Speaker 3: play center field.

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Speaker 1: Let's run it back one more time, bring the city

595
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Speaker 1: boy back to Queens.

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Speaker 3: He's playing really well.

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Speaker 1: The bat speeds up he's hitting the ball better than

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Speaker 1: he ever has in his career, and of course we

599
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Speaker 1: know he's an elite defensive center fielder. Those are all

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Speaker 1: things that David Stern's values. And if he's hitting better

601
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Speaker 1: than Tyrone Taylor, again I think any options better.

602
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Speaker 2: Yes, but we also went through a whole postseason run

603
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Speaker 2: where he didn't hit bet in Tyron Taylor, and Tyron

604
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Speaker 2: Taylor played every game. So again, like I would trace

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Speaker 2: Sarrison Bay that you have to give like nothing because

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Speaker 2: again we also I mean said, I know we have

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Speaker 2: Jose Sierra in this roster next year, but I think

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Speaker 2: these are extraneous conversations. But what's actually going on the

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Speaker 2: deadline now? I don't I don't know if the Mets

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Speaker 2: you get baited, because like it's hard, it's hard to

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Speaker 2: overlook that Jeff McNeil has been at least a league

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Speaker 2: age defender based on OA and not a league average offender,

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Speaker 2: but not a negative defender in center field. He's been

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Speaker 2: completely zero there a zero OAA guy. Which for Jeff

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Speaker 2: McNeil having eight hundred ops, like that's good, that's fine,

616
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Speaker 2: Like that's all good and well, it probably comes back

617
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Speaker 2: to by you in the ass if you have to

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Speaker 2: go through the playoffs with Jeff McNeil in centerfield, I'm

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Speaker 2: sure that definitely. I'm sure that we all remember not

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Speaker 2: the best defense hurting the mess playoff run one time.

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Speaker 2: So I think that we have to keep that in mind.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why keep bringing up twenty fifteen, but

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Speaker 2: here the top of mind, like this is relevant. Now

624
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Speaker 2: we go like we saw it happen. Once you have

625
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Speaker 2: like four negative, negative defenders on the field, it's it's

626
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Speaker 2: you know, it's hard to it's hard to grab that

627
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Speaker 2: World Series. But Bai helps in that. I just don't know.

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Speaker 2: They might just play Tyron Taylor, and if that's the case,

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Speaker 2: to me, it's possible.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Bater's made big changes to his swing.

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Speaker 1: That's the only thing I'll say that he is not

632
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Speaker 1: the same hitter, But we know the shot is probably

633
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Speaker 1: gonna tell him to slow down that swing a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Once he gets here. He's like, remember last year, that

635
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Speaker 3: was a great season, do that again. We have six

636
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Speaker 3: more names here that are gonna be chaos relievers maybe

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Speaker 3: a little bit.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Starting off with Kyle Finnigan. I know we've talked about

640
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Speaker 1: him before. He's kind of gotten nothing. But maybe just

641
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Speaker 1: because he's gotten saves, gotten outs at the end of

642
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Speaker 1: games before, you just feel better with him than like

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Speaker 1: you do Alex Correo late in the game.

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Speaker 2: Him him throwing him into a bullpen probably makes this

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Speaker 2: bullpen better. But I wouldn't be acquiring Kyle Finnigan thinking

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Speaker 2: I just got a new like high leverage late in

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Speaker 2: and guy, he's never pitching the postseason. He doesn't have

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Speaker 2: very good stuff. Like you bringing Kyle Finnigan to be

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Speaker 2: an improvement over the middle relief. I don't think that's

650
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Speaker 2: someone that is even better than gregor.

651
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 3: Better than Ryan Stannick. But yeah, he's like similar to

652
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 3: Ryan stan at spin comp What do you give me

653
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 3: another context.

654
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 2: There's a couple bunch of other relievers I like a lot.

655
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 2: I think the Marlins bullpen has a few interesting guys

656
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 2: right now. I don't know if they're going to trade

657
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 2: them because they have different levels of team control. But

658
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 2: Anthony Bender has had one of the best season of

659
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 2: any reliever in baseball this year. He's striking everybody, he's

660
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 2: not walking anybody. The slider's just outrageous from him. He's

661
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 2: someone that we've seen that one David Searns and Peter

662
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 2: Bendix have had lots of conversations in the past. We

663
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 2: know last year they made the watcut Brows trade. We

664
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 2: know the Mets were involved in the Hay Sussel As

665
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 2: are those sweepstakes this offseason, we know there aren't conversations

666
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 2: that happened there. So there's that's something that we know

667
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 2: we can talk about. Sam mccalvin Fauchet. He hasn't had

668
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 2: the best year, but if you take out all the

669
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 2: home runs that Pilonzo hit against him, he's e r

670
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,880
Speaker 2: Dross by like half a run. So I think that's

671
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,959
Speaker 2: something that seem they won't won't have to face Pilonzo

672
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 2: anymore if he's on the Mets. So I think that

673
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 2: those are two relievers that while they have some team control,

674
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 2: there's a chance that we can probably win them off.

675
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,679
Speaker 1: He's got Shelby Miller who's been pictured for the Diamondbacks

676
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,199
Speaker 1: this year and he's been fine.

677
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 2: He's he's been a victim of a victim of circumstance

678
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 2: where they're like, now you have to be the closers.

679
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 2: I don't want to be the closer. Like about the closer,

680
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 2: I'm not supposed to be the closer. Why I don't.

681
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 2: I don't want Justin Martinez and a J. Bucktaboles get

682
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 2: interest they with the closers. I was a good middle

683
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 2: of the interest.

684
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: That Dimebacks didnt want that either, because they were probably

685
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 1: hoping that, Okay, if those two guys get hurt, well,

686
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: maybe Kevin Gankle could be the closer because he was

687
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: like locked down for us in twenty twenty three when

688
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: they made that run in the playoffs.

689
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 3: But he's been horrible as well this year. But maybe

690
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 3: you take a chance terrible he's been dreadful.

691
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 2: That would be a kind of like you make that

692
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 2: move after you get another reliever like Kevin Gingles, the

693
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 2: third reliever you acquired the trade that like, not the

694
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 2: second one. We also just missed out on Sir Anthony

695
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 2: de Minguez, who got traded from the Oriols to the

696
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 2: Blue Jays as we were beginnings recording, so his name

697
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 2: got taken off this list, but that would have been.

698
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: I felt like the guy that the Blue Jays traded

699
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 1: is in that wed Iningur range jarn Wats Brown where

700
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: it's like a double a picture that's having some success

701
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: and you don't know how sticky it is, but he's

702
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:33,479
Speaker 1: putting up good enough numbers.

703
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 3: So Zach Thornton listen, I would have loved to have.

704
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 2: But you said Juwan Brown was a higher draft Weddinger

705
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 2: is younger, I believe, okay, because I think we Wender

706
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 2: was a three year college guy younger. I thought, I

707
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 2: thought like Brown was. I think Ben's twenty.

708
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 3: Oh they're the same age. Okay, yeah, I think they're

709
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 3: probably around.

710
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 2: Exactly Zach Thorne's in that range. Is you thinking that,

711
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 2: like we're thinking that this this range of relievers you

712
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 2: don't have to part with.

713
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: Brown was a third round pick in that draft. Weninger

714
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: was a sixth round pick in that draft. Do you

715
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 1: think the Mets more highly value Ener Santuccio because Wenger's

716
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: had more success at Double A but Santucci in the

717
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: smallest sample Double A has had not that much different

718
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: level of rate success just without the volume.

719
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 2: So far, I think they might.

720
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,479
Speaker 1: Weeninger has been so good, man, I think they might

721
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: value Weninger. He's got like the second highest k KATEA.

722
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,479
Speaker 1: Walkery Show, only behind jo Nahtanue and like double A.

723
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 2: So when Er does become a fun chip for some

724
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 2: of these starters, that we mentioned too, or even some

725
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 2: of those higher end guys like you could probably pair

726
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: Weninger with I don't want to do this necessarily, you

727
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 2: could probably pair Wenger with a jet or a bench

728
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 2: and get like a dude. Dude like that's the pairing

729
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 2: that gets you, Like theoretically, probably John Durant. I'm not

730
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,959
Speaker 2: sure if that's something I'd want to do. That probably

731
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 2: is what looks like, surely we can't be the only

732
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 2: people hipped to Jack Weddinger. That's like, that's kind of

733
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 2: how I think about it. Now, he's got like the

734
00:27:58,359 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 2: second most strikeouts in Double A, That's what.

735
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: So it's like I think he actually has some real

736
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: juice behind him. So maybe that he does help us

737
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 1: get somebody big. Maybe this is exactly what the Mets

738
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: want from a guy like him.

739
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 2: And this also is a big part about where this

740
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 2: Mets system has gone the last couple of years, because

741
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 2: now we're talking about prospects that are ranked outside of

742
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 2: our top fifteen that they're interesting. Were also digest trade

743
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 2: again Wellington our estenia to get gregor Risol, though our

744
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 2: extendya most place has had him as like about the

745
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 2: top fifteen prospect in the Mets system. A lot of

746
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 2: plays still have Weninger below that. But I think that

747
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 2: the what we Andrew has done this year, you know,

748
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 2: actually results wise, kind of says that he probably could

749
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 2: be viewed a little bit higher. Like it seems like

750
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 2: like well, will Will Watson is in this year too,

751
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 2: and of course Santo Chees and then last guy just

752
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 2: before we start wrapping this up and throwing you guys

753
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: some crazy names for the last ten that are bonus.

754
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 3: Jake Bird. He's just been good in Colorado.

755
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: If you're a reliever who has success out there, I

756
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: think you're probably gonna be all right elsewhere.

757
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely he has had success there, and the success

758
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 2: is something that comes from a guy that just throws

759
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 2: hard with some good break the ball, Like that's something

760
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 2: that will kind of play in. I think there's a

761
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 2: bunch of doesn't throw as hard as I thought. I

762
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 2: thought Jake Berd threw much harder. Jake BUR's only only

763
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: sitting ninety four, so I guess with oh, oh, it's

764
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 2: all sideent sinkers from Jake Bird. So then Jake Berr

765
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 2: kind of becomes like the righty ready Greg rissoo where

766
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 2: he seems like, I know he has that curve ball,

767
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 2: but like, how many lefties is Jake Berry able to

768
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 2: get out?

769
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 3: I don't know. But if we have Sodo, we have

770
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 3: Brooks Railay in this bullpen.

771
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: You just makes a match.

772
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: And you can you can play the matchups, which is

773
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: I think something that the Mets want to do. I

774
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: think they want to be able to play these matchups

775
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: smart like this down the stretch. Jake Bird, someone who

776
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily know if he will be traded even

777
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: I think they should cash in on him. But we'll

778
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: see what the Rockies do. They're always an enigma. All right,

779
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: let's just have some fun here. We have players twenty

780
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: six through thirty seven. We'll just go back and forth. James,

781
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: you go first. I'll stick with the Rockies. Seth Boy

782
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: fuck Jake Yeah, well, Jake Burry again. Jake Burr's fine.

783
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: I like getting new armslots in the bullpen.

784
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 2: But give me Seth Halverson, Like, give me the guy

785
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 2: who throws one hundred two miles in now, if you

786
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 2: can pry him away, if you can give up someone

787
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: who's on the outskirts of the top ten of us

788
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 2: to get someone who might be a five to six

789
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 2: year dominant lateening reliever, like I want Seth.

790
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: I love Seth Alberson, get it free, my man's free,

791
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: my man's I'm gonna go with asvald Obido. He's someone

792
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: who guy the same concept, like, get him out of

793
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: a minor league baseball stadium, get him in a place

794
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: where the ball doesn't travel like crazy. I'd love to

795
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: see him again with an organization that can develop pitching.

796
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 3: As Waldo. Bito just feels like a guy that's waiting

797
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 3: to be a met. Yeah.

798
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 2: I mean that's someone that maybe's met like in two

799
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 2: years when the name non tend to him for no reason.

800
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 2: I got two chaos center fielders. I think there's a

801
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 2: less than one percent chance either of these guys are moves.

802
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 2: But I know that these two teams we are open minded,

803
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 2: to say the least, heading into the deadline as Joe

804
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 2: Adell and his dal and Varshow. Varshow would be the

805
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 2: defense first center fielder with pop end speed from the

806
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 2: Blue Jays but no hit tool. Where at Dell he

807
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 2: kind of is figuring it out in center field. I

808
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 2: wouldn't call him good defender there, but he said the

809
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 2: piss out of the ball. He'd be like a true

810
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 2: you know, five six hit the right handed bat that

811
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 2: could transform the lineup that we've been searching for, that

812
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 2: could be passable in centerfield. Same ideas.

813
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: Now that we bade the Blue Jays fans, everybody else

814
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: that's listening and that's the Blue Jays fans have clicked off.

815
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 3: Now there's no shot there trained Altavar, So there's not a.

816
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 2: Shot in the world. That's just a little bit of trouble.

817
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: And real back in uh Ramoon Mariano, I think could

818
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: be a centerfielder for this team. Why not, He's played

819
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: centerfield in the past. I know he is not the

820
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: same defensive player that he once was, but he is

821
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: absolutely mashing and the one thing that hasn't gone away

822
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: he still has a fucking cannon of an arm.

823
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 2: The dude has a laser attached totally. So I do

824
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 2: wonder if that would do. I mean, we also know

825
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 2: the stats of Jesse Winker, like this could be like

826
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 2: the horrible, miserable, sad fully lost season from Jesse Winker

827
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: getting Loreano and then being able to dhe one. So

828
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 2: though during some of these late season playoff games, not

829
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 2: the worst option if you're trying to get maximize this

830
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 2: mess roster. Another guy. I wonder if he's available right now?

831
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 2: Cony Bellinger is Coney Balinger the rental available As the

832
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 2: Yankees keep losing games, is he available.

833
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 3: They keep losing?

834
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: And like if Aaron Judge is hurt for the year,

835
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: which I do not want, that's bad for baseball.

836
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 3: He's so incredible to watch like this Didjun.

837
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,719
Speaker 2: Here with injury expert Will Carroll said on foul Territory,

838
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 2: what do you say said that this injury seems much

839
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 2: worse than the Yankees are leaning on because we've heard

840
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 2: about Flexer's trains for pictures. Flextra train is bad for pictures.

841
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 3: It's bad for everybody.

842
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 2: It sounds like that's what I'm saying, So like that's

843
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: something that is a tendon that could be torn. That

844
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 2: was the thing that knocked out terror skoobl for that

845
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 2: full year. That's think hair.

846
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: I think three reasons why the Yankees won't trade Bellinger,

847
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: But boyle boy would I love to and I'd love

848
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: for him to come to the Mets. I wanted Bellinger

849
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: this offseason, especially because he was free. But one, they're

850
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: still in the playoffs and the Yankees still feel like

851
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: they have a playoff team.

852
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 3: They just went out and bought McMahon. I don't think

853
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 3: you trade Bellinger too.

854
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 2: Of course not.

855
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: Brian Kashman's gonna lose his job if the Yankees don't

856
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: make it to the World Series, so he's not going

857
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: to trade Bellinger to help the next guy.

858
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 2: Brian Cashman is never going to lose his job. Him

859
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 2: and hal Stein Brunner are like best friends. They've been

860
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 2: friends since they were like teenagers. Dude, he has to

861
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: lose his job at some point. Who's gonna fire him

862
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 2: his friend? I was listening to I was listening to

863
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 2: Bill Simmons earlier today. He was just having like a

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Speaker 2: Yankee hate session. Brian Cashman has outlasted multiple English monarchs.

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Speaker 2: He's outlested multiple popes as the Yankees had executive like

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Speaker 2: he's out less and multiple MLB missioners.

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Speaker 3: Maybe's not like change it up.

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Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, like you, I don't think you

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Speaker 2: realized how close House Time Burner Brian Cashman are literally

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Speaker 2: our best friends.

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Speaker 3: I don't think about it like that. I don't care

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Speaker 3: about that, but that's who would make the decision. I

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Speaker 3: think that I know.

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Speaker 1: It's funny to talk and then too. I mean they're

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Speaker 1: they're just not gonna trade. Other guys actually could be

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Speaker 1: on the move. Jacob Junas, Hunter Harvey, Stephen Wilson. Nothing's

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Speaker 1: exciting about these guys, but maybe they're on the move.

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Speaker 2: There's mother really exciting things about all of them. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Junis is a slyer, have to slide there another like

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Speaker 2: weird arm slot Riety. I could see the Mets going

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Speaker 2: for a weird arm slot riting because we do have

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Speaker 2: a lot of over the top of this bullpen right

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Speaker 2: now from the right side. Hunter Harvey has been exciting.

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Speaker 2: He's been dealing with some injuries. He just still throws hard.

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Speaker 2: Stephen Wilson also have the hard fast ball. It's a

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Speaker 2: good slide of that White Sox ballpen is just kind

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Speaker 2: of bad. But yeah, I'm sure they're dying to get

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Speaker 2: rid of somebody like Backer.

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Speaker 1: It could be the Maybe the wasatcar Brasel bond from

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Speaker 1: America this year, Like that feels like that could be

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Speaker 1: the pick.

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Speaker 2: That's possible.

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Speaker 1: Two final ones here. One Uncle Charlie, Charlie Morton. I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you what. I think he could be the fourth starter.

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Speaker 1: He's actually been pitching really well, and.

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Speaker 3: He was bad big games.

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Speaker 2: But Charlie Moore was really bad to start the year,

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Speaker 2: had a great run through the middle where he was

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Speaker 2: locating his fastball. Now his last three four starts complete

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Speaker 2: catastrophe again. But he's guaranteed. He's guaranteed getting traded, and

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Speaker 2: you don't think he'll cost that much. And Charlie Mooreon though,

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00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 2: I think more and so him be the fourth starter there.

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00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 2: I think he's someone that you could be like, hey, Charlie,

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Speaker 2: take the seventh inning, take the playoff seventh inning, because

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Speaker 2: if you're ninety three, can get back to ninety five

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Speaker 2: from that fastball, which and then balls and then you

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Speaker 2: drop the curve ball on it. And the biggest thing

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Speaker 2: for the mess about acquiring Charlie Morton is never having

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Speaker 2: to face Charlie Morton again, because the biggest fear is

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Speaker 2: having a big game usual face Charlie Morton right now,

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Speaker 2: because that just can't happen. But again, if that ninety

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Speaker 2: three to ninety four goes to ninety five, ninety six,

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Speaker 2: out the ball. But I think he can become functional,

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Speaker 2: says Alexis.

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Speaker 3: D STLL available. Is this year you bring the DZ

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Speaker 3: Boys together.

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Speaker 2: I mean I said bring the DZ boys together. I

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Speaker 2: think him in like the seven yard over the last

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Speaker 2: three seasons, is probably acquireable. I think he's in Triple

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Speaker 2: A pitching for the Dodgers right now.

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Speaker 3: Do you think they give him up? I'll give you

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Speaker 3: a what would you give him for him?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: I don't think we bring the DZ boys back.

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Speaker 2: No, of course, but that's a obligatory. Guy mentioned the

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Speaker 2: DZ Brothers one. We're talking to trade rumors because that's

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Speaker 2: been the weird a training trade room for the Mets

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Speaker 2: like five years running.

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Speaker 1: This is probably the last episode. No, we actually nope, lied,

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Speaker 1: it's not the last episode before the deadline. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: have one out Thursday morning because the series ends on Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Versus the Pirates Pirates padres brains, my brains so focused

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Speaker 1: on trade deadlines, and the Pirates are gonna be moving, guys,

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Speaker 1: this is a pretty It's gonna be a lackluster trade deadline.

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Speaker 1: I think that's just kind of how it is.

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Speaker 2: I think so too. I always do my big threads

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Speaker 2: all the time in baseball season. I started writing the

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Speaker 2: trade deadline around a few days ago. I was like,

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Speaker 2: this is not this is not interesting to really all.

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Speaker 2: I was like, this guy sucks.

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Speaker 3: I was talking so much.

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Speaker 2: About Edward Cobre was who actually wants to read by

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Speaker 2: Edward Cabrera. So I was like, I think this is

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Speaker 2: just going to be I think the only thing that

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Speaker 2: can make this trade deadline really exciting is again I

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Speaker 2: think the Mets are one of the one of the

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Speaker 2: big players, like a Viento's three team trade with major

948
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Speaker 2: League chess pieces moving to different teams, like similar to

949
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Speaker 2: the Edmund coopik mcgilvargus trade last year. That to me

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00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 2: is something that could be really interesting if there's a

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00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 2: shock John Durant Mason Miller trade. I think that's relatively

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Speaker 2: more likely because of the emanual Class I suspension now

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Speaker 2: or the administrative leave not suspension. And then similarly with

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Speaker 2: like Griffin Jacks, Ryan Hill's it like that second year

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Speaker 2: of really good believers, like those are those are guys,

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Speaker 2: But you guys just heard the list that was pretty exhaustive. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: not the most juice in the world.

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Speaker 1: No, And like all the cool guys like we don't like,

959
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Speaker 1: we're not going after a Janeo Suarez.

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Speaker 2: And not even close. And I don't even know, Hope.

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Speaker 2: I don't even that that market, that market is making

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Speaker 2: Mark Vinze's more tradeable because I think teams do want

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Speaker 2: a corner bat and Heno being so expensive, teams like

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Speaker 2: we just get Mark Vantos.

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Speaker 1: I wish the Rockies were competitive. We could have Mark

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Speaker 1: Vianto to be a Rocky and a heartbeat.

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Speaker 3: They'd love him.

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Speaker 2: They retires number in fifteen years.

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Speaker 3: Who's your number one guy? Final thoughts here, It actually might.

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Speaker 2: Be Edward Cabrera Merril Kelly. I don't think the Mets

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Speaker 2: are gonna be super invested in those two guys, but

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Speaker 2: those are guys that I think can actually start playoff

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Speaker 2: games and give us the length of dis rotation needs

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Speaker 2: to kind of save this bullpen before we get to

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Speaker 2: the postseason.

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Speaker 1: Unless you're new the podcast, I think you guys know,

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Speaker 1: I want Luis Robert and that's all I want this

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Speaker 1: trade deadline. He's it, He's the piece, and I hope

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Speaker 1: we get to see him put on the Orange and

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Speaker 1: Blue before this season ends. Guys, That's that's it for

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Speaker 1: this episode. That's it for this video. Thank you for watching.

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Speaker 1: I'm Draftnickmark with a C. Thank you guys for watching.

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Speaker 1: We'll catch you all on the next episode. Peace Outs,

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Speaker 1: Go Mets.