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Speaker 2: Did you ever maybe start with the mike and the

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Speaker 3: The stuff, but the drive and the attackle like Christians,

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Speaker 1: The pre defense that's the biggest thing for us, like

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Speaker 1: and winning the Philips's battle crazy. Positive momentum can't create

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Speaker 1: if we've ever done that. But that to me is

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Speaker 4: What jumps out to you about the Clans.

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Speaker 1: Special teams, much like their defense, are very aggressive and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, watching it over a couple operational things that we

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Speaker 2: Mike Smatt open about his use of analytics the things

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Speaker 3: I'm curious of all the numbers that you have on

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Speaker 4: He's a positive influencer.

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Speaker 1: That's the respect. I don't know. I don't know him

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Speaker 1: and like it is today. So sometimes I just throw

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Speaker 1: my script away and say, whatever I did, I spend

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Speaker 1: all that time for nothing. We're gonna do today, all right,

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Speaker 1: whatever now? But seriously, like, you just gotta be able

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Speaker 1: to adjust. Your guys got to understand that, uh, every

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Speaker 1: day is gonna be different out here with the wind

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Speaker 1: and how it goes, and our specials gotta be ready

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Speaker 1: for that, and our returners gotta be ready for that.

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Speaker 1: And we got to be able to prepare that way

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Speaker 1: and adjust that way. And Haber professionals, you know, we

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Speaker 1: get paid to do a job, so we gotta go

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Speaker 1: to the next.

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Speaker 2: Cup of Shelby Harris is a guy who blocked kicking.

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Speaker 1: Early in the season for Cleveland.

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Speaker 5: You got a play defensive line gets his hands.

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Speaker 2: On a lot of rolls. I guess obviously maybe length

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Speaker 2: is a faster but what what what is the.

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Speaker 1: Key for the guy like you know, coming off the ball, dog, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: coming off the ball, like with those guys inside on

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Speaker 1: the field goal block man, you come off the ball

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Speaker 1: and you're driving and you're using one hand and get up,

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Speaker 1: get to the block point. If you get good penetration

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Speaker 1: on those double teams. It's hard, man, it's hard for

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Speaker 1: those guards. Man. You're taking on seven hundred pounds right there.

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Speaker 1: You're taking it. Putt your foot in the ground as

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Speaker 1: fast as you can. It's hard. So guys that do

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Speaker 1: a good job jumping off the ball, driving their feet

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Speaker 1: and their hand up sometimes they get they get they

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Speaker 1: get the opportunity to block one because of that. So

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Speaker 1: it's all to me. It's all effort, and I have

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Speaker 1: to ask some technique stuff.

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Speaker 4: One more out of question just so we don't end

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Speaker 4: up leave with the question on the table. Yeah, you

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Speaker 4: getting more out of Ghilani in terms of units?

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Speaker 5: Yes, year.

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Speaker 1: Maybe John has done a great job right now. Man,

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Speaker 1: he's coming in. We're getting him in roles that where

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Speaker 1: he excels at. And I love Jelani. Man, I've always

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Speaker 1: loved Johns. I've been here. He's a good specialis player.

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Speaker 1: He's a good defender as well, and I hope you

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Speaker 1: and then help us out on special teams. And if

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Speaker 1: we do that, I'll be really happy because he does

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Speaker 1: a lot for me and he helps out a lot.

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Speaker 1: All Right, thanks guys having on