1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's watch party season and we're about to have 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 2: another one as the Mavericks and the Wolves, the Wolves 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 2: who last week we sat here and said, well, there 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: it is. 6 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: The Wolves win the NBA Championship. Pretty cool. 7 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: Didn't see that coming. And now apparently they're in a 8 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 2: must win game on the road, which actually is going 9 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: to lead to my very very first point tonight, Mark 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: Wility from Solomony, from good evening to you. 11 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: It is always good to talk to you, my man. 12 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: Good evening, my man. How are you okay? I'm great, 13 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: I'm great. 14 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 2: I thought we could start off with, like, what'll feel 15 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 2: like a fun little game. 16 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: Give me one thing that has happened to you today, 17 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: one thing that's happened to me. Yeah, give me one 18 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: thing that happened to you today. What happened to me? 19 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: Uh I or just something that happened It doesn't even 20 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: like to you like you know what I mean, something 21 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: happened today I woke up. 22 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know if that's gonna be. 23 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: It to the point I'm trying to make, but because 24 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: what I was gonna say is well that there it is. 25 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 2: That means you're gonna wake up every day for the 26 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: rest of your life. 27 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: But I actually think that that's true. 28 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 2: Give me something that happened today that doesn't happen every day. 29 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 3: Okay, somebody darted out in front of the car. I'm 30 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 3: all the way to work, and okay to swerve and 31 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 3: not hit someone who wasn't paying attention. 32 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: Uh, there it is. 33 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: Every single driver on the face of the earth is 34 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: an awful driver. Everybody's terrible. Nobody can drive. That is 35 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: going to be way too dangerous. You should never be 36 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 2: on the roads again. That's what you sound like if 37 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: you do the whole Luka, Doncic and Kyrie Irving are 38 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: the best backcourt of all time? What are we doing 39 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 2: and why do we keep doing it? I'm not even 40 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: saying we're exempt you and I started last week's show 41 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,679 Speaker 2: by saying, I refuse to predict who's gonna win Game 42 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: seven between the Wolves and the Nuggets because I had 43 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 2: been given already no less than three narratives in that 44 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 2: series calling it over in either direction. 45 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: And this is where we've. 46 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,679 Speaker 2: Arrived, and I'm kind of annoyed by it at this point. 47 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 2: Maybe it's just late in the NBA season, but every 48 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 2: time we see something, we decide, well, there it is. 49 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: That's what we're doing now. 50 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards a week ago was the next face of 51 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: the NBA. This week, Luca and Kyrie are the best 52 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: guard tandem we've ever seen in the history of the world. 53 00:02:55,360 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 2: Do we really think that, like, go into the belly, 54 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 2: that's what we think because they've had two good games 55 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: and by the way, barely one barely won both games. 56 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, we gotta think harder. It just 57 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 2: feels lazy to me. 58 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 3: Well, it's it's what we're creatures of the moment, because 59 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 3: our moment is galvanized by responses and just instant takes 60 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 3: on everything. So everybody wants to be first because what 61 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 3: does it do. It gets everyone doing exactly what we're 62 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 3: doing right now, and that is talking about it. 63 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 64 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 3: So what better way than to get people riled up 65 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 3: and talking about something you say than to say things 66 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 3: like he's the next this are, they're the best, this 67 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 3: are He's entered in the goat conversation. Are she's going 68 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 3: to do this? We're seeing it with you know, not 69 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 3: only what's going on in the NBA, but in the 70 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 3: WNBA as well. So being creatures of the moment in 71 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 3: an instant gratification society, is why we have those type 72 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 3: of statements. Everybody wants to make a hot take. 73 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: Well fair, However, I find a little bit of a 74 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: subtle difference in the two types of statements that you 75 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 2: just brought up. If we're talking about predictive statements, that's 76 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 2: part of talking about sports. That's what sports fans do, 77 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 2: whether they want to gamble on it or just be 78 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 2: right and tell their friends, right, Caitlin Clark's going to 79 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 2: be the next big thing, Aunt Edwards next big thing. 80 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: This one, to me felt like we were looking backward. 81 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 2: We took we took a couple of games, the Mavericks 82 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 2: were the under dog. They went out, these two guys 83 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: who duh, are really good, had nice games on the road, 84 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 2: and the Mavericks win a couple close games, and we 85 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: immediately launch into this is the best backcourt of all time. 86 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 2: I don't understand that, Like, that's not a predictive statement. 87 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 2: You're saying that that's already true, which and I could 88 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: poke so many holes in it. The easiest one is, boy, 89 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 2: I grew up in a world where the NBA fandom 90 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 2: leans too far in the direction of making things all 91 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: about championships. Michael Jordan six ver six, that's the best 92 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: thing ever. And you are less than even if you 93 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: played in his era, Charles Barkley and Patrick Ewing and 94 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: Reggie Miller, even if you played in that era, you're 95 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: considered less than or incomplete because you quote didn't win 96 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: a chip. And now here's these two guys. I understand 97 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 2: that Kyrie did this like a decade ago playing with 98 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 2: Lebron For God's sakes, he wasn't even the best player 99 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: on the team. But we're gonna now call a tandem 100 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 2: that has just arrived, not even one arrived at the 101 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 2: conference finals together for the first time. They've only been 102 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 2: together for a year plus, and now that the best ever. 103 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: I mean, that's just it's a ridiculous statement. It's ridiculous, 104 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: and it is because. 105 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 3: I mean, not making the playoffs together last year, having 106 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 3: some success this year. 107 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: Now. 108 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 3: Look, granted, they probably have the most talent individual talent 109 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 3: in the back court than we've seen in quite some time. 110 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 3: As very few teams who've had the opportunity or the 111 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 3: ability to be like here, now you go, I'm tired 112 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 3: or I'll wait, let me know when it's time for 113 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 3: me to assert myself. And they're open. They're open about 114 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 3: the communication that they have with each other in terms 115 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 3: of that right. Kyrie's like, look, man, just let me 116 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 3: know when you want me, and then Luca is like, hey, 117 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 3: you know I didn't have it early. 118 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: Kyrie let us and then I came in the second. 119 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 3: So they understand their dynamic, and I think that's what 120 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 3: makes them ultimately good because you've always wondered, like how 121 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 3: many There's not a lot of basketballs to go around, 122 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 3: and very few dynamic backcourts like this can can put away. 123 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 3: Their ego is the thing that tends to uh submarine talent, 124 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 3: especially people who have the ball in their hands for 125 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 3: a significant amount of time. Just look at a team 126 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 3: in Phoenix. Doesn't seemed to be working there, didn't work 127 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 3: with James Harden and Chris Paul uh. So you know, 128 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 3: it's a reason why they're having the success they're having 129 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 3: because their approach, their approach, their approach to this season 130 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 3: is being eaglests and just killing when it's time. No 131 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,679 Speaker 3: one is like clamoring for the ball when Kyrie's bringing 132 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 3: it up, Luca understands, Okay, it's he's gonna make it 133 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 3: happen and then vice versa. And that's maturity and growth 134 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 3: on Kyrie's part. Remember, remember he wanted he wanted his 135 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 3: own team, He wanted to leave Lebron because he wanted 136 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 3: to do it and went to the Celtics and they 137 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 3: had to get him out of there real fast. And 138 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 3: so this is, you know, shout out to Kyrie his 139 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 3: growth and maturity in terms of how he approach the 140 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 3: game of basketball, not just being having more talent than 141 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 3: anybody else, but it's just his mental approach. 142 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: I'll buy that. 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The way tire buying should be. 150 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, the argument that broke out on Inside 151 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 2: the NBA this week is largely because Draymond Green's on 152 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 2: the set and because Stephan Clay have been called the 153 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 2: best shooting backcourt of all time. Here comes this argument, 154 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 2: and I actually do, despite my fandom, I see the difference. 155 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 2: Like what you just said is interesting because Kyrie and 156 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: Luca can both, at least in spurts play the role 157 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 2: of an NBA one. Clay's not really like that. Sure 158 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 2: he has knights like that, but you get what I'm saying. 159 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: It's very hard, over lengthy periods to just put the 160 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: ball in his hand and say, okay, go go and 161 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 2: have a whole offense run around him. That's not really 162 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 2: that's not really who he is. But that can be 163 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 2: at least one example. I think there are plenty of 164 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 2: too many backcourts who have accomplished way too much to 165 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 2: get this excited right now about these two. They're having 166 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 2: a really nice run. My argument is you only get 167 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 2: the opinion that they're the best backcourt of all time 168 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 2: if you felt that way ten days ago. You can't 169 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 2: just come up with it because you liked these last 170 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 2: two games. 171 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, you. 172 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 3: Know, first of all, we have to have time. We 173 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 3: have to see how this thing shakes out. They're going 174 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 3: a heck of a run here and win the championship 175 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 3: and then come back and completely dismantle people like they've 176 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 3: been doing this playoff run. Then now we start to 177 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 3: man these two can rival so and so right, But 178 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 3: until then we have to just enjoy what we're seeing. 179 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: Because it's very rare. 180 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 3: That we get two ball dominant players with this amount 181 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 3: of skill playing at a high clip on the same team. 182 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 3: So I'm enjoying it, I really am. And They're both 183 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 3: are tremendous shot creators, not just makers, but creators. There's 184 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 3: nobody in the league that can finish with either hand 185 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 3: better than Kyrie. It's just it's unbelievable. Yep, his control, 186 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 3: his balance, but in a mature, grown person package, which 187 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 3: makes all the difference. 188 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 2: Game three between these two teams is underway. We need 189 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 2: to break down a little bit of what has happened 190 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 2: since you and I last spoke. We sat here together 191 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 2: seven days ago, and the Timberwolves put together a shot 192 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 2: can come back and took out the champs on their 193 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 2: own floor in Game seven. Excitement for that team and 194 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 2: what they could accomplish was high. It's been a pretty 195 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 2: crappy week for them since then. Let's get into that 196 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 2: coming up next. Glad You're with us tonight with e 197 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 2: from Salama Mark Willard on Fox Sports Radio. 198 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 199 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 4: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports radio 200 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 4: dot Com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 201 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 4: listen live. 202 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 5: Pali Fusco here with Tony Fusco. 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The game is underway, 219 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 2: you know, ball. I want your reaction to some of 220 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 2: the things that have taken place this week. But before 221 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 2: we get to that, I got to find out a 222 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 2: little bit more about how you're feeling today, and I'm 223 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 2: glad you're bumping. 224 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: To the music. 225 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 2: But a little birdie told me that maybe maybe we're 226 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 2: expecting a little something else with some of our musical 227 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 2: interludes tonight. 228 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 3: Oh no, we won't, we won't. It'll be per usual. 229 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 3: Oh oh, it better be per usual. Who slammed the 230 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 3: brakes on that? 231 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: All right? Who? 232 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 3: I was listening to the show Brian No and Jeff 233 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 3: Schwartz before, and you know, Brian and I have been 234 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 3: you know, pardon of course, and he's just heavy metal 235 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 3: Mega Death Metallica, Like, oh and so that's his that's 236 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 3: you know, how they come back from from break and 237 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 3: I listening about moch pits. So I just came in 238 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 3: and said, hey, we will we'll be doing no Mega 239 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 3: Death today. 240 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: Got it and got it? Got it? 241 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I might have gotten lost in translations. 242 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: It was lost in translation. I thought, I'm looking at 243 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: you guys. 244 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 2: I thought that that's what that's all we were gonna 245 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 2: get tonight. 246 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: And I was like. 247 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 6: Keeping it real cool, because you know, I kind of 248 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 6: wanted to ease into it. 249 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: How you're feeling, you know, music murder. 250 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: He's like, who stepped on your Jordan's today. I'm like, what, 251 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 2: what what happened? 252 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 3: I'm a fan of music. It's all about how you feel. 253 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 3: And you know the time, right? Is it a mega 254 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 3: death or Heart and metal. 255 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 6: Mega death time? I mean we just have Brian on 256 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 6: so yeah is it? I mean the lights are off 257 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 6: in my studio. 258 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: That's the perfect time. Yeah, perfect time. 259 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 3: I got my tremendous tee latte here. None of that 260 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 3: screams metal. 261 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: I just you know, no, it screams meditation. Actually, I'd 262 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: like to get into the zone when I'm on the 263 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: ED and you're like. 264 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 2: A yoga class right now, you got like a little 265 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: mat that you carry around under your shoulder when you 266 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 2: come in. 267 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: Do you have shoes on right now? I do have 268 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: shoes on? Are you sure? 269 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 3: Sometimes I do take the sometimes carpet in my toes. 270 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: No, okay, all right, all right, good? Can we talk 271 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: about this series? Please? 272 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 5: Do? 273 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: What what happened? 274 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 3: What I've noticed is, and I knew everybody, everybody is ready, 275 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 3: especially the last two series that Anthony Edwards had and 276 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 3: how he was going at Katie his neck, and then 277 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 3: how he asserted himself even though he didn't have a great. 278 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: Game seven. 279 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 3: First half against the defending champion Denver Nuggets. I've just 280 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 3: been watching him and I can tell you this, He's 281 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 3: not him yet. He talks a great game, and he's 282 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 3: beyond talented. I mean, his physical abilities are unbelievable. 283 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: But to be him. 284 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 3: You almost have to be psychopathic. And there are too 285 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 3: many times in games, and especially in this series, where 286 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 3: he may go three four times down the court and 287 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 3: not ever touch the ball, and when he does, he 288 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 3: reserves himself to shoot a three pointerer are like, he 289 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 3: doesn't have a spot. All the great players have a spot. 290 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 3: If and you hear it, if they get to their spot, 291 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 3: there's nothing you can do correct. He doesn't have one 292 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 3: of those. And because he's searching for it. I mean, 293 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 3: the kid's only twenty two years old, so I get it. 294 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 3: But we're trying to accelerate him into something that I 295 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 3: don't believe he's ready for, and that is being the 296 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 3: face of the NBA, being that guy. There were plenty 297 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 3: of times in both of these games where we were 298 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 3: waiting his team included, we're waiting for him to assert 299 00:17:55,720 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 3: himself on the game and take it over. It didn't happen. Now, 300 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 3: he came out and Game one, he said, I want Kyrie. 301 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 3: Well you got it, and he could barely stand in 302 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 3: the fourth quarter he was so tired. Taking mind, this 303 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 3: kid is twenty two years old. If you're tired, nobody 304 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 3: else has a shot. If you're worn out at twenty 305 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:33,719 Speaker 3: two years old, then oh boy, you saw it physically 306 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 3: visibly bent over, hands on the knees, breathing, get the ball, 307 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 3: get off of it really fast, not really being assertive 308 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 3: like someone who's him would do. And so I've just 309 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 3: been watching and I've been waiting to talk about this because, look, 310 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 3: I think he has all the abilities and the components 311 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 3: to become that player. He just needs more seasoning and 312 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 3: a little bit more mental toughness, a mentally tough approach 313 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 3: to the game. It's easy to talk and tell and 314 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 3: you know, patch yourself on the back, but when your 315 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 3: team is looking for you to take the game over, 316 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 3: which is required to be that guy correct, correct, then 317 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 3: you have to do that. And it's not And because 318 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 3: he doesn't have this spot to get to where if 319 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 3: his three isn't falling, or if he's not getting the 320 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 3: calls at the rim, he can get there and he 321 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 3: can get off a couple shots in a row right 322 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 3: for KD. For some of the greats, it's the free 323 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 3: throw line that extended from Jordan, it was the high post. 324 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 3: For Kobe Bryant, it was you know, free throw line 325 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 3: extended and the high They knew exactly where to get 326 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 3: to to get themselves going when it wasn't going their 327 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 3: way offensively. And he doesn't have that. So you find 328 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 3: him breaking down the defender at the three point line, 329 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,719 Speaker 3: getting to mid key, jumping in the air and canning 330 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 3: balling the ball out to the three point line. That 331 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 3: is not it. That's not it. And I think until 332 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 3: he develops that instinct of I'm rocking my defender, rocking him, 333 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 3: got him foot turn, get to my spot, pull up, 334 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 3: score the bucket, get back on the until he can 335 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 3: get there consistently, I don't think he can carry the 336 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 3: burden of being that guy. 337 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,719 Speaker 1: Well, you said it. He's twenty two, so this doesn't 338 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:53,959 Speaker 1: have to be his moment. 339 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 3: No, But a lot of people are saying, I'm just 340 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 3: responding to what people are saying. 341 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 2: Well, and goes right back to what we were talking 342 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 2: about off the top of the show. There's a phrase 343 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 2: that has left sports media. If you say it, you 344 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 2: get fired. The phrase is we'll see. Nobody wants to 345 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 2: hear that. Nobody wants to hear it, even though it's 346 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 2: applicable for almost I don't know ninety nine percent of life, honestly, 347 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 2: I mean you know this, especially as a parent. All right, 348 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 2: well we're gonna be there at five o'clock today. 349 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: Well we'll see. 350 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 2: I mean a thousand different things could get in your 351 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 2: way and could unfold in front of you, and so 352 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 2: nobody wants to do that. 353 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 1: We'll see. 354 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 2: We didn't want to do it last series, and in fact, 355 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 2: we crowned Aunt the Guy because they won that series 356 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 2: even though his great play was largely in games one 357 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 2: through four. His great play was games one through four, 358 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 2: and they won two of them, and they lost two 359 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 2: of those and absolutely nothing had been decided whatsoever. 360 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: And you're right that comeback. 361 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 2: He had a couple nice moments in the fourth quarter 362 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 2: of Game seven against Denver. However, he also went six 363 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 2: for twenty four in that game, two for ten from 364 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 2: three point range, scored sixteen points. So you get it, 365 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 2: you get it. We want this, we want the next person. 366 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 2: It's time. The two people who have run the last 367 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 2: decade are both they've both had their thirty fifth birthday, 368 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 2: So it's time to find that guy. And that guy's 369 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 2: got to be someone we want. We want that person 370 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 2: to be that guy. We don't want Nicola jokicch to 371 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 2: be that guy. We don't want that. That's like, that's 372 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 2: not what it looks like. That's not what Michael and 373 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 2: Kobe and Lebron look like. I don't want anything to 374 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 2: do with that. So that's like, I think what you're 375 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 2: talking about comes from our desire rather than what we're 376 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 2: actually seen. 377 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, like when you look at Game one of 378 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 3: this series, Anthony Edwards was six for sixteen, five from 379 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 3: twelve from three point range. With someone with his ability, 380 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 3: his explosiveness, his ability to get to the rim, you 381 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 3: mean to tell me he took only four shots, four 382 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 3: shots inside the three point line, yep, and made one 383 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 3: of them. 384 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 1: That's crazy. 385 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 3: So when I'm talking about getting to his spot and 386 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 3: being ready to fire, it's like, right around this time 387 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 3: every week, every show, we have a guy lined up 388 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 3: at his spot ready to fire, and that's one Stephen 389 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 3: f de Sacre. 390 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 7: Guys, you might know the name Derek Lively. He's had 391 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 7: a good rookie year and off the bench for Dallas. 392 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 7: He has yet to miss a shot in this series. 393 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 7: Regular season, he was seventy five percent from the floor 394 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 7: three for three so far. In tonight's game, He's thirteen 395 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 7: for thirteen in the series. Dallas is leading at home 396 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 7: against Minnesota late first quarter, twenty nine to twenty three. 397 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 7: Dallas won the first two games of the series on 398 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 7: the road. Game four will be in Dallas on Tuesday night. 399 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 7: By the way, center Daniel Gafford of the Mavericks does 400 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 7: have two early turnovers and two fouls in the first quarter. 401 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 7: Jade McDaniels seven points for Minnesota on three of three shooting, 402 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 7: seven points for Anthony Edwards. Right now, it is a 403 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 7: lead for the home team, Dallas twenty nine twenty three, 404 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 7: about a minute to go in the third. The Celtics 405 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 7: lead the East Final three games to none, with Game 406 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 7: four at Indiana on Monday night. In the NHL, the 407 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 7: one seed New York Rangers lead the East Final two 408 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 7: games to one after an overtime win at Florida five 409 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 7: to four. New York had led four to two starting 410 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 7: the third period. Game four of the series is Tuesday 411 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 7: at Florida. NASCAR's Coca Cola six hundred is going on 412 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 7: right now on Fox TV. They're approaching the halfway point. 413 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 7: William Byron in the lead bubble. Wallace is running second, 414 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 7: Christopher Bell is third. Joseph Neugarden won the Indy five 415 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 7: hundred after a four hour rain delay at the start. 416 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 7: He won last year's race, also the first repeat winner 417 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 7: in over twenty years for team owner Roger Penske. His 418 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 7: twentieth victory at the Brickyard rain delay at the start 419 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 7: and likely a long one at Saint Louis Cardinals, who 420 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 7: won four in a row. They're due to host the 421 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 7: Cubs tonight. Cleveland won its ninth straight game, beating the 422 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 7: Angels in Anaheim again five to four. Closer Emmanuel Class 423 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 7: with his seventeenth save as Era is zero point three 424 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 7: to three run Al Blanco back on the mound for Houston. 425 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 8: He's five and oh. 426 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 7: After getting the win at Oakland five to two, Padres 427 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 7: finally beat the Yankees five to two. Yanks had won 428 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 7: eleven of their last thirteen games. Colorado over Philadelphia five two, 429 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 7: beating Ranger Suarez, who had been nine to oh this year. 430 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 7: Miami won at Arizona three to one, Detroit fourteen eleven 431 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 7: over Toronto today and the Dodgers have lost five in 432 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 7: a row. Lost at Cincinnati amidst the rain delays four 433 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 7: to one reds the final. Davis Riley by five strokes 434 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 7: won the golf event at Colonial. Scottie Scheffler tied for 435 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 7: second place. Colin Morikawa was six shots back. The next 436 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 7: live golf event is in two weeks in Houston. Unfortunately, 437 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 7: the story in the golf world this weekend the death 438 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 7: yesterday morning of golfer Grayson Murray by suicide. According to 439 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 7: his parents, he was thirty years old. Friday, Murray withdrew 440 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 7: from the event in Fort Worth. Illness was cited. He 441 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 7: had opened this season with a victory in Hawaii in 442 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 7: a playoff, getting him into the top fifty in the 443 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 7: world ranking. In his master's debut this year, he made 444 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 7: the cut. Murray tied for forty third place at the 445 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 7: PGA Championship just last week. He would have been in 446 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 7: next month's US Open. Murray had spoken about mental health 447 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 7: in the past. He'd also said he had stopped drinking 448 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 7: last year. Murray grew up in North Carolina, earned the 449 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 7: Arnold Palmer Scholarship at Wake Forest, his first of three colleges. 450 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 7: As we mentioned on last night's show, it's twenty twenty four. 451 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 7: There is always someone out there to talk to. There's 452 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 7: the nine eight eight Suicide and Crisis Lifeline nine eight eight. 453 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 7: There's also in the new National Suicide Prevention Lifeline, which 454 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 7: is one eight hundred two seven three Talk one eight 455 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 7: hundred two seven three. 456 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: Talk to you, man. 457 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 3: That's a sad story. Gosh darn it, right, thirty years 458 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 3: old man? 459 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 2: Who it is just it is the most emotional twisting 460 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 2: thing that that that we deal with, because. 461 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 1: It's very very rare that you. 462 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 2: Fully see it coming, even though you sort of you 463 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like I have no idea what's 464 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 2: going on here, but I would venture to guess, especially 465 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 2: with the way his family has come out so quickly 466 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 2: to kind of talk about this. 467 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: I bet it shocked them. But I bet right. I 468 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: bet they went, oh, gosh, he you know, because. 469 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 2: The stats will tell you this was not his first try, 470 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 2: and you know, I don't even know much that much 471 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 2: about the player, and I remember the win at the 472 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 2: beginning of the year, but this thing in twenty twenty four, 473 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 2: as Steve just said, I feel like it's it's probably 474 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 2: touched all our lives one way or another, in a 475 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 2: certain way, shape or form. Gosh, at least with the 476 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 2: thought of it the subject matter within the last five years, 477 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 2: I don't think there's any way you could escape it. 478 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: And it's just brutal. It's just brutal, man, Yeah, it is. 479 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 3: And you know, whoever out they're listening, they're going through something. 480 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 3: Just know you're not alone. You're not alone. Steve gave 481 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 3: out the number. What's the number against Steve? Do you 482 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 3: have that number again form of anybody out there who 483 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 3: just needs someone to talk. 484 00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: To, Go ahead, say it against even right, So it's right. 485 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: So just reach out. 486 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 3: No, you're not alone, and it will get better. 487 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 2: Not to belabor what's what's such a difficult thing to 488 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 2: talk about. Those who I know who have dealt with 489 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 2: the mental health crisis, many get to a point where 490 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 2: they feel those around me would be better off without me, 491 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 2: and I just that's so whenever this comes up, this 492 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 2: is what I want to say. 493 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: That's not true. It's just not true. It is not true. 494 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 2: So that is the delusion and the illusion that that 495 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 2: I wish, I wish people struggling would believe. It's flat 496 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 2: out not trill So anyway, May Grayson Murray rest in peace. 497 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 2: We're live in the Tirack dot Com studios. Obviously, no 498 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 2: way to transition out of that back to basketball, but. 499 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: That's what we do. 500 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 2: Did I also see and Steve, maybe you've got a 501 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 2: further update on this. 502 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: Did I see Mike Conley head to the locker room? Yeah? 503 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: In this basketball game. 504 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 2: I I caught it out of the corner of my eye. 505 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 2: I did not see why he's now being he's being 506 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 2: interviewed on the uh on the on the court has 507 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 2: come back out, But I don't know what the details 508 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 2: are of that and if that has an effect on 509 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 2: h on what's going on in in this game and 510 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 2: in this series. 511 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: That's gonna be a tough one to overcome. Oh, it 512 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: definitely will be. 513 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 3: And I mean, coming down to stretching that game, uh 514 00:30:55,440 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 3: two days ago, he was the one who was you know, 515 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 3: the offense was going through. So he took on that 516 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 3: role of asserting himself and you know, putting up the 517 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 3: shots and keeping them in it and things like that. 518 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 3: So you can't And Mike Connley is a consummate pro, 519 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 3: been the league a long time, He's been playing basketball 520 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 3: at a higher level for a long time, and so 521 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 3: you gotta just understand what it takes to be that guy. 522 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 3: It's easy to be that guy after a couple of 523 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 3: good games in the press conference, everybody gets the sound 524 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 3: bites and all of that. But consistently, you have to 525 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 3: show up every game, especially in the playoffs, because being 526 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 3: consistent is the name of the game. That's how you 527 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 3: become great. Your athletic ability doesn't make you great. You're hot, 528 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 3: shooting one or two games doesn't make you great. It's 529 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 3: I'm going to put this team on my back and 530 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 3: do what I can to get us to the next level. Now, granted, 531 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 3: excellent play, he's gotten his team, help get his team 532 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 3: to the Western Conference finals, but they're in jeopardy of 533 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 3: being swept and they're looking to him for answers. So 534 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 3: he has to answer, that's what you know. That's just 535 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 3: the bottom line. And maybe this is a learning and 536 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 3: a teaching moment for him. Maybe, no matter what happens, 537 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 3: he takes this this offseason. I'm sure he's on the 538 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 3: Olympic team and he gets to go out there and 539 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 3: to play with the Lebrons and all in the ads 540 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 3: and all of those guys and and learn what it 541 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 3: means to be that guy. 542 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: Similar to. 543 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 3: You know, when the Dream Team, and similar to when 544 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 3: Kobe came to the Redeemed Team and Lebron and Mellow 545 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 3: and all those guys really learned what it meant to 546 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 3: be him. Right the work ethic is, you know, taking 547 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 3: it serious. I think for our generation, that team, those guys, 548 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 3: as great as they were, they learned another. They learn 549 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 3: how to get to another level of competing and excellent 550 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 3: being there with Kobe and training and watching him train 551 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 3: and the guy speak openly about it. Had a tremendous 552 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 3: documentary called The Redeemed Team. It was amazing, but you 553 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 3: got it. I mean, these are the best players in 554 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 3: the world and for them to be like, man, this 555 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 3: dude is different, this dude is different, and let us 556 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 3: get some of that. So I think Anthony Edwards is 557 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 3: in one of those prime positions to where him being 558 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 3: around that energy, that wisdom, that work ethic can only 559 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 3: bolde greatness for him moving forward in his young career. 560 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 2: Well again, I know you're not supposed to say this 561 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 2: in sports radio, but we'll see the Mavericks are up 562 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 2: five early second quarter. We will obviously keep you up 563 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 2: to date. I did see something a moment ago that 564 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 2: tells me that Mike Conley may appear again in this game. 565 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 2: We can talk that out a little bit. Coming up 566 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 2: next with me from Salam. I'm Mark Willard, Fox Sports Radio. 567 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 568 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 4: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 569 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 4: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen. 570 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: Live tyrag dot com studios. 571 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 2: My Gosh, Prophetic from Salam Prophetic. I'll get to the 572 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 2: Mike Conley thing in a second. I don't know if 573 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 2: it's the physical commitment that Minnesota made to come back 574 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,280 Speaker 2: in Game seven. Their defense was amazing, let's not forget. 575 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's that physical commitment or if 576 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 2: they're just unwilling. If they're unwilling here at this hour, 577 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 2: by they're gonna lose this series because they settle. They 578 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 2: have become a team of settlers. Karl Anthony Towns, I 579 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 2: would argue that has been the issue with him going 580 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 2: from star to superstar all along is he loves sit 581 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 2: out there and shoot that shot. I see one member 582 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 2: of the Minnesota Timberwolves that has decided here in these playoffs. 583 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: You know what I'm not. 584 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 2: I can shoot this three, but I'm not going to 585 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 2: just do it every time. 586 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:37,479 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make the. 587 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 2: Physical commitment to go push and penetrate and change the 588 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 2: way the defenses is playing us and get easy buckets 589 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 2: when they're there. His name is nas Reed. He's the 590 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 2: only one. 591 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards is out here. 592 00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 2: Every single time that he has that option, he's settling 593 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 2: and he's missing eighty percent of them. And I'm just like, 594 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 2: you don't you don't want this. Apparently you either don't 595 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 2: want this or you don't have anything left after last Sunday, 596 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:15,959 Speaker 2: I can't tell which. 597 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 3: Just for an update, Lively was going up for a rebound, 598 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:24,280 Speaker 3: came down and you got a need in the head 599 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 3: in the back of the head by cat and he 600 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 3: is down. It looks very concussion concussion inducing. 601 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: Well you're not speculating, but no, no, but it's one 602 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 1: of those. It's one of those interesting things sport by sport. 603 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 2: If this were the NFL, that's it. 604 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're out all the game unless your name's to it, 605 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:53,439 Speaker 1: then you can come down too soon. Sorry, I like sorry, brother, 606 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 1: that was b that. 607 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 3: It'll always best killed that kid man. 608 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 2: Seriously, yeah, if this were the NFL, I mean blue 609 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,839 Speaker 2: ten and into the locker room, probably out for the game. 610 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well I hope he's all right, all right, 611 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: but go ahead, go ahead. 612 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 3: The Dallas's big men are out playing the two superstars 613 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,720 Speaker 3: uh and Karl Anthony Towns and the four time Defensive 614 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 3: Player of the Year, Rudy Gobert. Now Rudy is and 615 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 3: look he's from France, so you know he he doesn't 616 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:44,320 Speaker 3: play like I would want my big man to play. 617 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 3: He doesn't play with edge. And I need my big man, 618 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 3: my defensive player of the Year, to play with edge. 619 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 3: I need him to patrol and guard the paint like 620 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 3: it was his house. And offensively at seven to two, 621 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 3: I need him to be more aggressive. How many times 622 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:24,359 Speaker 3: have you seen Rudy Gobert do a one dribble drop 623 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:30,479 Speaker 3: step dunk in a basketball game. I don't recall any. 624 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:36,720 Speaker 3: And so no one's intimidated by him. And so once 625 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:43,280 Speaker 3: you lose that intimidation, then the paint becomes wide open. Yeah, 626 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 3: the guards will penetrate, They will get you to commit 627 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 3: and lob the ball up over your head and you 628 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 3: get dunk down into the rim. Every single time and 629 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 3: it's just it's too much. 630 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 1: It's too much. 631 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 3: I'm very dissatisfied with Karl Anthony Towns and Rudy Gobert 632 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,400 Speaker 3: in terms of what they are bringing to the Minnesota 633 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 3: Timberwolves this playoff series. They're being thoroughly outplayed by league standard, 634 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 3: lesser talent, younger players, hungrier players. And it's evident. How 635 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,720 Speaker 3: do you have two seven footers in the starting lineup 636 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 3: and the other team has fifty more dunks in this 637 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:44,280 Speaker 3: series than you do? Yeah, I think Lively is done. 638 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 3: He can barely walk. 639 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 1: That's hard of the head. 640 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 3: And that's that's a huge loss for Dallas Mavericks because 641 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 3: this kid, he has the highest plus or minus out 642 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 3: of anybody in the league ever almost. 643 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's barely missing any shots like any and so yeah, we. 644 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 1: We'll keep tabs on that. 645 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,800 Speaker 2: By the way, real quick, the fact that Mike Conley 646 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:12,240 Speaker 2: spoke to a reporter tells me like, if he's actually injured, 647 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 2: he's not speaking to a report. 648 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,399 Speaker 1: No, he's in he's in there, he's back. Yeah, there 649 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 1: you go see there. Yeah, yeah, there it is. 650 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 2: That's uh, that's just kind of one of those things 651 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,439 Speaker 2: in pro sports if if you're out there saying yes 652 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:24,240 Speaker 2: to an interview. 653 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 1: The court playing. You're playing okay, so we'll keep you 654 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: up to date. 655 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 2: Dallas right now is up by ten, eight thirty five 656 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 2: to go second quarter, but the Lively situation has certainly 657 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 2: put a twist on this. Coming up next, two players 658 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 2: in the NFL that we want to talk about. One's 659 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,359 Speaker 2: a huge name and one just became a huge name. 660 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 2: That's next on Fox Sports Radio. Yes, things are starting 661 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 2: to get a little heated, a little chippy developing. 662 00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 1: Mavericks and t Wolves. Keep you posted. 663 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 2: We're broadcasting live from the ty rag dot com studios. 664 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 2: Tyrag dot com will help you get there, an unmatched selection, 665 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 2: fast free shipping, free road AzID protection, and over ten 666 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,760 Speaker 2: thousand recommended installers. Tyraq dot com the way tire buying 667 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 2: should be. But let's dive off the NBA for a second. 668 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 2: I got a few NFL related questions for you. First 669 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 2: and foremost, I would love to know how you feel 670 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 2: about everything Harrison Butker related. 671 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 1: In the last week or so. 672 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 2: It is not often that America comes together for a 673 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 2: debate about a kicker that not happened very much, But 674 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,240 Speaker 2: here we are, and I don't want to go through everything, 675 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 2: like I think most people by now know what was 676 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 2: said the first time around, which is in a college 677 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:58,840 Speaker 2: commencement speech. Butker and again I'm in a paraphrase and 678 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 2: try to sort of make this as quick as I 679 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 2: can to summarize, but he basically said that despite the 680 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 2: fact that everybody in the room was getting ready to 681 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 2: start their professional careers, his bet would be that most 682 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 2: of the females in the audience are most looking forward 683 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 2: to the important jobs being a wife and a mom. Okay, 684 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 2: so that's where it starts. And then America does America. 685 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 2: And then he had another public speaking engagement I think 686 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 2: yesterday the comments that I saw, and Harrison is not 687 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 2: interested in apologizing. I'm not saying that he needs to, 688 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:45,359 Speaker 2: But essentially his point this time around was, now you 689 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 2: can see how much hate there is for traditional Catholic 690 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 2: values because of the way everybody reacted to what he 691 00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:57,800 Speaker 2: had to say. 692 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 3: From how this whole thing make you feel personally, It's 693 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 3: a time and a place to voice your opinions on 694 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 3: what you think society should should be at a graduation 695 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 3: commencement speed speaking engagement probably not the time and place now, 696 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:31,799 Speaker 3: most people just have podcasts, and then you can talk 697 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 3: about whatever you'd like to talk about, however you'd like 698 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 3: to talk about, or maybe a radio show. I don't know. 699 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 3: Seems like this is a combination of live radio and 700 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:48,840 Speaker 3: a podcast. Yes, we can talk about anything here now. 701 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:55,319 Speaker 3: We have bosses here, so we like to stay on 702 00:43:55,400 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 3: topic as much as possible. But for him, I just 703 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:08,799 Speaker 3: thought it was in poor taste to do that. They're 704 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:13,359 Speaker 3: almost scolding the young women who had accomplished something they 705 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:17,880 Speaker 3: had been trying to accomplish, and then telling them they're 706 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:26,840 Speaker 3: misguided and they've been duped into thinking their accomplishments are worthy. 707 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 3: To me, that's a sign of arrogance, and that's the 708 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 3: problem I have with it. I don't have a problem 709 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 3: with his views and his stance, because they're his views 710 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,279 Speaker 3: and his stance. I don't have a problem with that. 711 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,720 Speaker 3: Everybody has their own opinions. We live in an opinion 712 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 3: based we work in an opinion based business. How I 713 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,759 Speaker 3: feel about Anthony Edwards, I'm sure there are millions of 714 00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 3: people who feel the opposite. Does to make him right? 715 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 3: Does it make me right or wrong? It's my opinion. 716 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:11,240 Speaker 3: He has his opinion, But where you spew that opinion? 717 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 3: And who you spew it to. That's the arrogance. And 718 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 3: he chose that moment when those people accomplished what they 719 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 3: set out to accomplish, which is not an easy feat 720 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,719 Speaker 3: to belittle their accomplishments and tell them that they were 721 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 3: misguided and they should be focusing on something else, the 722 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,919 Speaker 3: things that he believe in, that believes in, and that's 723 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,279 Speaker 3: not right, that's not right at all. 724 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,919 Speaker 1: Well, you bring up a whole issue with regard to 725 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:49,239 Speaker 1: someone's opinion, and I guess the question becomes, was he 726 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 1: asked for his opinion in that setting? I'm pretty sure 727 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 1: he wasn't. I don't think he was. 728 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,800 Speaker 2: Now you likened it to a podcast or a radio show, 729 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 2: and yes, we are. 730 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 1: We are asked for our opinion. 731 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,279 Speaker 2: I know sometimes it doesn't sound like it because we 732 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 2: just turned the microphones on. 733 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 1: And we poof, we just give them. 734 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 2: But yes, behind the scenes, we are very very much 735 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 2: hired to uh to share opinion and be interesting at 736 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,880 Speaker 2: least our best efforts to do so. All all of that. 737 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,719 Speaker 2: So that's that's point number one. I guess here's in 738 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:29,640 Speaker 2: the end been my overall reaction to it because I 739 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,760 Speaker 2: love everything you just said, especially because It's the same 740 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,719 Speaker 2: thing that my fifteen year old daughter said to me 741 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,759 Speaker 2: in an hour long drive that I had with her 742 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 2: earlier today. I was taking her out to an event. 743 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 2: She's meeting some friends there. And one of the reasons 744 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 2: I agreed to drive is because I'm like, you know this, 745 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, an hour solo in the car, perfect, 746 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get all my info. 747 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna hang out a little bit, We're gonna find out. 748 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 2: Let's go right, let's let's just let's say, how's this 749 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,759 Speaker 2: friend been doing, how are we doing over here? How's 750 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 2: that class? All those things? And she brought up Harrison Bucker. 751 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,879 Speaker 2: And she is very, very tapped into the Chiefs. Why 752 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,239 Speaker 2: she's a fifteen year old girl. I don't need to 753 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 2: tell you anymore, okay, Taylor Swift. So she knows what's 754 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,680 Speaker 2: going on with the Kansas City Chiefs, and she's thinking 755 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 2: about what she heard Harrison Bucker say, and she's just like, 756 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 2: how do you say that to people who are about 757 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 2: to graduate? 758 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:36,280 Speaker 1: Like, how do you do that? So here's what's interesting 759 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 1: about it to me is. 760 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 2: You say what you said, you get backlash and the 761 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 2: number one opinion or like the thing that Harrison or 762 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:54,360 Speaker 2: anyone supporting him or backing him, even Andy Reid. The 763 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,920 Speaker 2: number one thing that they'll say is, well, it's just 764 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:03,320 Speaker 2: his opinion, right, and. 765 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:04,360 Speaker 1: So is. 766 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:11,439 Speaker 2: So is everything else. So is the response to what 767 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:15,399 Speaker 2: you said. All of the words that you are now 768 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 2: saying are hate. Do you notice how that happened? Harrison 769 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,440 Speaker 2: throws something out and people go, I don't like that, 770 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:26,759 Speaker 2: and he goes, everybody hates Catholicism or no, no, no, 771 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,440 Speaker 2: they're just saying their opinion that they. 772 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 1: Don't like what you said. 773 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:37,240 Speaker 2: Why can't those people hide behind just my opinion? 774 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:40,319 Speaker 1: That's what bugs me. 775 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,640 Speaker 2: What bugs me is we head out into the world 776 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 2: with our opinion and if it is controversial, if it 777 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 2: is offensive, it is dismissive, if it is inappropriate, any 778 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:58,279 Speaker 2: word that you want to put on it, just my opinion. 779 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,560 Speaker 1: So you get to it's a catch all. 780 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, because everybody hating your opinion is also just 781 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:08,000 Speaker 2: our opinion. 782 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,800 Speaker 3: You know why it's like that, because we in society 783 00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,799 Speaker 3: don't know how to speak to each other anymore. The 784 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:23,440 Speaker 3: greatest thing Twitter did was it took away people's ability 785 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 3: to have a conversation, because in a conversation, a real conversation, 786 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 3: there has to be listening involved. Twitter gave us a 787 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:48,759 Speaker 3: platform where we were waiting to respond instead of listening 788 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:55,759 Speaker 3: understanding what someone's point of view was. So now a 789 00:49:55,920 --> 00:50:04,520 Speaker 3: decade of defending yourself opposed to conversating about a topic, 790 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:12,720 Speaker 3: whatever it is, religion, politics, dating, whatever that is, we're 791 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,760 Speaker 3: now caught up in a cycle of I must speak 792 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:22,760 Speaker 3: louder and more aggressive from my point to be heard 793 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:28,719 Speaker 3: over your point. There's no understanding in conversation anymore. So 794 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:34,960 Speaker 3: when someone says, wow, that wasn't the right time or 795 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:39,080 Speaker 3: place to say that, you immediately turn to there's so 796 00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:46,040 Speaker 3: much hate out here, right, that's because no one's listening. 797 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:55,680 Speaker 3: Everyone must be right, which is an impossibility for every 798 00:50:55,920 --> 00:51:02,359 Speaker 3: single person in the world to be right. So there's 799 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:08,759 Speaker 3: no way to disseminate what is, what who is, and 800 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,799 Speaker 3: where do you? So now I got to get all 801 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:17,880 Speaker 3: this out and everybody has to know. And it's literally 802 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:25,080 Speaker 3: eroded and deteriorated our ability to communicate with each other 803 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,480 Speaker 3: because number one, you don't have to be face. 804 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,720 Speaker 1: To face with anybody anymore. Yep. 805 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:38,200 Speaker 3: So there's no consequence and that's where we are now. 806 00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,520 Speaker 1: It's well said it's really well said. 807 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,279 Speaker 2: In the race to be right, we've all forgotten that 808 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,440 Speaker 2: there are many things where there is no right. I 809 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 2: didn't think there was a right or wrong here. I 810 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:56,160 Speaker 2: didn't hear what Harrison Bucker say and suddenly go, well, 811 00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 2: those are some whack traditional Catholic value. 812 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,319 Speaker 1: I thought the same thing you did. Dude, why are 813 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:04,319 Speaker 1: you saying that to them? 814 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:09,879 Speaker 2: So while Harrison now wants to hide behind you're all 815 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:15,919 Speaker 2: mad at my opinion. Nope, nope, I may not come 816 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,640 Speaker 2: from the same faith think the same thing. That doesn't 817 00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,640 Speaker 2: even matter to me. My opinion is not that I 818 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,480 Speaker 2: don't like your opinion. My opinion is I don't like 819 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,480 Speaker 2: when you said it and who you said it to. 820 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,799 Speaker 2: So it has nothing to do with Catholicism. It has 821 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:35,719 Speaker 2: everything to do with being presumptuous and rude, and I 822 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,280 Speaker 2: don't find that to be about anything related to his opinion. 823 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:45,319 Speaker 2: That was related to timing, It was related to self awareness. 824 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,839 Speaker 2: It was related to the way the people in the 825 00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,799 Speaker 2: audience felt about it. Because one thing I've always learned 826 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,439 Speaker 2: as a public speaker e from you can walk out 827 00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,239 Speaker 2: of the room after you talk, and you can think 828 00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,640 Speaker 2: you did great, and you could think you did horrible 829 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:05,560 Speaker 2: and what you think doesn't matter. The audience matters, our 830 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:10,800 Speaker 2: ratings or what have you. Any show and their metrics 831 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:12,359 Speaker 2: have nothing to do if we. 832 00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,400 Speaker 1: Go home and think we did a good job. 833 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,520 Speaker 2: It has to do with the audience and what they 834 00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:23,040 Speaker 2: react to and how they feel after you're done. The 835 00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 2: way your message lands is your responsibility, right? 836 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:28,680 Speaker 1: Is that not? 837 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:33,200 Speaker 2: I'll take it to the a totally different arena. You 838 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:37,000 Speaker 2: remember Nate Boyer, the guy who sat with with Colin 839 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,600 Speaker 2: Kaepernick and said, hey, set us sitting on the bench, 840 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:44,840 Speaker 2: what if you do a forward Neil better messaging? That 841 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,359 Speaker 2: was the the whole thing Nate was trying to say 842 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:53,319 Speaker 2: to him. It was just like, look, audience, right, might 843 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:58,759 Speaker 2: you might get a different conversation going if you presented 844 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,239 Speaker 2: your argument this way. 845 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,880 Speaker 1: Colin agreed with him, started a movement. 846 00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:10,000 Speaker 2: It remained controversial, but the way the audience received it 847 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:14,920 Speaker 2: was completely different. That is the message that Harrison Butker 848 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:16,640 Speaker 2: should get out of this, And I haven't heard that 849 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 2: one yet. 850 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:18,040 Speaker 9: No. 851 00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:22,560 Speaker 3: You know, look, man, people are we're at a time 852 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:29,239 Speaker 3: now in society where I mean the need to be 853 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:36,799 Speaker 3: right all the time has to be exhausting. Now I've 854 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:41,400 Speaker 3: been married. We've been together twenty one years. I've learned 855 00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:45,760 Speaker 3: to not be right a lot of the time. Whether 856 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:49,799 Speaker 3: I'm right or not, it just comes with the territory. 857 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,680 Speaker 3: Anybody out there in long term marriages, it is the men. 858 00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 1: They know exactly what I'm talking about. 859 00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:01,359 Speaker 3: So if you you want to be in a successful 860 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:07,560 Speaker 3: marriage or relationship you're going to have, you're going to 861 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:17,000 Speaker 3: have to take another person's opinion seriously or it will 862 00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:17,600 Speaker 3: not last. 863 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:25,880 Speaker 1: So just use that in everyday life. I get it. 864 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,319 Speaker 3: Some things I agree with, some things I don't, but 865 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,200 Speaker 3: I'm willing to listen and I'm willing to have dialogue. 866 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:38,680 Speaker 3: The problem is there's no dialogue. It's just shouting. And 867 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna let you shout in my face because 868 00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:47,040 Speaker 3: it's not necessary. I promise to talk quieter for you're good. 869 00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 3: Oh okay, all right. 870 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,759 Speaker 2: Well we'll live in the Tirak dot com studios and 871 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,719 Speaker 2: not done with the NFL because a very very big 872 00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:58,360 Speaker 2: name also garnered a whole lot of talk this week. 873 00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,000 Speaker 2: We'll let you know what that's all about. Dive into it. 874 00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:04,000 Speaker 2: Can't wait for your opinion on this one, and no 875 00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:05,480 Speaker 2: matter what it is, I won't get mad at you. 876 00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,640 Speaker 2: I promise that's it from Salam. I'm Mark Willard. It's 877 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:13,040 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Okay, we're live tyrag dot Com Studios, 878 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,879 Speaker 2: the maps by eight at half, keep you up to date. 879 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,800 Speaker 2: We'll move that thing into the second half here pretty 880 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,680 Speaker 2: quickly with E from Salama, Mark Willard, glad you're with us. 881 00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:27,080 Speaker 2: Scott Hansen, you know who that it is, right, NFL 882 00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:31,239 Speaker 2: Red Zone, Scott Handsome. He just tweeted something out that 883 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,600 Speaker 2: got me very very happy, got me very very happy. 884 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:43,799 Speaker 2: It has been fifteen Sundays since the Super Bowl, and 885 00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,640 Speaker 2: fifteen sundays from now. 886 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,720 Speaker 1: We will be together again. 887 00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:59,880 Speaker 2: Ephraim, welcome to halftime with my gosh. 888 00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:04,520 Speaker 1: We're getting there, brother, we are getting there. You NFL 889 00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:05,520 Speaker 1: fans are crazy. 890 00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,440 Speaker 2: I love it. From a guy who played thirteen years. 891 00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,480 Speaker 2: You better be happy. You probably have an extra bedroom 892 00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:15,760 Speaker 2: on that house because of how. 893 00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:16,360 Speaker 1: Nuts we are. 894 00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:23,760 Speaker 2: Well, it did help, no, man, it's just different. It's different. 895 00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:28,880 Speaker 2: There's absolutely nothing like it. There's nothing like it. And 896 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:35,440 Speaker 2: I love everything, but there's nothing like that energy. Absolutely nothing. So, 897 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:42,120 Speaker 2: speaking of Witch, your job, part of your job was 898 00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:46,960 Speaker 2: to open up running lanes for running backs, right, that 899 00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:50,560 Speaker 2: is correct? Okay, So let's talk about the running back 900 00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,360 Speaker 2: position for a second before we get to the now, 901 00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:58,440 Speaker 2: Let's go to the then. Okay, last year it became 902 00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:04,760 Speaker 2: a very very big deal. The diminishing returns financially for 903 00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:12,800 Speaker 2: running backs, the league wide refusal to pay them commensurate 904 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:17,480 Speaker 2: with their popularity, their name value, what have you. You 905 00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:21,480 Speaker 2: and I had, I think some really interesting conversations about 906 00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,040 Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley. 907 00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,800 Speaker 1: The Giants wouldn't pay him, then they gave. 908 00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:30,280 Speaker 10: Him some crumbs, put it on top of his contract, 909 00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:34,200 Speaker 10: so he played, and then he left, and even the 910 00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,960 Speaker 10: deal that he got with the Eagles, like the perception all, well, 911 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,520 Speaker 10: Saquon got paid now, eh, Like. 912 00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:42,720 Speaker 1: Sure, hes going to eat. 913 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:49,840 Speaker 2: But when you look at stars in the league, the 914 00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:55,560 Speaker 2: running back position is one of the lowest in terms 915 00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,800 Speaker 2: of players that we really talk about and think about 916 00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,160 Speaker 2: and all that stuff. So, first of foremost, what's your 917 00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,640 Speaker 2: current thought on where that stands? 918 00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,200 Speaker 1: The way the league pays running backs. Well, I think 919 00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:14,040 Speaker 1: it's part of the ebbs and flow of contracts. When you. 920 00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:21,640 Speaker 3: Have a team that consistently wins without the use of 921 00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:26,040 Speaker 3: a true running back are a stud It changes the 922 00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:33,320 Speaker 3: perception of a value for set position. Remember, when Tom 923 00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:37,479 Speaker 3: Brady was winning all those Super Bowls without real big 924 00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:47,520 Speaker 3: time receivers, the receiver market declined. So when you have 925 00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:53,920 Speaker 3: a situation where it's like the smoking mirrors of well, 926 00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,160 Speaker 3: we got to get the quarterback. We get the quarterback, 927 00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:59,720 Speaker 3: we don't need to spend money on the running back, 928 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:05,760 Speaker 3: need to spend money on receivers. Tight ends are extremely 929 01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:10,760 Speaker 3: valuable right now in the NFL because of the work 930 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:18,320 Speaker 3: of Travis Kelce Grunk before him, even you know a 931 01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:22,120 Speaker 3: kittle like these Mark Andrews. 932 01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:24,400 Speaker 1: Right, So. 933 01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:31,040 Speaker 3: That's a position that was revered that you would want 934 01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:35,440 Speaker 3: to partner with the top tier quarterback because the success 935 01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:40,120 Speaker 3: spoke for itself. The teams who were going and winning 936 01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:44,600 Speaker 3: Super Bowls had those at key you know, you know, 937 01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:51,400 Speaker 3: key players at those key positions. So in the last 938 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:57,400 Speaker 3: three Super Bowl champ four Super Bowl champions, who's been 939 01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:05,400 Speaker 3: the running back that really stood out for you that 940 01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:15,240 Speaker 3: you rode to the Super Bowl? So it excuse it 941 01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,600 Speaker 3: the value dips, Oh, we don't need that. We need 942 01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:24,840 Speaker 3: to address this area. We need to do this, and 943 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:26,680 Speaker 3: that's the way the league goes. 944 01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:27,800 Speaker 1: Now. 945 01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:32,280 Speaker 3: If the San Francisco forty nine, now there's an outlier 946 01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:34,440 Speaker 3: which is I know where you were going with this, 947 01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:38,760 Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey, there's an out Why is he an outlier 948 01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,080 Speaker 3: because he's not just a running back? 949 01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:42,280 Speaker 1: Ah? 950 01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:47,960 Speaker 2: I think that that statement right there is at the 951 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:49,320 Speaker 2: core of this whole thing. 952 01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:52,960 Speaker 1: I think it's at the core of this whole thing. 953 01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:59,360 Speaker 2: Because I totally get where you're going, and I totally 954 01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,760 Speaker 2: get I'm I don't miss a play of the forty 955 01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:05,120 Speaker 2: nine ers season, so I get it. I watch it. 956 01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:08,200 Speaker 2: He is as important to that team as anyone on it. 957 01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:12,040 Speaker 1: By his more by position, by nature running back. 958 01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:16,880 Speaker 2: Right, and and and so I guess the question becomes 959 01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:22,280 Speaker 2: is if a guy sort of quote unquote out performs 960 01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:25,200 Speaker 2: the name of the position that's next to his name, 961 01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:28,520 Speaker 2: does an NFL team have to pay for that? 962 01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:30,560 Speaker 1: You know what? 963 01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,920 Speaker 3: I'd love to answer that, but before I do that, 964 01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:39,040 Speaker 3: I'd like to throw it to a guy that we. 965 01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:46,440 Speaker 1: iHeart has to pay. Yeah, they don't nning lane right now. 966 01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,920 Speaker 3: If they don't pay this guy, why come to work? 967 01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:53,000 Speaker 3: And that's one stephen staying at home to. 968 01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,880 Speaker 7: Say good differences forty nine ers know that McCaffrey is 969 01:02:55,920 --> 01:03:00,000 Speaker 7: playing good son. Even to you, gentlemen, Dallas is leading minutes, 970 01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:03,120 Speaker 7: so to sixty two to fifty five early third quarter. 971 01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,880 Speaker 7: This is Game three of the NBA's West Finals. Mavericks 972 01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,680 Speaker 7: already up two games to none. Dallas will host Game 973 01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:12,120 Speaker 7: four on Tuesday night. Luka Donsiic with fifteen points in 974 01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:15,440 Speaker 7: the first half, Kyrie Irving with fourteen. MAVs are shooting 975 01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,880 Speaker 7: fifty four percent from the floor. Meanwhile, for the Timberwolves, 976 01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:22,600 Speaker 7: Karl Anthony Towns two of ten from the floor, Anthony 977 01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,360 Speaker 7: Edwards with twelve points. It was a lead of fifty 978 01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,479 Speaker 7: to thirty eight in the second quarter Dallas. It's now 979 01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,240 Speaker 7: just a seven point advantage. MAVs at the lineup sixty 980 01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,960 Speaker 7: two to fifty five early in the third. In the 981 01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:37,240 Speaker 7: NHL East Final, Rangers won in overtime again, this time 982 01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,920 Speaker 7: at Florida, five to four. Rangers lead the series two 983 01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:43,240 Speaker 7: games to one. NASCAR's Coca Cola six hundred is going 984 01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:46,960 Speaker 7: on Fox TV from Charlotte right now. About fifty laps 985 01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,640 Speaker 7: to go in this current stage. They're at two fifty 986 01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,640 Speaker 7: out of the four hundred total laps. Christopher Bell in 987 01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:56,160 Speaker 7: the lead, Brag Keislowski second, William Byron third. There's a 988 01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:59,680 Speaker 7: chance of a thunderstorm rolling through Charlotte in about a 989 01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,320 Speaker 7: half hour, they say. Meanwhile, there's been a long rain 990 01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:05,240 Speaker 7: delay at the start of the Cubs at Cardinals game tonight, 991 01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,600 Speaker 7: about two and a half hour's worth. They're due to 992 01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,080 Speaker 7: begin in a few minutes. Finally, Cardinals have won four 993 01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,240 Speaker 7: in a row. Cleveland won its ninth game in a 994 01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:15,280 Speaker 7: row five to four at the Angels. Houston beat Oakland 995 01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,040 Speaker 7: five to two. Ronel Blanco with another win. He's five 996 01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,400 Speaker 7: to oh. He pitched seven innings, just one run aloud 997 01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,960 Speaker 7: the Yankees. Gencarlo stand went over four with four strikeouts 998 01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,600 Speaker 7: as the Padres finally beat the Yanks today five to two. 999 01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:30,360 Speaker 7: Yankees had won eleven of their last thirteen games. Colorado 1000 01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:34,120 Speaker 7: defeated Philadelphia five to beat pitcher Ranger Suarez, who had 1001 01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,280 Speaker 7: been nine to oh this year, but he was down 1002 01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:38,760 Speaker 7: five to nothing in the second inning. And Miami won 1003 01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:41,440 Speaker 7: three to one at Arizona with three underended runs in 1004 01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:45,000 Speaker 7: the seventh. Atlanta's Ronald Acuna will go on the injured 1005 01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:46,720 Speaker 7: list with a knee injury. He was hurt on the 1006 01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,840 Speaker 7: base pass today. Braves did win eight to one at Pittsburgh. 1007 01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,560 Speaker 7: Chris Saal the winning pitcher is now eight and one. 1008 01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,960 Speaker 7: Cincinnati handed the Dodgers a fifth straight loss, four to one. 1009 01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:58,840 Speaker 7: This is the Dodgers' longest losing streak in five years. 1010 01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,720 Speaker 7: In fact, the la off with runners in scoring position 1011 01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,880 Speaker 7: had gone er for their last twenty two until the 1012 01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:05,520 Speaker 7: ninth inning. 1013 01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:06,040 Speaker 8: RBI. 1014 01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:08,560 Speaker 7: Detroit on a three run homer bottom of the ninth, 1015 01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:12,560 Speaker 7: beat Toronto fourteen to eleven. Mets got three runs bottom 1016 01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:14,840 Speaker 7: of the ninth to edge San Francisco four to three. 1017 01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,840 Speaker 7: The Mets end of five game losing streak Tampa Bay 1018 01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,439 Speaker 7: for to one over Kansas City. The Royals eight game 1019 01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:23,439 Speaker 7: win streak is over and Baltimore's won four to zero 1020 01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,680 Speaker 7: after a four to one win at the White Sox, 1021 01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,760 Speaker 7: who had only one hit in eighth inning homer. White Sox, 1022 01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,440 Speaker 7: having a horrible season, have lost five in a row. 1023 01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:35,320 Speaker 7: Davis Riley won by five strokes at Colonial, Joseph Nugarden 1024 01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:38,840 Speaker 7: won the NDY five hundred again. Tennis's French Open started today. 1025 01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,720 Speaker 7: Naomi Osaka won her first rounder in three sets, her 1026 01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:44,840 Speaker 7: first victory there in three years. She could face Number 1027 01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:47,800 Speaker 7: one Egas Fiontek next on the men's side, Number one 1028 01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,560 Speaker 7: Novak Djokovic has not won a tournament this year, he 1029 01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:54,480 Speaker 7: has lower expectations, he says this time. Raphael Nadal's first 1030 01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:57,640 Speaker 7: round match will be against number four seat Alexander Zverev. 1031 01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:01,280 Speaker 7: Nadal turns thirty eight next month. It could be his 1032 01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,880 Speaker 7: final French open updating Dallas MAVs up sixty six sixty 1033 01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:06,360 Speaker 7: over Minnesota early third. 1034 01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:09,360 Speaker 2: Back to you, all right, Steve, great stuff as always, 1035 01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,680 Speaker 2: we appreciate it. We're live in the Thetirack dot Com studios. 1036 01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:17,400 Speaker 2: Mark Witherty from Salam So, yeah, that whole running back 1037 01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:20,840 Speaker 2: situation that sort of becomes my question. And the reason 1038 01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:23,720 Speaker 2: this came up this week is because Christian McCaffrey, which 1039 01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:29,680 Speaker 2: is against his norm, he skipped voluntary OTAs. The Niners 1040 01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:33,240 Speaker 2: don't sound concerned. Pro Football Talk reported that this was 1041 01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:37,600 Speaker 2: not about money, but also said maybe something financial will 1042 01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:41,880 Speaker 2: come up this offseason. We'll see, because when you're with 1043 01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:44,240 Speaker 2: a team that gets a lot of attention and has 1044 01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,800 Speaker 2: a lot of good players on it and people are 1045 01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:49,920 Speaker 2: starting to get paid, Nick Bosa got his, Brandon Ayuk 1046 01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:52,400 Speaker 2: is in the process of trying to get his, and 1047 01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,400 Speaker 2: deebo got his, and George. 1048 01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:54,960 Speaker 1: Kittle got his. 1049 01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:58,880 Speaker 2: Fred Warner got his, and they're all maybe not Kittle, 1050 01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:03,400 Speaker 2: but they're all making more more money than Christian McCaffrey. 1051 01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:08,400 Speaker 2: And people go, well, how is that fair? Christian McCaffrey 1052 01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:12,080 Speaker 2: is the best player at his position. Christian is I 1053 01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:16,280 Speaker 2: could argue, more important to that team than any of 1054 01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:20,720 Speaker 2: those guys. And I keep thinking to myself, Gosh, I 1055 01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:23,840 Speaker 2: from if I wanted to have this conversation and have 1056 01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:29,400 Speaker 2: the background of it be fairness, if that was our premise, 1057 01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:31,640 Speaker 2: well then you're all right. 1058 01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:33,080 Speaker 1: Everybody's right. 1059 01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:37,080 Speaker 2: If we want it to be fair, then not only 1060 01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:41,400 Speaker 2: should Christian make more money, all NFL contracts should have 1061 01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:46,160 Speaker 2: more guarantees than they do, and brock Perty should make 1062 01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:51,360 Speaker 2: seven figures too. But there's all kinds of little things 1063 01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:55,040 Speaker 2: that go into why a salary is what it is, 1064 01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:57,360 Speaker 2: leverage being first and foremost. 1065 01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:02,640 Speaker 1: But I just think there's a lot of history to 1066 01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:03,600 Speaker 1: what you just said. 1067 01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:07,479 Speaker 2: When a player plays his position in such a way 1068 01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:11,560 Speaker 2: that it looks like two positions, do you get paid 1069 01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:11,920 Speaker 2: for that? 1070 01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,800 Speaker 1: The answer is almost always no. 1071 01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:19,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, we had we ran into this a couple of 1072 01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:22,840 Speaker 3: years ago, maybe more than a couple with Jimmy Graham, 1073 01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:24,080 Speaker 3: remember that, remember. 1074 01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:26,679 Speaker 1: John Everything he's a receiver. 1075 01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,880 Speaker 3: Yes, well he lined up more as a receiver than 1076 01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:31,839 Speaker 3: he did as a tight end, and that was his argument. 1077 01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:36,400 Speaker 3: He got paid too. But having players like that, the 1078 01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:39,320 Speaker 3: same argument with Deebo, Right, what is he? 1079 01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:40,959 Speaker 1: I mean? He does everything? 1080 01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:45,840 Speaker 3: The San Francisco forty nine has created an environment where 1081 01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:49,760 Speaker 3: extremely skilled players can flourish because they know how to 1082 01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,839 Speaker 3: use them. You can put de Ball on a different 1083 01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:55,040 Speaker 3: team and he won't be the debo that we've come 1084 01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:58,000 Speaker 3: to know and love. You can put Christian McCaffrey on 1085 01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,759 Speaker 3: a different team in the same way. If your mindset 1086 01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,920 Speaker 3: as a offensive coordinator or head coach is to tend 1087 01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:07,400 Speaker 3: the ball off and let him do his thing, and 1088 01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:14,120 Speaker 3: then you won't get the value out of your player 1089 01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:21,080 Speaker 3: that you should. And that's what Kyle Shanahan does. They 1090 01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:24,360 Speaker 3: maximize the abilities of the players. And as a player, 1091 01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:26,760 Speaker 3: that's the only thing you want. You want to go 1092 01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:31,400 Speaker 3: to a place where your talents are maximized. You're put 1093 01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:36,680 Speaker 3: in a position to to really excel. 1094 01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:39,040 Speaker 1: All the time. 1095 01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:45,000 Speaker 3: And do I think Christian McCaffrey I deserve to be paid? Absolutely? 1096 01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:47,920 Speaker 3: Does he deserve to be paid more than other running 1097 01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:51,160 Speaker 3: backs in the NFL? Absolutely? Does he do more? Absolutely 1098 01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:55,240 Speaker 3: so pay that man his money. Ah, here's the issue. 1099 01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:58,160 Speaker 2: Does he deserve to get paid more than every running 1100 01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:01,720 Speaker 2: back in the NFL? You'll say yeah, and I'll say 1101 01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:02,639 Speaker 2: he already is. 1102 01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:08,760 Speaker 1: In fact, if you go through every single one of 1103 01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:14,080 Speaker 1: the next one, two, three, four, say, seven, eight, nine, ten, 1104 01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:16,439 Speaker 1: the rest of the top ten. 1105 01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:25,360 Speaker 2: From have all signed contracts since Christian signed his, and 1106 01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:30,040 Speaker 2: he still makes more than they do. So how do 1107 01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:34,799 Speaker 2: you go into the office and say, hey, forty nine ers. 1108 01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:38,559 Speaker 1: I would like, what does he have left on his deal? 1109 01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:42,280 Speaker 1: Two more years? Two years at what? Well? 1110 01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:46,320 Speaker 2: He averages sixteen a year, but a lot of that 1111 01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:49,800 Speaker 2: is also wrapped up into signing bonuses. 1112 01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:50,360 Speaker 1: That have already been paid. 1113 01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:53,439 Speaker 2: The forty nine ers out of pocket will be twelve 1114 01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:55,479 Speaker 2: over the next two years each. 1115 01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:01,160 Speaker 1: But his contract value. 1116 01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:07,240 Speaker 2: Was sixty four million dollars and he will get that. 1117 01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:10,439 Speaker 1: And they've already restructured at. 1118 01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:13,920 Speaker 2: Once and that led to a big, a big old 1119 01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:16,200 Speaker 2: bonus check that he got. It also helped the forty 1120 01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:20,639 Speaker 2: nine ers with their cap restructuring. But Alvin Kamara makes less, 1121 01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:23,400 Speaker 2: and Jonathan Taylor just got his deal and makes less, 1122 01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:26,320 Speaker 2: and Sae Kwon Barkley who everyone's like, ooh, he got 1123 01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:29,200 Speaker 2: paid makes a million more than he did last year. 1124 01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:33,280 Speaker 2: For three years, only two of them guaranteed makes less 1125 01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:41,439 Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs less, Mixing, Henry Swift, Pollard, Aaron Jones significantly less. 1126 01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:46,360 Speaker 2: Five running backs total have an AAV that is in 1127 01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:49,600 Speaker 2: That is ten million dollars on north five in the 1128 01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:54,360 Speaker 2: whole league. So if I just want to look at 1129 01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,320 Speaker 2: this as like, well, I turn on my TV and 1130 01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:59,840 Speaker 2: he's good, right, right right? 1131 01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:04,000 Speaker 1: He should make thirty five million a year. He should 1132 01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:05,360 Speaker 1: That's what it looks like on TV. 1133 01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:09,439 Speaker 2: So the but is this then this isn't the Niners 1134 01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:11,360 Speaker 2: fault that this is the way the market is. 1135 01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:16,479 Speaker 3: No. The best thing that could happen for the running 1136 01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:25,759 Speaker 3: back position is say Kwan went to Philly, right, correct, 1137 01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:29,880 Speaker 3: So say Philly goes to the Super Bowl and win it. Hekwon, 1138 01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:31,280 Speaker 3: Barkley leads the league in rushing. 1139 01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:32,120 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 1140 01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:35,679 Speaker 3: Best thing that could happen to the running back position. 1141 01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:42,480 Speaker 3: I agree, say Derrick Henry, he went to Baltimore, correct Baltimore, 1142 01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:45,920 Speaker 3: Say Baltimore wins, they lead the league in rushing, which 1143 01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:50,280 Speaker 3: they probably will, and he himself personally leads the league 1144 01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:52,960 Speaker 3: in rushing the best thing could happen for the position 1145 01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:56,559 Speaker 3: in terms of value. Say the Houston Texans who just 1146 01:12:56,640 --> 01:13:02,320 Speaker 3: got Joe Mixon, say they lead the league in rushing 1147 01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:06,080 Speaker 3: and they go to the Super Bowl and win it. Right, 1148 01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:11,599 Speaker 3: that's what it's going to take to switch the pendulum back. 1149 01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:19,679 Speaker 3: The NFL has always been that way. It's always been 1150 01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:25,920 Speaker 3: that way. So it's a trend league. 1151 01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:27,240 Speaker 1: What is the. 1152 01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:30,280 Speaker 3: Current trend of winning? I remember growing up in an 1153 01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:36,000 Speaker 3: NFL where two day practices were really to a day practices, 1154 01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:41,920 Speaker 3: padded practices all through the week on Wednesday and Thursday, 1155 01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:50,040 Speaker 3: full pads were standard until teams, you know, the Niners 1156 01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:56,040 Speaker 3: and you know Green Bay teams start taking the pads off. 1157 01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:02,960 Speaker 3: Sean McVay not playing anybody in the preseason, they win 1158 01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:06,680 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. Nobody wants to play starters in this. 1159 01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:12,719 Speaker 3: You do what I'm saying, it's a trending league. Whatever 1160 01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:19,360 Speaker 3: the team is doing that wins, that will become the trend. 1161 01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:23,479 Speaker 3: And if you're going to hand the ball off twenty 1162 01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:27,080 Speaker 3: eight to thirty five times a game and lead the 1163 01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:31,519 Speaker 3: league in rushing it and it materializes in a Super 1164 01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:36,360 Speaker 3: Bowl win, then that will change the value of running backs. 1165 01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:43,000 Speaker 2: Speaking of trends. Uh, there's a certain team that you 1166 01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:45,160 Speaker 2: all are going to want to hear about that's trending 1167 01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:48,599 Speaker 2: up right now, and we'll get to that coming up 1168 01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,559 Speaker 2: next with E from Salama, Mark Wellard, Fox Sports Radio, 1169 01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:57,760 Speaker 2: Mark Wellard, E from salamlivety rack dot Com Studios. 1170 01:14:57,760 --> 01:14:59,360 Speaker 3: This is what happens when you don't work with people 1171 01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:03,280 Speaker 3: who are expect you. Okay, you did you know? You 1172 01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:07,439 Speaker 3: asked me, like, what happens when people don't take you 1173 01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:09,240 Speaker 3: seriously in the workplace. 1174 01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:12,839 Speaker 6: I can see you washing right now in the studio. 1175 01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:15,479 Speaker 6: What are you talking about? I literally see you washing 1176 01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:19,639 Speaker 6: right now. I mean WILLI he's washing right now. 1177 01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:23,320 Speaker 1: You can't mosh the air. He's in there by himself. 1178 01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:26,240 Speaker 1: You don't know that. 1179 01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:29,559 Speaker 2: No, Again, I told you something earlier that I have 1180 01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:32,360 Speaker 2: rules about people who are or have been three hundred 1181 01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:35,160 Speaker 2: pounds in their life, and one is that I don't 1182 01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:35,800 Speaker 2: mess with them. 1183 01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:40,559 Speaker 1: And two I believe that when they mush, they make noise. 1184 01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:44,360 Speaker 2: Like I'm not hearing anything right now, he dude, you 1185 01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:45,759 Speaker 2: would be breaking things. 1186 01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:48,080 Speaker 1: I have to imagine. 1187 01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:50,760 Speaker 2: Can I like, while we're on this subject, what's it 1188 01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:54,160 Speaker 2: like for you to, you know, dance at a wedding. 1189 01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:58,080 Speaker 3: Oh I love dancing. I'm here a dancer, so I 1190 01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:01,720 Speaker 3: just you know, I stick to my you know, But. 1191 01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:04,519 Speaker 2: I mean, are people like flying across the floor. 1192 01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:08,240 Speaker 1: They can bump into them and they across the floor. 1193 01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:12,880 Speaker 1: What do you mean do bump into people? Huh? I 1194 01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:14,559 Speaker 1: don't bump into people. I know how to dance. 1195 01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:19,360 Speaker 2: You can know how to dance without also knowing who's 1196 01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:20,040 Speaker 2: right behind. 1197 01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:23,800 Speaker 3: Hey man, what when you have been big as long 1198 01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:30,160 Speaker 3: as I have? You learn how to control your body. 1199 01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:33,599 Speaker 3: Spatial awareness is a real thing. 1200 01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:38,679 Speaker 1: You've never bumped anyone on a dance. 1201 01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:40,800 Speaker 3: Floor, of course, But I don't bump them in a way. 1202 01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:46,360 Speaker 3: Would they fly into the bar and you know, shatter 1203 01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:47,120 Speaker 3: their shoulder. 1204 01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:49,120 Speaker 2: I mean, it feels like that would not be in 1205 01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:51,920 Speaker 2: your control. I feel like there are a lot of 1206 01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:55,280 Speaker 2: humans I know who if they bumped into you, would 1207 01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:58,480 Speaker 2: go flying just because they bumped into you. 1208 01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:06,360 Speaker 10: No, okay, no, you're wrong. But it wasn't to just 1209 01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:11,400 Speaker 10: say you're wrong. Well, that's good. I'm glad. I'm glad 1210 01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:13,559 Speaker 10: that I'm wrong about that. I don't want to be 1211 01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:18,000 Speaker 10: right about that anyway. You said that no one listens 1212 01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:19,479 Speaker 10: to each other in America, anymore. 1213 01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:28,479 Speaker 2: You were right, You were right. I know, all right. 1214 01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:36,960 Speaker 2: The Timberwolves are driving me nuts. They're driving me nuts. Yeah, 1215 01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:38,160 Speaker 2: they're driving me nuts. 1216 01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:40,480 Speaker 1: I don't. 1217 01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:46,200 Speaker 2: The Minnesota Timberwolves have officially become a teenager. 1218 01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:50,160 Speaker 1: They don't follow any of the rules. 1219 01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:52,920 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what you say to them, They're going 1220 01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,960 Speaker 2: to do the opposite. You can tell them all about 1221 01:17:56,000 --> 01:18:01,360 Speaker 2: all your life experiences. They don't care because they know 1222 01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:08,639 Speaker 2: here we are, the Minnesota Timberwolves. You got seven footers 1223 01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:12,200 Speaker 2: who won't stop shooting threes. You have wing players who 1224 01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:16,639 Speaker 2: are telling you that they are generational talent before they've 1225 01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:21,920 Speaker 2: even gotten out of the third round. They lose games 1226 01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:25,639 Speaker 2: at home that they're supposed to win, They fall behind 1227 01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:30,000 Speaker 2: on the road, and the only difference between them and 1228 01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:32,800 Speaker 2: a teenager is that they might be right e from. 1229 01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:39,160 Speaker 1: Like, for god's sakes, what the hell? What is this. 1230 01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:43,040 Speaker 2: Playoff run that I'm watching right now? What's happening? By 1231 01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:44,799 Speaker 2: the way, for those of you who don't why I'm ranting, 1232 01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:48,760 Speaker 2: they have erased the deficit and they are tied in 1233 01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:51,040 Speaker 2: the third quarter of what we think is the must 1234 01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:55,120 Speaker 2: win game. But you know what, these crazy people may 1235 01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:57,120 Speaker 2: actually go down three to Ozho and then still win 1236 01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:57,719 Speaker 2: the series. 1237 01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:00,880 Speaker 1: No, I think they've done. Go down three to zero. 1238 01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:02,360 Speaker 1: It's a wrap, it's over. 1239 01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:06,200 Speaker 2: You'd think I've already told you I won't say that 1240 01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:07,479 Speaker 2: about these people anymore. 1241 01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:13,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it it. I mean, you know, everything would 1242 01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:16,519 Speaker 3: have to go perfect. It's very hard to be perfect 1243 01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:23,599 Speaker 3: in anything you do, you know, sports related, So it's 1244 01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:26,360 Speaker 3: you know, it's this is a must win game if 1245 01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:28,720 Speaker 3: they want to win the series or have an opportunity 1246 01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:32,360 Speaker 3: to win the series. And you know they're attacking the 1247 01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:37,040 Speaker 3: basket with that in mind. The level of intensity has 1248 01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:42,439 Speaker 3: picked up. The difference is when you're fighting like you're 1249 01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:47,000 Speaker 3: fighting and you have two dynamic last Kyrie just scores 1250 01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:50,759 Speaker 3: over the defensive player of the year, similar to Luca 1251 01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:58,679 Speaker 3: scoring over him to end last game. You have two 1252 01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:02,679 Speaker 3: guards who can nullify any defense you can throw at them, 1253 01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:06,080 Speaker 3: and that's dangerous. That's dangerous because if it comes down 1254 01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:08,280 Speaker 3: to one shot, you'll always be able to get your 1255 01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:12,040 Speaker 3: one shot off with Luca and Kyrie in the backcourt. 1256 01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:17,639 Speaker 3: And that's what we're seeing right now. And it's gonna 1257 01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:18,840 Speaker 3: be a good finish. 1258 01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:20,599 Speaker 1: Okay, yes it will. 1259 01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:24,920 Speaker 2: But it is one of my favorite American cities going 1260 01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:29,479 Speaker 2: on another ride. I'll explain coming up next. I mean, 1261 01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:32,960 Speaker 2: everything changed, everything changed, just in an instant. We're sitting 1262 01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:35,200 Speaker 2: here talking sports. I want to throw some stuff at 1263 01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,559 Speaker 2: you that I think you're really really going to relate 1264 01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:38,160 Speaker 2: to e from. 1265 01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:40,120 Speaker 1: And we've got plenty of time. 1266 01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:43,479 Speaker 2: We've got all our because we're broadcasting live from the 1267 01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:48,360 Speaker 2: tire dot Cobb will help you get there on unmatched selection, 1268 01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:53,000 Speaker 2: factory shipping, free road hazard protection in over ten thousand 1269 01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:56,680 Speaker 2: recommended installers, tyreck dot com the way tire buding should be. 1270 01:20:57,120 --> 01:21:00,880 Speaker 2: But I'm distracted because I just had what I think 1271 01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:07,080 Speaker 2: is the most post COVID conversation that I've ever engaged 1272 01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:12,240 Speaker 2: in in my entire life. Eve from how long have 1273 01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:15,880 Speaker 2: we been doing Fox Sports Radio? 1274 01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:17,759 Speaker 1: Oh huh. 1275 01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:26,040 Speaker 2: Right a minute, yeah, a minute. You and I are 1276 01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:27,519 Speaker 2: on what like our third tour? 1277 01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:30,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, decade war. 1278 01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:33,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we used to, we used to before the 1279 01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:35,640 Speaker 2: world And I still don't know if this is a 1280 01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:38,280 Speaker 2: good thing or not. But the world is gone and 1281 01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:42,080 Speaker 2: figured out how to do everything remotely from home. Baby, 1282 01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:45,639 Speaker 2: I mean, the world figured it out. I can remember 1283 01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:50,040 Speaker 2: when I started at Fox Sports Radio and our fearless leader, 1284 01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:53,320 Speaker 2: Scott Shapiro was like, we're really looking for people who 1285 01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:56,960 Speaker 2: can kind of, you know, like anchor our studio and 1286 01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:58,160 Speaker 2: be here on the daily. 1287 01:21:58,200 --> 01:21:58,960 Speaker 1: And I was doing. 1288 01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:01,679 Speaker 2: I was doing Saturdays and Sundays, and I was there 1289 01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:05,200 Speaker 2: every single weekend and everything, and then COVID hit and 1290 01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:07,800 Speaker 2: you know, I hope I'm not bringing everybody behind the 1291 01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:08,719 Speaker 2: curtain too much. 1292 01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:10,840 Speaker 1: But we've talked about it before. These hosts. 1293 01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:14,479 Speaker 2: Everybody you're hearing throughout the day is all over the 1294 01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:15,200 Speaker 2: damn place. 1295 01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:18,959 Speaker 1: Well I'm not, no, you're not. I'm in the studio, 1296 01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:22,080 Speaker 1: but it's almost like Ben should be. It's like Ben. 1297 01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:25,880 Speaker 2: Mallers says every night during the week in the air everywhere. 1298 01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:31,160 Speaker 2: We are all over of the place, to the point 1299 01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:36,280 Speaker 2: where certain members of the staff and the group that 1300 01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:42,040 Speaker 2: all work together, especially the supporting group, because there's a 1301 01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:46,799 Speaker 2: little bit more youth and turnover in that group. Steve 1302 01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:49,679 Speaker 2: de Seger, I've been known for a long long time 1303 01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:53,519 Speaker 2: e from Salaam, been knowing you for a long long time. 1304 01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:57,400 Speaker 2: But our support group is in a room and we 1305 01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:02,040 Speaker 2: text and we talk and we email, and we. 1306 01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:03,479 Speaker 1: Never met each other in person. 1307 01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:10,719 Speaker 2: So we're just about to come back like it's almost 1308 01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:14,920 Speaker 2: no time, and there usually I get that that little 1309 01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:19,880 Speaker 2: whisper in my ear Mike's hot, and instead this time, 1310 01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:25,559 Speaker 2: this time, I get wait a minute, you're white. 1311 01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:34,120 Speaker 3: Hilarious. I don't know where you were going with that, man, 1312 01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:34,920 Speaker 3: that is. 1313 01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:39,120 Speaker 2: I have no idea what to do with this statement. 1314 01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:43,120 Speaker 2: I'm like, my mind is racing. There are a hundred 1315 01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:47,200 Speaker 2: ways I could answer this. I haven't even confirmed it 1316 01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:50,360 Speaker 2: to her yet, Like I'm just I'm still like, how 1317 01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:52,720 Speaker 2: I can hear his laughter in the background. 1318 01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:56,280 Speaker 1: I'm laughing at Mary. I'm shocked as you are right now. Mark, 1319 01:23:56,479 --> 01:24:00,479 Speaker 1: I'm like, how do you ate from how supposed to 1320 01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:03,240 Speaker 1: answer that? Yes? 1321 01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:11,559 Speaker 9: Yes, con firm this entire time my defense and my 1322 01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:15,200 Speaker 9: defense because here through the speaker, I'm thinking, Wow, we 1323 01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:17,200 Speaker 9: have two black people on the show. 1324 01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:18,240 Speaker 1: It's so great. 1325 01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:20,479 Speaker 6: And I went on Twitter because I was going to 1326 01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:24,040 Speaker 6: make a tweet and I saw his you know, Twitter handle, 1327 01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:27,200 Speaker 6: and I pressed it. I hit the media. I hit 1328 01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:29,720 Speaker 6: the media, and I see a white man talking. I'm like, 1329 01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:30,680 Speaker 6: this entire. 1330 01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:33,160 Speaker 1: Time, that's a white man there. It's a white man, 1331 01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:36,960 Speaker 1: a white man. I feels so like I am brought. 1332 01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:39,960 Speaker 2: I thought I tried to send you a message four 1333 01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:43,400 Speaker 2: weeks ago, when you were explaining to me everything about 1334 01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:45,400 Speaker 2: Drake and Kendrick. 1335 01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:49,360 Speaker 1: I thought that was just age were the same age. 1336 01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:53,000 Speaker 1: We're the same age. What are you talking about? I 1337 01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:55,640 Speaker 1: was trying to be like, I know, but I don't know. No. 1338 01:24:57,080 --> 01:24:58,200 Speaker 1: I thought that was enough. 1339 01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:00,000 Speaker 7: That was it was. 1340 01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:03,960 Speaker 1: Because Rob didn't know about it. I was like, okay, 1341 01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:08,040 Speaker 1: can I do right? 1342 01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:12,960 Speaker 2: Don't put me on Rob's a god this. Neither one 1343 01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:15,920 Speaker 2: of us have turned fifty yet. Don't ask me again 1344 01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:18,040 Speaker 2: this year, next year at this time. But I have 1345 01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:22,519 Speaker 2: not turned you ask me. I know, I can remind 1346 01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:30,040 Speaker 2: me every week anyway. Yes, confirmed, by the way, not not. 1347 01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:31,360 Speaker 1: Not the first time that this has happened. 1348 01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:33,240 Speaker 3: Because you haven't. You got that timber in your voice, 1349 01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:36,840 Speaker 3: a little soul in your voice. Man, you know, listen, 1350 01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:39,960 Speaker 3: you can get down into the lower hey, hey. 1351 01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:43,840 Speaker 1: Hey, look, look, look, if you want us to, if 1352 01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:44,519 Speaker 1: you want to have a. 1353 01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:49,160 Speaker 3: Conversation and have a brilliant. 1354 01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:51,400 Speaker 2: Manhattan on the rocks, we can have this conversation if 1355 01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:52,439 Speaker 2: you want, we can do. 1356 01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:54,800 Speaker 1: That brilliant Yeah. I did. 1357 01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:57,120 Speaker 2: Now, listen, there was a time there was a time 1358 01:25:57,160 --> 01:26:00,439 Speaker 2: in in uh in my radio career or where I 1359 01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:04,400 Speaker 2: you know, like before all of the digital content and 1360 01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:07,599 Speaker 2: the podcast and everything, like nobody knew what the hell 1361 01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:11,400 Speaker 2: we looked like. And I'd write, right, there was no 1362 01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:16,080 Speaker 2: what it's like Twitter and none of this YouTube not happening, 1363 01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:19,439 Speaker 2: and I'd run into people and I would get one 1364 01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:22,599 Speaker 2: of four things, sometimes all of them at the same time. 1365 01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:26,680 Speaker 2: They're like, I thought you were older, I thought you 1366 01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:31,439 Speaker 2: were fatter, I thought you were balder, and I thought 1367 01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:34,599 Speaker 2: you were blacker. Those are those are the four I 1368 01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:36,040 Speaker 2: got everywhere I went. 1369 01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:40,560 Speaker 7: Quiller that if I'm a quote Mary. 1370 01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:43,120 Speaker 1: Another white man here on Fox Sports Radio, Yes, steez, 1371 01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:50,320 Speaker 1: there you go. 1372 01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:52,920 Speaker 8: It's like, just quote my coworker here. 1373 01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:54,320 Speaker 1: What have you done? 1374 01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:55,760 Speaker 8: Mark Willard. 1375 01:26:57,800 --> 01:26:58,599 Speaker 1: Oh Man? 1376 01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:03,400 Speaker 2: Yes, going back to uh uh, you'll you'll get the reference, Steve, 1377 01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:06,080 Speaker 2: going all the way back to the great Richard Pryor 1378 01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:07,120 Speaker 2: and Gene Wilder. 1379 01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:11,360 Speaker 11: You mean I'm not white Man's funny. I thought you were. 1380 01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:16,640 Speaker 11: I really thought you were down with the brows. You know, 1381 01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:20,559 Speaker 11: I don't know who who Hey, who said I'm not? Oh, 1382 01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:21,160 Speaker 11: come on. 1383 01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:23,880 Speaker 1: Get to come to the he get to come to 1384 01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:27,720 Speaker 1: the cookout. Thank you, thank you from you get to 1385 01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:30,160 Speaker 1: come to the cookout. Don't worry about bringing anything. That 1386 01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:32,320 Speaker 1: one of those type of situations. 1387 01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:37,160 Speaker 6: You just have to bring the slippers, have to. 1388 01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:39,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring the I'm gonna bring the lowry season salt. 1389 01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:44,080 Speaker 3: Don't you have to worry about nothing to just come 1390 01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:46,080 Speaker 3: and enjoy the food and the festivities. 1391 01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:51,639 Speaker 1: Can you electric shuffle? Can you electric? It's it's happened. 1392 01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:52,679 Speaker 1: It's happened. 1393 01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:57,040 Speaker 2: There's been a minute, but it's happened, and I will 1394 01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:58,160 Speaker 2: I'll leave it at that. 1395 01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:02,960 Speaker 1: So anyway, it's a whole new world and the show 1396 01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:06,080 Speaker 1: must go on. It must go on. Nine four left 1397 01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:08,120 Speaker 1: in the game. Yes, tied up. 1398 01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:13,559 Speaker 2: We are tied with the incredibly frustrating Speaking of being 1399 01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:19,400 Speaker 2: hoodwinked Minnesota Tebrawolves, who like normally, I think this is 1400 01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:21,559 Speaker 2: kind of a thing when you're a fan of a team, 1401 01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:24,639 Speaker 2: When you're a fan of a team, you know your 1402 01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:27,559 Speaker 2: players better than everybody else, so you've got that like 1403 01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:31,559 Speaker 2: love hate relationship with them because they frustrate you. 1404 01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:33,400 Speaker 1: There, they're bad moments frustrate you. 1405 01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:40,000 Speaker 2: I'm I'm not a fan of Minnesota sports. I have 1406 01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:42,400 Speaker 2: no I've been there once. Other than that, I have 1407 01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:47,680 Speaker 2: no attachment to these teams. But I'm like I'm like mad. 1408 01:28:47,439 --> 01:28:49,519 Speaker 1: At all the wolves for the way they play. 1409 01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:54,720 Speaker 2: I want Carl Anthony Towns to stop treating the three 1410 01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:59,640 Speaker 2: point line like it's a brick wall. Like do you 1411 01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:02,360 Speaker 2: remember the movie Field of Dreams? Do you remember that movie? 1412 01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:05,520 Speaker 2: Remember the little remember that little strip of rocks. 1413 01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:09,320 Speaker 1: That like, build it right, they will come. Like you you. 1414 01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:12,880 Speaker 2: Couldn't walk across that little strip of rocks or else 1415 01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:15,519 Speaker 2: you couldn't. You couldn't go back, You couldn't be a 1416 01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:19,240 Speaker 2: ghost anymore. In other words, call Anthony town streets the 1417 01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:22,120 Speaker 2: three point line like that, Like if he goes in there, 1418 01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:24,360 Speaker 2: he's not gonna be allowed to come back out. 1419 01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:28,280 Speaker 1: Why does he settle for so many three on the 1420 01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:32,240 Speaker 1: block and put somebody in the rim? Why why does 1421 01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:37,680 Speaker 1: he do that? I don't know, I don't know. I 1422 01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:41,000 Speaker 1: don't know. Oh for six, put your body on the block. 1423 01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:45,679 Speaker 1: Put somebody in the rim, Oh for six from three 1424 01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:48,040 Speaker 1: point range? Tonight for uh for call. 1425 01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:54,040 Speaker 3: Here, he's gonna keep shooting, all right, it's it's an 1426 01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:56,479 Speaker 3: ant man time. It's eight minutes left in the fourth, 1427 01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:59,760 Speaker 3: you're down by one, nas reed, put somebody in the 1428 01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:02,760 Speaker 3: rim right there? How about that? The real big man 1429 01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:08,200 Speaker 3: as sits on the bit. Oh yeah, absolutely year. He's 1430 01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:12,200 Speaker 3: a stone cow killer, and uh, you know, I love him, man. 1431 01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:14,320 Speaker 3: I love the way he plays. I love the energy 1432 01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:20,559 Speaker 3: he brings. Kyrie is good luck man. Good look. 1433 01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:22,719 Speaker 1: You know what's crazy about nas Reed? 1434 01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:29,840 Speaker 2: Nas Red looks every bit of like forty five years 1435 01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:30,719 Speaker 2: old guy. 1436 01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:34,639 Speaker 1: At the part. Yeah he got some old school flair 1437 01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:40,120 Speaker 1: to him. Right, he's got that look to him. Release that. Yeah, 1438 01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:42,960 Speaker 1: he's been in the league since oh two, that guy 1439 01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:46,640 Speaker 1: he's twenty four. Wow, I didn't even know that. 1440 01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:52,920 Speaker 2: Wow, he's twenty four years old, Batman right there, Like 1441 01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:55,880 Speaker 2: I I think he is such a fan. 1442 01:30:56,040 --> 01:30:59,040 Speaker 1: But he's the most underrated player in the league. Right, Well, 1443 01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:00,960 Speaker 1: he's not that underrated because he's the six minute of 1444 01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:04,360 Speaker 1: the year. So but I mean that recognition just showed up, right. 1445 01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:06,800 Speaker 3: But I tell you what, he's the actual glue to 1446 01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:09,880 Speaker 3: the team, right And anybody who watches this team and 1447 01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:12,840 Speaker 3: can tell from his energy and the way, you know, 1448 01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:16,519 Speaker 3: the guys respond to the way he plays in his effort, 1449 01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:17,519 Speaker 3: they understand it. 1450 01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:20,160 Speaker 1: He is the glue to the team. Yeah, you got 1451 01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:21,639 Speaker 1: the superstar, Yeah. 1452 01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:24,679 Speaker 3: You got the defensive player of the year, But now 1453 01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:29,599 Speaker 3: you have a guy who is dependable and will show up, 1454 01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:33,439 Speaker 3: doesn't need plays to be run for him, and he's 1455 01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:38,120 Speaker 3: just you know, attacking, attacking, attacking, And I love that 1456 01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:40,880 Speaker 3: his mindset is he'll hit you in the face with 1457 01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:43,240 Speaker 3: the three, but then he'll pump fake you and then 1458 01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:44,680 Speaker 3: he gonna try to put you in the rim. And 1459 01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:45,479 Speaker 3: I love that. 1460 01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:49,280 Speaker 2: It's just playing fantastic and he is often in a 1461 01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:52,320 Speaker 2: lot of these playoff games, look like the only one 1462 01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:55,920 Speaker 2: that has the correct amount of aggressiveness. 1463 01:31:55,920 --> 01:31:56,760 Speaker 1: That's show. 1464 01:31:57,600 --> 01:32:02,240 Speaker 2: So all right, Minnesota's taking a brief lead here. We 1465 01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:04,000 Speaker 2: will keep you up to date as we come down 1466 01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:06,400 Speaker 2: the stretch. And speaking of Minnesota, and this is the 1467 01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:08,479 Speaker 2: thing that I know you're going to relate to because 1468 01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:11,639 Speaker 2: you were on one of the teams that caused this 1469 01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:15,200 Speaker 2: to happen to the city of Minneapolis. But we got 1470 01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:17,840 Speaker 2: to get into this here shortly after the show, the 1471 01:32:17,880 --> 01:32:20,599 Speaker 2: podcast is going up. If you missed any of today's show, 1472 01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:24,280 Speaker 2: be sure to check out the podcast. Just shirts Fox 1473 01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:27,680 Speaker 2: Sports Radio wherever you get your podcast. Be sure to 1474 01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:30,759 Speaker 2: follow and rate and review the podcast so you don't 1475 01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:31,600 Speaker 2: miss anymore. 1476 01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:34,160 Speaker 1: Again. Just search Fox Sports. 1477 01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:36,400 Speaker 2: Radio wherever you get your podcast, and you will see 1478 01:32:36,439 --> 01:32:39,160 Speaker 2: this show posted right after we get off the air. 1479 01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:41,479 Speaker 2: But we're nowhere near done with e from Salam. I'm 1480 01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:44,080 Speaker 2: Mark Willard and this is Fox Sports Radio. 1481 01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:47,679 Speaker 1: Yeah they can. 1482 01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:56,000 Speaker 2: Live tyrec dot Com Studios, Ebony and Ivory tonight here 1483 01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:59,360 Speaker 2: in the Fox Sports Radio Studio. 1484 01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:02,040 Speaker 3: Unlike the Jill Episcopal Eddie Murphy version. 1485 01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:10,120 Speaker 2: But while we're having fun, we've got a very unfun 1486 01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:12,840 Speaker 2: thing to report. We've got some breaking news. Do we 1487 01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:14,360 Speaker 2: want to have Steve jump on in here? 1488 01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:19,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't break news. Steve breaks news. 1489 01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:22,759 Speaker 7: Well, it's an injury guys in the Braves game today 1490 01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:25,080 Speaker 7: and it's official from the team that last year's n 1491 01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:28,839 Speaker 7: L MVP Ronald Acunya is out for the year. Tonight, 1492 01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:32,160 Speaker 7: he underwent an MRI that revealed a complete tear of 1493 01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:35,400 Speaker 7: the ACL in his left knee. He's due to undergo 1494 01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:38,320 Speaker 7: surgery at a future date. He will miss the rest 1495 01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:41,080 Speaker 7: of the twenty twenty four season. He was hurt on 1496 01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:43,960 Speaker 7: the base pass where he started to run and stopped 1497 01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:46,640 Speaker 7: and the knee buckled. He thought he would only be 1498 01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:49,320 Speaker 7: out say a month. It reminded him of an injury 1499 01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:52,559 Speaker 7: he had about six years ago. The team itself has 1500 01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:55,920 Speaker 7: just released in recent minutes he's out for the year. 1501 01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:59,200 Speaker 7: Talking about Ronald Acunya, who last year led the league 1502 01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:03,400 Speaker 7: in runs, in hits and it on base percentage and 1503 01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:04,639 Speaker 7: was MVP of the league. 1504 01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:08,439 Speaker 1: Second torn ACL for him. 1505 01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:10,920 Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, yeah, there was the outfield injury too. 1506 01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:14,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty twenty one, same same leg or different one 1507 01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:15,280 Speaker 2: this time? 1508 01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:17,519 Speaker 1: Well, he says, is this right or left? 1509 01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:17,960 Speaker 9: Uh? 1510 01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:20,320 Speaker 8: You know, I do not remember what that was? 1511 01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:24,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty one? Yeah, okay, so that's the other one. Yeah, 1512 01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:26,160 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one was the right. 1513 01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:28,360 Speaker 7: But he said he's been here a pop today, so 1514 01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:30,320 Speaker 7: he thought it wouldn't be like a couple of years ago. 1515 01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:32,360 Speaker 8: But the team says, no, no, out for the year. 1516 01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:37,240 Speaker 2: Goodes, Oh, that one's brutal. 1517 01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:38,559 Speaker 1: That one's brutal. 1518 01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:43,120 Speaker 2: Ronald mccunya torn ACL on the other side, and. 1519 01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:49,040 Speaker 1: Gosh, how old is he? Ronald kcunye is still still 1520 01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:53,479 Speaker 1: pretty young, pretty young man, twenty six years old. 1521 01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:59,240 Speaker 2: And both acls are going to be totally reconstructed. I mean, 1522 01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:02,000 Speaker 2: just being in the NFL as long as you you have. 1523 01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:08,080 Speaker 2: How do you think that affects his future? Not very 1524 01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:15,840 Speaker 2: much really, Yeah, no, No, he'll be fine. He'll be fine. 1525 01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:22,360 Speaker 2: Baseball is just a different situation. He'll be fine. A 1526 01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:25,760 Speaker 2: c ls aren't what they used to be, right, So 1527 01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:30,280 Speaker 2: think about it like this, remember uh Adrian Peterson nine 1528 01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:33,519 Speaker 2: months after he tours a cl he'd rushed for two 1529 01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:35,080 Speaker 2: thousand yards in the NFL. 1530 01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:39,240 Speaker 1: He'll he'll be fine playing. 1531 01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:43,400 Speaker 3: Baseball around the bases by himself. 1532 01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:47,280 Speaker 1: But you know he has to turn in that. Oh 1533 01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:48,200 Speaker 1: he'll be fine. 1534 01:35:48,320 --> 01:35:51,400 Speaker 3: It's not like he has he doesn't have to get 1535 01:35:51,439 --> 01:35:53,559 Speaker 3: a goat leg or something like that. 1536 01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:57,000 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you act like you're not using him, 1537 01:35:57,080 --> 01:35:57,559 Speaker 1: and he's. 1538 01:35:57,960 --> 01:36:01,640 Speaker 3: He's using them, but there is no there's no stopping 1539 01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:03,639 Speaker 3: change direction and speaking. 1540 01:36:04,240 --> 01:36:06,040 Speaker 1: I'm trying to I'm not trying to compare him to 1541 01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:06,639 Speaker 1: a running back. 1542 01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:09,840 Speaker 3: But so what I'm telling you is it the surgeries 1543 01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:13,639 Speaker 3: that they have now, and it's a lot different than 1544 01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:15,960 Speaker 3: it used to be. A c O is not a 1545 01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:19,080 Speaker 3: death sentence like it would Michael faster fractures used to 1546 01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:21,559 Speaker 3: be a death sentence, a CLS, all of those things, 1547 01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:26,160 Speaker 3: it's not the case anymore. What about achilles, that's still 1548 01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:28,519 Speaker 3: not Look at KD, it's still not what it used 1549 01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:33,800 Speaker 3: to be. Medical technology has made the healing and the 1550 01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:42,760 Speaker 3: recovery process, uh, faster and better and that I mean, 1551 01:36:42,760 --> 01:36:45,360 Speaker 3: that's just what it is. So he'll be fine. 1552 01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:50,760 Speaker 2: I'm watching this game, as are you. They're tied with 1553 01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:55,880 Speaker 2: just under four to go Amore and bang right. So okay, 1554 01:36:55,920 --> 01:36:57,600 Speaker 2: now it's a three point lead for the Maps at 1555 01:36:57,640 --> 01:37:00,479 Speaker 2: one O seven, one four. There's some intensity going on here. 1556 01:37:00,520 --> 01:37:03,240 Speaker 2: This is a really good watch right now. But here's 1557 01:37:03,280 --> 01:37:06,479 Speaker 2: why I was thinking about this right now. You know, 1558 01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:11,759 Speaker 2: we sat here last Sunday and the Minnesota Timberwolves rallied 1559 01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:15,360 Speaker 2: and defeated the champs. They defeated the Denver Nuggets, and 1560 01:37:15,439 --> 01:37:19,960 Speaker 2: in that moment, many of us thought that team's gonna 1561 01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:23,240 Speaker 2: win at all because we like right and we like 1562 01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:25,360 Speaker 2: who's coming out of the West. Like Boston was still 1563 01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:28,640 Speaker 2: the favorite, largely because we all pretty much knew they 1564 01:37:28,680 --> 01:37:30,160 Speaker 2: were going to be there, and they are going to 1565 01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:35,960 Speaker 2: be there so pretty much. So therefore you look at 1566 01:37:35,960 --> 01:37:38,840 Speaker 2: Minnesota and you go, gosh, they're so battle tested. I 1567 01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:43,160 Speaker 2: like them to come out of the West spotlight that moment. 1568 01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:47,720 Speaker 2: I've just been thinking about this late lately. Minneapolis has 1569 01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:50,000 Speaker 2: got to be the city. I'm trying to think of 1570 01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:56,920 Speaker 2: one that has teased their fans more than the city 1571 01:37:57,479 --> 01:38:00,559 Speaker 2: of Minneapolis, which is I've only been there and I 1572 01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:03,600 Speaker 2: loved it. Great city, great people in that area of 1573 01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:07,880 Speaker 2: the country every time I go there. But you are 1574 01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:10,120 Speaker 2: the owner, by the way of one of these upsets. 1575 01:38:10,120 --> 01:38:12,560 Speaker 3: As you know, watched it yesterday. It was on the 1576 01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:14,479 Speaker 3: NFL network. Greatest was it? 1577 01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:14,920 Speaker 1: Yep? 1578 01:38:15,120 --> 01:38:20,040 Speaker 3: Me, my family, my boys sat down on my food food. 1579 01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:22,520 Speaker 3: It was just on and so you know, my boys 1580 01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:25,240 Speaker 3: never really have seen me play football. They were in 1581 01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:29,200 Speaker 3: there watching all of six minutes like, oh wow, look 1582 01:38:29,200 --> 01:38:30,080 Speaker 3: at you look so young? 1583 01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:33,599 Speaker 1: You okay? And the we're gone taking care less? 1584 01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:35,760 Speaker 3: How long did you stick with it? I'll watched the 1585 01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:39,920 Speaker 3: whole thing, ohole game I watched. You know what I realized, 1586 01:38:40,280 --> 01:38:43,400 Speaker 3: and this is a great segue. You know what I 1587 01:38:43,439 --> 01:38:46,400 Speaker 3: realized watching that game, me being twenty two years old, 1588 01:38:46,720 --> 01:38:52,840 Speaker 3: rookie in the league and the biggest game in franchise history, yes, 1589 01:38:54,080 --> 01:39:01,640 Speaker 3: both franchises and the ebbs and flows of that game. Ever, 1590 01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:04,880 Speaker 3: people ask me like, how do you keep going? Like 1591 01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:10,000 Speaker 3: how do you always find yourself? You know, whatever you're doing. 1592 01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:13,439 Speaker 3: You know, the level of success I've had in my 1593 01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:15,680 Speaker 3: career and the things I've decided to do. 1594 01:39:17,640 --> 01:39:21,280 Speaker 1: So much pressure comes with that, and I always say, 1595 01:39:21,960 --> 01:39:23,240 Speaker 1: this is not real pressure. 1596 01:39:24,439 --> 01:39:29,960 Speaker 3: And watching that game made me realize thirty something years later, 1597 01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:38,479 Speaker 3: why I don't feel pressure in other situations. If you 1598 01:39:38,520 --> 01:39:41,720 Speaker 3: know anything about that game, the way it was played out, 1599 01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:48,160 Speaker 3: I Meanesota Minnesota was the highest scoring offense, it was 1600 01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:50,080 Speaker 3: best at fifteen to one. I mean, they were everything 1601 01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:53,960 Speaker 3: Randy Moster's rookie year, my rookie year, and being there, 1602 01:39:53,960 --> 01:39:58,080 Speaker 3: they had the loudest stadium on the planet Earth in Minnesota, 1603 01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:03,800 Speaker 3: and and we had no snap count and I was 1604 01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:07,479 Speaker 3: one on one as a rookie right tackle, which oh, 1605 01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:12,120 Speaker 3: by the way, I played left tackle in college, going 1606 01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:21,400 Speaker 3: up against the vaunted Minnesota Vikings defense, and like quarter 1607 01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:25,360 Speaker 3: after quarter it got more intense and more intense. We 1608 01:40:25,439 --> 01:40:27,559 Speaker 3: needed to come down and score. It was two minutes 1609 01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:30,200 Speaker 3: left in the game. We needed to score touchdown to 1610 01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:32,880 Speaker 3: tie it up, and I'm just thinking, I was like. 1611 01:40:32,920 --> 01:40:35,639 Speaker 1: That's pressure, that's pressure. 1612 01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:38,080 Speaker 3: And then when we tied it up we needed to 1613 01:40:38,120 --> 01:40:42,240 Speaker 3: score in overtime, I'm like, that's pressure. That Just imagine 1614 01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:46,320 Speaker 3: the level of pressure that is for kid, for kid 1615 01:40:46,360 --> 01:40:48,400 Speaker 3: who was a year ago playing in college. 1616 01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:50,760 Speaker 2: So so in other words, what you're saying is you 1617 01:40:50,840 --> 01:40:55,240 Speaker 2: started there like that was that was the baseline for 1618 01:40:55,280 --> 01:40:56,200 Speaker 2: your NFL career. 1619 01:40:56,280 --> 01:40:59,160 Speaker 1: Yes, so everything after that felt easy. 1620 01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:02,720 Speaker 3: I will but you know what, I was the offensive 1621 01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:05,080 Speaker 3: player of the game. I have a game ball at 1622 01:41:05,120 --> 01:41:07,599 Speaker 3: home for that, And at the time, I was like, well, 1623 01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:14,280 Speaker 3: Chris Chandler played great in terms, but understanding each moment 1624 01:41:14,360 --> 01:41:17,519 Speaker 3: of that game where I was playing my butt off 1625 01:41:18,240 --> 01:41:22,880 Speaker 3: and actually competing at a high level and doing what 1626 01:41:22,920 --> 01:41:25,800 Speaker 3: I was supposed to do at that age coming out 1627 01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:29,160 Speaker 3: of college. I get it now thirty year, thirties plus 1628 01:41:29,240 --> 01:41:34,759 Speaker 3: years later, I get why they gave me the game 1629 01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:38,719 Speaker 3: ball for that, because that would be crazy to ask 1630 01:41:38,720 --> 01:41:39,920 Speaker 3: the kid to do that right now. 1631 01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:43,080 Speaker 1: Uh huh. You'd be like, I don't know, man, we 1632 01:41:43,080 --> 01:41:44,559 Speaker 1: got to send some help over there or something. 1633 01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:49,120 Speaker 3: That's a lot a lot, And that's where we were, 1634 01:41:50,439 --> 01:41:55,400 Speaker 3: and it was like I was, I'm like, man, I 1635 01:41:55,400 --> 01:41:59,679 Speaker 3: can't believe I did it. I was shocked. I was shocked. 1636 01:41:59,680 --> 01:42:03,479 Speaker 3: I was I'm sitting at forty eight, forty seven years old, like, man, 1637 01:42:03,520 --> 01:42:06,240 Speaker 3: I did that. That's pretty good. But that's when my 1638 01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:09,760 Speaker 3: career started. Being in that type of situation. It was like, 1639 01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:11,800 Speaker 3: oh yeah, he got it, He got it all. 1640 01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:12,240 Speaker 1: Well. 1641 01:42:12,320 --> 01:42:14,479 Speaker 3: You know, Randy and I both made the All Rookie team. 1642 01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:18,240 Speaker 3: Like it was just one of those situations where you know, 1643 01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:21,479 Speaker 3: the cream rose to the top there and I got 1644 01:42:21,479 --> 01:42:25,040 Speaker 3: a chance to really submit myself as a starter in 1645 01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:27,639 Speaker 3: this league in my rookie year. 1646 01:42:29,520 --> 01:42:34,040 Speaker 2: There's a lot more to say on this conversation, but 1647 01:42:34,840 --> 01:42:39,280 Speaker 2: everything that you just said to me about pressure, the Falcons, 1648 01:42:39,960 --> 01:42:44,200 Speaker 2: the NFL, all of this stuff, I think it pales 1649 01:42:44,240 --> 01:42:47,280 Speaker 2: in comparison to what Steve de Seger is facing right now. 1650 01:42:47,760 --> 01:42:50,360 Speaker 1: You want to talk about pressure, Let's see how he 1651 01:42:50,439 --> 01:42:51,639 Speaker 1: does well. 1652 01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:54,920 Speaker 7: We will start by quoting our boss. We're gonna do okay. 1653 01:42:54,960 --> 01:42:59,519 Speaker 7: Mark Willick his Minnesota Timberwolves are one round away from 1654 01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:02,360 Speaker 7: the final. You talked about media markets that are kind 1655 01:43:02,360 --> 01:43:06,400 Speaker 7: of teasing their sports fans. Minnesota might be near the 1656 01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:09,760 Speaker 7: top of that list because and he's tweeted this out, 1657 01:43:09,880 --> 01:43:14,840 Speaker 7: not just this year. As for cities that have all 1658 01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:19,000 Speaker 7: four major sports, Minnesota Minneapolis Saint Paul being one of them, 1659 01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:22,880 Speaker 7: they have by far the longest current title drought since 1660 01:43:22,920 --> 01:43:25,120 Speaker 7: the nineteen ninety one Twins won the World Series with 1661 01:43:25,200 --> 01:43:28,720 Speaker 7: Jack Robarris. It's not only that he says Minnesota has 1662 01:43:28,760 --> 01:43:31,320 Speaker 7: not had a team even make it to the finals 1663 01:43:31,360 --> 01:43:34,200 Speaker 7: in its sport in the four major sports since the 1664 01:43:34,280 --> 01:43:38,360 Speaker 7: nineteen ninety one World Series, and in that stretch of decades, 1665 01:43:38,479 --> 01:43:42,839 Speaker 7: the La Areas had nineteen teams in finals, Boston's had twenty, 1666 01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:46,320 Speaker 7: New York's had twenty three teams in finals since nineteen 1667 01:43:46,439 --> 01:43:50,160 Speaker 7: ninety one, Minnesota none. And they had the first two 1668 01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:52,479 Speaker 7: games of this series at home and lost them both 1669 01:43:52,520 --> 01:43:55,960 Speaker 7: to Dallas. They were down twelve at Dallas in Game 1670 01:43:56,040 --> 01:43:58,439 Speaker 7: three tonight in the first half, took the lead late 1671 01:43:58,479 --> 01:44:01,559 Speaker 7: third quarter, but now it's Dallas in the lead, won 1672 01:44:01,640 --> 01:44:04,759 Speaker 7: eleven to one oh five over Minnesota with a minute 1673 01:44:04,760 --> 01:44:08,439 Speaker 7: to go. Luka Donsig thirty three points, Kyrie Irving with 1674 01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:12,040 Speaker 7: thirty one. Dallas shooting fifty five percent from the floor 1675 01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:16,280 Speaker 7: against Minnesota's normally good defense. Karl Anthony Towns fourteen points 1676 01:44:16,320 --> 01:44:19,559 Speaker 7: eleven rebounds for the Timberwolves. From three point range, he 1677 01:44:19,640 --> 01:44:23,720 Speaker 7: is zero for seven. Anthony Edwards twenty four points, including 1678 01:44:23,760 --> 01:44:27,000 Speaker 7: a poster dunk, but Minnesota is down six with a 1679 01:44:27,080 --> 01:44:29,680 Speaker 7: minute to go. Game fource at Dallas on Tuesday night 1680 01:44:30,000 --> 01:44:34,040 Speaker 7: in the NHL East Finals, Game four, Game three was 1681 01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:37,360 Speaker 7: in overtime, so Game four will be at Florida, with 1682 01:44:37,479 --> 01:44:39,960 Speaker 7: the Panthers now trailing the series two games to one 1683 01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:42,919 Speaker 7: because the Rangers last game had won in overtime. Rangers 1684 01:44:42,920 --> 01:44:46,520 Speaker 7: today won in ot at Florida, five to four. NASCAR's 1685 01:44:46,520 --> 01:44:49,200 Speaker 7: Coca Cola six hundred is on Fox TV, but due 1686 01:44:49,240 --> 01:44:51,280 Speaker 7: to a storm, it's in a weather delay right now. 1687 01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:54,519 Speaker 7: The red flag stoppage comes at about lap twoin fifty 1688 01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:57,200 Speaker 7: of the four hundred schedule. Christopher Bell in the lead, 1689 01:44:57,520 --> 01:45:02,280 Speaker 7: Brad Keslowski and second, William Is in third. Joseph Neugarden 1690 01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:04,720 Speaker 7: won the Indy five hundred after a four hour rain 1691 01:45:04,760 --> 01:45:07,400 Speaker 7: delay at the start. He won last year's race as well. 1692 01:45:07,760 --> 01:45:09,640 Speaker 7: Baseball in Saint Louis had about a two and a 1693 01:45:09,680 --> 01:45:11,920 Speaker 7: half hour rain delay at the start. The Cardinals, who 1694 01:45:11,960 --> 01:45:13,839 Speaker 7: won four in a row, are now leading the Cubs 1695 01:45:13,840 --> 01:45:16,760 Speaker 7: two nothing in the bottom of the third. Cleveland won 1696 01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:19,200 Speaker 7: its ninth straight game, five to four at the Angels. 1697 01:45:19,439 --> 01:45:22,320 Speaker 7: San Diego beat the Yankees five to two. Colorado over 1698 01:45:22,360 --> 01:45:25,679 Speaker 7: Philadelphia five two. Losing pitcher Ranger Suarez had been nine 1699 01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:29,240 Speaker 7: to zero. Cincinnati handed the Dodgers a fifth straight loss, 1700 01:45:29,240 --> 01:45:32,040 Speaker 7: four to one. Detroit with a three run homer bottom 1701 01:45:32,080 --> 01:45:35,679 Speaker 7: of the ninth beat Toronto fourteen to eleven, and Atlanta 1702 01:45:35,720 --> 01:45:38,720 Speaker 7: won eight one at Pittsburgh, winning pitcher Chris Slee eight 1703 01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:42,679 Speaker 7: and one. However, a Brave Star, Ronald Decunye was injured 1704 01:45:42,720 --> 01:45:45,280 Speaker 7: on the base Pats today. He is out for the year. 1705 01:45:45,360 --> 01:45:48,040 Speaker 7: The Braves announced this just in the last half hour. 1706 01:45:48,160 --> 01:45:51,719 Speaker 7: Torn acl complete tear in the left knee, the National 1707 01:45:51,800 --> 01:45:55,759 Speaker 7: League MVP from last year out for the season. Updating 1708 01:45:55,800 --> 01:45:58,919 Speaker 7: thirty seconds to go at Dallas Mavericks leading one thirteen, 1709 01:45:59,040 --> 01:46:01,760 Speaker 7: one oh five over Minnesota, trying to take a three 1710 01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:04,280 Speaker 7: games to non lead in the NBA's West Finals. 1711 01:46:04,280 --> 01:46:08,479 Speaker 2: Back to you, well, that was the best minute of 1712 01:46:08,640 --> 01:46:13,679 Speaker 2: Daniel Gaffert's career. This dude, hey man, wow, I mean 1713 01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:16,880 Speaker 2: I mean those two the end to end play, the 1714 01:46:16,920 --> 01:46:20,240 Speaker 2: block that he just had at one end, man, and 1715 01:46:20,560 --> 01:46:23,840 Speaker 2: and combine that with the lob finish at the other end. 1716 01:46:23,880 --> 01:46:25,719 Speaker 1: He ends up on the floor under. 1717 01:46:25,560 --> 01:46:29,000 Speaker 3: Na because he put the defensive player of the year 1718 01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:34,120 Speaker 3: in the rim. That's what you're supposed to do as 1719 01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:40,200 Speaker 3: a big you impose your will on the other team. 1720 01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:42,800 Speaker 7: And Gafford had barely played in the first half tonight, 1721 01:46:42,840 --> 01:46:45,639 Speaker 7: guys because of foul trouble. And remember Derek Lively went 1722 01:46:45,720 --> 01:46:47,559 Speaker 7: out tonight when he got k neat in the back 1723 01:46:47,600 --> 01:46:48,000 Speaker 7: of the head. 1724 01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:49,240 Speaker 8: But now one fourteen. 1725 01:46:49,920 --> 01:46:52,800 Speaker 3: I said in the first hour, the two best big 1726 01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:56,000 Speaker 3: men in this series are Gaffert and Lively, and they 1727 01:46:56,080 --> 01:46:59,680 Speaker 3: both play for Dallas, period. 1728 01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:01,679 Speaker 8: And they're now seven from three point right. 1729 01:47:01,920 --> 01:47:05,160 Speaker 3: And they make a fraction of what the other to make. 1730 01:47:05,560 --> 01:47:06,639 Speaker 3: How about that. 1731 01:47:08,360 --> 01:47:10,759 Speaker 1: It's a bad night for Karl Anthony Towns. 1732 01:47:10,760 --> 01:47:13,599 Speaker 10: Man, he what did I tell you that he got 1733 01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:15,240 Speaker 10: shot selections? 1734 01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:19,800 Speaker 1: Look, man, it's not that's not it. That's not it. Man. 1735 01:47:20,120 --> 01:47:24,240 Speaker 3: First of all, I can go I can go on forever. 1736 01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:30,520 Speaker 3: I'm just I'm not a fan of number one. How mentally, 1737 01:47:30,640 --> 01:47:37,240 Speaker 3: he's attacked the game, even in the the The Nugget series. 1738 01:47:38,479 --> 01:47:42,839 Speaker 3: You want to talk about someone who can't he can't 1739 01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:46,360 Speaker 3: stop himself from getting into foul trouble. So when he 1740 01:47:46,479 --> 01:47:50,760 Speaker 3: was guarding the joker thirty five feet away from the basket, 1741 01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:54,080 Speaker 3: and he would run up there and body check him 1742 01:47:54,840 --> 01:47:58,080 Speaker 3: and pick up an early foul one minute into the 1743 01:47:58,120 --> 01:48:04,720 Speaker 3: basketball game, consistently, I was like, bruh, dude, what is 1744 01:48:04,720 --> 01:48:05,639 Speaker 3: happening right now? 1745 01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:09,360 Speaker 1: Like he just can't get. 1746 01:48:09,240 --> 01:48:15,439 Speaker 3: It's the way you play physical but not goofy and 1747 01:48:16,360 --> 01:48:20,439 Speaker 3: him not playing in the post. He doesn't know what 1748 01:48:20,520 --> 01:48:25,680 Speaker 3: that is. He spends most of his time outside, like 1749 01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:30,760 Speaker 3: he just shot a three now air ball outside the 1750 01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:34,240 Speaker 3: three point arc. So asking him to be physical with 1751 01:48:34,320 --> 01:48:38,680 Speaker 3: another big it's like asking a guard to do it. 1752 01:48:39,120 --> 01:48:42,360 Speaker 3: He doesn't have the right mindset or mentality to do it. 1753 01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:46,799 Speaker 3: So him putting himself in foul trouble, poor shot selection. 1754 01:48:47,400 --> 01:48:52,800 Speaker 3: I can't with it. Anthony Edwards, we need you to Hey, buddy. 1755 01:48:52,479 --> 01:48:56,479 Speaker 1: Where are you? Yeah? Where are his shots? Now? 1756 01:48:56,600 --> 01:48:59,880 Speaker 2: The Gaffert block was on a drive of his that 1757 01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:03,160 Speaker 2: but but other than that, yeah, he held the block 1758 01:49:03,280 --> 01:49:05,360 Speaker 2: came off of Conley. 1759 01:49:06,320 --> 01:49:09,800 Speaker 1: That was That was kind of bad, my bad. I 1760 01:49:09,840 --> 01:49:12,600 Speaker 1: thought that was an no, that's not ant, which is 1761 01:49:12,640 --> 01:49:14,679 Speaker 1: the problem. That is a problem. 1762 01:49:15,040 --> 01:49:17,240 Speaker 3: If you're going to be him, if you're going to 1763 01:49:17,400 --> 01:49:20,160 Speaker 3: talk like you're him, if you want to become the 1764 01:49:20,160 --> 01:49:24,160 Speaker 3: face of a league, then you have to be him. 1765 01:49:24,880 --> 01:49:28,599 Speaker 1: Well you have to be in the finals. But got 1766 01:49:28,720 --> 01:49:31,960 Speaker 1: to get there first, right, That was my issue with it. 1767 01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:36,920 Speaker 2: The whole time is last weekend and I felt for 1768 01:49:37,000 --> 01:49:38,919 Speaker 2: the Trap last weekend. 1769 01:49:38,960 --> 01:49:43,120 Speaker 1: They won that game. And the conversation started. 1770 01:49:44,240 --> 01:49:49,080 Speaker 2: Anointing different people and teams and things, and and I 1771 01:49:49,120 --> 01:49:52,479 Speaker 2: get that, but they're now staring down the barrel of 1772 01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:57,160 Speaker 2: after that game, never winning another game again this year. 1773 01:49:58,200 --> 01:50:00,680 Speaker 1: That's that's crazy. Be wrapped up. 1774 01:50:01,240 --> 01:50:02,280 Speaker 8: It is a final tonight. 1775 01:50:02,680 --> 01:50:04,720 Speaker 7: Like last year, we have a couple series at three 1776 01:50:04,760 --> 01:50:07,160 Speaker 7: games to none at this point one sixteen, one oh 1777 01:50:07,200 --> 01:50:08,320 Speaker 7: seven Dallas Final. 1778 01:50:08,760 --> 01:50:11,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, so if the history of sports means anything, you 1779 01:50:11,200 --> 01:50:12,559 Speaker 2: can go ahead and print your ticket. 1780 01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:16,559 Speaker 3: No Madams lost after leading series three to oh, one 1781 01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:21,679 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty four and oh, and. 1782 01:50:21,600 --> 01:50:24,880 Speaker 2: I will venture to guess one hundred and fifty six 1783 01:50:24,920 --> 01:50:27,760 Speaker 2: and oh is pretty safe. And so the MAVs and 1784 01:50:27,800 --> 01:50:32,200 Speaker 2: the Celtics are highly highly likely, if not guaranteed. 1785 01:50:31,760 --> 01:50:33,719 Speaker 1: It's gonna get it over on vacation. 1786 01:50:33,800 --> 01:50:36,080 Speaker 3: Man, y'all go to a final and a heck of 1787 01:50:36,120 --> 01:50:39,320 Speaker 3: a run, Hey, Lakers would where you were last year 1788 01:50:39,680 --> 01:50:42,240 Speaker 3: against the Nuggets, right, made a heck of a run, 1789 01:50:42,680 --> 01:50:45,280 Speaker 3: got swept on about of there here we go. 1790 01:50:47,160 --> 01:50:50,120 Speaker 2: I just I do feel for the Minnesota fan because 1791 01:50:50,200 --> 01:50:53,920 Speaker 2: of the fact that it's not just hey, we haven't won, 1792 01:50:54,640 --> 01:50:58,719 Speaker 2: it's how many times they've basically gotten the warning shot 1793 01:50:58,840 --> 01:51:00,479 Speaker 2: of I think this the year. 1794 01:51:01,560 --> 01:51:03,280 Speaker 1: This is the year, and then it's not. 1795 01:51:03,880 --> 01:51:06,400 Speaker 2: It's not just the year that you your rookie year 1796 01:51:06,880 --> 01:51:10,200 Speaker 2: beat Randy Moss and Dante Culpeper in the Minnesota Vikings. 1797 01:51:10,240 --> 01:51:12,760 Speaker 2: Don't forget this is the only time I've ever been 1798 01:51:12,800 --> 01:51:16,320 Speaker 2: to Minnieapolis is uh. I went to the Super Bowl 1799 01:51:16,320 --> 01:51:22,920 Speaker 2: out there. When Nick Foles, Nick Foles went into Minnesota 1800 01:51:23,439 --> 01:51:26,799 Speaker 2: and beat them in the NFC Championship game, that city 1801 01:51:26,960 --> 01:51:31,320 Speaker 2: was ready to celebrate in their own building, with their 1802 01:51:31,400 --> 01:51:35,639 Speaker 2: own team and with Nick Foles as the quarterback. Everybody 1803 01:51:35,680 --> 01:51:38,679 Speaker 2: thought it was a done deal and they didn't even 1804 01:51:38,720 --> 01:51:42,760 Speaker 2: get there. And shades of that thinking and feeling the 1805 01:51:42,800 --> 01:51:46,759 Speaker 2: way we did last Sunday and to see them lose 1806 01:51:46,840 --> 01:51:51,479 Speaker 2: three straight since then is stunning, man, it really is. 1807 01:51:51,920 --> 01:51:59,880 Speaker 2: It's stunning, all right. More as we put the Fini 1808 01:52:00,120 --> 01:52:02,799 Speaker 2: she touches on this one. Get you ready for playing 1809 01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:05,120 Speaker 2: and Spaniard, get you ready for the. 1810 01:52:04,840 --> 01:52:06,639 Speaker 1: Dallas Boston NBA Finals. 1811 01:52:07,040 --> 01:52:09,880 Speaker 2: We're in the tire Rec dot Com Studios with e 1812 01:52:09,920 --> 01:52:14,679 Speaker 2: from Salam, Mark Willard, Fox Sports Radio livinthetire Rec dot 1813 01:52:14,680 --> 01:52:18,000 Speaker 2: Com Studios on Fox Sports Radio, Mark Willardy from Salam 1814 01:52:18,200 --> 01:52:20,400 Speaker 2: and we've been sitting here breaking down a game that 1815 01:52:20,439 --> 01:52:25,200 Speaker 2: we've been watching all evening long. But maybe actually now, ephrom, 1816 01:52:25,240 --> 01:52:30,000 Speaker 2: maybe now on TNT is the game we should actually 1817 01:52:30,040 --> 01:52:36,800 Speaker 2: be talking about. We still haven't gotten the like double triple, 1818 01:52:37,040 --> 01:52:43,080 Speaker 2: quadruple confirmation with regard to inside the NBA, but we've 1819 01:52:43,120 --> 01:52:44,719 Speaker 2: gotten everything that we need. 1820 01:52:45,280 --> 01:52:47,720 Speaker 1: Charles Barkley, speaking publicly. 1821 01:52:48,680 --> 01:52:52,800 Speaker 2: A few weeks ago, I said, look, in sports, things 1822 01:52:52,840 --> 01:53:00,360 Speaker 2: are they're unscripted, and they're constantly evolving. Players you love 1823 01:53:01,200 --> 01:53:04,200 Speaker 2: won't last forever, they're going to age out, whatever, So 1824 01:53:04,320 --> 01:53:09,439 Speaker 2: things are constantly changing. So therefore it's it's rare that 1825 01:53:09,600 --> 01:53:15,479 Speaker 2: in sports we end up missing things, having that feeling 1826 01:53:15,560 --> 01:53:22,040 Speaker 2: of loss. This inside the NBA crew and this show, 1827 01:53:22,880 --> 01:53:26,439 Speaker 2: this is in my opinion, it's going to be a 1828 01:53:26,760 --> 01:53:32,160 Speaker 2: real game changer when we don't have this anymore. 1829 01:53:34,160 --> 01:53:38,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's sad, man, it's sad. I love their takes, 1830 01:53:38,560 --> 01:53:43,640 Speaker 3: I love their candid conversations, and I love their relationship. 1831 01:53:43,720 --> 01:53:46,800 Speaker 3: That's the biggest thing. Some of the best players in 1832 01:53:46,840 --> 01:53:50,720 Speaker 3: the world were one of the best mediator hosts in 1833 01:53:50,760 --> 01:53:53,679 Speaker 3: the world talking about a game that we all love 1834 01:53:54,920 --> 01:53:57,600 Speaker 3: from a perspective of Hall of famers, I love that. 1835 01:53:57,760 --> 01:54:01,679 Speaker 3: I love their energy I love the fan and it's 1836 01:54:01,720 --> 01:54:05,400 Speaker 3: become part of the basketball season for. 1837 01:54:05,400 --> 01:54:09,680 Speaker 1: All of us. Tell you what I mean, there's a 1838 01:54:09,680 --> 01:54:12,559 Speaker 1: few things to say about it. I think you're spot on. 1839 01:54:12,840 --> 01:54:15,240 Speaker 1: It's it's unique, it's original. 1840 01:54:16,200 --> 01:54:18,960 Speaker 2: The way that the guys all talk to each other 1841 01:54:19,640 --> 01:54:23,559 Speaker 2: is is what makes it sort of like something that 1842 01:54:23,600 --> 01:54:26,520 Speaker 2: you can't replicate at all. 1843 01:54:26,600 --> 01:54:31,080 Speaker 1: So, you know, I don't know what's going to happen next. 1844 01:54:31,320 --> 01:54:33,640 Speaker 2: The only way to replicate it would be if if 1845 01:54:33,680 --> 01:54:36,320 Speaker 2: somehow some network is able to just keep them all together. 1846 01:54:37,320 --> 01:54:39,800 Speaker 2: And and in today's day and age, you can do that. 1847 01:54:40,760 --> 01:54:45,200 Speaker 2: You can find a platform for your stuff. And so 1848 01:54:45,960 --> 01:54:48,800 Speaker 2: maybe we're all morning something that's not going to go away. 1849 01:54:49,480 --> 01:54:53,120 Speaker 2: But I also had another observation in that Draymond Green 1850 01:54:53,200 --> 01:54:55,200 Speaker 2: has been a part of inside the NBA for about 1851 01:54:55,200 --> 01:54:57,480 Speaker 2: a week and a half now at least, if not more. 1852 01:54:57,920 --> 01:55:01,800 Speaker 1: And obvious he's got designs on. 1853 01:55:02,160 --> 01:55:06,200 Speaker 2: Immedia future, but even Chris Paul, for example, he was 1854 01:55:06,240 --> 01:55:09,840 Speaker 2: doing stuff on the ESPN set last week, and it 1855 01:55:10,040 --> 01:55:13,640 Speaker 2: just got me thinking to players who get to this 1856 01:55:13,920 --> 01:55:20,680 Speaker 2: level of media interaction and participation while they're still active players, 1857 01:55:21,080 --> 01:55:24,800 Speaker 2: and how many of them still sort of look like 1858 01:55:24,880 --> 01:55:30,040 Speaker 2: the best version of themselves in between the lines after they. 1859 01:55:29,880 --> 01:55:30,720 Speaker 1: Start doing this. 1860 01:55:31,560 --> 01:55:35,960 Speaker 2: In other words, are these guys still at a full 1861 01:55:36,080 --> 01:55:43,800 Speaker 2: level of dedication to their actual basketball jobs, because, my goodness, 1862 01:55:43,800 --> 01:55:47,720 Speaker 2: certainly Draymond more than anyone, he spends a lot of 1863 01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:49,200 Speaker 2: time on this media career. 1864 01:55:49,720 --> 01:55:53,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, as an older player, you lose 1865 01:55:53,400 --> 01:55:56,480 Speaker 3: a step. You know, Draymond's basketball IQ is still what 1866 01:55:56,600 --> 01:55:59,680 Speaker 3: it is. He's still a different difference maker on the court. 1867 01:56:00,240 --> 01:56:01,160 Speaker 3: What is he slower? 1868 01:56:01,360 --> 01:56:01,560 Speaker 1: Right? 1869 01:56:01,640 --> 01:56:04,280 Speaker 3: He's not the same player that he once was. So 1870 01:56:04,520 --> 01:56:07,640 Speaker 3: it's not going to be what it was transitioning and 1871 01:56:07,680 --> 01:56:11,920 Speaker 3: getting yourself in position to do something else, especially in 1872 01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:14,920 Speaker 3: today's age when you can pretty much do it anywhere 1873 01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:18,480 Speaker 3: and everywhere. They're not leaving the confines of their home 1874 01:56:18,720 --> 01:56:22,160 Speaker 3: and going into the studio and no, they have these 1875 01:56:22,200 --> 01:56:25,520 Speaker 3: things at they're home, so opposed to I don't know, 1876 01:56:26,880 --> 01:56:27,720 Speaker 3: watching TV. 1877 01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:33,640 Speaker 10: You do a podcast on the pod, I mean inside 1878 01:56:33,720 --> 01:56:34,120 Speaker 10: the NBA. 1879 01:56:34,280 --> 01:56:37,160 Speaker 1: Draymond Green's in Dallas right now. Yeah, But Draymond Green, 1880 01:56:37,200 --> 01:56:40,760 Speaker 1: what would he be? Can Koon? Where would he be? Brazil? 1881 01:56:41,360 --> 01:56:44,160 Speaker 1: Be careful, Padrick Beverley might throw a ball at your face. 1882 01:56:44,200 --> 01:56:46,040 Speaker 3: But would you get what I'm saying, Like he would 1883 01:56:46,160 --> 01:56:47,440 Speaker 3: be somewhere else. 1884 01:56:48,680 --> 01:56:50,080 Speaker 1: This isn't about criticism. 1885 01:56:50,200 --> 01:56:53,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, like that's fine, great, and yes, set 1886 01:56:53,920 --> 01:56:58,360 Speaker 2: yourself up for your next career. My point is, if 1887 01:56:58,360 --> 01:57:02,200 Speaker 2: you're gonna spend that much mental energy on it, are 1888 01:57:02,360 --> 01:57:05,960 Speaker 2: you still able to spend the energy mentally that you 1889 01:57:06,120 --> 01:57:10,000 Speaker 2: need to be whoever you are, the best version of 1890 01:57:10,040 --> 01:57:11,200 Speaker 2: yourself on the court. 1891 01:57:11,320 --> 01:57:16,920 Speaker 3: You know, when I got into this business, I was 1892 01:57:17,000 --> 01:57:21,160 Speaker 3: playing my first year in nineteen ninety eight. 1893 01:57:21,800 --> 01:57:23,480 Speaker 1: I was a co host on the radio show. 1894 01:57:25,160 --> 01:57:30,920 Speaker 3: And I didn't look back since because for me, it 1895 01:57:31,160 --> 01:57:34,560 Speaker 3: was okay, your seventh round draft pick. This thing could 1896 01:57:34,560 --> 01:57:38,360 Speaker 3: turn off tomorrow. So let me use you know, my 1897 01:57:38,440 --> 01:57:41,320 Speaker 3: resources to try to build up a lane in the 1898 01:57:41,360 --> 01:57:45,160 Speaker 3: business that wasn't conducive to the position I played. The 1899 01:57:45,200 --> 01:57:49,000 Speaker 3: amount of outlets that were available back then, which were 1900 01:57:49,080 --> 01:57:55,040 Speaker 3: three four right, And so I started to build out 1901 01:57:55,360 --> 01:58:01,839 Speaker 3: this my resume and my experience and TV and radio 1902 01:58:02,040 --> 01:58:05,040 Speaker 3: and do all of these things while I still played 1903 01:58:05,200 --> 01:58:08,040 Speaker 3: every market I played in at a TV or radio show. 1904 01:58:08,880 --> 01:58:14,880 Speaker 3: And there is a world where you can do right 1905 01:58:14,880 --> 01:58:20,120 Speaker 3: brain left brain things right like you can have a balance. 1906 01:58:21,560 --> 01:58:25,440 Speaker 3: And I think the thing that I'm excited about is 1907 01:58:25,480 --> 01:58:29,040 Speaker 3: the options and availability for guys to do things like 1908 01:58:29,080 --> 01:58:33,240 Speaker 3: this now because honestly, quite honestly, I was one of 1909 01:58:33,280 --> 01:58:40,120 Speaker 3: the first guys to really try to blaze a path 1910 01:58:40,320 --> 01:58:45,120 Speaker 3: when it wasn't just open to me, like when it 1911 01:58:45,240 --> 01:58:49,200 Speaker 3: just wasn't as an offensive lineman, it just was no, 1912 01:58:49,560 --> 01:58:52,000 Speaker 3: there was no jobs there. And shout out to Denise 1913 01:58:52,000 --> 01:58:56,600 Speaker 3: White and eag Entertainers and Athletes Group, the best publicist 1914 01:58:56,640 --> 01:59:00,000 Speaker 3: in the business because twenty five years ago, however long 1915 01:59:00,120 --> 01:59:02,600 Speaker 3: or was, she was like, hey, if you if you 1916 01:59:02,640 --> 01:59:06,120 Speaker 3: bet on me, you know I'll work harder than anybody. 1917 01:59:06,160 --> 01:59:10,120 Speaker 3: And she was right. She paved the way. She I said, look, 1918 01:59:10,520 --> 01:59:14,080 Speaker 3: get me in the room, I'll do the rest. And 1919 01:59:14,160 --> 01:59:17,560 Speaker 3: she constantly got those doors open for me and put 1920 01:59:17,560 --> 01:59:20,680 Speaker 3: me in position to be able to get in front 1921 01:59:20,680 --> 01:59:24,840 Speaker 3: of people who are decision makers, and it paid off 1922 01:59:24,880 --> 01:59:27,600 Speaker 3: for me. I've been in this business over to twenty 1923 01:59:27,640 --> 01:59:30,960 Speaker 3: five years, which is crazy. But yeah, I don't just 1924 01:59:32,160 --> 01:59:35,360 Speaker 3: come on the air and be unprepared and no, I 1925 01:59:35,400 --> 01:59:37,160 Speaker 3: can go this is what I do. 1926 01:59:38,280 --> 01:59:39,960 Speaker 1: This is what I do. That's why it sounds the 1927 01:59:39,960 --> 01:59:40,680 Speaker 1: way it sounds. 1928 01:59:42,880 --> 01:59:46,520 Speaker 2: I mean, you don't wear shoes, but outside that, yeah, 1929 01:59:46,880 --> 01:59:53,200 Speaker 2: you're crushing it. Absolutely crushing it all right man, Boston 1930 01:59:53,280 --> 01:59:56,720 Speaker 2: and Dallas. I know we're not there yet. We are there, yeah, 1931 01:59:56,840 --> 01:59:59,080 Speaker 2: so we're gonna have to start playing around with that. 1932 02:00:00,160 --> 02:00:03,120 Speaker 2: Up next week for e from salam Mark, Willard Plank, 1933 02:00:03,200 --> 02:00:06,080 Speaker 2: and Spanyard Coming up next on five Sports Radio