1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio The Herd. 8 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 3: It's me Jason McIntyre in for Colin Cowherd. He's enjoying 9 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 3: an extended July fourth holiday. Boy, heck, guys living the 10 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 3: dream baby. So it's me and Alex Curry in the 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 3: Salt Mines. Alex, how we doing? 12 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: Hold it up? By the way, how was your July fourth? 13 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 2: Any firework activity or not? One? Yeah? 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 4: I mean I did the standard like I think I 15 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 4: talked about it when we were on the show last week. 16 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 4: The Strand is just like immaculate vibes in hermos in Manhattan, 17 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 4: and I have a couple of friends with strandhouses, so 18 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 4: just yeah, just just know, Matt Staff just did the 19 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 4: walk down the Strand like seeing seeing everybody else rage 20 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 4: and have a good time and just waving from afar 21 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 4: because I've officially been pregnant for every holiday since Thanksgiving. 22 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 3: Wow, that's been great. All right, Well that's exciting. You know, 23 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 3: you got you got a big summer ahead, big summer. 24 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 3: We're in the red zone. We're feeling good, we're feeling happy. 25 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 3: Just hopefully she cooks for another week too. 26 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 5: All right. 27 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 3: We got Albert Breer coming up in five minutes. He's 28 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 3: jet setting against well, all these guys taking summer vacations. 29 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 3: We're just work. We grind, all right, let me let 30 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 3: me quickly go. So a lot of NBA free agency 31 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 3: has been decided. 32 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: Not everything. 33 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 3: Bradley Biel could still move. You've got big got Jonathan Kuminga. 34 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 3: I don't know if he's adjusting the odds of anybody, 35 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 3: but we decided to come up with a Jmax six 36 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 3: pack as of now, the six pack of NBA teams 37 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 3: that can win the championship next year. 38 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: Now, as I was reminded. 39 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 3: This morning, if we had done this last year at 40 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 3: this time, it would have been Boston Celtics one through six. 41 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 3: Everybody thought they were gonna repeat. They had a loaded team. 42 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 3: They just won the chip. I mean they were absolutely 43 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 3: stacked and didn't get out of the second round. 44 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: So keep that in mind. 45 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 3: No, defending champ has gotten out of the second round 46 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 3: since the Kadi Curry Warriors. Let's have the six pack. 47 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 3: Let's get started with. I think we're starting with the 48 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 3: Cleveland Cavaliers in the East, mostly because they retain almost. 49 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 2: Everyone on their team. 50 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 3: They did lose tied Jerome rotational guy had a good season. 51 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 3: But when you keep the core Garland coming off to 52 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 3: tow injury in the in the playoffs, MOBLEI Allen Mitchell 53 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 3: is a good team. DeAndre Hunters now had we'll have 54 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 3: a full season. 55 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 2: Listen. 56 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,119 Speaker 3: I know Cleveland, it's tough to think of them winning 57 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 3: a chip without Lebron, but guys, the pieces are there 58 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 3: for sure. 59 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: I think the Cleveland Cavaliers are one or two. 60 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 6: In the East. 61 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 3: Let's go to the next team and that is the 62 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 3: New York Knickerbockers. Yep, do they still call them Knickerbockers 63 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 3: either way. So last year, the Knicks added two new 64 00:02:55,639 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 3: starters in Towns and Bridges. Obviously very difficult to dominate 65 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 3: right out of the gate with two new starters. Well, 66 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 3: now this year the Knicks I will have a new 67 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 3: head coach, but it looks like they're going to retain 68 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 3: everyone else from the starting lineup, added two guys to 69 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 3: the bench. 70 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: I you know, listen, Mike Brown, I like. 71 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 3: Him if he plays his cards right and uses more 72 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 3: bench and keeps his guys fresh for the postseason. I 73 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 3: don't see why this isn't a fifty five to six 74 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,399 Speaker 3: win team, sixty win team, and I think they're top 75 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 3: two in the East, maybe number one, and the garden 76 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 3: home court advantage will be sick in the postseason. All right, 77 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 3: let's go to the West because nobody else is good 78 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 3: in the East, and we're gonna go Lakers. 79 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: I know, I know, Jay Mack, you're crazy. Were doing well. 80 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 2: Let's see if they add Bradley Beild there for sure in. 81 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 3: The six pack, and I'm gonna put them here out 82 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 3: of respect to I don't know, two of the five 83 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 3: best players in the league in Luca and Lebron. 84 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: Oh, Jay, what happened against Minnesota? Well, I don't know. 85 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 3: They had like twenty games together to work out the Kings. 86 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: They had no center. 87 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 3: Can we just take a deep breath and say, like 88 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 3: they lost to the Timberwolves and nobody really saw it coming, 89 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 3: They're gonna be fine. 90 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 2: The Lakers are certainly one of the six best. 91 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 3: Teams in the league. Next up, Denver Nuggets. I like 92 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 3: the offseason they've had. They're putting all their chips in 93 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 3: for now. Cam Johnson for Michael Porter Jr. Feels like 94 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 3: a slight upgrade, not a huge one because MPJ. 95 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 2: Is a much better scorer. 96 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 3: But I think Cam Johnson will be good. I like 97 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 3: Bruce Brown coming. 98 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 2: Back getting off Russell Westbrook. I think they added. 99 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 3: Tim Hardaway to Yeah, Tim Hardaway, They've done. 100 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 2: A good job. 101 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 3: And remember Aaron Gordon was hurt in Game seven with 102 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 3: the ankle or maybe they beat OKC. Next up the 103 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 3: Houston Rockets. I think they've won the offseason more than anybody. 104 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 3: I mean, they added Kevin Durant, look at this, they 105 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 3: added Climp Capella, and they added Dorian Finney Smith. Essentially, 106 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 3: the Rockets got better than anybody and they lost like nothing, 107 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 3: Dylan Brooks and Jalen Green and a first round pick. 108 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 3: I think you could look for guys like Reed Shepherd 109 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 3: to step up big time. I would not be surprised 110 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 3: at all if shen Goon is an All Star once again, 111 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 3: Jabari Smith less pressure Aman Thompson rising star. 112 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 2: Houston's good. 113 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: I think the team to beat in the West Houston 114 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: Rockets in the Jmax six pack. 115 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: And I know you're waiting. 116 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 3: On one last team, Okac Thunder. 117 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. 118 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 3: I had for a moment Orlando in this spot over OKC. Yeah, 119 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,239 Speaker 3: that's real. I could see Alex looking at me like Jmack, 120 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 3: what's wrong with you. I'm just gonna remind you guys. 121 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 3: SGA got paid, Chad Holbern got paid. There it's a 122 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 3: different mentality and mindset among the players, and history bears 123 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:41,239 Speaker 3: this out. If you haven't won the chip, haven't gotten paid. 124 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 3: Its front, front of office. That's a top priority. That's everything. 125 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 2: Well, now they got the title. 126 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 3: SGA's got all the accolades, he's got all the money 127 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 3: that hunger desires. 128 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 2: Not quite there. Yes they're young. 129 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,679 Speaker 3: Yes, they're probably gonna win fifty to sixty games, maybe 130 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 3: sixty two. I don't know that they're gonna win the Championshi. 131 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 3: But again, you guys can better go for it. I'm 132 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 3: not doing that. So there's the Jmax six pack heading 133 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 3: into next season. Oh my gosh, who you doing these graphics? 134 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 2: For everyone listening? 135 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 4: You guys, there is a photo of j Mac on 136 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 4: the screen that is. 137 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 3: So on brand I'm in a tank top. Yes, that's 138 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 3: a good job. I think that's Timy or Scott. Shout 139 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 3: out to those guys. All right, let's go to Albert 140 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 3: Breer live from Nantucket. Yes, that is a big look 141 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 3: at that tan on this guy. Oh my gosh, what 142 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 3: are you doing this summer? He's just on a lobster boat. 143 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 3: What's going on? 144 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 6: No? No, no, no lobster boat for me. But yeah, 145 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 6: this is a couple of weeks. I shut it down. 146 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 6: And one of my few strengths j Mack is my 147 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 6: ability to answer. Everybody can see them on the screen now. 148 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I'm close in personal all right, before we 149 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 3: get to NFL. I know you're a huge college football guy, 150 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 3: and Dion Sanders came out this week and essentially, so 151 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 3: we need a salary cap in college football. 152 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: So we're we went from like players. 153 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 3: Can't get paid five years ago to nil to salary 154 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 3: like it's exploding at a pace that I don't think 155 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 3: anybody could have foreseen. 156 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: Your buck. 157 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 3: Guys are always big spenders, but when you hear salary 158 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 3: cap in college football, that just it just doesn't seem 159 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 3: to make a ton of sense, does it. 160 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 6: I mean, I think I understand what Deon's saying, and 161 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 6: I think what Deon's saying is a small version of 162 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 6: a bigger topic that college coaches have been discussing for 163 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 6: years now, which is we need guardrails. We need some 164 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 6: sort of system that will put rules in place that 165 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 6: everybody has to play by that you know, maybe isn't 166 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 6: apples to apples from program to program based on what 167 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 6: program you're at, but gives everybody a fighting chance. And 168 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 6: you know, I think if you're at a place like Colorado, 169 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 6: which is not you know, a blue blood at the 170 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 6: level of Alabama or an Ohio State or at Texas, 171 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 6: then it really does behoove you to have those sorts 172 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 6: of guardrails in play and have some limits on how 173 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 6: much you can spend. And so what'll be interesting about 174 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 6: this to me at least is two things. The first 175 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 6: thing I think would be, you know what this looks 176 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 6: like with the nil piece, because even though there is 177 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 6: that PETE the revenue share that goes up to twenty million, 178 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 6: you do have like the other piece of it, which 179 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 6: is nil, and our school is going to be able 180 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 6: to spend above the twenty million nil. How do you 181 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 6: classify nil versus money that's coming from the school. I 182 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 6: think all of that needs clarification, you know. And then 183 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 6: I think the other one that's really obvious is whether 184 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 6: or not they unionize. And you know, forever and ever 185 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 6: and ever, the NCAAA has pushed back against any sort 186 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 6: of any sort of thought that these guys would be 187 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 6: classified as employees. But if you're going to put a 188 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 6: salary cap in place, it would pretty much necessitate a 189 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 6: collective bargaining agreement, which would necessity unionization and making these 190 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 6: guys employees. 191 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 3: So when you listen to Dion, it almost sounds like 192 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 3: he's maybe losing out on recruits to I don't know, 193 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 3: the Texas Text of the World. Here is audio of 194 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 3: Dion talking about a salary cap need albut I. 195 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 7: Wish it was a cap, you know, like the top 196 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 7: of the line player makes this. And if you're not 197 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 7: that type of guy, you know you're not gonna make that. 198 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 7: This is what the NFL does. So the problem is 199 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 7: you got a guy that's not that durn good, but 200 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 7: he could go to another school and they give him 201 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 7: a half a million dollars and you can't you can't 202 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 7: compete with that. That don't make sense say, all you 203 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 7: have to do is look at the playoffs and see 204 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 7: what those teams spent. And you understand during the white 205 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 7: in the playoffs, it's kind of hard to compete with 206 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 7: somebody who's giving twenty five thirty million dollars. So during freshman. 207 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 8: Class it is. It's crazy. 208 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 7: It seems that pays the more, pays the most is 209 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 7: gonna be then in So. 210 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 3: Again, you're just wrapping about college football. Do you think 211 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 3: we will see one here in the next like five 212 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 3: years or is there just too much layer? Like you 213 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 3: mentioned the word union that's insane for college football. 214 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 6: Come on, yeah, I don't know how you solve it. 215 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 6: And you know, once the genie got out of the bottle, 216 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 6: I don't think there was any putting it back in. 217 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 6: But I also don't know how you put enough rules 218 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 6: in place to make it fair for everybody unless you 219 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 6: turn the guys into employees. And then if you're going 220 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 6: to put a cap on what employees can make, well 221 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 6: that needs to be negotiated with the employees, which would 222 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 6: require the employees being in a union. So I like, 223 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 6: there's no easy answers here, Jmac. I mean, it just 224 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 6: sort of is what it is. And you know there, 225 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 6: I think there was an opportunity over the last twenty 226 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 6: years for the NCAAA, for the conferences to get a 227 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 6: hold of this early, and get in early and try 228 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 6: to fix this early and create some sort of order 229 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 6: and rules and guardrails and all of that stuff. And 230 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 6: unfortunately there wasn't the leadership at the NCAA level with 231 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 6: guys like Mark Emritt to do that. Those guys were 232 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 6: more concerned with just collecting every check until the until 233 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 6: the money train stopped rolling, you know, And so now 234 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 6: everybody else has left to pick up the pieces. And 235 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 6: I think it's, you know again, it's sort of unpredictable 236 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 6: which way that's all going to go. 237 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 2: All right, let's pivot to the NFL. 238 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 3: The new Quarterback Show on Netflix debuted, and it seems 239 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 3: like Kirk Cousins is I don't want to say a 240 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 3: sympathetic figure, but I mean, you're laughing. I think a 241 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 3: lot of people are like, who cares about this guy? 242 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 2: He's made a lot of money. 243 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 3: I keep going back to this when the first when 244 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 3: it first happened that they traded up for Penis six 245 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 3: weeks after signing Cousins to one hundred million guaranteed. It 246 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 3: felt like, WHOA, that's kind of dirty. Kirk Cousins. I 247 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 3: feel like he was misled by Atlanta, Like if they had. 248 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 2: Told him drafting Pennix, he probably would not have. 249 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 6: Signed there, right, Yeah, And I think, like the on 250 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 6: the Quarterback Show, he laid it out like as clearly 251 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 6: as he's laid it out, or I think anybody's laid 252 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 6: it out, which is more or less that the Vikings 253 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 6: wanted him to go to year to year and I 254 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 6: think a lot of us knew this at the time. 255 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 6: And yeah, there was some reporting out there on this 256 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 6: that he was looking for a multi year commit from 257 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:04,599 Speaker 6: a team that beyond just the money, beyond just the guarantees, 258 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 6: you know, a statement like this guy's going to be 259 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 6: our quarterback for the foreseeable future. And that's reflected in 260 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 6: the contract that we negotiated with him. And again, like 261 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 6: the Vikings were through going through this process of resetting 262 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 6: their roster, of of getting some of the older players 263 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 6: out of there, getting younger at key spots. You sow 264 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 6: at the edge rusher position for example, was a really good, 265 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 6: a really good, really good example of that, like where 266 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 6: they move out to Neil Hunter and they bring in 267 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 6: Andrew van Ginkol and Jonathan Gernard and they draft Alice Turner, 268 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 6: and so like the the idea there was, well, yeah, Kirk, 269 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 6: we're willing to bring you back, we're willing to pay 270 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 6: you market value. But that does not mean we're not 271 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 6: going to draft a quarterback. We're picking higher than we 272 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 6: plan to pick for some time. And you know, if 273 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 6: the quarterback is there that we like, we're going to 274 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 6: take him. And that means we can't guarantee that you're 275 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 6: going to be the quarterback in twenty twenty five and 276 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 6: going forward. We'll give you the job in twenty four. 277 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 6: But that's where it and the Falcons contract reflected that 278 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 6: they were going to do more than that, that they 279 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 6: were going to give him at least a couple of 280 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 6: years of runway, and that it was going to be 281 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 6: his show. And so you know, I think, you know, 282 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 6: looking at that from an Apples to Apple's perspective, you know, 283 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 6: Kirk looked at it and said, Okay, on one end, 284 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 6: I'm going to get at least two years and if 285 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 6: I play well more than that. On the other end, 286 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 6: this team is probably going to take a quarterback in 287 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 6: the first round and I may be out after a 288 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 6: year and looking for a new home again in twenty 289 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 6: twenty five. So of course he took the first option, 290 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 6: not knowing the two options that the two teams will 291 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 6: wind up in very similar situations at the end. And 292 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 6: I think the other thing you noticed just just listening 293 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 6: to him talk, and this is pretty obvious, is like 294 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 6: he felt like the Vikings were very honest with him, 295 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 6: and because of that, the Vikings lost the quarterback right. 296 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 6: Whereas if you go back and you look at it, 297 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 6: like he felt like the Falcons were wound up being 298 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 6: a little bit dishonest, might be strong, but maybe misled 299 00:13:58,400 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 6: him a little bit in the way they were going 300 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 6: to handle them. 301 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go on to another story that just popped up. 302 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 3: And you know, Jared Goff, a super nice guy, doesn't 303 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 3: really rattle. 304 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 2: Cages or say stuff. He kind of called the RAMS. 305 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 3: I don't know if it was McVeigh or the RAMS 306 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 3: organization immature for the way they handled his departure a. 307 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 2: Couple of years ago. 308 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 3: I'm looking back, you know, with Jared Goff as a starter, 309 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 3: he and McVeigh were doing awesome. 310 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 2: They made the playoffs in three or four years like 311 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 2: it was a good run. 312 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they got to a Super Bowl and then 313 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 3: to kind of not give him more of, like more 314 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 3: than a one minute heads up that we're trading you. 315 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 3: I don't know, did he deserve that? What's your read 316 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 3: on how that kind of shook out? 317 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I think, you know, if you listen 318 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 6: to a lot of the stuff that Sean himself has 319 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 6: said in the time since, he has a lot of 320 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 6: regret from that. You know, he did go back and 321 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 6: clear some of that stuff up and they have been 322 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 6: able to re establish a relationship. I don't think it 323 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 6: is what it was before and probably never will be, 324 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 6: but I mean it was to the point where, you know, 325 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 6: a year after the trade, one of the first texts 326 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 6: that Sean got was from Jared congratulating him on winning 327 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 6: the Super Bowl. So yeah, I think there was a 328 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 6: lot of regret in the RAMS organization on the way 329 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 6: things were handled down the stretch in twenty twenty and 330 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 6: into early twenty twenty one with Jared Goff, and they 331 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 6: wish they would have handled it better than they did. 332 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 6: I also don't think that they anticipated that the opportunity 333 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 6: to replace Jared Goff was going to come along as 334 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 6: quickly as it did. If you remember that happened, that 335 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 6: trade was agreed to now couldn't be consummated till March, 336 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 6: but that trade was agreed to at the end of January, 337 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 6: and so it was I mean, I believe less than 338 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 6: two weeks after the Rams season ended, So everything kind 339 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 6: of moved fast. And I do think the Rams have 340 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 6: some regret over the way that they handled that and 341 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:54,239 Speaker 6: as much as they I think have worked out their differences, 342 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 6: I think you can see, you know, in the way 343 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 6: that Jared's talking in the documentary that he still feels 344 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 6: a little stung by what went on. 345 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, clearly, anytime you get bounced that way, it's brutal. Now, 346 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 3: I mean, he's done well in Detroit. I don't know 347 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 3: if they back So are you on board with the 348 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 3: Lions probably backsliding a little bit this year? 349 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a lot that there, there's a lot that 350 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 6: they have to replace. 351 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 7: Yeah. 352 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 6: I think Frank Ragnow is a really big boss. Like 353 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 6: I I know the amount they put on him to 354 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 6: to to to to to help run the show on 355 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 6: offense and really help their young linemen and from a 356 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 6: leadership perspective, from a play perspective, he's really good. Now 357 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 6: they have some answers at the position Graham Glasgow, they 358 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 6: draft Tate Ratlege out of Georgia. But to think that 359 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 6: they won't take a little bit of a step back 360 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 6: and what's been a massive stretch for strength with them 361 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 6: along that offensive line, yeah, I think you'd be you'd be, 362 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 6: You'd be fooling yourself at least a little bit not 363 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 6: to think that they're that they that there's going to 364 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 6: be at least some effects to to losing Rag now upfront. 365 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 6: Then the other obvious part is the coordinators, right, So 366 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 6: can Kelvin Shepard be what Aaron Glenn was? Can John 367 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 6: Morton be what Ben Johnson was? Those are high bars 368 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 6: to clear for those coaches. On the flip side, though, 369 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 6: I think everybody needs to remember what the lines were 370 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 6: at the end of the year. That was an incredibly 371 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 6: banged up team. They were playing at an exceptionally high 372 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 6: level when they were healthy, and they were able to 373 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 6: withstand losses of guys like Aiden Hutchinson and Aleen McNeil. 374 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 6: On the defensive side of the ball. They were down 375 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 6: to I think only three or four like full time starters, 376 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 6: like the guys they had planned to be their starters 377 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 6: out there on that side, you know. So I think 378 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 6: if you look at that and you figure they're not 379 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 6: going to have as bad injury luck, and they've still 380 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 6: got so many young players that are ascending, you know, 381 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 6: you guys like Jamison Williams and Jamiri Gibbs and Brian Branch, 382 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 6: you know Aiden Hutchinson himself coming back off the injury. 383 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 6: That those guys are still on the way up. They 384 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 6: still should be really good, even if they do take 385 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 6: a step back. 386 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 3: I got to ask you about the Kansas City chiefs. 387 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 3: I think when you do tea he hits, you automatically 388 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 3: have to talk chiefs at some point. 389 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 2: But Brent Veach made a. 390 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 3: Curious comment about Travis Kelcey, and I think he was 391 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 3: just being honest, but it kind of sounded like maybe 392 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 3: he can see the end for Travis Kelcey and like 393 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 3: you could see him wear down. 394 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 2: But he was just being honest. I don't think it 395 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: was a dig. 396 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 3: But I'm curious just to your thoughts on on Vech's 397 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 3: comments on Kelsey. 398 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 6: Well, I mean he's turning thirty six, Yeah, you know 399 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 6: what I mean. Like, so, I think I think if 400 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 6: you're if you're being honest about it, like he's already 401 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 6: that position, by the way, Like it's amazing he's made 402 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 6: it as long as he has more tight ends where 403 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 6: the tag of injury prone than I think at any 404 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 6: other position. And the reason why is because of how 405 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 6: difficult that position is on your body. So the fact 406 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 6: that he's made it this far is really really remarkable. 407 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 6: But yeah, they do have to they do have to 408 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 6: plan for what's next here. They did give Noah Gray 409 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 6: a contract extension, who's been his backup, and they drafted 410 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 6: out a duke a couple of years ago, and the 411 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 6: offense is going to look a little bit different. I mean, 412 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 6: I I the weird thing is j mac like I 413 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 6: look at it like I think Travis Kelcey could take 414 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 6: a step back and they still could be significantly better 415 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 6: on offense than they were a year ago. And it's 416 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 6: for a few reasons. I think their tackle situation will 417 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 6: be better. I don't know what combination of Jalen Moore, 418 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 6: Juwan Taylor, and Josh Simmons will be out there tackle, 419 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 6: but it should be better than what they were doing 420 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 6: what they had at the end of the year last year. 421 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 6: You know, and then Matt Naggi had this vision for 422 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 6: the offense last summer that never came to life, and 423 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 6: it was Hollywood Brown and Xavier Worthy on the outside, 424 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 6: with Travis Kelcey and Rashie Rice running through the space 425 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 6: vacated underneath. Hollywood Brown got hurt start of the year. 426 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 6: He wasn't available till December. Rashie Rice went down for 427 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 6: the year about a month in so you never got 428 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 6: to see all that all together. Well, now you are 429 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 6: going to get the chance to see it all together. 430 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 6: And they think Rashie Rice has a chance to be 431 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 6: one of the ten best receivers in football. What and 432 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 6: Xavier Worthy's coming back in the second year and the 433 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 6: Checko's healthy. So if you're better at tackle and you 434 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,719 Speaker 6: had this vision that come that that that that you 435 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 6: had drawn out last year, that comes to life this year, 436 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 6: I think they actually have a chance to be better 437 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 6: on offense than they were a year ago, with the 438 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 6: X factor, of course being Kelsey's age. The same way, 439 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 6: I think the defense is going to be really good 440 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 6: with the X factor being Chris Jones' age on that 441 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 6: side of the ball. 442 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 3: Now, listen, I'm glad you saved that hot take for 443 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 3: that moment because I'm shocked right now. I haven't heard 444 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 3: anybody say that. Everybody seems to think regression is coming, 445 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 3: you know. 446 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 6: Because you're all prisoners to the last thing you saw. 447 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 2: Not me, but other people probably. So that's interesting. 448 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 3: The world where the Chiefs offense is better with everybody 449 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 3: healthy and the offensive line maybe, Well, you're an Ohio 450 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 3: State guy, right, you know, you know the guy that 451 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 3: they drafted. 452 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 6: Right, yeah, I mean like Simmons is, like, that's a 453 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 6: devastating injury for like a big man, like the that's 454 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 6: worse than the torn acl what he wants through the 455 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 6: torn Pteller tendon. And I don't think it was perfect 456 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 6: at first, but since the Chiefs have had him, he's 457 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 6: checked all the boxes and physically he's a freak. So 458 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 6: the beauty of it for the Chiefs is they don't 459 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 6: need him to start day one. If he wins the job, great, 460 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 6: But they brought in Jalen Moore to play that position 461 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 6: from the Niners, who had been a film for Trent Williams. 462 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 6: They have Juwan Taylor there who has been up and 463 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 6: down but still has ability, so like they can kind 464 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 6: of bring Josh Simmons along at his own pace, and 465 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 6: you know, he's got the ability to be a top 466 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 6: shelf tackle somebody somebody there compared to the Trent Williams. 467 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 6: Maybe that's a little bit over the top, but he 468 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 6: does have a lot of ability. 469 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 2: All right, we'll wrap up with this. Is there any 470 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 2: update on TJ. Watt. 471 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 3: There's reports out there that like the fan base is 472 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 3: starting to get divided over what to do with their 473 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 3: beloved TJ. 474 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 5: Watt. 475 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 3: There's a report about someone family member of someone in 476 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 3: the organization venting we can't pay him. 477 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 2: What are you hearing out there? 478 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 6: I just think I just think they're I think there's 479 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 6: too much mutual interest in getting something done for them 480 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 6: not to be for them not to get something done. 481 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 6: The reason the Steelers went and got Aaron Rodgers is 482 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,199 Speaker 6: because with the core that they've built, the core that 483 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 6: they've been highly competitive with but not at the top 484 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 6: level with over the last four or five years, there 485 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 6: may be a one or two year window left and 486 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 6: that's TJ. Watt, Minka Fitzpatrick when he was still there 487 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 6: before he got traded for Jalen Ramsey, which made them 488 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 6: two years older. Cam Hayward's at the end, you know, 489 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 6: with this group of players, it's about twenty twenty five. 490 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 6: And I think that's part of what appealed about the 491 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 6: situation to Aaron Rodgers is that he looks at it 492 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 6: and says, everybody else is on my timetable here. These 493 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 6: are my peers. We're gonna go chase a championship together. 494 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 6: So if that's where the Steelers are, and TJ. Watt 495 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 6: is at a point in his career where he has 496 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 6: to go chase like he knows that the clock's ticking 497 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 6: a little bit, he has leverage over the Steelers and 498 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:08,959 Speaker 6: that they need him to be part of that vision, 499 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 6: but it also behooves him to be part of that team, 500 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 6: you know, And so I just think there's too much 501 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 6: mutual interest for them not to get something done. I 502 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 6: do think the contracts for Miles Garrett and Daniel Hunter 503 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 6: and Max Prosby done this offseason do complicate things a 504 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 6: little bit, But at the end of the day, you know, 505 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 6: I the way I see it, at least like the 506 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 6: two parties involved here have have too much mutual interest 507 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 6: not to find a way to get something done. I 508 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 6: don't know if it will be at the beginning of 509 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 6: camp or right before week one, but I would think 510 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 6: that they'll find some sort of way to work this out. 511 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 3: All right, Albert Breer, thanks a lot for taking time 512 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 3: out of your vacation and your family to talk football. 513 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, what a good guy. All right, Albert, 514 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 3: and enjoy all right, Thanks guys, all right, Coming up 515 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 3: next here on the Herd. 516 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 2: Wait a minute, Dia, Am I reading this right? 517 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 3: Yannis making a definitive decision about a future in Milwaukee. 518 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 2: Alex says that for the next In the next segment, here. 519 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 8: On the Hurt. 520 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 9: One More Heard. The Herd streams twenty four hours a day, 521 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 9: seven days a week. Within the iHeartRadio app, Search Herd 522 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 9: to listen live or on demand whenever you like. 523 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 10: Hey, what's up everybody? It's me three time pro bowler 524 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 10: LeVar Arrington and I couldn't be more excited to announce 525 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 10: a podcast called Up on Game? What is Up on Game? 526 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 10: You asked, along with my fellow pro bowler TJ. Hutschman, 527 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 10: Zada and Super Bowl champion Yup, that's right, Plexico Burris. 528 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 10: You can only name a show with that type of 529 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 10: talent on it. Up on Game We're going to be 530 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 10: sharing our real life experiences loaded with teachable moments. Listen 531 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 10: to Up on Game with me LeVar Arrington, TJ Huschman, 532 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 10: Zada and Plexico Burrs on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 533 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:02,719 Speaker 10: or wherever you get your podcast from. 534 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 3: Welcome back our number two here on the Herd. It's 535 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 3: a gorgeous Friday morning in Los Angeles. It's me Jason 536 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 3: McIntyre in for Colin Cowhard. I did speak with the 537 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 3: Big Guy yesterday. He is enjoying the burning embers of 538 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 3: his summer vacation in Art's Unknown. I just like saying 539 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 3: that because they used to announce a wrestling duel from 540 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 3: Parts Unknown. 541 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys remember that. 542 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 3: Yes, I was a huge wrestling fan as a kid. 543 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 3: I'm joined by Alex Curry, who track were you a 544 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 3: wrestling fan or no? 545 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 4: No, I will say now, I appreciate the art of 546 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 4: it because it is it's it's art, it's acting. And 547 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 4: I think when you look at it that way like 548 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 4: it's not you're like, oh, it's not real. It's like, 549 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 4: oh no, it's real. These are incredible athletes. But it's theater. 550 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 2: It's theater. It's theater, so you. 551 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 4: Have to look at it like theater and I was 552 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,719 Speaker 4: a big theater nerd as a Thespian growing up, So 553 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,719 Speaker 4: like once I think I like equated it to that, 554 00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 4: I was like, oh, I get it. 555 00:25:59,080 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 8: This is cool. 556 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 2: Jake the Sake, Roberts Ultimate Warriors, don't know very Ames. 557 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 2: I know The Rock. I love Duayne the Rock. Johnson, 558 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 2: he's like my fave. It seems like a nice guy, 559 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 2: all right. 560 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 3: Coming up here in like six minutes, Holy cow, we 561 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 3: get an all pro NFL quarterback, Marlon Humphrey from the Ravens. 562 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 3: You know, there's a new ranking out The best secondary 563 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 3: in the league belongs to the Ravens. Interesting the way 564 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 3: they're building it. But we'll talk to Marlon Humphrey soon. 565 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 3: I want to go here. They love to do a 566 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 3: good list on this show. They travel well online, so 567 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 3: they came up with j Mac. We need a six 568 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 3: pack of teams that can win the Super Bowl, and 569 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 3: there's a couple obvious ones we'll get to. I could 570 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 3: only find two in the AFC and four in the NFC. 571 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 3: So here's my six teams as of right now, early 572 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 3: July twenty twenty five, who can win the twenty twenty 573 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 3: six Super Bowl. Let's start what that San Francisco forty 574 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 3: nine ers. They had a terrible year last year, but 575 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 3: it was due to injury. Now they get Brandon Ayuk 576 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 3: should be back, although I'm seeing one report he may 577 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 3: not start Week one. We'll see, but Ayuk should be 578 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 3: a factor when he returns. Obviously, the young fellow they 579 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 3: drafted last year, that Christian McCaffrey comes back. Trent William 580 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 3: still breathing. I think this is going to be a 581 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 3: great team. The schedule is the great determinant, with the 582 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 3: Niners easiest by far in the league. They only face 583 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 3: three playoff teams from last year. They don't face any 584 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 3: of the top five quarterbacks in the league. Folks, the 585 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 3: Niners are a Super Bowl contender. I would say a 586 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 3: minimum of twelve or thirteen wins. Next up my pick 587 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 3: to win the Super Bowl next year the Buffalo Bills. 588 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 3: They've been knocking on the door for a few years. 589 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 3: Josh Allen obviously tremendous. They came up a little short 590 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 3: in the playoff game in Kansas City. We will not 591 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 3: relitigate the terrible officiating in that one. Obviously, Buffalo huts 592 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 3: some self inflicted wounds trying to pull off the tush 593 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 3: push show, whatever you want to call it, repeatedly and 594 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 3: it failed. The bill did add Joey Bosa, not a 595 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 3: bad pickup. Josh Palmer from the Chargers Tredavius White. Not 596 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 3: sure what he can give you as like a Nicol 597 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 3: dime quarterback. But they also have a very favorable schedule 598 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 3: and they've won the last five afcast titled Wow, it 599 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 3: did not realize that it's been a while for my Jets. 600 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 3: The the third team. I think they win the Super 601 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 3: Bowl next year. A bit of a dart throw here 602 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 3: Washington commanders so instantly I get pushed back. Well, the 603 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 3: Texans had a good first year with CJ. Stroud, then 604 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 3: they fell back a little, still made the playoffs. I 605 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 3: thought Washington adding Laramie Tunseell and Deebo Samuel was just 606 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 3: a stroke of genius. I think is a really good team. 607 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 3: I think they'll push the Eagles in the NFC East. 608 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 3: They're vastly superior to the Cowboys and Giants, and you 609 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 3: just you look at the continuity, kept their head coach, 610 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 3: kept both coordinators. Terry mcclaurin told out should be done 611 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 3: here shortly, folks. I know they got slaughtered by the 612 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 3: Eagles in the NFC Championship game. They will be much 613 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 3: better if that win over Detroit in the playoffs. I mean, 614 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 3: did Jayden Daniels making the leap in year two? I'm 615 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 3: bullish on Washington. I think they could win the Super Bowl. 616 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 3: Team number four, Yes, you got to go for the 617 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 3: Philadelphia Eagles. They are favored to repeat. I do think 618 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 3: it'll be a challenge. I would not bet them to repeat. 619 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 3: Offensive line is formidable. Saquon Barkley coming off a heavy 620 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 3: usage year scares me a little bit. You know, I 621 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 3: have Jalen Hurts as the fifth best quarterback in the NFL. 622 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 2: They did lose their offensive coordinator. 623 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 3: They lost Makai Beckton, Josh Sweat, Brandon Graham, Darius Lay, CJ. 624 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 2: Gardner, Johnson. That's like six starters gone. 625 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 3: But the Eagles are gonna certainly be an eleven win team, 626 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 3: and there's just too much talent not to be in 627 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl discussion. Next up, Yes, surree the La Rams. 628 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 3: They are really The arrow is super duper pointing upward 629 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 3: for them. They had the best off season according to 630 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 3: one report. You know they grade the moves. One report 631 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 3: had the Rams having the best off season. Adding Devonte 632 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 3: Adams certainly helps they lose Cooper Cup. But DeVante Adams 633 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 3: and Pooka that is pretty impressive. And they're drafts the 634 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 3: last couple of years. Between Pooka Jared vers Fisk, they've 635 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 3: just hit home run after home run. Is a really 636 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,959 Speaker 3: really good team. If the offensive line holds up, they 637 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 3: should make the NFC Championship. Finally, my final team of 638 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 3: the six pack, they could win. 639 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 8: The Super Bowl. 640 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 3: And it's not just because he's coming up as a 641 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 3: guest here, but Baltimore Ravens number one secondary in the NFL. Obviously, 642 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 3: the Lamar Jackson a Derrick Henry combination. 643 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 2: Is just filthy. 644 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 3: You have to love adding JayR Alexander as like a 645 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 3: dime cornerback. 646 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 2: They got him on the cheap. 647 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 3: Malachi Starks should form the best safety duo in the league. 648 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 3: I know he's only a rookie, but Hamilton should be 649 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 3: really formidable on the back end if the wide receivers 650 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 3: can stay healthy. I mean, listen, if Mark Andrews doesn't 651 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 3: drop a two point conversion, I don't know what the 652 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 3: Ravens any Super Bowl do. They beat the Chiefs on 653 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 3: the road. Is a really really good team. The Ravens 654 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 3: will certainly be there. Ken Lamar deliver in January. That's 655 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 3: the big question. So those are my six teams that 656 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 3: can win the Super Bowl. The Jmax six pack. They 657 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 3: love this photo and look at the. 658 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 2: Jets on a dinghy? 659 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 8: Is that? What that is? 660 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 6: A dingy? 661 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 4: An inner tube entertaine is safety tube or whatever. Someone 662 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 4: goes overboard, you toss it to them. 663 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, basically the Jets are overboard. We're a good fifteen 664 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 3: years now. 665 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 9: I'll be sure to catch live editions of the Herd 666 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 9: weekdays and neon Easter not a em Pacific. 667 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 3: All right, let's get to our guest, Marlon Humphrey joining 668 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 3: the Herd, the all pro quarterback from the Baltimore Ravens 669 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 3: at college football legend. 670 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 8: What's up? 671 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 9: Man? 672 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 2: How you doing? 673 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 8: Not that much? 674 00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 5: Feeling good and joined the last couple of days before 675 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 5: I got to start the real world. 676 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 8: So I'm feeling good. 677 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 6: Yeah. 678 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 3: Let me ask you what was the summer like? I 679 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 3: mean you you've been on a hiatus. Did you go 680 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 3: travel the world? Was you just grinding on football? 681 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 2: What was going on? 682 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 5: A lot of golf? A lot of uh, A lot 683 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 5: of LESLIEP nights? I just had a well not just 684 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 5: had but got a six month old now, so it's 685 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 5: been a different offseason definitely not my norm. 686 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 8: But I just got into golf. 687 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 5: So golf's been greats football training and then a lot 688 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 5: of family time and we just got had a family vacation. 689 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 8: So it's really good. But it's been great. Life's been 690 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 8: really good. 691 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 2: Real quick. 692 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 3: On the golf, I find golf a little slow, you know. 693 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 3: I liked up more up tempost stuff. How do you 694 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 3: handle that transition? Football fast and powerful and golf is 695 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 3: just like taking it easy. 696 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 8: Yeah. 697 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 5: I became a member of the country club that doesn't 698 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 5: have a crazy ton amount of members, so people are 699 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 5: going too slow. I just leave that hole, go to 700 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 5: skip around a lot of different holes. So I've made 701 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 5: it kind of as I don't know if I'm allowed 702 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 5: to do that, so honestly, I might be telling on myself, 703 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 5: but I've made it a little bit faster. But that 704 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 5: is sometimes the bad thing of golf. 705 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 8: It takes. It can take some time to some slower players, and. 706 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 5: I feel like, if you're not you're gonna be a 707 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 5: slower player. You at least got to be good. And 708 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,959 Speaker 5: most people that are slow are not good, So that 709 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 5: needs to be a new rule for sure. 710 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 3: I hope your wife likes it when you say, hey, 711 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 3: i'll be back. 712 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 2: In five hours. I'm going to play golf. My wife doesn't. Anyways. 713 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 2: Let's get to the NFL aspect. 714 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 3: So Pro Football Focus recently ranked the secondaries of the league, 715 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 3: and you guys are number one. 716 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 2: A is at a surprise, be obvious. 717 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 3: And see, you know a lot of defenses these days, 718 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 3: Marlon are building. Hey, you just need edge rushers, let's 719 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 3: start there. Cornerback is secondary safety and linebacker forget it. 720 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 3: But you guys are kind of built different from the 721 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 3: back end. 722 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 8: Yeah. I think for me, honestly, we were thirty second 723 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 8: last year. 724 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 5: I believe last in the league, so for us to 725 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 5: be ranked number one does not really mean anything to me. 726 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 5: I just would love to not be last. I would 727 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 5: love to be number one. That would be amazing, but 728 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 5: I'm really focused on what we just did last year. 729 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 5: We got essentially most of the same guys returning, so 730 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 5: I would love to finish number one. 731 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 8: That'd be great. 732 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 5: But I do know right now, the only thing on 733 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 5: my mind is we were the thirty second ranked and 734 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 5: that was that. That's not cool, and that's just not 735 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 5: very good. So I'm trying to fix that before we 736 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 5: even think about being number. 737 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 3: One toughest quarterback you faced last season, all the. 738 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 5: Toughest quarterback I faced last season would probably. 739 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,399 Speaker 2: I mean, he faced a lot of good ones. 740 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 8: That's a. 741 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 5: Oh Joe Burrow, Joe Burrow, I don't even know, Yeah, 742 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 5: Joe Burrow a surprising second, even though we end up 743 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 5: winning that game, but I felt we caught them on 744 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 5: the earlier end. Jayden Daniels what, we caught them pretty 745 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 5: early on. But I just remember, I'm like, man for 746 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 5: his got to be a rookie. He was just so poised, 747 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 5: so smooth, seemed like he never was really phazed. Honestly, 748 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 5: so I think from a young, young talent perspective, he's 749 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 5: I mean, he already. 750 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 8: Is a is a star, but he was He's pretty good. 751 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 2: Interesting. 752 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 3: So no mention of Josh Allen there. I don't know 753 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,720 Speaker 3: Buffalo fans are going to take that as a slight 754 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 3: or did you you know it was Josh Allen easier. 755 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 8: To prep for. 756 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 3: No. 757 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,240 Speaker 5: I think they their game well going up their playoff 758 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 5: game plan. 759 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 8: It just was a pretty it was a playoff game plan. 760 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,720 Speaker 5: I felt, and they didn't really have him do anything 761 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 5: crazy that they didn't need to do. They were I 762 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 5: thought their game plan was really good against us, and 763 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,720 Speaker 5: they just kind of kept us on our heels and 764 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 5: we just couldn't really we couldrently make the plays we 765 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 5: need to make. I think you see more. I feel 766 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 5: like you see a little bit more from a quarterback 767 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 5: in a bad way of when they score a lot 768 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 5: of points on you and either you're ahead and they're 769 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 5: trying to come back, and the quarterbacks really got to 770 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 5: just full blown carry the team. But Josh Allen Bafar 771 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 5: managed the game. Yeah, that playoff game in just a 772 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 5: great way. And I obviously they beat us, and you know, 773 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 5: we played Jalen Hurts, but that was another to me, 774 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 5: a simple, simpler game plan. And so there was a 775 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 5: lot of good quarterbacks, but the ones that seemed like, 776 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 5: you know, this guy's pretty good obviously Joe Burrow and 777 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 5: they dad it. 778 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, let me quickly. You mentioned playoffs, so I'll ask 779 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 2: about it. Listen. You guys have had some tough endings 780 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 2: to the season. 781 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 3: Obviously, you know the loss in Buffalo was just brutal. 782 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 2: I'm just curious, what's the mood. 783 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 3: Like after that because every season you guys go and 784 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 3: thinking we got a shot at the Super Bowl and 785 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 3: then to come up short again. I don't know what 786 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 3: was a vibe like do you remember that day pretty closely? 787 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 5: It's not the best I think it was a lot 788 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 5: of uncertainty. I felt for myself, for some of the 789 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 5: other guys to know if you they'd be around the 790 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 5: next year, including myself, and so there's a lot of uncertainty. 791 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 8: Obviously, you know, teams change every single year. 792 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 5: Felt that you had a really good roster at the time, 793 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 5: so yeah, it was just a lot of uncertainty. It 794 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 5: was a lot of you know, kind of what happened, 795 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 5: you know, what did we do wrong here? 796 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 8: But it was definitely. 797 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 5: You know, obviously every year if you don't win the 798 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,359 Speaker 5: Super Bowl, to you didn't get the objective. But over 799 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,320 Speaker 5: my past eight years, it was definitely a definitely a 800 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,760 Speaker 5: different feeling of just it was just different. 801 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 8: You know. 802 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 5: I don't know if it was because we felt we 803 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 5: had a good team or what, but if I had 804 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 5: to put. 805 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 8: Into words, it would be just a lot of uncertainty. 806 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. 807 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 3: If Lamar is a golfing partner but I'm sure you 808 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 3: get this a lot. Hey man, when is Lamar gonna 809 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 3: carry you guys one day in January? And I know 810 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 3: it win as a team, loses a team, but he 811 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 3: has had some playoff game where he hasn't been MVP calibers. 812 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 3: What do you say to people when they when they 813 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 3: ask you about or maybe nobody asked you about this. 814 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. 815 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 5: Espestally, I don't get accet too often. 816 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 8: I think, I, you know, I have the player. 817 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 5: I don't really see it as a just quarterback only 818 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 5: type stat. I know that's kind of how it is. 819 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 5: It's all about, you know, the quarterback got But I 820 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 5: just want to focus on, you know, how can we help, 821 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 5: how can we play better? How can we win the game. 822 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 5: On defense, There's been a lot of past Baltimore Ravens 823 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 5: defenses that have you know, led teams. All I know 824 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 5: is that the biggest stat is, you know, we haven't 825 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 5: really had I think we've had one ton over and 826 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 5: all of Lamar's playoff games. 827 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 8: So I know it's all about the quarterback. 828 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 5: But you know, when you look at the numbers, you 829 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 5: look at the stats, you look at the reality the 830 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 5: Baltimore Ravens defense hasn't really helped out at all or 831 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 5: even done their part to. 832 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 8: Win some of these playoff games. 833 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 5: And that's kind of the biggest focus on us in 834 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 5: the defensive room this offseason, and that'll be the focus 835 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,919 Speaker 5: in training camp and it'll translate. 836 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 3: To games a little inside football. But the gayr Alexander addition, 837 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 3: does this change anything for you? Do you prefer playing 838 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 3: on the inside outside? Does it matter or or because 839 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,320 Speaker 3: the secondary is pretty stacked right now. 840 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it didn't matter to me. I was super 841 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 5: excited to add him to the to the squad. I 842 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 5: actually tried to hit him up on Instagram, but he 843 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 5: deleted his Instagram so I was like scrambling get his number. 844 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 5: And then by the time I even could get it, 845 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 5: I see him in the building and so I'm like, 846 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 5: all right, sweet, and I talked to him, and I'm 847 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 5: just super excited. 848 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 8: We got a lot of great players in our secondary 849 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 8: of this year. 850 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 5: I think the way we want to play, who plays 851 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 5: where matchups we put, you know, all our best guys 852 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 5: in the field. 853 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm just super excited it. 854 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 5: I think you just can't go wrong adding a guy 855 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 5: like that, and so I'm really excited for this year 856 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 5: secondary and excited for us to just make a lot 857 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,439 Speaker 5: of plays and hopefully he'll he'll help. Like I said, 858 00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 5: with getting those turnovers in the playoffs. He've done it 859 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 5: before and I look forwar him doing it again. 860 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 3: Let me quickly ask you, I noticed you played in 861 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 3: twenty fifteen at Alabama on a loaded team with Derrick Henry. 862 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 2: Is that the most dominant team you've ever been on 863 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 2: or was there a. 864 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 3: Ravens team you felt that was more dominant, because you, guys, 865 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 3: I'm looking at the results twenty fifteen, You guys just 866 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 3: eviscerated almost everybody. 867 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 8: We Yeah, it. 868 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,360 Speaker 5: Would be it would be hard. I have been on 869 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,919 Speaker 5: the number one defense and in the NFL, But that 870 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 5: that that that Alabama team was just next level. I 871 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,879 Speaker 5: think everyone on the starters ended up getting drafted into 872 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 5: the NFL. You're breaking giving the ball at Derek Henry 873 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,359 Speaker 5: forty times a game, Nobody can stop it. 874 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 8: So there was there was it was. 875 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,720 Speaker 5: It was honestly pretty crazy to look back from that team, 876 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 5: and you know, obviously the next year we end up 877 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 5: losing a Clemson, but it would have been great to repeat. 878 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 8: But that that that's the fifteen team. It was just 879 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 8: it was just. 880 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 5: Loaded and I don't I don't know if there that 881 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 5: domination is can only be done really at the college level. 882 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 8: But that was that was a great year. 883 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, we could wrap up. You got a movie, 884 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,959 Speaker 3: Nothing but a Winner. It's a documentary tell us about 885 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 3: it being part of the process. What's that been like 886 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 3: and any comparisons to football. 887 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 8: Yeah, so it was great. 888 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 5: I executive produced Nothing but a Winner, me and my sister, 889 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 5: she's the actress in La. It was a great opportunity 890 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 5: that got presented to me and I was able to 891 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,320 Speaker 5: be a part of it and kind of have inputs 892 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 5: here and there and different things. It's basically just about 893 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 5: you know, the history of two great coaches at happened 894 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 5: to be at the universe Alabama. Some of the wins, 895 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 5: some of the you know, ugly losses, the kick six 896 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 5: for harburd fans out there, tune INTC they had, and 897 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,799 Speaker 5: you know kind of how Bama came up part to be, 898 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,319 Speaker 5: you know, with segregation and different things. First, you know, 899 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 5: athlete African American athlete at the university. 900 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 8: So a lot of different things going on with it. 901 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 8: But just as basically. 902 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 5: A documentary about just greatness, how it form the process 903 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 5: of it, all the great things that kind of is 904 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 5: in the rich history of Alabama football and just winning coaches. 905 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 5: That's the biggest thing is you can take away with 906 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,839 Speaker 5: your Alabama fan, not Alabama fan. It's just really a 907 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,360 Speaker 5: a documentary about just something great and it'll be out soon. 908 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 8: And it'll be it'll be really good. 909 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like July thirty first in theater's congrats 910 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,359 Speaker 2: on that. I'm curious. A lot of. 911 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,240 Speaker 3: People look to set themselves up for a post career. 912 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 3: You just turned twenty nine, so you got a ways 913 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 3: to go. But is Hollywood where you want to go next? 914 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 3: Or you know a lot of guys transition to the media, 915 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 3: or you could you know, do what Cam Newton's doing 916 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 3: and just start a podcast and trying to go rebel 917 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:44,839 Speaker 3: rouse that way. 918 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:46,240 Speaker 2: What do you think in post career? 919 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 8: I had a lot of different thoughts. Media was one. 920 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 5: You know, Hollywood would be would be awesome if I 921 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 5: if I chose that route. 922 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 8: There's you know, that's something I kind of think about. 923 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,760 Speaker 5: You know, obviously, you do football for a long time 924 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 5: and you're you kind of figure out what do you 925 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,800 Speaker 5: want to do after there's so many different ways you 926 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 5: can go, but I would love to. You know, I 927 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,320 Speaker 5: always wanted to direct a movie. I always wanted to 928 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,360 Speaker 5: play in a movie. So I've always wanted to do 929 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 5: something around that space. Maybe not full time. But the 930 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 5: cool thing about all that is that's something you can 931 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 5: do and do something else. But media, Hollywood, all those 932 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,840 Speaker 5: things are kind of things that interest me. And just 933 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 5: we'll just have to see when what happens when I 934 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 5: when I retire with the wife says, you know, so 935 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 5: I always have a big part in that. I wish 936 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,240 Speaker 5: I could be a pro golfer. If I could do that, 937 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 5: I would that would be the biggest one. But I 938 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 5: think I missed too many reps when I was six, seven, 939 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 5: eight years old. 940 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 8: You can't get back, and so. 941 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,400 Speaker 5: The best I could do now was maybe break eighty 942 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 5: one day of my life and I'll consider that my 943 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 5: Super Bowl. 944 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 3: Hey, let me ask one more things. I just was 945 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 3: watching those highlights and I thought about something. So Travis 946 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 3: Hunter is coming into the league as an elite cornerback 947 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 3: and wants to play both ways. I'm assuming in high 948 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 3: school you were playing both ways and dominating. But Marlin, 949 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 3: my big thing the second he said this, I was like, okay, 950 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 3: so you got to play the Ravens, So you got 951 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,400 Speaker 3: to go tackle Derek Henry and space then go to 952 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 3: the sideline and come back on and. 953 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,319 Speaker 2: Run a bunch of passa. That's impossible. How on earth 954 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 2: is he going to be able to do this? 955 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,400 Speaker 3: And I'm just curious your thoughts on on did you 956 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 3: play two ways in high school? 957 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 2: And yeah? Is this mission impossible for Travis Hunter? 958 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 8: I think, you know, he is very talented. I think 959 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 8: he's me watching. 960 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,799 Speaker 5: I think he's a really really elite DV based off 961 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,839 Speaker 5: the you know, a couple of games I saw this 962 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:31,919 Speaker 5: past year. 963 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 8: But to do both it seems very mission impossible. 964 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,279 Speaker 5: As you know, I think Dion obviously did a little 965 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:40,759 Speaker 5: bit of it, you know, back in his day, but 966 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 5: I just think the game has changed so much since then. 967 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:48,719 Speaker 5: Dion was clearly light and day the fastest guy out there. Nowadays, 968 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 5: everybody's fast, you know. I think of Jason Kelsey, that 969 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 5: dude's running up on you just as fast as as 970 00:44:55,520 --> 00:45:00,080 Speaker 5: a receiver tight end. So I think he's really he 971 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 5: got a tough challenge ahead. I think eventually he will realize, man, 972 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 5: it's really really hard to do this at a high 973 00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 5: level where every week you're. 974 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,399 Speaker 8: Playing a top NFL team. 975 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,880 Speaker 5: It's not like college, where you know, there is teams 976 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 5: on everyone's roster, where it's like this should be a 977 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 5: pretty easy game. 978 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 8: And that's just not the case in the NFL. 979 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:24,839 Speaker 5: And I think he'll I hope he has success with it, 980 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 5: and I hope he just decides it's just too much 981 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 5: for me as opposed to you know, he kind of 982 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,239 Speaker 5: struggles with it. But I definitely think he has the 983 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,759 Speaker 5: ability to do it, but I more just think the 984 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:35,600 Speaker 5: stamina to do it. 985 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 8: I don't know if anyone has that to do it 986 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:38,879 Speaker 8: for You played with. 987 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 2: Derreck Henry in college. 988 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 3: Now he's your teammate, have you I'm just curious, have 989 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:43,239 Speaker 3: you ever tackled him? 990 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:44,360 Speaker 2: What the hell is that? 991 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:48,399 Speaker 8: Like? The problem is he's so tall. 992 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 5: A lot of times you go low, his knee will 993 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,720 Speaker 5: actually hit your head, and it's it's a lot he's 994 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 5: this stuff got to tackle. He's somehow, I don't know how, 995 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 5: he gets stronger and faster in the fourth quarter while 996 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 5: everyone else seems to be fatiguing, And I think that 997 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 5: gives him a lot of his advantage. But his exception 998 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 5: speed he's so tall. He's getting on the edge faster 999 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 5: than what you think. And if you if you don't 1000 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,919 Speaker 5: go now, it's it's bad and it's stiff. Arm will 1001 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,240 Speaker 5: throw you around, but it's rough. It's something at the corner. 1002 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 5: You think, I shouldn't be doing this. I don't want 1003 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,440 Speaker 5: to do this. The linebacker Delauna should be doing this. 1004 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 5: But when you do, got to do it, you gotta 1005 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 5: you gotta run your feet, try not to close your 1006 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 5: eyes and try to get him down. 1007 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, good stuff, Marlin Humphrey, check out is movie nothing 1008 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 3: but a winner. End of this month in theater's congrats 1009 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:34,360 Speaker 3: on everything man, and good. 1010 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,319 Speaker 8: Luck this year. Yes, yes, thank you so much. 1011 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,760 Speaker 3: All right, Marlon Humphrey, who's a budding golfer who knew 1012 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 3: I had no idea, but I hope Travis Hunter was listening. 1013 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 2: Did you, I mean, did you hear did you see 1014 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,799 Speaker 2: the reaction? Alex? He almost started laughing. He's like, yeah, 1015 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 2: that's mischief. It's hard. 1016 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,480 Speaker 4: I mean again, like you, you never wanted to deter 1017 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,799 Speaker 4: someone from reaching a crazy goal that we've never seen before. 1018 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 2: I mean, people have to show. Hey, Otani when he. 1019 00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,719 Speaker 4: Said he was going to be a power hitter and 1020 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 4: An's pitcher. Obviously, it's way different on your body baseball 1021 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,800 Speaker 4: compared to football, but again, don't knock it until you 1022 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:11,360 Speaker 4: until you try it. I think that's kind of most players' 1023 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 4: reactions are going to be what Marlin's reaction was, but 1024 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:19,880 Speaker 4: again he's very impressed. Producer Golfer like like that was 1025 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,919 Speaker 4: a good interview, pretty fun