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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio talking.

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Speaker 2: To an old friend here tonight, John Ventry, and he's

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Speaker 2: going to be discussing who the aliens really are, and

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Speaker 2: has been the time travel false flag, what future holes

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Speaker 2: for humanity? But we keep giving into these really great

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Speaker 2: stories and they're just great stories. And time flies, doesn't it, John,

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Speaker 2: when you're here, just flies by.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but we got two more hybrids to talk about.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, tell us those stories, let's hear them.

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Speaker 3: Okay. So now it's twenty thirteen. I think I had

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Speaker 3: just finished up three years of being on the mouff

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Speaker 3: On board. I'm a multi state director with seven states,

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Speaker 3: almost like a regional director.

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Speaker 4: So what were the seven stincts? Which ones were they?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I had Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Delaware, Main Massachusetts, Vermont,

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Speaker 3: and New Hampshire those wow states. Yeah, okay, so you know,

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Speaker 3: but it was not much different than what I did

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Speaker 3: at UPS. You know, I had three states at the

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Speaker 3: same time, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Virginia with all these people

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Speaker 3: reporting to me. And you know, I had that security,

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Speaker 3: I had public affairs, I had all the airports, I

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Speaker 3: had all the claim payments and damages. So it was

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Speaker 3: a huge responsibility. So I was just used to being

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Speaker 3: able to cover large territories and you know, and working

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Speaker 3: with people remotely. So at this point, you know, all

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Speaker 3: I hear about is Roswell, roswellt So I said, all right,

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Speaker 3: let me go out to Roswell. I've never been there,

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Speaker 3: and it's the summer of thirteen, it's June, and I said,

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Speaker 3: I am not going to the festival because I'm not.

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Speaker 3: I don't be around people wearing tin hats and balloons

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Speaker 3: and terraines. I really don't because to me, I felt

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Speaker 3: that was making fun of the genre.

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Speaker 2: There's actually a couple of people that do, right that

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Speaker 2: you will see a couple of people that do at

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Speaker 2: the festival.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I've never been there during that July fourth weekend,

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Speaker 3: let's say. So I went to last week of June,

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Speaker 3: and I really wanted to go to the museum, so

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Speaker 3: I did. And so I'm there and you know, the

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Speaker 3: museum needed some upgrades. You know, they had like stuffed

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Speaker 3: paint taped to the wall. All that's yeah, But they

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Speaker 3: had the best library, every any every book ever written

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Speaker 3: on the subject is there, huge library. So so I'm

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Speaker 3: there and I noticed this other female. But again she's

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Speaker 3: she's got that pale skin, you know, she has white hair,

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Speaker 3: white eyebrows, and those gray, bloodshot eyes. So I just

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Speaker 3: noticed her there. I didn't talk to her. I didn't

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Speaker 3: do anything. It's a different person. The first one from

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Speaker 3: nineteen ninety nine, she was about five to eleven and

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Speaker 3: more more heavy set. This one is just that's a

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Speaker 3: normal build, maybe five nine, but much dinner so fine,

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Speaker 3: you know. So now, whether it was that night or

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Speaker 3: next night, I'm in this Chinese restaurant, there she is.

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Speaker 3: She comes up to me. So I said, all right,

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Speaker 3: let's sit together and talk. So we have a two

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Speaker 3: hour conversation. And she says she's a hybrid.

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Speaker 4: So she says she's one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she says that. She goes, you know, she says,

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Speaker 3: s I know who you are. You we'd move on.

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Speaker 3: And I've seen you on a couple of TV shows

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Speaker 3: on Discovery Channel, you know, I had done the UFOs

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Speaker 3: over Earth, Close Encounters, Alien Mysteries. There's probably a few others.

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Speaker 3: And she goes, let me tell you the truth about humanity,

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Speaker 3: and I said, okay, go ahead. So she's telling me

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Speaker 3: how they were our progenitors. They created us, they upgraded

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Speaker 3: disagreeing with her. I'm saying, look, I believe you've been

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Speaker 3: investigated them. But I believe in creation. I believe in

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Speaker 3: the Bible, I believe in God, and I don't agree

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Speaker 3: with what you're saying. And we've kind we sat and

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Speaker 3: debated this, and we went, we went. I'm telling you

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Speaker 3: it was a two hour conversation, but there was one

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Speaker 3: thing we agreed on and I brought up because I

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Speaker 3: had already been having these paranormal activities. Well, I told

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Speaker 3: you what happened in nineteen ninety nine with the other hybrids,

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Speaker 3: But when I brought up these malevolent into dimensional entities,

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Speaker 3: the demonic that, and she says, yes, we're afraid of

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Speaker 3: them too. So it seemed like we had that income

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Speaker 3: and that was very interesting, that the common ground between

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Speaker 3: afraid of them, very afraid. So now the following day,

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Speaker 3: I'm leaving and my trip was I flew into I

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Speaker 3: think it was Albuquerque, drove to Roswell, and I'm driving

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Speaker 3: drive back to Albuquerque and flyout. So I'm leaving town.

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Speaker 3: And if you know Roswell, you got that main street there,

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Speaker 3: and I'm driving west heading to Santa Fe. And basically

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Speaker 3: when you get to the end of her businesses and everything,

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Speaker 3: you got desert. From one hundred and seventy eight miles.

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Speaker 3: I remember one town that was mostly deserted. About halfway

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Speaker 3: there was a diner and a gas station. So there

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Speaker 3: she is. She's hitch hiking. No what, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Mean, that's a movie.

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Speaker 3: Come on, I couldn't make this stuff up. County hitch hiking.

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Speaker 3: I'm driving, I'm leaving, but you know she's hitch hiking.

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Speaker 3: She's got no bag, she's got no purse. She's wearing

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Speaker 3: and she's hitch hiking. She puts her thumb out. I

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Speaker 3: make eye contact with her, and it did you have?

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Speaker 4: How many thumbs did she have when she did?

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Speaker 3: Well? She had five figures. I checked that out. She

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Speaker 3: wasn't the sixth finger pull man, you know. But I

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Speaker 3: looked at her and it was something in my gut said,

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Speaker 3: don't pick her up. Don't pick her up.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's almost like I know what you did last summer.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's a.

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Speaker 3: Rainy night and it's a girl in the car, and

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Speaker 3: you don't stop to pick up a guy in a

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Speaker 3: black trench coat, you know. So I didn't pick her up.

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Speaker 3: And that's that. It was something. Now, she was different

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Speaker 3: seemed more human like maybe that was a first generation hybrid.

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Speaker 3: I mean she had blonde hair, she had normal blonde eyelashes.

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Speaker 3: and I described as a whole encounter, and I call

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Speaker 3: it the Alternative History of Mankind because that's what she's

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Speaker 3: telling me, an alternative history of mankind as to how

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Speaker 3: you know, the Thinker, you know. So as a matter

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Speaker 3: skull like the Thinker. So I contact him. Damiano was

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Speaker 3: it for the cover of the book. And I wrote

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Speaker 3: So I wrote that book. So, you know, then we

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Speaker 3: fast forward to last October of twenty twenty three. So

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Speaker 3: I go to baseball, and that's why I flew home

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Speaker 3: this morning from Florida and I went to two minor

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Speaker 3: that type of stuff and other teams locally. So I said,

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Speaker 3: let me go to the Arizona Fall League. And that's

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Speaker 3: really the like a minor league all star game, all

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Speaker 3: so like, I go over there, Ripley's believe it or not,

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Speaker 3: So the manager comes over and I'm talking to her

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Speaker 3: and I said, well, you know, i'd like to be

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Speaker 3: you look familiar. And I said, well, I was on

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Speaker 3: TV would just you know, kind of recently, would Hanger One.

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Speaker 3: She says, oh, yeah, yeah, I recognize you. She was here.

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Speaker 3: best UFO museum I've ever been to, better than Roswell

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Speaker 3: because they broke it down by uh not date order,

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Speaker 3: turn around. They also say, you look familiar in the

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Speaker 3: UFO fields. Again, I said, yeah, I was on Anger One.

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Speaker 3: He goes, That's where I know you're from. So I

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Speaker 3: Now she's much shorter than the other two. But again

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Speaker 3: the white hair, the white eyebrows, and but she doesn't

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Speaker 3: have the bloodshot eye. She's got light blue eyes, vizine.

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Speaker 3: Maybe she's wearing contacts, she's got vizine.

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Speaker 4: Then she's just like, oh, I got to hurry up.

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Speaker 4: There's that John guy from Hangar?

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Speaker 3: What put it in her eyes? Right? So I just

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Speaker 3: her anything. So I go to the exhibit. It was

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Speaker 3: a cool exhibit, right, So I and then the next

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Speaker 3: two nights I go to the baseball games that the

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Speaker 3: talking stick I think the name of the stadium is.

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Speaker 3: I'm watching the games. I see her at the game.

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Speaker 3: I saw her at one game.

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Speaker 4: Ooh, that's spooky.

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Speaker 3: I see her a couple of rows behind me. So

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Speaker 3: then I drive up the Cave Creek about eighteen miles north.

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Speaker 3: I have a timeshare with the Hilton, right and they

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Speaker 3: And all of that, and she says that she was

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Speaker 3: So I look at it and the cover is on

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Speaker 3: the front US Navy Intelligence Manual on Time Travel. Now,

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Speaker 3: I look to see who published it. It's published by

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Speaker 3: the Naval Institute Press in Newport News, but dated twenty

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Speaker 3: seventy three. It's fifty years in the future. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 3: telling that's what it says. I have the book right, so,

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Speaker 3: in the year twenty seventy three. Wouldn't everything be digital?

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Speaker 3: I mean everything now almost is digital.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm saying, something's not ending up here, you know.

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Speaker 4: Even if that it'll just be a download, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Or on the line or by then you'll have a

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Speaker 2: He'll be AI actors that are like performing it for you.

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Speaker 3: So I'm suspicious. I was head of security for you, Pis,

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Speaker 3: and I'm saying, you know, why would you have a

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Speaker 3: want to get rid of this. There's a tall man

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Speaker 3: She gets up, she hits, she pushes the book to me,

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Speaker 2: But you know what this means, right, Okay, she's got

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Speaker 4: Well, she's going to give you the book. Now the

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Speaker 3: You, well, absolutely, and I end up running into him too.

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Speaker 3: so I'm so because I'm so interested in this thing.

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Speaker 3: Whoever put this together took time and do the genre.

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Speaker 3: It talked about a lot of UFO cases, the history

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Speaker 3: you know, should it be done, should evidence be planted

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