Speaker 1: Episode three ninety eight is episode two ten Frugal Zero
Speaker 1: Waste Living.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Frugal Friends podcast, where you'll learn to
Speaker 2: save money, embrace simplicity, and live a life here your
Speaker 2: hosts Jen and Jill.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Frugal Friends podcast. My name is Jen,
Speaker 1: my name is Jill, and we are replaying one of
Speaker 1: our favorite episodes today about Frugal zero Waste Living. I
Speaker 1: loved this one.
Speaker 3: This one set a bit of a trajectory for me.
Speaker 3: I think and I believe that I talk about living
Speaker 3: in an RV and how that helped me kind of
Speaker 3: get more in touch with my consumption and waste, but
Speaker 3: especially having this conversation solidified for me some of the
Speaker 3: ways that I can be more intentional about my consumption
Speaker 3: and then what I end up throwing out and how
Speaker 3: I'm engaging with those things and just kind of principles
Speaker 3: along the way. So I'm really glad we're revisiting it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the five RS really like I use those first
Speaker 1: two RS now, I think about them all the time.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And we'll get into those what those five RS are.
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Speaker 3: Wow, you're showing your car? Yeah too much?
Speaker 1: Uh well, you gotta be transparent, especially when you're talking
Speaker 1: about zero waste living, because it is near impossible to
Speaker 1: live zero waste. Right, So this is not about being perfect.
Speaker 1: Nothing clearly about us is being about being perfect. So
Speaker 1: we really appreciated this episode and really wanted to talk
Speaker 1: about zero waste ish living. So if you are into
Speaker 1: zero ish waste living, a couple other episodes you can
Speaker 1: check out episode two ninety eight, No Cost Ways to
Speaker 1: be More eco Friendly, episode three forty eight Declutter your
Speaker 1: Home in thirty Days, and then a recent episode three
Speaker 1: ninety two living a Low talks life frugally with Alex Stewart.
Speaker 1: Those are some and yeah, we really do believe that
Speaker 1: being a good steward of your natural resources is a
Speaker 1: foundational part of frugality. So not only does wasting less
Speaker 1: saving money, we just like think it's an inherently nice
Speaker 1: thing to do.
Speaker 3: It can aid in self sufficiency, are problem solving skills,
Speaker 3: learning how to Yeah, just engage in all of the
Speaker 3: five hours. So let's get into it.
Speaker 1: So let's get into our first article, and this is
Speaker 1: straight really straight out of the book that we've been
Speaker 1: reading for book club in the membership, and if you
Speaker 1: want to check out the membership, you can check it
Speaker 1: out at Frugal Friends podcast dot com, slash f fm.
Speaker 1: Even after April, you'll be able to get access to
Speaker 1: our zero waste challenge that we did. But so this
Speaker 1: five rs is from the book we were reading called
Speaker 1: Zero Waste Home, and we both we've both like, really
Speaker 1: enjoyed that book.
Speaker 3: What have you thought, Jill, It's really excellent. I think,
Speaker 3: like what you said, Jen, this has been probably the
Speaker 3: most challenging challenge that we have done yet in that
Speaker 3: I really had to shift a lot and be It
Speaker 3: raised a lot of curiosity, a lot of problem solving,
Speaker 3: a lot of shifting. Whereas a lot of our other
Speaker 3: challenges are so full, beneficial, helpful, I love them, this
Speaker 3: for me particularly raised some things that I'd never thought
Speaker 3: about before, where you know, a no spend challenge is
Speaker 3: like great, there's gonna be some challenging parts to it,
Speaker 3: but it didn't cause me to actually think about the
Speaker 3: way that I live so much as this challenge has.
Speaker 3: That's just me personally. So I really liked it because
Speaker 3: I think she answered a lot of questions, both in
Speaker 3: this article as well as in her book for what
Speaker 3: to do with, you know, the various wastes that we
Speaker 3: might encounter, or how we consume and actually make this
Speaker 3: a realistic lifestyle and the benefits of it, some of
Speaker 3: the benefits that I didn't even think about previously. So yes,
Speaker 3: I really enjoyed it. So you can tell I'm excited
Speaker 3: to talk about it.
Speaker 1: Yes. So the website is Unsustainablemagazine dot com and the
Speaker 1: book is Zero Waste Home by beat Johnson. So Eve
Speaker 1: heard of the three RS, but she takes a little
Speaker 1: bit further with five RS. So let's get into the
Speaker 1: first R, which is refuse, so say no to what
Speaker 1: you don't need. And it's essentially she's saying, learn how
Speaker 1: to say no and mean it. And I think, as
Speaker 1: if you are a people pleaser or somebody who loves
Speaker 1: free stuff, which should hit one hundred percent of our
Speaker 1: listeners on either one of those, this is going to
Speaker 1: be a really hard one, but it is. She says
Speaker 1: it's her favorite R because you have to be intentional
Speaker 1: with everything that comes into your home and intentional about
Speaker 1: the environmental impact of your actions. So I think this
Speaker 1: is one of those boundaries things where we have to
Speaker 1: Frugality is almost a practice in creating boundaries between your family,
Speaker 1: between your friends, and even the greater world at large.
Speaker 1: And that's what I really like about this one. This
Speaker 1: one was very challenging for me right off the bat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's amazing. One of those things that she pointed
Speaker 3: out that I never really thought about is how many
Speaker 3: things people are trying to give us on a regular basis,
Speaker 3: even in a daily She gave a really simple daily
Speaker 3: life example of you wake up, you open your door
Speaker 3: and there's a flyer for lawn service hanging on the door,
Speaker 3: so you pull that off. Then you know, you go
Speaker 3: to the grocery store and someone's handing you a receipt.
Speaker 3: Then you go for food and people are handing you
Speaker 3: straws and takeout stuff that ends up in the trash.
Speaker 3: And then you come home and your mailbox is full
Speaker 3: of junk mail, and there's just like, there's so much
Speaker 3: coming into our life on a daily basis, and this
Speaker 3: is the first step. And I like how she really
Speaker 3: describes that it does go in order. So Jen and
Speaker 3: I are volleying back and forth on what the five
Speaker 3: hours are, but you do have to start here with
Speaker 3: refusing and then moving into the rest of the four rs,
Speaker 3: and then it's kind of like cyclical. But this refusing
Speaker 3: is really where it starts, is the ability to say no,
Speaker 3: And of course that can even include refusing things that
Speaker 3: people are wanting to give you that We talk about
Speaker 3: this a lot, refusing gifts, refusing extra things, which is uncomfortable,
Speaker 3: but as we train ourselves we can get better at it.
Speaker 3: One tip that Bea gives in her book is just
Speaker 3: simple answers, not needing to give a long dialogue explanation
Speaker 3: or feeling like you need to really defend yourself, but
Speaker 3: just practicing the simple things. She one of her go
Speaker 3: tos is I don't have a trash can. Yeah, like
Speaker 3: I would be lying if I said that. She's not lying,
Speaker 3: But you know that was just like a simple thing,
Speaker 3: or you know, we are really simple in our household.
Speaker 3: We don't have a place for this whatever it is,
Speaker 3: but just a simple explanation. So there's so much more
Speaker 3: to be said on that. But we're going to move
Speaker 3: on to the second R, which is reduce, and this
Speaker 3: is partially that learning to let go once we've refused,
Speaker 3: We also then want to move into reducing how much
Speaker 3: we have how much we take in is both in
Speaker 3: that reduction process. This one's quite interesting to me because
Speaker 3: this is a clearing out. Like to me, this is
Speaker 3: a wasting but I think with this, are we're being
Speaker 3: really specific about if there's things we don't want in
Speaker 3: our home, we're not simply sending them to the landfill.
Speaker 3: We're going to find another home for them. So this
Speaker 3: is if you've got extra things in your pantry or
Speaker 3: your closet or your toy bin that you're not utilizing,
Speaker 3: we are giving it away. So I see this reduce
Speaker 3: as part pairing with minimalism, where we kind of go
Speaker 3: through this process what don't we need? But then I
Speaker 3: think the idea with reduction is we then don't bring
Speaker 3: in more. So it's almost like there's this big process
Speaker 3: that we go through, but then after that we learn
Speaker 3: what we actually need, what we actually utilize, so we're
Speaker 3: not bringing in more. So it makes the refusal even
Speaker 3: easier as we move forward.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think this right here is like frugality
Speaker 1: in a nutshell like this one are like, reduce your consumption,
Speaker 1: reduce your spending, don't eliminate. We're we're not eliminating. We're
Speaker 1: reducing down to what's best for us, what's best for
Speaker 1: the environment, and finding the balance within that. And so
Speaker 1: this is always been my true north when figuring out
Speaker 1: what's frugal and what's not is like not what can
Speaker 1: I get the best deal on? Do I get it
Speaker 1: for free? Like stuff like that, But is it a
Speaker 1: reduction of everything? All of the clutter and the noise
Speaker 1: that the world continuously brings into my life? Does it
Speaker 1: somehow reduce that? Like, and I know that's kind of
Speaker 1: like bigger picture than just zero waste, but I just
Speaker 1: have always been obsessed with like the three RS. And
Speaker 1: so to find out that the book was kind of
Speaker 1: based around five RS, I was like, Okay, I didn't
Speaker 1: know this when I started reading, but yeah, so I
Speaker 1: really believe that and we've said it before. You can't
Speaker 1: buy your way to greed. And so the first one
Speaker 1: is super challenging, like like refusing things that are free
Speaker 1: I have a hard time with. And I'm definitely gonna
Speaker 1: give this episode to Travis because he has an even
Speaker 1: harder time with that. But this one I love and
Speaker 1: embrace so wholeheartedly. But yeah, so like this one is
Speaker 1: I have nothing more to say. This is great, but
Speaker 1: it also says like the life you had before you
Speaker 1: were refusing all the things you accumulated, those are things
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to reduce. So like all of the
Speaker 1: tiny little shampoo and body wash bottles that you get
Speaker 1: from the hotels or the airbnbs. Those have to go,
Speaker 1: and I have I have quite a few of them,
Speaker 1: but use them first. That's see. That's where like the
Speaker 1: zero waste like is kind of hard for me because
Speaker 1: in the in the minimalism too, like I have a
Speaker 1: junk drawer because I'm not just gonna get rid of
Speaker 1: things that I will use, Like I know I will
Speaker 1: use body wash and shampoo, I just haven't yet. So
Speaker 1: that's why there's this like it's not either or it's
Speaker 1: just finding the synergy of all of it.
Speaker 3: Well, there is a tough tension because I think that
Speaker 3: some zero wastes, if I can put a title to it,
Speaker 3: some zero wasters will go the direction of just keeping
Speaker 3: everything to keep it out of a landfill. That can
Speaker 3: be a picture in our mind of people who go
Speaker 3: zero waste. That one end of the spectrum is we
Speaker 3: utilize everything. If it's a paper plate, we're not throwing
Speaker 3: it away. We're going to somehow figure out how to
Speaker 3: wash and dry that paper plate and keep using it.
Speaker 3: And we're going to have containers everywhere cluttering everything. And
Speaker 3: so I think what we're advocating for, and this articles
Speaker 3: advocating for, is the pairing of zero waste with a
Speaker 3: minimalist lifestyle. So you have less, you're bringing less into
Speaker 3: the home, You're not just maintaining your lifestyle and yet
Speaker 3: not throwing anything away because that's what moves towards and
Speaker 3: that's not a lifestyle that we want to advocate for
Speaker 3: just for mental and emotional and physical health. So there
Speaker 3: is but there is a tension there because as you
Speaker 3: begin this, there is going to be certainly a startup
Speaker 3: cost and a waste startup, if that's a word like.
Speaker 3: There is going to be a lot that you're getting
Speaker 3: rid of in this process. But then the hope is
Speaker 3: that that's not the lifestyle that you keep living of
Speaker 3: bringing in a ton of stuff that just needs to
Speaker 3: find its way to the landfill.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah. So let's move on from refuse and
Speaker 1: reduce to reuse, and this is maybe the one that
Speaker 1: I have the second hardest time with. I do love
Speaker 1: reusable water bottles, reusable cloth napkins. There are some things
Speaker 1: that I do use a lot of reusables, and then
Speaker 1: there's just some that I I am not the person
Speaker 1: that has the cabinets full of old glass jars from foods.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of the minimalist in me, because I
Speaker 1: have what I have, and I just I will recycle
Speaker 1: the rest. But so I was challenged in that instead
Speaker 1: of just getting single use plastic, to get more things
Speaker 1: that come in glass, because glass is much easier to
Speaker 1: recycle than plastics, because not all plastics are recyclable. I
Speaker 1: keep learning that, like, and not one plastic that's recyclable
Speaker 1: here isn't recyclable there, but the glass is. And so
Speaker 1: that was one thing with the reuse that I have
Speaker 1: been inspired to do. But there are a few other things.
Speaker 1: So like she gives some examples, So paper tissues can
Speaker 1: be replaced with handkerchiefs, you can get straight edge razors
Speaker 1: instead of disposable razors, cotton cloths instead of dish bunges,
Speaker 1: loose tea instead of tea bags. I actually did not
Speaker 1: buy coffee filters for my coffee maker. I just reused
Speaker 1: a reusable It already had a reusable filter in there.
Speaker 1: I just kept a filter on it because I liked it,
Speaker 1: didn't like the residue at the bottom. And then I
Speaker 1: was like, Jen, you're a grown up. Get over it.
Speaker 1: So there have been some things that I've been challenged
Speaker 1: to like do more of, and I think that's great.
Speaker 1: We do things in steps and stages, and we continually
Speaker 1: take in knowledge and surround ourselves with people that challenge
Speaker 1: us to just be a little bit better every year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love this list. This list is an excellent
Speaker 3: place to start. And there's so many things that I
Speaker 3: see on here that I can shift in my own lifestyle.
Speaker 1: What's one thing that you're gonna shift?
Speaker 3: Okay that I will shift.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm putting you on the spot. I know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking at it. So the paper and plastic bags.
Speaker 3: I definitely bring my own bags to like all the
Speaker 3: or Trader Joe's because they force you to do that.
Speaker 3: But let's say I shop at Walmart or anywhere else.
Speaker 3: I don't and I just didn't ever think about it,
Speaker 3: like I think, oh, well they have bags, but here's
Speaker 3: a store that they don't have bags. So done. Now,
Speaker 3: anytime I go into any store, I have my reusable
Speaker 3: bags in my car, like they're already there. For those
Speaker 3: other grocery stores, I'm going to start utilizing that. Now
Speaker 3: here's my one barrier. Because we're going on A side
Speaker 3: tangent now apparently, is that I will use those bags,
Speaker 3: the plastic ones from Walmart or home Depot for trash
Speaker 3: bags in my bathroom. But then that's what brings up
Speaker 3: that whole other issue of what if I stop making
Speaker 3: as much trash? But I think it's not really I'm
Speaker 3: going to make trash. I know that I'm not going
Speaker 3: to be the person who ends up with their annual
Speaker 3: trash and a mason jar. But then I would have
Speaker 3: to figure out an alternative trash bag for my bathroom.
Speaker 1: Well, I think also there's always going to be people
Speaker 1: trying to get rid of their plastic bags. So if
Speaker 1: you are ever in a pinch where you need plastic
Speaker 1: bags like grocery bags for your bathroom, you can just
Speaker 1: go on the buy Nothing group and say, I'll take
Speaker 1: these off your hands. Or you go to the grocery
Speaker 1: store and they have recycling bins for those bags, yeah,
Speaker 1: because they're not recyclable and regular recycling bins, and you
Speaker 1: just stick your hand in there and pull some out
Speaker 1: and I'm at.
Speaker 3: Least using it, giving the life of the thing a
Speaker 3: little bit longer, more uses, which I think is also
Speaker 3: a part of that reuse sometimes it does end up
Speaker 3: getting thrown out, but how much more life can we
Speaker 3: get out of any kind of product also helps.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you, Jill, you're the one that like taught
Speaker 1: me about like always think of the third option. There's
Speaker 1: always a third option. There's the yes and the no,
Speaker 1: and those are usually very obvious, but if you sit
Speaker 1: down and just think about it a little bit longer,
Speaker 1: there's always a third option. And sometimes there's you know,
Speaker 1: four or eight options, but you just have to think
Speaker 1: about it a little long. And that's the same with
Speaker 1: what we say about frugality. It's not inconvenient. It's just
Speaker 1: not the most convenient. You just think about sit down,
Speaker 1: think about it for a few minutes or a few days,
Speaker 1: and see find what the third option is.
Speaker 3: I think that is what's so challenging about this, But
Speaker 3: I like it. I enjoy the creativity, the problem solving,
Speaker 3: the curiosity that this challenge has created of Okay, I
Speaker 3: could do this, then what's the ripple effect of that?
Speaker 3: How can I solve for that? What might else need
Speaker 3: to change? And shift? Where could I make more shifts?
Speaker 3: And it just it's been this like really rich challenge.
Speaker 3: All right, let's get to the fourth R. The fourth
Speaker 3: R is recycle, and we only get to the fourth
Speaker 3: R once we've made it through the other three. So
Speaker 3: recycling is for the things that we can't refuse, reduce,
Speaker 3: or reuse. And I love how Bea highlights this. She
Speaker 3: shares how often people are aware of her zero waste
Speaker 3: lifestyle and they're like, oh, yeah, me too, I recycle everything,
Speaker 3: and she's like, that's totally not it. I mean like
Speaker 3: she's excited for them with like where they're at in
Speaker 3: their process and journey. But we don't want to stop there.
Speaker 3: It's not just oh great, we recycle. Because there's so
Speaker 3: much to be said about the recycling industry and how
Speaker 3: much has not been solved for how unaware we are
Speaker 3: as a society of how to recycle. Well, there's a
Speaker 3: lack of businesses, corporations, companies who are utilizing recycled material.
Speaker 3: There's a lack of consumers buying recycled material, like once
Speaker 3: it has been recycled into something new, we have a
Speaker 3: problem with not actually purchasing those recycled items. We're still
Speaker 3: buying the single use items. So it's not as if
Speaker 3: we can just put our recycling out by the road
Speaker 3: and be like pat ourselves on the back, done deal,
Speaker 3: I did my due diligence. No, there's so much more
Speaker 3: that goes into it, which is really disheartening for me
Speaker 3: because I was in that camp of yeah, I recycle.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm doing such a good thing, and then
Speaker 3: there's this whole myth around recycling. So we only do
Speaker 3: this once we've exhausted the first three rs and then
Speaker 3: we need to do our due diligence and doing it
Speaker 3: well what can be recycled, make sure our recyclables are
Speaker 3: cleaned out, making sure that we're not recycling a ton
Speaker 3: of stuff, because again, we don't have a system that
Speaker 3: can actually support the way that we're doing recycling right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you are not recycling and this is
Speaker 1: where you need to start, that's fine, that's absolutely fine.
Speaker 1: You know, whatever you have in your refrigerator right now
Speaker 1: that you can recycle when you're done using it, start
Speaker 1: with that and then start to refuse and reduce and reuse.
Speaker 1: Whatever you can start with today is good enough. But yeah,
Speaker 1: there are so many people that just sit on that
Speaker 1: and be like, oh, I did the one thing I did.
Speaker 1: I did eco sustainability, And it's really recycling is much
Speaker 1: more confusing. It's it actually makes me angry every time
Speaker 1: I go to recycle something because I'm like, I either
Speaker 1: have to do a lot to get it to be
Speaker 1: recyclable or I just don't and I just put it
Speaker 1: in and I'm like, I don't really know, and then
Speaker 1: I end up I don't want to contaminate the recycling,
Speaker 1: so I throw it away.
Speaker 3: Like unserfrustrating is a common experience for me when I recycle,
Speaker 3: Like anytime I go to my recycling bin, I it
Speaker 3: is paired with a feeling of uncertainty, and that's not
Speaker 3: the greatest.
Speaker 1: Right, which is why I think reducing is again the key,
Speaker 1: Like reduce what you buy and you reduce what you recycle,
Speaker 1: and if you can rethink, like when I'm now purchasing
Speaker 1: instead of my next move is like so I switched
Speaker 1: to like mayonnaise only in glass jars, and so now
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna move my condiments, like when I rebuy,
Speaker 1: I'm going to try to do everything in glass, because
Speaker 1: I know glass like clear glass definitely recycable, and just
Speaker 1: things that I don't have to be so confused about.
Speaker 3: Like the paper around the glass might not be I
Speaker 3: think true recycling as you have to pull it off,
Speaker 3: you've got to clean it really well, get the glue
Speaker 3: as much as possible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, which I can do that enough. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so recycling is not what we want to rest on.
Speaker 1: It's definitely the reducing and reusing as much as possible.
Speaker 1: And that takes us to our last r which I
Speaker 1: actually I like and Jill very much likes. But it's
Speaker 1: rot and that is compost rot it. Yeah, so Jill
Speaker 1: actually likes it because she does use the compost. It
Speaker 1: just makes me feel better about not wasting. I don't
Speaker 1: do anything with the compost, but it is a way
Speaker 1: to use your food scraps. And I actually learned you
Speaker 1: can use a lot more in compost depending on the
Speaker 1: type of compost you have. You use a lot more,
Speaker 1: put a lot more in there than I thought you could.
Speaker 3: Yes, dryer lint forgiving, Yeah, dryer limb hard Yeah I had.
Speaker 1: She's even putting like food, like like animal waste. I
Speaker 1: guess she has like a special compost. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's special, but yeah, she is not a vegan
Speaker 1: by any means, Like, so she puts her animal waste,
Speaker 1: not her animal like pet waste, right, she said, even
Speaker 1: there is like the time you could Yeah, so it's vast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I've got to learn more about that. For me,
Speaker 3: I've got to but I because I know that if
Speaker 3: you put animal waste into like food scraps into your compost,
Speaker 3: that's when you can get pests. So there definitely is
Speaker 3: a way to go about that in a in a
Speaker 3: way where you wouldn't have rats around your garden that's
Speaker 3: not mine.
Speaker 1: And if you are not a gardener, if you have
Speaker 1: a black thumb, then you can create composts and maybe
Speaker 1: trade it with other people who do have it for
Speaker 1: their fresh veggies that they have, like when stuff whatever's
Speaker 1: in season that they're trying to get rid of. So
Speaker 1: that's an option. If you do not want to grow
Speaker 1: your own food, that can be a way to kind
Speaker 1: of use the compost and still get some of the
Speaker 1: benefits of people who do know how to garden and
Speaker 1: grow things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great list. We encourage you to try it.
Speaker 3: But we also want to move into talking about how
Speaker 3: we compare frugal tips with zero waste.
Speaker 1: So we are talking about frugal zero waste. So this
Speaker 1: next article we're getting into is seven easy frugal tips
Speaker 1: that are also sustainable. So this is from Rainbow Vegans
Speaker 1: Rock dot com. I much, I very much like it
Speaker 1: that you are.
Speaker 3: Out Rainbow Vegans Rock. Here we go. So the first
Speaker 3: tip on here is to buy second hand. And you
Speaker 3: all know this this list if you can listen to
Speaker 3: frugal friends for a long time. Nothing on this list
Speaker 3: is going to be new to you. But we're looking
Speaker 3: at it from the perspective of sustainability and zero waste,
Speaker 3: or at least reducing waste. I mean even bea in
Speaker 3: her book describes that zero waste is nearly impossible in
Speaker 3: the culture that we live in, but we're aiming at it.
Speaker 3: It's something to aim at. And so when we buy
Speaker 3: second hand, this continues to keep things out of the landfill.
Speaker 3: It allows us to reuse and almost kind of recycle
Speaker 3: or upcycle things. Of course, we still want to be
Speaker 3: aiming at reduction in this process. We don't want to
Speaker 3: go buy second hand just because it's a deal and
Speaker 3: bringing more things into our house that we may not
Speaker 3: need and might find its way to the trash can quicker.
Speaker 3: But when we do need something, this is the first
Speaker 3: place we should be going to whether it's an actual
Speaker 3: physical thrift store, or it's Craigslist or Facebook, marketplace or eBay,
Speaker 3: these are the spots that we should be going to
Speaker 3: to find the items that we need again, to take
Speaker 3: from somebody else who's not going to be using it anymore,
Speaker 3: to put that thing to use, to keep them from
Speaker 3: throwing it away. And this is also a solution for us,
Speaker 3: not just in buying secondhand, but when we don't need
Speaker 3: something anymore. These are the places we should be going
Speaker 3: to to be donating or selling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we went thrifting this weekend, Jill, We did. We
Speaker 1: got some.
Speaker 3: I was looking for things for our frugal friends party.
Speaker 3: Didn't find what I needed, but I did find Actually
Speaker 3: I found this shirt. I needed more. I found this
Speaker 3: shirt I needed another. Look at us. We're so excited
Speaker 3: to wear our new shirts. Yeah, I realize I don't
Speaker 3: have any like professional short sleeve shirts. I always it's
Speaker 3: either like a dress that I wear or a lightweight
Speaker 3: long sleeve or sleeveless. But I only have one other
Speaker 3: short sleeve shirt, so I got a second one. So
Speaker 3: now I have two professional short sleeve shirts. So you're
Speaker 3: either gonna see this or my black one.
Speaker 1: Love that yeah, and so I don't particularly love thrifting,
Speaker 1: Like we went to one thrift store and afterwards I
Speaker 1: was like exhausted. So typically I do most of my
Speaker 1: thrifting online. We use thread up. We have a promo
Speaker 1: code for ten dollars off thread up at Frugal friendspodcast
Speaker 1: dot com, slash thread up No. A. And then Poshmark eBay.
Speaker 1: I love eBay. Their prices are usually cheaper than Poshmark
Speaker 1: and it's the same exact things they post them at
Speaker 1: both places. And then this one also says depop or
Speaker 1: Facebook marketplace, so there are plenty of places to get
Speaker 1: secondhand that are not a thrift store too. The second
Speaker 1: one on this list is bulk buying. And so when
Speaker 1: Jill and I were originally talking about this, she thought
Speaker 1: I meant like Sam's Club Costco bulk buying, and then
Speaker 1: I was like, I want glass containers for bulk buying,
Speaker 1: and she didn't know what I was talking about. But
Speaker 1: this is like at your health food store where you're
Speaker 1: filling up your own container of shelf stable products. And
Speaker 1: so that's something that I'm going to try and move
Speaker 1: towards and trying to bring instead of using the plastic
Speaker 1: bags they give trying to bring my own glass containers
Speaker 1: that are uniform in size. I'm just not here for
Speaker 1: bringing seven different types of jars and getting them all
Speaker 1: teared and then going to fill them up. I'm here
Speaker 1: for simplicity, So I might just start with one, maybe
Speaker 1: brown rice. I think I'm due for a brown rice refill.
Speaker 1: So but yeah, I am very interested to try this
Speaker 1: and see the price difference. We'll see, yes.
Speaker 3: There, As with some other things like minimalism, eco friendly, sustainability,
Speaker 3: zero waste, there is a version of this that could
Speaker 3: go not super frugal. We can, in anything, spend a
Speaker 3: ton of money, although if it's within our values and
Speaker 3: something we really want to aim at, then it can
Speaker 3: be frugal living. But again that intentionality with our finances,
Speaker 3: with our lifestyle. So I think we all have to
Speaker 3: find is what's going to work for us, Because going
Speaker 3: to seven different stores, spending all of the time and
Speaker 3: energy to make your own laundry detergent, butter mend clothes,
Speaker 3: like to do all of the things as if we
Speaker 3: were living in fifteen twenty two might not work for everybody.
Speaker 3: So there is definitely a lot of room in here
Speaker 3: to figure out what how does this pair with your
Speaker 3: version of frugality and, like you said, Jen, just being
Speaker 3: doing a little bit better each day towards the goals
Speaker 3: that we have stated. I will say this article does
Speaker 3: highlight bulk buying in your lart what is it the
Speaker 3: big box stores like your Costco or your Sham's Club.
Speaker 3: Now we've all still better, We've all yes. I guess
Speaker 3: it reduces waste in the sense that you're not throwing
Speaker 3: out five tiny bottles, You're throwing out one slightly larger bottle,
Speaker 3: and you're probably reducing the waste.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I would guess by twenty to thirty percent. That's I'm
Speaker 3: just throwing that out there. I'm not great at numbers,
Speaker 3: but that'd be my guess. But then you've also got
Speaker 3: the alternative where sometimes that isn't minimal, and we may
Speaker 3: not it might not be financially sustainable for us to
Speaker 3: be spending a ton of money on these like larger
Speaker 3: bulk items. So that's one of those that can kind
Speaker 3: of go either way, and we'd have to determine what
Speaker 3: will we buy bulk, how will we buy bulk? Is
Speaker 3: it worth it to us to be going to all
Speaker 3: these different stores to do this. So, yeah, there's the
Speaker 3: bulk buying is one that I'm I'm curious about. I'm
Speaker 3: a little bit on the fence.
Speaker 1: With because yeah, it does reduce the cost per ounce,
Speaker 1: but you have to be selective. So instead of getting
Speaker 1: everything bulk, you choose maybe three things. We choose three
Speaker 1: things that we buy in bulk. We go to one store,
Speaker 1: we go to the store that has all of them,
Speaker 1: or we choose the store that's closest to them, and
Speaker 1: whatever store, whatever they have, that's what dictates our bulk.
Speaker 1: Because driving around all over also has an environmental impact
Speaker 1: and it has a time impact, and we're not about
Speaker 1: that either. So sometimes you do have to let your
Speaker 1: location and what's available to you dictate what you keep
Speaker 1: in bulk, and don't get you don't need to get
Speaker 1: everything in bulk. So like, I'm just gonna start with
Speaker 1: brown rice because I use brown rice every week and
Speaker 1: I love that. Bea said that she keeps a jar
Speaker 1: on a rotation of like unique like grains or whatever
Speaker 1: she wants to try, so she doesn't have like twenty
Speaker 1: containers with all these different bulk things, which can be expensive.
Speaker 1: She has her set and then she has one jar
Speaker 1: or one container that if there's something interesting that she
Speaker 1: wants to try, she'll fill it up, and she has
Speaker 1: to use all of that before she can get something
Speaker 1: else that she wants to try. So I actually love
Speaker 1: that too.
Speaker 3: Yes, agreed? All right. This next one, which I am
Speaker 3: all for where we compare frugality with zero waste, is
Speaker 3: mending our things. So if something is broken or torn
Speaker 3: or ripped, we look at mending and fixing. Mending to
Speaker 3: me kind of seems very fabric clothing specific. I would
Speaker 3: take it a step further and just say fixing things
Speaker 3: if something gets broken, rather than throwing it away, tossing
Speaker 3: it to the side, putting it in a junk drawer,
Speaker 3: how can we make this thing useful again, work again,
Speaker 3: serve its purpose again, and picking up a new skill
Speaker 3: set in this regard, I don't think we have to
Speaker 3: all become seamstresses. But if there's a hole in our clothing,
Speaker 3: is there, could we mend it before we go out
Speaker 3: and buy new and just throw it away? So I'm
Speaker 3: I'm all about sewing on buttons, patching up our clothes,
Speaker 3: fixing the things that are broken, which is going to
Speaker 3: also mean that we buy quality things that's worth fixing,
Speaker 3: that's going to last us a long time. That's a
Speaker 3: whole other part of this. When we do buy that
Speaker 3: it's quality, and then we make sure we're going to
Speaker 3: use can be fixed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and some things are created to not be
Speaker 1: able to be fixed. They're just created cheaply. So that
Speaker 1: is something we also have to be intentional about buying.
Speaker 1: Like the author, sorry, the author of this article, did
Speaker 1: you hear my story about my nutribullet? Is that what
Speaker 1: you were bringing up.
Speaker 3: Everyone has a story about a nutribullet not by and
Speaker 3: throwing it out and getting a new on. I went
Speaker 3: through two or three. I've got other friends who, well, nutrible.
Speaker 3: It will never sponsor us because I think that they
Speaker 3: make crap products, at least the one the bullets. Only
Speaker 3: the rubber like melts away and it smells and there's
Speaker 3: no like, how are you gonna fix the rubber that
Speaker 3: melts away? I can't.
Speaker 1: I tried. Wow, Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one. Listen,
Speaker 1: if you work for nutribullet, okay, just let them know.
Speaker 1: But this author of this article talks about trying to
Speaker 1: return a dehumidifier that didn't work and to the manufacturer instead,
Speaker 1: and her husband was like, did you, like, are you
Speaker 1: returning that to be fixed? And she didn't even realize
Speaker 1: that that's what she would be doing. She just thought
Speaker 1: she was going to get a new dehumidifier. And she's like, well,
Speaker 1: I could try. I could just try to repair it myself.
Speaker 1: And I don't necessarily try and recommend trying to repair
Speaker 1: something that might be like defunct or just a lemon,
Speaker 1: but definitely anything that maybe could use it do a repair,
Speaker 1: just try and YouTube it. I had a listener who
Speaker 1: just she was listening to us and then she said
Speaker 1: that her oven went out or something, and she's like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just gonna try. I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: watch YouTube. Or maybe it was her husband or something,
Speaker 1: I don't remember, but they watched YouTube and it ended
Speaker 1: up being like a fifteen thirty dollars fix. Wow, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: to fix, and it's not something like if you realize
Speaker 1: that it's you're in over your head. Once you watch
Speaker 1: the YouTube video, go get it fixed. But if you
Speaker 1: don't try, you'll never know if it's the easy fix
Speaker 1: or the hard fix.
Speaker 3: I will say we've also gotten really great deals on
Speaker 3: things that we've been willing to fix that other people
Speaker 3: are getting rid of. So, for instance, we've been wanting
Speaker 3: this really high end in wall microwave oven combination for
Speaker 3: the kitchen that we're renovating at our house. It's very expensive.
Speaker 3: It's like four to five thousand dollars new, and we're like,
Speaker 3: we're never doing that. Well, one popped up on Facebook
Speaker 3: Marketplace broken for a fraction of that cost, and we
Speaker 3: snagged it and Eric is fixing it and we're gonna
Speaker 3: have like we're going to keep that out of the
Speaker 3: landfill because the manufacturer eventually told this person like, we're
Speaker 3: just replacing it, so do what you want with it,
Speaker 3: like meaning just like go ahead and throw it out,
Speaker 3: this massive appliance. And so them, good on them that
Speaker 3: they decided not to just throw it away and find
Speaker 3: a new home for it. And then if you do
Speaker 3: have some of those problem solving ability to fix things,
Speaker 3: now we'll be able to give it a new life.
Speaker 3: We got a great deal and it's going to make
Speaker 3: our kitchen look amazing. So win win, win, win, win
Speaker 3: win win win. When you mendn't fix.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and or if you're not handy like that, you
Speaker 1: have a friend that is, you can see if they
Speaker 1: will like do it for money. Some people like to
Speaker 1: just toy around with those things or be helpful and
Speaker 1: be like, hey, like I have this, if I got
Speaker 1: this for free or whatever, would you fix it? I'll
Speaker 1: pay you, And that could be a thing too. Oh,
Speaker 1: so many options. There's always a third option.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 1: The next one is probably one of our favorites, if
Speaker 1: not our ultimate favorite. It is mindful purchases. And that's
Speaker 1: kind of what we're all about. Intentional spending, conscious consumerism,
Speaker 1: mindful purchase, whatever you want to call it, but realizing
Speaker 1: what your values are, and then making sure you all
Speaker 1: of your spending, not just your discretionary but like your
Speaker 1: mandatory quote unquote spending as well, is aligned with those values.
Speaker 1: I think the hardest part in that equation isn't making
Speaker 1: the mindful purchases. It's actually figuring out what your core
Speaker 1: values are. Because our core values are so often influenced
Speaker 1: by media, friends, family, coworkers, jobs, whatever, it's very hard
Speaker 1: to figure out what do I actually want to have
Speaker 1: in my life, what do I want to live in,
Speaker 1: what do I want to acqu have not have. It's
Speaker 1: hard to figure that out and that's what you need
Speaker 1: to do in order to be able to make mindful purchases.
Speaker 1: And that on the flip side with also being aware
Speaker 1: of the impact behind the things you are consuming, so
Speaker 1: the journey that it took to get wherever you are.
Speaker 3: So this is some I mean, mindful purchases is not
Speaker 3: just a tip on some article. It is the foundation
Speaker 3: of frugality. I think that is when someone asks us
Speaker 3: to define frugality, it is some version of mindful spending
Speaker 3: then being intentional with your resources. That's it. So done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if my mic was not on a stand, i'd
Speaker 1: drop it right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you could. You could throw it on the
Speaker 3: ground if you want, just to prove your point.
Speaker 1: No, I love I love my mic. Just leave it here.
Speaker 3: So the article also mentions as a tip in this
Speaker 3: space free activities. It might seem at first like it
Speaker 3: doesn't fit, but as we engage in free activities, generally
Speaker 3: we're not engaging in purchasing things, collecting things, gathering things,
Speaker 3: and so there can be a pairing of engaging in
Speaker 3: fun free things that mean zero waste. So when we
Speaker 3: enjoy time on the weekend with friends with family in
Speaker 3: things that are free, and we also are able to
Speaker 3: implement the refuse reduce reuse mentality. Then this is a
Speaker 3: helpful kind of frugal zero waste pairing.
Speaker 1: And the last one on this list re using containers.
Speaker 1: So definitely if you want to do this, get your
Speaker 1: glass jars or look at your thrift stores. I am
Speaker 1: still in the market for some more glass containers that
Speaker 1: look esthetically pleasing. I have open shelving and I care
Speaker 1: about that stuff, but there are some pretty good looking
Speaker 1: glass containers that food comes in, so be on the
Speaker 1: lookout for that. And if you have any suggestions, dm
Speaker 1: us on Instagram and let us know what we should
Speaker 1: be what food we should be consuming to get those
Speaker 1: cool glass.
Speaker 3: Jars that or yeah, finding them secondhand. Definitely will not
Speaker 3: be buying them used. And I like the tips that
Speaker 3: they give for how we can reuse some containers. One
Speaker 3: of my go tos for glass jars is to keep
Speaker 3: hold on to some them. Again, this is where it
Speaker 3: bumps up against my minimalism. I don't want to have
Speaker 3: an entire cabinet dedicated to glass jar empty glass jars.
Speaker 3: But if I give flowers as a gift to somebody,
Speaker 3: or sometimes I'll make like an antipasta or an appetizer
Speaker 3: of some sort, and that's an easy way to give
Speaker 3: it to people and not require them to be giving
Speaker 3: back the container. So I'll kind of keep some things
Speaker 3: around so that I can gift things to people and
Speaker 3: not have to purchase containers for it or be putting
Speaker 3: the pressure on them to get my container back to me.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, but you know what, there's never any pressure to
Speaker 1: give back to the people.
Speaker 3: And always it always does give, never, never, hardly resist.
Speaker 1: This is zero waste for sure. The bill of the week.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 5: It's time for the best minute of your entire week.
Speaker 5: Maybe a baby was born and his name is Williams.
Speaker 5: Maybe you've paid off your mortgage, maybe your car died
Speaker 5: and you're happy to not have to pay that bill anymore.
Speaker 5: That's bills, Buffalo bills, Bill Clion, this is the bill
Speaker 5: of the week.
Speaker 4: Hi Jen and Jill. My name is Amy. I live
Speaker 4: in Albuquerque, New Mexico, and my bill of the week
Speaker 4: is my dad, William but known to everyone else as Bill.
Speaker 4: My dad was a minimalistic, frugal, simple living, non materialistic
Speaker 4: person before it was cool. He's content with living a
Speaker 4: simple life, and so when my brothers and I try
Speaker 4: to pick his brain for potential Birthday or Christmas gifts.
Speaker 4: His response is usually I could use a new fish
Speaker 4: filter for his aquarium and they cost like ten dollars.
Speaker 4: So I just want to say cheers to my dad
Speaker 4: who keeps things simple but frust rights those of us
Speaker 4: who want to buy him presence because he does not
Speaker 4: care for material things. Thanks ladies, keep up the good work,
Speaker 4: love the show, Oh.
Speaker 1: Amy, Marie, I am I am in love with your dad, Bill.
Speaker 1: He sounds like the best.
Speaker 3: Bill sounds so great. Bill, Thank you for paving the
Speaker 3: way for your family and this minimalism, contentment, simple living
Speaker 3: that doesn't require much. But you also just sound like
Speaker 3: an amazing person with rich relationship with those around you,
Speaker 3: which I think is what this can lead to. Like
Speaker 3: it can be a byproduct, this minimalism, simple living can
Speaker 3: lead to contentment, which leads to yeah, it can better
Speaker 3: relationships with people and just time enjoyed together. And how
Speaker 3: amazing Amy to hear how much you enjoy and admire
Speaker 3: your dad in this. Well done and thanks Bill, what
Speaker 3: a great Bill.
Speaker 1: If you want to submit your Bill of the week,
Speaker 1: visit Frugal Friends podcast dot com slash bill to leave
Speaker 1: us your dad bill, your duck bill, your man bill,
Speaker 1: any bill.
Speaker 3: And now it's time for.
Speaker 1: This is the part of the show where our podcast
Speaker 1: manager Goldie asks us a question to get us vulnerable.
Speaker 1: I no longer make up the questions because Jill feels
Speaker 1: attacked when I, like, you know too much typically for Yeah,
Speaker 1: So now Goldie does it, and now it's fun because
Speaker 1: I don't see the question until right before it comes.
Speaker 1: So this week's question, what are your compromise items like
Speaker 1: not zero waste but still eco friendly? Go for it, June, Jill.
Speaker 3: What is it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you kind of took mine, so can you go
Speaker 1: first so that I can think of another one.
Speaker 3: I don't know if this is ego friendly, but toilet paper,
Speaker 3: I can't give that up. That's my that's my no
Speaker 3: compromise item. I don't know that there's ever going to
Speaker 3: be a time when I say no to toilet paper. However, well,
Speaker 3: hold on, as I'm thinking out loud and that problem solving,
Speaker 3: creative juices are flowing.
Speaker 1: What's the third way, Jill?
Speaker 3: The third way is a bedet. Oh it rhymes two.
Speaker 1: The way is the bedet. That's a lot. That's a
Speaker 1: big transition people who have all those Oh, I'm sure
Speaker 1: they do have a bidet.
Speaker 3: Love their third way.
Speaker 1: I am squirming thinking about it. I ooh, what is
Speaker 1: my compromise? Yeah, no, I'll never give up toilet paper. Okay,
Speaker 1: so here, okay, So this isn't zero waste, I guess.
Speaker 1: But I actually I like I have to have a
Speaker 1: certain hair care product, like shampoo and conditioner. I have
Speaker 1: heard all of the ideas, and the shampoo bars and
Speaker 1: the all of the apple cider. I've heard all of
Speaker 1: the ideas. But if you had my hair, which is
Speaker 1: very curly and very thin, you would know that I
Speaker 1: am fighting a battle and I can't. I can't go
Speaker 1: zero waste.
Speaker 3: If I had your hair, I'd be happier. I mean,
Speaker 3: but you know what the gift to me is that
Speaker 3: I get to look at it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and my son has the same hair, and everyone's
Speaker 1: always trying to touch it and complimenting it. And I
Speaker 1: feel complimented by proxy because nobody does that to me.
Speaker 1: Such a cumute all. But yeah, but so I think
Speaker 1: the I do always recycle the plastic containers that they
Speaker 1: come in, and I think next time I will see
Speaker 1: if I can buy a larger size than what I
Speaker 1: currently have. I think those are my alternate and Okay,
Speaker 1: so also I only shampoo my hair once a week.
Speaker 1: All the other times I will condition it, and I
Speaker 1: only condition it maybe like two or three times a week.
Speaker 1: All the other times I just like wet it because
Speaker 1: I do work out most mornings, and sometimes I'll just
Speaker 1: either not wash it or just wet it. So that's
Speaker 1: a zero waste thing that I do. But I gotta
Speaker 1: have I gotta have the right hair care.
Speaker 3: Oh and rest assured. This is not the only area
Speaker 3: where our lives need improvement. There's so many other shifts
Speaker 3: and changes we can be making. But I think, like
Speaker 3: we said at the beginning, we'll say at the end,
Speaker 3: it is about making small adjustments as we go and
Speaker 3: as we can see the low hanging fruit of what
Speaker 3: needs to shift. Like I got stressed yesterday about the
Speaker 3: junk mail that's coming. It's like, well, this shouldn't be
Speaker 3: my first step. If I'm also still using paper towels,
Speaker 3: I shouldn't be hunting down and spending a ton of
Speaker 3: time making sure the local Catholic church doesn't send me
Speaker 3: like flyers all the time. It should be what am
Speaker 3: I doing in my own personal life currently. That could
Speaker 3: be a drastic shift, more drastic than the flyers that
Speaker 3: come to my door.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah. I think refuse is the hardest thing for us,
Speaker 1: especially Travis. Travis still refuses to refuse. It's been two
Speaker 1: years that we've been talking about this, and he refuses
Speaker 1: to refuse, and so he's maybe taking it still too
Speaker 1: close to heart and so. But I have gotten a
Speaker 1: lot better at not allowing some things to come into
Speaker 1: my home and then just kind of like reusing as
Speaker 1: much as possible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, on any given day, my refusal might be stronger
Speaker 3: than another day. Somebody just gave me free koozies, you know,
Speaker 3: to wrap around a drink, and I should have said
Speaker 3: no to them, but I just dincepted and my will
Speaker 3: power was low.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I never used koozies. Yeah, I don't drink.
Speaker 3: I do at the beach, just for any kind of drink, Like, Yeah,
Speaker 3: they're just helpful.
Speaker 1: Yeah at the beach. I don't go to the beach.
Speaker 3: We do use them, we just don't we just to
Speaker 3: need two more.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I was holding on to like six from
Speaker 1: Jess and Joseph's wedding, Yes, because I had two in
Speaker 1: each color, and I finally whittled it down to one,
Speaker 1: one in my favorite color.
Speaker 3: Just for you. No one else gets a kuzzi in
Speaker 3: the house, just just me. Well, and I am continuing
Speaker 3: to use regular toilet paper. We're not on the reusing.
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Speaker 3: Sometimes you do make me laugh like legit, and I
Speaker 3: can't help the fact that, yeah, we're still recording, but
Speaker 3: I'm laughing.
Speaker 1: We we came in this morning. I'm just gonna give
Speaker 1: you all more transparency. We came in this morning and
Speaker 1: neither of us were having a good day. We were
Speaker 1: we hadn't had a good three previous days or year
Speaker 1: that's are Yeah, I mean life's been rough. I mean
Speaker 1: it's been rough.
Speaker 3: But den it gets only gonna get worse.
Speaker 1: Wow, this is where we're at. It's sometimes you're in
Speaker 1: these seasons and they are not great. Yeah, they are
Speaker 1: not great.
Speaker 3: But you know what we're trying on just for size,
Speaker 3: just to see if we can like mindset trick ourselves,
Speaker 3: because it is kind of what we preach. We don't
Speaker 3: preach tricker, right, but just saying, you know what, it's
Speaker 3: a great day, because we'll probably look back on this
Speaker 3: day at some other day in the future that is
Speaker 3: really really rough, potentially more rough than this, and think
Speaker 3: that was a great day.
Speaker 1: We had it bad.
Speaker 3: Then look at us now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're we're not negating how sucky this season is
Speaker 1: right now, but like knowing that there's there are harder
Speaker 1: days ahead eventually at some point.
Speaker 3: Hopefully beat our days ahead to yea.
Speaker 1: God help us hopefully. And you know, we just got
Speaker 1: to hold the tension between both kinds of days and
Speaker 1: then we can sit here and laugh with each other
Speaker 1: and call it a great day, and call it a
Speaker 1: great day