WEBVTT - Hour 2 - Mike Golic Senior & Junior 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:03.720 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:04.600 Sports Radio. 0:00:05.040 --> 0:00:09.720 Yeah, welcome to the program. You're truly here the brock 0:00:09.800 --> 0:00:13.600 purty of radio host. I'm a radio manager is what 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:18.280 I am. Radio manager. Welcome to the beautiful Fountain Blue Hotel, 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:21.840 the newest luxury resort on the Las Vegas Strip, just 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:24.960 opened in December, and they are our host. We're pool 0:00:25.079 --> 0:00:28.280 side here with a great studio audience that came as 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:33.280 far away as Henderson, Nevada, which is about ten miles away. 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:37.200 Yeah, Awton prayers. 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O? 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:02.000 Body? 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:05.200 Alrighty stat of the day brought to you by Panini America, 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:08.720 the official trading cards of this program. All right, poll 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:11.040 question seton what do we go with with our one 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:13.440 and then we'll turn our attention to him two? Well, 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:15.400 we got two working from our one. Dan who ends 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:18.639 up in the fun blue pool if you think Dan 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:24.200 will right now? The likes not as many, but Fritzy 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:25.799 leading with them. 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:28.440 That's not exactly shocking. Yeah, that the to double D 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:29.480 would end up in the pool. 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:32.080 We got to get the fans what they want accident like. 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:33.920 By the way, if you're watching on Peacock, thank you 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:34.800 are streaming partner. 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:38.240 Todd, that is my aluminum foil elvis. 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:42.200 Yes, yes, looks like it fits you will means it's 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:45.760 extremely tighter. That's Taylor right, Yeah, yeah, yes, but. 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:47.320 Todd looks like one of those guys who runs in 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:49.359 New York Marathon and they put that silver wrap around 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:51.359 him at the end, but he doesn't look like he 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:52.640 look like a guy ran the marathon. 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:54.720 He looks like with a rap on. Yes, snug, it's snug. 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:57.880 Yeah, what else do you have for me? Seaton? Are 0:02:57.880 --> 0:02:59.480 the Kansas City Chiefs America's team? 0:02:59.560 --> 0:02:59.720 Dan? 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:03.320 Now, eighty four percent of the audience are furious at 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:08.360 that pole question. Maybe that means they are a lot 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:11.240 of people say no, no, that means they're not America's team. 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:13.400 And a lot of people writing in Michigan are now 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:14.239 America's team. 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:17.160 That's that's not true. That is bold. 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:20.480 That is not true. Yeah, no, yeah, I think Kansas City. 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:23.640 I understand why they might be there. There may be 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:27.240 the most popular team right now, Yes, Martin. 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:29.480 In about twenty years, all these ten year olds that 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:31.720 love the Chiefs, now, in twenty years they'll be rooting 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:32.480 for the Chiefs when they. 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:33.400 Sorry, no, no, no, no. 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:37.440 We got to make sure that Taylor and Travis stay 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:41.040 together because if they break up, the Swifties are gone. 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:41.880 Cigya. 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:46.800 So okay, if the Swifties leave the Chiefs, what would 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:48.040 be the polar opposite. 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:48.280 Of the Chiefs. 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:50.520 Whoever Taylor starts dating after that? 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:51.000 Right? 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:55.800 So Max Crosby would be a cowboy right own Raider fan, just. 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:58.240 Thinking maybe she ends up with the like a Vegas 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:00.240 residency and then all of a sudden she as. 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:00.680 A Raiders fan. 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:03.240 Yeah, I don't know that can happen, and then doing 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:05.840 that dating Aidan O'Connell or something. 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:09.240 Is that the Raiders quarterback for the time being a 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:11.280 good call, Thank you, Ton, thank you. 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:13.920 I do this for a living. 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:17.280 Yeah, you said it kind of quizzically, like I think maybe. 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:20.800 I know sometimes I do that. It's like I know it, 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:22.159 but I say it like I don't know. 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:23.480 I think I've worked with you, while I would know 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:23.960 what you're I. 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:25.520 Mean, technically, we all do this for a living and 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:27.160 there's no way I was pulling that name out. 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:30.080 And also, the Raiders had three offensive coordinators this week, 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:31.640 so we don't really know what's going on over there. 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:36.080 Did Cliff Kingsbury get the judge? He stayed with the 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:38.440 Raiders as long as he did USC, didn't yea. 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:40.800 His first in at USC. He did three days and 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:42.479 then took the job with the Airs on the Cardinals. 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:44.800 I think he did seventy two hours as the offensive 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:45.640 cordator of the Raiders. 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:48.279 Left his car running, and now he's with the Washington command. 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:52.040 Okay, where's Eric the enemy? Wasn't he the offensive coordinator 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:52.719 with the Commanders? 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:55.000 He was hot about three years? 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:58.560 Yes he was, Yes, he was all right. It's uh. 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:00.599 You know one of our big story worries that we 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:03.800 started off with today and it happened on Friday, and 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:05.760 Pauline and I were talking about this over the weekend. 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:08.080 I was like, wow, like that news came out on 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:11.400 Friday afternoon that the Big Ten and the SEC are 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:15.040 kind of friends. There's a partnership. It feels like here. 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:20.760 Nicole Arbach, senior writer for The Athletic and College Football Insider, 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:22.920 wrote about this and we thought, you know, what. That's 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:24.840 how big this story is, at least I think it 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.440 is of where we're headed and Nicole joins us on 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:30.760 the program. Nicole, thanks for joining us. Explain what happened 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:35.200 on Friday. I think I'm having audio problems with you, Nicole. 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:37.280 Hold on, let me see if we can get that 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:41.560 figured out here. But this came on Friday, and you know, 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:43.960 trying to figure out if this was going to lead 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:45.920 to something here in the near future, and that's why 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:48.000 we wanted to have Nicole on. But we'll figure this 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:50.800 out since we are on the road and trying to 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:54.080 get signals uncrossed here. 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:58.480 It's really a fascinating thing because you know, Friday is 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:00.520 where stories you got, you know, Dania's sports media is 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:02.120 where you want to place a story that you don't 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:03.320 want to get a lot of coverage. 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:03.919 It's almost like. 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:06.200 The SEC and Greg Sanki when he tweeted this out, 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:09.320 they post it and then like as also leading in 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:11.120 the Super Bowl week, it's like where we want to 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:13.000 make this official that there's a partnership, but we want 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:15.680 to go revert back into the night and let it 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:16.440 just be out there. 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:17.599 That's the feeling I got. 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:19.680 Well, sometimes do you put out a story and then 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:21.640 you want to see how people react to the story. 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:23.960 And that might be the case in a situation like that, 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:26.760 but also what does it mean going forward with the 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:29.839 big ten in the SEC And I think you know, 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:31.960 when you start to look at college football with what 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:34.680 is the blueprint right now for college football of where 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:36.919 they want to be now where you know, now you 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:39.600 have a twelve team playoff and where you know what 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:42.000 that's going to mean here as we you know, in 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:43.400 the next five years, Yes, Paul. 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:44.080 And it could be interesting. 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:46.000 A lot of people when all these changes happening were 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:48.839 bothered to be like, you know, the Pac twelve volleyball 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:51.440 team would now have to you know, go play Rutgers 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:53.280 and travel around the country. It may take a few 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:55.000 years for this to shake back out, but like see 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:57.120 was saying earlier and you were saying earlier, we may 0:06:57.160 --> 0:07:00.640 revert back to normal conferences and normal ty ravel schedules 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:03.000 for the rest of college athletics in a couple of years. 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:04.719 It may take a while to shake out with college but. 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:07.000 You know what, Chip Kelly brought this up and Ship said, 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:09.560 why are we going all around the country? Why don't 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:12.960 we have all the other sports be regional where it's 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:16.760 baseball and you can even say basketball, but baseball and 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:19.560 volleyball and some of the other ancillary sports golf, where 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:21.960 you're not traveling all over the world, you know, to 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:24.640 try to play these schools in your conference here that 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:27.760 you're able to, you know, kind of make it sane 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:30.640 for the most part for these kids. Football, I get 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:33.400 you're going for one game on Saturday. You know, the 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:36.280 other sports, you got all kinds of games that you 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:38.960 might be playing, and you know, trying to travel a Yeah, 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:40.239 it just doesn't make any sense. 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:42.800 And that's really gonna be interesting because that Greg Sankie 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:46.040 who runs the SEC, it almost feels like he's about 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:49.960 to be the czar, the president of college football in America. 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.440 What it feels like he's the most important person in 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:54.640 college football right now. I think that would be fair 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:57.320 to say, and we've said this before, he should just say, look, 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:01.800 I'm running college football and he lets others sing it. Yeah, 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:04.360 and that's Whereking at it. Greg Sanke is going to 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:07.440 be running college football. I truly believe that. It's because 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:09.720 you know, he's the power broker with the SEC. Now 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:11.560 you get the Big ten, are we going to get 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:13.080 Nicole on with us. 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:15.080 I think they're still working on a technical issue. 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:16.120 Okay in the control room. 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:18.760 All right, should we maybe try to have her come 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:19.960 on at some other point there? 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:22.000 Ton, it's going to probably become that situation. 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:27.600 Okay, all right, do we have Nicole? Are we good 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:30.840 to go? All right, Nicole, let's try this again, big 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:34.200 introduction for you, senior writer for the Athletic and College 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:37.280 Football Insider. What happened on Friday? 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:47.560 Nicole? Nope, but it didn't. Didn't happen again? All right? Well, Nicole, 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:53.960 blame it on me? Where top still at? Yeah? Maybe 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:56.800 maybe the goal? Kim, what's going on with football? 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:01.120 No, we don't need music, No, we were looking for 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:04.200 Nicole orb No we still don't. Yeah. 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:07.280 Music is nice, Yeah, yeah, very calm. 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:11.559 It's like they've been jamming an elevator. Oh yeah, yeah. 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:12.520 They have this song. 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:15.240 So when in the Fountain Blue Hotel, when you go in, 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:17.680 your TV is on in your room and had this 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:21.320 lovely things that welcome see O'Connor, welcome Paul PEPs. But 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:23.000 then they have this music playing and it's like they 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.679 recorded it and it's a it's like a lounge singer 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:28.040 going welcome to I can't say the. 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:33.640 Fountain your dreams will come true at the fountains in Blue. 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:35.400 And I just leave it on for hours at a time. 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:36.400 It's it's very soothing. 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:39.200 It's all because you see, this is what happened when 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:41.800 we have a technical issue and then I'm subjected to 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:43.080 that that you know. 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:51.760 Wait is that Nicole? Okay? Nicole? 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:55.840 Yeah, can you hear me? 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:57.000 We got it? 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:04.840 Okay, Yeah, Sorry Nicole, we ran out of time, so 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:08.600 I can't talk to you. Uh okay, let me try 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:13.800 this again. What happened on Friday, Nicole, Well. 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:15.720 As you guys were talking about, it was kind of 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:20.360 a formal announcement of friendship and a partnership between the 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:22.000 Big Ten and the SEC. 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:23.880 You know, they have been. 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:27.280 Growing closer and the commissioners have been getting along spending 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:29.200 a lot of time together over the last year since 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:32.559 Tony Petiti took over the Big Ten and the ads 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:34.959 in this in both leagues bounce things off of each 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:38.960 other because these are two conferences who face similar challenges, 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:41.280 right Like, they're dealing with the same types of budgets, 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:44.120 they're dealing with the same types of lawsuits, so they're 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:48.560 essentially forming this joint advisory group to look at those issues, 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:52.320 the lawsuits that they're facing, employment model, what happens if 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:56.240 athletes become employees, and some of those bigger problems that 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:59.320 college sport's facing. A lot of people, including Greg Sank, 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:02.640 have into the lack of leadership and certainly lack of 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:04.920 leadership from the NC DOUBLEA. So I think that's what 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:08.200 this is really about, is about these two commissioners, these 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:11.760 two conferences trying to take the lead and figure out 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:13.080 the future of college sports. 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:16.400 Now there's a line or a paragraph in your column 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:19.160 and said there are legal risks that come with too 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:24.079 much collaboration. Now that two conferences represent thirty four total schools, 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:27.280 so those critical relationships will need to walk a fine 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:30.479 line between cooperation and collusion. 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:34.280 Explain then, right, So that's one of the issues when 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:37.200 you are the subject of a lot of lawsuits right now, 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:39.280 and there's just a lot of bulls eye on your back. 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:43.199 And I think you know, part of the reason that 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:46.080 the NC DOUBLEA has been a target or individuals have 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:49.800 been targeted by different lawsuits is that they're agreeing to 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:53.559 cap compensation or they're agreeing to have certain rules, and 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:56.560 that they are restricting the market, right, So I think 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:58.960 you know when they say okay, we're going to make 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:01.080 certain rules are going to be up to individual schools 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:04.160 like NIL or conferences could set rules around certain things. 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:07.520 It's a small enough group of people and in schools 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:11.160 that they're they're hoping to avoid the legal risks involved. 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:13.400 So that's part of the concern here. And I think again, 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:16.720 a joint advisory group, it's a governing body that isn't 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:18.960 governing anything, right, They're going to work together, but they're 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:21.400 not going to have any power, so they're going to lead, 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:23.800 they're going to suggest things. But again I think they're 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:26.320 being really strategic here because they're fighting a lot of 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:29.160 different lawsuits that are worth a lot of money. But 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:32.280 they want to create some sort of solutions that are 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:35.560 workable for their schools. And obviously they're dealing with that 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:38.600 top one percent of athletes that are making the most 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:41.000 money off of NIL that are going to run into 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:45.920 issues with these major lawsuits about back pay salaries. They've 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:48.120 got those football players that are going that are the 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:50.559 ones who are stressing the system in terms of money. 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:53.360 So they want to be the ones creating solutions instead 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:56.559 of Charlie Baker and the NCAA suggesting things that they 0:12:57.080 --> 0:12:59.000 maybe or maybe don't want to pay for. 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:02.719 If you look at the blueprint here, and I've been 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:04.800 saying all along, it's not a question of if, but 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:07.760 when that we get this model that may be similar 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:10.360 to the Premier League or the NFL, that we're going 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:14.440 to get maybe fifty of the biggest school's football schools, 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:17.040 and then they just create a model where you have 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:21.120 divisions and conferences here. Do you see a timeframe where 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:22.240 that's where we're headed? 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:25.480 You know, I've felt that way for a while. I 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:27.839 think a lot of people do. We're in this gray 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:31.000 area as we are going from how it used to 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:33.320 be for a really long time to what it will 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:33.960 eventually be. 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:34.480 It's part of the. 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:37.079 Reason I don't get two worked up about NIL issues, 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:39.240 because like, this is not going to be the business 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:41.720 model that we end up with in five ten years. 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:44.640 You just we're waiting for that final domino tofall. But 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:46.760 I do think that at some point you will have 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:49.840 to separate or sort of opt into the highest level 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:52.520 of commitment in football, because not everyone's going to be 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:56.520 able to afford to fund it, and especially if you 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:59.280 have to pay all your athletes. Let's say the Johnson case, 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:01.679 which is working a way through the court system. If 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:04.920 that's the domino, then every athlete is like, okay, we're 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:08.480 hourly wage employees. That's every single sport. So who can 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:10.679 afford to do that and still invest in football in 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:12.880 the highest level. I think there's a lot of different 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:15.560 creative ideas that are out there, but I think everyone 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:18.080 has kind of come to the terms that it's not 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:19.760 going to look like what it is now. You're not 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:22.760 going to have one hundred and thirty three FBS programs 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:25.840 in the same quote highest level of college football. It 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:29.000 will be who can pay their players, if their employees, 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:31.200 and then still pay their coaches and then still have 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:35.760 the great resources. So there will be a further stratification 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:38.640 of what already exists. I think in college football. I 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:40.440 don't know what the timeline is because we have to 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:42.920 let all of these things play out here in terms 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:47.760 of what the actual financial and the business model of 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:51.240 college sports looks like. But even in the suggestion from 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:55.360 new NCAA president Charlie Baker of a new subdivision, it's 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:57.240 the same sort of idea. It's like, all right, if 0:14:57.280 --> 0:15:00.400 you could afford to pay your athletes a minimum thirty 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:03.920 thousand dollars each per year. For half your athletes you 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:08.880 opt into this level. That would call the voting roles right. 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:11.800 That would separate out the people who can't actually afford 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:14.360 to do things but are too afraid to drop down 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:16.160 a level right now, So I think you have to 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:19.360 let some of that play out before we eventually get 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:21.320 to a new world. And you know, Dan, just to 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:24.720 further that point, I would love to see a reregionalization 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:26.720 of all the other sports. I would love to see 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:30.520 football pulled out separately and do football schedules, do all 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:32.600 that on its own, but go back to some of 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:37.040 those rivalries and the tradition and the reduced travel for 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:38.479 all of the other sports. 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:41.560 Thanks for being a good sport, Nicole, Thanks for joining us. 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:43.480 We'll do better next time, I promise. 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:45.160 Thanks for having me. 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:48.120 That's Nicole Arbach, a senior writer for The Athletic and 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:52.520 College Football Insider Big ten Network studio analyst as well. 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:55.040 Yes, Paul, I gotta tell you, she seemed pretty impressed 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:55.800 with our organization. 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:58.200 Yes she did. She's like, I want to work for 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:00.560 those guys. I'm the Dan Patcher. So super Bowl Week 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:01.400 what an honor? Yeah? 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:07.200 Yeah, yeah, pretty pretty impress take that athletic? Yeah, how 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:12.160 about that? I'd like to know what was going on 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:12.960 behind the scenes. 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:14.520 Gets a little chaotic in. 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:15.600 TV control, it does? 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:17.080 It dons a little bit if you had a little 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:17.440 taste of that. 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:18.960 Do you think some people are getting yelled at? 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:21.480 I think people are getting yelled at this maybe language involved. 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:22.520 Were you getting yelled at? 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:26.200 I was not personally getting okay, well, but it does 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:28.200 end up coming back towards me. But that's the right 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:28.880 that's get in. 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:31.520 Yeah, Marvin, you said you want to hear what happened 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:34.280 back there? Yeah, no, I don't know. You've been back 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:34.760 there before. 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:35.320 I've been back there. 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:38.560 Yeah, you said you hit the wrong button. 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:42.480 But even if it's not you, it's always awkward, like 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:44.960 but also you're like, I'm glad. 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:45.280 I'm not him. 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:48.320 If people got a chance, see, that's what they should do. 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:50.400 They should give you a look at what goes on 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:54.080 during a football game, big time football game where the 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:57.200 you know, the director, and nobody's supposed to take it personally, 0:16:57.680 --> 0:16:59.640 but you know, when he's telling you to do something 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:01.640 and it didn't happened, and then all of a sudden 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:05.040 there's just flame. It's a flamethrower. And then when it's 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:07.439 all said and done, everybody gets together and they're supposed 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:09.560 to go. Yeah, you know, he called me some words 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:11.880 that you know, I never used that language, but I'm 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:12.920 supposed to forget about it. 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:16.080 Yes, Seaton that when I first started at ESPN, I 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:17.360 worked on a boxing show. 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:19.040 Called Friday Night Fights. You don't even know if they 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:19.840 still do that anymore. 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:21.800 I'd never worked in TV before ever, and I was 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:24.800 a production assistant and my very first show, the director 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:28.520 was screaming at the three production assistants, calling us every name. 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:30.320 He would possibly where. I was like, holy crap, this 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:32.680 is with TV? Is this is crazy? He was like 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:35.320 A this, and U MF that and all of these 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:37.000 crazy things. And then as soon as the show was over, 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:39.560 he's like, hey, guys, great job. Tell it dude. You 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:42.240 have any idea what you just said to me? Hey guys, 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:43.920 great job tonight or I'm not bad for your first 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:47.440 roun is what that prepared you for this job? Okay? 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:49.159 Some similarities, yes, Tom, I was. 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:50.880 Doing graphics and video and like you put the wrong 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:52.679 Kira on up. He's talking about Pro Bowls and you're 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:54.640 putting up his stat about an All Star game whatever. 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:56.760 And then they had me working video where they're talking 0:17:56.760 --> 0:17:58.439 about a certain play and you got to cue up 0:17:58.440 --> 0:17:59.560 the video and give it me to play it. 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:01.560 And guess it's a difference between stand By B. 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:02.119 And roll B. 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:04.560