1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: From robotaxis to AI chips, Bloomberg's at ludlowis standing by 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,239 Speaker 2: with Advanced micro Devices CEO Lisa Sue, who joins them 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: live from AMD's Advancing AI event in California where they 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 2: just unveiled their latest generation of chips. 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: ED. 7 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 3: That's right, Scarlett and Lisa Sue celebrating ten years as 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 3: CEO of AMD. Lisa m I three twenty five X. 9 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 3: Everyone I speak to in the world of technology accepts 10 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 3: and sees that AMD is the number two rival behind Nvidia. 11 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:43,639 Speaker 3: How does the latest accelerator change that competitive landscape in 12 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 3: that market? 13 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: Well, first of all, Ed, it's great to be here 14 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: with you today, Thank you for having us. It was 15 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: a big day for us. We talked about so many 16 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: new technologies. We launched a number of new products. We 17 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: launched our new fifth gen epic server product called Turn. 18 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: We launched MI I three twenty five and talked about 19 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: our future roadmap and I three fifty and beyond. We 20 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: talked about aipcs and networking. So it's been a great 21 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: day as it relates to you know, MI I three 22 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: twenty five and what we're doing in the data center 23 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: accelerator market. I mean, this is such an exciting market 24 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: right now. There's so much demand overall for new AI capability, 25 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: and you know, we are doing extremely well. We had 26 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 1: a number of customers on stage with us today too, 27 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: including Microsoft, Meta, Oracle, number of new AI companies as 28 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: well as all of the major OEMs, and everyone is 29 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: excited about MI three twenty five and the roadmap. 30 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 3: Ahead, and yet shares closed down four percent. The disappointment 31 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 3: is not in the long term, right you updated the 32 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 3: forecast for the market five hundred billion dollars in twenty 33 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 3: twenty eight. But what can you tell me or how 34 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 3: can you quantify the near term demand of those new 35 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 3: customers that you just outlined. 36 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: Well, you know, the best thing to say is this 37 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: is an incredibly fast growing market. I mean, if you 38 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: think about you know, what we've done just over the 39 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: last twelve months or so, we've seen three hundred demand 40 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: increase from when we started the year to In our 41 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: most recent earnings, we actually said we would be over 42 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: four and a half billion dollars in this important AI 43 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 1: accelerator market. You know, we view this as a multi 44 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: year opportunity for us, And what's really important. You know, 45 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: what our customers say is, you know, we've shown that 46 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,839 Speaker 1: we have excellent hardware, but even more importantly, we've made 47 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: tremendous progress in the overall software roadmap. And what that 48 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: allows is that allows customers to get to market, you know, 49 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: as fast as possible. So we're seeing, you know, with 50 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: three twenty five, we expect the new chips to be 51 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: anywhere from twenty to forty percent higher performance on key 52 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: inferencing workloads than the competition. And that's a great place 53 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: to be. 54 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: Lisa, describe the demand for your AI products in just 55 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 3: a single word, amazing. Give me more than that. How 56 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 3: is this different to a year ago? You remember us 57 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 3: sitting in San Jose, right, we were sitting together and 58 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 3: it was the start of a very different time in 59 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 3: the investment cycle. How is it different now? 60 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: Well, I think so In a single word, the best 61 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: thing to say is it's an accelerating market. And you 62 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: know what we see is so many new applications, so 63 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: many new opportunities to use AI. We're at the very 64 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: beginning of the cycle. And one of the things that 65 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: I've been very very encouraged that is, you know, when 66 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: we started maybe twelve months ago, you would see that, 67 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: you know, there would be a lot of people trying things, 68 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: but it would actually take them a while to cut 69 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: over to their production environment. That's actually much faster now. 70 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: And what that means is, you know, there is more 71 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: demand for AI capability. But we've also significantly improved our 72 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: tools and overall software infrastructure. Sure. You know, we call 73 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: our software suite something called rock Them and it has 74 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: just made tremendous progress over the last ten to eleven months. 75 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: That really allows customers to adopt our solutions much much faster. 76 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: And that's the key for innovation is to try to 77 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: get as much in as fast as possible. 78 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 3: And CPU as well. If you're an investor on Wall Street, 79 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 3: or you are a retail investor, or you're a technologist 80 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 3: or dare I say it a technology journalist, everyone is 81 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 3: so over indexed to GPU. I really want to know 82 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 3: if you see a sort of revision back towards emphasis 83 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 3: on CPU with all of the data center investment and 84 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 3: build out that is to come. 85 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: I think the most important thing to think about when 86 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: you think about data center infrastructure is there is no 87 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,239 Speaker 1: one size fits all in computing. You know, you need 88 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: great CPUs, you need great GPUs, you need to be 89 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: able to bring those together in systems. You need to 90 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: have all these different types of you need to have. Frankly, 91 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: AIPCS is another category that we find to be a 92 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: very interesting and exciting category. So when you put all 93 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: those things together, First of all, we're super excited about 94 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: our new generation of EPIC servers. This is our fifth 95 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: generation we called turn. We've seen tremendous performance in many cases, 96 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: our performance over the competition has increased substantially with this 97 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: new generation. And what CIOs are telling me is they're 98 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: looking to modernize their data centers. You know, the idea 99 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: of you know, there's a lot of data center infrastructure 100 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: out there that is, you know, three, four or five 101 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: years old. You know, those guys are not as performant, 102 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: They take up a lot of space, and frankly, they 103 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: cost a lot from an operational standpoint. And so we're 104 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: able to substantially modernize the data center by adopting our 105 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: new generation of EPIC CPUs. We're seeing anywhere from a 106 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: seven to one ratio. You can replace seven legacy servers 107 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: with a single new and fifth generation EPIC server and 108 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: that just results in tremendous Paybass for enterprises. 109 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 3: Lisa, this is a question from our Bloomberg Technology Audience direct. 110 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 3: Would you consider using Intel for foundry. 111 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: Well, look, when we look at the manufacturing landscape for semiconductors, 112 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: it's really important to have a strong manufacturing set of partners. 113 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 1: We're extremely happy with the work that we do with TSMC. 114 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: They're great partner. It is also super important for us 115 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: to have geographic diversity. I think what the Chips Act 116 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: has done has been excellent in terms of trying to 117 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: bring more manufacturing back to the US. We're excited about 118 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: the work that's being done in Arizona, and we're very 119 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: active in bringing some of our chips into the new 120 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: factories of TSMC and Arizona. And we're always looking at 121 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: the manufacturing landscape and we'll always think about how we 122 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: can have the most resilient supply chain. 123 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 3: Lisa. For the last month, Bloomberg's Ink and I have 124 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 3: been using aipcs with processes based on our architecture. I 125 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 3: feel like the GAT with XAV six is closing. When 126 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 3: does a MD wade into that arena? 127 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: Well, I need to send you an AIPC, that's for sure. 128 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: So look, aipcs are an exciting new category. It really 129 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: will change the way the PC form factor behaves, especially 130 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: for enterprises. When you think about, you know, all of 131 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: the business productivity, all the collaboration we do, all the 132 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: security that you need. AIPCS really fits that. You know, 133 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: we just announced that we'll have copilot plus enterprise PCs 134 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: with our new stricts rising AI capability. We had Microsoft 135 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: on stage to talk about some of the new experiences there. 136 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: You'll see plenty of aipcs from a MD this year, 137 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: and that even increases as we go into twenty twenty five. 138 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: So over you know, one hundred plus enterprise platforms with 139 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: best in class AI capability. 140 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 3: Lisa, let's end the conversation looking to the future. You 141 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 3: celebrated ten years a year ago. You set out aggressive 142 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 3: targets for your company and the industry. You sat next 143 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 3: to me and outlined them. Where do you go next? 144 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: Well, I would say, first of all, you know, this 145 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: is an incredibly exciting time to be in the industry 146 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: when I think about what we have in front of us, 147 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: the promise of AI, you know, the fact that high 148 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: performance computing is you know, at the center everything in 149 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: the world, and we're able to really use the technology 150 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: for good, you know. That's super exciting for me. And 151 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: then we have this humongous opportunity when you think about 152 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: AI overall, and AMD is the only one in the 153 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: industry that can really bring together all of these end 154 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: to end AI pieces. So it's a super exciting time 155 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: and I'm really looking forward. I'd like to say we're 156 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: just getting started. 157 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 3: A m D CEO, Lisa Sue, thank you for your time. 158 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 3: Scarlet Vonnie