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Speaker 1: ft ball. Dane Parkins is my guest today. He is
Speaker 1: leaving six seventy the Score in Chicago. It's a pretty
Speaker 1: iconic sports talk radio station, and he is moving on
Speaker 1: to television to be announced. So I think this is
Speaker 1: tougher for you, and it will be eventually for me
Speaker 1: than ever moving off podcasting or television. So I grew
Speaker 1: up child of divorce. Radio was my friend. My sister
Speaker 1: was five six years older, so she was out of
Speaker 1: high school by the time I was in it. So
Speaker 1: I grew up rurly on the beach. You had separation
Speaker 1: between neighbors. I didn't live in a cul de sac.
Speaker 1: I didn't have a car yet. So radio is my friend.
Speaker 1: Radio is what I dreamed of. Radio has been my
Speaker 1: entire life. I do a simulcast now, which my radio
Speaker 1: show is not as good because of that. It's good
Speaker 1: enough to rate and drive revenue. But if there are
Speaker 1: days that I listen to local radio when I'm around
Speaker 1: the country in Boston or Chicago or LA and I
Speaker 1: miss it. And there are days I think I wish
Speaker 1: I could tell a fifteen minute story today on radio,
Speaker 1: because I've got a really good one and I can't.
Speaker 1: The remote changes it. So your radio is really what
Speaker 1: I grew up with, and now it's just called audio.
Speaker 1: It's still vibrant. By the way, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: money in audio. Sean Hannity is doing just fine on
Speaker 1: a eight hundred stations, so you're leaving six seventy to score,
Speaker 1: and I think the view will be you're going to
Speaker 1: a television job, but you don't have that radio mic.
Speaker 1: And it is the coolest thing in the world. When
Speaker 1: you have a great show, it is so raw and
Speaker 1: so personal, and so it's a canvas. It's got few limitations.
Speaker 1: Is it hard for you leaving a dream job even
Speaker 1: though it's considered a career upgrade.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is you. Uh, you nailed it. I left
Speaker 2: Chicago once to go pursue a radio career with the
Speaker 2: expressed goal of getting back to Chicago. All I ever
Speaker 2: wanted to do was host afternoon Drive in Chicago. Since
Speaker 2: I was sixteen years old. I would drive to school
Speaker 2: in the morning and listen to Howard Stern and I
Speaker 2: would drive home from school and listen to mac Yirkow
Speaker 2: and Harry and Boors and Bernstein, two awesome local Chicago
Speaker 2: radio shows. And then I would be a delivery driver
Speaker 2: and I would listen to those shows. And I love radio,
Speaker 2: love it, love it, love it, love it. I'm a careerist,
Speaker 2: I'm ambitious. I have a four year old and a
Speaker 2: two year old. Radio's market share locally and across the
Speaker 2: country is going down. Podcasts, on demand, internet and cars,
Speaker 2: all of those things. And while that is probably happening
Speaker 2: on some level also with TV, this is an opportunity
Speaker 2: that I didn't play in the NFL. I didn't make
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball starting pitcher money like this is an
Speaker 2: opportunity for me to grow my profile, grow my brand,
Speaker 2: and grow your brand. Sounds ridiculous, but you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, and change the life of my two sons,
Speaker 2: hopefully if it works. And so am I going to
Speaker 2: miss it? Yes, no doubt about it. But I'm excited
Speaker 2: to learn something new. I'm excited to feel like I'm
Speaker 2: getting better at something. Yeah, I don't think I really
Speaker 2: had that anymore in radio. I wasn't bored with the show.
Speaker 2: I loved the show. I mean, I loved the Parkinsons
Speaker 2: Eagles Show and Shane Reared and Chris Hannahill our producers.
Speaker 2: I love doing it every single day. But I'm excited
Speaker 2: to try to get better at something. And you know,
Speaker 2: you know how it is. I mean, you host a
Speaker 2: TV show that simulcast on radio and you have a podcast,
Speaker 2: like I'm not closing the door on radio forever or
Speaker 2: Chicago forever, or who knows what digital project I'll be
Speaker 2: able to create in the future. You know, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm thirty seven years old. I've got
Speaker 2: a long runway of a career. Left, and I think
Speaker 2: that there was, or I know there was a little
Speaker 2: bit of a feeling. If I'm just being totally personal.
Speaker 2: I don't know how many people care about this, but
Speaker 2: like that I had come close to a ceiling in
Speaker 2: both relevance and revenue in local radio. And that's a
Speaker 2: four hour a day show, five days a week. There's
Speaker 2: not much time left for other stuff. And then yea,
Speaker 2: then sometimes some things you're not allowed to do because
Speaker 2: of competitors and companies and that sort of thing. And
Speaker 2: so I felt like I owed it to myself and
Speaker 2: my kids when this opportunity came around to take a
Speaker 2: swing at it and try it. And there will be
Speaker 2: things that I absolutely wish that I was able to
Speaker 2: do on the TV show that I could have done
Speaker 2: on the radio show, There's no doubt about that. But hey,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to have to watch a baseball game,
Speaker 2: not Tuesday night either anymore. There will be trade offs.
Speaker 2: So yeah, leaving radio is very very difficult. It was bittersweet,
Speaker 2: especially because it required me to leave Chicago. But I'm
Speaker 2: pumped about this, man, I really am.
Speaker 1: So it's interesting right now. Currently in New York, the
Speaker 1: Mets are toast the Yankees bullpen will probably keep them
Speaker 1: away from a World Series crown, though they're certainly viable.
Speaker 1: Jets Giants are pathetic. I still don't buy into the
Speaker 1: TETs this year. Brooklyn Nets always a bit of a
Speaker 1: tire fire. And in Los Angeles the teams are doing
Speaker 1: really well. I mean, USC one twelve and eight, and
Speaker 1: people are critical of it. It's like they've won ten
Speaker 1: games average last two years, like that's our loser. So
Speaker 1: Chicago's sports are interesting because and I think I told
Speaker 1: you this considering the vast sports history. Not only is
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams sort of potentially the first great quarterback, it's
Speaker 1: a fairly starless town for Chicago. There was a time
Speaker 1: when Michael Jordan, Scotty Pipa Siskel and Ebert Oprah like
Speaker 1: it was everybody like it was just it felt as
Speaker 1: big as New York. And you've got a hockey player
Speaker 1: or two. That's interesting. But I was thinking the other
Speaker 1: day Caleb Williams just isn't a bear. He's going to be.
Speaker 1: He's filling a huge void in a sports crazy city.
Speaker 1: And you know you've been you know Chicago as well
Speaker 1: as anybody that I bring on the show Talk a
Speaker 1: little bit about this city. Who's that's kind of missing,
Speaker 1: like a it's it has some founding fathers, you know,
Speaker 1: like Mike Ditka, but it doesn't really have its next
Speaker 1: it performer. Now hockey is different, right, it doesn't. It doesn't.
Speaker 1: It may work in a city, but it's very local.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Chicago sports. What's missing and what's coming.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're on it. Connor Bedard is the hockey player
Speaker 2: that you're referring to, and he is a fena. He's
Speaker 2: he might be the best player in the league in
Speaker 2: a year or two. He is excellent, fairly anonymous guy
Speaker 2: outside of Chicago could easily walk down Madison Avenue without
Speaker 2: being recognized. Angel Reese is now a pretty big star
Speaker 2: in terms of like Q rating plays for the Chicago
Speaker 2: Sky But obviously that's a thing on the com that's new.
Speaker 2: You know, would not when you're talking about a city
Speaker 2: of Walter Payton and Mike Ditka and Michael Jordan, Angel
Speaker 2: Reese and Connor Bandard have a lot ways to go.
Speaker 2: The twenty sixteen Cubs was a team, Like they're talking
Speaker 2: about what the statue will be for that thing? You
Speaker 2: could make it. Chris Bryant, but that would be leaving
Speaker 2: out John Lester and Anthony Rizzo and Joe Madden and
Speaker 2: ben Ziebers like that'll probably be a collective. It was
Speaker 2: about one hundred and eight years and the curse and
Speaker 2: so singular star power in Chicago historically has really been
Speaker 2: Bears or Bulls. You know, Ernie Banks had it for sure,
Speaker 2: long time ago, Frank Ryan Sandberg, Ryan Sandberg for sure,
Speaker 2: as mentioned Frank Thomas. But in recent vintage you look
Speaker 2: to football and basketball and it's been a while. I mean,
Speaker 2: we've talked about this before on the pod only organization
Speaker 2: with no four thousand yard passer only organization with no
Speaker 2: thirty touchdown quarterback, and the Bears are the one thing
Speaker 2: that everyone in Chicago agrees upon. Baseball split Cubs and Socks,
Speaker 2: more Cubs than Socks, but still split. Winter pro sport shorts,
Speaker 2: Bulls and Blackhawks. Yeah, you can be a fan of both,
Speaker 2: but eighty two hockey games eighty two NBA games, you're
Speaker 2: a bigger fan of one or the other. Inevitably you
Speaker 2: care much more about one or the other. It's split
Speaker 2: for your winter pro sports attention. Everyone's a Bears fan.
Speaker 2: Everyone cares about the Bears and the history of the
Speaker 2: city is but Gus and Singletary and Irlacker and Sayers
Speaker 2: and Peyton and Johnny Morris, who played in the fifties
Speaker 2: is the all time leading receiver in Bears franchise his
Speaker 2: five thousand and fifty career receiving yards. So it's just
Speaker 2: remarkable and so like offensive passing football, we've never seen
Speaker 2: it before. You know, a year of Brandon Marshall and
Speaker 2: Alshon Jeffrey, a year of Eric Kramer, a year of
Speaker 2: Jay Cutler, but nothing sustained. So what Caleb Williams Not
Speaker 2: only does he have the ability to play like Rogers
Speaker 2: or Mahomes hopefully and be like a modern quarterback, which
Speaker 2: this city has never really seen before, but he also
Speaker 2: so as a celebrity. On Draft Night, he was talking
Speaker 2: about advice that he got from Denzel Washington, whose number
Speaker 2: is in his phone. He played in Hollywood. He's cool.
Speaker 2: He has a huge Instagram following. He was rich upon arrival,
Speaker 2: Like there's just this town is so starved. Yeah, for
Speaker 2: the star power, but also just for excellence. On the
Speaker 2: one thing that everybody can agree on in the city
Speaker 2: that if Caleb Williams is what he is supposed to be.
Speaker 2: He will own that town, own it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. You and I live in cities, and this is interesting.
Speaker 1: LA and Chicago, where people that don't live there have
Speaker 1: incredibly strong opinions that are anti that city.
Speaker 2: Oh so yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, off, go ahead.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So you know, there's there's things I like. I
Speaker 1: love Vancouver, BC. For what I like it for. It's
Speaker 1: it's proximity to the waterfront and the kindness of its people.
Speaker 1: I like its international flavor. I love London the history
Speaker 1: of it, parks everywhere, great hotels, incredible pubs, lounges, best
Speaker 1: bar city in the country. I like Los Angeles because
Speaker 1: I love the weather. It's just a vast city, thirty
Speaker 1: one music venues, I mean, just everything you want. I'm
Speaker 1: literally I can feel that I just took a nap
Speaker 1: with my door open, and that I can, you know,
Speaker 1: feel the water and hear the water. It's like okay.
Speaker 1: And then there's Chicago, which I love for a lot
Speaker 1: of reasons. I think it's a vibrant downtown. I think
Speaker 1: the architecture, the river running through the city. Love the people,
Speaker 1: love the people. It's also a great guy town, sports music, steaks,
Speaker 1: beautiful beautiful people. It's a guy's tad. It's my favorite
Speaker 1: guys town. Like nothing against you know, everybody, But it's like,
Speaker 1: if you had to say one city in the country,
Speaker 1: five guys, let's party, Chicago's really good. I mean you
Speaker 1: basically have a beach on the city. You poke a park,
Speaker 1: a boat, thirty yards stare at the city. I've done
Speaker 1: that four or five times. But it's interesting. We live
Speaker 1: in a time with social media that these cities are
Speaker 1: highly criticized, tend to lead left with their politics. That's
Speaker 1: the reason for it. What is it like to live
Speaker 1: in Chicago when you hear about the outrageous crime and
Speaker 1: the danger of the city, Like, what is your experience
Speaker 1: living there?
Speaker 2: Okay, so you might remember the last radiothon that I
Speaker 2: did three and a half years ago. You promoted it
Speaker 2: on the show. I named it the what about Chicago
Speaker 2: radiothon because it was a play on words, because when
Speaker 2: people talk about like gun control, they'll say, well, what
Speaker 2: about Chicago. They've got strict gun laws, but they still
Speaker 2: have bad gun violence. And it's just such a bad
Speaker 2: faith argument because if you look up the stats on
Speaker 2: the crime, a huge percentage of the guns that are
Speaker 2: involved in illegal crime come from Indiana, which is right,
Speaker 2: which is an eight minute drive away. You pay a
Speaker 2: six dollars toll and you can go get whatever you
Speaker 2: need and then you drive it back in and they
Speaker 2: don't search your trunk. And that's part of the issue. Right,
Speaker 2: So we're not surrounded by states that have the same
Speaker 2: laws as US and so, and these people that make
Speaker 2: that argument know it, but they don't care. So does
Speaker 2: Chicago have its problems, of course, does it have poverty,
Speaker 2: of course. Does it have a gun violence problem, no
Speaker 2: doubt about it. But it has so many incredible people
Speaker 2: that are doing everything in their power to solve those
Speaker 2: problems and to work on it that I just hate
Speaker 2: when people who aren't from here describe it as a
Speaker 2: war zone because they read a clip of the they
Speaker 2: see a clip on the news, and they've never been there.
Speaker 2: And it's like, stop, you don't care about solving the problem.
Speaker 2: You're just crapping on people who are actually working to
Speaker 2: solve it. And so either it keeps Chicago out of
Speaker 2: your mouth, get involved and solving the problem if you
Speaker 2: really care about it, or come here and see that.
Speaker 2: You can go to Oak Street Beach or North Avenue
Speaker 2: Beach or Michigan Avenue or the West Loop or the
Speaker 2: United Center or Salt Shed this new amazing venue right
Speaker 2: in the heart of the city, or you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, like any number of world class restaurants and
Speaker 2: neighborhoods and crazy diverse culture from like Pilsen to Hyde
Speaker 2: Park to Liquor Park, like you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's it's unbelievable. It's a city of neighborhoods. And so
Speaker 2: I love Chicago, I love the people. I get defensive
Speaker 2: when people make those bad faith arguments about it. You know,
Speaker 2: would you want to be in the wrong part of
Speaker 2: town by yourself at one in the morning, No, probably not.
Speaker 2: But could you go to the ten PM show at
Speaker 2: the Chicago Theater and get out at eleven thirty or
Speaker 2: midnight and be perfect safe, you know, on State Street
Speaker 2: in downtown Chicago, of course, and then you could ride
Speaker 2: the Red Line to wherever you were going and be fine.
Speaker 2: And you know. So it's just so much of it
Speaker 2: is blown out of proportion and based on stereotypes and
Speaker 2: used for political purposes that it's just it's honestly upsetting,
Speaker 2: because I do think it does real damage to people.
Speaker 2: I remember I was in Israel. This was years ago.
Speaker 2: I was in Israel and I said that I was
Speaker 2: from Chicago, and someone asked me if it was safe,
Speaker 2: and I was like, really, Israel, You've been literally at
Speaker 2: war with every country that borders you in your sixty
Speaker 2: eight years of existence or whatever it was at the time,
Speaker 2: and you're asking me about the safety of Chicago. So, like,
Speaker 2: the reputation really does matter, and it really does travel internationally.
Speaker 2: But listen, I mean, the weather sucks in the winter.
Speaker 2: The taxes are high. We've had some corrupt politicians in
Speaker 2: our day, so our money isn't spent perfectly. But to me,
Speaker 2: it's the greatest city in the world.
Speaker 1: So I you know, it was really funny that Tua,
Speaker 1: who I think, by all accounts is a really nice guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Religious, I'm agnostic, but very religious. I think he's a
Speaker 1: very decent person. He's bright, he's a hard worker. I
Speaker 1: you know, I don't like his injury history, his size.
Speaker 1: I think he's very limited in January in cold weather,
Speaker 1: which is why Tyreek killed Make it work early because
Speaker 1: it may not work late. But he came out and
Speaker 1: he really took shots and called Brian Flores his first coach,
Speaker 1: terrible person. And it got me thinking about Andy Reid
Speaker 1: and Bill Belichick, and that all of Belichick's guys except
Speaker 1: maybe Eric Mangini, are harsh and not liked and rough.
Speaker 1: I mean Josh McDaniel, Charlie Wise, and I can like him.
Speaker 1: You know, he loved Greg Sheiano, Brian Flores, Joe Judge,
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia, I mean Matt Patricia pissed off Matt Stafford
Speaker 1: the day he got into town. And all of Andy
Speaker 1: Reid's guys, even the ones that have quote unquote failed,
Speaker 1: Matt Naggi. Matt Naggie used to reach out to me
Speaker 1: and say thank you for kind words because his son
Speaker 1: would listen to me driving to school and he appreciated
Speaker 1: that his dad got support from one guy in the country.
Speaker 2: But Andy Reid's guys, he's a sweetheart.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Doug Peterson. And so it really got me thinking.
Speaker 1: First of all, I think if somebody craps on you,
Speaker 1: especially when you're young. It's one thing if somebody calls
Speaker 1: me out on my shit, and I'm now older, but
Speaker 1: when you're developing and you're young and somebody buries you,
Speaker 1: I kind of liked it. From Tua. And I'm not
Speaker 1: a tit for tat person, but I thought, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Kind of like that.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of a fan of that. Where where do
Speaker 1: you I said this yesterday, Andy Reid wins three straight.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a real discussion about Belichick and Andy Reid,
Speaker 1: Like a real discussion Belichick one with one quarterback and
Speaker 1: he wins with everybody. But what did you make little
Speaker 1: And I'm rambling here, but what did you make of
Speaker 1: Tua's response? I kind of like that he just called
Speaker 1: out one of Belichick's guys and said it's a terrible
Speaker 1: person because I think I think it will I think
Speaker 1: it will affect him. This is not a good day
Speaker 1: for Brian Flores.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a good day for Flores. I thought
Speaker 2: it was a really compelling moment that he shared with Levitard,
Speaker 2: and it was I think part of it was like
Speaker 2: he's a made guy, right, he got paid. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think there's I think that was some aspect of oh, sure,
Speaker 2: this organization paid me, so they committed to me, not
Speaker 2: to that guy. So now I can tell some truths
Speaker 2: and that doesn't belittle the truth. I just don't know
Speaker 2: that he says it eighteen months ago. I think that
Speaker 2: there's something too. You have that security, you can tell
Speaker 2: some truths there. But of course it matters. You want
Speaker 2: you want your kids to believe in themselves. That you
Speaker 2: don't want them to be delusional, but you you want
Speaker 2: your kids to believe in yourselves. The power of positivity
Speaker 2: affirmations is a big thing nowadays. Yeah, you know so,
Speaker 2: I think that there is absolutely something to it. I
Speaker 2: don't know that it overcomes arm strength and if Ireek Hill,
Speaker 2: you know, holds a hamstring in December, I don't know
Speaker 2: that it overcomes that. But Tua is good. Is how
Speaker 2: I look at Tua? Of he's good, Yeah, he's like
Speaker 2: of course they were going to pay him. Their offense
Speaker 2: has proven that it can be elite. When I hear
Speaker 2: people talk about, well they had too many pass rushers
Speaker 2: get hurt, or they didn't invest enough in their interior
Speaker 2: of their offensive line, or cold weather like it, I
Speaker 2: think that speaks to kind of the issue with Tua
Speaker 2: is that there is some there are some limitations, there's
Speaker 2: some concerns. I think if he didn't have Tyreek Hill
Speaker 2: and Jalen Wattle and one of the five best offensive
Speaker 2: play callers in the league, we'd have more questions about Tua,
Speaker 2: but man, I will very rarely, if ever, criticize guys
Speaker 2: for honesty. It's honest. I don't know if it's a
Speaker 2: hundred percent truthful. I'm sure Brian Flores has a different
Speaker 2: version of events, but like that is too. That was
Speaker 2: clearly to his truth and he told it to us,
Speaker 2: and I think that was incredibly compelling stuff. As for
Speaker 2: your Andy Reid caveat, you know, I worked in Kansas
Speaker 2: City before Chicago, so I covered those teams when he
Speaker 2: got there, and I I thought I had an appreciation
Speaker 2: for what he was in Philly, and because he was
Speaker 2: out of the curb, Like if you remember when he
Speaker 2: got run out of Philly, people were like, he likes
Speaker 2: to pass the ball more than he likes to run
Speaker 2: the ball. Yes, now that's the entire league Like he was,
Speaker 2: he was ahead of the curve. And the list is incredible.
Speaker 2: Donovan McNabb, Kevin Cobb, Jeff Garcia, Mike Vick, Alex Smith
Speaker 2: and then of course Mahomes. All of those guys best
Speaker 2: years of their career with Andy Reid, everyone, every single one,
Speaker 2: and like I don't know, Mike Vick and Alex Smith
Speaker 2: are pretty different, you know, like Donovan McNabb and Kevin
Speaker 2: Cobb are not exactly the same quarterback. So that speaks
Speaker 2: to a level of offensive geniusness that I will be
Speaker 2: surprised if when Andy Reid hangs it up people actually
Speaker 2: call him the goat, like if that is ever a
Speaker 2: majority opinion, because we are such a rings culture, and
Speaker 2: he obviously won't be at Belichick. But in terms of
Speaker 2: hey man, Bill Belichick, he doesn't have a winning record
Speaker 2: without Brady. Andy Reid's got a winning record with a
Speaker 2: lot of different guys. He's hit the over on his
Speaker 2: win total every year he's been in Kansas City. He
Speaker 2: is undefeated to the over since he's been chief. That
Speaker 2: is insane. So like he's just he's the best coach
Speaker 2: in the NFL. I don't think it's particularly close.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I do think there. I've always had a
Speaker 1: theory that Andy why his assistants do better. So Andy
Speaker 1: is a teacher. Belichick's not. Belichick's more authoritarian. Belichick's really smart.
Speaker 1: Moms spoke several languages. Dad was a pioneer in scouting.
Speaker 1: But proximity to genius does an equal genius right. You
Speaker 1: can have the smartest friend in the world, it doesn't
Speaker 1: make you smarter. You know, you may be curious and
Speaker 1: ask questions, but it doesn't raise your IQ. Teachers succeed.
Speaker 1: If you look at Bill Walsh, Mike Hongren, Andy Reid,
Speaker 1: many of the great offensive coaches intellectually shared wisdom. A
Speaker 1: lot of the defensive coaches coaching trees. They were culture builders,
Speaker 1: they were authoritative. They're not teaching, and I don't think
Speaker 1: Belichick is. I think Belichick was attracted to people, a
Speaker 1: lot of them Northeast guys that could handle him. He
Speaker 1: liked a gruffness because he knew what he was and
Speaker 1: what he wasn't and so he built a wall around
Speaker 1: him of really tough coaches. Whereas Andy builds, he builds
Speaker 1: a class, and he's the mentor of the class and
Speaker 1: he's constantly teaching. That's kind of my theory on the two.
Speaker 1: And both work, by the way, clearly, But I if
Speaker 1: I've always been impressed. It's one thing to be successful
Speaker 1: at something, but there is there is value in like, oh,
Speaker 1: this radio host worked in this city and that city
Speaker 1: and at the network and that TV show. Other than
Speaker 1: just being he dominated in Iowa. Nothing against Iowa. So
Speaker 1: like for you, you've crushed in radio, Now you want
Speaker 1: to try, you know, cable television. So I feel like
Speaker 1: read the depth of his success. If he wins three
Speaker 1: in a row, I have no problem saying that's the
Speaker 1: best football coach I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that, and I hope that more people
Speaker 2: do you know you you helped me promote the book
Speaker 2: that I co authored, Pipeline to the Pros. And that's
Speaker 2: not to get a big plug in there, but like
Speaker 2: I talk, it's about coaching and management pipeline in the
Speaker 2: NBA from the D three level to the NBA level,
Speaker 2: And the recur the recurring theme of the book, or
Speaker 2: one of them, was teaching. Coaching is teaching, period. It
Speaker 2: is the coaching is teaching. And a reason why so
Speaker 2: many of those guys from that background work so well
Speaker 2: is because they were literally teachers, whether they were history
Speaker 2: teachers or whatever, because they like they needed to do
Speaker 2: it to have the privilege of coaching the basketball team.
Speaker 2: And so hey, does the does Patrick Ewing buy in
Speaker 2: to what Jeff Van Gundy is saying? When Jeff Van
Speaker 2: Gundy looks like a pit squep next to him, Yeah,
Speaker 2: he buys in it if Jeff Van Gundy can teach
Speaker 2: him something, if he can make him better. And you know,
Speaker 2: I was in those locker rooms with the chiefs in
Speaker 2: like the early part of this rise, and so you
Speaker 2: know they Romeo Crenell was there before, Todd Haley, was
Speaker 2: there before Scott Pioli who was on the Belichick New England.
Speaker 2: I mean, there was a front page article in the
Speaker 2: Kansas City Star. The headline was arrowhead anxiety. People thought
Speaker 2: that they were bugging the rooms, like you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. It was. It was a culture of like
Speaker 2: fear and dictatorship, what you're talking about. And Andy Reid
Speaker 2: came in and they marveled at it. They was it
Speaker 2: was night and day, black and white. They could not
Speaker 2: believe the culture shift that one coach was able to
Speaker 2: do for an organization. You know, he hired John Dorsey
Speaker 2: and then he has a say in hiring Brett Viach
Speaker 2: Like he's the top dog in that organization. He doesn't
Speaker 2: want the personnel say like he had in Philly for
Speaker 2: a minute, it burnt him out. But everything runs through
Speaker 2: the Andy Reid ethos. And yes, he empowers his coaches
Speaker 2: a ton so much so that I think he like
Speaker 2: kind of lies on their behalf to get them jobs.
Speaker 2: Like he'll be like, oh yeah, Matt Naggie, he was
Speaker 2: calling those plays. No, he wasn't, well you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, Like Andy Reid never stopped calling plays, but
Speaker 2: he will do it to get to get his guys promoted.
Speaker 2: And then as soon as Matt Naggie failed in Chicago,
Speaker 2: he brought him right back to Kansas City, and Mahomes
Speaker 2: swears by him, by the way, swears by Matt.
Speaker 1: Neg So I threw this out today on my radio show.
Speaker 1: I said baseball's making a lot of changes now, not
Speaker 1: because they want to, but because they have to. I mean,
Speaker 1: now we've seen runner on second base and extra innings,
Speaker 1: they're discussing six innings for starting pitchers, the pitch clock,
Speaker 1: the DH, the universal DH.
Speaker 2: Balls and strikes. What they're doing in the minors.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, why because ESPN's not interested. They've bet on hockey,
Speaker 1: not baseball. We have bet on college football, NFL, World Cup,
Speaker 1: and Lachlan Murdoch, I think I can say this doesn't
Speaker 1: appear to be as big a baseball fan as an
Speaker 1: NFL fan and a World Cup fan. He's a global traveler,
Speaker 1: a global citizen. And the Apple deal for baseball was
Speaker 1: a zero. The Roku deals embarrassing, and baseball has to
Speaker 1: make changes. And I said this, I've been into baseball
Speaker 1: this season because they go Twani's amazing. The Yankees are good.
Speaker 1: I like Bryce Arper. We have like three faces of
Speaker 1: the league. I think Mookie Bets could be better than
Speaker 1: all of them. But we have like some really domestic stars.
Speaker 1: And I said, but here's what's funny. Even in a
Speaker 1: year of the Olympics, the Euros COPA WNBA is smashing records.
Speaker 1: Those all go away next year and the election. So
Speaker 1: Fox News, MSNBC and C and NS ratings are up.
Speaker 1: NBC's raiding, Olympics up, Fox COPA, Euros up. They all
Speaker 1: disappear next year. And I said, if I was a
Speaker 1: network president, you give me Baseball WNBA eight year deal
Speaker 1: and one costs one seventh of the other. With Caitlin Clark,
Speaker 1: I would choose the WNBA. And I would not have
Speaker 1: said that a year ago. You're part of the Angel
Speaker 1: rees thing, and I Danny, I feel like it's a
Speaker 1: little bird magic to legendary players. Rivals in college come
Speaker 1: to the NBA immediately good. I mean, Angel Rees is
Speaker 1: like a double double record, Caitlin Clark, the playmaker, the
Speaker 1: assist record. I've never felt this before. I'm watching the
Speaker 1: WNBA on weekends over baseball, and it's been a good
Speaker 1: baseball year.
Speaker 2: It has been a good baseball year. So I'm with you,
Speaker 2: especially because one story, and you know this from starting
Speaker 2: a business. My parents were market people. I feel like
Speaker 2: I have an okay understanding of it. You can tell
Speaker 2: a story of growth that matters a lot baseball. The
Speaker 2: arrow is going down NBA, the arrow is going up.
Speaker 2: That matters fast, right, that that inherently matters to like
Speaker 2: Wall Street investors. The narrative that you can sell all
Speaker 2: of those things. The problem that baseball has as I
Speaker 2: see it, because I do think the pitch clock was excellent.
Speaker 2: Theo Epstein, Yeah, theo Epstein is the smartest executive I've
Speaker 2: ever talked to in sports. He now is advising Major
Speaker 2: League Baseball and some of this stuff, Like I think
Speaker 2: that I think that they're trying. I don't even they
Speaker 2: can't market stars. I don't believe that it's that it's
Speaker 2: too hard, too hard to hit the ball, like these
Speaker 2: pitchers have gotten so good, and the spin rate is
Speaker 2: so high and the velocity is so high that you
Speaker 2: go to these games and every team has a couple
Speaker 2: of starters and three or four relievers whose average fastball
Speaker 2: velocity is ninety eight miles of an hour above, and
Speaker 2: they just the starter pitches into the fifth and the
Speaker 2: and they bring in ninety eight, ninety eight, ninety nine,
Speaker 2: one oh two. There's twelve or thirteen combined strikeouts. When
Speaker 2: you when you see Roger Clemens or Justin Verlander have
Speaker 2: thirteen strikeouts by himself, You're like, I'm watching individual greatness.
Speaker 2: But when it's four or five guys combining for thirteen strikeouts,
Speaker 2: and I am a pretty astute baseball fan, and I've
Speaker 2: heard of one or two of them like that, that's
Speaker 2: an inherent boring. It's just it's boring. The ball is
Speaker 2: not in play enough. So I love that they're trying things.
Speaker 2: I like the idea of, like some real radical changes,
Speaker 2: like should we do construction on stadiums and widen the outfield?
Speaker 1: How about this lower the mound. They did it in
Speaker 1: Bob Gibson in the late sixties because he was just
Speaker 1: you couldn't hit Bob Gibson. You lower the mound six
Speaker 1: inches and the ball's not coming down at you, and
Speaker 1: the hitting averages all go up fifteen yep, two sixty
Speaker 1: becomes two seventy five.
Speaker 2: If you can do that, that's great. I was surprised
Speaker 2: that this they tried at one of the lower levels.
Speaker 2: I think it was single A. It might've even been
Speaker 2: lower than that. They tried moving the mound back from
Speaker 2: sixty feet six inches to like sixty one six thinking
Speaker 2: that the velocity wouldn't be as crazy, and the offensive
Speaker 2: numbers actually went down. I don't know what the explanation
Speaker 2: if that was, if like the hook and like the
Speaker 2: curvature was too big, or like more dramatic. I have
Speaker 2: no idea why that didn't work Like that seems counterintuitive
Speaker 2: to me. But whatever you can do lowering the mound,
Speaker 2: widening the outfield more foul like less foul territory. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'd be open to a lot of things, like limiting
Speaker 2: the number of pictures on a roster, saying that you've
Speaker 2: got to go five innings or six innings for a
Speaker 2: starting pitcher. A foul ball isn't a strike, like, I'd
Speaker 2: be interested in a lot of things to explore to
Speaker 2: figure out a way to inject some offense into the game,
Speaker 2: because I don't know Fox ad it. Did you watch
Speaker 2: the Baseball All Star Game? I don't know if you watched.
Speaker 1: Or now I watched. I watched innings of it. I
Speaker 1: watched the early innings.
Speaker 2: Those pitchers like like Mason Miller, Uh okay, how could
Speaker 2: you possibly hit it? Like they're the best hitters in
Speaker 2: the world and the best pitchers in the world, and
Speaker 2: the best pitchers won. Like it's a it was a
Speaker 2: low scoring game, you know. And so it's just it's very,
Speaker 2: very hard to generate offense. And because the science says
Speaker 2: and the stats say that when a pitcher goes three
Speaker 2: times through a lineup, they are expectedly more likely to
Speaker 2: allow more runs. Starters are getting pulled, relievers are being
Speaker 2: inserted into the game. You're seeing all these pitching changes
Speaker 2: and you're not. It used to be a huge deal. Oh,
Speaker 2: Tom Glavin is starting today, Greg Maddox is starting today.
Speaker 2: My ticket is worth more because I want to go
Speaker 2: see that guy. Now, you go see Paul Skins. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he might strike about ten, but he could be pulled
Speaker 2: after the fifth inning, and with the pitch clock yeah,
Speaker 2: that's an hour and fifteen minutes. So it just you
Speaker 2: got to figure out ways to get more offense into
Speaker 2: that sport.
Speaker 1: Listen, I have a deal with DraftKings, but I beyond that.
Speaker 1: I had a deal before that with their primary rival.
Speaker 1: Before that. I lived in Vegas for seven years, so
Speaker 1: I didn't gamble on sports growing up. I didn't grow
Speaker 1: up in a city there was nobody to gamble with.
Speaker 1: We were all poor. But when I went to Vegas
Speaker 1: for seven years out of college, my favorite thing to
Speaker 1: do after the eleven o'clock News, where I was the
Speaker 1: sports anchor on a Friday night during the football season
Speaker 1: was go to Pala Station and bet parlays and bet
Speaker 1: like twenty dollars on four different cards, and then wake
Speaker 1: up back when college football started at nine am Pacific,
Speaker 1: because you know, I didn't have the audience. Now they've
Speaker 1: pushed all the games back for the revenue in the audience.
Speaker 1: But you know sports gambling really well, you and Nick
Speaker 1: Wright both have the poker brain. And I saw the
Speaker 1: other day somebody there was a do gooder, you know,
Speaker 1: there was a media do gooder criticizing sports gambling. And
Speaker 1: I'm not obviously I'm pro media, and I think fake
Speaker 1: news is ridiculous, But I do think the media can
Speaker 1: be out of touch, can be really out of touch
Speaker 1: on stuff. I thought there was too much hysteria. Though
Speaker 1: I was pro vaccine, there was a lot of hysteria.
Speaker 1: I thought canceling college football for young people to sit
Speaker 1: outside in the sun in September was a little overwrought.
Speaker 1: I mean, they closed the beaches in California and skateboard parks.
Speaker 1: It just was overreaching. The media was hysterical when we
Speaker 1: knew pretty pretty quickly with the science under twenty two
Speaker 1: if you didn't have physical maladies, you were fine. It
Speaker 1: was a you know you were gonna make it. So
Speaker 1: I also think some of the media can be really
Speaker 1: preachy on sportscampling. So in the companies I've worked with,
Speaker 1: the average bet is four dollars. You cannot It's easier
Speaker 1: to ruin your life for four dollars eating fast food
Speaker 1: burgers than it is gambling on sports. Your health will
Speaker 1: deteriorate faster than your wallet on four dollars a bet.
Speaker 1: And I also think one of the things that sports
Speaker 1: gambling offers, and I think it's really important and a
Speaker 1: very tribal angry. Time in America is community. I love
Speaker 1: betting with somebody and we have the opposite bet of
Speaker 1: the same bet. It's just fun. Maybe it's my guy DNA.
Speaker 1: I love having bets with buddies on games and we're
Speaker 1: laughing and high fiving. Where are you on sports betting?
Speaker 1: First of all, you know that I reached out to
Speaker 1: you a year and a half ago to bring you
Speaker 1: to the volume based on your sports gambling. What is
Speaker 1: your overarching opinion on it? It's dangers and it's how
Speaker 1: do you feel about it?
Speaker 2: Well, listen, I love sports gambling. I've been betting on
Speaker 2: sports since I was fifteen and it was definitely not
Speaker 2: legal in the suburbs of Chicago. Again, parents' market people.
Speaker 2: I don't look at it as that entirely different. Now, obviously,
Speaker 2: you make you make a bet on Nvidia, you get
Speaker 2: it wrong and this stock goes down. It doesn't go
Speaker 2: to zero. You can lose a bet and it goes
Speaker 2: to zero. So I understand why there are differences. But
Speaker 2: it's it's all about It's a market, that's what it is.
Speaker 2: It's information. I think it's good for just us people
Speaker 2: sports consumers to have these really smart numbers. People inject
Speaker 2: unbiased probability into the discussion of sports. I think it
Speaker 2: makes people smarter if it is disseminated in an intelligent way.
Speaker 2: And also as just a student of history, prohibition doesn't work.
Speaker 2: It didn't work for alcohol, it doesn't work for the
Speaker 2: sex trade, it doesn't work for gambling, it doesn't work
Speaker 2: for marijuana. I'm not saying that everything in the world
Speaker 2: should be legal. I understand why some things need to
Speaker 2: be illegal, but generally speaking, if it's not going to
Speaker 2: kill you, I do believe that it should be legal
Speaker 2: and then regulated and taxed, and that actually would be
Speaker 2: safer and better for all people involved, So I don't
Speaker 2: really worry too much about the dangers. Of course we
Speaker 2: should have the disclaimers attached, you know, the one I gambler,
Speaker 2: you know, of course that should exist. Of course, responsible
Speaker 2: game like I don't like when people say frant who
Speaker 2: was someone just had to like backtrack on one of
Speaker 2: the big broadcasts where they came out and they said like,
Speaker 2: this is a can't lose, this is a lock bet
Speaker 2: your mortgage on it, and he said it kind of flippantly,
Speaker 2: but then people got on him. I forget who it was.
Speaker 2: People could google the story. It happened, I don't know, a
Speaker 2: few months ago. Like so, like, don't say that because
Speaker 2: some idiot out there might actually bet their mortgage and
Speaker 2: you could argue I shouldn't be responsible for that. But
Speaker 2: like it's you know, in general, as long as it
Speaker 2: is done as hey, this is entertainment. Don't out what
Speaker 2: you can afford to lose. And you can either do
Speaker 2: it because you are a Bears fan and you want
Speaker 2: to bet on the Bears, or you say, I want
Speaker 2: to bet on the Seahawks because I think that four
Speaker 2: and a half is a good number and it should
Speaker 2: be three, and I'm getting a point and a half
Speaker 2: of closing line value and that's off the key number
Speaker 2: of three and across four as an added bonus. And
Speaker 2: I got in early on the bet on you know,
Speaker 2: Sunday night when they posted the line, and then by
Speaker 2: the time kickoff happened six and a half days later,
Speaker 2: the market is corrected in my favor. Like, you can
Speaker 2: do it both ways. You could bet for fun, or
Speaker 2: you could bet to try to be a sharp, or
Speaker 2: you could bet somewhere in between. And if you don't
Speaker 2: like gambling, don't like you know, no one, no one
Speaker 2: is forcing you to do it. I understand that it
Speaker 2: is a if you have no interest in it, and
Speaker 2: now you're seeing it everywhere, it feels like you're inundated
Speaker 2: with it. But you talk to guys who did local
Speaker 2: radio like longer than I did. It used to be
Speaker 2: every commercial was for a car dealership, and then it
Speaker 2: became everyone was for a beer alcohol brand. Now it's
Speaker 2: for a sports book. Like it's whoever is the newer
Speaker 2: thing in the advertising space, They take over and they
Speaker 2: mass produce to try to get market share. So these
Speaker 2: things go in cycles. But people have been gambling on
Speaker 2: sports for the entire history of sports. I don't really
Speaker 2: pearl Clutch about any of this. I don't do it.
Speaker 2: Oh won't somebody please think of the children? That doesn't
Speaker 2: really concern me too much. And I look at it
Speaker 2: as enhancement. Frankly, it's like bacon on a cheeseburger. I
Speaker 2: like cheeseburgers. I like bacon on a cheeseburger more. I
Speaker 2: like watching football. I like watching football more if I
Speaker 2: have a bet on it, Like, that's what it is.
Speaker 2: It just enhances my sports experience.
Speaker 1: So whenever I criticize somebody a lot like Baker Mayfield,
Speaker 1: I always start with a qualifier. I think he and
Speaker 1: his wife are great people. I know a private story
Speaker 1: about them that is very complimentary. I think he's one
Speaker 1: of the twenty best quarterbacks in the league, and I'm
Speaker 1: rooting for him. I just thought he was overdrafted, an immature,
Speaker 1: and so Aaron Rodgers I feel the same way. I'd
Speaker 1: vote him for the Hall of Fame. I think there
Speaker 1: are qualities about him that are better than Brett Farve,
Speaker 1: but he has become it feels to me podcast guest
Speaker 1: Slash Quarterback on that he is sort of just doing
Speaker 1: his own thing. Bill Simmons always had this theory and
Speaker 1: I've had a similar one. Like the older you get,
Speaker 1: the richer you get. If you're not married, you get
Speaker 1: a little weird. I could name like four people off
Speaker 1: the top of night. You get a little odd. You're
Speaker 1: on your phone too much. But I've had so many
Speaker 1: opinions about Aaron Rodgers. I just don't think he's going
Speaker 1: to be as good as a quarterback as people think.
Speaker 1: His last year in Green Bay, he wasn't as good
Speaker 1: as Jordan love Now with a very good offensive line,
Speaker 1: a good offensive coach and like symmetry inside the building.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Solikan coach Natt Hackett's a disaster
Speaker 1: and that online is they cross your fingers. He won't
Speaker 1: be the best quarterback in his division, and probably with
Speaker 1: two and Josh Allen, he'll be the third most productive.
Speaker 1: So where do you stand on Rogers? I don't believe
Speaker 1: you can be a savior at forty years old off
Speaker 1: a major surgery with Josh Allen, Mike McDaniel and two
Speaker 1: in a division. I think CJ. Stroud can in his division.
Speaker 1: I don't think Aaron can at his age with those
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in his division. Where do you stand on him now?
Speaker 2: Right? So the coming off the injury part is the
Speaker 2: huge caveat right, because we saw Brady do it in Tampa.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it is possible. But forty year old's coming
Speaker 2: off of achilles injury with will say other interests to
Speaker 2: put it mildly, he's not Brady, right, Brady maniacal about
Speaker 2: football football right, football, football football football. Obviously, that's not Rogers.
Speaker 2: This is maybe not as fact based and analytical as
Speaker 2: you would come to expect an opinion of mine to be.
Speaker 2: I just hope he's good, so that we haven't been
Speaker 2: wasting our time these last two years. We have talked
Speaker 2: so much about Aaron Rodgers on Pat McAfee and Aaron
Speaker 2: Rodgers on Joe Rogan and Aaron Rodgers an RFK, and
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers the vaccine and Aaron Rodgers the toxic Internet
Speaker 2: brain and Aaron Rodgers the troll, And I'm just like man.
Speaker 2: He is one of the most talented quarterbacks that I've
Speaker 2: ever seen play the position. He influenced Mahomes, he influenced Caleb.
Speaker 2: He is a first ballot Hall of Famer. The only
Speaker 2: player in the history of the sport with more MVPs
Speaker 2: than him is Peyton Manning. He is one of the
Speaker 2: first guys that I've ever seen who was a gunslinger
Speaker 2: who didn't turn the ball over. He has a forty
Speaker 2: five touchdown, six interception season on his liking like that
Speaker 2: that is one of the craziest seasons I've ever seen
Speaker 2: anyone have in my life. And so like, there's just
Speaker 2: been so many column inches and so many takes and
Speaker 2: so so much word vomit on Aaron Rodgers the last
Speaker 2: two years that I want, I feel like we deserve
Speaker 2: Jets Bengals Divisional Weekend, like I feel like we deserve
Speaker 2: it as sports fans. I want to see Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 2: Josh Allen for the Division week seventeen. I just I'm
Speaker 2: rooting for him to be better than his weirdness and
Speaker 2: his age and his injury suggest that he should be.
Speaker 2: Because they're gonna be on National TV six times again,
Speaker 2: like it is a really compelling sports theater. And it
Speaker 2: sucked watching Zach Wilson on Monday Night Football last year.
Speaker 2: I don't want to do that type of thing again.
Speaker 2: So I am hoping that the conversation about Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 2: can be about football again, because he's simply one of
Speaker 2: the greatest football players that I've ever seen. And if
Speaker 2: he goes out and he's just bad, he'll still be
Speaker 2: a first ballot Hall of Famer. He'll be a bit
Speaker 2: of a punchline, and that would suck, because, yeah, I
Speaker 2: disagree with a ton of things that he said, but
Speaker 2: I still love watching the guy play football, and so
Speaker 2: I'm really hoping that we get some version. He's not
Speaker 2: gonna be forty five and six, but I hope we
Speaker 2: get a great version of Aaron Rodgers because then at
Speaker 2: least it will have made the last two years of
Speaker 2: nonsense feel like it mattered in a sports sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd be like promising your kid's a great vacation
Speaker 1: for two years and then you go to Hawaii and
Speaker 1: there's a tropical storm.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, you're the perfect that's the perfect analogy exactly.
Speaker 2: It's like, come on, man, like this hat this I want.
Speaker 2: If it's thirty to six Niners Jets in week one
Speaker 2: and he three days, I'm gonna be like, come on,
Speaker 2: I don't care about what he said on Tuesday. Like,
Speaker 2: just like, give me one of those throws where you
Speaker 2: flick it with your wrist. It's thirty yards on the
Speaker 2: time Garrett Wilson catches it, and that game's twenty seven
Speaker 2: to twenty four in the fourth quarter with two minutes left. Like,
Speaker 2: give me that to make all this other nonsense worth something.
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Speaker 2: I had no idea. He just happened to have his
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Speaker 2: broadcast days of my life. Leading into Saturday at Wrigley,
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Speaker 2: the World Series or Alstar Game. It had never happened
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Speaker 2: whole family on the field where my Brad's son throws
Speaker 2: out the first pitch. Then the stadium stands for cancer.
Speaker 2: At the end of the fourth inning, I've got ten
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Speaker 2: It was just so emotional, and the charity that I've
Speaker 2: joined the board of directors of, I know I'm rambling
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Speaker 2: a radio show that I loved, wrapping up this charity
Speaker 2: event that I'd planned for so long doing this like
Speaker 2: incredibly symbolic thing in my brother's honor. It's just been
Speaker 2: a whirlwind of a ninety six hours. Man.
Speaker 1: Well, congratulations and your next chapter. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: give it away, but it's it's exciting, and it's it's
Speaker 1: I think one of the more enjoyable things for me
Speaker 1: at this point in my life is watching young talented
Speaker 1: people get opportunities and help lubricate those. And you're going
Speaker 1: to crush it wherever you go, and we both know
Speaker 1: where you're going.
Speaker 2: So no, that's the thing, like after the radio thought,
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to have a week off, and now it's
Speaker 2: I'm coming to you from a hotel room, you know.
Speaker 2: So like my life is not slowing down anytime soon.
Speaker 2: But listen, I wouldn't have it any other way. I
Speaker 2: could not be more excited about what's next. You just
Speaker 2: have to prom that you'll have me on the pod
Speaker 2: when we can actually talk about it.
Speaker 1: All right, Danny, whatever you're doing the mystery that's about
Speaker 1: to be unveiled, I hope you're a regular on my podcast.
Speaker 1: And it's good talking again, buddy, and congrats on all
Speaker 1: your success Colin.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. You know anytime I would love
Speaker 2: to come on. Thank you sir the volume.
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