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Speaker 1: leaving six seventy the Score in Chicago. It's a pretty

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Speaker 1: at something, but there is there is value in like, oh,

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Speaker 1: this radio host worked in this city and that city

427
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Speaker 1: and at the network and that TV show. Other than

428
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Speaker 1: just being he dominated in Iowa. Nothing against Iowa. So

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Speaker 1: like for you, you've crushed in radio, Now you want

430
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Speaker 1: to try, you know, cable television. So I feel like

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Speaker 1: read the depth of his success. If he wins three

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Speaker 1: in a row, I have no problem saying that's the

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Speaker 1: best football coach I've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that, and I hope that more people

435
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Speaker 2: do you know you you helped me promote the book

436
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Speaker 2: that I co authored, Pipeline to the Pros. And that's

437
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 2: not to get a big plug in there, but like

438
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Speaker 2: I talk, it's about coaching and management pipeline in the

439
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Speaker 2: NBA from the D three level to the NBA level,

440
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 2: And the recur the recurring theme of the book, or

441
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Speaker 2: one of them, was teaching. Coaching is teaching, period. It

442
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Speaker 2: is the coaching is teaching. And a reason why so

443
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Speaker 2: many of those guys from that background work so well

444
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Speaker 2: is because they were literally teachers, whether they were history

445
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Speaker 2: teachers or whatever, because they like they needed to do

446
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Speaker 2: it to have the privilege of coaching the basketball team.

447
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Speaker 2: And so hey, does the does Patrick Ewing buy in

448
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Speaker 2: to what Jeff Van Gundy is saying? When Jeff Van

449
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Speaker 2: Gundy looks like a pit squep next to him, Yeah,

450
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Speaker 2: he buys in it if Jeff Van Gundy can teach

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Speaker 2: him something, if he can make him better. And you know,

452
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Speaker 2: I was in those locker rooms with the chiefs in

453
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Speaker 2: like the early part of this rise, and so you

454
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Speaker 2: know they Romeo Crenell was there before, Todd Haley, was

455
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Speaker 2: there before Scott Pioli who was on the Belichick New England.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there was a front page article in the

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Speaker 2: Kansas City Star. The headline was arrowhead anxiety. People thought

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Speaker 2: that they were bugging the rooms, like you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean. It was. It was a culture of like

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Speaker 2: fear and dictatorship, what you're talking about. And Andy Reid

461
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Speaker 2: came in and they marveled at it. They was it

462
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Speaker 2: was night and day, black and white. They could not

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Speaker 2: believe the culture shift that one coach was able to

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Speaker 2: do for an organization. You know, he hired John Dorsey

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Speaker 2: and then he has a say in hiring Brett Viach

466
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Speaker 2: Like he's the top dog in that organization. He doesn't

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Speaker 2: want the personnel say like he had in Philly for

468
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Speaker 2: a minute, it burnt him out. But everything runs through

469
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Speaker 2: the Andy Reid ethos. And yes, he empowers his coaches

470
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Speaker 2: a ton so much so that I think he like

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Speaker 2: kind of lies on their behalf to get them jobs.

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Speaker 2: Like he'll be like, oh yeah, Matt Naggie, he was

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Speaker 2: calling those plays. No, he wasn't, well you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean, Like Andy Reid never stopped calling plays, but

475
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Speaker 2: he will do it to get to get his guys promoted.

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Speaker 2: And then as soon as Matt Naggie failed in Chicago,

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Speaker 2: he brought him right back to Kansas City, and Mahomes

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Speaker 2: swears by him, by the way, swears by Matt.

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Speaker 1: Neg So I threw this out today on my radio show.

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Speaker 1: I said baseball's making a lot of changes now, not

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Speaker 1: because they want to, but because they have to. I mean,

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Speaker 1: now we've seen runner on second base and extra innings,

483
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Speaker 1: they're discussing six innings for starting pitchers, the pitch clock,

484
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Speaker 1: the DH, the universal DH.

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Speaker 2: Balls and strikes. What they're doing in the minors.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, why because ESPN's not interested. They've bet on hockey,

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Speaker 1: not baseball. We have bet on college football, NFL, World Cup,

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Speaker 1: and Lachlan Murdoch, I think I can say this doesn't

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Speaker 1: appear to be as big a baseball fan as an

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Speaker 1: NFL fan and a World Cup fan. He's a global traveler,

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Speaker 1: a global citizen. And the Apple deal for baseball was

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Speaker 1: a zero. The Roku deals embarrassing, and baseball has to

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Speaker 1: make changes. And I said this, I've been into baseball

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Speaker 1: this season because they go Twani's amazing. The Yankees are good.

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Speaker 1: I like Bryce Arper. We have like three faces of

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Speaker 1: the league. I think Mookie Bets could be better than

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Speaker 1: all of them. But we have like some really domestic stars.

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Speaker 1: And I said, but here's what's funny. Even in a

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Speaker 1: year of the Olympics, the Euros COPA WNBA is smashing records.

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Speaker 1: Those all go away next year and the election. So

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Speaker 1: Fox News, MSNBC and C and NS ratings are up.

502
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Speaker 1: NBC's raiding, Olympics up, Fox COPA, Euros up. They all

503
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Speaker 1: disappear next year. And I said, if I was a

504
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Speaker 1: network president, you give me Baseball WNBA eight year deal

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Speaker 1: and one costs one seventh of the other. With Caitlin Clark,

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Speaker 1: I would choose the WNBA. And I would not have

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Speaker 1: said that a year ago. You're part of the Angel

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Speaker 1: rees thing, and I Danny, I feel like it's a

509
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Speaker 1: little bird magic to legendary players. Rivals in college come

510
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Speaker 1: to the NBA immediately good. I mean, Angel Rees is

511
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Speaker 1: like a double double record, Caitlin Clark, the playmaker, the

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Speaker 1: assist record. I've never felt this before. I'm watching the

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Speaker 1: WNBA on weekends over baseball, and it's been a good

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Speaker 1: baseball year.

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Speaker 2: It has been a good baseball year. So I'm with you,

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Speaker 2: especially because one story, and you know this from starting

517
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Speaker 2: a business. My parents were market people. I feel like

518
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Speaker 2: I have an okay understanding of it. You can tell

519
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Speaker 2: a story of growth that matters a lot baseball. The

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Speaker 2: arrow is going down NBA, the arrow is going up.

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Speaker 2: That matters fast, right, that that inherently matters to like

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Speaker 2: Wall Street investors. The narrative that you can sell all

523
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Speaker 2: of those things. The problem that baseball has as I

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Speaker 2: see it, because I do think the pitch clock was excellent.

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Speaker 2: Theo Epstein, Yeah, theo Epstein is the smartest executive I've

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Speaker 2: ever talked to in sports. He now is advising Major

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Speaker 2: League Baseball and some of this stuff, Like I think

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Speaker 2: that I think that they're trying. I don't even they

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Speaker 2: can't market stars. I don't believe that it's that it's

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Speaker 2: too hard, too hard to hit the ball, like these

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Speaker 2: pitchers have gotten so good, and the spin rate is

532
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Speaker 2: so high and the velocity is so high that you

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Speaker 2: go to these games and every team has a couple

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Speaker 2: of starters and three or four relievers whose average fastball

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Speaker 2: velocity is ninety eight miles of an hour above, and

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Speaker 2: they just the starter pitches into the fifth and the

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Speaker 2: and they bring in ninety eight, ninety eight, ninety nine,

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Speaker 2: one oh two. There's twelve or thirteen combined strikeouts. When

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Speaker 2: you when you see Roger Clemens or Justin Verlander have

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Speaker 2: thirteen strikeouts by himself, You're like, I'm watching individual greatness.

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Speaker 2: But when it's four or five guys combining for thirteen strikeouts,

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Speaker 2: and I am a pretty astute baseball fan, and I've

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Speaker 2: heard of one or two of them like that, that's

544
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Speaker 2: an inherent boring. It's just it's boring. The ball is

545
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Speaker 2: not in play enough. So I love that they're trying things.

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Speaker 2: I like the idea of, like some real radical changes,

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Speaker 2: like should we do construction on stadiums and widen the outfield?

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Speaker 1: How about this lower the mound. They did it in

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Speaker 1: Bob Gibson in the late sixties because he was just

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Speaker 1: you couldn't hit Bob Gibson. You lower the mound six

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Speaker 1: inches and the ball's not coming down at you, and

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Speaker 1: the hitting averages all go up fifteen yep, two sixty

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Speaker 1: becomes two seventy five.

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Speaker 2: If you can do that, that's great. I was surprised

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Speaker 2: that this they tried at one of the lower levels.

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Speaker 2: I think it was single A. It might've even been

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Speaker 2: lower than that. They tried moving the mound back from

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Speaker 2: sixty feet six inches to like sixty one six thinking

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Speaker 2: that the velocity wouldn't be as crazy, and the offensive

560
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 2: numbers actually went down. I don't know what the explanation

561
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Speaker 2: if that was, if like the hook and like the

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Speaker 2: curvature was too big, or like more dramatic. I have

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Speaker 2: no idea why that didn't work Like that seems counterintuitive

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Speaker 2: to me. But whatever you can do lowering the mound,

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Speaker 2: widening the outfield more foul like less foul territory. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'd be open to a lot of things, like limiting

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Speaker 2: the number of pictures on a roster, saying that you've

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Speaker 2: got to go five innings or six innings for a

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Speaker 2: starting pitcher. A foul ball isn't a strike, like, I'd

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Speaker 2: be interested in a lot of things to explore to

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Speaker 2: figure out a way to inject some offense into the game,

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Speaker 2: because I don't know Fox ad it. Did you watch

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Speaker 2: the Baseball All Star Game? I don't know if you watched.

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Speaker 1: Or now I watched. I watched innings of it. I

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Speaker 1: watched the early innings.

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Speaker 2: Those pitchers like like Mason Miller, Uh okay, how could

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Speaker 2: you possibly hit it? Like they're the best hitters in

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Speaker 2: the world and the best pitchers in the world, and

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Speaker 2: the best pitchers won. Like it's a it was a

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Speaker 2: low scoring game, you know. And so it's just it's very,

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Speaker 2: very hard to generate offense. And because the science says

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Speaker 2: and the stats say that when a pitcher goes three

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Speaker 2: times through a lineup, they are expectedly more likely to

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Speaker 2: allow more runs. Starters are getting pulled, relievers are being

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Speaker 2: inserted into the game. You're seeing all these pitching changes

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Speaker 2: and you're not. It used to be a huge deal. Oh,

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Speaker 2: Tom Glavin is starting today, Greg Maddox is starting today.

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Speaker 2: My ticket is worth more because I want to go

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Speaker 2: see that guy. Now, you go see Paul Skins. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he might strike about ten, but he could be pulled

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Speaker 2: after the fifth inning, and with the pitch clock yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's an hour and fifteen minutes. So it just you

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Speaker 2: got to figure out ways to get more offense into

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Speaker 2: that sport.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I have a deal with DraftKings, but I beyond that.

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Speaker 1: I had a deal before that with their primary rival.

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Speaker 1: Before that. I lived in Vegas for seven years, so

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Speaker 1: I didn't gamble on sports growing up. I didn't grow

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00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: up in a city there was nobody to gamble with.

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Speaker 1: We were all poor. But when I went to Vegas

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Speaker 1: for seven years out of college, my favorite thing to

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Speaker 1: do after the eleven o'clock News, where I was the

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Speaker 1: sports anchor on a Friday night during the football season

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Speaker 1: was go to Pala Station and bet parlays and bet

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Speaker 1: like twenty dollars on four different cards, and then wake

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Speaker 1: up back when college football started at nine am Pacific,

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Speaker 1: because you know, I didn't have the audience. Now they've

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Speaker 1: pushed all the games back for the revenue in the audience.

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Speaker 1: But you know sports gambling really well, you and Nick

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Speaker 1: Wright both have the poker brain. And I saw the

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Speaker 1: other day somebody there was a do gooder, you know,

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Speaker 1: there was a media do gooder criticizing sports gambling. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not obviously I'm pro media, and I think fake

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Speaker 1: news is ridiculous, But I do think the media can

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Speaker 1: be out of touch, can be really out of touch

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Speaker 1: on stuff. I thought there was too much hysteria. Though

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Speaker 1: I was pro vaccine, there was a lot of hysteria.

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Speaker 1: I thought canceling college football for young people to sit

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Speaker 1: outside in the sun in September was a little overwrought.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they closed the beaches in California and skateboard parks.

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Speaker 1: It just was overreaching. The media was hysterical when we

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Speaker 1: knew pretty pretty quickly with the science under twenty two

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Speaker 1: if you didn't have physical maladies, you were fine. It

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Speaker 1: was a you know you were gonna make it. So

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Speaker 1: I also think some of the media can be really

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Speaker 1: preachy on sportscampling. So in the companies I've worked with,

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Speaker 1: the average bet is four dollars. You cannot It's easier

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00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: to ruin your life for four dollars eating fast food

629
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 1: burgers than it is gambling on sports. Your health will

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00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: deteriorate faster than your wallet on four dollars a bet.

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Speaker 1: And I also think one of the things that sports

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Speaker 1: gambling offers, and I think it's really important and a

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00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: very tribal angry. Time in America is community. I love

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Speaker 1: betting with somebody and we have the opposite bet of

635
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: the same bet. It's just fun. Maybe it's my guy DNA.

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00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: I love having bets with buddies on games and we're

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00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: laughing and high fiving. Where are you on sports betting?

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00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: First of all, you know that I reached out to

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Speaker 1: you a year and a half ago to bring you

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Speaker 1: to the volume based on your sports gambling. What is

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Speaker 1: your overarching opinion on it? It's dangers and it's how

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Speaker 1: do you feel about it?

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Speaker 2: Well, listen, I love sports gambling. I've been betting on

644
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Speaker 2: sports since I was fifteen and it was definitely not

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Speaker 2: legal in the suburbs of Chicago. Again, parents' market people.

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Speaker 2: I don't look at it as that entirely different. Now, obviously,

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Speaker 2: you make you make a bet on Nvidia, you get

648
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Speaker 2: it wrong and this stock goes down. It doesn't go

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Speaker 2: to zero. You can lose a bet and it goes

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Speaker 2: to zero. So I understand why there are differences. But

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Speaker 2: it's it's all about It's a market, that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: It's information. I think it's good for just us people

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Speaker 2: sports consumers to have these really smart numbers. People inject

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Speaker 2: unbiased probability into the discussion of sports. I think it

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Speaker 2: makes people smarter if it is disseminated in an intelligent way.

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Speaker 2: And also as just a student of history, prohibition doesn't work.

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Speaker 2: It didn't work for alcohol, it doesn't work for the

658
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Speaker 2: sex trade, it doesn't work for gambling, it doesn't work

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Speaker 2: for marijuana. I'm not saying that everything in the world

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Speaker 2: should be legal. I understand why some things need to

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Speaker 2: be illegal, but generally speaking, if it's not going to

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Speaker 2: kill you, I do believe that it should be legal

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Speaker 2: and then regulated and taxed, and that actually would be

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Speaker 2: safer and better for all people involved, So I don't

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Speaker 2: really worry too much about the dangers. Of course we

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Speaker 2: should have the disclaimers attached, you know, the one I gambler,

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Speaker 2: you know, of course that should exist. Of course, responsible

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Speaker 2: game like I don't like when people say frant who

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Speaker 2: was someone just had to like backtrack on one of

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Speaker 2: the big broadcasts where they came out and they said like,

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Speaker 2: this is a can't lose, this is a lock bet

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Speaker 2: your mortgage on it, and he said it kind of flippantly,

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Speaker 2: but then people got on him. I forget who it was.

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Speaker 2: People could google the story. It happened, I don't know, a

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Speaker 2: few months ago. Like so, like, don't say that because

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Speaker 2: some idiot out there might actually bet their mortgage and

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Speaker 2: you could argue I shouldn't be responsible for that. But

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Speaker 2: like it's you know, in general, as long as it

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Speaker 2: is done as hey, this is entertainment. Don't out what

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Speaker 2: you can afford to lose. And you can either do

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Speaker 2: it because you are a Bears fan and you want

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Speaker 2: to bet on the Bears, or you say, I want

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Speaker 2: to bet on the Seahawks because I think that four

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Speaker 2: and a half is a good number and it should

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Speaker 2: be three, and I'm getting a point and a half

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Speaker 2: of closing line value and that's off the key number

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Speaker 2: of three and across four as an added bonus. And

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Speaker 2: I got in early on the bet on you know,

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Speaker 2: Sunday night when they posted the line, and then by

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Speaker 2: the time kickoff happened six and a half days later,

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Speaker 2: the market is corrected in my favor. Like, you can

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Speaker 2: do it both ways. You could bet for fun, or

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Speaker 2: you could bet to try to be a sharp, or

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Speaker 2: you could bet somewhere in between. And if you don't

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Speaker 2: like gambling, don't like you know, no one, no one

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Speaker 2: is forcing you to do it. I understand that it

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Speaker 2: is a if you have no interest in it, and

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Speaker 2: now you're seeing it everywhere, it feels like you're inundated

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Speaker 2: with it. But you talk to guys who did local

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Speaker 2: radio like longer than I did. It used to be

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Speaker 2: every commercial was for a car dealership, and then it

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Speaker 2: became everyone was for a beer alcohol brand. Now it's

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Speaker 2: for a sports book. Like it's whoever is the newer

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Speaker 2: thing in the advertising space, They take over and they

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Speaker 2: mass produce to try to get market share. So these

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Speaker 2: things go in cycles. But people have been gambling on

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Speaker 2: sports for the entire history of sports. I don't really

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Speaker 2: pearl Clutch about any of this. I don't do it.

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Speaker 2: Oh won't somebody please think of the children? That doesn't

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Speaker 2: really concern me too much. And I look at it

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Speaker 2: as enhancement. Frankly, it's like bacon on a cheeseburger. I

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Speaker 2: like cheeseburgers. I like bacon on a cheeseburger more. I

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Speaker 2: like watching football. I like watching football more if I

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Speaker 2: have a bet on it, Like, that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: It just enhances my sports experience.

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Speaker 1: So whenever I criticize somebody a lot like Baker Mayfield,

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Speaker 1: I always start with a qualifier. I think he and

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Speaker 1: his wife are great people. I know a private story

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Speaker 1: about them that is very complimentary. I think he's one

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Speaker 1: of the twenty best quarterbacks in the league, and I'm

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Speaker 1: rooting for him. I just thought he was overdrafted, an immature,

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Speaker 1: and so Aaron Rodgers I feel the same way. I'd

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Speaker 1: vote him for the Hall of Fame. I think there

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Speaker 1: are qualities about him that are better than Brett Farve,

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Speaker 1: but he has become it feels to me podcast guest

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Speaker 1: Slash Quarterback on that he is sort of just doing

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Speaker 1: his own thing. Bill Simmons always had this theory and

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Speaker 1: I've had a similar one. Like the older you get,

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Speaker 1: the richer you get. If you're not married, you get

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Speaker 1: a little weird. I could name like four people off

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Speaker 1: the top of night. You get a little odd. You're

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Speaker 1: on your phone too much. But I've had so many

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Speaker 1: opinions about Aaron Rodgers. I just don't think he's going

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Speaker 1: to be as good as a quarterback as people think.

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Speaker 1: His last year in Green Bay, he wasn't as good

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Speaker 1: as Jordan love Now with a very good offensive line,

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Speaker 1: a good offensive coach and like symmetry inside the building.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Solikan coach Natt Hackett's a disaster

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Speaker 1: and that online is they cross your fingers. He won't

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Speaker 1: be the best quarterback in his division, and probably with

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Speaker 1: two and Josh Allen, he'll be the third most productive.

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Speaker 1: So where do you stand on Rogers? I don't believe

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Speaker 1: you can be a savior at forty years old off

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Speaker 1: a major surgery with Josh Allen, Mike McDaniel and two

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Speaker 1: in a division. I think CJ. Stroud can in his division.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Aaron can at his age with those

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks in his division. Where do you stand on him now?

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Speaker 2: Right? So the coming off the injury part is the

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Speaker 2: huge caveat right, because we saw Brady do it in Tampa.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it is possible. But forty year old's coming

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Speaker 2: off of achilles injury with will say other interests to

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Speaker 2: put it mildly, he's not Brady, right, Brady maniacal about

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Speaker 2: football football right, football, football football football. Obviously, that's not Rogers.

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Speaker 2: This is maybe not as fact based and analytical as

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Speaker 2: you would come to expect an opinion of mine to be.

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Speaker 2: I just hope he's good, so that we haven't been

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Speaker 2: wasting our time these last two years. We have talked

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Speaker 2: so much about Aaron Rodgers on Pat McAfee and Aaron

759
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 2: Rodgers on Joe Rogan and Aaron Rodgers an RFK, and

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers the vaccine and Aaron Rodgers the toxic Internet

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Speaker 2: brain and Aaron Rodgers the troll, And I'm just like man.

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Speaker 2: He is one of the most talented quarterbacks that I've

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Speaker 2: ever seen play the position. He influenced Mahomes, he influenced Caleb.

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Speaker 2: He is a first ballot Hall of Famer. The only

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Speaker 2: player in the history of the sport with more MVPs

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Speaker 2: than him is Peyton Manning. He is one of the

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Speaker 2: first guys that I've ever seen who was a gunslinger

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Speaker 2: who didn't turn the ball over. He has a forty

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Speaker 2: five touchdown, six interception season on his liking like that

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Speaker 2: that is one of the craziest seasons I've ever seen

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Speaker 2: anyone have in my life. And so like, there's just

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Speaker 2: been so many column inches and so many takes and

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Speaker 2: so so much word vomit on Aaron Rodgers the last

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Speaker 2: two years that I want, I feel like we deserve

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Speaker 2: Jets Bengals Divisional Weekend, like I feel like we deserve

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Speaker 2: it as sports fans. I want to see Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen for the Division week seventeen. I just I'm

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Speaker 2: rooting for him to be better than his weirdness and

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00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 2: his age and his injury suggest that he should be.

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Speaker 2: Because they're gonna be on National TV six times again,

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Speaker 2: like it is a really compelling sports theater. And it

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Speaker 2: sucked watching Zach Wilson on Monday Night Football last year.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to do that type of thing again.

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Speaker 2: So I am hoping that the conversation about Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: can be about football again, because he's simply one of

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Speaker 2: the greatest football players that I've ever seen. And if

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Speaker 2: he goes out and he's just bad, he'll still be

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Speaker 2: a first ballot Hall of Famer. He'll be a bit

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Speaker 2: of a punchline, and that would suck, because, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: disagree with a ton of things that he said, but

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Speaker 2: I still love watching the guy play football, and so

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Speaker 2: I'm really hoping that we get some version. He's not

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Speaker 2: gonna be forty five and six, but I hope we

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Speaker 2: get a great version of Aaron Rodgers because then at

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Speaker 2: least it will have made the last two years of

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Speaker 2: nonsense feel like it mattered in a sports sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd be like promising your kid's a great vacation

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Speaker 1: for two years and then you go to Hawaii and

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Speaker 1: there's a tropical storm.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, you're the perfect that's the perfect analogy exactly.

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Speaker 2: It's like, come on, man, like this hat this I want.

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Speaker 2: If it's thirty to six Niners Jets in week one

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Speaker 2: and he three days, I'm gonna be like, come on,

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Speaker 2: I don't care about what he said on Tuesday. Like,

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Speaker 2: just like, give me one of those throws where you

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Speaker 2: flick it with your wrist. It's thirty yards on the

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Speaker 2: time Garrett Wilson catches it, and that game's twenty seven

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Speaker 2: to twenty four in the fourth quarter with two minutes left. Like,

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Speaker 2: give me that to make all this other nonsense worth something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I gotta say this was not how I drew

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Speaker 2: who really mattered to the show and to us. And

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00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 2: my family came in and surprised me and studio for

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Speaker 2: the last segment, which was really emotional. I kind of

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00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,720
Speaker 2: have lived my life on the radio and so shared

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00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 2: things about, you know, my first son being in the

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00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 2: hospital from his premature birth, and my dad of and

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Speaker 2: passing away, my brother passing away. So it was super

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Speaker 2: emotional bringing them all in. But then that coincided with

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Speaker 2: something that I've been working on for literally over a

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Speaker 2: year thirteen months planning a radiothon for cancer research and

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Speaker 2: partnership with the CUBS. I broadcast for twenty four hours

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Speaker 2: Thursday to Friday in honor of my brother Brad, who

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00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 2: passed away from glioblastoma terminal brain cancer. Raised five hundred

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Speaker 2: and sixty thousand dollars in twenty four hours, brought on

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Speaker 2: you know, about fourteen cancer patients, three world renowned doctors,

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Speaker 2: and then between nine p and four A took sixty

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Speaker 2: calls from people telling their cancer stories. Just incredibly emotional,

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Speaker 2: people making five dollars donations, people making surprise fifteen thousand

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Speaker 2: dollars donations. Tom Rickett's owner the CUBS donated twenty five grand.

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Speaker 2: Not expected. It was Ryan Sandberg announced for the first

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Speaker 2: time that he cancer free, like live on the air, unplanned.

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Speaker 2: I had no idea. He just happened to have his

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00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 2: last oncology appointment that morning and then came in and

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00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 2: announced it. So I mean truly one of the craziest

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Speaker 2: broadcast days of my life. Leading into Saturday at Wrigley,

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00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 2: we had planned and it had never happened before. You know,

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Speaker 2: the iconic stand Up to Cancer moment that happens at

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00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 2: the World Series or Alstar Game. It had never happened

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00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 2: at a local game at a local ballpark. So wet.

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Speaker 2: The Cubs, myself stand Up to Cancer, have been planning

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Speaker 2: this event for a long time. And Brad's son, my nephew,

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00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 2: got to throw out the first pitch to Craig Counsel,

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Speaker 2: the Cub's manager, who happened to grow up with my

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00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 2: brother Bet Brad childhood best friends. So I had my

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Speaker 2: whole family on the field where my Brad's son throws

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Speaker 2: out the first pitch. Then the stadium stands for cancer.

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Speaker 2: At the end of the fourth inning, I've got ten

888
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 2: family members standing holding you know, my brother's name up there,

889
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Speaker 2: and it was just, you know, it was it was incredible.

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Speaker 2: It was just so emotional, and the charity that I've

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Speaker 2: joined the board of directors of, I know I'm rambling

892
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 2: a little bit, but it was just like wrapping up

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00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 2: a radio show that I loved, wrapping up this charity

894
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 2: event that I'd planned for so long doing this like

895
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 2: incredibly symbolic thing in my brother's honor. It's just been

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Speaker 2: a whirlwind of a ninety six hours. Man.

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Speaker 1: Well, congratulations and your next chapter. I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: give it away, but it's it's exciting, and it's it's

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Speaker 1: I think one of the more enjoyable things for me

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Speaker 1: at this point in my life is watching young talented

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Speaker 1: people get opportunities and help lubricate those. And you're going

902
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: to crush it wherever you go, and we both know

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Speaker 1: where you're going.

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Speaker 2: So no, that's the thing, like after the radio thought,

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Speaker 2: I'm supposed to have a week off, and now it's

906
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 2: I'm coming to you from a hotel room, you know.

907
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 2: So like my life is not slowing down anytime soon.

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Speaker 2: But listen, I wouldn't have it any other way. I

909
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 2: could not be more excited about what's next. You just

910
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 2: have to prom that you'll have me on the pod

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Speaker 2: when we can actually talk about it.

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Speaker 1: All right, Danny, whatever you're doing the mystery that's about

913
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Speaker 1: to be unveiled, I hope you're a regular on my podcast.

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Speaker 1: And it's good talking again, buddy, and congrats on all

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Speaker 1: your success Colin.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. You know anytime I would love

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Speaker 2: to come on. Thank you sir the volume.

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