1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: Episode six, Cam Jordan's Off the Edge podcast. We're tuning 2 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: in live with me as we just went ahead and 3 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: lost to the Houston Texans. When I tell you we 4 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: went ahead and lost, there were so many opportunities to 5 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: win this game, and that's why I'm most frustrated. We 6 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: got a game against the Jacksonville Jaguars coming up this 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: week Thursday, so that's a quick change. So this episode, 8 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about, you know, the mentality it takes 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: a play this game. We're gonna talk about knowing your quarterback, 10 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: you know, and just the evolution of quarterbacks and mobile 11 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: quarterbacks from the you know, stagnant, big pocket quarterback passers 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: they used to be to now these mobile, young athletic 13 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: at a quick gunners that you have in the league now. 14 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: And just the changes of defensive players from you know, 15 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: back when I was a kid, to back when I 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: entered the league in twenty eleven to two what it 17 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 1: is now. Stick with me, stay tuned. Just remember, leave 18 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: a review a five star rating on Off the Edge 19 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: with Me Cam Jordan. 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I 30 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: need to get off. Speaking of wins the Saints, we're 31 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: looking towards this next Thursday night game. Turning this page fast. 32 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: It is what it is. We have to find a 33 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: way to stack these wins. Wins come in bunches, Let's 34 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: find their way to stack them. 35 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: That's interesting because last week Sheldon Rankins from the Texans 36 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: was on the pod and he says how he sees 37 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: it with them is he can see they're on the 38 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: verge of stacking wins because of how they're engaging with 39 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: each other, how they're practicing, and then that's translating into games. 40 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 2: So for you, are you just not seeing that with 41 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 2: the Saints and what's missing why are you guys win? 42 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: It's literally again game of inures. Right, Let's take it 43 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: back to Green Bay drive down. You know, Derek Carr 44 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: gets hurt, Jameis Wins comes in, drives down, puts us 45 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: in field goal position. We miss a field goal, which 46 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: what do we lose the game by two points? One point? 47 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: That was that was the game finisher. You know, fast 48 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:39,119 Speaker 1: forward it to h this game and you say, all right, 49 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: you could have been within reach. The whole dynamic of 50 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: a game changes depends on how close you are. Right, 51 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: we lost twenty to thirteen. You miss, we have the interception. 52 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: They don't put seven point. They can't put seven points 53 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: up on that board. That drive they have to start 54 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 1: backed up even if we don't put ports one. So 55 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: that's at least a four points or possible fourteen point swing. 56 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: So let's just say those seven points are not are 57 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: non existent. So now it's a thirteen thirteen game or 58 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: the twenty point swing, and we make our two field 59 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 1: goals that we miss, and now it's sitting at nineteen 60 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 1: to twenty with that drive down the you know, the 61 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: drive by Derek Carr that last series, and you kick 62 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: a field goal that puts you at twenty two to twenty. 63 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you just gotta you have to have 64 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: to know where you're at at all times in the game. 65 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: So it's us like, how do you not look at 66 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: the possibilities and be like, we could have been a 67 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: team that have been five and one right now here 68 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: we are at three and three. There's possibilities, and it's 69 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: the minutia. It's as small, it's a finer details that 70 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: you have to pay attention to. Everybody has to be clicking, 71 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: you know, for our defense this past game, we let 72 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: up like seventy or eighty yards in that first half 73 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: and then the second half twenty three under thirty. You 74 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: have to focus on what you can control. So if 75 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: you lock up the run early, you make them a 76 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: one dimensional type team, then that's you get to have 77 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: some fun. 78 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 3: Are you looking at the standings at all? 79 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know how that's going to help 80 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: me win this week. So no, good. 81 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: Not just to where you guys are in the playoff picture. 82 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: I know it's super early in the season, but the 83 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: Eagles and forty nine ers have lost. They're no longer undefeated. 84 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: You guys are one of four teams in the NFC 85 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: that are five hundred and so somewhere five in the 86 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: mixed deal. 87 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: Now, I'll say I will say this later on in 88 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: the year. Later on in the year, you're like, after 89 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: like game the week eleven, twelve thirteen, You're like, all right, 90 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: well we won, So what does that put us in standings? 91 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: Are we lost but they lost too, So what does 92 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: that put in the standings? Right now? We're on this 93 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: roller coaster of win one, drop to when or whatever 94 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,559 Speaker 1: that is, right, win one, lose one, win one, lose 95 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: to win one, lose one. You got to find some 96 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: consistency in those wins. Those wins have to somehow start stacking. 97 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: You have to build your foundation now so you could 98 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: and so you have the ability to be like, all right, 99 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: were the fourth seed, but if we can beat this team, 100 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: this thing, this thing, we could slide it to the 101 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: second seed. We don't even have the right right now. 102 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: We are sitting at five hundred. So all we're doing 103 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: is focusing on what we can control and how we 104 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 1: play play this game. 105 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 3: Well, you guys did get the first pick on CJ 106 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 3: this year, so and. 107 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: Give it right back. There's that, and give it right 108 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: back and give it right back, which I hate that 109 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: for my guy because my dog, Zach Bond had a 110 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: phenomenal play that was that was such a great read, 111 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: great pick. Security bag, got a security bag. It's like, 112 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: what sack got him do more than click clicked the 113 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: ankles on a twenty year old. He's got fresh ankles, it. 114 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 4: Is with this. 115 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 3: It was a second play. You almost got him too, 116 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 3: coming around the edge. 117 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: So yeah, we went into this game knowing that it 118 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: was gonna be one of those frustrating rush games. He 119 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: was releasing the ball on average at two point two right, 120 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, he's so young as as rookie, 121 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: As a rookie quarterback, you don't know his tendency is 122 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: for real, Like, oh, I've seen him escape, you know, 123 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: through weak side b gaps a lot, or I've seen 124 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: him roll out to opposite of me. You know, he 125 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: likes to roll out that way to open up and 126 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: throw a ball down the field. That's where you sort 127 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: of want him to be. You wanted to be out 128 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: scaped out the pocket for this quarterback. What I didn't 129 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: see was him retreating backwards for twenty five yards to 130 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: then chuck a ball like that just that wasn't in 131 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: my so on a veteran quarterback, you know their patterns, 132 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: their tennessees, you know where their drop depth is. You know, 133 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: I'm looking at I'm looking at C. J. Strouds drop 134 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: death and I'm like, oh, he likes to be at 135 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: eight to nine. I'm start I started rushing at eight 136 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: to nine, and he's staying firmly in that five to six. 137 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if that tells you anything, but it 138 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 1: means you have to create a soft edge so you 139 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: can now bend or eliminate that. Or now you're just 140 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: playing the speed of power game because he's still getting 141 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: this ball out really fast. So I think you know 142 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 1: it just it sort of changes your rush plan a lot. 143 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: And that's why I've also said numerous times, you're not 144 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: rushing against your tackle anymore. You're rushing against the quarterback 145 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: and where he's going to be. Like, are cool and all, 146 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: But if I see a quarterback likes to step up, 147 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: now I'm just rushing to a spot to come underneath. 148 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: Or now everything has to be quicker because I know 149 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: he like he doesn't like the flush. He likes to 150 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: step through. 151 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: So what if you're facing a guy like Jalen Hurts 152 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 2: or Lamar Jackson, guys who are constantly moving around the 153 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 2: Potts first. 154 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: Of all, two completely different players in terms of how 155 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: they escape. Jalen is Jayleen is stronger and can of 156 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: course escape anywhere. Primarily speaking, he likes to He likes 157 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: to escape through the middle, right. Lamar Lamar doesn't care 158 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: el freaky. Uh he's he's first of all, he in 159 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: terms of trying to sack him, he dips right, so 160 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: he dips forward, so you go over there like you 161 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: had to come grounded if you try and hit him 162 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: from the side. He dips forward more times than not. 163 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: He's he makes people miss because they go over the 164 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: top of them, right. And once he goes off the top, 165 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: then he enters the NFL Street volume two, you know activities, 166 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: And now it gets spooky season because now you're like, 167 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: as a DN, You're like, I can't lose contained, so 168 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: I gotta rush him high. I got to rush to the 169 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: top shoulder, and at the same time he's quick enough 170 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: to lurch forward, so I have to come at him 171 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: out of balance, and all the while you're like at 172 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: the top of this rush and you got this three 173 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy pound sumo wrestler pushing you in the 174 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: back now, or like you're dealing with this three hundred 175 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: and thirty pound monstrosity that is an offensive lineman just 176 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: trying to push you in some sort of direction because 177 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: he knows what he has at quarterback, right It's not 178 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: like you know, when you get when you get down 179 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: to a you know, a heavier quarterback, which they're starting 180 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: to be non existent now. There used to be some, 181 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: you know, back when it was the it was the Roethlisbergers, 182 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: the Byron Left which the Josh Freeman's, the you know, 183 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks that were could get loose but not really 184 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: would like to stay in that pocket. 185 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 2: You knew exactly how the effort. It's probably the one 186 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 2: that's like heaven not. I was gonna say Baker, but 187 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 2: Baker moves, Baker moves get out. 188 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 189 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, so well then who who would you say is 190 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 2: the hardest quarterback to defend in the game right now? 191 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: For you? Probably the mar Probably probably the Mare. 192 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 3: I mean you just laid out why so yeah, I 193 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:21,719 Speaker 3: made it. 194 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw him as I saw him when he 195 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: was a rookie, when he came in for Joe Flacco. 196 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: That man almost bent the corner on me. And I 197 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: tell you that was the fastest quarterback to date. And 198 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 1: I was like, no, I'm gone against fast quarterbacks. There's Cap, 199 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: There's Cam Newton. You know, I've gone against some scat 200 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 1: type quarterbacks. Na Lamar his rookieyear, he like he almost 201 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: turned up. I clipped his I barely clipped his shoe, 202 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: and he went down for like a three or four 203 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: yard game. And I was like, look at God, not 204 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: only am I talented, but I have I have blessed luck, 205 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: you know. And then you just think about, you know, 206 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: the last time we played him, there was a time 207 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: where I, like I said, almost sacked him twice in 208 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: the same play. I like sacked him when the top 209 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: popped up, was trying to chase him down. He went, 210 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: you know, fleshed out and laser beamed. One said, all right, 211 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: these are the plays that you have to live with. 212 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 1: I should have got him down the first time. 213 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 3: So you're at let's see. 214 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: One sixteen and a half. So like on a great year, 215 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 1: when everything's going the right way, you're sitting at if 216 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: you don't split those half sacks, you're sitting at five sacks. 217 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: End of the year, I'll probably be sitting at about ten 218 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: eleven sacks. I'm just gonna speak in to fruitions, you know, 219 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: So like it's about that time to start take off. Yeah, 220 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: it's about that time. 221 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 3: Ten eleven. That'll put you at one seven. Let's say 222 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 3: one twenty eight. 223 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: Oh so yeah, I say, I'll sticking like ten eleven. Hole, 224 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: but like yeah, yeah, fu for get it, let's go 225 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, why not? 226 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 2: Okay, So let's say you're at one twenty eight. This 227 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: goes back to the whole how long will you play conversation? 228 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 2: Is there a number in your mind that you say, 229 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 2: all play to get to this number? 230 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 1: Man, I'm living in the grace of God for a reason, 231 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: Like this is all land yep for me. I play 232 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: in my mind. When I got to the league, I 233 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: was like, I got to make a Pro Bowl. I 234 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: can't be a failure. Got to make a Pro Bowl, right. 235 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: I made my first Pro Bowl at year three, and 236 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: then I was like, all right, well I'm not a failure. 237 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: So I was like then I turned into a quantity guy. 238 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: I was like, well, if I get fifty sacks, that 239 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: is a heck of a career. And at the time, 240 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: I was like, if I can make it two eight years, 241 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: ten years. I just threw out ten years right on 242 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 1: my wildest dreams, and I was like ten years, seventy 243 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: five sacks. And then you know I had that at 244 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: what like year six or seven maybe, So then I 245 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: was like, all right, well, I was like if I'm 246 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: year six and I really year five in going after 247 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: the pass rusher, they were going after the quarterback. Because 248 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: year one I only had one sack. I was like, really, 249 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: I've gained so much ground. I was like, let's shoot 250 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: for one hundred and so that was the new goal. 251 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: And then after I got one hundred sacks number so 252 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: number one was Cam Newton, number one hundred was Tom Brady, 253 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: and then broke these Saints sack franchise record whatever that 254 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: is on Gardner Minshew not saying there was like a 255 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: dip there, but I'm just simply saying, Caam Newton first, 256 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, hundredth sack record Gardner Minshew. 257 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 2: I just looked it up because his name came to mind. 258 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 2: Bruce Smith, legend, Georgia plate to forty. 259 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: Yes he did. I guess who will not be doing that. 260 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: Cameron Jordan is saying it. 261 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, you know how much. 262 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 1: I can't say, can't knock on wood. God has blessed 263 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: me with so much, like good health, phenomenal continuity to 264 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: continue playing this game and have the love of this 265 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: game that I have so much would have to go 266 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,599 Speaker 1: wrong for me to be like, yeah, forty forty is 267 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: the new goal. 268 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 3: That was investments ain't hitting right. 269 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: No, I was, I was. I was even given thinking 270 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 1: about the money game. I was thinking like like right 271 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: at year you know, at the end of year fifteen, 272 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: we like get to NFC Championship and I'm like, man, 273 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: We're so close, and we come back again an NFC championship, 274 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: You're like, damn, I'm so close, and like it would 275 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: have to be a lot of like rude ways the 276 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: exit out of the final round to make me believe 277 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: that I was going to come back for this next 278 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: year coming up next. It might as well be Kim Folk. 279 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: But he's not Kim Folks. There's no blood relations there. 280 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: Big dog, big man in the post been doing this 281 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: a long time. If I've been playing in the NFL 282 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: for a long long time, We're going to bring in 283 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: my dog in the NBA. DeAndre Jordan, Big Dre coming 284 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: up next. Ticktoon Cam Jordan, Off the Edge. Appreciate you 285 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: coming in and tap it in with Off the Edge 286 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: with Cam Jordan. Super excited to bring in a man 287 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 1: I've admired for a long time since the day's a 288 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: lob city another Jordan. We're not Kim, but I feel 289 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 1: like that's my brother right there. 290 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 4: I feel like down the blood line, there's some kind of. 291 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: There's got to be some sort of connection, you know, 292 00:13:58,679 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: DeAndre Jordan. 293 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, Cam Jordan's Cameron Tyler Jordan. I mean, we got 294 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 4: the hair, the must It's always like some kind of 295 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. The Jordan looks are very 296 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 4: very strong, so you know, right, you know what I mean, 297 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 4: So we gotta. 298 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: Pull it off. I appreciate you tapping in, Bro. I mean, 299 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,239 Speaker 1: you know now you're you're now, you're a world championship. 300 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: I just value your time being with the Denver Nuggets. 301 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: How does it feel like? Let me let me pop 302 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: this off because I was reading something earlier about you 303 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: saying that gold Olympic medal was better than a ring. 304 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: Is that still stand or does. 305 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 4: I think obviously you know now I'm fortunate enough to 306 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 4: have both. So that is that's awesome in itself. However, 307 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 4: I think that at that time, and even when you're 308 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 4: a kid, like I know, you remember watching the Olympics 309 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 4: with your family, you know what I'm saying, like staying 310 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 4: up watching all kinds of events, and when you think 311 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 4: about our respective leagues, you think about, Okay, we're playing 312 00:14:55,640 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 4: against twenty nine other teams and that's what it is, 313 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 4: you know, But when you're playing against other countries, it 314 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 4: just to me that heightened everything. It wasn't just the 315 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 4: Nuggets playing against the Lakers or the Warriors or any 316 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 4: you know. It was us twelve players from the USA 317 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 4: versus other twelve players from different countries. And that was 318 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 4: to me, that was that was that was very very 319 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 4: big and huge. And I'm connected with those guys that 320 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 4: I want to go middle with forever. But just that 321 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 4: feeling that win in the NBA Championship was crazy that. 322 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: I heard you, but big, but you know. 323 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 4: That, I mean it was. I mean, I don't know 324 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 4: if I can swear on here. 325 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: I mean I started off just to let you know 326 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: you could you know. 327 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean that'sh It was insane, man, It was, 328 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 4: I mean, we tore the locker room up, you know 329 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 4: what I mean, like just doing it for fans. All 330 00:15:54,960 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 4: my family was there, so that was just you think 331 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 4: about all of the times before, you know, getting eliminated 332 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 4: in the playoffs and all these things for fifteen years 333 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,479 Speaker 4: prior to that, and they're finally winning that. You appreciate 334 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 4: that so much more, man than this. It's amazing solf 335 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 4: a champion. 336 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: You know, we talked, we talked about it last year. 337 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: You're sitting sitting at a dog Stone Spears house just 338 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: about like, man, you know, like I get I get 339 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: this one, and I feel like this this team can 340 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: be special. What gave you that feeling that was gonna 341 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: be special? I don't know. I've never been to the 342 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: top of the mountain, you know what I'm saying. I've 343 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: been to a conference championship. 344 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, that you are the top of the top. Though. 345 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 4: You are the top of the top, and you know that, 346 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 4: and we talk about that all the time. However, I 347 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 4: do you know still you know, wish that you know, 348 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 4: you could come over to my Cowboys. I would always 349 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 4: I would always love I think you know, that's that's 350 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 4: my dream, you know. Yeah, yeah, technical even though I 351 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 4: do have a Camp Jordan Saints jersey. 352 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: I mean it will make better, you know, say blue 353 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: and white. Just come on. 354 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 4: I'm just you know, I can't get in trouble with Tampain, 355 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 4: so it's absolutely not. 356 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: But when that taint the legacy, like I'm headed the 357 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: year like thirteen. Here, we'll have fourteen and fifteen with 358 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: the Saints. So you're asking for a year sixteen to 359 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: go to another team? Does that taint the legacy? 360 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 4: It does not. 361 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: And he's on fifteen. And what do you remember Jerry 362 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: Rice when he played for the Denver Broncos. 363 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 4: No, that's a good point. 364 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: No you don't. You barely remember Steve Nashll he played 365 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: for Dallas. 366 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 4: But think about this, when Kevin Garnett went to the Celtics, 367 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 4: he won boom, when your boy what's his name Stafford 368 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 4: left one? All right, I want my brothers to win. 369 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 4: That's what I'm you know, no doubt Shaq. 370 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: Shaq won in Miami. But you don't really remember him 371 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: at the Suns, and I do because I've got his jersey. Yes, 372 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: you know I'm big. I'm big, mister Phoene sons. I'm 373 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: from tail, Arizona. Like I got the shock Shaq Diesel Sons. 374 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: But you don't remember, remember that, it. 375 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 4: Wouldn't even be a fire drive for you guys. Just 376 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 4: it over, Just come on, let's go. The kids will 377 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 4: love it. There's a ton of good hoop out there 378 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 4: for Nikki, no doubt, no doubt. 379 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm stuck, you know, I'm stuck and happily stuck. 380 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: It's like being in a marriage. I'm happily here. I 381 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: see people outside having fun and that's great for them. 382 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 4: I'm happy. I mean, you know, hey, every every chance 383 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 4: I get, I'm gonna I'm gonna try to slide there 384 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 4: playing some seeds. You know what I'm saying. So are 385 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 4: You're like, wow, maybe he was right? You know, Okay, 386 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 4: I think about it. You know what I'm saying. 387 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: No, And every time I'm like, no, how could I leave? 388 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: It's too They're too good to me. Like it's like 389 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: when when they know exactly what you like? You know, 390 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: I have, you have, you have set routine, You got 391 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 1: your set people. 392 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 4: Like once you get to a routine, like athletes in 393 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 4: general are, and people in general are super meticulous about 394 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 4: their routines. And I know for us especially, I don't 395 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 4: know how y'all do it. You know what I'm saying, Like, 396 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 4: that's just we joke. We've joked about being playing football, 397 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 4: but that is a joke. There's no way, like I 398 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 4: you know, I would only play in the red zone 399 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 4: and you know I would hey throw it up once 400 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 4: or twice, but after that, I'm cool, Like I. 401 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: Just you catch one over the middle. You got a 402 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: safety coming down in the linebacker pinching between. 403 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 4: I'm gonna just I'm gonna just like college. I'm gonna 404 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 4: catching it, fall on the ground and just be like, Okay, 405 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 4: I'm down. Nobody touched me. I'm down. 406 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: You know. 407 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 4: I'm not getting back. Don't worry about it. Yeah, but 408 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 4: I mean you got to You guys are animals out there, 409 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 4: and I love to watch it every every week. 410 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: So hey, I want to say we argue. We argue 411 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: about that that basketball mentality. Anyways, we talk about load management. 412 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: We see guys like playing I'm like, I don't even 413 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: I don't know what that is. But then again, you 414 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: guys have eighty two games versus my seventeen. 415 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 4: You know, like we talked about that for sure, but 416 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 4: I'm also thinking too, like after my games, Yeah, I'm 417 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 4: a little sore, especially depending on the opponent that you 418 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 4: go up with. But after every game, y'all play. I 419 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 4: remember one time you told me like I don't know, 420 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,959 Speaker 4: like this is, you know, bad for the NFL. But 421 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,479 Speaker 4: I've had it all. Like I don't really get out 422 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 4: of bed the next day. I'm chilling. I don't want 423 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 4: that on my body, Like I don't like I got 424 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 4: kids think like Daddy, we need let's go outside, we 425 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 4: need to play. I'm like, yo, I can't. I can't 426 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 4: do it. You know, I don't want that. You know 427 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. 428 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: You turn on the TV and then you just have 429 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: you have cartoons in the morning until your body the. 430 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 4: Night all of that. You know what I'm saying. We 431 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 4: don't watch just a movie marathon today. 432 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: No nobt what as soon as as soon as season ends, 433 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: I do not leave that bed for at move like 434 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: body shut down. I see basketball guys, you know, get 435 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 1: bounced out of playoffs. And you guys had that joke 436 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: running last year like see you in Mexico and people 437 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: really going to Cabo or whatever was. It was like 438 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: a day after a game, big fell the day after 439 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: game mama, like the like the big breath out the chest. 440 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: It all hurts. 441 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 4: That is true, man. Yeah, man, that's you. Guys put 442 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 4: your body through so much athletes in general, but football 443 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 4: is just that's a lie. Man. 444 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: But I like you, like you love it, you love this. 445 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 1: But I love hitting people, love breaking people. Like knowing 446 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: I've hit somebody to the point where like I'm like, yeah, 447 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: tomorrow they're gonna feel that or like smack. 448 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 4: That right there, makes me know that something not right 449 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 4: with you. That's a that's an insane mindset to have. Man, 450 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 4: I don't have. I don't have thatt you. 451 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: Six eleven in the post, DJ, I've seen what you've 452 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: done in the post. Let's just take it back to 453 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: like ten year anniversary. I saw online of the when 454 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: you said the Brandon Knight outside of the protective Big 455 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: Yam Live City Prime not even dread the answer. This 456 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: was like the short yeah, the high. 457 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 4: Top yeah go tee boy. Yeah. I mean that's different. 458 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 4: That's different. It's not crazy physicality like that. Think about this. 459 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: Your elbow was own somebody's neck. 460 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 4: That wasn't my fault though, And I didn't go into 461 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 4: it like yeah he go, yeah he gonna feel this 462 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 4: tomorrow like I didn't. I didn't that's that's your mentality 463 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 4: going into a game. Think about this. When I get 464 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 4: prepared for a game, I'm putting on some path of tights, 465 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 4: maybe you know, a top with the rib guard whatever. 466 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: I don't even like the way you said patty tights, 467 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: Like I just didn't. 468 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 4: Y'all got it. You got you putting on a full 469 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 4: night and shiny armor equipment to go out here. Like 470 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 4: what Like, that's I'm cool. 471 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 1: Were you were you in the paint? What's your mentality there? 472 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: And protect? 473 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 4: No, it's just dominance, you know what I'm saying, Like, 474 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 4: you gotta go, And I agree with that, you got 475 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 4: to go. Certain parts of the basketball game and basketball 476 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 4: court are very different than other parts. Like some parts 477 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 4: of the game you can be crafty and skilled and 478 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 4: free flowing, but some parts is it's muscle, you know 479 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 4: what I mean, And it's it's a it's a collision 480 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 4: every time, you know, And that's what the paint is. 481 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 4: So it's it's a lot of that. 482 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: No doubt you've had You've had some of the biggest 483 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: highlights in the game that ever really been had, like 484 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: those those highlight dunks. You're always gonna remember, just like 485 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: you know when I'm hunting quarbacks. I'm always gona remember 486 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,719 Speaker 1: my first quarterback, my hundred court, my hundred sacked. I'm 487 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: gonna remember, you know, some specific like I got three 488 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: sacks off of Michael Vick, Philly Mike, not Atlanta Mike, 489 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: but still Mike vic d Mike. 490 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 4: Vick, still very agile and a great player. 491 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: For for you, what is like some of your most 492 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: memorable It doesn't even have to be like, oh, like 493 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: the I belonging to lead the eye, dominated the league. 494 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: I'm the all you know, I'm the All Star NBA 495 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: All Star that I am. Are there moments like that 496 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: for you? 497 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 4: Like man, I think for me one of the one 498 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 4: of the greatest things as a young player. Uh and 499 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 4: and rest rest in piece of this legend. Kobe, we 500 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 4: played against the Lakers and they used to kick our 501 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 4: ass all the time, and they were supposed to. You know, 502 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 4: we were still up and coming young players. They would 503 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 4: kick our ass all the time. And I remember my 504 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 4: I think it was my end of my rookie year. 505 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 4: You know, when the Bets stopped playing and I started 506 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 4: this game against you know, it was Kobe Andrew buying 507 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 4: them Paul Gasol and I had a really good game 508 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 4: I had. I mean I had a ton of dunks. 509 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 4: You know, it was black and shots. I played really 510 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 4: well and Kobe came to me after the game, you know, 511 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 4: you dabbing it everybody up and he's like, man, you're 512 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 4: you're a beat down there. Man, You're gonna be a 513 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 4: hell of a player. Keep working on your game. And 514 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 4: I was like, oh, whoa, yeah, give me that. Okay, 515 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 4: cool that you know I getting. And I'm just still 516 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 4: that shot because I'm like, Okay, they just beat our ass. 517 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 4: I'm supposed to be mad, but I'm also taking this 518 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 4: advice in from this great Hall of Fame winning mentality 519 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 4: guy telling me about myself. So I really took that 520 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 4: to heart. And I got in a car call my 521 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 4: brothers and then I was like, hey, man, I talked 522 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 4: to Kobe after the game, you know, and they were like, 523 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 4: what are you saying? What are you saying? I'm like, 524 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 4: you're not gonna believe it. So I told him and 525 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 4: they was like, oh, they're going crazy. I'm like yeah, man. 526 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 4: So like for me at that point, I was like, man, 527 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 4: if he took the time out of his you know, 528 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 4: post game routine to come and talk to me and 529 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 4: tell me about the game. I just had like that. 530 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 4: That meant a lot for me as a young player, 531 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 4: especially from a guy who you know, probably wasn't even 532 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,479 Speaker 4: looking at young players like that. He's worried about his 533 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 4: own routine and his team. But I took that to 534 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 4: heart and that MA and me really feel like I 535 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 4: belonged and I wanted to continue to get better. So 536 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 4: every time I saw him or he saw me play, 537 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 4: he didn't think that he was wrong about what he 538 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 4: told me. 539 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, oh yeah, he gave me a respect. 540 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 1: Keep earning that thing. 541 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 4: As a nineteen year old kids, you kind of like, 542 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 4: oh yeah, thanks man, appreciate you. Oh you know. 543 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: I mean that's some of the stuff that's still trippy 544 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: to me. Bro, Like to hit the NBA at nineteen 545 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: right for me, it doesn't even ring true. Like I 546 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: got drafted at twenty one. I didn't play until I 547 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: was twenty two, you know, like July baby, so drafted 548 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: in April or made whatever that is, and then so oh, 549 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: you get drafted out of Texas A and m nineteen. 550 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 4: Nineteen nineteen, straight straight to LA and I had never 551 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 4: been to LA before. I went to like San Diego 552 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,239 Speaker 4: for high school like all American camp, but I had 553 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 4: never stepped foot in La ever, So that was h 554 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 4: And that was the first time, you know, living on 555 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 4: my own. My brothers were still in like high school 556 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 4: and middle school, so my family. 557 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: Right coach ain't even hit like the miners yet. 558 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 4: No no, no, Kojo was still in high school pitching, 559 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 4: So it was it was a great experience for me. 560 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 4: So I feel like, and I obviously asked for my 561 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 4: first ten years in LA, so I feel like in 562 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 4: a sense, I kind of also grew up in LA 563 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 4: a little bit for sure, experienced you know, obviously like 564 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 4: my young adulthood out here. And then you know, I 565 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 4: started a family out here. I met my wife here, 566 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 4: a lot of my close friends are here, So I 567 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 4: feel like, you know, this is also a second home 568 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 4: for me too, and it's been nothing but great for 569 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 4: me here. But you know, coming into the league at nineteen, 570 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 4: I'm really glad that I had structure and some great 571 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 4: og vets around me to kind of keep me in 572 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 4: line as a young player. Man. 573 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 1: For sure, I see teams that like have these high 574 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: draft picks, high caliber draft picks, but you know, the 575 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: team doesn't have a good vets score or like you know, 576 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: they just emptied out from the prior year. I'm like, oh, 577 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: that sucks for this rookie because now he's got to 578 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: he's got to manage a team without like proper veteran, like, Hey, 579 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: this is the dog that you get look up to, 580 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 1: and it's gonna force you to be a dog yourself 581 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: if you're not already a dog. And even if you're 582 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 1: a dog, this this helped shape you into like the 583 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: proper way of how to take care of your body, 584 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: take care of your mind, get through a full season. 585 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 4: Yeap and and then and no bullsh like you know, 586 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 4: uh you Donnas has On was like he just retired. 587 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 4: He was one of the last like true og og vets, 588 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, like not taking those go 589 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 4: call you out, hold you accountable, you know what I mean. 590 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 4: And I think that that is missed in the league 591 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 4: a lot, uh at this point, because when I came 592 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 4: in the league, I had, like man, I had Baron Davis, 593 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 4: I had Ricky Davis, Marcus Canby, h Zach Randolph, like 594 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 4: I had Tim Thomas Continum, I have Vets. I had 595 00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 4: like in the league for like over thirteen years. So 596 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 4: like those guys were really like and they were you know, 597 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 4: they were tough guys to be around. You know what 598 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like it wasn't no like you know, I'm 599 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 4: a I'm a hate man. Come on, like, let's do 600 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 4: it this way. Let me help you, blah blah blah, 601 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 4: a man, get your ass like you know what I'm saying. 602 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 4: It was. 603 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: It was you know, since how we do things is 604 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: how you fall in line. 605 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 4: This is what we're gonna do. This is how you 606 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 4: want to Yeah, you're gonna help us get the bags 607 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 4: off the plane. You go eat last. This is this 608 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 4: is how it goes. So I think for meat last. 609 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: But we have rookie. We have our rookies like you 610 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: either got to bring us, like you know, food for 611 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 1: our off day meetings that we have for our d line. 612 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 4: We did that. 613 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: No question food on the plane for sure? 614 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 4: Yeah I was. I was Uber before Uber for sure. 615 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Like no question designated driver or or you pay 616 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: or you paid for the driver. Yeah I wasn't paying 617 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: for the driver. 618 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 4: Knee downstairs at this time. Okay, where we're going, don't 619 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 4: ask no questions, just come on, you know what I'm saying, 620 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 4: Like it was Okay, yes, yes, sir, I will be there, 621 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 4: you know, and it was. But those guys truly, truly 622 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 4: like took care of me and taught me how to 623 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 4: be a pro on and out the floor and. 624 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: Explain to this eat last you just said, because you know, 625 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: food's big in my life. If in the off season, 626 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: I'm a food eat you hate food? To me? You 627 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: you hate food? But like, either way, let's just talk 628 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:15,479 Speaker 1: about this. 629 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 4: I loved what I just I am more conscious about 630 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 4: what I'm you know what I'm. 631 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,719 Speaker 1: Saying right, I just would like to say, what does 632 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: this eat last mining Like we're talking about like meal tables, 633 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: like mealholes or what is. 634 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 4: This like after shooting around? You know whatever it is. 635 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 4: You know I'm coming in. Cool, we gotta then. You 636 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 4: know the spreads are crazy, I'm sure, like for y'all 637 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 4: you on the station, uh pancake waffle station, you know 638 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 4: all of this stuff. So I'm like, okay, cool, I 639 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 4: just got a good workout in. I was there early 640 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 4: because I'm a young player. I get there a couple 641 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 4: of hours before a workout. Stay after boom, I'm getting 642 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 4: line boom, wash my hands, but I got my plate. 643 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 4: Yahd DJ, what you doing. Oh, I was gonna replenish 644 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 4: the nutrients that I lost in practice? Is that? 645 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: Okay? 646 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 4: No, no, no, get your ass in the back. Everybody 647 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 4: know the ogi's got to eat. 648 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: Before you eat there already or like they're there. 649 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 4: But I'm okay, I just kind of like you no, 650 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 4: got in line, Like I thought there was a line here, 651 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 4: you know, but apparently there is not, you know, backing order, 652 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 4: not a line exactly. So I remember I was a 653 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 4: rookie with two other guys, Eric Gordon who was with 654 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 4: the Sons right now, great great player does some great 655 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 4: things in the league for he's in the sixteenth years 656 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 4: also and another guy who was from Milwaukee and Mike Taylor. 657 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 4: So you know, we had our little crew and we 658 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 4: had to just wait until everybody was had already went 659 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 4: through the line at least one time, and then we 660 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 4: can grab our plate and get our food. So yeah, 661 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 4: so that was kind of like our routine, like and 662 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 4: Wes bring a snack bar. Yeah, I'm gonna just stay 663 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:45,719 Speaker 4: at the gym as long as I can because I 664 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 4: know these dudes eating, So why would I get on 665 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 4: the first bus. You know, I'm gonna just cover way 666 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 4: around and then that's just kind of how it it was. 667 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 4: And yeah, that was it. 668 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: Sixteen years later though. 669 00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 4: Man, sixteen years later. 670 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: You're my hero because you're you're hit the untouchable room. 671 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: Like for me, it's fifteen and. 672 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 4: Like fifteen and then you coming to the Cowboys, Let's 673 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 4: go fifteen. 674 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: I have to have a talk with missus Jordan. Maybe 675 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: I told you fifteen, right, how are you feeling. 676 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 4: That your mind that you want to play fifteen? Yeah? 677 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: No, that's that's done. That's done. Like I saw my 678 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: extension this year, and then you know, Saints organization has 679 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,719 Speaker 1: been phenomenal. I have never had it. I've never even 680 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: touched for agency. Don't even know what it feels like. 681 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: I've never played without guaranteed money. And that's a rarity 682 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: in the NFL world. 683 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 4: That's huge. Yeah. 684 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: I was like, hey, they're like, how long you want 685 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: to play? 686 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 3: Three? 687 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: Three years? I said, I got two more after this, 688 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: and we worked that out and almost what is it 689 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: one hundred percent guaranteed not ninety five percent guaranteed? Whatever 690 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: that is? 691 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 4: Can you go get to fifteen and you're like, man, 692 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 4: I can go one or two more for sure. 693 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: You're not d you don't understand the love and sweat 694 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: and blood that I put into this game. 695 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 4: At fifteen, I understatement, you know, once you once you 696 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 4: come to the Cowboys, it's gonna be a new founding 697 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 4: energy coming. You're gonna be ready. You're gonna feel a 698 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 4: new life again. 699 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: Absolutely that that could be. That could pose you know, 700 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: some major questions because in two years, will the head 701 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: coach still be there with the quarterbacks still be there? 702 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: This ain't basketball, you know, like guys, guys rotate asap. 703 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: I've been blessed to be here thirteen years, and all 704 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: my friends have came gone and or became coaches on 705 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: the team and left already, like she. 706 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 4: You've been at the long inside everybody right now. 707 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: Right everybody, everybody. Once Drew Brees retired, it was me 708 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: and a punter Thomas Morristead, who now he's bounced a 709 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: few places. He's over at the Jets kicking his butt off. 710 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: But like, I've just been watching people come and go, 711 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: and like after like year five or six, I was like, 712 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: hey man, I'm gonna tell you now, guys come and go, 713 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: I'll be here. Hey. I went through five four decordinators 714 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: in the first six years of my career. You know 715 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: that's for me. That's like a hell coach, Like I 716 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: don't have to really deal with the head coach. I 717 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: deal with my d C. 718 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. 719 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: You know, so, hey, I'm gonna be here. There's no. 720 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 4: Man. When you come over to the Cowboy, maybe they'll 721 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 4: sign me to the practice roster, you know what I mean, 722 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 4: And then. 723 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,959 Speaker 1: We can after this year when you come on down 724 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: to the Pelicans, you know what I'm saying, or you 725 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: ship on over to the to the Phoenix Suns, you 726 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: wearing that purple orange, You're gonna be the first act 727 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: of Jersey I ever buy. 728 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 4: Bro Like I can't get okay, yeah wait I like that. 729 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean because then I then I really be 730 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: out there, like yeah, yeah, yeah. You see the name 731 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: of the back my guy we talked about you you'll 732 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: come to mon Is. There is there one dunk specifically 733 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: that you ever mark as your favorite, Like I've already 734 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: mentioned the Brandon Knight joint Chris Paul hits you with 735 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: the you know just came from uh the New Orleans, 736 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: New Orleans Hornets at the time. Yeah, and then you know, 737 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: lob City was was invented. 738 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 4: Pretty pretty crazy, man. We had a We had a 739 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 4: ton of highlights on that team, but I think obviously 740 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 4: I would probably have to go with the Brandon Knight 741 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 4: one against the Pistons. But man, there was so many 742 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 4: great dunks. 743 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: Man. 744 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 4: But I mean, I think one of my favorite dunks 745 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 4: that I've seen live probably isn't even one of my own. 746 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 4: You know, we had another high jumping young fella on 747 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 4: the team there as well, And I think one of 748 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 4: the favorite ones I've seen is Jamal Crawford got to 749 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 4: steal pass it, Blake got to steal pass up Jamal. 750 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 4: You know, Jamal always did crazy stuff, but it was 751 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 4: it looked normal, like it looked like he was supposed 752 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 4: to be doing it, you know, it didn't look Flashy's 753 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 4: just like, oh that's his game came down. I think 754 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 4: you've seen it before. He put the ball between his 755 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 4: legs through a love Blake catches and win meals and 756 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 4: in the game, I'm like, man, this is crazy. You 757 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like, who does that in the game? 758 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like, that's. 759 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 1: I don't have that in two K, Like I chatted 760 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: that one out. They don't have that in two K. Foresta. 761 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 4: It's crazy like Jamal. I mean, I think I believe 762 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,760 Speaker 4: that Jamal is a future Hall of Famer, I hope, 763 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 4: But like just his creativity alone to do things on 764 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 4: the fly during the game, especially something like that on 765 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 4: the fast break is just it was insane to see, Like, 766 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,399 Speaker 4: and I feel like I was a fan of our 767 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,399 Speaker 4: team making these players and it was like a kid 768 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 4: like in the game, Oh whoa, I'm looking at the 769 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 4: gumbo try trying to see the replay again, like while 770 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 4: the game is going on. But that was Yeah, I 771 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 4: was not gonna lie. 772 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 1: Definitely definitely a highlight for sure, one because Jamal Cropper 773 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: had a great stint with the you know, fig shunt. 774 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: But also I love the way y'all show love on 775 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 1: the bench too though, especially like the younger players, like 776 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: oh geez, once after like year eight, nine, ten, whatever, 777 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 1: it is like, yeah, I'm you're not celebrating this hard. 778 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 4: You're all the stress on my knees, my hamstrang, I 779 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 4: got to get up. It's a lot. 780 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 1: But when you got the super padded seeds, you got 781 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 1: that the heat wraps around your knees. Yeah, I'm like 782 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: that mean he's active game. 783 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm here, Mama fired I'm like, here we go, 784 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 4: like and now in the NBA, there's so many great players. 785 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,720 Speaker 4: It's like you find yourself standing up every thirty seconds, 786 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So it's uh, it's it's 787 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 4: a lot, but it's I mean that energy that we 788 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 4: feed off of each other in the crowd and just 789 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 4: the gameplay in general is it's big. 790 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: I literally went a ten days just so I could 791 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: be on a bench one day, just so. 792 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 4: I can you see what That's what I'm saying. We need. 793 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: I want to be a hype man. 794 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 4: War up blondes, get you a layuplines, get you a 795 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 4: couple of dusk. 796 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: That's all I got. I'm like Lebron right now, I'm 797 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: I'm just dunking off two feet though, like I'm no longer. 798 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,240 Speaker 1: You see you see them jump up to us. Okay, 799 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 1: it's about you know what I'm saying. I can get 800 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 1: up there now. It's just it's not it's not a 801 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 1: oh I'm I've never just been what doesn't know what 802 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: that felt like? 803 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 4: Two points two points. 804 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 1: A talk about talking about dominance and especially you know 805 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: you guys won the championship last year. We talked about 806 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: you know, I asked you last year, so I'm just 807 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 1: gonna ask it again, Like what's the difference between like 808 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 1: Joker as a big man that people can't stop? You know, Like, 809 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 1: what what is this mentality? Because you've we've talked about basketball, 810 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: we talked about whatever, but you're like, this dude is 811 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 1: unstoppable whatever it is, Like, how does that translate on 812 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: the basketball court? 813 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 4: First of all, I think that Nicola is so. 814 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 1: Just never say his first name out loud, appreciate. 815 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 4: It, and we don't even call him Nicola, Like I so, 816 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 4: I don't even know why I said that, Like Yok 817 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 4: is just so he's at his own pace, you know 818 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like nobody can speed him up. His 819 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 4: footwork is incredible, his hands are incredible, his IQ is 820 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 4: off the charts. He's obviously like I love you, Yok, 821 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 4: but like he's obviously not the most athletic guy on 822 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 4: the floor. He knows how to use his body, he 823 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 4: knows angles, he knows where he wants to put the ball, 824 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 4: and I think that when you put all of that 825 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 4: stuff together, it's it's hard to stop it. He's such 826 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 4: an unselfish player here that we have to tell him 827 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 4: to shoot the ball more. He's gonna make the right 828 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,879 Speaker 4: basketball play every time. He's not gonna shoot when he's 829 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 4: double team, he's gonna be Okay, coul, I'm gonna pass it. 830 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 4: I work my way into the game, you know. And 831 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,959 Speaker 4: that's just when you got the leader of your team 832 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 4: and you know, arguably the best player in the league 833 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 4: doing that night in the night out like that, just 834 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 4: thats sets the tone for everybody else on your team. 835 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,399 Speaker 4: I think that he's done that for for years now. 836 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 4: And that's why we know. We won a championship last year. 837 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:32,839 Speaker 1: No doubt. And all he wants to do is get 838 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 1: back to his horses. That's it. I SA saw the 839 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: cliffs of my man partying harder when his horse win 840 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: a race, and then when y'all win a whole championship. 841 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: I said, Oh, they're different. 842 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 4: You see guys on the plane, you know, they're some 843 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 4: people watching movies, listening to music, texting. He watching the 844 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 4: horse races, you know what I'm saying, Or like looking 845 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 4: at YouTube videos and horses like oh, DJ I like 846 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 4: this one. I make it this one. I'm like, oh okay, cool, 847 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,399 Speaker 4: like show me, you know what I'm saying. Like I think, 848 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 4: but I think I think that's also good to have 849 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 4: some balance in your life and not just you know, 850 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 4: have basketball beat everything, you know, like the end all 851 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 4: be all of your life. You gotta have some other 852 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,280 Speaker 4: things to kind of take you away from a sport 853 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 4: a little bit. 854 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: You have to, I mean, especially you guys are always 855 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 1: like you guys seem like you're always on the road. 856 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine, like I'm on a short week. You know, 857 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: I play Sunday at noon. I got a game on Thursday. 858 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,399 Speaker 1: I gotta rapidly get my body ready, like hope, hope 859 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: you don't get dinged up on Sunday because you're like, okay, 860 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: well I slap a band aid on it. I just 861 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 1: need it. I need to go. You know, you guys 862 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 1: play everyone two three days. When season starts going, like 863 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 1: you'll have those back to back day stretches where you go. 864 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, could you imagine playing back to back football game? 865 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: The answer is not anymore. Like younger me, absolutely, you 866 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 1: used to go to those like those flags flag or 867 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 1: not even flat seven all seven games to play all day, 868 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 1: like let's pick up basketball. You know, younger, younger high school, 869 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,800 Speaker 1: you would play. You know, you play with your boys 870 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:03,399 Speaker 1: just streetball Steell ask them all. Broh, Yeah, the heads 871 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: up right, college, you could probably drink the night before 872 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 1: the game like she's you can probably get that. Oh, 873 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: you know, workouts five am cool. I'm gonna just drink 874 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 1: all the way through four point thirty. Now I'm gonna 875 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: hit this thing and it's gonna hurt. But I'm a 876 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: power through no doubt NFL after the first two years, Yeah, 877 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 1: I got nothing for you. Let's talk about this body 878 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 1: work though, Like I didn't. I didn't even get massages 879 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 1: until I was like year six or seven, for real, 880 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,919 Speaker 1: for real. I didn't get in the hot cub until 881 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, like people make fun of 882 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 1: me now that getting hot tubs. I was year nine 883 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 1: or ten. You know, like I've just I've just gotten 884 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: to this realm of actually taking care of my body. 885 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: The you know, great tire pressure. I mean, I'm a warrior. 886 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 1: Look do you see do you see that pirate mustache? 887 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: I gotta believe it, bro, Like mortality is is not 888 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 1: real if you don't believe it's real. 889 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,320 Speaker 4: Bro, it's just Captain hook. But you gotta have some recovery, 890 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 4: dog to have some recovery. 891 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:02,840 Speaker 1: So when did that start for you to? 892 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 4: Man? I started my recovery routine, like I think my 893 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:14,399 Speaker 4: second year I was I was like the events would 894 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 4: will be icing or getting in the cultub, you know, 895 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 4: and they're like, oh man, you better throw some song. 896 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 4: I'm like, my knees, don't hurt, my back, don't hurt. 897 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 4: I don't need that, you know, and they're like, no, 898 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,399 Speaker 4: but if you do it now, it prevents you from 899 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 4: doing it later. It'll help you create longevity. And I'm like, 900 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 4: all right, like I'll do it whatever. So I'm sitting 901 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 4: in there after the game, ice on my knees, ice 902 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,319 Speaker 4: on my back, feeding the ice bath, you know, and 903 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:39,800 Speaker 4: then it just became a part of my routine. And 904 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 4: you know, like anybody else in our in our sport, 905 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,359 Speaker 4: once you get a routine, it's kind of hard to break. 906 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 4: And that's just kind of been my routine. And then 907 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 4: when I got older, I was like, oh wow, like damn, 908 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 4: I feel great. Maybe it's because I was doing these 909 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 4: things to prevent it. And then I got into you know, 910 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 4: colbat therapy like infra red sona work massage, working all 911 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 4: these different things, chiropractice stuff and anything to kind of 912 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 4: like getting the advantage for your body and create some 913 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 4: longevity with that is what I was interested in. 914 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna talk about that. You said, you 915 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,439 Speaker 1: stick your feet in a in a cold tough with 916 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 1: with the cold. What, Yeah, I don't believe. I don't 917 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 1: believe in cold. So like, come on, hot hot to 918 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 1: you only getting the hot hot tough infra red you said, 919 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'll get I'm getting the sounding with the 920 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,320 Speaker 1: boys go. I get the steamer when the boys go. 921 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: But I'm a firm believer. I'm a firm believer in 922 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,880 Speaker 1: blood circulation, right, and when you circulate, that's when you 923 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 1: get the best results. And it's a hot. 924 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 4: Tough I agree with that on thousand per cent, But 925 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,400 Speaker 4: like what about like a contrast. 926 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 1: I've heard that works really well. And like I get, 927 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 1: I get in the cold tub once a year. The 928 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: d line pretty much decides it once yeah, right before 929 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,839 Speaker 1: like probably playoffs or like towards the end of season, 930 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 1: and dlight be like, hey, camp d Line happened in 931 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 1: the cold tub, And like the older ones know because 932 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 1: I don't go. You know, like if it's under sixty five, 933 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 1: it would be no surprise. Cam J's not in you 934 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like. 935 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:12,319 Speaker 4: Under sixty five, Come on, we got a coat up 936 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:12,839 Speaker 4: here at the crib. 937 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 1: You do it? Didver so like you, I don't even 938 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 1: know how to drive and snow. I don't know how 939 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 1: to I barely. 940 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 4: Last year was the first time I had to like 941 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,720 Speaker 4: shovel the driveway and like do the what's the little 942 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 4: skaper thing on the window? I told you, I told 943 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,359 Speaker 4: my wife. I was like, man, I don't know how 944 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,800 Speaker 4: to do this, you know, like this is I'm shoveling 945 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 4: the driveway. Oh listen, I shovel the driveway. Me and wife. 946 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,840 Speaker 4: You out there. I'm like I'm I'm I'm getting after it, 947 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 4: like I'm flying around out there ground and yeah, and 948 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 4: afterwards we looked around. We was like, what's this thing. 949 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:53,320 Speaker 4: It's the snowblower thing. We did all of that work 950 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 4: and we found out that the snow blow was in 951 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 4: the garage. 952 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:57,919 Speaker 1: But you felt accomplished. 953 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 4: I felt accomplished. But I was out there. I was 954 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 4: you know, you're working hard if it's snowing outside and 955 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:09,839 Speaker 4: you sweating, like that was you went. I did my thing. 956 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 4: I was happy with it because I was like, this 957 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 4: is you know, like this is man's work. Like I 958 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 4: was really excited about like being his husband's stuff to 959 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,719 Speaker 4: be doing, you know, and then afterwards I was like, 960 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 4: that was book. You know. I shouldn't have done that. 961 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 4: You know, I should have been looking at husband husband 962 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,600 Speaker 4: work is being smart, you know what I'm saying. Looking around, 963 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 4: Let's see if I can make this job easier for me. 964 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,840 Speaker 1: You know, you just became my hero because if my 965 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,799 Speaker 1: household we fell o, I don't screw in a light bulb. 966 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 1: These hands is broke. Baby, I do too much work, 967 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 1: too many people out for you to be like, hey, 968 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,319 Speaker 1: could you I can take the trash out. 969 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,880 Speaker 4: I feel you, I feel you. 970 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,319 Speaker 1: Give me this. I can get you out of here. 971 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 1: What is your favorite NFL player? Now, I'm just take 972 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,320 Speaker 1: myself out of it because I don't want to be disappointed. 973 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 1: Jordan saying my guy beyond me. Of course you probably 974 00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 1: say Dak Prescott beyond you. 975 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 4: I'm a big I love defense. I do believe that 976 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 4: defense is a big part of championship. So I'm gonna 977 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 4: have to go Michael Parsons. 978 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 1: Okay, it's freaking nature. That makes perfect sense. 979 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,840 Speaker 4: He yeah, like yeah, he does a lot of crazy 980 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,320 Speaker 4: things and does he really have a position. 981 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 1: Like athlete, Like you know, you get recruited out of college, 982 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 1: out of high school to go to college, and he's 983 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 1: got the a T h athlete. Yeah, that's what he is. 984 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 4: You know, just stick him in there. He'll make a play, 985 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 4: no doubt. 986 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 1: A year or two ago we were talking. He was like, yeah, 987 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 1: I don't really have a pastor's move. But I was like, 988 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 1: I'm learning and I'm better than they are, and yeah 989 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 1: you're faster. Yeah you have proven that. Yeah, continue, young man, 990 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 1: Mikey eats and now he's got he's actually getting the 991 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,760 Speaker 1: ursehol like he's only going to get scarier. 992 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:47,359 Speaker 4: All right. 993 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 1: What about what about basketball? 994 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 4: Though? 995 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 1: Your favorite favorite basketball player of all times? You out 996 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 1: outside of it. 997 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,400 Speaker 4: And that's tough. Cam. 998 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:03,360 Speaker 1: You gotta have a favorite, you have someone you modeled 999 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:04,319 Speaker 1: your game after. I have. 1000 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:08,400 Speaker 4: I have two favorites. Growing up in Houston, I was 1001 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,239 Speaker 4: a big Rockets guy, So I gotta say I came 1002 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,719 Speaker 4: a lot one m hm. That's I mean, that was 1003 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 4: just yeah crazy. And then you know, coming up in 1004 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,719 Speaker 4: high school, like I stopped having favorite teams because I 1005 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,399 Speaker 4: was like, man, one day, I'm a play against these guys. 1006 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 4: So I don't want to have a favorite team. I 1007 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 4: want to have favorite players. And just the intensity and 1008 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 4: the love of the game and the dominance that Kevin 1009 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 4: Gartner showed on the floor. 1010 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 1: Bro was just that's why I rock with you because 1011 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 1: you know, I was born in Minnesota, so that was 1012 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 1: my guy too. 1013 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:41,799 Speaker 4: Kevin Garnet is just he man, his just so much 1014 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 4: intensity on the floor, like he like every question mattered, 1015 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like sweating, spinning in the 1016 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 4: air like that, like that's that's is. 1017 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,279 Speaker 1: Just no doubt. If I want to be a basketball player, 1018 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:53,839 Speaker 1: I wanted to be. 1019 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 4: Like you as to this. 1020 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,719 Speaker 1: Corner and take this shot like that elbow shot. 1021 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 4: Like just and he came in the game out of 1022 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,839 Speaker 4: high school just ready to go, you know what I'm saying, 1023 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 4: Like not a lot of people are able to do that, 1024 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 4: and it was just he did that for a long time, 1025 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 4: won championship like you know, all Star MVP, like he 1026 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,640 Speaker 4: did big shit. So that was it was. It was 1027 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 4: cool to be able to like look up to him 1028 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 4: and also play against him. 1029 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,359 Speaker 1: Was great, no doubt. This astounding career that you've had, 1030 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:25,720 Speaker 1: All Star Gold medalists now world you know, NBA champion. 1031 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,840 Speaker 1: What's what's left? Bro? Like you're going into year sixteen, 1032 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 1: you're going twenty Bro, I'm speaking into existence because you 1033 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 1: just that hell of a player. Like it's this crazy work. 1034 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,279 Speaker 4: With you done when he is crazy. When I first 1035 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 4: came into the league in nineteen, I was like, oh, yeah, 1036 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:39,920 Speaker 4: I want to play twenty because I'll be thirty nine. 1037 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 4: I could do that twenty years. But then when you 1038 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 4: start to have kids, You're like, whoa, I don't want. 1039 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:46,759 Speaker 1: To Kids slowed you down. 1040 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,319 Speaker 4: Kids kids slow you down. Kids slow you down, but 1041 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 4: in a good way. They they make you look at 1042 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 4: life differently, you know, to let you know the Hey, 1043 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 4: basketball isn't everything. And you know, when you know my Jaden, 1044 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 4: who you saw earlier, he's seven, so he's in second grade, 1045 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 4: and you know, so you start to they get into sports. 1046 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,440 Speaker 4: They have plays and assemblies and you know, so I 1047 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,399 Speaker 4: don't want to miss any of that stuff, and yeah, 1048 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,759 Speaker 4: I want to miss as little as possible. So I 1049 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,880 Speaker 4: think that whenever, because you know, Zenna is only eighteen 1050 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,799 Speaker 4: months now, but whenever Jaden is kind of like, hey, 1051 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 4: like I want you to be here. It's kind of 1052 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:25,719 Speaker 4: it's gonna be hard to say no, you know. 1053 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 1: For sure, you we've accomplished so much. 1054 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, but I love the game. I'm still competitive. 1055 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,920 Speaker 4: I still am extremely in love with basketball and the 1056 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:37,439 Speaker 4: camaraderie and also like teaching young guys like so I'm 1057 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 4: still here for it. 1058 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:43,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, love it, love it. See I love that because 1059 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,840 Speaker 1: I mean I've got you know, I've got three active 1060 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,239 Speaker 1: playing soccer and football. And I think my wife does 1061 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 1: a hell of a job. And she like, hey, I 1062 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,480 Speaker 1: need you to hear. I'm like, no, I should. I 1063 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 1: should be getting body work. You know what. I'm definitely 1064 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,000 Speaker 1: gonna be there. I'm there. I'm there, like I'll figure 1065 00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,400 Speaker 1: that out, like whatever it is. Oh man, So watching 1066 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:01,920 Speaker 1: the kids play in a little eight year old play 1067 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 1: flag football, He's like, damn we can I hit It's 1068 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,960 Speaker 1: not your time, not your time. 1069 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 4: We geteen fourteen. 1070 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,920 Speaker 1: No doubt, you're going to have a lifetime full of 1071 00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,960 Speaker 1: everybody wanting you to be on their football team just 1072 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,200 Speaker 1: because of your size alone. And then they'll be like, 1073 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,359 Speaker 1: your granddad played, and your dad played, you got to play, 1074 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,400 Speaker 1: and I'm trying to get him to play basketball. I'm like, bro, 1075 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,319 Speaker 1: it's okay. When you have a sprain ankle. You don't 1076 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,600 Speaker 1: have to play through it. You can just play basketball, 1077 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,200 Speaker 1: you know, like when you break something, that's what you 1078 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,800 Speaker 1: don't have to do. It's literally my line, it's okay 1079 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 1: to be softer, like. 1080 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 4: Softer eighty two games campos. 1081 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 1: But it kind of just not. It's twenty something that 1082 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:42,919 Speaker 1: is very true. 1083 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,279 Speaker 4: That's you know what I'm saying. That's I'm I'm trying 1084 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:46,640 Speaker 4: get a scholarship career man. 1085 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I'm going to scholarship. Just like, what's the 1086 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,279 Speaker 1: easiest path to get the scholarship money so he can 1087 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 1: be smart. I'm trying to go academic route. 1088 00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,399 Speaker 4: I'm not trying to pay for college at all. That's 1089 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:56,400 Speaker 4: not hey, I. 1090 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,440 Speaker 1: Told I told my daughters, Hey, bro, I'm paying I 1091 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,720 Speaker 1: got a seven, five and two. I'm like, hey, daddy 1092 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,120 Speaker 1: plays for college or the wedding. Daddy doesn't pay for both. 1093 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,520 Speaker 1: So you know, we gotta get you. We gotta get 1094 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 1: you rolling sweet hot, like there's a soccer ball you're 1095 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,399 Speaker 1: like us, You're like, you're like basketball. Okay, it's time 1096 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,280 Speaker 1: Whitey has her coaching position already. 1097 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,000 Speaker 4: You know, I know Nigga is ready. I know he's 1098 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:19,400 Speaker 4: ready to. 1099 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,640 Speaker 1: Go compete on everything. They compete and get this kid better. 1100 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 1: That's that's now your job. 1101 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:25,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go. 1102 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 1: Anyways, I appreciate you Broth tapping in with me one 1103 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:29,000 Speaker 1: time for the one time. 1104 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,359 Speaker 4: Thank you, man. I appreciate you having me man all world. 1105 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,400 Speaker 1: Bro Finally time my dogar I had two three podcasts 1106 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,919 Speaker 1: and finally din't join in off the edge of can Jordan. 1107 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,160 Speaker 1: It should be off the edge with you know, the 1108 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,799 Speaker 1: big perimetive player coming on inside and outside, DeAndre Jordan, 1109 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,439 Speaker 1: big big blocks. You come see him. 1110 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:59,400 Speaker 5: Appreciate you, Yes, big up to my big dog Dre Jordans. 1111 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,840 Speaker 1: You know DJ if you show DeAndre big man in 1112 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:04,840 Speaker 1: the paint been doing in such a long time. I 1113 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 1: mean the wisdom. This man has his Vegan powers, whatever 1114 00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 1: you want to call it. I believe that. You know, 1115 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 1: every time I talk to a basketball guy, it just 1116 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,840 Speaker 1: makes me feel like I'm really a Barbarian in this 1117 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,280 Speaker 1: world because the NFL is completely different from our mindset. 1118 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,880 Speaker 1: Just the physicality, but you can see it in the 1119 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,360 Speaker 1: way basketball players to play eighty two games, the mental 1120 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,719 Speaker 1: forty two that they have, and just the way they 1121 00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:33,280 Speaker 1: take to the game. That preparation is key through all sports. 1122 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,440 Speaker 1: You have to be honed in and focusing, locked in 1123 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,640 Speaker 1: on exactly what's important, and that's the next practice, that's 1124 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,200 Speaker 1: the next play, that's the next game. You got to 1125 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,800 Speaker 1: take all of it and stride. Take care of your mentals, 1126 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,759 Speaker 1: take care of your body. I appreciate you for tap 1127 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,640 Speaker 1: it in off the edge with me, Cam Jordan, don't 1128 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:52,279 Speaker 1: forget to leave a five star review. Follow us on 1129 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:57,399 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio app wherever you get your podcasts on Man, 1130 00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,279 Speaker 1: we're gonna have a blest We're gonna be here for 1131 00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,759 Speaker 1: not even a good time, but a great time. Don't 1132 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,279 Speaker 1: even think of it a long time, but a phenomenal time. 1133 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,680 Speaker 1: Everything here been sensational. Appreciate y'all tapping in peace.