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Speaker 1: at the Star in Frisco. And now your hosts Isaiah
Speaker 1: stand Back, Patrick Walker, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeomans. It
Speaker 1: is a wonderful Wednesday edition of Talking Cowboys, presented by
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Speaker 1: the s WBC Studios. Welcome in, everybody, Hello, Cowboys Nation,
Speaker 1: Patrick Walker, Isaiah stand Back, Rob Phillips, Chris Beam, I'm
Speaker 1: Kyle Yeomans. Gentlemen, how we in here on this Wednesday
Speaker 1: flos Lovely lovely, lovely, lovely, lovely. What about you? Pat? Well,
Speaker 1: we have some bit of sweet news coming here. Short. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about it here in a little bit. Don't worry,
Speaker 1: we'll get the first. Yeah, we've got to get We've
Speaker 1: got to talk a little bit of football. But there
Speaker 1: is a major segment for me, major announcement coming up
Speaker 1: here in the next couple of minutes, so be sure
Speaker 1: to stay tuned. But we are going to preview the
Speaker 1: Cowboys defense versus the Lions offense today. Lions come in
Speaker 1: with some pretty good numbers behind Jared goffin company. But
Speaker 1: we'll see if the Cowboys can unmask what is either
Speaker 1: real and or fake about that Lions offense at some
Speaker 1: point in the show. But Patrick, like you alluded to it,
Speaker 1: let's get to news and notes here from Rob Phillips
Speaker 1: to get things started as we all normally do, a
Speaker 1: little bit of a different schedule today for the Cowboys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it sounds like they're gonna do. They haven't officially announced it,
Speaker 1: but it's it's gonna be like it. Well, it's coming
Speaker 1: off the Giants game. We're Monday night. They Mike pushed
Speaker 1: everything back on a Wednesday, So try to just push
Speaker 1: it back as much as possible to get them on
Speaker 1: the field in the afternoon. Probably do something fairly light.
Speaker 1: I would think, more like jog through style, and so
Speaker 1: we'll probably talk to the players a little earlier today.
Speaker 1: That's what they did after the Giants. That's what they're
Speaker 1: gonna do after Philly and they're facing Alliance team that's
Speaker 1: had some time to rest. Ye had a bye week
Speaker 1: and to regroup after getting shut out by the New
Speaker 1: England Patriots. And I thought this was interesting. Just a
Speaker 1: little note stat Kyle that maybe if you'd like to
Speaker 1: use on big facts, you're probably already done with that.
Speaker 1: I'm not so yeah, I would actually love to use that. Honestly.
Speaker 1: Heading into the Pats game that they lost, they were
Speaker 1: averaging thirty five points a game and allowing thirty five
Speaker 1: point three points per game. That combined, two eighty one
Speaker 1: points and points allowed were the most by any team
Speaker 1: in the first four games of a season in NFL history.
Speaker 1: So a little jack will hide there. So it reminds
Speaker 1: me of what's up the Cowboys Circle twenty twenty twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: where it's just like they were basically just racking up points,
Speaker 1: but their defense was allowing like one point more than
Speaker 1: the offense was gaining. That's right, that's right. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: uh so we'll see, we'll see what that does for
Speaker 1: the matchups. As far as practice goes, Dak's gonna be
Speaker 1: out there as long as he was cleared, and that
Speaker 1: was the expectation according to Mike McCarthy, that he's going
Speaker 1: to have a full practice and uh and we'll see
Speaker 1: how that goes, because if if Sunday's pregame workout, was
Speaker 1: any indication he's ready to go for Sunday? I think
Speaker 1: so that's that's the feeling around camp. Is it's not
Speaker 1: even a question or is there a question? Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: kind of left it up to interpretation. On Monday, I
Speaker 1: had a couple of people hit me up and asked me,
Speaker 1: is Dak ready to go? Like, is this a legitimate
Speaker 1: thing or is he just playing a little games gamesman's
Speaker 1: ship at the same Yeah, thanks, because I probably should
Speaker 1: have been that, like and and Isaiah. It's speak to
Speaker 1: this having played the position, I think physically with the finger,
Speaker 1: the thumb, he's ready. He can throw it, he can
Speaker 1: take snaps. We saw it pregame. It's the timing. And
Speaker 1: that's what McCarthy left open was how's how's how's he
Speaker 1: doing from a timing standpoint running the offense. He hasn't
Speaker 1: done any of that since week one. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: we've mentioned it here on the show before. In terms
Speaker 1: of his cadence with the office a line make sure
Speaker 1: they're in sync with him. Everybody's like, well, he's quarterback,
Speaker 1: he's QB one. Yeah, but he's been out a while,
Speaker 1: so they've kind of become you know, I become acclimated
Speaker 1: to Cooper Rush's cadence. So that's one thing. The communications
Speaker 1: another thing, making sure that you know the velocity on
Speaker 1: the ball the receivers are used to it, because if
Speaker 1: you're not used to the same velocity, and then then
Speaker 1: you're more prone to tip balls, you're more prone to
Speaker 1: balls coming you know, going through your hands, all those
Speaker 1: type of things. Right, So those are the little intricacies
Speaker 1: that people don't really think about when they think about
Speaker 1: a quarterback coming back into the fold, regardless of what
Speaker 1: his depth was on the chart. But you know, I
Speaker 1: think things will be fine, you know, with a weaker practice,
Speaker 1: I think they'll have more than enough time to get
Speaker 1: him ready in calip rated with these guys, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it goes back to what Mike McCarthy was saying.
Speaker 1: It's timing. You know. Obviously the cadence plays into it
Speaker 1: as well, but McCarthy wanted to get some throwing, some
Speaker 1: real real throwing going on as effective yesterday, which would
Speaker 1: have been Tuesday, to start working on the timing with
Speaker 1: the offense, and then today he's looking to ramp it
Speaker 1: up to what he said on Monday would be a
Speaker 1: full workload of throws. So as long as there are
Speaker 1: no setbacks and Dak Prescott is a full participant today
Speaker 1: which is more of a walkthrough, jog through, but most
Speaker 1: certainly tomorrow which is the biggest day, biggest practice day
Speaker 1: of the week on Thursday, and then Friday would be
Speaker 1: a little bit of a cool down but still get
Speaker 1: some work in. All signs are go as we have
Speaker 1: this conversation, So as long as there's no weird swelling
Speaker 1: that pops up or sewing us or anything like that,
Speaker 1: I anticipate fully that Dak Prescott is on the field
Speaker 1: for the Detroit Lions. You kind of feel the same way,
Speaker 1: same same I think I wonder I kind of wonder
Speaker 1: if they've been circling this one all along, yeah, because
Speaker 1: like and they haven't told us that and I don't
Speaker 1: know that for sure, but I think Monday was exactly
Speaker 1: six weeks since the startin maybe five or six weeks
Speaker 1: and so um, and they've been calculated style ramping him
Speaker 1: up like that. The plan was get him in a
Speaker 1: little practice last week and then do this work out
Speaker 1: and he was never going to play against uh the Eagles,
Speaker 1: but but now full week and then let's go that
Speaker 1: I think that seems right on course, what's the strategy
Speaker 1: to push him practice back? Is it just long trip,
Speaker 1: want to gain some extra time off or like what
Speaker 1: is that? Yeah, just uh really pushed back the day
Speaker 1: a little bit, just because I think they're not going
Speaker 1: to get on the field till late in the afternoon.
Speaker 1: It'll be afternoon, yeah, Carth he's not even speaking until
Speaker 1: three o'clock. So it's it's basically just like you said
Speaker 1: to Staggering, they got in late or early Monday morning.
Speaker 1: You did too, Yeah, Patrick didn't get any extra time off.
Speaker 1: Well you know this is we pushed the show back
Speaker 1: an hour, but that's about it. Yeah, well we always do.
Speaker 1: You grind, grind through. So yeah, it's just it's just
Speaker 1: them Staggering. Had they had been a mid day game
Speaker 1: and you know, the team had gotten in earlier um
Speaker 1: or late Sunday evening as a poet, and then he
Speaker 1: likely would not have changed. So he's just adjusting based
Speaker 1: upon what they're coming off of one Sunday. So we
Speaker 1: got one last news and note to hit and this
Speaker 1: is probably the biggest one of them all, Rob, it's
Speaker 1: the biggest. It's a big you know, I haven't wanted
Speaker 1: to bring this up. And I I've assumed I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get emotional, but I've got Isaiah next to me, and
Speaker 1: he's just gonna make me laugh. It's good. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is my last show. This is my last day
Speaker 1: at the Cowboys. Um. And there's people out there who
Speaker 1: fans out there that uh oh he left once already,
Speaker 1: he's coming back. He'll be he'll be back, He'll be back.
Speaker 1: But no, I am, I'm taking another opportunity, um, outside
Speaker 1: of sports. It's a it's a chance to you know,
Speaker 1: grow as a leader. I think could take on a
Speaker 1: leadership opportunity, which I'm excited about. And there's great people
Speaker 1: here that have taught me that and how to how
Speaker 1: to do that, you know, Derek and Nick and Scott
Speaker 1: and so many others. Um. So I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 1: But it was a it's a tough decision, um, because
Speaker 1: of the personal side of this place. Like and I
Speaker 1: told Nick and Derek this, all the opportunities I've gotten here,
Speaker 1: that's great. This show has been an absolute blast. I
Speaker 1: love you guys. It's been so much fun. Chris to heck,
Speaker 1: when we started this in two, you know, three years ago, Um,
Speaker 1: doing deep blues and things like. It's great opportunities. But
Speaker 1: it's the personal support that we have here that it
Speaker 1: made this decision so tough, because, um, you know, it's
Speaker 1: been a I'll pull real quick. I'm just gonna pull
Speaker 1: back the curtain a little bit for the last couple
Speaker 1: of years. And it's been a couple of tough years
Speaker 1: for everybody, right for me personally in our you know,
Speaker 1: my family, it's been a tough couple of years. We've
Speaker 1: we've lost some family members. Um, I had a tough
Speaker 1: year this year. You're up until about June personally with
Speaker 1: some health stuff that I'm good now, but um, and
Speaker 1: I've heard I've seen some comments people notice the weight
Speaker 1: loss and they probably you know, that's a that was
Speaker 1: a thing. But I'm good now. But the support that
Speaker 1: I got from everybody, Derek and Nick, that means everything.
Speaker 1: That's why this is like home to me, and that's
Speaker 1: why this is hard to do. But I just want
Speaker 1: to thank everybody out there too, because doing this job,
Speaker 1: it's a unique job that we have where this is
Speaker 1: your office, but there's thousands of people that are watching
Speaker 1: you do your office in your cube, watching, listening, writing,
Speaker 1: and you guys have made me better by just being
Speaker 1: present and making me have pride in what I do.
Speaker 1: And I would anyway, but to another level. So thank
Speaker 1: you everybody out there, and thank you guys, because this
Speaker 1: has been an absolute blast. It really has been. And
Speaker 1: when the news dropped to us a little bit earlier,
Speaker 1: I mean it was like a like a brick was dropped.
Speaker 1: I mean Rob is the glue guy of this entire department.
Speaker 1: I mean he has been here. How long have you
Speaker 1: been here? I don't know. I blacked out halfway. I've
Speaker 1: lost track. I don't think HR knows. They tried to
Speaker 1: add it up. I think this is my seventeen season
Speaker 1: off and on helping out. And I started in OH
Speaker 1: three as an intern and Mickey hired me. This is
Speaker 1: bad for me. Mickey hired me when I was still
Speaker 1: in college in OH three and Mickey and Derek I
Speaker 1: first interviewed with Mickey and Derek hired me with Mickey
Speaker 1: and Jerry Junior and U and I came back after
Speaker 1: college and was here for a few years, came back,
Speaker 1: um Nick hired me again with Derek. I'm just eternally
Speaker 1: grateful to them. So this is you know, this has
Speaker 1: been my life basically most of my adult life. But
Speaker 1: it's hard leaving you guys in the middle of the season.
Speaker 1: And I feel bad about that, I really do. But
Speaker 1: I feel good leaving because I think we have such
Speaker 1: a great team. I know we have such a great
Speaker 1: team and No See has has just shown up and
Speaker 1: killed it and is going to continue to kill it.
Speaker 1: And we have such a great new group of a
Speaker 1: group of new teammates coming in with people like Chris
Speaker 1: have been here forever. It's a great group and we
Speaker 1: do I hope you guys appreciate what everybody does here
Speaker 1: because in front of the camera, behind the scenes, it's
Speaker 1: a lot of work, and it's a lot of high
Speaker 1: quality work. I just want to personally thank you. Isn't sufficient.
Speaker 1: I wish they were more profound words that I could
Speaker 1: use to kind of evoke what I feel coming into
Speaker 1: the organization and the fashion in which it had to occur,
Speaker 1: training camp, hint, the ground running, and then you know
Speaker 1: the behind the scenes. You talk about behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: and there's a lot that goes on behind the scenes
Speaker 1: that fans just aren't privy too. And you know, for
Speaker 1: better or for worse, it doesn't matter. Behind the scenes
Speaker 1: happen so that when you see in front of the
Speaker 1: curtain can't continue to go on. But in order to
Speaker 1: hit the ground running, it took you know, Derek and
Speaker 1: Nick and most especially Rob just open arms, and Kyle
Speaker 1: and Isaiah and just you guys just completely embracing and saying, hey, okay,
Speaker 1: you know, not looking at me as hey here's the
Speaker 1: here's the new guy coming in. It was more so hey,
Speaker 1: what you need? What you need? What can you know
Speaker 1: we help out with? And I can't express how helpful
Speaker 1: that was, and transitioning me over to the organization UM
Speaker 1: and just from training camp forward, like the instant brotherhood
Speaker 1: it's not even a friendship, the instant brotherhood that you
Speaker 1: and I struck up and the talks that we've had
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, both you know, professional and personal family
Speaker 1: from father to father and husband to husband, and those
Speaker 1: kinds of conversations you will and I know everybody shares
Speaker 1: the sentiment, and I know they feel it more deeply
Speaker 1: than I do, because they've been you know, they've had
Speaker 1: the benefit of being blessed with your presence longer than
Speaker 1: I have. But I can't fathom how much they'll miss you,
Speaker 1: considering waning against how much I'll miss you having only
Speaker 1: been in your company for about three or four months.
Speaker 1: So you you are um a light. So don't feel
Speaker 1: badly about moving on to another success because you you'll
Speaker 1: you'll knock it out in the park as you always do. Well.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I love you guys, and I'm I'm
Speaker 1: y'all's big as fan like I can't wait to see
Speaker 1: what's next for you. No, see, you guys, you're not
Speaker 1: getting Network TV is coming and national rate. Whatever you
Speaker 1: guys want to do, you guys are gonna be able
Speaker 1: to do. And No Sea's gonna just keep growing too.
Speaker 1: And I can't wait to see what's next for all
Speaker 1: you guys anywhere anytime your inbox deal with Well, that's
Speaker 1: the thing too, is is we're your biggest fan here
Speaker 1: and and we've been a biggest fan of you through
Speaker 1: the through the struggles, through the ups, through the downs
Speaker 1: over these last couple of years. And we see how
Speaker 1: much your family means to you and and their time
Speaker 1: and their company means to you, and we are your
Speaker 1: biggest cheerleaders for you to take this step, um, and
Speaker 1: it is it's emotional for us. It's sad for us
Speaker 1: because we love having you in studio and we love
Speaker 1: having you as a part of the show. But man,
Speaker 1: the decision that you're making here is is a home run.
Speaker 1: Like like NOC just said, it's bottom of the ninth
Speaker 1: two outspace is loaded and clutch hit and you just
Speaker 1: put it over the put it in the upper deck.
Speaker 1: Uh And and that's gonna be so much fun for
Speaker 1: you and for the family. And I can't wait to
Speaker 1: see how how you guys continue to grow because like
Speaker 1: C said, you know you're not getting rid of us
Speaker 1: anytime soon. I want a wedding invite. You got one already.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's uh how about that has promised? Yea,
Speaker 1: this is a good This is good timing as that
Speaker 1: I don't know, never forget the tyger, won't never forget
Speaker 1: the I can't wait to see an Instagram story of
Speaker 1: robing Emmy, and it's just gonna be Rob on the
Speaker 1: couch with a tiger milk shirt on. Might be the
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, pleasure enjoyed, enjoyed every time you
Speaker 1: put that on. Its brotherhood, he's your soft brother, supple
Speaker 1: something nice. No, man, Robbie, you're you know you're gonna
Speaker 1: be nearly missed. Man we um We collab for the
Speaker 1: last few years. I was a newbie, just like just
Speaker 1: like you were. I was new to the whole industry
Speaker 1: though so obviously coming in being the being a young buck,
Speaker 1: not as young as Kyle was, but but Kyle had
Speaker 1: a lot of experienced um but no coming in and
Speaker 1: being able to have conversations and learn. I'm I'm one
Speaker 1: of those people who's kind of a sponge. I just
Speaker 1: sit back and kind of just absorbed information for end
Speaker 1: wisdom from those around me. So I necessarily haven't talked
Speaker 1: to you about a lot of the things that I've
Speaker 1: that I've witnessed, but I've I have taken on a
Speaker 1: lot of the professionalism that you've had, a lot of
Speaker 1: the things that you showed and exerted your your research,
Speaker 1: you're studying, your preparation, all those things or things that
Speaker 1: I sit back on and when I'm sitting on my
Speaker 1: computer doing my homework, I think about what Rob p
Speaker 1: Islan would do. So we talk about you a lot,
Speaker 1: even in the pregame shows when you're on the sideline reporting.
Speaker 1: So we talked about how we're gonna miss that, you know,
Speaker 1: Bury Church is in in here right now, big Nate.
Speaker 1: But we love, we love talking about Rob p over
Speaker 1: there on the sideline and be geared up. So no,
Speaker 1: you're definitely gonna be miss man. But you know, as
Speaker 1: a father, as somebody who as a fan, I get it.
Speaker 1: I totally get it, and I respected hard decisions have
Speaker 1: to be made all the time. And I know you're
Speaker 1: passionate about sports. I know that you're passionate about the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: You've dedicated a lot of your time, a lot of
Speaker 1: your life to it. You poured your heart into your
Speaker 1: your craft, and fans have benefited from it. So not
Speaker 1: only are we going to miss you, but I know
Speaker 1: the fans are gonna miss you and your insight in
Speaker 1: terms of them looking forward to seeing what you're putting
Speaker 1: out all the time. But you know we love you man.
Speaker 1: Anybody ever run up on you know, we got your
Speaker 1: back black jams for its so darn little mamma gotta
Speaker 1: she got uncles for life. So you're yep, you're good
Speaker 1: to go there too. Thank you, Thank you, Love you guys.
Speaker 1: With that, Let's talk lions, Yeah, let's do that. Don't worry,
Speaker 1: You're not need to hear the story about how interviewing
Speaker 1: with Mickey wins. Yeah, I need to know that story.
Speaker 1: The origin story is good. Everybody loves a good Yes.
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna take a question. We'll take our
Speaker 1: first break. When we come back, we are going to
Speaker 1: talk some football for a little bit, and then we'll
Speaker 1: get back to Rob Phillips to cap things off here
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Speaker 1: It's not Miller Litten Black Rifle. So that's a little
Speaker 1: bit better this day. I got to see a show
Speaker 1: last night. It was a lot of fun. When Saul
Speaker 1: Jake Scott is his name Downtown at the House of Blues.
Speaker 1: Oh really, it's really good. We actually what genre of music.
Speaker 1: He's like alternative pop. It's not like a he's like
Speaker 1: nice guy pop. It is the best way to do.
Speaker 1: You wonder what is the what's the distinguishing mark. I
Speaker 1: don't know what distinguished is between pop, R and B. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like like like what is the decighting factors and what
Speaker 1: determines pop is because it's popular culture, so yeah, it's
Speaker 1: the number of sales and how how it's charting. I mean,
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Speaker 1: Bieber does it all the time, Like he is adamant
Speaker 1: that he's an R and B guy, but he keeps
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Speaker 1: artists started. Jake's Jake Scott. He's like a smaller artist
Speaker 1: and he I've I've actually known him since he was
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Speaker 1: different group and we've just followed him and me and
Speaker 1: the fiance really liked him a lot, Like from a
Speaker 1: music standpoint, we actually saw him after the show is
Speaker 1: kind of oh yeah, we got to take a little
Speaker 1: selfie with him or for reference. I'm talking about just
Speaker 1: In not Shane. No, yeah, not based on Shane Bieber.
Speaker 1: Good good idea. All right, let's talk Cowboys defense versus
Speaker 1: the Lions offense. Lions come in with one of the
Speaker 1: better rated offenses statistically in the NFL. But Isaiah, I
Speaker 1: know you've already watched the tape. Oh yes I have.
Speaker 1: Are Are they a fraud? Is there offensive fraud? I
Speaker 1: wouldn't say did you could be a fraud in this
Speaker 1: league six games into it, you know, or five games
Speaker 1: for there? They as close to a fraud as you
Speaker 1: can be in this league. No, I think that you
Speaker 1: just can't overlook them, just like I'm gonna say every week.
Speaker 1: But I think these guys running the ball efficiently, I
Speaker 1: think they do that well. And I think that, you know,
Speaker 1: this is another one of those teams much like I
Speaker 1: don't say much like, but as dedicated to the run
Speaker 1: as Philadelphia was, I would say that this team will
Speaker 1: be as dedicated to running the ball. They have both
Speaker 1: of their guys to my knowledge it back in their
Speaker 1: backfield now and Jamal Williams and DeAndre Swift, So those
Speaker 1: guys are both threats, you know, you got a downhill guy,
Speaker 1: you gotta you got a speedy guy, so you got
Speaker 1: a nice two headed monster there. Now, if they're forced
Speaker 1: to throw the ball, then it's a totally different ball
Speaker 1: game because Jared Goff can't be trusted, so that's the
Speaker 1: reason why he's kind of been bounced around a little bit.
Speaker 1: But as as long as they're allowed to have a
Speaker 1: running game and allowed to lean on that to keep
Speaker 1: them in the game and maybe even keep them ahead
Speaker 1: of the game, then you have your hands full. Um.
Speaker 1: But you know, if you can force him to touch
Speaker 1: are putting that ball in the air, and then we
Speaker 1: all know what Jared gos cap both. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't think they're a fraud. Um. I like what
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell has been able to do up there. When
Speaker 1: it comes to that offense, Um, they're gonna try to
Speaker 1: tand them the Cowboys to death between Jamal Williams and
Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift, that's pretty much where they're gonna try. They're
Speaker 1: gonna try to zeke and poller them to death. Um.
Speaker 1: And you really want to keep an eye on DeAndre
Speaker 1: Swift because he's averaging almost ten yards of reception. He's
Speaker 1: and I know the guy quite well, uh because you
Speaker 1: know gold dogs, Oh yeah, yeah, but he's a true
Speaker 1: dual threat in that you know he can he could
Speaker 1: take it up to A or B gap, but he
Speaker 1: could you know, get those bubble screens as well. But
Speaker 1: the way the Lions utilize him is more so. Williams
Speaker 1: is going to be the hammer. Swift is going to
Speaker 1: be the lightning. So as long as the Cowboys can
Speaker 1: kind of contain that, and I believe they'll have a
Speaker 1: good chance of doing so, considering every week in practice,
Speaker 1: who do they go against. I just mentioned them, Ezekiel
Speaker 1: Elliot and Tony Pollard. They've seen this type of tandem
Speaker 1: every day in practice, So you know, leverage to the
Speaker 1: Cowboys in that in that fact, but um, they're gonna
Speaker 1: have to keep that run game slash bubble screen game contained.
Speaker 1: And if they can do that, here's where it becomes
Speaker 1: easier against a team like the Lions. It's because if
Speaker 1: you forced them to pass the ball unlike some of
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks like Joe Burrow, which the Couboys did a
Speaker 1: good job against, Tom Brady Matthew Stafford, but being able
Speaker 1: to do that against them tells me that you can
Speaker 1: most certainly do it against a guy like Jared Golf,
Speaker 1: because if you put the game on Jared Goff's shoulders
Speaker 1: and he has to throw it thirty five plus times,
Speaker 1: you basically won the game. Yeah, just looking at the
Speaker 1: stats with their rushing offense, they're averaging about one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty yards per game. That's good for eighth in
Speaker 1: the league. But that that's really impressive. When you think
Speaker 1: about Swift has been out and you mentioned the bubble screens.
Speaker 1: He is such a he's such a great athlete with
Speaker 1: the ball in his hands, He's a he has these
Speaker 1: violent cuts where he can just on a dime and
Speaker 1: get you out of your gap. And but Golf is
Speaker 1: interesting because I've always thought, going back to his Rams days,
Speaker 1: when he's got this is for most quarterbacks. When he's
Speaker 1: got time to set his feet, man, he can pick
Speaker 1: you apart. But they're gonna lean on the run. And
Speaker 1: based on what the Cowboys have shown, if there's a
Speaker 1: weakness in this Cowboys defense, and I think we still
Speaker 1: feel like this is a really, really good Cowboys defense
Speaker 1: that has a chance to be great. It's this run defense,
Speaker 1: and some of it is tactical because McCarthy said this
Speaker 1: a couple weeks ago, like, we don't. If I was
Speaker 1: attacking this Cowboys defense, I would run on them because
Speaker 1: I don't want to mess with their pass rush. So
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have to be ready for that. This is
Speaker 1: not the same type of Eagles offense. They're gonna face
Speaker 1: with the running game and the RPOs and all that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. But to Noci's point, they're gonna try
Speaker 1: to hammer hammer up front on the ground. Second in
Speaker 1: the NFL in yards per play on the ground, so
Speaker 1: yards per carry their second. So that's not just run
Speaker 1: the football, run the football, run the football. They're getting
Speaker 1: chunk yardage over five nearly five and a half yards
Speaker 1: per carry. The only team that has more yards per
Speaker 1: carry is Baltimore, and you know how Baltimore runs the football,
Speaker 1: So it's it's a little bit different. But then you
Speaker 1: turn around and you talk about the way they can
Speaker 1: throw it, because you do want to put Jared Goff
Speaker 1: in a position where he throws the football a ton,
Speaker 1: because he's gonna make mistakes, much like a lot of
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks in the league will if you're not at
Speaker 1: that elite level, and Jared Goff's not there. But there's
Speaker 1: still seventh in the in the NFL and passing yards
Speaker 1: per game, their ninth in the NFL in terms of
Speaker 1: yards per pass and completion. It's him, So I still
Speaker 1: look at it as a balanced attack, but with a run,
Speaker 1: heavy lean, right, because they can do a little bit
Speaker 1: of both. Yeah. I mean it's like it's like Tennessee
Speaker 1: from you know, a couple of years ago. You know,
Speaker 1: but they what they were. You know, they're gonna you know, there,
Speaker 1: Henry's getting the ball every freaking time. But Tanney Hill
Speaker 1: is gonna throw it around still, Yeah, you can still
Speaker 1: throw it. So no team's gonna come in here and
Speaker 1: just go straight wishbone on you. But these guys, you know,
Speaker 1: they want to hurt you. They want to physically impose
Speaker 1: their will. I mean that comes from their head. Coach, obviously,
Speaker 1: he's a mammoth human being, and he has that grit
Speaker 1: about him. Obviously, Dallas Fantasy just should know him very well.
Speaker 1: And this guy, you know, he's gonna be all jacked
Speaker 1: up on his black Rifle coffee. You know, I think
Speaker 1: he drinks about twelve coups a day somewhe around there.
Speaker 1: So I mean these guys, Yeah, the one thing that
Speaker 1: he wants to to walk away every game knowing is
Speaker 1: that you impose your will on that on the other team.
Speaker 1: He obviously hasn't won a lot of games to date,
Speaker 1: but I think every team that they face has said,
Speaker 1: this team is physical, this team plays hard. Right, you're
Speaker 1: gonna bit somebody's kneecaps. Yeah, they're gonna bite their knee
Speaker 1: caps off, like he says, So effort efforts never a question.
Speaker 1: And those are the teams that are really dangerous because
Speaker 1: you can't take any time off, and you can't allow
Speaker 1: for them to stay remotely close score wise because they
Speaker 1: will freak and do something with one of their explosive
Speaker 1: players or anything. Especially Swift. You just talked about his
Speaker 1: ability to put us put in the ground and give
Speaker 1: vertical if you let this game remain close. This is
Speaker 1: one of those teams that can that can definitely bite
Speaker 1: your knee caps off. So thirty five points, thirty five
Speaker 1: points and a three point loss against Philadelphia, twenty four
Speaker 1: points and a four point loss against Minnesota. Those are
Speaker 1: both teams with winning records and have had a lot
Speaker 1: of success In twenty twenty two. Their only win came
Speaker 1: against Washington and then they lost by three, but put
Speaker 1: up forty five on a not so good Seattle team.
Speaker 1: That Seattle defense is not very good. But then they
Speaker 1: go up against the Patriots. Yeah, then you go up
Speaker 1: against the Patriots and the Patriots have their number with
Speaker 1: Bailey's appia quarterback. I mean they turn around, they put
Speaker 1: up twenty nine on him and put up a big
Speaker 1: old goose x. So that was maybe Belichick. You know
Speaker 1: he's faced Golf in the Super Bowl before. Yeah, Belichick's
Speaker 1: great to putting a game plan again. But here's here's
Speaker 1: the beauty of it. And we say this and we
Speaker 1: all know it to be true. Just because you have
Speaker 1: a blueprint doesn't mean you have the tools to build
Speaker 1: what the previous person or team was able to build.
Speaker 1: But the Cowboys have the blueprint on how to shut
Speaker 1: down the Detroit Lions. They just got it from Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick a couple weeks ago, and they have the tools
Speaker 1: in personnel to you. You lost that blueprint. What is
Speaker 1: the blueprint? Shrink the game? Okay, right, you shrink the
Speaker 1: game and you forced Jarrett Golf to you down the field.
Speaker 1: And if you do that, then you're going to win
Speaker 1: the game. This Jared Goff only has eleven touchdowns over
Speaker 1: his first five games. That's averaging two point two if
Speaker 1: my math is correct, two point two per games. That's
Speaker 1: a very wonnable game if you can give him those
Speaker 1: two touchdowns. And if in fact Dak Prescott is back
Speaker 1: in the fold and we're not saying Dak Prescott is
Speaker 1: going to hit the ground run and being promped for him,
Speaker 1: But if Dak Prescott is back on Sunday, does give
Speaker 1: you better arm talent, So you still want to lean
Speaker 1: on your run game. But your offense with Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: should be able to score more than two touchdowns. We
Speaker 1: know week one, but we'll treat week one as an
Speaker 1: operation given the totality of his career, But assume that
Speaker 1: your offense can put up more than two touchdowns. Jared
Speaker 1: Goff is not going to light up the scoreboard. Jared
Speaker 1: Golf also has four interceptions to those eleven touchdowns. That's
Speaker 1: almost half. So half of the time that he throws touchdowns,
Speaker 1: he's thrown an interception. He's going to cough up the ball.
Speaker 1: We've seen over the course of his career. Kyle rob Isaiah,
Speaker 1: if you make him panic in the pocket, you know
Speaker 1: Burger king Hands is going to give you the ball.
Speaker 1: You do you guys feel confident loading the box and
Speaker 1: lending your DBS handle. There their their receivers. Yeah, I do,
Speaker 1: actually do you, Yes, I do. Same. Brown's a problem.
Speaker 1: Same Brown's a problem, and I think Hawkinson's a problem.
Speaker 1: They're both Kinson's good. But I mean we've talked about
Speaker 1: it in the past. J Ron Curse can eliminate tight ends,
Speaker 1: so we would. Yeah, there hasn't been a tight end.
Speaker 1: That's that's warn us out. And we've played against some
Speaker 1: really good tight ends togem and the tight ends have
Speaker 1: not had their same kind of success as they have
Speaker 1: in the past. Last year and even the year before that,
Speaker 1: tight ends, good tight ends had their way until really
Speaker 1: Jayron Curse midway through last year kind of took that
Speaker 1: off of note. I mean, think about the tight ends
Speaker 1: that Dallas's face this year, and they've pretty much been
Speaker 1: shut down. I mean, these are some of the better
Speaker 1: tight ends in the league. So I mean, kudos to
Speaker 1: kudos that see. But then you then you rank up
Speaker 1: a manra Saint Brown, who I really do like as
Speaker 1: a young wide receiving prospect. I think he's going to
Speaker 1: be really good by the time his career is over with.
Speaker 1: He's going to have a long career in the league.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have a solid, solid career. However,
Speaker 1: you don't put him next to the Mike Evans and
Speaker 1: the Jamar Chases and the AJ Browns that you've already
Speaker 1: faced this season. Even Terry mclauren, I wouldn't even put
Speaker 1: him on Rust Brown right there with Terry McLaurin. I
Speaker 1: still feel like this wide receiving unit as a whole
Speaker 1: is not as stout as what the Dallas Cowboys have
Speaker 1: faced at this point. Agree in whatever variation. If you're
Speaker 1: running man and you see a situation or mann or zone,
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. If you see Josh Reynolds up against Treyvon Diggs,
Speaker 1: I'm taking Diggs in that matchup. If you see Saint
Speaker 1: Brown up against Diggs, I'm taking Diggs in that matchup.
Speaker 1: If you see either one of those receivers up against
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown, I'm taking Anthony Brown in that matchup. And
Speaker 1: then it goes to the tight end Hawkinson. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: taking Curse in that matchup. So you're taking away the
Speaker 1: targets for Jared Golf And again, if you can successfully
Speaker 1: contain Swift on those bubble screens and eliminate him as
Speaker 1: a passing throughout of the backfield. Now it's truly a
Speaker 1: one dimensional game. And then if you and be it
Speaker 1: by defensive scoring and or offensive scoring and or a
Speaker 1: special team's touchdown, if you could then make the school
Speaker 1: board apply more pressure to Jared Golf and make him
Speaker 1: play hero ball, and there you go. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: playing right into your hands. If I don't disagree with you,
Speaker 1: I think the one thing that's that's being underestimated though,
Speaker 1: is these guys' ability to get the ball into Hockinson's hand,
Speaker 1: to get the ball into Saint Brown's hand, and then
Speaker 1: the actually have yards after the catch. These guys there
Speaker 1: the yak because these guys over at both of those
Speaker 1: both of those guys the tight end end the receiver.
Speaker 1: Over half of their yards that they've accumulated this year
Speaker 1: have come in the form of yak. Yeah. So these
Speaker 1: guys are okay taking the ball underneath the coverage and
Speaker 1: then making something happen with it. And that's the danger,
Speaker 1: even when you are able to stay in front of
Speaker 1: these guys is their ability to make big plays after
Speaker 1: they have the high precision catch and really quickly to
Speaker 1: that point, You're right, and yak is always going to
Speaker 1: be dangerous and you have to be concerned with it
Speaker 1: against the Cowboys defense because they like to bend, don't break. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but what's promising is Dallas Goddard, huge jet guy, had
Speaker 1: only twenty two total yards last week. So for sure, Yeah,
Speaker 1: gotta tackle better, right missmissing ten tackles against the Eagles.
Speaker 1: If you look at the Cowboys defensive stats, the one
Speaker 1: area where they're not in the top basically five or ten,
Speaker 1: it is tackling. And then you also look at the
Speaker 1: rush defense where they're nineteenth and I just one hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty point seven unique challenge last week against Philly.
Speaker 1: But like, how is it alarming this run defense right now?
Speaker 1: Or you? Or is it a product of how good
Speaker 1: they are in other aspects of their defense. I think
Speaker 1: it's alarming. Yeah, I think. I think for teams that
Speaker 1: are hell bent on running the ball, it's alarming because
Speaker 1: and you can say this about any team, any team
Speaker 1: that has the capabilities running the ball, you can easily
Speaker 1: forget about the receivers. Much like we talked about with Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: These guys are very much so in the same sense,
Speaker 1: you know, these guys are going to come in and
Speaker 1: run the ball. So I was like, okay, you load
Speaker 1: the box up. Okay, but if you load the box up,
Speaker 1: you better be pressed up on the outside and man
Speaker 1: to man, and these guys haven't. Dallas has not played
Speaker 1: very well in man to man covers this year. They
Speaker 1: just haven't. Even though they have the talent at the
Speaker 1: defense back position, they've given up a lot of plays
Speaker 1: when they're playing man coverage. And you can go back
Speaker 1: and watch the film, it doesn't necessarily feel that way
Speaker 1: until you start looking at it. You're like, dang, what covers?
Speaker 1: How do you catch that ball man? How do you
Speaker 1: catch that ball man? You know what I'm saying. We
Speaker 1: talked about the big player for Cooper Cup. He was
Speaker 1: held up most of the time and then what man? Right?
Speaker 1: So you know, so you think about some of those
Speaker 1: plays and you think about a team like Detroit that
Speaker 1: can You don't come off. They don't jump off the
Speaker 1: tape as you're giving them a bunch of respect, but
Speaker 1: when you look at what they've done, they put up
Speaker 1: way more points than Cowboys to put up this year.
Speaker 1: When you look at what they've done. Their yack yardage
Speaker 1: is right there. When you look at what they've done,
Speaker 1: They've ran the ball pretty dog on well. So you
Speaker 1: gotta put some respect on these guys. And you're better
Speaker 1: walk in there and be sure that you're tackling and
Speaker 1: if you deserve, if you decide to load the box up,
Speaker 1: you better be sure that you can get in these
Speaker 1: guys hit pocket and prevent them from kitting getting the
Speaker 1: ball in their hands. And I'll tweet this stat out.
Speaker 1: It's a chart from next Gen Stats, and I was
Speaker 1: just looking up Jared Goff and looking how he is
Speaker 1: down the field. It's actually not as bad as you
Speaker 1: think down field as a lot of other quarterbacks in
Speaker 1: the league. I mean, over ten yards, he is right
Speaker 1: at the league average. He's not anything worse, he's not
Speaker 1: anything better. He's not gonna light the world on fire.
Speaker 1: But he's not below average, like that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 1: And then right around ten yards from scrimmage, he is
Speaker 1: above average and and in he is one of the
Speaker 1: best in the NFL doing so. And then you look
Speaker 1: at his stat line, there's only been one game this
Speaker 1: season where he has not thrown over thirty five times,
Speaker 1: and that one game was the game that they won.
Speaker 1: So I'm right there with Patrick and saying get him
Speaker 1: the thirty five, make him throw the football a little bit.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be making a mistake. He's thrown four of
Speaker 1: his interceptions in four different games, so all four of
Speaker 1: his interceptions have come at different opportunities, and it's given
Speaker 1: the ball back to a defense that could definitely take
Speaker 1: it away. Rob Yeah, and he's and he's not the
Speaker 1: most mobile guy in the world either. That's why I say,
Speaker 1: going back to his Rams days when he had great protection,
Speaker 1: he's a very accurate guy. But I think you guys
Speaker 1: nailed it though, Like you get him having to shuffle
Speaker 1: around a little bit, and you can make things happen.
Speaker 1: That's where this is. There's an opportunity for for this
Speaker 1: cowboy's pass rush to get him off his game a
Speaker 1: little bit. I'm interested about this, Isaiah, because not only
Speaker 1: is Detroit coming off of a bye week, but they're
Speaker 1: coming off of a bye week after they got schmacked
Speaker 1: by the Patriot. I mean they got smoke a bakes yep.
Speaker 1: So usually if you get smacked in the NFL, you're like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, let's get right back into it. A week
Speaker 1: of preparation and then let's try and turn that thing around.
Speaker 1: Now you got to sit on it and chew on
Speaker 1: it for two weeks, Yeah, before you get right back
Speaker 1: at it. What kind of psychological effect does that have
Speaker 1: on a team and a player there their cows. They
Speaker 1: got an opportunity to chew on it, swallow it, and
Speaker 1: spit it back up and chew it again. How And
Speaker 1: that's almost more dangerous, Kyle. It was more dangerous because
Speaker 1: now you're giving a team two weeks to prepare for
Speaker 1: it was no different than like loading up for the
Speaker 1: first game of the season. You have. That's the most
Speaker 1: prepared you will ever be for an opponent. And for
Speaker 1: Dallas coming off of a loss, I don't think it
Speaker 1: helps them in that regard because obviously Detroit is back
Speaker 1: there doing all their studying the QC guys or their
Speaker 1: scouts and studying up all the things that the Dallas
Speaker 1: pass rush does and how they're creating pressure. How can
Speaker 1: they keep this pass rush off of Jared Goff? And
Speaker 1: then it's like, okay, crap, oh they lost to Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: Shoot what if Philadelphia do right? You know? So, so so
Speaker 1: now they're looking at Philadelphia film and trying to figure out. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's add this to the game plan. So this is
Speaker 1: the most prepared that Detroit will ever be for a game.
Speaker 1: Just see what happens now. And I think it's interesting
Speaker 1: because you talk about Jared Golf and we talk about
Speaker 1: Yak and all of this obviously plays into each other,
Speaker 1: but it circles back to tackling. The Cowboys have to
Speaker 1: make sure that they are disciplined in their tackling. They're
Speaker 1: not over aggressive. Just do your job, get the man down,
Speaker 1: eliminate as much yet as possible. Because Jared Golf, he
Speaker 1: only has with thirteen hundred and fifty five passing yards
Speaker 1: this season, literally forty nine let's round it up, fifty
Speaker 1: percent of those are attributable to Yak, Right, So six
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty eight yards of his passing yards this
Speaker 1: year have come from his receivers and his tight end
Speaker 1: getting the yards after the catch. So ghost to Kyle's point,
Speaker 1: Jared Golf is probably going to get you know, plenty
Speaker 1: of those checked down. Charlie's right, But if you stop
Speaker 1: the guy right there, you're you're gonna save yourself from
Speaker 1: keeping see the time of possession battle like you did
Speaker 1: in Philadelhia. Has Dallas shown that they can tackle them?
Speaker 1: I've seen, I've seen. That's the question. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I think our guys are flying around, but
Speaker 1: as of late, the last two games, they're diving with
Speaker 1: their eyes closing. As of late. You're both right, as
Speaker 1: of late, not so much. But it's also true that
Speaker 1: I want to say, at least two occasions, two different
Speaker 1: outings this season, I have seen them tackle exceedingly well.
Speaker 1: So I've seen that they have the ability to just
Speaker 1: kind of got away from it. And it could have
Speaker 1: been emotions. We talked about getting overhyped. Maybe they got
Speaker 1: overhyped for the ables and you know, you overpursue and
Speaker 1: you guess what mistackle. A couple of guys said that.
Speaker 1: Micah said it um trying to make the big splash
Speaker 1: play because you know, everybody wants to eat this is
Speaker 1: a great defense. You've talked about this. Everybody wants to
Speaker 1: get in on the action and it is. It was
Speaker 1: a huge game, and so just kind of settle into
Speaker 1: your assignments a little bit more because they've got the
Speaker 1: talent to do it. Obviously, all right, when we come
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Speaker 1: started as an intern back in oh three? Yeah? Did you?
Speaker 1: When did you start? How did you get here, and
Speaker 1: and why was Mickey the one that made the decision
Speaker 1: would give Mickey that power? So Mickey was Mickey was
Speaker 1: doing a lot of hits on local radio. So I just, uh,
Speaker 1: I think I just emailed him. The Twitter wasn't a thing. Um.
Speaker 1: Texting certainly wasn't a day o ye message. I just
Speaker 1: emailed him and said, you need an intern for the summer.
Speaker 1: So you want to work here? H you want to
Speaker 1: you want to be a Cowboys rider? Huh Um. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I met him, and I don't I don't remember anything
Speaker 1: about it other than I met Derek and Nick and
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Speaker 1: my first season here full time, they had Chris remembers this.
Speaker 1: They had it was a local Cowboys network before NFL network. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And they had me on like a little literally probably
Speaker 1: what my daughter does at school right now, a little
Speaker 1: daycare like style table in the corner where I would
Speaker 1: read emails like PTI like stat boy. Yeah, so I was.
Speaker 1: I was off at the kiddie table for a while there.
Speaker 1: I think Cowboys Daily or something like that. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was it was like it was it was it was
Speaker 1: talking cowboys, but it was a TV show. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was a TV show in the morning with Mickey and
Speaker 1: Bill Jones, and uh so I started there and Boys
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Speaker 1: something like that. So you were you've been on Talking
Speaker 1: Cowboys since the beginning. Yeah, three version. They didn't let
Speaker 1: me talk at first, but you were there. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I was there. So you were thinking cowboy I was thinking.
Speaker 1: I was thinking Cowboys. I was reading Cowboys emails and saying, hell, Grill,
Speaker 1: this is a good email. You might want to read this.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man, that's outstanding. So back almost twenty years,
Speaker 1: So twenty years of I mean, yeah, almost twenty years
Speaker 1: seventeen right, yeah, total, I think I don't know, yeah,
Speaker 1: whatever it would be, but of Talking Cowboys. And I
Speaker 1: mean you've been you left for a little bit and
Speaker 1: you came back, and how long has it been since
Speaker 1: you came back? Came back in fifteen? Okay, yeah, so
Speaker 1: it's eight years. I mean, that's flown by, flown by.
Speaker 1: And you asked me before the show my favorite memories,
Speaker 1: I would say one Jerry's Hall of Fame party. I
Speaker 1: felt like Owen Wilson crashing a wedding. I had no
Speaker 1: business being there, I think I was amazing, But so
Speaker 1: many things, so many projects. It's the mental health project
Speaker 1: that Isaiah helped us out on, uh meant a lot
Speaker 1: to me personally, the Deep Blue I just the relationships,
Speaker 1: the relationships because because Pat hit on it perfectly, like
Speaker 1: this is not a normal job. This is we spend
Speaker 1: way more time at times with with our our teammates,
Speaker 1: and we do our own families and so teamwork is.
Speaker 1: It sounds cheesy, but it's so important. And I would
Speaker 1: say I had a huge group at my wedding in
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. Um, Chris and I'm not gonna be Hellman.
Speaker 1: Hellman and June tried to thank everybody he's ever worked with,
Speaker 1: and he failed miserably because he left me out. And
Speaker 1: I'm like his brother. Ut, yeah, so I can't. I
Speaker 1: can't right now. I mentioned him just now, but everybody
Speaker 1: I mentioned Derek and Nick obviously, and Mickey and upstairs
Speaker 1: William and Amber and Kay and Nicky and Kurt. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna name everybody, but the team means so much
Speaker 1: to me. This this is home for me. It will
Speaker 1: always be home home to me. So when Hellman left
Speaker 1: back in the summer, I texted him and I was like,
Speaker 1: it's like having your your older brother leave for college.
Speaker 1: That's what it felt like for me because Helman was
Speaker 1: that older brother to me. Rob leaving it feels like
Speaker 1: my dad is why why my work? Dad is going
Speaker 1: walking out the door? Like how old? Does that make
Speaker 1: me feel? Right? But that's not I mean, I'm not
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna put him in a local rico category musself.
Speaker 1: But that's the type of role model you've been. That's
Speaker 1: not because of your age. It's because of the role
Speaker 1: model that you've been in the professionalism that you've had.
Speaker 1: I mean, I I've always looked up to you. When
Speaker 1: I got here and I was running the podcast in
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, I remember watching you come in here and
Speaker 1: deal with Mickey and brought us on a day to day.
Speaker 1: Taught me so much man and too yeah yeah, And
Speaker 1: I mean you can't forget about Nick Eatman either. I mean,
Speaker 1: Nick Eatman is a huge part of that. Itired me,
Speaker 1: tired me twice. But that's neis my guy. That's what's
Speaker 1: it's so tough about this one is it's Hellman leaving
Speaker 1: and then uh and then you leaving and now it's
Speaker 1: but that's part of the teamwork. That like we lived together,
Speaker 1: room together, and and Pat was there too, and Iris
Speaker 1: was there too. But we you know, I never made
Speaker 1: you turn out the lights like a dad like her
Speaker 1: few ups get but if anything, the TV was going
Speaker 1: to see lights out, lights out, Kyle. I never did that.
Speaker 1: But that's what we're talking about. That's why this is
Speaker 1: so important. Speaking of Nick eat Man, we've got our
Speaker 1: very own night Man with a nice presentation. Look at that, nas,
Speaker 1: Thank you man. Welcome to the show. Nick. What's up? Guys.
Speaker 1: I've never been on Talking Cowboys. Welcome Sarah. Ever, I
Speaker 1: don't think so Talking Cowboys break maybe yeah yet joint
Speaker 1: shows that we did. Addition, I've been hustling this morning man,
Speaker 1: getting some of the wet the Phillips on the back too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh my god, look at that. Yeah, look at that.
Speaker 1: Yeah that is special. Is wait it's got it on
Speaker 1: the back. Yeah, it's really this is this is John
Speaker 1: Phillips's helmet from two thousand and nine. Kidding because no,
Speaker 1: no it's not. That's great. Yeah, it's telling some stories here. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: what you got. Well, they're trying to trying to ask me,
Speaker 1: like what my first meeting with Mickey, because I interviewed
Speaker 1: with Mickey and then Derek and then Jerry Junior, and
Speaker 1: I don't remember anything of you with Jerry Junior. Yeah. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's awesome. So free, Well I've got you've got your story.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, but but yeah, I didn't know. I didn't
Speaker 1: know we were meeting with Junior. That's awesome. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know I have any I mean, I have
Speaker 1: great rob stories, but I don't know. I can't. It's
Speaker 1: one of those things where you don't know which one
Speaker 1: to bring out. Yeah, this is definitely now you've got some.
Speaker 1: He's got classic one liners that are just I mean,
Speaker 1: that's why. That's why, I mean, and Isaiah and Patt
Speaker 1: have hit it off. One reason. It's just because we
Speaker 1: can quote movie movies right, the same yeah, same movies.
Speaker 1: Kyle's getting there. He's just yeah, yeah, I've got a
Speaker 1: smaller window of opportunity. You need to hit those quotes.
Speaker 1: You've got to see major League or Whiting Crashers or
Speaker 1: old school you gotta have. You gotta have that. I've
Speaker 1: got all three of them. So that's good. Blue streak, Okay,
Speaker 1: I gotta get blue streak. I mean, I just gave
Speaker 1: Roba what was the days of thunder line of Thunder's
Speaker 1: great just because we were talking about what was we
Speaker 1: talk about Cooper Rush and Dak here and how they
Speaker 1: don't hate each other. You know, I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this isn't. This isn't. What's the guy's name that I
Speaker 1: had it? Um the guy that Russ Wheeler? This is
Speaker 1: that Russ Wheeler coming in take a spot, you know
Speaker 1: at the end. I mean they they they're friends, they're
Speaker 1: they're good. So yeah, for sure. So so how did
Speaker 1: he break the news? First show? First news and notes? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Rob just doesn't come out Rob. Well, yeah, we normally
Speaker 1: start the show with news and notes with Rob. So
Speaker 1: Rob always starts the show and we kind of run
Speaker 1: down what's going on with everything over the first ten
Speaker 1: minutes of the show and then we kind of take that,
Speaker 1: take that conversation into whatever it may lead to. So
Speaker 1: we just had him give the last news and note
Speaker 1: as the big one here I go. Then Kyle called
Speaker 1: him Dad, I did call I'm his work deadly. I
Speaker 1: never knew that. Nick's probably like wait, I'm making wait
Speaker 1: a second, Yeah, I think I was, Well, I know
Speaker 1: this this right here, this is set. This is set
Speaker 1: for Mickey right here, like like, listen, you hurt your
Speaker 1: back trying to do this the whole time. So man,
Speaker 1: I'll say, by when you've been compared to somebody's father,
Speaker 1: you know, not time is for you are a father,
Speaker 1: well I know, but not yours. No, you're not my dad.
Speaker 1: It's not what he was aiming. It's not what I
Speaker 1: was aiming for six years old, brot. I was trying
Speaker 1: to say, it's a role model. You don't let that
Speaker 1: line go away, like, don't don't let that just go
Speaker 1: through the crash. You're a father, yeah, I know, but
Speaker 1: not yours. But I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Let
Speaker 1: me let me say this. It's peppy and I've got
Speaker 1: Rob's the peppy. Y'all have fun on this show. No,
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of goods here. Of those
Speaker 1: more signatures to come. Not everybody got it. All the
Speaker 1: important people, though, have say sorry, I'm kidding no, but
Speaker 1: I'll say this though, I'll say that I said this
Speaker 1: to you before. I think it's been written on here
Speaker 1: a couple of times about being a teammate. You're not
Speaker 1: gonna find a better teammate, and you guys know it
Speaker 1: about being on the show. I've known it for so long.
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't call you a coworker, I'll
Speaker 1: call your friend. You've been outstanding to work with and
Speaker 1: it's just they don't make them like you anymore. I
Speaker 1: can promise you that. So it's gonna be tough. It's
Speaker 1: not gonna be impossible to replace you, but they do
Speaker 1: because the guys in this room right here are great teammates.
Speaker 1: We have a great group, like, we're good. You know.
Speaker 1: That's why I feel I told I told the guys
Speaker 1: on the top of the show, it's hard to leave
Speaker 1: right now, the middle of the season. It's not easy.
Speaker 1: But but we got such a great group. So everybody's
Speaker 1: gonna be fun. We're gonna do great. And I say
Speaker 1: weak because I still feel like I'm here as well
Speaker 1: you are, so you know ww r D. There you go.
Speaker 1: What would Rob do if they win Super Bowl? Do
Speaker 1: you get a ring? I'm gonna leave and they're gonna
Speaker 1: go on this huge, massive run, a badge nose pressed
Speaker 1: up against the goodness. Well hopefully that is the case.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, man, I mean I want you all this.
Speaker 1: Everybody wants man. Yeah, you guys work too hard. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hope it's a great run. Rob, It's it's been
Speaker 1: so much fun. Nick, thanks for coming in and presenting
Speaker 1: the helmet. We love the helmet. It's a sweet helmet.
Speaker 1: By the way, this is the one that they're gonna
Speaker 1: wear later in the year. It's not the throwback, but
Speaker 1: it's the white with the actual star helmet that I
Speaker 1: have at home. It's not white like that anymore. It's
Speaker 1: pretty much. I wanted the traditional one, but that's what
Speaker 1: they had. I think this one's cooler, so I like
Speaker 1: it a lot. I'm gonna have to go find it
Speaker 1: at the pro shop, but that's gonna do it. Here
Speaker 1: for us on Talking Cowboys, presented by Black Rifle Coffee Company,
Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow. We're gonna preview the Cowboys offense
Speaker 1: versus that Lions defense and give you a whole time
Speaker 1: one more time baby. For Chris Bean, for Nick Keatman,
Speaker 1: for Isaiah Stanback Patrick no C. Walker, I'm Kyle Yomans,
Speaker 1: and of course for Rob pe Island, I'm Kyle Yomens
Speaker 1: saying so long from Talking Cowboys, We'll see you tomorrow.
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