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Speaker 1: On the Bedel Cast, the questions asked if movies have

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Speaker 1: or do they have individualism the patriarchy zef invest start

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Speaker 1: changing it with the Bechdel Cast. Hi, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Bechtel Cast. My name is Caitlin Jamie, and we're

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Speaker 1: here to talk about, as we always are, the portrayal

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Speaker 1: of women in movies. It's fun. It's the theme of

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Speaker 1: the podcast. It's the theme of the podcast. You love it,

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Speaker 1: we love it, you love and we're doing and you're

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Speaker 1: welcome and you're welcome. We're feminist icons. Yeah like that.

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Speaker 1: That's I'm gonna say that. Yeah. We uh. We were

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Speaker 1: inspired by the Bechtel test, which requires that a movie

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Speaker 1: has two characters their ladies, they have names, they talk

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Speaker 1: to each other, and they're not talking about men. That's

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Speaker 1: the Bechdel test. It has its limits, patients. It's what

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Speaker 1: we use as a yard stick for a larger discord.

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Speaker 1: The Bactel test is like a yard hence yardstick. And

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Speaker 1: then the discussion of women in movies is a stile. No,

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Speaker 1: it's just like the that mile I'm getting really, maths

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Speaker 1: you can't do that. Yeah, you can't, because well, there's

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Speaker 1: metric and no yards. Metric meter is metric yard is

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Speaker 1: three ft. It's totally fine. We should listen to a math.

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Speaker 1: But there are about six in a mile. I know

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Speaker 1: this because oh I ran track in eighth grade. Uh

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Speaker 1: where he was like touching my arm. I was arrested

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Speaker 1: for perverted deeds with the swim team, not even his team. Jeez,

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Speaker 1: I know my high school soccer coach was arrested for

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Speaker 1: stealing a deer from another person's deer farm so that

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Speaker 1: he could have it for his own deer farm. Well,

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Speaker 1: your trial is really weird. Yeah. I grew up in

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Speaker 1: a really stupid place. Yeah I saw that. What was

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Speaker 1: the name of that street, Oh, dry Hollow Road. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: I took a picture of a road called dry Hollow Road,

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Speaker 1: and I said, so nice of them to name this

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Speaker 1: road after my vagina. Great tweet, thank you tweet. Well,

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Speaker 1: now we de briefed on our tweets. Yes, let's get

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Speaker 1: into the podcast stuff. We have a guest. I'm so excited.

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Speaker 1: She's my best friend in the whole world. She's a comedian,

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Speaker 1: she's a writer, She's been at the British Town Comedy Festival.

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Speaker 1: She lives in New York City where we're recording right now.

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Speaker 1: We should say, because this is one of two and

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Speaker 1: this is the first one that's going to come out. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we're recording with life and we're having the best time

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Speaker 1: we're having. I'm like, it's Julia Claire. She's here, Julia,

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Speaker 1: so that to be here, Thank you for coming, Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much. Like April, it feels like longer. I

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Speaker 1: can't believe we're in this. This always happens anytime we're

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Speaker 1: distance romance, Jamie and I we talk every single day.

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Speaker 1: We talked all day every day, pretty much more, and

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Speaker 1: I think at this point more of a friend of

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Speaker 1: has been long distance than not, which is yes, wild,

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Speaker 1: which is so weird because our friendships started when we

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Speaker 1: You came to my apartment and brought me gatorade. At

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Speaker 1: that time, my face got all puffy. Your face was

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Speaker 1: so big, it was really big. Fish Jamie and Julia

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Speaker 1: came from a softball game, and that's true Boston comedy

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Speaker 1: so perfect. Yeah you were. Yeah, did we play at

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Speaker 1: Boston like three weeks after I started doing comedy, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I came to I came to your going away thing.

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Speaker 1: been trying. You're getting better and doing a better job. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but bringing it back softball, yes, and baseball and the

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Speaker 1: movie we're talking about today, A League of their Own

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Speaker 1: up their own. That's my proposal. Give me a soccer movie.

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Speaker 1: Space jams for women, Space jam. Why is Lola Bunny?

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Speaker 1: his bags. Well. I have long said that men's basketball

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Speaker 1: You're welcome everyone about space jams somehow. Oh but all

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Speaker 1: the entire world. In spite of that, this is a

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Speaker 1: take this OPPORTU you need to do. Areca, A league

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Speaker 1: including Bill Paulman. Yes, and apparently a bunch of major

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Speaker 1: league baseball players. So this guy Harvey of Harvey Bars,

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Speaker 1: But John Lovett's he's scouting for talented baseball who are

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Speaker 1: He's gonna give his wife a tickle pickle, he says,

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Speaker 1: you be tickling with your pickle? But you guys know

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Speaker 1: Scouting for different women, he goes and scouts Dottie and

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Speaker 1: like a local league and he's like, you guys are

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Speaker 1: He says, Gina Davis ship right she is, and god,

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Speaker 1: It's like are you thirty? Like like she's I'm always

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Speaker 1: Other team members. Notable ones are Mage, Madonna Wait Madonna's

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Speaker 1: on Madonna's character. So she's like the team. Yeah, like

420
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 1: she gets slushamed, oh quite a major Yeah. Yeah, because

421
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 1: her nickname is all the Way May, which is like

422
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: a double on tundra. Also a great nickname that does

423
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: a great nickname, especially um. And then there's the part

424
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 1: where she's like, they're like trying to draw more of

425
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: a crowd, and she's like, well, what if, like during

426
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: a game, my uniform pops up into my bosoms fallout,

427
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: And then Rosie O'donnald's character is like, do you think

428
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: there's a man in this country who hasn't seen your bosoms?

429
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: It's like, but she's never like I don't know, She's

430
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: it's always yeah, it's yeah, it's playful. It's not like, oh,

431
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: you stupid idiot for being a slit. Yeah. She she

432
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 1: presented it as a joke. It was received as a joke.

433
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: She teaches the girl carried to read us erotic erotic

434
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: novels to work. It gets really good after this. It's

435
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: a fund it's a fun movie. It's fun, but baseball sucks.

436
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 1: That's this is where where you and I because you

437
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 1: guys are both played. I'm I don't know. I was.

438
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: I was a ballet gal. I know, but now you okay,

439
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: well now you can dance, like in a pinch, you

440
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: can dance. And I if it's an emergency, right, if

441
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 1: someone's in trouble, I could to get out of an

442
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: escape room, you can dance people. Yeah, that's why people

443
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 1: bring me. I envy that because I have nothing from

444
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: softball really besides me Like, well you could still, I

445
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: mean you were playing this recently. Yeah no, but there

446
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: are no like residual skills life. I disagree it. If

447
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: an intruder comes into your house, you can take a

448
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: bat and beat the ship out of there, but takes

449
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 1: a lot less skilled than years of softball. That would

450
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: be like, thank god, I was like, or I would

451
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: be dead right now. Speaking of escape rooms, there's a

452
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: thing to be said for men in escape rooms. Just

453
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: like I'm in charge, I know what I'm doing. I

454
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: need to have like I need to take control of

455
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 1: the situation. Men in escape rooms very much the same. Yeah, god,

456
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: escape rooms are you can't go with a man, you cannot.

457
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 1: They need to be like keeping keep trying to go

458
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: to go to an escape room with a man and

459
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: it just doesn't work. You can't. They're like, look behind

460
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: the frame, there's a safe over here. Escape rooms are

461
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: virtual terrible, but it is fun to I just want

462
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: to put like a bunch of aggressive men in an

463
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: escape room and to them trying to outfit each other.

464
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: From finding NEMO and they would not get out, they

465
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: would die. Oh there's a scene where like it reveals

466
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: their uniform. Uh, we touched on this where it's like

467
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: the short dresses that are not at all practical for

468
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: playing any sport, and the women like push back. You see,

469
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: like a lot of things are challenged. Also, a lot

470
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: of things go unchallenged. But one of the things that

471
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: they do challenge is the uniform, just like right at first,

472
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: whenever they see and they're like, we can't what are

473
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: you supposed to slide this? Like that's address, that's half address.

474
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: What are we baseball players or ballerinas? So they're they're

475
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: challenging it, but they still end up wearing them. So

476
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: it's like they do right, yeah, but you know, just

477
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: challenged it. Yeah, because I mean, I guess we we

478
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: don't really know what happened, but hopefully what have happened,

479
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: because there could not be a less practical It's just

480
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: another example of a double standard where the men were like, oh,

481
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: here's a practical thing to play and sliding in that

482
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: truly must have been such a bit because like even

483
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: sliding when you like when I played I played softball

484
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: for a long time, as I said, and uh, you'd

485
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: wear like sliding shorts which were padded shorts underneath your

486
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: uniform shorts because sliding hurts so much, and even with

487
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: those you would get caught up a little bit. So

488
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: I can only met these these women must have just

489
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: been like bleeding all the time. Jesus, let's talk about

490
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: let's talk about some some individual characters. Sure, well, Dottie.

491
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: What do we think of Dottie? I like Dottie. I

492
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: mean we see, like right away how great of a

493
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: player she is. She advocates for her sister, so she's

494
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: lifting other women up but then ragging her back down

495
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: a bit. Yeah, but team to me, I at treated

496
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: that more to like a sibling rivalry than like, uh,

497
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: I'm competing with you because you're another woman kind of thing.

498
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: But it's it's hard to say, like it could be

499
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of both. I don't know. She's

500
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: the rock of the store like everything. Well, first of all,

501
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: she's based on the real Dottie Collins, who was up

502
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: a player for the Rockford Peaches, who played in the

503
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: league for six years and pitched like seventeen shutouts. Like, oh,

504
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: she was a picture, not a catcher. Yeah, she was

505
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: a pitcher. Yeah, so she was this incredible player. But yeah,

506
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: Dottie the character actually I don't know if this is

507
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: like crossing movies too much, but like reminds me of

508
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: Julia Stiles is character in Mona Lisa Smile because she

509
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: has a lot of aptitude and she has a lot

510
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: of potential to do other stuff. Like clearly Dottie is

511
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: like very smart. She does math in her head. Uh

512
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: like the other girls. I like the other girls. She's

513
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: a great baseball player. She could do more with her life,

514
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: and like other people tell her that she could do more,

515
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: and she's like, actually, I'm I choose to go back

516
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: to my family, which is what Julia Styles character does.

517
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: I haven't seen that movie in a long time. It's

518
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: the sweaters are incredible in that movie. It's a great

519
00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: sweater never seen it. It's fun for the sweaters. You

520
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: can watch on mute, just a lot of it, mute, Donnie.

521
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: I mean, she's great, obviously, I don't dislike her, but

522
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: there's she's not the best. She's not the most interesting character, right, Like,

523
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: she's not really flawed in any interesting She's like the

524
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: control group of Yeah, the characters I think which which

525
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: might even be and I genuinely avoid sports movies that

526
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: might even be a sports movie trope of like the

527
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: Leader is like that, but I would have been interested

528
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: to see a more flawed character or so, you know,

529
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: like she doesn't really funk up ever, except like she

530
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: fights with her sisters sometimes. But I think that that's

531
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: why I gravitate towards Kit, because she sucks up constantly,

532
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: but also it's very dynamic, and like it's always I

533
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: don't know, well that a dynamic because like, um, there's

534
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: a game where kids like not pitching very well. Gina

535
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: Davis is like, yeah, we should take her out of

536
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: the game, although at first she's like, no, she's doing fine,

537
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: And then Jimmy Dugan is like, really, is what are

538
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: you thinking? Like he like swallowed a bucket of flegm

539
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: before delivering each line. Too much, it's too much dial

540
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: it back. Yeah, So then Dottie's like, you know what,

541
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: Actually she's pitching grapefruits or something like that, and Kid

542
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: gets mad. I feel like their argument, their conflict is

543
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: Kit sort of just being immature and like not willing

544
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: to acknowledge that like maybe she shouldn't keep playing when

545
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: she's like, well, that's like her, but she's wrong, Like

546
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: that's the thing. It's like she's Gina Davis is right

547
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: and she's never wrong, and I think that's like kind

548
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: of what like I almost felt like a little I'm like,

549
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: we get it. Years I was, yeah, well, the character

550
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: to me was the most notable character arc is Jimmy Dougan.

551
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: Like everyone this is just sort of like, yeah, we

552
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: have a little thing and then but like everyone pretty

553
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: much stays the same and it's generally pretty static, but

554
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: then he kind of does do it one eight. Yeah. Yeah.

555
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: I also I just think it's so weird how there's

556
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: like a sexual tension between Dottie and Jimmy Dugan. Yeah,

557
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: that does not check out for me, But I mean

558
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: nor does Gina Davis and Bill Pullman with a lamp.

559
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: But Bob, he's like, oh and then he I wrote

560
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: this time he's like he says, you're the most beautiful

561
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: thing I've ever seen. I was like, he objectifyed Gina Davis.

562
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 1: How could you? How could you? And she says she

563
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: doesn't care. She's Bob's thing. Oh to be. I mean,

564
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: the point I'm trying to make is it's you know,

565
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: not the best thing ever that the character with the

566
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: most notable character arc is the moment right, I mean,

567
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 1: playing Devil's advocate. I could see the argument that it's

568
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,280
Speaker 1: not the women in the movie who have to change.

569
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: They're trying to exist in a space as themselves and

570
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: that's their real challenge. Where it's like the attitudes of

571
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 1: the men in the league that need to change from

572
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: the moment one. It's like the only person in this

573
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: in this movie who actually is so flawed that he

574
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: needs to change is Jimmy Dugan, Right, So like none

575
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: of the basically, I think that's saying like, like all

576
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: the women are fine and Jimmy Dugan is a fucking mess,

577
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: which which is which is pretty much true. It's true,

578
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: But there still could have been, Like it hasn't more

579
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: dedication to like Dottie's character, she could have still had

580
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,959
Speaker 1: an arc in some way. It doesn't mean she needed

581
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: to start out shitty and end up being like, oh

582
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: I'm trying, I'm a better person now, like she still

583
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: could have been. I totally agree. I mean, there's I

584
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: think that really the only like I mean, there's like

585
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 1: little stuff like there's a girl that learned how to read.

586
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 1: There's like all that, you know, there's like little stuff.

587
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: But the arc of the female character I liked was

588
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: Kit because she don't like that. In that end scene

589
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: with Dottie and Kit, Kid basically realizes that she wasn't

590
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: like battling her sister, she was battling being insecure and

591
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: then was I'm like almost crying. It's a beautiful scene.

592
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: And then she she you know, she's just like, oh,

593
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: you should stay, and Jina Davis is like, no, I

594
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: had to go get pregnant from Bill Pullman, which what

595
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: a crazy plan for your night. But and and you

596
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 1: see like the sister relationship at the end where Dottie's

597
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: that was one moment where I was like, yeah, Doddie's

598
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,479
Speaker 1: cool because more I'm like Diddy's boring. But when she's

599
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: like happy for Kit when Kit wins because Kit, and

600
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: then she says you wanted it more, which she did. Yeah,

601
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: because like Dottie was never she didn't have her heart

602
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: into which is another weird thing about this movie. The

603
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: protagonist is not into baseball really, and she's like, okay,

604
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 1: this is what I think. Okay again, I'm going to

605
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: draw the parallel to Julius Styles's character and Lisa smile.

606
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: I think she is really into it, but it's like

607
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 1: the culture of the times dictated her life so much

608
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: because she was clearly into it enough that she played

609
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 1: enough that she was great at it, and she played

610
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: in a farm league and learned the game inside it out,

611
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: but felt her sense of duty to like whatever the

612
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: cultural bullshit was at the time was just like overpowered that. Yeah. Yeah,

613
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: I mean in that same scene where Gene Davis is like,

614
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: I gotta go have babies, and Tank girls like you

615
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: can have babies next year, and she's like, no, I

616
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: gonna have babies today. Sorry, I'm pretty sure that's exactly

617
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: what happens. Yeah, Bell Pollen has got a heart on it.

618
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: He's got a limp. I've got to be accommodating. He's

619
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: got a limp. The clock is ticking, my bob. Another

620
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: interesting thing that happens in the movie is I think

621
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 1: it's during the first game Dottie hits a home run.

622
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: The announcer attributes the great thing that she did to

623
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: Jimmy Dougan, being like, oh, he knew what to he

624
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: told her the right thing to do, and like, so

625
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: credit going to the wrong person, which happens a lot.

626
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: And it's an example of just the assumption that if

627
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: a woman does something good, it's because a man taught

628
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: her how to do it or is somehow behind it,

629
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 1: and it's dumb. Let's not do that anymore society. Tom

630
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 1: Hankson's movie is just I mean again, just a bit.

631
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: And then there he has I read this down his

632
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: line at the end where he basically delivers the moral

633
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: of the movie where I was just like, oh, come on,

634
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: Like when he's trying to convince Dottie to stay, it's

635
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: like baseball lights you up. It's what's inside you. And

636
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: then she says it just got too hard, which I

637
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: think is the better this movie, and a nudgell But

638
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 1: then he says, it's supposed to be hard. If it

639
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard is what

640
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: makes it great, and it's just like, shut up. Like

641
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: Tom hanks getting to be the moral compass of this

642
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: movie is of course, because he would not agree to

643
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: do a movie in which he was not the moral company.

644
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: I think he might be a sociopath, but but likes

645
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: the most famous line of the movie, which is one

646
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: of the most famous lines in modern cinema. I want

647
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 1: to tell he says five times, they don't cry to baseball,

648
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: You just keep shut up. So the implication there with

649
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: that line is that there's no crying in baseball because

650
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: when it is a girl thing and baseball is a

651
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: boy thing, the two can't intersect. The thing is, whenever

652
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 1: men and boys are taught to not bet, you can't

653
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: be vulnerable, you can't be emotional because you're a pussy

654
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 1: if you are. Uh, the patriarchy is damaging to women

655
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: and men. Well, men, it's okay to cry. Cry your

656
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: little heart out. There is crying in baseball. Yeah. In fact,

657
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: the only time I consistently see men cry is during

658
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,720
Speaker 1: sporting Yes. Yeah, so there is a lot of fucking

659
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: crying in baseball. And have you seen the Little League

660
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: World Series anyone? No? Wait, oh, are there a lot

661
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 1: of crying? Daddy's there? Well, no, there's the kids are

662
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: mess Oh. I mean, well that's the best obviously. Yeah.

663
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 1: I get used to it. Bit life's hard. Oh. Another

664
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: fun thing that Jimmy Dugan says, I haven't got ball players.

665
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: I've got girls. Girls I want to sleep with after

666
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 1: the game, not coach during the game. Hilarious, hilarious, good job.

667
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: When he does that, he doesn't. He does a bunch

668
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: of and I know it's supposed to be like he

669
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 1: sucks now, but wait until the end when he says,

670
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 1: you know, at the beginning he's like broad suck. At

671
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 1: the end he's like, broads are good. He's like, you

672
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 1: are a ball player. Drilogy, and that's what we call

673
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 1: a character arc. You get boiled down to that. And

674
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: then he has that prayer scene to where he's like, Jesus,

675
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: remember that waitress I fucked or like whatever, and he's like,

676
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 1: you know, because she was a screw reaming your name,

677
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 1: which is Tom Hanks being like declaring he has that

678
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,760
Speaker 1: good d which is like he's got a great pickle

679
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: to tickle women with. No way, Tom Tom Hanks for

680
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: sure has a flesh love where no way, he's fully dickless.

681
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: He is. Yeah, he's a smooth boy, and not to

682
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: hate on it. I love a smooth boy. I love

683
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: a guy with oh man, oh, Jimmy Dugan surprised kisses

684
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: a woman whenever he's on the bus. He's on the

685
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: bus and she drunk. She's the one. She's like like

686
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: the chaperone chaperone who's been appointed look after and he's

687
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: like waking around because the bus drive or just quit

688
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: and then surprise. Every single movie has a surprise kiss.

689
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: It's so annoying. But he is like waking up from

690
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: a drunken stupor and he just grabs her and kisses her,

691
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: and she's like and then when he realizes what he does,

692
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: because she's another, you know, not classically beautiful woman by

693
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 1: Western standards, and he's like, oh, oh my god, I'm

694
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: so gross, and he like chugs some whiskey and then

695
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: spits it out over the bus floor and then he

696
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: slaps her ass later in the movie, but show that

697
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: he's changed as a character, and he's like, no, I

698
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: would touch you before I sectually sell accident, but now

699
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: I'm sexually saulting you on because I mean, we've already

700
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: talked at length about how it's not okay to surprise

701
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: kiss the person. I just wanted to make note that

702
00:42:51,520 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 1: that does in this movie. She's Louise. Yeah, well this

703
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: is Rachel Whites. He's like a caged animal and lunges

704
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: at her. It's startling, looks so crazy. Now, we were

705
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: just talking about how we think he might be covered

706
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: in scats. Oh god, we don't know. Oh jeez, what

707
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: was gonna saying? Well, I thought about it, and he

708
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: couldn't play Tom Hanks's part. He's too good of an actor.

709
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 1: I would say, swap out Mollina and love it. If

710
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: anything but I want, I would give it to Uh.

711
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: He's the one who at first he's like, you guys

712
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: don't want to play in these dresses when you could

713
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 1: it off. And then later he's like, man, people love

714
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 1: you girls playing baseball and take over the league. He's

715
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: a great he's a master of his craft. He could

716
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: sell that. Or if we're going in full beefcake, swap

717
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 1: out Pullman and Molina and then we have very different

718
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: I want to see Gina that Davis make out with Alford. Yes,

719
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: I think that that. It's like, that's a better math

720
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: than that's such a better match than Gina Davis, Bill

721
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: Pullman a loveless marriage. At the end where she's like

722
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: I don't need baseball. I have Bob, It's like, what

723
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: are you talking about? Like I can't wait to quick

724
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 1: comedy and just like I have Bob, I met someone

725
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: named Bob and I don't need to do this thing

726
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: any I have him now, I'm I'm actively looking for

727
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: a reason to stop. For Molina is a national treasure

728
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: and the first Broadway show I ever saw was Fiddler

729
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: on the Roof shut Alfred Molina as incredible. I had

730
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: no idea just he must have been the I mean,

731
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: I've seen he's the perfect. He's the perfect. Deputy's the perfect.

732
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: I don't know who I think I'm kidding. Of course,

733
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,720
Speaker 1: everything knows videos. He's such a he can do anything,

734
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: he can do anything, he can do anything. Um when

735
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: one last thing I want to say, Sorry to interrupt

736
00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: your Alfred Molina discussion. There's a short scene sandwiched in

737
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: the middle of a montage later in the movie where

738
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: a ball lands and it's near a black woman's foot

739
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: and she picks it up and dotties like, throw it here,

740
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: and she's nearby, and she's like, I'm going to actually

741
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: throw it even farther because I'm good at baseball too.

742
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: That says in a real person, right, is it? Oh?

743
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: I'm not sure? And they're like, wow, she was good

744
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: at throwing. The woman just sort of like gives them

745
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: a little like nod. I mean, the implication is that

746
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: she isn't allowed to play. She's not allowed to play.

747
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 1: I looked up the color line. The color line in

748
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: American baseball excluded, Yeah, excluded players of black African descent

749
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 1: from Major League Baseball and its affiliated minor leagues until seven.

750
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: So yeah, the implication is that she wouldn't have been

751
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: allowed to play. The movie only spends like twenty seconds

752
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: or less addressing like, oh, black people couldn't play baseball

753
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,439
Speaker 1: yet because it's a very white movie, understandably so because

754
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: of the air. But I was like, it would have

755
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: been nice for the movie to maybe address it a

756
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 1: little more, like if there was like a black player,

757
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: like maybe trying to try out and they're like, no,

758
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: we're a bunch of shitty racists, so you can or something.

759
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just it felt weird that like,

760
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 1: if you blank, you would miss that scene. Yeah, So

761
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: I just wish it would have been addressed a little

762
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: more thoroughly. I think, well, I think I actually I

763
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: like the way that they I think it, you know,

764
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: absolutely too short. The scene is definitely short, But I

765
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: think that if they had really over explained it, it

766
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: would have come off as almost like like I think

767
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: I think it's just like giving the audience enough credit

768
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: to be like, oh, it's obvious that she's not allowed

769
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: to play, and then her coming into the scene makes

770
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 1: you realize, oh, everyone on these teams is white, right right?

771
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: I mean, which I guess you know you might not

772
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: have noticed already. Yeah, there's a famous black female picture

773
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: that I read about the named Mamie Johnson. Who. I

774
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 1: think that that character is supposed to some sort of

775
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: nod to or she was like a famous pitcher who

776
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: ended up pitching in men's leagues for several years in

777
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: the nineteen fifties. So interesting. Another bit of trivia. The

778
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: woman who played kit Lorie Patty, was when she was

779
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,959
Speaker 1: growing up, she played she was the only girl on

780
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: a boys baseball team, so she like she she didn't

781
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: need to she already had this and during so during filming,

782
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: she pitched more than most Major League baseball pitchers do

783
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: in an entire season. That's amazing, tank Girl? Why do

784
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: you keep calling? What is that? I don't know the

785
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: reference either? She plays tank girl? What does tank Girl?

786
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: It's like a really weird superhero movie. It was like

787
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: a notorious flop. Okay, yeah, oh, I think I've seen

788
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: the character of kit Is. For most of the movie

789
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: before her arc she is just like a almost like

790
00:47:55,400 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: a Charlie Brown Peanuts character. She's just like humph, it's

791
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: so I mean, like she's a grown she's a grown woman.

792
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: But even when she's like melcol at Cow and she's

793
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: like why can't I play, It's like what are you?

794
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: She She like acts like a little boy, but I

795
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: love it. Yeah, she's like a little rascal. The final

796
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: little thing I wanted to say was because this movie

797
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 1: takes place in the forties, but it came out in summer.

798
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: It came out in July nine two, just Shy of

799
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: Yours Truly's premiere Onto This Earth. I mean, it was

800
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: a very successful movie. It did very well, and I

801
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: just was thinking about, like what the climate was when

802
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: this movie came out, and like how that would inform

803
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: how I did. But this is like when Hillary Clinton's

804
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: like heavily on the campaign trail like this the summer

805
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: this movie comes out, she's like sort of whatever, making

806
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: her debut of sorts, um builds an office, She's on

807
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: the campaign because this came out before the election. Yeah,

808
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: she was. She was definitely the most vocal first lady

809
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,439
Speaker 1: and she was until that point she had the most

810
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: like policy, say, probably of any first lady for sure,

811
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: for sure, So I don't know, it's like, what was

812
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: it like for women in great Yeah, I guess she

813
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: got a lot of ship for saying when a reporter

814
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: asked why she was like focusing so much on policy,

815
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: where she was like, I'm not just going to stay

816
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 1: home and bake cookies. And she got so much shit

817
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: about that as recently as today on Twitter right now.

818
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 1: Any other final thoughts that anyone has about the movie?

819
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: Of course, this movie passes the Bechdel tests like a

820
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: thousand times. We didn't talk about Rosie at all at all,

821
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: and I know that we can't really know, but I

822
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: just want to say my final my my parting thought

823
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 1: about this movie is that the story of every movie

824
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: ever is that Tom Hanks gained thirty pounds for this

825
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 1: movie and was encouraged to eat as much as possible.

826
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: And it said Rosie O'Donnell was told to eat as

827
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: little as which is the story of every movie every

828
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: damn it uh. Female director Penny Marshall, written by so

829
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:17,280
Speaker 1: the story credit story right well, Kim Wilson and Kelly

830
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: Kelly is a man by the way, I thought Kelly was.

831
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 1: I didn't. I just assumed how gender normantive. I need

832
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: to assume that Kelly is a woman. Well that we

833
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: have at least one and his mother played in in

834
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: the League. Cool, but yeah, all the most of the

835
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: writing credits are it's Lowell and then there's a Kim.

836
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: I'm guessing Kim is a woman. But maybe I think

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Speaker 1: Kim is a woman. I'm saying the screenplay was written

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Speaker 1: by Lowell, Gans and Bubble, and but then there's like

839
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 1: a story by credit from Kelly and Kim. I almost

840
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,720
Speaker 1: panicked because I thought I had somehow made up Bubble

841
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: know you, it was on point. I was about to

842
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: be like, where could that have possibly come from? Shout

843
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: out to Babbalu still alive. But yeah, the movie passes

844
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 1: the back to test a bunch of times, pretty much.

845
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: I'd say in most scenes, they're only a handful of

846
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 1: scenes where like two dudes are talking and there aren't

847
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: any women, and those are the worst scenes, boring and

848
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: usually they're talking about how women suck. But yeah, a

849
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: ton of scenes past the backtel tests. So yeah, no

850
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: surprise there. Let's write the movie on our nipple scale

851
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 1: zero to five nipples. Based on its portrayal of women,

852
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it. I think like a four or

853
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: four and a half. It's it's going to rate pretty

854
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: highly for me. It's annoying that the main character arc

855
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: goes to a man and like I didn't even mention that.

856
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: Like John Lavitce is like, we'll pay you seventy five

857
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: dollars a week, whereas the top paid men baseball players

858
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 1: of that era we're earning up to like fifty grand

859
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: a year or more, which is, hey, guess what more

860
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: than seventy five dollars a week. I did that math

861
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: in my head. Wow, not like the other girl. Yeah,

862
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: just so you know, sheds light on a bunch of

863
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 1: different double standards that women face. So um yeah, it's

864
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: just a cool movie. It's cool to see a sports

865
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 1: movie about women. You almost never do. It's never cool

866
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 1: to see a sports movie. But fuck you mighty ducks. Yeah,

867
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: but we're taking the ducks to tax today on the facts. Okay,

868
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: I'll never be able to run for office because I said,

869
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: fuck the We're sticking it to the ducks. Yes, okay,

870
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 1: So yeah, cool to watch a bunch of kickass ladies

871
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: who are good at playing baseball be good at baseball,

872
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: and it's a fun movie. So yeah, I'm gonna go

873
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: with a four. I'm gonna give John Lovett too nipples

874
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 1: and they do look like small kosher deal pickles, and yeah,

875
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: just like rubbing his chest on his wife. The other

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00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: two i'll give to Marla. I'll give it a four

877
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: as well. Agree with what you're saying. I wish that

878
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 1: we saw more flaws, and I like it really did

879
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: bug me seeing like Dottie. I mean, you could have

880
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: very easily given her one of Tom Hanks's problems. You know,

881
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be out of the question for a woman

882
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: to have a drinking problem, speaking as one who's actively

883
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: developing one. But like, I mean, she was up against

884
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 1: a lot but didn't have any Achilles heel, and that

885
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:40,280
Speaker 1: was annoying and Tom Hanks is annoying and baseball's boring.

886
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 1: Four nipples. I'll give two of the nipples to Oh,

887
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give all four nipples to the cow. Oh yeah,

888
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 1: we see cow literal cot utter nipples. Yeah, yeah, there

889
00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: are exposed nips. Yeah. Well, because this movie was integral

890
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,959
Speaker 1: to my childhood and my development into the nightmare that

891
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: I am today. I will give this five nipples a

892
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: couple of months. Yeah, it's really hard for me to

893
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: be objective about this movie because it is my childhood.

894
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,800
Speaker 1: And I think it was really nice to see because

895
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: I think so often in movies that are written and

896
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 1: directed by men where their female characters, the female characters

897
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: are so flawed. I didn't really care that Dottie didn't

898
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 1: have like Dottie was like perfect or whatever. I really

899
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: didn't care. And also there was such a great variety

900
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: of different personalities among the characters, like a like a

901
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:50,240
Speaker 1: brassy Long Island one Dolores. Uh yeah, Rosie was great.

902
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: Um yeah, I just I really liked it. I love baseball.

903
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: I don't care who knows, you're never going to get

904
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: You're right, I baseball hating heathens. I really liked it,

905
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: and I will give all the nipples to Madonna's kick

906
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: gas dancing in the Julia, thank you so much for

907
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: being here. Thank you so much for having me. This

908
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 1: is a this is a dream. I love I love

909
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 1: the pod. Yeah, thank you so much. Where can people

910
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: find you online? You can find me on Twitter too

911
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: much at oh Julia tweets. I'm on Twitter a lot

912
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:33,240
Speaker 1: tweeting about America. Yea, Julia's Twitter feed is an adventure. Yeah,

913
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: it's an adventure in exploring. You know what, some would

914
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: say it used to be good. Uh well great. You

915
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 1: can follow us on Twitter and Instagram at backtel Cast.

916
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: You can check us on on Facebook. You can go

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00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: to our website backtel cast dot com. Keep forgetting to say.

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00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: You can give us money to us so bad, we're dying.

919
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: And yeah, hey, there's no crying and baseball, except there's

920
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 1: all the crying in baseball and in everything. Cry. Bye,