1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Why from our nation's camera this budget thing is going 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: to do nothing space forces. I still think it's interesting 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: President Trump not playing his cards yet. Headlines Policy and 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: Politics colliding Floomberg Sound On, the Insiders, the influencers, the insides. 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: I would rather see a congressional solution. It's part of 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: my DNA. The Senate map in looks a lot different 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: than it looked in. You really have a divide within 8 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: Team Trump. The president has to do exactly what people 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: sent him here to do, which is to get it done. 10 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin Shirley on Bloomberg 11 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: and one oh five point seven f m h D 12 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: two postponed President Trump and President she Jingping might have 13 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: to delay their meeting until December, and it could be 14 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: outside of the United States. Wall Street didn't like that news, 15 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: but still optimism on the US China trade front. Meanwhile, 16 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: the latest on the impeachment front, as Republicans are considering 17 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 1: including the Biden in President Trump's impeachment trial, how quickly 18 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: this could expand outside of Speaker Pelosi's purview, and the 19 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: latest on that impeachment inquiry. Diplomat describing Trump aids escalating 20 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: pressure on the Ukraine. But will it change anything or 21 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: will it end up being a headache for the Democratic 22 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: senators running for president. We have some of the best 23 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: in the business right here in studio. Gretav anceustern Back. 24 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: She is the chief national political analyst for Gray Media, 25 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: host of the new program Full Court Press, and a 26 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: good friend of mine. Greta, We're thrilled to have you here. 27 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: Josh Gaalper is here, co founder and partner of public 28 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 1: relations firm tried End d MG and the law firm 29 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: Davis Goldberg and Galloper. And Ryan Williams, republican strategist executive 30 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: vice president at Targeted Victory. Lots to get through. Greta, 31 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: congrats on the new show. Thank you very much. And 32 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: should I just start talking right now about how the 33 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: last time I was here, I got sickened into bolt 34 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: from the room, threw up in a trash man in 35 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg newsroom, so humiliated. But I'm back tonight and 36 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: I feel healthy and and we're thrilled you're healthy. And 37 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: it was just a testament the last time you were 38 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: pretty good though. That was oh man, that was like 39 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: the most embarrassing. It was pretty dicey during the commercial breaks, 40 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,679 Speaker 1: but I was like, Wow, what a trooper and what 41 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: a tour diforce and journalism and drank. Can I just 42 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: thank the Bloomberg newsroom for not leaking it to like 43 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: playbook like seeing spotted Gretave ancestor and losing everything in 44 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: the newsroom. You know, I don't even think Littman would 45 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: have been able to believe that story had we told 46 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: him that one. Anyway, so much welcome, thank you for 47 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: welcoll what's on the show this weekend? Because the mayor 48 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: Pete really yep, and I'm going to interview him and 49 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: find out why it is that he thinks he should 50 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: be the next president. We can't wait to see that 51 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: interview as well. All right, folks, let's start with impeachment 52 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: because uh, there's so much to get through today. They 53 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: continue to release these transcript one by one, and there 54 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: was another diplomat in a transcript that was released today. 55 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: According to the Bloomberg Terminal, the top US diplomat in 56 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: Ukraine gave the House impeachment inquiry a detailed look at 57 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: escalating efforts by a core group of President Trump's ad 58 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: advisers to pressure Ukraine to open a politically motivated investigation. 59 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: William Taylor, who took charge of US embassy in Ukraine 60 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: after the former abassador was ousted in May, told the 61 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: committees that he thought that phone call back in July 62 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: sounded like a good idea as Ukraine sought to strengthen 63 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: its fight against the Russians. Josh, you know, we were 64 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: talking about this, and you're a democratic insider. We were 65 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: talking about this in terms of whether or not we 66 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: think voters are following and obsessing over the release of 67 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: these transcripts. I'm not sure they are, Josh. So they're 68 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: probably not following every single detail as they as they 69 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: come out and as in following kind of what the 70 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: greater illustration is on the details as opposed to what 71 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: they heard come out of the depositions initially. But the 72 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: but they are following the higher level point here, which 73 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: is that something really bad went down in that phone 74 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: call between uh the President and the President of Ukraine, 75 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: and this is putting all the all greater weight on 76 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: all of it, and they are getting concerned about it increasingly. 77 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: We're seeing that in in polling numbers. Certainly when you 78 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: look at the support for impeachment earlier today, House in 79 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Shift, the Democrat from California. 80 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: I was talking to reporters just about where things stand 81 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: in the impeachment inquiry, and he told the press that 82 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: open hearings are going to begin one week from today. 83 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: So so buckle up, everybody, because that granted, the halls 84 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: of Cargress are going to be packed once these public 85 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: hearings begin. Take a listen to Adam Shift from earlier 86 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: today here he is so those open hearings will be 87 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: an opportunity for the American people to evaluate the witnesses 88 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: for themselves, to make their own determinations about the ability 89 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: of the witnesses, but also to learn firsthand about the 90 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: facts of the president's misconduct. Ryan Williams, Republican, if you 91 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: are in the halls of Congress or a staff are 92 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: briefing a Republican member on the three committees looking into this, 93 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: and these hearings are about to go public, what's your strategy, Well, 94 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: there really isn't a strategy right now. The the strategy 95 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: initially was just to attack the entire format of this 96 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: investigation up until now, having been behind closed doors, and uh, 97 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: you know, done in a way where they couldn't call witnesses. 98 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: Now that's moving to a public phase. The president like 99 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: that approach. The President doesn't want the process attack now, 100 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: he wants himself defended because as he thinks, his call 101 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: is a perfect call that he had with the Ukrainian president. 102 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: So there really isn't any kind of strategy. I think 103 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: many members, uh, certainly in the Senate where they'll have 104 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: to be jurors, are just basically trying not to comment 105 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: on it and saying they're they're a juror, they're going 106 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: to review things. So, um, it's it's not very coordinated. 107 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: As a short answer, Gretta, you wear many hats. One 108 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: of them is lawyer, attorney. And I've also covered the 109 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: Clinton and I was alive for the Nixon And so 110 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: as we head into next week with these public hearings 111 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: just around the corner, what would you be if you 112 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: what would you be advising Democrats and Republicans if they're 113 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: a member of the committee for the show the circus 114 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: that's coming to town next week. Well, first of all, um, 115 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: we haven't heard from any of these witnesses directly, and 116 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: we've only gotten leaks. And if it's something favorable to 117 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: the Republicans. You know, it's some Republicans side favorable to Democrats. 118 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: You know it's favorable. It's um from them that it's 119 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: from the Democratic side. So I think the American people 120 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: have been somewhat poisoned almost by the telephone game of 121 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: anonymous sources. I think I would advise Republicans and the 122 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: Democrats to act civilized, act like adults, to ask questions 123 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: that are probing to you know, you know, no, I 124 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: know it's not gonna have it, but you know, this 125 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: is this is really grave. The thought of Austina president 126 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: constitutional part of our constitution. It's it is grave. And 127 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: so far everybody has taken side. And it's not just 128 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 1: American people, but you can go down the list of 129 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: members of Congress. They have made their positions. No one, 130 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: no one is saying I think, I'll wait for the facts. 131 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: I'll wait to hear everything. Everyone has taken sides, and 132 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: everyone has demonized each other. Yesterday we had Donald Trump Jr. 133 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: On the program and he was raising the issue Josh 134 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: of the Bidens, and in particular that the Biden's relationship 135 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: with Ukraine and that that might be front and center 136 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: come these public hearings as as Republicans and the President 137 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: have raised that issue, and earlier today in the Washington Post, 138 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: Rachel Bade Robert Costa reporting that Senate Republicans consider including 139 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: the Bidens in the Trump impeachment trial. Take a listen 140 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: to what Senator Lindsey Graham, a Republican from South Carolina, 141 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: had to say about that. Here he is, I've tried 142 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: to resist turning the Senate into a circus. I don't 143 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: want to go after Joe and Hunter Biden because people 144 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: are mad that Trump's not getting a fair deal in 145 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: the House, Josh, But you know the US, the members 146 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: of the Freedom Caucus, Jim Jordan's, Mark Meadows, they they're 147 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: gonna you know how hearings work up on Capitol Hill. 148 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: Some of the questions that are going to be out 149 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: there are going to truthfully illustrate or raise questions about 150 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: the Bidens. And and now, if you're the Biden campaign, 151 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: you've got to deal with the tax coming from Elizabeth 152 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: Warren on Medicare policy, saying are not progressive enough, and 153 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: now nationally televised impeachment hearings, which could play like an 154 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: attack ad for the Republicans against Joe Biden. Well, Let's 155 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: not forget that the Vice President has been dealing with 156 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: these attacks for the last six weeks, so it's not 157 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: like he hasn't been front and center, and Hundre hasn't 158 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: been front and center, um in Republican attack lines until now. 159 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: I think the Republicans are going to do their best 160 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: to make them a part of these hearings. But at 161 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: the end of the day, Um, I think it's gonna 162 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: be a really narrow scope and that's gonna be a 163 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: challenge for the Democrats in the House to keep these 164 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: hearings and to keep the articles of appeciate. They'll be 165 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: put together focused tightly on Ukraine and on struction of justice. Josh, 166 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: where I grew up, a lot of people don't make 167 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: fifty tho dollars a year. And I know in Washington, Wisconsin. Appleton, 168 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: Wisconsin also home a Rocky Flyer, Harry Whodini lived there. 169 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: A lot of other people, but anyway, rock but you 170 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: know where you know, fifty a lot of money, and 171 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: he was in Biden's son Hunter was making fifty dollars 172 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: a month. And now I don't think it's illegal, but 173 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: it certainly is unseemly, and it certainly does reflect poorly 174 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: on Hunter Biden and his father says he didn't know 175 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: anything about it. But I think this hurts the Biden 176 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: campaign and people who are sort of on the fence. 177 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: Did I vote for this Democrat or another Democrat? Um? 178 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: You know Vice President Biden. Uh, you couldn't find a 179 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: nicer guy in Washington. But I think this fifty dollars 180 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: a month is not helpful to his campaign. I tried 181 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: to press done on this yesterday, but Gretted, do you 182 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: think there's going to be pressure or do you think 183 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: one of the things that might start to come up 184 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: is whether or not President Trump releases the transcripts of 185 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: the calls between Biden. I don't know if they'd be released, 186 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: but I'm waiting for Zelinsky side of this equation to 187 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: release the complete transcript, because remember, we only have a 188 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: memorandum of the July conversation. We do not have the 189 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: complete transcript. And I'm a little bit suspicious that the 190 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: Ukrainians said that they recorded it and that they have 191 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: a full transcript. So I'm waiting for that. All right, 192 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: coming up, we're gonna dive into the numbers upset upset 193 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: in last night's Kentucky gubernatorial race. Democrat Andy Basher the 194 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: apparent winner in Kentucky's governor race. Is that a blow 195 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: to President Trump? 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Thrilled to have 205 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 1: everybody here. Let's start with last night. We got to 206 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: talk about last night because there were some major races 207 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: in in uh in the governorships and and in Kentucky 208 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: Attorney General will start in Kentucky. Kentucky Attorney General Andy 209 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: Butcher pulled off an apparent upset. That's what NBC News 210 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 1: is calling it. Tuesday Night over Republican incumbent Governor Matt Bevan. Now, remember, folks, 211 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: President Trump was campaigning in Kentucky for Governor bevn just 212 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: the night before. Now, I was talking to sources today. 213 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: We were telling me, Hey, you know there was Bevin 214 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 1: had some problems. You know, he was perceived as being 215 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: a bit corrupt put it mildly, uh, And he tried 216 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: to nationalize the race, but it didn't work. They were 217 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: looking at downballot races and they in Kentucky and they 218 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: found some glimmers of hope. But then head to Virginia. 219 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: Here in the Virginia State Legislator, Democrats flipped both chambers. 220 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: Both chambers. Now Democrats have complete party control for the 221 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: first time in years. And of course, in Mississippi, the 222 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: Republican governor Tate Reeves Lieutenant Governor Tate Reads the Republican 223 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: apparent winner in uh in that race, gret, what do 224 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: you make of? Are these bellweathers or are we political 225 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: junkies are reading too much into into last night? Well, 226 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: I think the governor in Kentucky was very unpopular with 227 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: his people in Kentucky. Although the President President tweeted had 228 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: had he had he won his governor been reelected. The 229 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: President would have taken credit for and he's certainly not 230 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: taking credit for the loss, and he takes credit for 231 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: the race in Mississippi. UM. Now, I think Virginia's fascinating 232 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 1: because they have an opportunity. Now they've got the Democrats 233 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: have the entire field, and are they going to get 234 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: in gun control fast? Are they gonna do that quickly? 235 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 1: I mean, they can do a lot of things as 236 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: Democrats and show basically the rest of the country what 237 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: Democrats will do if elected. So I think there's a 238 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: lot of pressure on Virginia, if Josh, I mean, just 239 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,719 Speaker 1: as we stare down now a couple of months out 240 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,599 Speaker 1: until the Iowa caucus. Uh, and we know Grett is 241 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: going to be interviewing one of those contenders, Pete Buddha 242 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: g Edge this week on her show. Uh, if your Biden, 243 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: If you're Buddha Gedge, Sanders Warren and you're looking at 244 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: last night, what are you gleaning from from those numbers? Yeah? 245 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: I think there are a couple of red lights on 246 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: for both parties. The first just for Trump, UM and 247 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: the Republicans. You're you're looking at moderates in suburbs who 248 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: helped to turn this election for them, especially when you 249 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: look at Kentucky. And I think that's meaningful and I 250 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: think that the Republican Party is worried about this, and 251 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 1: you're seeing this in the journalism today coming out of 252 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: the election. On the Democratic side, I think it's really 253 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 1: important to look at how to share one how that's important. Well, 254 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: let's talk about the issues and how we want on 255 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: the issues, because because it really reflects on where the 256 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: Democratic Party is and where the energy is right now. 257 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: We think of Bernie Sanders, you think of Elizabeth Warren 258 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: um and at that end of the party. But you 259 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: were talking about you making sure that healthcare is not 260 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: taken away from people. You're talking about making sure the 261 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: teacher's pensions are protected, um, and that education is invested 262 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: in and you're talking about reproductive rights. I mean, those 263 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,599 Speaker 1: are those are bedrock kind of you know, center of 264 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: the road issues. And the way he approached it was centrist, 265 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: and I think it's it's actually a sign that that 266 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: that has currency in the Democratic Party and this could 267 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: lead to, you know, a return of the centrists in 268 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: terms of prominence in our in our party, the Democratic Party. 269 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: As the primary gets underway, Ryan Republican strategists, are you 270 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: hitting the panic button? No. Um. The Kentucky governor's race, 271 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: I think is a different animal than a federal race. 272 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: The governor was very unpopular Governor Bevan Um. At the 273 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: same time that he lost, Republicans actually picked up every 274 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: other statewide office. They took supermajorities in both houses there. Um, 275 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: I think that race was unique to him. That being said, 276 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: Bevin is a guy that was kind of in the 277 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: mold of Trump. He was not expected to win his 278 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: race four years ago. It was an upset when he 279 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: was an outsider that kind of bombastic came in sort 280 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: of like Trump did a little a year later. But 281 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: when he got into office, he really didn't tack to 282 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: the middle. He didn't kind of calm down and act 283 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: like a statesman, and it's cost him re elections. So 284 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: I think that's of concern. But overall, Um, if you 285 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: look at the results, Kentucky went for Republicans pretty uh, 286 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: pretty well down the ballot, especially for the attorney general, 287 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: Daniel Cammon, remember that name. He's a future star for 288 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: the party. First African American attorney general in state history. 289 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: You know that. It's also like the r the election, 290 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: it's a year away, and this just seems so important, 291 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: so significant right now. But a year from now, we'll 292 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: be saying, what race in Kentucky, what race in Mississippi? 293 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: Look there there is um. Yes, not a not a 294 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: long memory for voters for sure. Um. And so we're right, 295 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: we're trying to read the te leaves to look ahead, 296 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: and that's all we can do, right um. But at 297 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: the same time, I think that there are campaigns taking 298 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: note of the fact that this is validation. If you 299 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: are a centrist running for the nomination of the Democratic Party, 300 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: you're looking at the fact that you know, this gnutural 301 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: candidate was not trying to remake health policy overall, you know, 302 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: which is a good sign for Democrats. I mean that's 303 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: thinking that that centrist because a lot of the sort 304 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: of the candidates are president right now, some of them 305 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: are running way far left, absolute way far left and 306 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: a lot of But do we think Warren's going to 307 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: attack to the middle after seeing this, I don't think so. Yeah. 308 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: I don't think it's about her. I think it's about 309 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: the party. The voters looking to the candidates who are 310 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: centrists and seeing, you know what, maybe this is the 311 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: way to win but but how do you do that? 312 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: You have you have Bernie Sanders saying free college for everyone, 313 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: and then you've got Center clob you are saying, look, 314 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: I'd like free college for everyone, but you know, but 315 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: that's impractical. So now nobody wants her, you know who 316 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: wants a free college? And speaking speaking of Senator Amy 317 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: klob Are, she just qualified for the December debate, so 318 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: she has continued to find see. I think she's she's 319 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: gonna do a lot better in Iowa than people realize, 320 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: to take a lot better. And that's a problem for 321 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: Joe Biden because because if he does not have a 322 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: strong showing in Iowa, as he's not expected to. But 323 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: a centrist, does I mean our clobit chart votes Biden 324 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: votes or our Biden votes cloba chart votes. I mean, 325 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: that's another question I had my eye on, you know 326 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: this credit I wake up and I read the Delko Times. 327 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: In the headline, you know what, the front page of 328 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: the Delko Times was d Day. You know why because 329 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: it was historic. The Democrats swept three county council seats 330 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: and now have a five oh grip. Why does that matter? 331 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: Because it's suburban Philadelphia and that is where President Trump 332 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: overperformed in the last presidential election and was able to 333 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: kill This is Pennsylvania bragging about how important is Let's 334 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: go back to Wisconsin. I mean, let's let's talk about 335 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: that was a vote difference and Hilly Clinton never bothered 336 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: a visit. That's the state that's gonna Wisconsin is going 337 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 1: to determine who the next president is. 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You're listening to Bloomberg Sound On with 346 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: Kevin Surreley on Bloomberg and one oh five point seven 347 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: F M H D two. There are days work is hard. 348 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: There are days when you don't know what what the 349 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: show is gonna sound like. Today not one of those days, 350 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: because we've got three of my favorites here in studio, 351 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: Greta man Sustern, Josh Gaalper, and Ryan Williams making my 352 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: job easy. Not only easy, but I'm learning by watching 353 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: all three of you. So let's talk policy. Did you 354 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: see this? So I this is some bad news, and 355 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: I'm an optimist, but the i m F, the i 356 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: m F is warning Europe to make an emergency plan 357 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: for an economic slump. They're not as optimistic as our 358 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: Central Bay Fed chair J Powell, who I went to 359 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: law school with. You went to law school with. J 360 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: Powell was in my class? Was how everyone says, like 361 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: I would, I always say, he's a nice kid. He 362 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: was a really nice kid. He was. He was a 363 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: nice kid. Was he like you know, fed chairs and 364 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: and and like Janet. I can't imagine them as kids 365 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 1: because they're so serious and they talk in monotone. But 366 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: was he always that like like the Fed minutes. He 367 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: came to Georgetown Law School having come from Princeton, so 368 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: he had sort of aura from the rest of us 369 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: a k from public school. No, but he was. He 370 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: was a very nice guy. It was fun. There was 371 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: a really great article I believe in the Journal or 372 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: the post about his wife being on a local dog park. 373 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: The dog park, that's probably pore wife. So how can 374 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: we get business out of this? So this is a 375 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: business deal. This she was very involved and I'm blanking 376 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: and I shouldn't have mentioned it because I'm liking on 377 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: the details. But she was very involved in the dog 378 00:19:58,080 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: She's like the mayor, She's like the mayor of this 379 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 1: little community. Yeah, it's a it's a it's a thankless job, 380 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: thankless job, you know. I felt, I felt storry for 381 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: I read the whole story, and I read the whole 382 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: story and loved it. Yeah, and there was there was 383 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: a follow up too, and it's it's terrible that dog 384 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: park is now gone. It is, yeah, very popular, brought 385 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 1: the community together, but now it's gone. But the economy 386 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: nationally doing well but not in Europe, and Germany stuck 387 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: to its stands. That how's that for a pivot? And 388 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 1: Germany is a big weekend, a big week coming up 389 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: year of the wall going down? Yes right, yes, yes, 390 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,719 Speaker 1: but so the International Monetary Fund urging Europe to come 391 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: up with some emergency plans, and we talked so much 392 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: about global volatility and whether or not the economy and 393 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 1: domestically here in the United States is doing well. We 394 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: often you can't look at the the U S economy 395 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: and a vacuum. It's so much impacted by what's going 396 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: on in Germany and Asia obviously as well. And I 397 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: was at the White House earlier today for Bloomberg Television 398 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: reporting on the Voiders scoop where the Trump she Trade 399 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: summit may have to go to December now because it 400 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: was supposed to be in Chili, Siillian Chili no longer 401 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: because the protesters have the protesters uh had some security concerns, 402 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: so that's not going to happen. And President Trump had 403 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: floated that it might be elsewhere, but we might have 404 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 1: to wait till December in order to get phase one 405 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: of that deal completely gretit. Yes, and look this is us. 406 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: I used to interview Donald Trump years and years and 407 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: years ago, almost almost every week or two weeks when 408 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 1: I was at the Fox News Channel, And it's long 409 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: before he even we even contemplated that he would run 410 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: for president. And you'd be talking about the weather and 411 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: say it's a nice outside on the air, and he'd say, 412 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: China is ripping us off. I mean, he was obsessed. 413 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: We used to always and you know, as we used 414 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: to always say before and planning, like, how are we 415 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: going to if the discussion is about Saudi Arabia, how 416 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: do we get Trump not to talk about China. He's 417 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: always been concerned with US China relations and so this 418 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: is not something new since has become president. Um and uh. 419 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: He wants that meeting because he wants to handle that 420 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 1: trade trade issue. And of course we've got the problem 421 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: with the Iowa farmers and and their expectations. So it's 422 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 1: a lot going on with trade right when you talk 423 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: to businesses and CEO is just about the importance of 424 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: Phase one. Wall Street dipped on this news about there 425 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: being a delay in this. They don't want to see 426 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: these tariffs December fifteen go into effect. How important is 427 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: it to provide not just political certainty from the conservative perspective, 428 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: but also economic certainty heading into calendar year that Phase 429 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: one get completed by the end of the year. It's 430 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: very important that there's nothing that Wall Street takes more 431 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: than uncertainty. And there's been certainly a lot of uncertainty 432 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: and this administration on various things, the China issue being 433 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: one of the biggest. It looked like we were on 434 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 1: on track for something this time finally, but now obviously 435 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 1: with the meeting being canceled with other developments, it just 436 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 1: puts the uncertainty back into the equation, and um, that's 437 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: not I don't think that's good for the president fold 438 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: into it. The government shutdown November one, impeachment shutdown. There's 439 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: just more uncertainty, and I think it gets people jittery. 440 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: And those hearings, I know, oh my gosh, the hearings 441 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: are set up again right around the time of their 442 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: potentially being. The market hasn't seemed to react to the 443 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: impeach It's like a separate drama. It's all like a 444 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 1: Shakespeare in a side that this is going on, and 445 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: the actors are talking like the audience isn't there. You know. 446 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: I think most most people think that he's just gonna stay. 447 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: I mean, well, you can't get twenty Republicans sayers probably 448 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: it looks completely unlikely. But the but the government shutdown 449 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: and that, you know, that's where reacts, and the trade 450 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 1: issues that's where it does react. So I mean, while 451 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 1: we are consumed with the impeachment, there's a lot going 452 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: on that could affect our economy, and that's what I'm 453 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: reminded of every single day on Bloomberg Television. You have 454 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: literally seen zero reaction in the markets on any of 455 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 1: the releases of the transcript. Coming up, What's on the 456 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: panel's radar. Download the Bloomberg sald On podcast on Apple iTunes, 457 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: at Bloomberg dot com, or by downloading the Bloomberg Business app. 458 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: You can also find me on Radio dot com, I 459 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: Heart Radio, and Spotify. I'm Kevin Serelli, Chief Washington correspondent 460 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 1: for Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio. You're listening to Bloomberg. 461 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin Surreley on Bloomberg 462 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 1: and one oh five point seven f m h D two. 463 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin CURRELEI, Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television in 464 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. Some breaking news tonight former Attorney General Jeff 465 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: Sessions to announce his bid for the Alabama Senate seat 466 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: on Thursday. Our panel reacting, Gret Evan Sustern, Josh Galper, 467 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: and Ryan Williams's well, that that explains why he was 468 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: speaking at some small republican organization in Georgia. Recently at 469 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 1: Alabama recently Alabama Alabama recently, and he had praised for 470 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,959 Speaker 1: President Trump, who had fired him so and who had 471 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: belittled him. So now it looks like he's going to 472 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: have Trump. Trump's inside the tent, or he's inside Trump's tent. 473 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: I don't know where. I mean, I'm not an expert 474 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 1: in Alabama politics, but I'm it should be a relatively 475 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: easy win for I don't think so. No, it's it's 476 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: a pretty wide field. You've got Coach Tupperville in the race, 477 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: Congress and Bradley Byrne. You've even got Roy Moore. I 478 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: think he's going to get pounded by by Trump. The 479 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: President does not like him. But but he came out 480 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: for the President, which was unusually. He's one of those 481 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: guys that Trump has just never let it go. Yeah, 482 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: but but President Trump also has his job up next 483 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: and so because he's gonna be able to focus on 484 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: settling the score. And remember remember Sessions was the first 485 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: first person, first senator to endorse Trump. That doesn't matter 486 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: anymore to him to respect, right, my friend Ryan Williams, 487 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: we've seen the President go back and forth for whatever reason. 488 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 1: There's a few people who He's never gone back and 489 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: forth on it's been Sessions banning. They're They're permanently in 490 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: the doghouse, and I think that the President would like 491 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: to stick it to him on this one, all right. 492 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: And then John Roberts, our friend John Roberts over at 493 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 1: a Fox News that tweeted out earlier today from a 494 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: senior Administration official, Pam Bundy and Tony saying, remember Tony 495 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: from the Treasury Department, Tony Sayeg are expected to join 496 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,719 Speaker 1: the White House Communications team to work on proactive impeachment 497 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: messaging and other special projects. I'm known Pam Bondi since 498 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: she was a prosecutor in Hillsborough County, Florida about twenty 499 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: five years. I've been on TV when prosecutor and defense attorney, 500 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: and I've known her for years. And Tony was the 501 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: driving force behind the messaging of the tax the tax 502 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: bill that went through, so from taxes to impeachment. I 503 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: guess Tray Gouty's on the outs. He's not gonna couldn't 504 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 1: do it well. The unfortunate thing, though, is that when 505 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 1: that whole thing broke, he lost his contract at Yeah, 506 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: so he's sort of in the nemoso of a situation 507 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: for him. This is also six weeks too late. I mean, 508 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: they should have been planning this really for the last 509 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: you know, a month and a half, in even a 510 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: couple of years. Just think of the six weeks that 511 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: we have ahead. Just not not. If you're driving in 512 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: your car and your way from work, drive safe, because 513 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: don't swerve off the road, because you've got a potential 514 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: to the public hearing start for the impeachment. Oh yeah, 515 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 1: may be a shutdown. But the best thing about the 516 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 1: shutdown is it's up against Thanksgiving and all those lawmakers 517 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 1: want to go home, so maybe there won't be And 518 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: then the prospects are the finalization potentially of the U S. 519 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: China Phase one. Well, you know, the shutdown I think 520 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 1: is a little bit of a risk for the you know, 521 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 1: for the country, because I don't think I don't think 522 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: Trump is gonna sign whatever they do pass if there's 523 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: no money for the wall. Remember, you know, he's he's made, 524 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: he's made those states. You know, he's now He made 525 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 1: a lot of promises when he ran for president. One 526 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,479 Speaker 1: of those help was to bring Bob Levinson home from Iran, 527 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: the former FBI agent who's missing in Iran and just 528 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: the other day they announced a twenty million dollar reward 529 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: to help lead to his return. So Trump is now 530 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: now making sure they's going back to all his old 531 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: promises and that Wall is sticking with him. Also, can't 532 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: separate that from impeachment. It's all going to be bound 533 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: out a big, big mass. That's a good word for 534 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: it all. All right, time now for my favorite segment, 535 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: what's on the panel's radar? And Ryan Williams is going 536 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: first because Greta van Sustern just called him out and 537 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: point that point. It's like in a restaurant starting to 538 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: start at that side of the table. Here's the men, 539 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: go ahead, right, what's on your radar? Well? Look, I 540 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: attended an event today hosted by a number of different 541 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: groups IBM, interpool UM Stop Human Human Trafficking to unveil 542 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: a new tool to help track and and try to 543 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: stamp out human trafficking using artificial intelligence. And I think 544 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 1: when many people think about artificial intelligence, they think about 545 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 1: trying to sell you ads or track what you're doing 546 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: or your behavior. But this was a really interesting use 547 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: of the of technology to stop a real global problem 548 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 1: by analyzing news on the Internet, tweets, bank records transactions 549 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: to try to stamp it out, and I thought it 550 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 1: was it was It was a very interesting use that 551 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: people don't really think about with artificial intelligence, and kudos 552 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: to IBM and others for developed I have two follow 553 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: up questions. Is there is there a legislative role here 554 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: where the where they would need a legis of piece 555 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: of legislation or encouragement public private partnership type of thing. No, 556 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: it just needs the buy and of of you know, 557 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: financial institutions, and there were some there. Then you need 558 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: law enforcement that we had Cyrus Vans there today, the 559 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: District Attorney from Manhattan. You had Ambassador Richmond that that 560 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: that the chief human trafficking official at the State Department. 561 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: So it was a together absolutely because you know that's important. 562 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: We were This isn't really a question, but it's it's 563 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: a point, uh, when it comes to gun reform. You know, 564 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: wherever you are on that debate, we've talked about this 565 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: every time there's been one of those horrific tragedies. Artificial 566 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: intelligence is something that could really really get the support 567 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: of both parties, and it's applicable the same tools that 568 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: they're doing to stop human trafficking could be applicable to 569 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: to seeing who these people are that do these horrific tragedies. 570 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: So you know, there's a lot to be done there, 571 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: and they already do it for terrorists. So that's a 572 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: good one, right, Thanks for that, Joshua's on your radar. 573 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: On my radar is a piece of legislation that was 574 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: just introduced by two members of Congress from Silicon Valley, 575 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: the cradle of tech and innovation, uh Anna Sue and 576 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: so Loft Grin. They've introduced a bill very media bills, 577 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: something like a hundred thirty two pages to create an 578 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: agency to protect consumer privacy rights. So all of the 579 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: apps that we use, all the tech we use, we 580 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: you know, the assumptions that nobody really knows where that 581 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: data is going or really giving informed consent, all the 582 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: problems we've read about on the front page over the 583 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: last many, however many years. They want to have an 584 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: agency to be that watchdog. Take it, you know, out 585 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: of the FTC and create this new freestanding agency. People 586 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: are calling it dead on arrival, that it won't pass. 587 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: I say, there's gonna be a lot of conversation about 588 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: this bill, and it's gonna help supercharge efforts to do 589 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: you think that that that there are are there other 590 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: other countries that have a similar agency that there are 591 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: definitely other other countries that that have Privacy is a 592 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: central role of looking out. We don't have that now. 593 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: We don't have a federal privacy law. We don't and 594 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: and you know, actually business wants that. Business wants to 595 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 1: know what the rules are. It's it's interesting because I 596 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: was literally earlier today at the Arena stage. There's a 597 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: show playing called The Right to Be Forgotten, and it 598 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: won a bunch of awards a couple of years ago. 599 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: And it's all about an individual's right to be forgotten 600 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: on the Internet and whether or not culturally that should 601 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: be applicable. And that's a conversation they've been having in 602 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: Europe for years. It's there right in California too, to 603 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: a certain extent. And and and even beyond my final 604 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:26,959 Speaker 1: point on that would just be when you when you 605 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: think of the socio economic divide on that, how the 606 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: wealthy are able to be forgotten online but other folks aren't. 607 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: There's a lot of interest in cultural implications kind of well, actually, 608 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: something's gonna ask whatever happened to Kim Jong on. But 609 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: what you brought up the whole privacy thing is the 610 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: congressman from California who resigned talked about what because on 611 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: the internet and the revenge porn or whatever. But I 612 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: still don't understand why people are putting naked pictures of 613 00:31:55,000 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: themselves on the internet. That story once on average, No no, no, 614 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: But it's because I was going to talk about Kim 615 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: Jong on it and like I'm like, no one's paying 616 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,959 Speaker 1: attention while he's doing all this testing. But you know, 617 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: we live in very strange times and still but and 618 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: and also a little apparently a little older people. I 619 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: mean at least one thing, you know, and the younger people. 620 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: It was the congressman Texas they went down. I don't know. 621 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: This show is to end with we we we We 622 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: begin with the with the recollection of Greta and and 623 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: getting sick. I never invited back. No, you're welcome anytime. 624 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: All right, you know what's on my radar? Year? I 625 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: thought I was gonna end on how positive? Uh? Did 626 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: you guys see this? Seth Meyers Netflix comedy special now 627 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: has a button for the skip President Trump jokes? Did 628 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: you see this? So when you're when you watch Seth 629 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: Meyers on Netflix. He gave an interview to CNN Business. 630 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: When you watch Seth Meyers, you know, it says like 631 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,479 Speaker 1: when you're binge watching like Friends, as I do. And 632 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: then and it says, skip the intro. Now they're going 633 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: to have the that says, I'm not making it up. 634 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: Skip President Trump jokes because he wants to. I guess 635 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: have Republicans watch his comedy routines. But he understands that. 636 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: I guess some Republicans don't want to see them do that, 637 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: So you can skip. You can skip ahead of the 638 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: Trump jokes. Gretecker, your quick take on that we live 639 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: in strange times. That's all I could say. All Right, Well, 640 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: I want to thank everybody for making the time for us. 641 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: Ryan Williams, Republican strategist, Executive vice president at Targeted Victory. 642 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: Josh Gallper, co founder and partner of public relations from 643 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: Tried at DMG and the law firm Davis, Goldberg and Gallper, 644 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: and of course Greta Van Sustern, my good friend and 645 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: chief national political analysts for Gray Media. Host a full 646 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: court press with Greta Van Susterion. Congratulations on the success 647 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: of that show. I have to say, I am not 648 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: surprised you haven't seen it. I've been download the Bloomberg 649 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: Sound on podcast on Apple, it Tunes and Bloomberg dot 650 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: or by downloading the Bloomberg Business App. You can also 651 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: find us on Radio dot Com, I Heart Radio, and Spotify. 652 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Cirelli, Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television and 653 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. You're listening so Bloomberg