WEBVTT - Snakes on a Plane

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<v Speaker 1>On the Bechdecast, the questions asked if movies have women

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<v Speaker 1>and them, are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands,

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<v Speaker 1>or do they have individualism? The patriarchy? Zeph and Best

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<v Speaker 1>start changing with the Bechdel Cast.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Jamie, Hey Caitlin, I have had it with these

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<v Speaker 2>motherfucking snakes on this motherfucking podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I had a snake really like that. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not kidding. I have a snake tank.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I went through my snake face and then I

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<v Speaker 1>just it turns out I'm afraid of snakes.

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<v Speaker 2>I too, am afraid of snakes. I would not want

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<v Speaker 2>one as a pet personally.

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<v Speaker 1>Friend of the show, Maggie Maye, this is gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a loose episode, but it's also gonna be a very

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<v Speaker 1>serious episode.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so serious.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't underestimate how much text there is to discuss. Maggie

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<v Speaker 1>may Fish front of the show has a snake, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and her snake outgrew the tank, which is a terrifying prospect.

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<v Speaker 1>IUSSI believe your snake is named Jeff. That's in which

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<v Speaker 1>I think is very cute.

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<v Speaker 2>That's hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff a snake and she was like, hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff outgrew the tank. If you want, if you want

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<v Speaker 1>the old tank, and so I still have the tank.

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<v Speaker 1>I still but now it's like I have two cats

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<v Speaker 1>and adult you know, like, am I really gonna add

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<v Speaker 1>a snake into the mix? It just feels like a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's not a big apartment. According to the

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<v Speaker 2>movie where watching we're discussing today might be dangerous, it

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<v Speaker 2>might be a little scary.

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<v Speaker 1>I was honestly, Okay, first of all, welcome to the

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<v Speaker 1>Bechdel Cast. This is uh, this is in like sort

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<v Speaker 1>of for like content warning, and just like I just

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<v Speaker 1>want everyone to sort of prepare themselves for like a

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<v Speaker 1>sort of serious episode today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a lot of like just upsetting things to discuss.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot it's yeah, things are gonna be a

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<v Speaker 2>little grim yeah today.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's it's gonna be you know, it's not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>feel good. But I think it's a conversation that I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe it's over correction to apologize, but

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we've been avoiding this conversation in a

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<v Speaker 1>way that is irresponsible to our listener base, who like,

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<v Speaker 1>we appreciate and we care about you so much, and

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<v Speaker 1>like you've been asking us to sort of speak to this,

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<v Speaker 1>and we were just like trying to get the words together.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's, yeah, we we should not have been silent

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<v Speaker 2>on this matter, this matter being discussing the movie Snakes

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<v Speaker 2>on a Plane two.

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<v Speaker 1>Thousand and six. I'm like, I don't I'm like, how long?

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<v Speaker 1>How long do we keep it up?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I genuinely don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, Oh, I should not be laughing. He sound like

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<v Speaker 2>you're truk serious.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not funny.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not funny.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess to open with an apology, and it

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<v Speaker 1>came from a place of kind of I agree with

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<v Speaker 1>the criticism that said that it was coming from a

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<v Speaker 1>place of fear and avoidance on our point, but in

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<v Speaker 1>our defense, I think it was also like, yeah, when

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<v Speaker 1>people started asking us to comment on this, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think we knew ourselves well enough to really be able

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<v Speaker 1>to intelligently say, like, if we had done this, even

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<v Speaker 1>you know, three or four years ago, I wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>been able to see the shades of gray in the text.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have gotten it all wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe even three or four months ago. Like there's been

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of growth recently on our parts. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know.

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<v Speaker 1>If we could have seen the snakes three or four

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<v Speaker 1>of months ago, the movie would have been really confusing

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<v Speaker 1>if we saw the.

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<v Speaker 2>Movie is called Snakes on a Plane, but I don't

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<v Speaker 2>see right. But now we know what is there, and

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<v Speaker 2>what's there is snakes on a plane, and certainly.

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<v Speaker 1>More than one.

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<v Speaker 2>There's plural snakes a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I was genuinely shocked to find that there were four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty real snakes on set.

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<v Speaker 2>Because to me, they're all cgi.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw one shot of a I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a snake, and then the rest were yeah, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know whatever. My final animation project in college of

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<v Speaker 1>a snake going hasasa. That's this, Uh, of course this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, you asked for it, Well, that's the other thing, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is our number one request. Yes, this is at

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<v Speaker 2>the top of our request list. I think every listener

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<v Speaker 2>at one point has requested, nay demanded, we do this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, and I think, and it's honestly, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>for those wondering, in case it's not obvious, this is

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<v Speaker 1>part of the reason we like the show even exists.

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<v Speaker 2>I approached Jamie like, yeah, eight and a half nine

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<v Speaker 2>years ago whatever, and I was like, yeah, it's really

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<v Speaker 2>important to me. Like we're not going to be ready

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<v Speaker 2>to do it for a long time, but it's like

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<v Speaker 2>having having the foresight to know that like this needs

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<v Speaker 2>to be discussed through an intersectional feminist lens, and that

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<v Speaker 2>we have to just sort of build up, build up

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<v Speaker 2>our brand, yeah, build up our knowledge, and get to

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<v Speaker 2>a point where we can discuss this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was kind of like, honestly taken aback at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, where you know, you led the conversation by

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<v Speaker 1>being like, I have not heard anyone talk about intersectional

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<v Speaker 1>feminism in which is wild because we didn't even really

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<v Speaker 1>use that term then, but yeah, intersectional feminism in the

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<v Speaker 1>movie Snakes on a plane, right, And I was like, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well we should try to talk about it. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you said well and then you put your hand on mine,

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<v Speaker 1>which was was you didn't ask for consent. But it

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<v Speaker 1>was twenty sixteen. We were still figured stuff up.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Jamie not, you know, we were viving the signals,

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<v Speaker 2>were there were signals you're vibing.

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<v Speaker 1>We were look, I'm not I'm not calling you. I

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<v Speaker 1>loved it. I loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>For a second.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, But yeah, you put your hand on mine

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<v Speaker 1>and you said, well, I don't think we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be ready to talk about snakes on a plane for

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<v Speaker 1>at least eight years. And I was kind of taken

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<v Speaker 1>aback because that's a big commitment. But yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't regret a second of it. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>we needed every single second to get to where we

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<v Speaker 1>are now, so that we I mean, honestly, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we could have taken even longer, but it was just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, our inboxes are overflowing. They're like now more

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<v Speaker 1>than ever, please please talk about it. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's time. I think it's time that we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>it's times.

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<v Speaker 2>And the other thing about it too is that like,

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<v Speaker 2>because this whole podcast has been leading up to this,

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<v Speaker 2>there's like really not much reason for us to go on.

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<v Speaker 2>So this will be our last episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and so if you've been a listener for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the better part of a decade now, like we're so

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<v Speaker 1>grateful for your support for your patients with us as

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<v Speaker 1>we continue to grow to a point where we could

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<v Speaker 1>finally have this discussion, and.

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<v Speaker 2>We're grateful and were snake ful. That was not a

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<v Speaker 2>very good joke, but again, this is a very serious episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's you need levity in an episode like this,

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<v Speaker 1>That's true, true, I feel like I'm on the verge

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<v Speaker 1>of tears. But you know, for old times sake, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a first time listener, this is the perfect episode

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<v Speaker 1>of this show to start with.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the Bechdel caste sorry again, sorry to laugh.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a response to fear. It's exactly wild that people

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<v Speaker 1>aren't laughing more in the movies. Snakes up way, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I do mean that. But the Bechdel Cast it's

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<v Speaker 1>a show where we look at your favorite movies, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>using the Bechdel test as a jumping off point for discussion. Kaitlyn,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean just as a sendoff, would like the folks

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<v Speaker 1>at home know what that is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't modify it a little bit for the

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<v Speaker 2>sake of this episode. So the Bechdel tests, there are

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<v Speaker 2>many versions of it. For this episode in particular, do

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<v Speaker 2>to snakes hiss at each other about something other than

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<v Speaker 2>another snake, and it has to be a really significant

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<v Speaker 2>like hiss for it to pass. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I felt like, you know, by that matric,

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<v Speaker 1>and shockingly by even more conventional metrics. This movie does

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<v Speaker 1>pass the Bechdel's House and more than once, which was frankly.

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<v Speaker 2>Shocking, so shocking.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do I feel ready to I just feel ready.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel ready to jump in.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what's your what's your relationship with this movie? Jamie?

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing. I have no history of this movie. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>that it came out on my birthday when I was

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<v Speaker 1>in middle school. WHOA, yeah, it just came out on

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<v Speaker 1>August eighteenth.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it did.

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<v Speaker 1>It came out on my birthday in middle school, and

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<v Speaker 1>I remember wanting to see it, but unfortunately I was

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<v Speaker 1>in middle school and I could not go see it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just remember, I don't know if I like

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<v Speaker 1>held it against the movie, but I never saw it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I was just like, fuck this movie. I'm thirteen,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't go. And it's always like I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I always remember when a movie, especially when I was young,

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<v Speaker 1>came out on my birthday, Because The Master of Disguise

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<v Speaker 1>came out on my birthday, The Iron Giant came out

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<v Speaker 1>on my birthday, Snakes on a Plane came out on

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<v Speaker 1>my birthday. You just remember, you know, when your birthdays

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<v Speaker 1>on a Friday. These are things that stick. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>remember a specific movie coming out on your birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the movie Troy WHOA Okay came out on

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<v Speaker 2>my birthday, but I might be full of shit. Let

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<v Speaker 2>me see Troy release date. Oh it was closed. It

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<v Speaker 2>was May fourteenth, Okay, two thousand and four. There you go,

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<v Speaker 2>so a few days off, but it's like it came out.

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<v Speaker 1>The week and you just remember, especially when you're too

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<v Speaker 1>young to see the movie. This was the ultimate example

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<v Speaker 1>of this for me, because you know, did The Master

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<v Speaker 1>of Disguise come out at least close to my birthday? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was the Targe audience and so I could go.

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<v Speaker 1>But Snake's on a Plane, Yeah, I just had never

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<v Speaker 1>seen it.

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<v Speaker 2>And well, I think another reason you were avoiding it

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<v Speaker 2>probably is because it is such a heavy text and you.

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<v Speaker 1>Could sense that from the marketing, and so I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, probably you know, I love my parents, They

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<v Speaker 1>were great parents, and I think they were probably like,

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<v Speaker 1>she's not ready, And honestly, at that time they may

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<v Speaker 1>not have been ready to see I mean fair what

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<v Speaker 1>took place. I will say, this is my first experience

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<v Speaker 1>with Snakes on a Plane. I was really genuinely interested

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<v Speaker 1>in the like micro lore around this movie that I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't aware of because it's like, yeah, my other podcast

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<v Speaker 1>is all about internet history, and this movie was is

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<v Speaker 1>way more entrenched in like early two thousands internet history

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<v Speaker 1>than I realized, and in fact, like content in the

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<v Speaker 1>movie is influenced by how people talked about this movie

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<v Speaker 1>on the Internet, which I can't I'm sure that there

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<v Speaker 1>are examples, but I can't think of an example pre

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<v Speaker 1>dating this where it was like the movie got such

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<v Speaker 1>hype on the Internet that they went back and did

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<v Speaker 1>five days of reshoots to reflect that hype, which is

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<v Speaker 1>like the level of insecurity that must require I can't conceive.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the time, I'm sure it made sense of

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<v Speaker 1>like because you know, in the mid two thousands, they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, if we you know, capitulate to fan desires,

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<v Speaker 1>this movie's going to do great. And that mentality happens

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<v Speaker 1>to this day. It's why the last Star Wars movie

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<v Speaker 1>was bad. I'm pretty sure, right, it's because people just like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, all the Star Wars people read Reddit boards

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, oh, let's just do that, and like,

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<v Speaker 1>but Snake's on a Plane is a great case study

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<v Speaker 1>that that does not work. But I just I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I really enjoyed learning about the fact that this movie exists.

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<v Speaker 1>I really, I mean there and it is an interesting

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<v Speaker 1>like it's really two thousand and six. It's just two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and six. Boy is it always good and bad?

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<v Speaker 1>And ways I can finally see after you know, doing

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<v Speaker 1>the show for a decade, I like, I can really

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<v Speaker 1>get into the meat of this right. And look, we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about this before we started recording. If the

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<v Speaker 1>goal of a movie is to be entertaining, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the best movie in the world, because there is not

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<v Speaker 1>a second where I wasn't like i' it really took

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<v Speaker 1>me back to I'm trying to remember. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was like Taken was the last time that I felt

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<v Speaker 1>like this watching a movie for the first time because

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<v Speaker 1>I was in but I was in a full theater.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw Taken when it came out.

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<v Speaker 2>Brag.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know where whenever something happened, you would just

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<v Speaker 1>be like what, like, you know, would you say you

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<v Speaker 1>were taken?

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<v Speaker 2>Aback?

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<v Speaker 1>I was taken in?

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<v Speaker 2>Were you snaken a back?

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<v Speaker 1>I was? I was snaken in? I was snaken the back?

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<v Speaker 1>I was snaken to another place?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you snake me higher?

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<v Speaker 1>You win?

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<v Speaker 2>You win, you win, that's you win. Remember that Creed

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<v Speaker 2>song I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh wow, now we're really in two thousand and six. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but like watching this at home on Peacock at one

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<v Speaker 1>am is how this movie is best watched outside of

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<v Speaker 1>in a full theater. In two thousand and six, I

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<v Speaker 1>had the best time watching this damn movie.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad to hear that. Because I was watching it,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh no, I I might owe Jamie

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<v Speaker 2>an apology for insisting not necessary do this. But I

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<v Speaker 2>was only doing it because because all the listeners again

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<v Speaker 2>demanded we we cover this. It had nothing to do

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<v Speaker 2>with my personal no desire to cover this.

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<v Speaker 1>No, absolutely not, and I but no, no, no, you

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<v Speaker 1>know I think that it's it was brave of you

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<v Speaker 1>to because I took some convincing. But I'm just I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so glad that we finally took the leap. What's your

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<v Speaker 1>history with Snakes a Plane?

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<v Speaker 2>I saw this movie in theaters jealous in two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and six. I went with my best friend at and

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<v Speaker 2>oh boy, we we just had quite a time, and

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<v Speaker 2>we had an even better time. I think with the

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<v Speaker 2>credits song the.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait tell me more, basically just.

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<v Speaker 2>That we would play it all the time, okay, and

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<v Speaker 2>kind of your I Frankensteed, Yeah, it might be. I

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<v Speaker 2>watched the video to the Cobra Starship song Oh my God,

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<v Speaker 2>that was written for this movie, and the song is

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<v Speaker 2>called Snakes on a Plane parentheses bring it. I think

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<v Speaker 2>I should know because I listened to it. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>but I just thought it was the best song of

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and six, and I watched the music video

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<v Speaker 2>on repeat. I also had like a crush everybody in

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<v Speaker 2>the video.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, what was the music video? Like I this is Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm out of my depth here.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I have not seen the to you

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure they start.

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<v Speaker 1>Playing music video? Should I pull it up?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Maybe it is. Basically I watch it's four members

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<v Speaker 2>of Cobra Starship.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, and what was their big was their big hit?

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<v Speaker 1>Good Girls Go Bad? Or Am I thinking of a

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<v Speaker 1>different I make them good?

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<v Speaker 2>Literally only know about this band in relation to this song.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm right. Oh, I kind of hate that. I'm right.

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<v Speaker 1>They Yeah, they did Good Girls Go Bad?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Okay, the music video is just the members of

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<v Speaker 2>the ban because I think there's been various members of

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<v Speaker 2>this musical group. The Ones featured in the music video

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<v Speaker 2>is Gabe Support of William Beckett of the Academy, is

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<v Speaker 2>Traviy McCoy of Jim Class Here.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, Travy McCoy. Yeah, sorry, I love Taving McCoy.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Maya iverson of the sounds. Not familiar with

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<v Speaker 2>that group, but anyway, it's like this amalgamation of different

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<v Speaker 2>musicians from different other bands.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I'm oh, so it's Cobra Starship is a supergroup.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I didn't. I don't know anything about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know anything about it either.

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<v Speaker 1>I just knew they were on like the Gossip Girl

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<v Speaker 1>sidetrack or something. Okay, so I'm watching it on mute

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Yeah, I'm getting the side part vibes, the

0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:38.440
<v Speaker 1>side part vibes, the wallet chains. Yeah, everyone's killing it. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>I love young Travy McCoy. I don't know anything about

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<v Speaker 1>him from the last fifteen years. Hopefully he is in

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<v Speaker 1>a bad person, but you know, with two thousand and six,

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<v Speaker 1>we just don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>We just simply we just don't know. Anyway. Wait, this

0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:53.280
<v Speaker 2>music video is fun and the song slaps so hard.

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<v Speaker 1>All the outfits are so ugly. Everyone, I mean It's

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<v Speaker 1>so wild looking back to it, because like, just this

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<v Speaker 1>whole decade is just full of some of the most rancid,

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<v Speaker 1>bizarro ways you could possibly dress up a person. I

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<v Speaker 1>look at pictures of myself in high school, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, why do I look older than I currently am?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I was wearing you know, like sensible vests, but

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<v Speaker 1>also like a push up bra that was like lying

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<v Speaker 1>to a degree that was absurd. Like I it was

0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:30.199
<v Speaker 1>I had like really overplugged eyebrows, but also yet a

0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:34.199
<v Speaker 1>sensible mother's haircut. I'm like, what is this? Like, what

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<v Speaker 1>is this? Why do I look forty five and yet

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<v Speaker 1>I'm you know, fifteen. It's bizarre.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a confusing time. Yeah, and all this to say,

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<v Speaker 2>I saw this, I would call it a cinematic masterpiece

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<v Speaker 2>in theaters and I really just felt the weight of it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've been carrying that weight around for and it's

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<v Speaker 2>time to following nineteen years.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time to you know, release.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, this episode's gonna be very cathartic. It's gonna finally

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<v Speaker 2>give me that chance to release, to release the venom

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<v Speaker 2>that has been coursing through my veins from this movie

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<v Speaker 2>for nineteen years.

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<v Speaker 1>Which in the movie I associate with Venom. Is that

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<v Speaker 1>horrible Eminem song that he did for the credits of

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<v Speaker 1>the movie Venom, a movie I haven't seen, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think that the end like like you with this song,

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<v Speaker 1>the end credit song by Eminem to Veminem is so

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<v Speaker 1>funny because it is eighty percent him being He goes

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<v Speaker 1>like venim meim met him, met him, and that's like

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<v Speaker 1>most of the song.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to listen to this.

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<v Speaker 1>It just cracks me up. It was on the radio

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<v Speaker 1>for forty five seconds because it was like one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most annoying because you know, and it's like an

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<v Speaker 1>Eminem He's like, look out because I'm gonna hit you.

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<v Speaker 1>Look out because I am scary. And then wait, the

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<v Speaker 1>most half assed song I've ever heard in my life

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<v Speaker 1>is great.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, consider this Eminem vmin M Venomon.

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<v Speaker 1>Vanomenamminemm venomin m Yeah, venomenon.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we can end the show now we figured

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<v Speaker 1>it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Goodbye.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, you have a kind of beautiful connection with

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<v Speaker 1>this movie, I would say, so it does seem like

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<v Speaker 1>you and JT. Artist snakes in a plane as me

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<v Speaker 1>and my friend Jake are to I Frankenstein in a way.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, have you rewatched it very much?

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<v Speaker 2>No? This that was my only time seeing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so I guess that's the difference. That's maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>difference since I've seen I forgot Sam probably twenty ten. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but this, I mean, I'm excited to talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>history of this movie, but it is such a dense

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<v Speaker 1>text that I feel like, you know, we should probably

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<v Speaker 1>just get into it. Get into it. Yeah. This movie

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<v Speaker 1>was also originally called Venom.

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<v Speaker 2>It was, and then it got changed to some like

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<v Speaker 2>clunky title like Pacific Airways Flight one twenty one, and

0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:09.840
<v Speaker 2>then Samuel L. Jackson demanded that they change it back

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<v Speaker 2>to Snakes on a Plane because that was the working title,

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<v Speaker 2>which was like, I love that, surely going to get changed,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he was like, no, you motherfuckers, change it

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<v Speaker 2>back to snakes on a Plane.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's also Samuel Jackson's uh not fault accomplishment that

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<v Speaker 1>this movie is are not PG. Thirteen because he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>there cannot be a single there can't be just one

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<v Speaker 1>fuck in this movie. Because I need to say this

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<v Speaker 1>line I love like I because the way I'd seen

0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:41.280
<v Speaker 1>this movie framed in I don't even know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even single out a specific moment, but it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is like a fun, campy kind of flop moment

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<v Speaker 1>for Sam Jackson. But when I heard him talk about it,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, he knows exactly what he's doing. And he

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<v Speaker 1>was just like, it's a B movie and it's fun. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And you're like yeah, and then you watch it and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, that's exactly what this is. This movie knows

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what it is. Yes, no one here thinks they're

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<v Speaker 1>in a better movie than they're in.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what you mean, because it's the best

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<v Speaker 2>movie ever made.

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<v Speaker 1>But they all think they're in Citizen Kane, and they are.

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<v Speaker 1>It's what I'm saying, Yes, yes, yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's take a quick break, a quick snake break.

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh scary, and we'll be right back. Okay, we're back

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<v Speaker 2>from our snake break, and here is the recap of

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<v Speaker 2>snakes on a plane. We open in Hawaii. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>dude riding around on a motocross bike and he comes

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<v Speaker 2>upon a man who's hanging upside down from a tree.

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<v Speaker 2>He's all bloodied, and some bad guy, including a famous mobster,

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<v Speaker 2>named Eddie kim Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I already have so much to say because this first scene,

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<v Speaker 1>I was already like, this is gonna be so such

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<v Speaker 1>an awesome movie to watch because it is the first

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<v Speaker 1>ten minutes well, I don't even know. The first five

0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:22.760
<v Speaker 1>minutes of this movie is just.

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<v Speaker 2>Motocross, motocross and surfing. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And you're like, and I guess the sort of

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<v Speaker 1>question is who is that. I was like, if this

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<v Speaker 1>is Sam Jackson, I'm gonna freak out. But it wasn't him.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually some guy who I will refer to throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the episode as not James Marston, because to me, it

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<v Speaker 1>is very clear that that was the vibe they were

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<v Speaker 1>going for. James Marsden and James Marson weirdly would have

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<v Speaker 1>been a good pick at this time for that role

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<v Speaker 1>because he was doing like some prestige supporting like you know, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you're the second in command to Sam Jackson, Like it

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<v Speaker 1>would have made sense for him. Maybe he read it

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<v Speaker 1>and was like no, no, he might.

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<v Speaker 2>Have read the script and he's like, this is actually

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<v Speaker 2>too good. I will not do it justice and I

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<v Speaker 2>should just step away.

0:23:10.560 --> 0:23:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I should give it to some Australian guy, which is

0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:17.359
<v Speaker 1>what happened. Yeah, but yeah, I don't know who can

0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:19.440
<v Speaker 1>account for what happened. I love that part of the

0:23:19.480 --> 0:23:21.800
<v Speaker 1>reason Sam Jackson did this movie is because he did

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<v Speaker 1>not read the script.

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<v Speaker 2>You agreed to it based on the title.

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<v Speaker 1>He did based on the title and the director who

0:23:28.400 --> 0:23:33.199
<v Speaker 1>did not end up directing it, So he kind of

0:23:33.240 --> 0:23:36.840
<v Speaker 1>got hoodwinked into doing this. But okay, the first scene,

0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:41.199
<v Speaker 1>the amount of expositional dialogue, which is like one of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite things to see in a B movie. I

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<v Speaker 1>watched the first the opening scene twice because, first of all,

0:23:48.160 --> 0:23:50.679
<v Speaker 1>this Australian actor Nathan Phillips. I don't know anything about him.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he's a nice guy. I'm not even sure

0:23:53.200 --> 0:23:55.480
<v Speaker 1>he's a nice guy, but he's a you know whatever.

0:23:55.920 --> 0:23:58.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't know a thing about him. But consistently throughout

0:23:58.880 --> 0:24:00.840
<v Speaker 1>this movie, I don't know if they this actor has

0:24:00.880 --> 0:24:05.840
<v Speaker 1>difficulty looking scared, but he never seems scared enough for me.

0:24:06.240 --> 0:24:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Like he sees a horrific like a guy falls from

0:24:09.440 --> 0:24:13.320
<v Speaker 1>a bridge and he goes like that is it, And

0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:17.679
<v Speaker 1>that's about like the peak of fear that this performance has.

0:24:18.000 --> 0:24:20.679
<v Speaker 1>But anyways, okay, Eddie Kim comes in, Eddie Kim, as

0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:22.800
<v Speaker 1>far as I'm concerned, batting a hundred oh yeah for

0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:26.040
<v Speaker 1>the few times we see him, the guy hanging from

0:24:26.080 --> 0:24:28.560
<v Speaker 1>the bridge upside down and says, fuck you, Eddie Kim.

0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:31.080
<v Speaker 1>You're always gonna want to address your assault or by

0:24:31.119 --> 0:24:35.000
<v Speaker 1>their full government name. Exactly, easy, great first line of

0:24:35.000 --> 0:24:38.240
<v Speaker 1>dialogue to the movie, fuck you, Eddie Kim. And then

0:24:38.359 --> 0:24:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Eddie Kim is going to match his energy and give

0:24:40.960 --> 0:24:46.040
<v Speaker 1>an absurd amount of exposition. He's gonna say, well, look

0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:50.480
<v Speaker 1>at you, mister prosecutor. Always important to say the job

0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:54.040
<v Speaker 1>of your victim as you're bullying them. Yes, he includes

0:24:54.320 --> 0:24:57.040
<v Speaker 1>more detail about him than is even relevant to his character.

0:24:57.280 --> 0:25:00.399
<v Speaker 1>Then again, I was raised by a single mom, and

0:25:00.440 --> 0:25:03.080
<v Speaker 1>I was like, now why do I know this? And

0:25:03.119 --> 0:25:06.520
<v Speaker 1>then and then clean this up. I'm going back to

0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:10.439
<v Speaker 1>la important to say where you're going. And then I

0:25:10.560 --> 0:25:12.760
<v Speaker 1>was like cracking up at that. And then we cut

0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:17.280
<v Speaker 1>to a news broadcast that repeats all of this information,

0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:21.200
<v Speaker 1>which was I was like, this movie has no faith

0:25:21.200 --> 0:25:24.080
<v Speaker 1>in the audience whatsoever. We cut to a news broadcast

0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:28.680
<v Speaker 1>that's like, last night, criminal Eddie Kim killed a prosecutor,

0:25:29.119 --> 0:25:34.440
<v Speaker 1>and now he's going back to la just like, yeah, okay.

0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Also, this thing with Eddie Kim played by an actor

0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:41.080
<v Speaker 2>named Brian Lawson. By the way, he was great.

0:25:41.480 --> 0:25:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I loved every second of him.

0:25:42.680 --> 0:25:47.719
<v Speaker 2>Amazing. In this world, Eddie Kim is the most famous person.

0:25:48.080 --> 0:25:52.320
<v Speaker 2>He is like a list celebrity. Everyone knows who this

0:25:52.400 --> 0:25:57.960
<v Speaker 2>mobster is. He is world renowned. Anytime someone says, oh, yeah,

0:25:58.080 --> 0:26:01.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm testifying against Eddie Kim, they're like, oh my god,

0:26:01.359 --> 0:26:05.000
<v Speaker 2>I know exactly who that is, and that's so scary.

0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:08.080
<v Speaker 1>The two celebrities in this world are Eddie Kim and

0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:14.120
<v Speaker 1>three G's Three G's Yeah, not three G's, poor three G's.

0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:18.080
<v Speaker 1>I like the actor who had to play him. I mean, yeah, yes,

0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:22.640
<v Speaker 1>the germophobic rapper three G's, which is a fun concept.

0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:26.080
<v Speaker 1>But we'll circle back to.

0:26:25.920 --> 0:26:28.320
<v Speaker 2>Three G's get there. For now, we're on Eddie Kim.

0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:32.320
<v Speaker 2>He shows up to kill mister Prosecutor, who I guess

0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:36.400
<v Speaker 2>was like trying to take down Eddie Kim and his associates.

0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:39.399
<v Speaker 1>But then again, Eddie Kim was raised by a single mom.

0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, okay, So Eddiekim kills the prosecutor. The motocross

0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:50.199
<v Speaker 2>dude his name is Sean played by Nathan Phillips. He

0:26:50.280 --> 0:26:55.359
<v Speaker 2>witnesses this, and so he bails by running away on

0:26:55.400 --> 0:27:00.720
<v Speaker 2>his very noisy motorcycle that all the other mobsters notice.

0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:05.360
<v Speaker 2>So they the minions, Sorry is how I should address them.

0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Eddie Kim's minions go looking for Sean and they're about

0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:11.880
<v Speaker 2>to break into his apartment, and.

0:27:11.800 --> 0:27:15.639
<v Speaker 1>He was again is really failing to look appropriately afraid

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:18.639
<v Speaker 1>of what's happening to him. He's just again like I

0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:20.760
<v Speaker 1>kept I kept putting the movie because I was watching

0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:22.800
<v Speaker 1>it with Grant last night, and I kept putting the

0:27:22.920 --> 0:27:25.920
<v Speaker 1>movie on mute and try to like score this guy's

0:27:25.960 --> 0:27:27.959
<v Speaker 1>performance because if you put it on mute and you

0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:32.399
<v Speaker 1>just make the hand like that's that's what he's evoking. Yeah,

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:36.320
<v Speaker 1>there's literally armed hitman at his door, and he's like ah,

0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:39.879
<v Speaker 1>oh no, oh no, doesn't move away from the door,

0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:43.679
<v Speaker 1>just keeps looking through the keyhole. I'm like, yeah, fella,

0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:44.879
<v Speaker 1>you're in trouble.

0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:50.439
<v Speaker 2>It's interesting. Yeah, So he does try to eventually like

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:55.920
<v Speaker 2>get out of his apartment when who appears but FBI

0:27:56.080 --> 0:28:01.560
<v Speaker 2>agent Neville Flynn played by Samuel L. Jackson, and we're like, yes,

0:28:02.840 --> 0:28:07.200
<v Speaker 2>he rescues Sean and brings him in for questioning and

0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:11.359
<v Speaker 2>tells Sean that he needs to fly to LA to

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:15.160
<v Speaker 2>testify against Eddie Kim so that they can throw him

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:19.240
<v Speaker 2>in jail. And Sean's like, I don't know, sounds dangerous.

0:28:19.280 --> 0:28:24.040
<v Speaker 2>There might be snakes on the plane from Hawaii to LA.

0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:27.159
<v Speaker 1>And they're like, hmm, no, that would never happen.

0:28:27.200 --> 0:28:29.719
<v Speaker 2>That would never in a million years.

0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:30.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:34.240
<v Speaker 2>So we cut to the Honolulu airport. Several passengers are

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:38.040
<v Speaker 2>waiting to board a plane that may or may not

0:28:38.120 --> 0:28:42.880
<v Speaker 2>have snakes on it. Passengers include a rapper named three G's.

0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:46.160
<v Speaker 1>This reminded me so much of have you I forget?

0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:49.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna make us do it for my birthday month

0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:53.240
<v Speaker 1>if I remember. But have you seen Old.

0:28:54.880 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 2>Old No? I still have not.

0:28:57.920 --> 0:29:03.120
<v Speaker 1>There's a I would say worst written famous rapper character

0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:04.200
<v Speaker 1>in that movie.

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 2>Sure.

0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:10.840
<v Speaker 1>The character's name is mid Size Sedan. Oh my gosh,

0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:13.840
<v Speaker 1>I remember, yes, And he is not a rapper with germophobia.

0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:17.840
<v Speaker 1>He's a rapper with hemophilia. And so you can see

0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 1>how like cinema INFLUENCEDS cinema. And I just thought that

0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:24.959
<v Speaker 1>that would be an important thing to point out. But

0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 1>I was, you know, just a really broadly poorly written

0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:32.600
<v Speaker 1>rap character by the least cool man, and I mean

0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:35.120
<v Speaker 1>not to knock am my child. I love that he's

0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 1>done cool, but someone who is not qualified to write

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 1>a cool rapper character and then is like, no, no,

0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 1>this makes sense and gives you know, just the most

0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:48.600
<v Speaker 1>half assed I mean, mid sized sedan is more half

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:51.320
<v Speaker 1>ass than three g's, but three g's is pretty bad.

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:55.880
<v Speaker 2>He wrote a song that seems to be about making

0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:57.640
<v Speaker 2>that bootygo thump.

0:29:58.120 --> 0:29:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh, booty go thump.

0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 2>Of course, bootygo thump, and I respect him for it.

0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:08.560
<v Speaker 1>I just you can just like hear the two like.

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:11.880
<v Speaker 1>I was actually surprised that the men who wrote this

0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:15.000
<v Speaker 1>movie were younger than I thought. They're in their early thirties.

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:18.720
<v Speaker 1>I was like, then, why does this dialogue so like they?

0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:22.840
<v Speaker 1>When three gus is introduced, and also Keenan Thompson is

0:30:23.120 --> 0:30:27.920
<v Speaker 1>one of his longtime friends Slash Security detail, they call

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:30.880
<v Speaker 1>him like the Howard Hughes of rap, and I'm like,

0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:35.080
<v Speaker 1>who is that line for? I don't like that's that

0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:37.360
<v Speaker 1>line is for a very old man, Like why are

0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 1>they saying that? Unless unless I am mistaken? And young

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:45.120
<v Speaker 1>people in two thousand and six would have been referencing

0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Howard Hughes right and Left. It was just really I

0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 1>was like, who wrote this damn movie? But it was

0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:52.720
<v Speaker 1>like fairly I mean, you know who knows who punched

0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:54.680
<v Speaker 1>it up? Maybe it was like a senior I mean,

0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:58.800
<v Speaker 1>with all due respect, a senior citizen was like, bring

0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 1>up Howard Hughes. The people love Howard Hughes.

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:06.680
<v Speaker 2>Here's my theory. The Keenan Thompson character whose name is Troy,

0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 2>I believe his favorite movie is The Aviator. So he's

0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:14.240
<v Speaker 2>just like watching The Aviator right and left. He knows

0:31:14.280 --> 0:31:19.360
<v Speaker 2>all about Howard Hughes, and he's he's just making references

0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:20.480
<v Speaker 2>to that whenever he can.

0:31:20.760 --> 0:31:22.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I mean that is true, he is the Aviator.

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:25.120
<v Speaker 1>But like I was trying to learn about the screenwriters

0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:27.320
<v Speaker 1>of this movie, one is quite easy to learn about

0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:31.760
<v Speaker 1>Sebastian Gutierres, who would have been He's written movies too,

0:31:32.200 --> 0:31:38.840
<v Speaker 1>mostly not loved movies like gothaka Snake's claim. In any case,

0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:41.080
<v Speaker 1>he was fairly young. I mean he was in his

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 1>like And also he's married to Carla Guzino, who is

0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:47.360
<v Speaker 1>amazing Wait.

0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:51.160
<v Speaker 2>From Spy Kids. Yes, wait, Also I just realized, so

0:31:51.240 --> 0:31:54.320
<v Speaker 2>The Aviator, Yeah, Keenan Thompson.

0:31:56.680 --> 0:31:59.680
<v Speaker 1>He's not in that right, No, no, no, but okay.

0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:03.920
<v Speaker 2>His whole thing is that later he flies the plane.

0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:05.960
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, I thought that was what you

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:08.560
<v Speaker 1>were saying, That that was I planned and payoff that

0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:10.640
<v Speaker 1>he knows about aviation. But then the twist is he

0:32:10.680 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 1>actually doesn't.

0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:14.680
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't. We'll get there, but no, the joke I

0:32:14.720 --> 0:32:16.680
<v Speaker 2>was trying to make is that The Aviator is about

0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:21.160
<v Speaker 2>Howard Hughes. So that's why he's like dropping that specific reference. Yeah,

0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:24.959
<v Speaker 2>you know, that's why this text is so deep and

0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:26.760
<v Speaker 2>heavy and difficult to talk about.

0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:30.920
<v Speaker 1>We can't pretend to have the answers. No, but Sebastian

0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Gutierrez he is a Venezuelan writer director and he was

0:32:36.400 --> 0:32:39.400
<v Speaker 1>in his early thirties when this came out. Like, the

0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:41.480
<v Speaker 1>Howard Hughes line is not clocking for me from him.

0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:45.000
<v Speaker 1>The other writer is John Heffernan, but it's hard. I

0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:47.520
<v Speaker 1>know that he passed away in twenty seventeen, but I

0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:49.280
<v Speaker 1>don't know when he was born. And this is the

0:32:49.280 --> 0:32:53.600
<v Speaker 1>only movie he ever worked on. Wow, which is kind

0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:57.360
<v Speaker 1>of interesting. There's another story by credit, and this is

0:32:57.400 --> 0:33:04.160
<v Speaker 1>pretty cool to David Dallassandro, who was Caitlin Connection University

0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:09.920
<v Speaker 1>of Pittsburgh administrator and first time writer. But he started

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:13.400
<v Speaker 1>developing this concept in nineteen ninety two, so it's also

0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:18.520
<v Speaker 1>very unclear how old he is. We just don't know.

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:21.480
<v Speaker 1>It is wild to think that Snake's in a Plane

0:33:21.640 --> 0:33:25.440
<v Speaker 1>has been in development, was in development at least at

0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:27.440
<v Speaker 1>that point, at least as long as I had been alive,

0:33:29.320 --> 0:33:32.720
<v Speaker 1>because I would never have guessed it's giving thrown together

0:33:32.760 --> 0:33:35.640
<v Speaker 1>in six weeks. But it was actually a long.

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:39.880
<v Speaker 2>Time anyways, That's how long it takes to write a masterpiece.

0:33:41.040 --> 0:33:44.600
<v Speaker 2>In any case, We've met three g's, the rapper and

0:33:44.720 --> 0:33:50.080
<v Speaker 2>his entourage to bodyguards, one of whom is Keenan Thompson,

0:33:50.880 --> 0:33:54.840
<v Speaker 2>one of whom is another guy we meet them. We

0:33:54.880 --> 0:34:00.600
<v Speaker 2>meet Mercedes played by Rachel Blanchard, who I recognize Flight

0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:01.680
<v Speaker 2>to the Concords.

0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:05.240
<v Speaker 1>I recognize her from Peep Show. Okay, she's uh yeah,

0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:07.680
<v Speaker 1>she is above this. But I have to feel like

0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:12.359
<v Speaker 1>the comedy actors, the comedy character actors we see in this,

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:15.640
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I have to be in on the joke,

0:34:15.800 --> 0:34:21.239
<v Speaker 1>especially David ken Love, and he really makes a meal

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:21.960
<v Speaker 1>of the.

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:23.640
<v Speaker 2>Part of Rick Oh yeah.

0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:24.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:27.279
<v Speaker 2>His whole character is he loves to sexually harass the

0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:28.719
<v Speaker 2>flight attendants.

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:32.399
<v Speaker 1>And that is literally his Nevertheless, he persisted moments where

0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:34.319
<v Speaker 1>he's on the verge of death, but he's like, but

0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:37.480
<v Speaker 1>even on the verge of death, I can still sexually

0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:41.920
<v Speaker 1>harass my coworker and you're like, wow, question.

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:48.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So he's there. Mercedes is there with her little dog.

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:52.319
<v Speaker 1>Which because there was I'm so sorry there, but I

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:55.399
<v Speaker 1>feel like every horror movie during this era had a

0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Paris Hilton insert parody character, and that is yes, yeah.

0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:03.680
<v Speaker 2>She's there with her dog. There's a very rude British man.

0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:06.760
<v Speaker 2>He'll get his come upance, don't you worry.

0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Julian Margley's zionist piece of shit is in the chat

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:16.799
<v Speaker 1>as well, but she's brunette, so she's gonna make it right.

0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:22.040
<v Speaker 2>She's one of the flight attendants along with Tiffany. There

0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:26.680
<v Speaker 2>is a queer coded flight attendant, a man named Ken,

0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:31.399
<v Speaker 2>and then there's also an older woman named Grace. Those

0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:34.040
<v Speaker 2>are all the flight attendants. We also meet the co

0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:39.120
<v Speaker 2>pilot Rick played by David Keckner. There's a couple on

0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:42.840
<v Speaker 2>their honeymoon. There's a different couple who are very horny

0:35:42.880 --> 0:35:45.560
<v Speaker 2>for each other. There's a young mother with a baby.

0:35:46.239 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 2>There are two kids, brothers who are flying alone without

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:52.440
<v Speaker 2>their parents, and I.

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:54.200
<v Speaker 1>Love that they go out of their way to be

0:35:54.320 --> 0:35:58.640
<v Speaker 1>like and not just any parents. A soldier, You're.

0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:02.279
<v Speaker 2>Like, Okay, who was on the plane? How was he

0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:04.919
<v Speaker 2>allowed to be on the plane? And then I guess

0:36:04.960 --> 0:36:07.839
<v Speaker 2>he got off before the flight took off.

0:36:08.160 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Like, I think that a lot of the a lot

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:13.680
<v Speaker 1>of I mean this movie, being on a plane is

0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:17.879
<v Speaker 1>very inconsistent, I think because there's scenes that literally look

0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 1>ripped off from Titanic, people trying to get up a staircase,

0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:22.680
<v Speaker 1>which planes famously don't usually have.

0:36:23.520 --> 0:36:28.040
<v Speaker 2>There I think are some like really fancy ones that

0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:30.160
<v Speaker 2>have like the first class. I've never been on a

0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:30.719
<v Speaker 2>plane like that.

0:36:30.840 --> 0:36:32.480
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I had to google it. I was like,

0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 1>is this made up? But like I really. Something I

0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:38.719
<v Speaker 1>thought was interesting about this movie is that once you

0:36:38.800 --> 0:36:40.719
<v Speaker 1>know how long it was in development, it makes sense

0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:44.800
<v Speaker 1>because clearly some plots of this are about plane travel

0:36:44.960 --> 0:36:49.800
<v Speaker 1>ostensibly before nine to eleven, and many are about after

0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:53.480
<v Speaker 1>nine eleven. And they're also kind of lifting I think

0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:57.120
<v Speaker 1>from Lost, which was like the most popular show on

0:36:57.200 --> 0:37:00.800
<v Speaker 1>TV at this time, and I feel like Lost without

0:37:00.920 --> 0:37:04.240
<v Speaker 1>being overly like dismiss it, but like, I think Lost

0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:06.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of ripped the band aid off culturally of like

0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:11.080
<v Speaker 1>we can have horror about planes again. Because after nine

0:37:11.120 --> 0:37:13.400
<v Speaker 1>to eleven, obviously this was something that was avoided. A

0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of movies were significantly adjusted, including two thousand and

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:20.839
<v Speaker 1>two is Lilo and Stitch right in order to avoid

0:37:21.440 --> 0:37:26.160
<v Speaker 1>themes of plane crashes and peril on planes. For several

0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:29.200
<v Speaker 1>years that didn't appear in media. But then when Lost

0:37:29.239 --> 0:37:31.560
<v Speaker 1>came out, all of a sudden, it's like, and we're back.

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:33.759
<v Speaker 1>But I think a lot of the characters. And I

0:37:33.800 --> 0:37:36.200
<v Speaker 1>say this because I just watched all of Lost and

0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:39.440
<v Speaker 1>got really obsessed, and I'm looking at my Lost toys

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:40.680
<v Speaker 1>with my eyeballs right now.

0:37:40.800 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 2>You have Lost toys.

0:37:42.520 --> 0:37:48.040
<v Speaker 1>I see those, you know those? My niece loves them,

0:37:48.080 --> 0:37:51.920
<v Speaker 1>like little Fisher Price little People toys. They made a

0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:55.320
<v Speaker 1>collector's Lost set and it's literally just baby Lost.

0:37:56.680 --> 0:37:58.400
<v Speaker 2>Uh huh, it's cute.

0:37:58.400 --> 0:38:02.839
<v Speaker 1>I have Baby Hurley here, Baby Jack, Baby Kate, and

0:38:02.880 --> 0:38:06.759
<v Speaker 1>of course baby John Locke, my favorite character. Anyways, this

0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:08.879
<v Speaker 1>was a very popular I was trying to like contextualize

0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:12.320
<v Speaker 1>why did this movie happen in this way. Yeah, but anyways,

0:38:12.440 --> 0:38:14.400
<v Speaker 1>nineteen I feel like the part of this movie that

0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:17.840
<v Speaker 1>was developed before nine to eleven had a soldier getting

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:20.279
<v Speaker 1>all the way onto the plane with his children, because

0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:24.200
<v Speaker 1>that would never have happened after nine to eleven, right,

0:38:24.400 --> 0:38:26.960
<v Speaker 1>But then a lot of the I just thought that,

0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:29.560
<v Speaker 1>especially the character of the blonde woman with the baby,

0:38:29.960 --> 0:38:33.960
<v Speaker 1>felt very lifted from That's like Claire from Lost. There

0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:37.200
<v Speaker 1>are a few characters that are insert here from Lost

0:38:37.400 --> 0:38:40.600
<v Speaker 1>to me. Yeah, but maybe I'm projecting. It's not like

0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:43.080
<v Speaker 1>Lost invented blonde single mothers.

0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:47.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember that character Unlost having a baby.

0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:51.319
<v Speaker 1>He was important Aaron Aaron the baby and then the

0:38:51.400 --> 0:38:54.920
<v Speaker 1>others stole erin and then Dominic Monaghan had to go

0:38:54.960 --> 0:38:55.600
<v Speaker 1>save the baby.

0:38:55.800 --> 0:38:58.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh, because he had a crush on Claire. Is that

0:38:58.280 --> 0:38:59.360
<v Speaker 2>her name on Clare?

0:38:59.760 --> 0:39:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's how she said her name. She's Australian, right

0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:03.719
<v Speaker 1>she was?

0:39:03.840 --> 0:39:07.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay? Was she the one who was like the sister

0:39:07.800 --> 0:39:10.560
<v Speaker 2>to the Ian summerholder character or is that a different

0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:11.440
<v Speaker 2>pairing of people.

0:39:11.480 --> 0:39:14.959
<v Speaker 1>No, that's the other blonde. This is the thing talking

0:39:15.000 --> 0:39:18.160
<v Speaker 1>about of me? No, No, this is a This is

0:39:18.200 --> 0:39:21.279
<v Speaker 1>a and it's nothing against the actors. But this is like,

0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:25.400
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, watching movies from really most times. But

0:39:25.440 --> 0:39:30.000
<v Speaker 1>the number of blondes in this movie is quite staggering,

0:39:30.360 --> 0:39:34.200
<v Speaker 1>and also the like horror movie tropes associated with the blondes,

0:39:34.520 --> 0:39:37.919
<v Speaker 1>there's no subversion in this movie whatsoever. Juliana mark Leaz

0:39:38.000 --> 0:39:42.240
<v Speaker 1>is our singular white brunette, and white being an important

0:39:42.320 --> 0:39:45.520
<v Speaker 1>qualifier in that case, and therefore she's the only one

0:39:45.520 --> 0:39:49.760
<v Speaker 1>with a functioning brain, and all of the blonde women

0:39:49.920 --> 0:39:53.960
<v Speaker 1>are going to be variously damseled or slut shamed to

0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:56.680
<v Speaker 1>the point where we'll get there. But I just thought

0:39:56.680 --> 0:39:59.600
<v Speaker 1>it was I had to like pause the movie and

0:39:59.640 --> 0:40:04.920
<v Speaker 1>explain it to my fiance's my fiance, because that's what

0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:07.440
<v Speaker 1>should happen in more straight couples. Women should be explaining

0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:09.600
<v Speaker 1>movies to the men exactly. But I just thought it

0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:11.440
<v Speaker 1>was wild that we were introduced to so many blondes.

0:40:11.520 --> 0:40:14.720
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Okay, I'm going to assume the mother

0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:19.240
<v Speaker 1>will live, because being a mother is considered by films

0:40:19.280 --> 0:40:23.480
<v Speaker 1>to be worthy of life. Right, I'm gonna assume mother

0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:26.160
<v Speaker 1>and baby are gonna live. I'm going to assume the

0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:30.680
<v Speaker 1>woman who is Juliana Marglaz's friend who's wearing a skirt

0:40:30.760 --> 0:40:33.640
<v Speaker 1>shorter than Julianna Margallay's is going to be in peril.

0:40:34.040 --> 0:40:36.839
<v Speaker 1>Will either die or then get a boyfriend and live.

0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:38.920
<v Speaker 2>That's the tiffanyru You're being validated.

0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:42.319
<v Speaker 1>By a man. Tiffany, I'm assuming anyone over forty will die.

0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:46.759
<v Speaker 1>But but then the first woman who dies is the blondest,

0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:51.319
<v Speaker 1>most skimpily clad, horny person on the planet. Yeah, so

0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:53.840
<v Speaker 1>they're like, we need to find the blondest woman alive

0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:57.160
<v Speaker 1>and then kill her, kill her via a nipple butt.

0:40:57.239 --> 0:41:01.200
<v Speaker 1>It was just wild. Anyways, what's happening in the movie?

0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:03.880
<v Speaker 1>I just I'll tell you. He is a very rich text.

0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:08.520
<v Speaker 2>It's so rich. So we've met most of the cast. Meanwhile,

0:41:08.560 --> 0:41:13.080
<v Speaker 2>in the cargo hold, there is a man, a bad boy,

0:41:13.360 --> 0:41:17.960
<v Speaker 2>a minion of famous mobster Eddie Kim, and he's spraying

0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:21.040
<v Speaker 2>this box of lays, not the.

0:41:21.040 --> 0:41:23.120
<v Speaker 1>Chips, the flower.

0:41:22.800 --> 0:41:28.040
<v Speaker 2>Necklasts, the flower, yes exactly, And he's saying, these pheromones

0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:31.600
<v Speaker 2>are gonna make these guys go crazy. And we're like,

0:41:31.880 --> 0:41:34.239
<v Speaker 2>these guys, do you mean the snakes that are on

0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:38.640
<v Speaker 2>the plane and he and that's what he means. Yeah.

0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:44.120
<v Speaker 2>The flight starts boarding with Sean and Agent Flynn and

0:41:44.239 --> 0:41:48.720
<v Speaker 2>another FBI guy, agent Sanders. I think I couldn't figure

0:41:48.719 --> 0:41:49.600
<v Speaker 2>out who that was.

0:41:49.800 --> 0:41:51.600
<v Speaker 1>All I know about him is that, like he is

0:41:52.239 --> 0:41:55.120
<v Speaker 1>Sam Jackson's friend, and he's also divorced, and that is

0:41:55.160 --> 0:41:58.480
<v Speaker 1>what bonds them as adult man. Like they're like, we're both.

0:41:58.320 --> 0:41:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Divorced, they're both bad partner.

0:42:00.160 --> 0:42:03.719
<v Speaker 1>I die for him. You're like, okay, whatever, maybe that's

0:42:03.719 --> 0:42:07.960
<v Speaker 1>not that make friends. I don't know, no idea.

0:42:08.200 --> 0:42:09.880
<v Speaker 2>So the three of them are the only people in

0:42:09.920 --> 0:42:13.800
<v Speaker 2>first class since like whatever, Sean has to be protected

0:42:13.920 --> 0:42:18.200
<v Speaker 2>or something, and so everyone else has to be moved

0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:22.040
<v Speaker 2>to coach. They've all been given a lay that was

0:42:22.680 --> 0:42:28.759
<v Speaker 2>riddled with snake pheromones, even though those lays were in

0:42:28.800 --> 0:42:31.560
<v Speaker 2>the cargo hole. But now when they're being given them,

0:42:31.600 --> 0:42:34.240
<v Speaker 2>like as they board the plane, they're in the airport.

0:42:35.520 --> 0:42:39.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, uh so there's some This is not going to

0:42:39.520 --> 0:42:44.320
<v Speaker 3>pass a basic snuff test of logic, which is fine

0:42:44.360 --> 0:42:48.080
<v Speaker 3>for a B movie, but the specific examples are very funny.

0:42:48.280 --> 0:42:52.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if B movie stands for beautiful, brilliant.

0:42:52.160 --> 0:42:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Beautiful movie movie. My favorite bizarro plot hole is mid

0:42:58.040 --> 0:43:02.360
<v Speaker 1>plane crash in two thousands six. Sam Jackson is able

0:43:02.360 --> 0:43:06.319
<v Speaker 1>to send a high resolution photo via email from his

0:43:06.640 --> 0:43:10.800
<v Speaker 1>slip phone. Yeah, I love movie.

0:43:12.040 --> 0:43:15.000
<v Speaker 2>That was awesome. Yeah it was great. Okay, So the

0:43:15.040 --> 0:43:19.200
<v Speaker 2>flight takes off and after a short while, a mechanism

0:43:19.719 --> 0:43:23.760
<v Speaker 2>is triggered in the cargo hold once the plane reaches

0:43:23.760 --> 0:43:26.320
<v Speaker 2>an altitude of thirty five thousand feet. So I reminded

0:43:26.320 --> 0:43:30.080
<v Speaker 2>me of speed where oh the bus goes fifty miles

0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:33.320
<v Speaker 2>an hour that you know, triggers the bomb whatever.

0:43:34.120 --> 0:43:36.400
<v Speaker 1>So this triggers the snakes.

0:43:36.760 --> 0:43:39.960
<v Speaker 2>This one triggers the snakes, and so a whole slew

0:43:40.040 --> 0:43:46.640
<v Speaker 2>of snakes on the plane starts slithering out from somewhere. Meanwhile,

0:43:46.760 --> 0:43:49.920
<v Speaker 2>back in the cabin of the plane, everyone is horny.

0:43:50.320 --> 0:43:54.960
<v Speaker 2>We got three G's and Mercedes flirting. We've got the

0:43:55.040 --> 0:43:58.280
<v Speaker 2>horny couple going into the bathroom to have sex, something

0:43:58.320 --> 0:44:02.240
<v Speaker 2>that the flight attendants think is awesome. They're like, who

0:44:02.400 --> 0:44:02.719
<v Speaker 2>you go.

0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Girl, which I was like, I uh, you know, I've

0:44:06.040 --> 0:44:07.879
<v Speaker 1>never worked as a flight attendant. I have one friend

0:44:07.880 --> 0:44:09.480
<v Speaker 1>who's a flight attendant. But that would have been like

0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:12.000
<v Speaker 1>a weird text descent to be like, do you guys

0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:12.600
<v Speaker 1>love when people?

0:44:13.200 --> 0:44:14.960
<v Speaker 2>I think I think they don't love it at all.

0:44:15.000 --> 0:44:17.680
<v Speaker 1>I would I think it's safe to assume, absolutely not.

0:44:18.120 --> 0:44:21.360
<v Speaker 2>And I think it's probably illegal to have sex in

0:44:21.400 --> 0:44:23.000
<v Speaker 2>the bathroom of all plane.

0:44:23.440 --> 0:44:26.320
<v Speaker 1>Sure, But also I'm thinking, if I'm a flight attendant,

0:44:26.360 --> 0:44:28.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, unless it's posing a danger, I'm not going

0:44:28.440 --> 0:44:30.800
<v Speaker 1>to file a report, Like just please.

0:44:30.600 --> 0:44:32.640
<v Speaker 2>Get out of the bathroom. I don't know what I

0:44:32.680 --> 0:44:35.120
<v Speaker 2>would do in that situation, but you know, suffice it

0:44:35.160 --> 0:44:38.719
<v Speaker 2>to say that these flight attendants love so.

0:44:38.920 --> 0:44:40.920
<v Speaker 1>The Mile High Club. If you're if your goal is

0:44:40.960 --> 0:44:43.960
<v Speaker 1>to join the Mile High Club, like you know, grow up,

0:44:44.560 --> 0:44:48.920
<v Speaker 1>grow yeah, get a you know, dream bige, come on, okay,

0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:53.120
<v Speaker 1>so grow up, get them Okay.

0:44:53.239 --> 0:44:58.520
<v Speaker 2>So everyone's horny and they're releasing pheromones of their own. Yeah,

0:44:58.640 --> 0:45:01.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it affects the snakes are not.

0:45:01.239 --> 0:45:04.799
<v Speaker 1>But also as a young Taylor Kitsch is the guy

0:45:04.920 --> 0:45:10.279
<v Speaker 1>who I who's that didn't recognize? Well, thankfully I had

0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:11.920
<v Speaker 1>a man in the house to tell me he was

0:45:11.960 --> 0:45:15.719
<v Speaker 1>in Friday Night Lights, which I never would have known,

0:45:15.719 --> 0:45:18.319
<v Speaker 1>and he was also in a True Detective season two.

0:45:18.320 --> 0:45:20.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's a pretty famous actor, but this is

0:45:20.280 --> 0:45:23.520
<v Speaker 1>like I think one of his early roles as like

0:45:23.719 --> 0:45:25.319
<v Speaker 1>he was also in John Tucker Must Die.

0:45:25.320 --> 0:45:25.640
<v Speaker 2>This year.

0:45:25.640 --> 0:45:27.200
<v Speaker 1>I think he had had to sort of serve in

0:45:27.239 --> 0:45:30.640
<v Speaker 1>the trenches of himbo roles before he got real actor roles.

0:45:30.880 --> 0:45:32.200
<v Speaker 2>I see, okay, and.

0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Good for him, But do I care?

0:45:34.440 --> 0:45:39.839
<v Speaker 2>No? No, Okay, So we got all these CGI snakes

0:45:40.040 --> 0:45:45.120
<v Speaker 2>slithering through the plane. We are seeing things sometimes through

0:45:45.200 --> 0:45:48.920
<v Speaker 2>their green snake eye vision, which which.

0:45:48.800 --> 0:45:51.000
<v Speaker 1>I did not fact check, but it literally looks like,

0:45:51.480 --> 0:45:54.520
<v Speaker 1>oh does snakes look like a snake vision? Like also

0:45:54.880 --> 0:45:58.480
<v Speaker 1>looking through a gun like it like like infrared a

0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:03.200
<v Speaker 1>sniper like. Maybe I didn't look it up because I

0:46:03.239 --> 0:46:04.960
<v Speaker 1>assumed the movie didn't look it up.

0:46:05.520 --> 0:46:09.120
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know the movie didn't look up anything. Yeah,

0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:13.760
<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah, Okay, So there's like an enormous number

0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:18.279
<v Speaker 2>of snakes slithering throughout the plane. No one notices that

0:46:18.320 --> 0:46:21.520
<v Speaker 2>they're right there, They're under their feet, they're in their purses,

0:46:21.520 --> 0:46:23.360
<v Speaker 2>they're going up a lady's dress.

0:46:23.880 --> 0:46:27.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, in their defense, the snakes are computer giants. So

0:46:28.160 --> 0:46:30.680
<v Speaker 1>the actors made, you know, I think the actors I

0:46:30.760 --> 0:46:32.600
<v Speaker 1>made to be looking about like they're doing a bad

0:46:32.680 --> 0:46:34.680
<v Speaker 1>job when they in fact were just never told where

0:46:34.680 --> 0:46:38.680
<v Speaker 1>the CGI snakes are going to be, right, I fully

0:46:38.719 --> 0:46:41.680
<v Speaker 1>believe there's full sequences where they're like, just be asleep

0:46:41.680 --> 0:46:44.240
<v Speaker 1>on the plane. And then they added a CGI snake

0:46:44.560 --> 0:46:47.160
<v Speaker 1>sexually assaulting you, and there's no reaction from the actor,

0:46:47.920 --> 0:46:50.040
<v Speaker 1>just and we'll get back to her because she's done

0:46:50.040 --> 0:46:51.720
<v Speaker 1>as severe injustice truly.

0:46:51.800 --> 0:46:56.720
<v Speaker 2>Anyways, Yes, So then a snake who's on the plane

0:46:56.800 --> 0:47:00.760
<v Speaker 2>attacks the horny couple that are having sex in the bathroom.

0:47:01.400 --> 0:47:04.200
<v Speaker 2>Another snake on the plane comes out of a toilet

0:47:04.239 --> 0:47:08.759
<v Speaker 2>of a different bathroom and bites a man's penis.

0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Now, this is I've seen a lot of criticism around

0:47:12.040 --> 0:47:13.640
<v Speaker 1>this food and I don't know where to fall on it,

0:47:13.719 --> 0:47:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Like where this is like one of the first movies

0:47:15.880 --> 0:47:22.439
<v Speaker 1>that was really influenced by Internet humor. But I see,

0:47:22.480 --> 0:47:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I personally find out to be a stretch because B

0:47:24.680 --> 0:47:28.360
<v Speaker 1>movies have always been kind of influenced by lowest common

0:47:28.400 --> 0:47:31.240
<v Speaker 1>denominator kind of oh for sure. So I wasn't bothered

0:47:31.239 --> 0:47:36.640
<v Speaker 1>by it, but I did. The early kills in this

0:47:36.680 --> 0:47:40.040
<v Speaker 1>movie are really going for it. I mean the like

0:47:40.160 --> 0:47:43.000
<v Speaker 1>the blondest woman in the world being sexualized to the

0:47:43.200 --> 0:47:46.880
<v Speaker 1>absurdist degree that they could do without the movie being rated.

0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:50.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, NC seventeen. You know, she is punished for

0:47:50.680 --> 0:47:54.200
<v Speaker 1>being for having sex by a snake bite to the nipple,

0:47:54.680 --> 0:47:58.279
<v Speaker 1>and then cut to the guy takes his dick out

0:47:58.320 --> 0:48:01.920
<v Speaker 1>to pee and for those you know with penises, please

0:48:02.040 --> 0:48:04.600
<v Speaker 1>sound off in the chat. Do you also say how's

0:48:04.680 --> 0:48:09.760
<v Speaker 1>my big boy when you start to take a leak?

0:48:10.560 --> 0:48:14.440
<v Speaker 1>Because I thought that was delightful. I thought that was

0:48:14.480 --> 0:48:17.000
<v Speaker 1>so funny, as I grant you should start doing that

0:48:17.719 --> 0:48:20.360
<v Speaker 1>snake's in the toilet snake. Also, I noticed, unless it

0:48:20.400 --> 0:48:22.920
<v Speaker 1>was a computer, Glitch seemed to drink a little bit

0:48:22.920 --> 0:48:24.000
<v Speaker 1>of his piss.

0:48:25.480 --> 0:48:28.879
<v Speaker 2>Did not notice that I think he did.

0:48:29.120 --> 0:48:31.760
<v Speaker 1>And then he jumps on and then he says, fucking bitch,

0:48:31.800 --> 0:48:34.680
<v Speaker 1>get off my dick. Is what he says to the

0:48:34.840 --> 0:48:36.359
<v Speaker 1>snake that's killing He.

0:48:36.719 --> 0:48:40.800
<v Speaker 2>Says the snake who is biting his dick off. Maybe

0:48:41.960 --> 0:48:46.239
<v Speaker 2>contrary to popular belief, I think that when a man

0:48:46.600 --> 0:48:52.360
<v Speaker 2>says hi, big boy to his penis that passes the

0:48:52.400 --> 0:48:53.120
<v Speaker 2>Bechdel test.

0:48:53.600 --> 0:48:55.359
<v Speaker 1>I see, the only time I would be saying hi,

0:48:55.440 --> 0:48:58.560
<v Speaker 1>big boy is when I'm walking into Bob's Big Boy

0:48:58.600 --> 0:49:02.399
<v Speaker 1>in Burbank, California. I'm passing the statue and I say hi,

0:49:02.520 --> 0:49:07.000
<v Speaker 1>big boy because that's his name. Yeah, but I did wonder.

0:49:07.080 --> 0:49:12.920
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Wow, you know cis masculinity is so twisted. Yeah,

0:49:12.960 --> 0:49:16.120
<v Speaker 1>any any any listeners say, hi, big boy, will they pee?

0:49:16.160 --> 0:49:20.360
<v Speaker 1>And if not, you know, let us know if it's fun,

0:49:21.280 --> 0:49:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Hi big boy. No, how's my big boy?

0:49:24.040 --> 0:49:25.640
<v Speaker 2>Which is even weird, how's my big boy?

0:49:25.760 --> 0:49:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Initiating our conversation. Yeah, that was never answered because that

0:49:30.200 --> 0:49:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Penis was not long for this world. Usually I've assumed

0:49:34.480 --> 0:49:37.479
<v Speaker 1>that Penis would answer, Yeah, the early kills I thought

0:49:37.480 --> 0:49:40.160
<v Speaker 1>were the best, the kills they sort of got, except

0:49:40.200 --> 0:49:42.600
<v Speaker 1>for one that we'll come back to. The British guy.

0:49:42.840 --> 0:49:46.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh sure, yes, yes, yes, that was good. Yeah. Okay,

0:49:46.640 --> 0:49:50.120
<v Speaker 2>so the snakes are attacking, but it's like little by

0:49:50.160 --> 0:49:53.840
<v Speaker 2>little at first. Here we also see some snakes bite

0:49:53.840 --> 0:49:57.080
<v Speaker 2>some of the wiring. Yeah, which causes a bunch of

0:49:57.120 --> 0:50:00.839
<v Speaker 2>like electrical failures on the plane, which like sort of

0:50:00.960 --> 0:50:04.160
<v Speaker 2>doesn't really do any or didn't do anything. That was

0:50:04.320 --> 0:50:07.080
<v Speaker 2>clear to me because every time the plane starts crashing,

0:50:07.080 --> 0:50:09.080
<v Speaker 2>it's because the pilot is dead.

0:50:09.120 --> 0:50:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Right, But then that has always resolved by like when

0:50:13.360 --> 0:50:16.239
<v Speaker 1>someone would it's a big me laugh and not to

0:50:16.280 --> 0:50:17.840
<v Speaker 1>be overly didatic because it's.

0:50:17.680 --> 0:50:18.240
<v Speaker 2>The B movie.

0:50:18.320 --> 0:50:23.879
<v Speaker 1>But without fail, anytime the plane was crashing, it would

0:50:23.920 --> 0:50:26.080
<v Speaker 1>be resolved by someone who knew how to fly a plane,

0:50:26.160 --> 0:50:30.440
<v Speaker 1>be like put autopilot back on, and I was like,

0:50:30.560 --> 0:50:35.120
<v Speaker 1>surely they're in touch with base camp or whatever. I'm like,

0:50:35.160 --> 0:50:37.160
<v Speaker 1>why didn't they just say do that if that is

0:50:37.200 --> 0:50:39.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna solve Like even when David character almost comes back

0:50:39.920 --> 0:50:43.840
<v Speaker 1>from the dead, he literally like just put auto pilot on?

0:50:44.320 --> 0:50:47.200
<v Speaker 1>Why don't they just do that? Like how do Sam

0:50:47.280 --> 0:50:50.080
<v Speaker 1>Jackson not? And it's apparently just you know, I don't

0:50:50.120 --> 0:50:52.640
<v Speaker 1>know anything about flying planes, but it's a clearly labeled button.

0:50:53.040 --> 0:50:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't you just press it?

0:50:55.120 --> 0:50:57.399
<v Speaker 2>One might think you know.

0:50:57.560 --> 0:51:02.120
<v Speaker 1>That the minions can land a plane better than these guys.

0:51:02.320 --> 0:51:03.160
<v Speaker 1>Think about that.

0:51:03.239 --> 0:51:06.439
<v Speaker 2>I do reference that later in my notes. Yeahk god,

0:51:06.520 --> 0:51:13.920
<v Speaker 2>thank god, Fret not Jamie. Okay, good, Okay, So the snakes,

0:51:14.000 --> 0:51:18.200
<v Speaker 2>the snakes are emerging. The pilot, not David Keckner, because

0:51:18.239 --> 0:51:21.480
<v Speaker 2>I think he's like the co pilot, the mister official

0:51:21.480 --> 0:51:25.000
<v Speaker 2>pilot who is an actor who I recognize from exactly

0:51:25.080 --> 0:51:28.759
<v Speaker 2>one scene from Josie and the Pussycats. Oh, he's the

0:51:28.800 --> 0:51:31.759
<v Speaker 2>guy who I think he might be FBI, but he

0:51:31.880 --> 0:51:34.600
<v Speaker 2>like comes in to pretend to bust escentially.

0:51:34.160 --> 0:51:36.799
<v Speaker 1>Have no fucking clue who was who in this thing?

0:51:37.080 --> 0:51:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Like I also was like, I again, this is I

0:51:40.840 --> 0:51:44.759
<v Speaker 1>don't know, but I was surprised that the FBI was,

0:51:45.400 --> 0:51:48.239
<v Speaker 1>Like I thought you had to be subtle about that,

0:51:48.640 --> 0:51:50.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, I didn't know you were like, we're the FBI,

0:51:51.600 --> 0:51:54.239
<v Speaker 1>clear first class. I'm like, does it is? I thought

0:51:54.239 --> 0:51:57.920
<v Speaker 1>that that would introduce like a safety vulnerability.

0:51:57.800 --> 0:52:02.600
<v Speaker 2>Right, shouldn't they be more covert? Remindminds me of that

0:52:02.600 --> 0:52:07.600
<v Speaker 2>that part in point break where Keanu's character who's supposed

0:52:07.600 --> 0:52:12.360
<v Speaker 2>to be undercover is like loudly introducing himself with his

0:52:12.440 --> 0:52:17.399
<v Speaker 2>like full real name, is like not being covert at all.

0:52:17.840 --> 0:52:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, no, Like it's you know, and we're

0:52:20.440 --> 0:52:22.879
<v Speaker 1>supposed to believe this is the government agency that has

0:52:22.920 --> 0:52:26.799
<v Speaker 1>gotten away with killing MLK for half a century. I

0:52:26.800 --> 0:52:28.839
<v Speaker 1>don't think so, Like you gotta be a little better

0:52:28.920 --> 0:52:31.719
<v Speaker 1>than that. And also not to keep bringing Lost back

0:52:31.760 --> 0:52:34.359
<v Speaker 1>into it, but I've got a I'm a Lost fan,

0:52:35.160 --> 0:52:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Like they're one of the characters, and Lost is being

0:52:37.640 --> 0:52:42.680
<v Speaker 1>like escorted by a federal agent internationally in the pilot

0:52:42.719 --> 0:52:44.880
<v Speaker 1>of Loss and they're sitting in coach Because you're not

0:52:44.920 --> 0:52:48.280
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be really obvious about.

0:52:48.280 --> 0:52:52.399
<v Speaker 2>That, right, there's another Oh my gosh, I forgot it's Kate.

0:52:52.719 --> 0:52:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:52:53.080 --> 0:52:57.880
<v Speaker 2>Wow, Okay, there's a movie. Is it Midnight Run? I

0:52:57.920 --> 0:53:02.520
<v Speaker 2>always get this movie confuse with another movie. I think

0:53:02.560 --> 0:53:04.840
<v Speaker 2>it is Midnight Run, where like the whole premise of

0:53:04.840 --> 0:53:10.560
<v Speaker 2>that is. I think it's Robert de Niro's he's the

0:53:10.640 --> 0:53:15.480
<v Speaker 2>agent and Charles Grodin is the like criminal or whatever

0:53:15.560 --> 0:53:18.640
<v Speaker 2>under custody. And I don't remember what else happens in

0:53:18.640 --> 0:53:20.040
<v Speaker 2>that movie. It's been a really long time since I've

0:53:20.040 --> 0:53:25.640
<v Speaker 2>seen it. But yeah, there's whole movies with this premise anyway. Okay,

0:53:25.640 --> 0:53:28.319
<v Speaker 2>So the pilot he's in chosing the Pussycats as well.

0:53:29.560 --> 0:53:33.160
<v Speaker 2>He goes to fix the electrical problems that the snakes

0:53:33.160 --> 0:53:37.160
<v Speaker 2>on the plane have caused. But a snake, the motherfucking snakes.

0:53:37.280 --> 0:53:38.600
<v Speaker 2>The snakes on the.

0:53:38.600 --> 0:53:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Snake really make you wait for that line, They really do.

0:53:41.560 --> 0:53:43.720
<v Speaker 2>But honestly, when it happens.

0:53:43.600 --> 0:53:46.080
<v Speaker 1>It's worth it. Oh it's worth it, You're like, and

0:53:46.120 --> 0:53:49.000
<v Speaker 1>that is why Sam Jackson is a movie star.

0:53:49.840 --> 0:53:54.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, precisely. Okay, So a snake bites the pilot and

0:53:54.640 --> 0:53:59.719
<v Speaker 2>he dies, and the crew is like, darn well, let's

0:53:59.800 --> 0:54:02.880
<v Speaker 2>keep petting to La. We're over halfway.

0:54:02.520 --> 0:54:05.399
<v Speaker 1>There that Okay, yes, I have I have notes on

0:54:05.920 --> 0:54:09.360
<v Speaker 1>just the bizarre. I'm like, they must have shot this

0:54:09.560 --> 0:54:12.880
<v Speaker 1>absurdly out of order. I'm wondering how many script changes

0:54:12.920 --> 0:54:17.280
<v Speaker 1>happened because the lack of reaction. There's a David Kector

0:54:17.360 --> 0:54:21.239
<v Speaker 1>read that just cracked me up. Wait where is it?

0:54:21.680 --> 0:54:26.080
<v Speaker 1>I have so many notes? Oh yeah, he first, like

0:54:26.200 --> 0:54:28.799
<v Speaker 1>the David. I think it's Rick, who's like I've worked

0:54:28.800 --> 0:54:30.120
<v Speaker 1>with him for decades.

0:54:30.520 --> 0:54:31.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a decade.

0:54:32.320 --> 0:54:35.040
<v Speaker 1>And then and then just is soullessly may day, may day,

0:54:35.080 --> 0:54:38.479
<v Speaker 1>may day, he has suffered a fatal heart attack. We're

0:54:38.480 --> 0:54:42.919
<v Speaker 1>gonna keep flying. You're just like, okay. And then there's

0:54:42.960 --> 0:54:45.680
<v Speaker 1>like just these matter of matter of fact readings that

0:54:45.680 --> 0:54:48.359
<v Speaker 1>made me laugh so much. Eddie somehow managed to fill

0:54:48.360 --> 0:54:51.400
<v Speaker 1>the plane with poisonous snakes. And you're like, yeah, sure,

0:54:51.520 --> 0:54:54.960
<v Speaker 1>because we haven't even gotten to Bobby Canavale. No, Bobby Canavale,

0:54:55.000 --> 0:54:55.760
<v Speaker 1>the poor an addict.

0:54:56.880 --> 0:54:58.439
<v Speaker 2>Oh is he? I didn't know that about him.

0:54:58.680 --> 0:55:00.640
<v Speaker 1>That's for a while, the only thing we know about

0:55:00.680 --> 0:55:03.800
<v Speaker 1>him is they're like, what are you doing watching his character?

0:55:03.960 --> 0:55:08.719
<v Speaker 1>Not his Oh I don't. I don't know anything about it. Sorry,

0:55:08.719 --> 0:55:12.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean his character Loves is not catching astray from me.

0:55:12.560 --> 0:55:17.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know a thing about him. Love just working it. Tanya, Oh, sure,

0:55:17.600 --> 0:55:23.000
<v Speaker 1>he's in it for about one minute. But yeah, his character.

0:55:23.080 --> 0:55:27.319
<v Speaker 1>I was like, he also seems everyone's kind of in on.

0:55:27.239 --> 0:55:28.960
<v Speaker 2>The joke here, I hope.

0:55:29.000 --> 0:55:31.719
<v Speaker 1>So he later says the line that's gonna leave a mark.

0:55:31.760 --> 0:55:33.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, he can't think this is going to be

0:55:33.680 --> 0:55:36.120
<v Speaker 1>a career to finding you know.

0:55:37.520 --> 0:55:42.720
<v Speaker 2>You never know. Okay, so let's see the pilots dead.

0:55:43.920 --> 0:55:48.520
<v Speaker 2>Just then tons of snakes on the plane attack all

0:55:48.560 --> 0:55:52.400
<v Speaker 2>at once. A bunch of people get bitten and die immediately.

0:55:52.440 --> 0:55:55.040
<v Speaker 2>These are mostly like extras who we haven't really met.

0:55:55.120 --> 0:55:57.919
<v Speaker 2>We don't know them. Yes, but one of the little

0:55:57.960 --> 0:56:00.920
<v Speaker 2>boys we do know gets bitten. One of three G's

0:56:01.040 --> 0:56:05.440
<v Speaker 2>bodyguards gets bitten, the one who isn't Keenan Thompson on the.

0:56:05.440 --> 0:56:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Ass ass introduced homophobic two thousand and six.

0:56:09.880 --> 0:56:15.000
<v Speaker 2>Side plot, Yes exactly. Let's see the woman with the

0:56:15.080 --> 0:56:22.400
<v Speaker 2>baby gets knocked unconscious. There's a part where the flight attendant, Grace,

0:56:22.600 --> 0:56:26.040
<v Speaker 2>she's the older one who's like about to retire, kind

0:56:26.040 --> 0:56:30.120
<v Speaker 2>of sacrifices herself to save the young woman's baby. Because

0:56:30.239 --> 0:56:31.080
<v Speaker 2>old women.

0:56:30.960 --> 0:56:34.360
<v Speaker 1>Are disposable and must die for the young. I really

0:56:34.400 --> 0:56:38.520
<v Speaker 1>loved Grace was a fun character. They did her dirty,

0:56:38.880 --> 0:56:39.120
<v Speaker 1>I know.

0:56:40.640 --> 0:56:45.280
<v Speaker 2>Meanwhile, Flynn is like zapping the snakes with his taser.

0:56:45.400 --> 0:56:49.320
<v Speaker 2>He's got so many weapons wand board. You know he's FBI,

0:56:49.480 --> 0:56:53.200
<v Speaker 2>but he brought all his weapons on the plane into

0:56:53.239 --> 0:56:53.720
<v Speaker 2>the cabin.

0:56:54.080 --> 0:56:57.959
<v Speaker 1>Again, very like pre nine to eleven plot point there.

0:56:58.480 --> 0:57:05.160
<v Speaker 2>Right, Eventually, the survivors who didn't die from this like

0:57:05.280 --> 0:57:07.040
<v Speaker 2>initial burst.

0:57:06.719 --> 0:57:08.759
<v Speaker 1>Of attacks, mostly blonde women.

0:57:09.000 --> 0:57:11.600
<v Speaker 2>Lots of blonde women, they managed to kind of like

0:57:11.680 --> 0:57:15.360
<v Speaker 2>barricade themselves into one area of the plane and block

0:57:15.440 --> 0:57:17.800
<v Speaker 2>the snakes using a bunch of luggage.

0:57:18.080 --> 0:57:21.760
<v Speaker 1>I really, I mean again, you know, he couldn't have known,

0:57:21.800 --> 0:57:24.280
<v Speaker 1>but it is very bone chilling, saying like his first

0:57:24.280 --> 0:57:26.640
<v Speaker 1>suggestion being like we need to build a wall. You're

0:57:26.680 --> 0:57:31.160
<v Speaker 1>like that line is going to age extraordinarily poorly. Yeah,

0:57:31.200 --> 0:57:33.080
<v Speaker 1>and also the fact that he's an FBI agent with

0:57:33.120 --> 0:57:36.920
<v Speaker 1>a million weapons and that's his best idea. But whatever,

0:57:37.080 --> 0:57:38.640
<v Speaker 1>it seems to work.

0:57:38.760 --> 0:57:41.000
<v Speaker 2>It takes them forever to get the idea to go

0:57:41.320 --> 0:57:43.280
<v Speaker 2>upstairs into first class.

0:57:43.560 --> 0:57:45.600
<v Speaker 1>But then it's like Titanic, like it's the end of

0:57:45.640 --> 0:57:50.080
<v Speaker 1>the tame. They're like, ah, they cannot get upstairs in

0:57:50.080 --> 0:57:55.800
<v Speaker 1>an orderly fashion. The stairs break. It's like, it's ridiculous.

0:57:56.320 --> 0:57:56.920
<v Speaker 2>It's awesome.

0:57:57.320 --> 0:57:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right.

0:57:58.480 --> 0:58:03.040
<v Speaker 2>It's around this time when the other FBI agent Sanders

0:58:03.560 --> 0:58:08.200
<v Speaker 2>dies from a snake bite. Also, he declares earlier his

0:58:08.320 --> 0:58:11.320
<v Speaker 2>fear of snakes. Yeah, so this is an especially bad

0:58:11.400 --> 0:58:13.120
<v Speaker 2>trip for him, and then he dies.

0:58:13.320 --> 0:58:15.560
<v Speaker 1>I love those moments in horror movies. We also get

0:58:15.560 --> 0:58:17.960
<v Speaker 1>a similar moment with Grace where they're like he was

0:58:18.000 --> 0:58:22.040
<v Speaker 1>my best friend. You're like okay. Like same with David

0:58:22.120 --> 0:58:24.800
<v Speaker 1>Kackner and the Pilot, You're like, well, I'm sorry, I

0:58:24.840 --> 0:58:27.240
<v Speaker 1>feel nothing at all, Like I don't know who this

0:58:27.280 --> 0:58:27.840
<v Speaker 1>person is.

0:58:28.040 --> 0:58:32.320
<v Speaker 2>Because the movie treats Agent Sanders death like it's this

0:58:32.560 --> 0:58:35.520
<v Speaker 2>deeply tragic moment that the audience is going to have

0:58:35.560 --> 0:58:40.320
<v Speaker 2>to like really pause and contemplate. But we're like, who

0:58:40.440 --> 0:58:43.240
<v Speaker 2>is who the fuck is this guy? Again? I don't

0:58:43.480 --> 0:58:43.959
<v Speaker 2>know him?

0:58:44.160 --> 0:58:46.600
<v Speaker 1>The three deaths, I think we were supposed to feel

0:58:46.640 --> 0:58:50.320
<v Speaker 1>a way about where like the Pilot, the Partner and Grace,

0:58:50.400 --> 0:58:52.600
<v Speaker 1>and Grace was the only one and that was strictly

0:58:52.600 --> 0:58:54.280
<v Speaker 1>on the performance where I thought that was a very

0:58:54.400 --> 0:58:57.840
<v Speaker 1>charming performance, what a cool lady too bad she.

0:58:57.840 --> 0:59:03.320
<v Speaker 2>Died, So okay. Then Samuel L. Jackson uses the airplane

0:59:03.360 --> 0:59:07.360
<v Speaker 2>telephone to call his FBI buddy on the ground, this

0:59:07.480 --> 0:59:13.520
<v Speaker 2>is Harris, and tell him that famous mobster Eddie Kim

0:59:14.000 --> 0:59:16.880
<v Speaker 2>put all of these snakes on the plane in order

0:59:17.000 --> 0:59:20.440
<v Speaker 2>to bring the plane down to kill Sean so that

0:59:20.520 --> 0:59:22.960
<v Speaker 2>he can't testify against him in court.

0:59:23.280 --> 0:59:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Amazing plan, to which again Bobby cana Valley has like

0:59:26.880 --> 0:59:31.960
<v Speaker 1>absurdly no reaction to, Like He's like, oh God, that sucks.

0:59:32.480 --> 0:59:35.520
<v Speaker 1>I paused his scene because we're told a bunch of

0:59:35.600 --> 0:59:40.400
<v Speaker 1>like Bobby canna Valley's stock character information where they're like

0:59:40.480 --> 0:59:43.520
<v Speaker 1>he's addicted to poor and he hates his children.

0:59:43.080 --> 0:59:45.120
<v Speaker 2>And hates his children.

0:59:45.400 --> 0:59:48.000
<v Speaker 1>I paused his office to be like, what are we

0:59:48.040 --> 0:59:49.640
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be alread to hear? He has like a

0:59:49.640 --> 0:59:53.040
<v Speaker 1>bunch of bobbleheads of I think one was George W. Bush.

0:59:53.080 --> 0:59:55.320
<v Speaker 1>I think he had the Declarty of Independence framed in

0:59:55.320 --> 0:59:57.440
<v Speaker 1>his office. I'm like, what am I supposed to be

0:59:57.520 --> 1:00:01.360
<v Speaker 1>thinking about this man? But anyways, I was glad he

1:00:01.400 --> 1:00:03.160
<v Speaker 1>at least stayed in the movie, because I thought he

1:00:03.240 --> 1:00:05.000
<v Speaker 1>was just gonna be in that office and did all

1:00:05.040 --> 1:00:07.160
<v Speaker 1>of his scenes in like fourteen minutes because he just

1:00:07.160 --> 1:00:09.840
<v Speaker 1>pays it around being like I hate my kids, I

1:00:09.880 --> 1:00:13.880
<v Speaker 1>hate like I love war, or like whatever the hell

1:00:14.080 --> 1:00:15.480
<v Speaker 1>is going on with him. But at least he goes

1:00:15.520 --> 1:00:18.960
<v Speaker 1>to a second location and meets like I wrote down

1:00:19.120 --> 1:00:24.360
<v Speaker 1>snake Tobias Funke is what it felt like to me,

1:00:25.200 --> 1:00:25.960
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know.

1:00:26.120 --> 1:00:28.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I see it, I see it. That guy's about

1:00:28.720 --> 1:00:33.320
<v Speaker 2>to show up, but yeah, before that happens, the young

1:00:33.840 --> 1:00:38.080
<v Speaker 2>mother knows how to suck venom out of a snake bite.

1:00:38.200 --> 1:00:40.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, so she does this for that little

1:00:40.200 --> 1:00:41.640
<v Speaker 2>boy who got bitten.

1:00:41.480 --> 1:00:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Which of course has made a sex joke.

1:00:43.280 --> 1:00:49.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, austing three gs entourage see her administering

1:00:49.680 --> 1:00:53.160
<v Speaker 2>like medical care to a child, and they're like, child

1:00:53.400 --> 1:00:57.040
<v Speaker 2>hubba hubba a wooga, I want her to suck me

1:00:57.320 --> 1:00:57.720
<v Speaker 2>like that.

1:00:58.280 --> 1:01:01.760
<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, this same character has refused help from a man

1:01:01.840 --> 1:01:05.160
<v Speaker 1>he thinks is gay, because fellas, is it gay to

1:01:05.600 --> 1:01:10.880
<v Speaker 1>survive a snake bite? Like just really ridiculous two thousand

1:01:10.880 --> 1:01:13.520
<v Speaker 1>and six nonsense going on, truly.

1:01:14.120 --> 1:01:17.960
<v Speaker 2>So meanwhile, Bobby Kinavale gets to work on finding a

1:01:17.960 --> 1:01:23.440
<v Speaker 2>snake expert. This guy, doctor Stephen Price aka VI expert

1:01:23.600 --> 1:01:28.400
<v Speaker 2>to k who figures out that there must be something

1:01:28.480 --> 1:01:32.200
<v Speaker 2>provoking the snakes to cause them to be so aggressive,

1:01:32.640 --> 1:01:34.760
<v Speaker 2>a pheromone perhaps, And I feel like.

1:01:35.120 --> 1:01:37.240
<v Speaker 1>He's like I felt Jurassic Parky a little bit.

1:01:37.520 --> 1:01:39.760
<v Speaker 2>Kind of well because there's such an emphasis on like

1:01:40.440 --> 1:01:44.680
<v Speaker 2>female reptiles, because he's like, well, female snakes emit a

1:01:44.680 --> 1:01:49.439
<v Speaker 2>pheromone and it makes the males very aggressive. So it's like, okay, great,

1:01:49.520 --> 1:01:50.680
<v Speaker 2>blame everything.

1:01:50.480 --> 1:01:54.880
<v Speaker 1>On creat the girl snakes somehow became women's fault, and

1:01:54.920 --> 1:01:57.880
<v Speaker 1>we got there. Yeah, I think there's a concept of

1:01:57.960 --> 1:02:00.720
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it almost ties into like, and this

1:02:00.760 --> 1:02:03.000
<v Speaker 1>is again very cis normative, but there are so many

1:02:03.000 --> 1:02:05.280
<v Speaker 1>sis men who write these kinds of movies, of like

1:02:05.720 --> 1:02:11.360
<v Speaker 1>the gigantic number of pussy monsters we see in horror movies,

1:02:11.520 --> 1:02:15.480
<v Speaker 1>and and just using pheromones, like female pheromones as a

1:02:15.520 --> 1:02:19.160
<v Speaker 1>weapon also just feels very like seems like more of

1:02:19.200 --> 1:02:24.000
<v Speaker 1>a you prob that we see pop up in specifically

1:02:24.040 --> 1:02:25.280
<v Speaker 1>genre movies a lot.

1:02:25.920 --> 1:02:29.080
<v Speaker 2>Sure, it's like, take the idea of the fem fatal,

1:02:29.600 --> 1:02:32.480
<v Speaker 2>apply it to snakes on a plane. Come on, bam,

1:02:32.560 --> 1:02:33.080
<v Speaker 2>you've got.

1:02:32.920 --> 1:02:37.280
<v Speaker 1>A movie at very least oh single woman fights a snake.

1:02:37.400 --> 1:02:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Everyone else needs a boyfriend, but Claire evil Zionus. Claire

1:02:43.400 --> 1:02:46.720
<v Speaker 1>does fight a snake and then I we'll get to

1:02:46.760 --> 1:02:47.360
<v Speaker 1>the love story.

1:02:47.360 --> 1:02:47.960
<v Speaker 2>Because I was.

1:02:48.000 --> 1:02:50.320
<v Speaker 1>Baffled by that. I was like, oh, I did not

1:02:50.440 --> 1:02:54.280
<v Speaker 1>see that coming. I was not into I was not

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<v Speaker 1>into it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I have a whole spiel on that as well. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So so the snake expert is figuring different things out

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<v Speaker 2>and they need to find a way to show this

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<v Speaker 2>expert what kinds of snakes are on board so he

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<v Speaker 2>can figure out what like types of anti venom to get.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's a whole scene where in two thousand and

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<v Speaker 2>six they learn how cell phone cameras and email works

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<v Speaker 2>and they managed to send an email from like a

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<v Speaker 2>BlackBerry or whatever the fuck on the plane pre the

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<v Speaker 2>era of planes having Wi Fi or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And also I'm like, I honestly I could I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, but I'm like, I was unclear if the

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<v Speaker 1>power on the plane was even working at that point.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it wasn't. I think that the snakes had

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<v Speaker 2>chewed through the electricity.

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<v Speaker 1>I really loved that plot hole. I thought that plot

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<v Speaker 1>hole was iconic. No no accounting for it. Ten out

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<v Speaker 1>of ten amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Then the flight attendant Claire discovers that the co pilot Rick,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the David Keckner character, is incapacitated and no

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<v Speaker 2>one's flying the plane and it's nose diving into the ocean.

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<v Speaker 2>So Claire and agent Flynn have to step in and

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<v Speaker 2>try to pull the plane back up. Allah that scene

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<v Speaker 2>from Minions to.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly as Minions did it better Manian had more chemistry

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<v Speaker 1>with each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, let's be honest, seriously. Yeah, okay. So meanwhile the

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<v Speaker 2>barricade of like just suitcases stacked on each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing plan, good job.

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<v Speaker 2>You won't believe it, but it falls apart.

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<v Speaker 1>Your tax dollars at work everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>And all the snakes are coming through and attacking people again,

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<v Speaker 2>including like the honeymoon couple. That mean British guy feeds

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<v Speaker 2>Mercedes little dog to the snakes, but the he gets like.

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Kate, I think like Twins. I was like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just so two thousand and six, it's exhaustive. The I

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<v Speaker 1>loved the rich guy death where the snake I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>because it had been a while since we'd had a

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<v Speaker 1>good snake death at that true thought. It was mostly

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<v Speaker 1>just like Oi Oi Oi and then we get the

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<v Speaker 1>rich guy's swallowed whole via his head awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>By what I would call a big boy snake.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, how's my big boy? Well, well he's he's hungry

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<v Speaker 4>and he's eating the mean man. I do appreciate that

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<v Speaker 4>he gets like instant karma killed, yes, because he like

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<v Speaker 4>feeds the dog to the snakes. But then he immediately

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<v Speaker 4>gets eaten by very satisfying something boa constrictor.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't fucking I was like, could that have even happened?

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<v Speaker 1>I literally do not know, and I none of my business.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're not scientists. Yeah, okay, So then everyone finally

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<v Speaker 2>goes upstairs to first class again unclear why they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>think of this earlier because that seems like a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good idea.

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<v Speaker 1>And empty for like an hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, then David Keector comes back to life and starts

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<v Speaker 2>piloting the plane again. He's like, oh, I'm fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, He's like, I'm fine, and then he's like, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to take your top off, babe, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, Rick, you're still yourself and he's like but

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<v Speaker 1>then like he puts the plane on auto pilot. Why

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<v Speaker 1>don't they just keep doing that? I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 1>you know, viewed as camp. That is an amazing moment

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<v Speaker 1>in the movie. I wonder so ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if autopilot is sort of like cruise control

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<v Speaker 2>on a car. I don't know what autopilot does. Any listeners,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, and including if Keenan Thompson listening, well

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<v Speaker 1>he is, and he's anything like this character. If he doesn't,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't know either, so he.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't, okay. In the meantime, on the ground, Bobby Canavale

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<v Speaker 2>and the snake expert discover that most of the snakes

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<v Speaker 2>on the plane are indigenous to other continents, which means

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<v Speaker 2>that nearby hospitals wouldn't have the anti venom for those snakes,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's only one person nearby who would have what

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<v Speaker 2>they need, so they head to that guy's house in

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<v Speaker 2>the desert. Back on the plane, this is when Grace,

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<v Speaker 2>the flight attendant dies, So it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Sad and there's all a lot of very like Hokey.

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<v Speaker 1>We learned this about Claire. It's her last flight before

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<v Speaker 1>she becomes a lawyer, and Grace is like it was

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<v Speaker 1>I just had to do one last flight from Honolulu

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<v Speaker 1>to la I'm like for what But anyways, she dies.

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<v Speaker 2>It reminded me of Captain E. J. Smith on the

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<v Speaker 2>Titanic that was his last.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a classic. I mean, it's a good trope to

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<v Speaker 1>be like, you know or whatever though, like it's my

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<v Speaker 1>last case and that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Before I retire, Before I retire.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like basically what Grace is doing. But then she

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<v Speaker 1>gets snaked. Sad but true, and then we learn that

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<v Speaker 1>Tiffany and her were really good friends. Question Mark. We

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<v Speaker 1>do not see that. I would have it would have

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<v Speaker 1>made more sense if the like male flight attendant was

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<v Speaker 1>grieving her because we only see them together, but we

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<v Speaker 1>don't really get to see how he feels about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay. We also see a moment where three G's

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<v Speaker 2>goes berserk and he's like waving a gun around, but

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<v Speaker 2>he calms down and he apologizes. Also, the air conditioning

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<v Speaker 2>has stopped working on the.

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<v Speaker 1>Plane, which is why he becomes so as homicides. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's like implied that they're maybe running out of air,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's a germophobe, so like he wants fresh air.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's like, I'm gonna kill someone if I don't

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<v Speaker 1>get fresh air. You're like three gees sir.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's really goofy, and I would say it's

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<v Speaker 2>extremely goofy.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so the air conditioning isn't working, so Samuel L.

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<v Speaker 2>Jackson has to go down into the cargo hold to

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<v Speaker 2>reset the breakers, which, if you're if you're wiring has

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<v Speaker 2>been chewed through by snakes. I don't know how. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not like that they tripped the breaker. Resetting the breaker

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I hadn't even thought about that. Well, in this

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<v Speaker 1>world it does. And this is also the moment where

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<v Speaker 1>it becomes like clear that he and Claire are vibing climbing.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't work because she was like, no, let me

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<v Speaker 1>go with you. I was like, what, Like, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was more of a like a paternal thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but apparently it's a fucky thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not sense that it was supposed to be

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<v Speaker 2>romantic until the very end when they're like, let's get

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<v Speaker 2>dinner later.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to believe that was added because it was

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<v Speaker 1>just like the no. I mean, you know, Sam Jackson handsome,

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<v Speaker 1>charming man, but it just like there was nothing planted

1:10:11.200 --> 1:10:14.360
<v Speaker 1>that made that make sense. The age gap felt very weird.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I don't believe this for a second.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows. Any Way, Samuel L. Jackson goes to find

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<v Speaker 2>the breakers in a scene that feels very similar to

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<v Speaker 2>a scene in Jurassic Park where Samuel L. Jackson has

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<v Speaker 2>to go and reset the breakers.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, and it's also Samuel Jackson.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also him.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Although in Jurassic Park he dies doing this via being

1:10:44.360 --> 1:10:47.960
<v Speaker 2>attacked by reptiles, and in Snakes on a Plane he

1:10:48.080 --> 1:10:50.639
<v Speaker 2>lives and the reptiles don't kill him.

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<v Speaker 1>That didn't even occur to me. So that was a

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<v Speaker 1>moment that that was for the fans.

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<v Speaker 2>That yeah, I think so. I wonder if that was

1:10:57.040 --> 1:11:03.080
<v Speaker 2>supposed to be an homage, but I don't know. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Back on the ground, Bobby Canavale goes to the like

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<v Speaker 2>snake smuggler dude to get all the I don't know

1:11:11.240 --> 1:11:13.280
<v Speaker 2>if they even get the anti venoms from him, but

1:11:13.320 --> 1:11:14.960
<v Speaker 2>they just get a list they.

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<v Speaker 1>Get literally, he's like, I need a list of the

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<v Speaker 1>snakes on the plane. You're like what, And then the

1:11:22.560 --> 1:11:26.479
<v Speaker 1>guy's like, I swear, here's the list, and he's like

1:11:26.520 --> 1:11:30.600
<v Speaker 1>all right, thank you, and then he's fine, Like it

1:11:30.920 --> 1:11:34.439
<v Speaker 1>just was I loved it. I loved it the Bobby

1:11:34.479 --> 1:11:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Canivale sections, and they gave him so many goofy lines

1:11:38.240 --> 1:11:41.360
<v Speaker 1>in this sequence where they're like, what are you doing,

1:11:41.520 --> 1:11:45.760
<v Speaker 1>He's like, my job, and then and then he like

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<v Speaker 1>shoots the guy or whatever. He's like, that's good to

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<v Speaker 1>leave the mark. And it's just like Bobby Canavalle is

1:11:51.479 --> 1:11:54.519
<v Speaker 1>just not scary, Like he's not scary and he's not cool,

1:11:54.560 --> 1:11:57.240
<v Speaker 1>and that's why I like him. But like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sold on this whole like hyper mask Bobby kind of

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<v Speaker 1>vallet like, no.

1:12:02.800 --> 1:12:06.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sorry, it's not doing it for me either. But anyway,

1:12:06.720 --> 1:12:10.360
<v Speaker 2>now that they have this list of snakes, they're like, whow,

1:12:11.040 --> 1:12:14.960
<v Speaker 2>everything's gonna be a okay, and so everyone kind of

1:12:15.200 --> 1:12:18.280
<v Speaker 2>just like breathe a sigh of relief. The sun is

1:12:18.280 --> 1:12:20.160
<v Speaker 2>coming up because by the way, this has been a

1:12:20.360 --> 1:12:24.360
<v Speaker 2>red eye flight the whole time, right, But then they

1:12:24.479 --> 1:12:31.040
<v Speaker 2>realize that the co pilot, David Keckner, died again and

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<v Speaker 2>no one's flying the plane again. But don't worry. In

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<v Speaker 2>the Diosex Machina of the Century, Keenan Thompson knows how

1:12:42.439 --> 1:12:46.719
<v Speaker 2>to fly a plane, so he's gonna land this plane.

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<v Speaker 2>But wait, there's a bunch of snakes in the cockpit,

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<v Speaker 2>which is when Samuel L. Jackson says the best line

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<v Speaker 2>in cinema history. I have had it with these motherfucking

1:12:56.520 --> 1:12:59.880
<v Speaker 2>snakes on this motherfucking plane. And so to get rid

1:13:00.560 --> 1:13:03.320
<v Speaker 2>of these motherfucking snakes on this motherfucking plane, he.

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<v Speaker 1>Almost kills everybody and then goes to a safe area

1:13:07.600 --> 1:13:10.920
<v Speaker 1>with Keenan Thompson like, he just leaves everyone for dead,

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<v Speaker 1>including children, including a baby. Right, you couldn't have brought

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<v Speaker 1>a couple. You could have brought the kids with you

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<v Speaker 1>into the cockpit. They're like, no, best of Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't have the strength to hang on. Best of

1:13:22.320 --> 1:13:25.519
<v Speaker 2>luck in there, right, because what they do is they

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<v Speaker 2>literally shoot holes in the plane with Samuel L. Jackson's

1:13:29.600 --> 1:13:34.200
<v Speaker 2>FBI gun, which makes all the snakes go flying out.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone has to hang on for dear life. And then

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<v Speaker 2>Keenan Thompson successfully lands the plane, even though we find

1:13:41.400 --> 1:13:45.920
<v Speaker 2>out that the quote unquote flight experience he has has

1:13:46.000 --> 1:13:49.320
<v Speaker 2>all been via playing video games on PlayStation two.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is kind of a fun moment. Keenan seems

1:13:55.360 --> 1:13:57.160
<v Speaker 1>to be having a good time. I hope so, because

1:13:57.160 --> 1:14:02.800
<v Speaker 1>otherwise was he doing here and yeah, they land the

1:14:02.800 --> 1:14:05.360
<v Speaker 1>plane just like the Minions did in sam Panpisco.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so true, Jamie.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks. Remember when I said that at our show in

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco and it got less than nothing. It was

1:14:13.360 --> 1:14:16.519
<v Speaker 1>like just a black hole of reaction. If you're at

1:14:16.520 --> 1:14:18.559
<v Speaker 1>that show, you should have laughed. Do you really let

1:14:18.560 --> 1:14:20.920
<v Speaker 1>me down in that moment? That that didn't feel good?

1:14:20.920 --> 1:14:22.040
<v Speaker 1>And I think about it often.

1:14:24.200 --> 1:14:26.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. I I think I reacted you.

1:14:26.840 --> 1:14:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh you you laugh. I was like woooo yeah, which

1:14:29.920 --> 1:14:33.439
<v Speaker 1>almost emphasized how no one else was laughing because he

1:14:33.520 --> 1:14:37.840
<v Speaker 1>said woo. But I needed I needed to do in

1:14:37.880 --> 1:14:38.800
<v Speaker 1>that moment you were there.

1:14:40.080 --> 1:14:41.680
<v Speaker 2>I really tried to be there for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

1:14:43.320 --> 1:14:45.559
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, they don't land in San pan Pisco in

1:14:45.600 --> 1:14:50.320
<v Speaker 2>this movie. They Oh how would the Minion say Los Angeles? Oh?

1:14:50.400 --> 1:14:53.160
<v Speaker 1>I feel like they'd be like how so true?

1:14:53.240 --> 1:14:56.360
<v Speaker 2>So true, And that's where they land the plane. Various

1:14:56.439 --> 1:15:03.160
<v Speaker 2>first responders are there to administer anti venom, and the survivors,

1:15:03.240 --> 1:15:05.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, they safely get off the plane. But just

1:15:05.880 --> 1:15:13.519
<v Speaker 2>as Sean remember him, No, he's about to get off

1:15:13.560 --> 1:15:16.240
<v Speaker 2>the plane, but a snake bites him on the chest.

1:15:16.600 --> 1:15:22.280
<v Speaker 2>So Samuel al Jackson shoots the snakes slash Sean's chest,

1:15:22.840 --> 1:15:27.479
<v Speaker 2>which is fine because Sean was wearing a bulletproof vest

1:15:27.600 --> 1:15:28.320
<v Speaker 2>the whole time.

1:15:28.680 --> 1:15:31.520
<v Speaker 1>And then he's now he's Tiffany's boyfriend.

1:15:33.080 --> 1:15:37.360
<v Speaker 2>Right. There's a bunch of like forced hetero romances at

1:15:37.360 --> 1:15:43.000
<v Speaker 2>the very end, including a huge, big twist that Ken,

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<v Speaker 2>the flight attendant who the movie kept implying was probably gay,

1:15:47.760 --> 1:15:51.599
<v Speaker 2>has a beautiful girlfriend and he's straight after all.

1:15:51.760 --> 1:15:54.439
<v Speaker 1>And everyone, like all of his coworkers are like whoa.

1:15:54.520 --> 1:15:56.760
<v Speaker 1>But it was implied that they knew each other quite well.

1:15:56.840 --> 1:15:59.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, right, did they not know that he was

1:15:59.680 --> 1:16:02.920
<v Speaker 1>in like long term relationship? Also, like this is way

1:16:02.920 --> 1:16:04.840
<v Speaker 1>beside the boy But how did she get down to

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<v Speaker 1>the tarmac? Like that's a good that's a pre nine

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<v Speaker 1>to eleven thing. Yeah, yes, whatever, yeah whatever, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not what this is about.

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<v Speaker 2>No, And then the movie ends with Sean and Samuel

1:16:17.560 --> 1:16:22.599
<v Speaker 2>Willow Jackson surfing together in BALI question mark because that's

1:16:22.720 --> 1:16:26.439
<v Speaker 2>what Sean had been talking about wanting to do. The end.

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<v Speaker 1>Yay, I loved it. I guess let's take it. We've

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<v Speaker 1>been taken a break in an hour and a half, we've.

1:16:34.760 --> 1:16:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Been recording for so long already and we haven't even started.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it's time for another snake break.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're back. We're back from the snake break. How

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<v Speaker 1>is your savait? How's my big boy?

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<v Speaker 2>Your big boy if you mean me?

1:17:01.120 --> 1:17:01.240
<v Speaker 1>Hm?

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<v Speaker 2>Great? Oh good? How's my big boy?

1:17:04.320 --> 1:17:07.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing okay, I'm I'm so. I'm like, we've talked.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot about something.

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<v Speaker 1>Movie. I don't yeah, I've like it's like we're even

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<v Speaker 1>to begin, Like, is this movie massages? Yes? Is this

1:17:17.000 --> 1:17:17.759
<v Speaker 1>movie racist?

1:17:18.000 --> 1:17:18.400
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

1:17:18.760 --> 1:17:20.559
<v Speaker 1>Is this movie homophobic? Yes?

1:17:21.240 --> 1:17:26.760
<v Speaker 2>Is this movie agist yes? Yes? Is this movie fat phobic? Yes? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't really think of a single subversion.

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<v Speaker 2>That happens, no, nor I yeah. Most attempts at jokes

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<v Speaker 2>in this movie are at the expense of a marginalized group.

1:17:43.520 --> 1:17:46.759
<v Speaker 1>I think that the most extreme, the most frustrating example

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<v Speaker 1>of that to me, was the single woman of color,

1:17:49.080 --> 1:17:53.559
<v Speaker 1>yeah who. We don't know what her nationality is, but

1:17:53.880 --> 1:17:57.040
<v Speaker 1>she's the only woman of color. She's over forty, so

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<v Speaker 1>we're already like, this isn't going to end well for her.

1:18:00.080 --> 1:18:02.960
<v Speaker 1>She's not extremely thin, and so's she's made out to

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<v Speaker 1>be an alcoholic, you know, knowing that you're watching a

1:18:06.760 --> 1:18:08.960
<v Speaker 1>snake slasher a movie. You're like, this woman is going

1:18:09.040 --> 1:18:12.280
<v Speaker 1>to be made to die in a very humiliating way,

1:18:12.439 --> 1:18:15.960
<v Speaker 1>for sure, And that is precisely what happens. She is

1:18:16.000 --> 1:18:20.840
<v Speaker 1>ostensibly sexually assaulted by a CGI snake and then has

1:18:20.840 --> 1:18:23.839
<v Speaker 1>her eye gouged out ultimately right.

1:18:23.760 --> 1:18:26.200
<v Speaker 2>Even before that, So when she's like boarding the plane,

1:18:26.960 --> 1:18:31.000
<v Speaker 2>three G's fat shames her, right and then also fat

1:18:31.000 --> 1:18:34.320
<v Speaker 2>shames his friend Keenan Thompson and like talks about the

1:18:34.360 --> 1:18:37.560
<v Speaker 2>baby that they would make together, like it's just disgusting,

1:18:38.200 --> 1:18:41.240
<v Speaker 2>and then yeah, she sits down, she takes out a

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<v Speaker 2>flask and starts drinking from it. She's characterized as being

1:18:45.160 --> 1:18:48.200
<v Speaker 2>so oblivious that she doesn't notice that a snake is

1:18:48.280 --> 1:18:51.840
<v Speaker 2>slithering up her dress. And then she's one of the

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<v Speaker 2>first people to die, not the first, but no, very

1:18:54.240 --> 1:18:55.000
<v Speaker 2>gruesome death.

1:18:55.439 --> 1:18:58.240
<v Speaker 1>And they really drag it out too, like they it's

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<v Speaker 1>multiple beats. We never learn anything about her. There might

1:19:03.600 --> 1:19:06.919
<v Speaker 1>be an implication that she's native Hawaiian. I'm not totally sure.

1:19:07.640 --> 1:19:12.040
<v Speaker 1>I just like any negative trope you could associate with

1:19:12.400 --> 1:19:15.920
<v Speaker 1>any number of marginalized groups is present in this I

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<v Speaker 1>think unnamed character because she's also traveling alone.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what else to say. I mean,

1:19:20.760 --> 1:19:22.559
<v Speaker 1>that was like one of the things about this movie

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<v Speaker 1>that I was like, this is like deeply gross.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And then outside of Sam Jackson, the only black characters

1:19:31.840 --> 1:19:35.400
<v Speaker 1>that we get to know are a like very broadly

1:19:35.520 --> 1:19:40.920
<v Speaker 1>written rapper and his two security guards. And so I think,

1:19:41.000 --> 1:19:44.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know, Sam Jackson makes one reference

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<v Speaker 1>to race, not that I was like, I want this

1:19:46.080 --> 1:19:48.240
<v Speaker 1>movie to have more commentary about race, Like, you know,

1:19:48.280 --> 1:19:50.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't really that's not the job of Snakes on

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<v Speaker 1>a plane right now. But Sam Jackson is just playing

1:19:54.160 --> 1:19:57.840
<v Speaker 1>the stock FBI character he if nothing else, is not

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<v Speaker 1>defined by his race the course of this movie. I

1:20:01.439 --> 1:20:04.160
<v Speaker 1>don't think you can say that for three g's and

1:20:04.200 --> 1:20:06.240
<v Speaker 1>the key and Thompson character and the other character. There's

1:20:06.280 --> 1:20:10.320
<v Speaker 1>just so many tropes present. It's mostly lazy writing. Yeah,

1:20:10.360 --> 1:20:14.599
<v Speaker 1>But even the like the the later homophobia that comes

1:20:14.680 --> 1:20:20.120
<v Speaker 1>up where I think that often, especially during like this phase,

1:20:20.120 --> 1:20:23.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, all men in film are very no homo,

1:20:23.920 --> 1:20:27.240
<v Speaker 1>no homo, no homo during this period of film. But

1:20:27.280 --> 1:20:30.400
<v Speaker 1>I think black men specifically are often made to be

1:20:30.560 --> 1:20:34.880
<v Speaker 1>made out to seem particularly homophobic and so I at

1:20:35.000 --> 1:20:37.800
<v Speaker 1>least and if any listeners disagree, please let me know.

1:20:37.880 --> 1:20:42.160
<v Speaker 1>I just it pinged for me that the overtly homophobic

1:20:42.200 --> 1:20:45.439
<v Speaker 1>comments were coming from people of color, because there was

1:20:45.560 --> 1:20:48.519
<v Speaker 1>one muttered comment from I think the one Asian man

1:20:48.560 --> 1:20:50.479
<v Speaker 1>we get to know on the plane, get to know

1:20:50.840 --> 1:20:54.120
<v Speaker 1>he's like coming back from a kickboxing competition, and then

1:20:54.160 --> 1:20:57.519
<v Speaker 1>gets a girlfriend. That's kind of all we know about him.

1:20:57.800 --> 1:21:00.240
<v Speaker 1>And then and then you know, we have one What

1:21:00.360 --> 1:21:02.840
<v Speaker 1>is the other character's name, it's not fair to call

1:21:02.920 --> 1:21:07.559
<v Speaker 1>him not Keenan Thompson, Keith Dallas aka big Leroy. Again,

1:21:07.680 --> 1:21:11.080
<v Speaker 1>just very lazy naming conventions here, but he is so

1:21:11.680 --> 1:21:14.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's for some reason, he's not fatally bitten

1:21:14.720 --> 1:21:16.599
<v Speaker 1>by a snake. I don't know why. Some aren't, some aren't.

1:21:17.360 --> 1:21:21.439
<v Speaker 2>Well, the snake expert really clearly lays this out, Jamie,

1:21:21.520 --> 1:21:24.320
<v Speaker 2>where some of the snakes will kill you within minutes,

1:21:24.479 --> 1:21:28.880
<v Speaker 2>others within hours, and even others you can recover from

1:21:28.920 --> 1:21:31.719
<v Speaker 2>a venomous snake bite with just a good night's sleep.

1:21:32.280 --> 1:21:36.640
<v Speaker 1>It's almost like whatever the script requires can be possible.

1:21:37.479 --> 1:21:41.599
<v Speaker 1>But he gets bitten on his ass, yes, and then

1:21:41.680 --> 1:21:47.080
<v Speaker 1>there's this big homophobic beat of Ken, who's referred to

1:21:47.120 --> 1:21:52.120
<v Speaker 1>on scholarly journal Wikipedia as an eccentric flight attendant, which

1:21:52.200 --> 1:21:54.799
<v Speaker 1>I guess is that writer's way of saying queer coded.

1:21:55.560 --> 1:21:57.880
<v Speaker 1>But in any case, you know, venom needs to be

1:21:57.880 --> 1:21:59.719
<v Speaker 1>sucked out of a bite, but he's.

1:21:59.560 --> 1:22:02.439
<v Speaker 2>Like, no home like it. You know, if a man

1:22:02.640 --> 1:22:04.080
<v Speaker 2>can't do it, that would be.

1:22:04.080 --> 1:22:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Too gay only for that character, that same character to

1:22:07.920 --> 1:22:12.759
<v Speaker 1>like like hama and ahamadahamana over like you mentioned earlier,

1:22:14.080 --> 1:22:17.640
<v Speaker 1>women sucking the venom out of a child snake bite,

1:22:17.840 --> 1:22:22.280
<v Speaker 1>so you know, very bad broad riding.

1:22:22.800 --> 1:22:27.439
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yep, correct. I would say the way that Hawaii

1:22:27.720 --> 1:22:30.160
<v Speaker 2>is depicted in the movie, it's only for a few minutes,

1:22:30.200 --> 1:22:35.639
<v Speaker 2>but all we see is like touristy people doing touristy stuff.

1:22:35.720 --> 1:22:38.800
<v Speaker 2>There are, from what I could tell, no depictions of

1:22:39.200 --> 1:22:43.720
<v Speaker 2>Native Hawaiians or their community or culture, not that we

1:22:44.200 --> 1:22:46.719
<v Speaker 2>know of. Yeah, so it's just like a few shots

1:22:46.800 --> 1:22:50.720
<v Speaker 2>of like tourists surfing and then we get on a

1:22:51.000 --> 1:22:54.240
<v Speaker 2>plane with snakes on it. But yeah, shit like that.

1:22:54.600 --> 1:23:00.280
<v Speaker 2>It's shit like three G's grabbing a woman's boob to

1:23:00.439 --> 1:23:03.599
<v Speaker 2>sign it, just like assaulting a fan and then she's

1:23:03.640 --> 1:23:06.280
<v Speaker 2>like wow, like She's like, Wow, I loved it.

1:23:06.479 --> 1:23:10.519
<v Speaker 1>Loves every second it's It's so it's frustrating because it's

1:23:10.560 --> 1:23:13.680
<v Speaker 1>nothing we haven't talked about on this show, but it

1:23:13.760 --> 1:23:17.760
<v Speaker 1>is just like it feels like everything everything happens that

1:23:17.800 --> 1:23:20.880
<v Speaker 1>could possibly happen, and I feel like, at least Keenan,

1:23:21.080 --> 1:23:24.360
<v Speaker 1>I think Keenan's character gets a little more characterization strictly

1:23:24.439 --> 1:23:28.760
<v Speaker 1>because it's Keenan. That was my theory because Keenan was

1:23:28.800 --> 1:23:31.720
<v Speaker 1>already like a very well known, well loved personality. So

1:23:31.720 --> 1:23:33.840
<v Speaker 1>I feel like they gave him a character because it

1:23:33.840 --> 1:23:37.800
<v Speaker 1>would be a letdown to have Keenan time because I mean, yeah,

1:23:37.920 --> 1:23:40.600
<v Speaker 1>Keenan had already been on SNL for several years at

1:23:40.640 --> 1:23:43.679
<v Speaker 1>this point he joined, and L had been a dowser three.

1:23:43.960 --> 1:23:47.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah Keenan and kel like he's a he's a generational talent,

1:23:47.720 --> 1:23:50.559
<v Speaker 1>Like you got to give this guy a character. But

1:23:50.640 --> 1:23:54.559
<v Speaker 1>I think that the other his like counterpoint, big Leroy,

1:23:54.600 --> 1:23:57.200
<v Speaker 1>which I did not realize that was that character's name,

1:23:57.760 --> 1:24:00.680
<v Speaker 1>but he really suffers as a result. And they like

1:24:00.720 --> 1:24:03.479
<v Speaker 1>almost doubled down on all of these just like lazy

1:24:04.120 --> 1:24:07.160
<v Speaker 1>tropes to the point where I think the last word

1:24:07.240 --> 1:24:09.800
<v Speaker 1>we hear that last line from that character is my

1:24:10.160 --> 1:24:12.320
<v Speaker 1>ass and you're like fine.

1:24:14.120 --> 1:24:18.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean in a different context that could be iconic,

1:24:18.280 --> 1:24:21.880
<v Speaker 2>but is here not out not so much.

1:24:22.520 --> 1:24:25.040
<v Speaker 1>I also think the way that Asian actors were depicted

1:24:25.200 --> 1:24:26.840
<v Speaker 1>was not great.

1:24:27.160 --> 1:24:31.439
<v Speaker 2>Especially with like Eddie Kim and his his minions.

1:24:31.280 --> 1:24:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Right, which is it's like, I mean, I honestly have

1:24:35.280 --> 1:24:39.680
<v Speaker 1>just a wild dearth of information about Like, I just

1:24:39.720 --> 1:24:42.760
<v Speaker 1>have no interest in crime movies, mafia movies. I know that,

1:24:43.040 --> 1:24:45.519
<v Speaker 1>you know mafia movies. There's you know, people of all

1:24:46.160 --> 1:24:50.800
<v Speaker 1>nationalities can be in gangs whatever. For me, what was

1:24:50.880 --> 1:24:54.200
<v Speaker 1>clicking more was that whenever you would cut to Eddie

1:24:54.280 --> 1:24:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Kim outside of crime activity, he was like doing karate.

1:24:59.120 --> 1:25:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Like it just felt very broad, again, very broad Americanized

1:25:03.400 --> 1:25:08.000
<v Speaker 1>stereotypes around East Asian people were being just randomly applied

1:25:08.400 --> 1:25:13.760
<v Speaker 1>to these American characters like Eddie Kiss from LA. I

1:25:13.800 --> 1:25:14.759
<v Speaker 1>don't know, I just found.

1:25:14.560 --> 1:25:19.439
<v Speaker 2>It bizarre, definitely. David Kickner's character also makes that gross

1:25:19.600 --> 1:25:24.599
<v Speaker 2>joke that's both racist and disparaging of sex workers. Oh

1:25:24.640 --> 1:25:26.839
<v Speaker 2>maybe I missed that one that I won't repeat.

1:25:27.240 --> 1:25:32.639
<v Speaker 1>Blink and you'd miss an offensive thing happening in this movie.

1:25:32.840 --> 1:25:35.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, also, we've touched on this to some extent,

1:25:36.040 --> 1:25:40.200
<v Speaker 1>but just the again, the very horror movie tropy approach

1:25:40.360 --> 1:25:43.840
<v Speaker 1>to women. The only women of color, and I can't

1:25:43.880 --> 1:25:46.799
<v Speaker 1>even say we get to know because she is mostly

1:25:47.120 --> 1:25:50.240
<v Speaker 1>mocked in order to be established, and then is slowly

1:25:50.880 --> 1:25:53.800
<v Speaker 1>killed in the most humiliating way they can think of. Yes,

1:25:53.960 --> 1:25:57.880
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the women are blonde in different shades

1:25:57.880 --> 1:26:01.479
<v Speaker 1>of blond, and they are killed or not killed in

1:26:01.520 --> 1:26:06.800
<v Speaker 1>the order that they display moral behavior quote unquote. So

1:26:07.000 --> 1:26:09.960
<v Speaker 1>the woman who is the blondest and has sex, of course,

1:26:10.040 --> 1:26:13.800
<v Speaker 1>is the first to go. Tiffany seems like she is

1:26:14.000 --> 1:26:17.840
<v Speaker 1>only rescued by the fact that she has a boyfriend.

1:26:18.080 --> 1:26:21.599
<v Speaker 1>I would say the same for the Paris Hilton insert character, like.

1:26:21.600 --> 1:26:24.519
<v Speaker 2>Who gets damseled and then has to be saved by

1:26:24.840 --> 1:26:27.080
<v Speaker 2>the kickboxing tournament.

1:26:26.920 --> 1:26:31.720
<v Speaker 1>Guys her boyfriend. Like every blonde who isn't killed is

1:26:31.920 --> 1:26:35.040
<v Speaker 1>damseled at some point. I think the only one we

1:26:35.120 --> 1:26:39.719
<v Speaker 1>see fight back is Claire, who is interestingly the only

1:26:39.760 --> 1:26:43.360
<v Speaker 1>white brunette woman, which is just like so over the

1:26:43.400 --> 1:26:48.679
<v Speaker 1>top ridiculous. It's also implied that she's the only woman

1:26:48.800 --> 1:26:51.760
<v Speaker 1>with any ambitions outside of this, because we find out

1:26:51.760 --> 1:26:54.519
<v Speaker 1>she's about to become a lawyer we know nothing about,

1:26:54.560 --> 1:26:57.240
<v Speaker 1>which of course doesn't come back, but we know doesn't

1:26:57.280 --> 1:26:58.040
<v Speaker 1>we're just told that.

1:26:58.080 --> 1:26:59.759
<v Speaker 2>Pay off in any way or anything.

1:27:00.280 --> 1:27:03.880
<v Speaker 1>But all of the other blonde women she's surrounded by

1:27:04.520 --> 1:27:08.120
<v Speaker 1>appear to have either no backstory whatsoever outside of being

1:27:08.200 --> 1:27:12.439
<v Speaker 1>horny or privileged or being a mother. So just all

1:27:12.520 --> 1:27:17.519
<v Speaker 1>of these very stock character tropy things. I wanted to

1:27:17.560 --> 1:27:21.240
<v Speaker 1>just take a quick moment to remind if you were

1:27:21.280 --> 1:27:24.000
<v Speaker 1>not aware of Juliana Margulis, I just like, is just

1:27:24.040 --> 1:27:27.519
<v Speaker 1>a very vile You can feel free to look up

1:27:27.600 --> 1:27:31.559
<v Speaker 1>Juliana Margalise zionist comments if you would like your day

1:27:31.640 --> 1:27:36.519
<v Speaker 1>absolutely ruined. Very unpleasant to see her pop up in

1:27:36.560 --> 1:27:39.840
<v Speaker 1>any context. But as far as her character goes, yeah,

1:27:39.920 --> 1:27:45.120
<v Speaker 1>it's you know, I don't know. I'm a white brunette lady,

1:27:45.200 --> 1:27:48.360
<v Speaker 1>and I do have a rich in her life, but

1:27:48.439 --> 1:27:52.280
<v Speaker 1>so is everyone else, Like it was, and even her

1:27:52.360 --> 1:27:55.000
<v Speaker 1>character is just so you know, she keeps it together,

1:27:55.080 --> 1:27:58.320
<v Speaker 1>but then she cries once. And then that was another

1:27:58.360 --> 1:28:00.800
<v Speaker 1>moment where I was like, does it think she and

1:28:00.840 --> 1:28:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Sam Jackson are viving?

1:28:02.840 --> 1:28:04.360
<v Speaker 2>Like completely went over my head?

1:28:04.439 --> 1:28:06.000
<v Speaker 1>What did you think about that? I was just so

1:28:06.120 --> 1:28:06.960
<v Speaker 1>not into it.

1:28:07.360 --> 1:28:10.880
<v Speaker 2>I do think it's worth pointing out that so the end,

1:28:11.200 --> 1:28:15.360
<v Speaker 2>as we have hinted at, there are several hetero romances

1:28:15.960 --> 1:28:19.960
<v Speaker 2>that are just wedged in at the very end. One

1:28:20.240 --> 1:28:26.479
<v Speaker 2>is between Sean and the flight attendant named Tiffany. They

1:28:26.840 --> 1:28:31.000
<v Speaker 2>kiss for some reason, and then he's like, yeah, i'll

1:28:31.040 --> 1:28:34.760
<v Speaker 2>definitely see you later. Let's let's go out. I'll take

1:28:34.800 --> 1:28:38.280
<v Speaker 2>you to dinner, blah blah blah. Now, normally a kiss

1:28:38.320 --> 1:28:42.800
<v Speaker 2>like that would be reserved for the male protagonist and

1:28:42.840 --> 1:28:47.559
<v Speaker 2>then some woman, but since the protagonist is Samuel L.

1:28:47.640 --> 1:28:52.240
<v Speaker 2>Jackson and interracial on screen kisses were still not very

1:28:53.160 --> 1:28:56.360
<v Speaker 2>common in two thousand and six. Yeah, there is this,

1:28:56.680 --> 1:29:01.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, romance wedged in between him and the Claire character,

1:29:02.160 --> 1:29:04.839
<v Speaker 2>but they don't have any kind of kiss or anything

1:29:04.880 --> 1:29:07.320
<v Speaker 2>like that. It's just like, yeah, here's my number, let's

1:29:07.360 --> 1:29:08.000
<v Speaker 2>go to dinner.

1:29:08.439 --> 1:29:10.120
<v Speaker 1>It reminds me of I think we talked about this

1:29:10.200 --> 1:29:12.640
<v Speaker 1>originally in Bad Boys, which I know is not a

1:29:12.680 --> 1:29:13.680
<v Speaker 1>two thousand Smivie either.

1:29:13.680 --> 1:29:16.240
<v Speaker 2>That are men in Black Men and Black Will Smith movies.

1:29:16.479 --> 1:29:19.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, where it's you know, I think that at first glance,

1:29:19.479 --> 1:29:22.000
<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh, wow, this movie showed restraint, not really

1:29:22.080 --> 1:29:25.120
<v Speaker 1>leaning into it. But then there is the racialized aspect

1:29:25.120 --> 1:29:29.479
<v Speaker 1>to it. Yeah, I collecked that as well, and I'm

1:29:29.479 --> 1:29:31.760
<v Speaker 1>not saying that that is not happening here. I very

1:29:31.840 --> 1:29:33.680
<v Speaker 1>much believe that it could be. I just also but

1:29:33.880 --> 1:29:37.600
<v Speaker 1>even story wise, it's hinted at so late in the

1:29:37.640 --> 1:29:42.320
<v Speaker 1>movie between two characters who are objectively not vibing that.

1:29:43.520 --> 1:29:46.840
<v Speaker 2>I was like, you know what, I think they just

1:29:46.880 --> 1:29:49.599
<v Speaker 2>like took they were they were using Speed as a

1:29:49.640 --> 1:29:53.400
<v Speaker 2>playbook totally, and they were like, Okay, Keanu, he's the

1:29:54.439 --> 1:29:59.679
<v Speaker 2>cop character. There's gonna be someone on the vehicle, whether

1:29:59.720 --> 1:30:03.360
<v Speaker 2>it be a bus or a plane, who is gonna

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<v Speaker 2>sort of emerge as the like prominent helper woman for Speed.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Sandra Bullock's.

1:30:11.160 --> 1:30:14.439
<v Speaker 1>Character prominent helper woman. And then yeah, Juliana Markleys is

1:30:14.520 --> 1:30:17.720
<v Speaker 1>kind of like CVS brand Sandra Bullock and I'm in

1:30:18.400 --> 1:30:19.320
<v Speaker 1>many ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, and then so she emerges as that character

1:30:23.280 --> 1:30:25.960
<v Speaker 2>and the movie snakes on a plane, so it's like, well, yeah,

1:30:26.000 --> 1:30:28.639
<v Speaker 2>of course she and the protagonists have to get together

1:30:28.720 --> 1:30:32.439
<v Speaker 2>at the end. But they did nothing to earn that, Like, yeah,

1:30:32.520 --> 1:30:34.519
<v Speaker 2>any moments that they were supposed to be vibing, I

1:30:34.560 --> 1:30:37.400
<v Speaker 2>didn't pick up on it all, and it's also completely unnecessary,

1:30:37.439 --> 1:30:39.599
<v Speaker 2>like the fact that it happens in speed I don't

1:30:39.600 --> 1:30:42.840
<v Speaker 2>even mind because I'm like, sure, I'll look at Sandra

1:30:42.920 --> 1:30:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Bullock and Kanu kiss and they have chemistry.

1:30:46.320 --> 1:30:49.640
<v Speaker 1>I think it is like it and it's clearly established

1:30:49.680 --> 1:30:53.000
<v Speaker 1>early in the movie that they're attracted to each other, Right, Yeah,

1:30:53.040 --> 1:30:56.679
<v Speaker 1>that's important, like like that is established.

1:30:56.760 --> 1:30:58.960
<v Speaker 2>Still unnecessary narratively.

1:30:58.680 --> 1:31:02.240
<v Speaker 1>But you know, totally, but at least you believe that

1:31:02.320 --> 1:31:05.440
<v Speaker 1>the movie was building towards that this happened so abruptly

1:31:05.960 --> 1:31:09.000
<v Speaker 1>that I wouldn't be surprised to hear that that happened

1:31:09.000 --> 1:31:14.160
<v Speaker 1>in reshoots or like it was a studio note something

1:31:14.280 --> 1:31:18.400
<v Speaker 1>like that, because it just felt I thought about that

1:31:18.439 --> 1:31:23.360
<v Speaker 1>conversation that we had around blockbuster movies being historically hostile

1:31:23.400 --> 1:31:26.840
<v Speaker 1>to interracial kisses, which it just feels like one of

1:31:26.960 --> 1:31:30.840
<v Speaker 1>many problems with that attempted relationship because it's also so

1:31:31.280 --> 1:31:35.040
<v Speaker 1>like it feels so haphazardly, just like and here's this,

1:31:35.400 --> 1:31:39.040
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, we definitely didn't need it. But if

1:31:39.040 --> 1:31:42.479
<v Speaker 1>it was gonna happen, why wasn't it established at all?

1:31:43.320 --> 1:31:46.679
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, great question, Yeah, we don't know. Here's

1:31:46.720 --> 1:31:53.160
<v Speaker 2>another some other questions I have, Okay, uh, okay. Samuel L.

1:31:53.439 --> 1:31:56.720
<v Speaker 2>Jackson is describing a snake at one point to the

1:31:56.760 --> 1:32:00.439
<v Speaker 2>snake expert, and he says it's brownish on top and

1:32:00.520 --> 1:32:03.960
<v Speaker 2>green on the bottom. Meanwhile, the snake he's describing is

1:32:04.000 --> 1:32:08.799
<v Speaker 2>so visibly blue and purple. There's no green, there's no brown.

1:32:09.000 --> 1:32:10.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what I.

1:32:10.000 --> 1:32:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Didn't notice that. That's so funny. That's really great.

1:32:14.720 --> 1:32:16.720
<v Speaker 2>That was just a little question I had. What was

1:32:16.720 --> 1:32:21.160
<v Speaker 2>happening there? Another question? Okay, So the young mother with

1:32:21.240 --> 1:32:25.800
<v Speaker 2>a baby who removes the venom from the little boy's arm.

1:32:26.520 --> 1:32:28.519
<v Speaker 2>She's explaining how to do it. She's like, yeah, you

1:32:28.560 --> 1:32:31.280
<v Speaker 2>swish olive oil in your mouth to steal it from

1:32:31.320 --> 1:32:34.479
<v Speaker 2>the poison, and then you suck the poison out. But

1:32:34.520 --> 1:32:36.880
<v Speaker 2>then she just takes a gulp of the olive oil

1:32:36.960 --> 1:32:42.040
<v Speaker 2>and swallows it. You'd imagine that she would swish it

1:32:42.080 --> 1:32:44.440
<v Speaker 2>around and then spit it back out.

1:32:44.360 --> 1:32:47.200
<v Speaker 1>Like she just said she was going to do. But

1:32:47.520 --> 1:32:51.000
<v Speaker 1>she k that's the mother's vistom or.

1:32:51.000 --> 1:32:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Something exactly exactly. There's a moment where three g's he

1:32:56.080 --> 1:32:59.240
<v Speaker 2>tries to breathe the oxygen out of like the oxygen

1:32:59.240 --> 1:33:02.639
<v Speaker 2>masks that drop down from the overhead thing, but it's

1:33:02.680 --> 1:33:05.479
<v Speaker 2>not working because they're like, oh, oxygen isn't flowing because

1:33:05.520 --> 1:33:10.760
<v Speaker 2>of whatever, like the snake bit the electricity, and so

1:33:11.000 --> 1:33:13.559
<v Speaker 2>the oxygen doesn't work. But then a couple scenes later,

1:33:14.000 --> 1:33:17.440
<v Speaker 2>the little boy who had been bitten is breathing oxygen

1:33:17.479 --> 1:33:20.800
<v Speaker 2>out of a similar oxygen men he's fine, and he's fine,

1:33:20.800 --> 1:33:22.800
<v Speaker 2>and it seems to be working, so they forgot that

1:33:23.200 --> 1:33:24.479
<v Speaker 2>the oxygen wasn't working.

1:33:24.880 --> 1:33:26.400
<v Speaker 1>The rules of the plane are so all over the

1:33:26.400 --> 1:33:28.920
<v Speaker 1>place because there's so many times where, for the bulk

1:33:28.960 --> 1:33:31.360
<v Speaker 1>of this movie, the plane is actively crashing, but if

1:33:31.360 --> 1:33:34.479
<v Speaker 1>you watch the scene, the examples of there being even

1:33:34.560 --> 1:33:38.000
<v Speaker 1>vague turbulence just happens kind of whenever. But there's other

1:33:38.040 --> 1:33:40.400
<v Speaker 1>things where it seems like it's totally fine and we're

1:33:40.439 --> 1:33:43.320
<v Speaker 1>having full dialogue scenes and the snakes are the problem.

1:33:43.439 --> 1:33:46.559
<v Speaker 1>There's like very rarely snakes and turbulence I'm imagining because

1:33:46.560 --> 1:33:48.920
<v Speaker 1>that would be too hard to shoot. But then like,

1:33:49.200 --> 1:33:51.840
<v Speaker 1>don't set the movie on a plane if that's gonna

1:33:51.880 --> 1:33:52.759
<v Speaker 1>be too hard to shoot.

1:33:52.800 --> 1:33:55.120
<v Speaker 2>But Jamie, the movie is called Snakes on a Plane.

1:33:55.280 --> 1:33:57.840
<v Speaker 1>It has to be and Sam Jackson would not let

1:33:57.880 --> 1:34:01.000
<v Speaker 1>that be changed. I know that had to have been this.

1:34:02.160 --> 1:34:04.960
<v Speaker 1>What are your other questions I have? I only have answers.

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<v Speaker 2>That was thank you so much. That was basically it. Oh,

1:34:09.640 --> 1:34:14.599
<v Speaker 2>the the flight attendant Ken putting a snake in a

1:34:14.640 --> 1:34:17.839
<v Speaker 2>microwave and says, who's your daddy now, bitch?

1:34:18.600 --> 1:34:22.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, basically presses like I loved that. And it

1:34:22.360 --> 1:34:25.400
<v Speaker 1>seems like he pressed the snake button on the microwave

1:34:25.800 --> 1:34:28.280
<v Speaker 1>and the snake exploded. I was like, wow, that really

1:34:28.360 --> 1:34:31.439
<v Speaker 1>was perfectly timed. How could he have known what microwave

1:34:31.439 --> 1:34:34.000
<v Speaker 1>button would be like exactly three and a half seconds,

1:34:35.000 --> 1:34:36.360
<v Speaker 1>enough time to explode the snake.

1:34:36.840 --> 1:34:40.080
<v Speaker 2>I did not notice there was a button labeled snake

1:34:40.360 --> 1:34:42.920
<v Speaker 2>until I watched these like a few minutes of the

1:34:42.960 --> 1:34:47.519
<v Speaker 2>Cinema Sins video for this movie. But in another movie,

1:34:47.560 --> 1:34:49.080
<v Speaker 2>that would have been a hilarious joke.

1:34:49.360 --> 1:34:51.719
<v Speaker 1>But that's not what this movie is. That's my guess

1:34:51.800 --> 1:34:56.479
<v Speaker 1>is that was a reshoot thing. Because what I think is,

1:34:56.520 --> 1:34:58.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, this isn't like a part of me

1:34:59.040 --> 1:35:01.639
<v Speaker 1>is like, would this be a fen six minute because

1:35:02.120 --> 1:35:06.200
<v Speaker 1>the way that like internet culture influenced this at different

1:35:06.400 --> 1:35:11.280
<v Speaker 1>moments feels like weird things like the sporks joke feels

1:35:11.400 --> 1:35:13.720
<v Speaker 1>very two thousand and six internet culture to me, of

1:35:13.800 --> 1:35:19.439
<v Speaker 1>like random much sporks like sporks, bacon mustache, like just

1:35:19.479 --> 1:35:22.559
<v Speaker 1>all this fucking dorky hot topic bullshit from that period

1:35:22.560 --> 1:35:28.120
<v Speaker 1>of time that would have cracked me the hell up exactly. Yeah,

1:35:28.160 --> 1:35:32.599
<v Speaker 1>epic random bacon like I don't know, the Sam Jackson

1:35:32.680 --> 1:35:36.400
<v Speaker 1>saying sporks feels very two thousand and six internet bait

1:35:36.640 --> 1:35:39.840
<v Speaker 1>to me. Yeah, a little more the snake button. I

1:35:39.880 --> 1:35:42.400
<v Speaker 1>don't even hate it, but it is like a very

1:35:42.439 --> 1:35:46.240
<v Speaker 1>specific kind of annoying, and it is interesting that whatever

1:35:46.400 --> 1:35:47.920
<v Speaker 1>that's not, we don't need to get into it. But

1:35:47.920 --> 1:35:49.559
<v Speaker 1>I did think it was interesting that this movie got

1:35:49.640 --> 1:35:53.000
<v Speaker 1>such buzz online that they literally changed parts of the

1:35:53.040 --> 1:35:57.200
<v Speaker 1>movie in the hopes of converting this movie looks so

1:35:57.280 --> 1:36:01.160
<v Speaker 1>ridiculous to I'm going to see it right, which apparently

1:36:01.720 --> 1:36:04.120
<v Speaker 1>did not work. I mean, this movie was financially successful,

1:36:04.120 --> 1:36:06.599
<v Speaker 1>but I don't think the degree that they wanted because

1:36:06.600 --> 1:36:10.639
<v Speaker 1>they were really pushing, like they published a book called

1:36:10.720 --> 1:36:14.080
<v Speaker 1>Snakes on a Plane, The Guide to the Internet sensation,

1:36:14.960 --> 1:36:18.920
<v Speaker 1>like they were really trying to turn this into like

1:36:19.040 --> 1:36:21.840
<v Speaker 1>a huge movie, which didn't really happen.

1:36:21.920 --> 1:36:24.040
<v Speaker 2>Right, because it had a budget of thirty three million

1:36:24.080 --> 1:36:29.559
<v Speaker 2>dollars production budget, which high honestly, it grossed sixty two millions,

1:36:29.560 --> 1:36:31.760
<v Speaker 2>so it like more or less doubled its budget. But

1:36:31.760 --> 1:36:33.880
<v Speaker 2>that was only the production budget. I bet they spent

1:36:33.960 --> 1:36:36.360
<v Speaker 2>so much on marketing that this movie would actually be

1:36:36.439 --> 1:36:38.760
<v Speaker 2>considered a big flop.

1:36:38.560 --> 1:36:41.519
<v Speaker 1>Kind of yeah, or like at least a wash, because

1:36:42.400 --> 1:36:45.439
<v Speaker 1>it just feels I don't know. I was curious because

1:36:45.479 --> 1:36:49.439
<v Speaker 1>this comes at an interesting point in Sam Jackson's career,

1:36:49.680 --> 1:36:53.720
<v Speaker 1>right where I feel like Sam Jackson for basically his

1:36:54.160 --> 1:36:56.720
<v Speaker 1>entire career has been a supporting actor, which I think

1:36:56.800 --> 1:37:00.679
<v Speaker 1>is the unfortunate fate of many prominent peace people of color,

1:37:01.520 --> 1:37:03.599
<v Speaker 1>where you know, it can be very challenging to get

1:37:03.640 --> 1:37:07.559
<v Speaker 1>a you know, band or role. This I was curious.

1:37:07.600 --> 1:37:09.840
<v Speaker 1>I was like, was this supposed to be his big thing?

1:37:10.120 --> 1:37:12.920
<v Speaker 1>The answer is no, because he's coming off of his

1:37:13.040 --> 1:37:16.080
<v Speaker 1>like Mace Window years, basically like he's just finished the

1:37:16.120 --> 1:37:19.519
<v Speaker 1>Star Wars. Uh, he's just finished his Star Wars. Well.

1:37:19.560 --> 1:37:23.640
<v Speaker 2>Impressed that you know his character's name from those movies, Jamie.

1:37:23.479 --> 1:37:27.600
<v Speaker 1>I I remember, weirdly he was. He made one of

1:37:27.600 --> 1:37:31.519
<v Speaker 1>the bigger impressions to me because his saber was purple

1:37:32.120 --> 1:37:35.320
<v Speaker 1>and I liked that, and so I remember what his

1:37:35.400 --> 1:37:38.519
<v Speaker 1>name was. Boring character though it's so boring because he

1:37:38.560 --> 1:37:40.080
<v Speaker 1>was just in all the Senate scenes. I'm like, this

1:37:40.120 --> 1:37:43.599
<v Speaker 1>is so boring. Anyways, So I was curious, why did

1:37:43.640 --> 1:37:46.519
<v Speaker 1>sam Jackson do this movie the way he explains it.

1:37:46.560 --> 1:37:50.000
<v Speaker 1>And I've seen this in print and in an interview,

1:37:50.080 --> 1:37:53.559
<v Speaker 1>and I do believe him. He basically is like, it's

1:37:53.560 --> 1:37:56.479
<v Speaker 1>a recession. Like he said, it was the kind of

1:37:56.560 --> 1:37:58.080
<v Speaker 1>movie I would have gone to see when I was

1:37:58.120 --> 1:38:00.479
<v Speaker 1>a kid. I feel sorry for all the people that

1:38:00.520 --> 1:38:02.479
<v Speaker 1>are going through the whole trip of why would Samuel

1:38:02.600 --> 1:38:05.639
<v Speaker 1>Jackson do something like this? And it's low brow. It's

1:38:05.680 --> 1:38:08.200
<v Speaker 1>a movie people go to movies on Saturday to get

1:38:08.200 --> 1:38:10.559
<v Speaker 1>away from the war in Iraq and taxes and election

1:38:10.680 --> 1:38:14.759
<v Speaker 1>news and pedophiles online and just go and have some fun.

1:38:14.800 --> 1:38:17.240
<v Speaker 1>And I like doing movies that are fun. Now, the

1:38:17.280 --> 1:38:20.439
<v Speaker 1>way he phrases it we can take issue with. But

1:38:20.800 --> 1:38:24.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think he's basically just saying I am

1:38:24.280 --> 1:38:27.920
<v Speaker 1>not above doing an escapist movie because this is the

1:38:28.000 --> 1:38:29.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of movies I enjoyed when I was a kid,

1:38:30.240 --> 1:38:32.680
<v Speaker 1>he said. In other interviews, that I watched that. He's like,

1:38:33.240 --> 1:38:34.840
<v Speaker 1>those kind of tend to be the kind of movies

1:38:34.880 --> 1:38:37.240
<v Speaker 1>I want to do, is movies that I would really

1:38:37.320 --> 1:38:40.519
<v Speaker 1>enjoy seeing when I was younger, and that can be

1:38:40.680 --> 1:38:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Star Wars, but it can also be snakes on a plane.

1:38:43.400 --> 1:38:46.920
<v Speaker 1>And when he phrased it like that, I was like, yeah,

1:38:47.040 --> 1:38:50.400
<v Speaker 1>that makes sense. That's all I have to say about that.

1:38:51.160 --> 1:38:55.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, no. I I was curious about that too,

1:38:55.560 --> 1:38:58.080
<v Speaker 2>and I was just like, all right, either he just

1:38:58.200 --> 1:39:02.280
<v Speaker 2>has a po our person who's insisting that he defend

1:39:02.320 --> 1:39:05.600
<v Speaker 2>his choice to be this movie, or he really believes that.

1:39:05.720 --> 1:39:09.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure, but either way, I was so delighted

1:39:09.800 --> 1:39:11.000
<v Speaker 2>to see him in the movie.

1:39:11.200 --> 1:39:13.439
<v Speaker 1>I always I also like, do appreciate I mean, this

1:39:13.520 --> 1:39:16.600
<v Speaker 1>movie is you know, not to drop the bit of

1:39:16.640 --> 1:39:20.120
<v Speaker 1>the episode. This movie's dogshit right, but like it's but

1:39:20.200 --> 1:39:24.880
<v Speaker 1>it's fun and it's campy, And I always appreciate when

1:39:24.920 --> 1:39:27.599
<v Speaker 1>an actor stands by I've like, as I think, as

1:39:27.600 --> 1:39:29.920
<v Speaker 1>I as I'm mature, I appreciate when an actor stands

1:39:29.960 --> 1:39:33.240
<v Speaker 1>by their can't be performance. But also who cares? I

1:39:33.240 --> 1:39:34.880
<v Speaker 1>want to do something you pointed out to me that

1:39:34.920 --> 1:39:38.760
<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize when we were talking before, was this

1:39:39.000 --> 1:39:42.439
<v Speaker 1>movie is weirdly high. I mean not that rotten Tomatoes

1:39:42.479 --> 1:39:45.519
<v Speaker 1>means nothing, right, but like, why is it so high

1:39:45.520 --> 1:39:48.320
<v Speaker 1>on this movie? I was shocked. I was coming in expecting,

1:39:48.360 --> 1:39:49.479
<v Speaker 1>you know, a twelve percent.

1:39:49.880 --> 1:39:54.160
<v Speaker 2>It's the same. The critics score on Rotten Tomatoes is

1:39:54.880 --> 1:39:57.719
<v Speaker 2>sixty nine percent, meaning of course that sixty nine percent

1:39:57.720 --> 1:40:03.400
<v Speaker 2>of critics gave this a positive of review, which is

1:40:03.479 --> 1:40:06.040
<v Speaker 2>so much higher than I thought. And it's a rare

1:40:06.120 --> 1:40:09.880
<v Speaker 2>movie that has a higher critics score than audience score,

1:40:10.000 --> 1:40:13.479
<v Speaker 2>because the audience score on Rotten Tomatoes is forty nine percent,

1:40:14.000 --> 1:40:17.960
<v Speaker 2>meaning that only about like half the people polled or

1:40:18.000 --> 1:40:22.840
<v Speaker 2>who said anything about it thought that it was good.

1:40:23.200 --> 1:40:28.080
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, baffling, baffling that sixty nine percent of critics

1:40:28.200 --> 1:40:30.240
<v Speaker 2>were like, yeah, this is this is fine.

1:40:30.720 --> 1:40:33.840
<v Speaker 1>I it's weird. I mean, it just feels so like

1:40:33.920 --> 1:40:35.360
<v Speaker 1>you would have to be in two thousand and six

1:40:35.439 --> 1:40:38.120
<v Speaker 1>to understand why. I don't know, because it's like at

1:40:38.120 --> 1:40:43.080
<v Speaker 1>the precipice of so many weird cultural changes that feel

1:40:43.240 --> 1:40:46.320
<v Speaker 1>very kind of like hokey now in a way that

1:40:46.400 --> 1:40:48.760
<v Speaker 1>it was like there's early Internet culture stuff going on,

1:40:48.840 --> 1:40:53.479
<v Speaker 1>there's like still some oh something that I felt very

1:40:54.240 --> 1:40:56.559
<v Speaker 1>Bush era. Not to say that this has improved in

1:40:56.560 --> 1:40:58.920
<v Speaker 1>any way, shape or form, but there was a moment

1:40:58.920 --> 1:41:01.799
<v Speaker 1>where I think it was the Bobby Kenna Valley character says,

1:41:02.560 --> 1:41:06.280
<v Speaker 1>there's just like this broad racist thing that said in

1:41:06.479 --> 1:41:11.640
<v Speaker 1>the Snake trailer question mark, where it's implied that some

1:41:11.720 --> 1:41:13.479
<v Speaker 1>of the guy's snakes are from the Middle East. The

1:41:13.520 --> 1:41:16.759
<v Speaker 1>Middle East is said as if it is a single country, right,

1:41:16.840 --> 1:41:19.839
<v Speaker 1>he says, the Middle East. That would make that snake illegal,

1:41:19.880 --> 1:41:25.000
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't it. Just it just felt very Bush era style

1:41:25.040 --> 1:41:28.439
<v Speaker 1>of racism, Like the Middle East is a single place,

1:41:28.600 --> 1:41:32.360
<v Speaker 1>and everyone and everything from this single place is illegal.

1:41:32.640 --> 1:41:35.720
<v Speaker 1>Like that is the logic that that line bears out.

1:41:36.000 --> 1:41:38.880
<v Speaker 1>And then the guy replies yes, and you're just like

1:41:39.080 --> 1:41:44.719
<v Speaker 1>this is fucking miserable. But then he changes gears and says,

1:41:44.760 --> 1:41:46.719
<v Speaker 1>I need the list of the snakes on the plane,

1:41:46.720 --> 1:41:47.880
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like and I'm.

1:41:47.760 --> 1:41:51.160
<v Speaker 2>Back, and he's like, give me the snake manifest.

1:41:51.560 --> 1:41:55.400
<v Speaker 1>This literally the snake manifest And the guy's like it's

1:41:55.479 --> 1:41:58.920
<v Speaker 1>right over there, Like it's right over there, like yeah.

1:41:58.800 --> 1:42:03.800
<v Speaker 2>He's keeping it easily accessible in case this scene happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Just absolute nonsense. Bibe. Yeah, I don't know, do you

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<v Speaker 1>have anything else to say. It passes the Paxel test,

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<v Speaker 1>if you can believe it. I a couple of.

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<v Speaker 2>Times famously, as per usual, forgot to pay attention.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was, I was paying attention. It passes between

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<v Speaker 1>Claire and Tiffany, it passes between I believe, it passes

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<v Speaker 1>between Claire and Grace.

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<v Speaker 2>It passes.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it passes between a number of I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if we're you know, sometimes it's women talking about snakes.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that's a pressing issue. Yeah, genderless icon the

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<v Speaker 1>CGI snakes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Really blown away that. I was like, there couldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>been more than three snakes on side. There were four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty. Where were they were they? Where the

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<v Speaker 1>hell were these snakes? I only saw computer snakes. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw one real snake.

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<v Speaker 2>Then it makes you wonder about the ethics of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't do further research into it.

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<v Speaker 1>But like many things with this movie, safe to say

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<v Speaker 1>probably not good.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So yeah, I didn't really have a whole lot else.

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<v Speaker 2>I did want to do more research about, like would

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<v Speaker 2>snakes behave this way? I feel like we need like

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<v Speaker 2>a like Creature Future podcast. I'm just on this movie

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<v Speaker 2>to be a help. But yeah, I have to imagine

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<v Speaker 2>that a lot of the way that snake behavior was

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<v Speaker 2>depicted was inaccurate. A lot of how you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>airplane travel was depicted.

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<v Speaker 1>That I feel like we can safely say that's I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think at any point in history how that's worked.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So a nipple scale where we rate the movie

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<v Speaker 2>on a scale of zero to five nipples based on

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<v Speaker 2>examine the movie through an intersectional feminist lens. I would

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<v Speaker 2>give this a slithery, slimy zero nipples. Didn't really do

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<v Speaker 2>anything good and it did everything wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, Yeah, I was gonna say, I do

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<v Speaker 1>want to just like thank our listeners one more time

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<v Speaker 1>for being so patient and waiting, you know, eight and

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<v Speaker 1>a half full years for this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that you've been begging for.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we hope this met your standards, but please do

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<v Speaker 1>not spare us with your criticisms.

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<v Speaker 2>We can finally handle it.

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<v Speaker 1>We're finally in a place where we can accept the feedback.

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<v Speaker 1>And with that, I'm going to give this zero nip.

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<v Speaker 1>It is like such a wildly but I would love

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<v Speaker 1>to see this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>In a theater with you specifically.

1:44:53.680 --> 1:44:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I think that would be so much fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they'll re release it in twenty twenty six for

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<v Speaker 2>the twentieth anniversary.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds honestly, and and if Sam Jackson still like

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<v Speaker 1>stands by it, ish, let's just do it like why

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<v Speaker 1>why not?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I just uh, I had the best time watching this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>It was awful. I'm so glad you're glad to hear it,

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<v Speaker 2>and listeners, thank you for your support, thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>indulging us. I guess I guess we shouldn't end the podcast.

1:45:29.400 --> 1:45:31.680
<v Speaker 2>I guess we should keep going yea, actually and do

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<v Speaker 1>We should do. We should go surfing and bali and

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<v Speaker 1>just figure out what happens next. Yeah, yeah, happy a

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<v Speaker 1>let's get off this motherfucking plane. No, what if you

1:46:44.880 --> 1:46:49.240
<v Speaker 1>shot me? And I'm like, don't worry, I'm good. That's so.

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<v Speaker 1>I do like that trope in movies where it's like

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<v Speaker 1>the last, you know, the last, like, oh, no, jump,

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<v Speaker 1>I love it.

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