1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: On the Bechdecast, the questions asked if movies have women 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: and them, are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands, 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: or do they have individualism? The patriarchy? Zeph and Best 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: start changing with the Bechdel Cast. 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 2: Hey, Jamie, Hey Caitlin, I have had it with these 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 2: motherfucking snakes on this motherfucking podcast. 7 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: I wish I had a snake really like that. No, 8 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. I have a snake tank. 9 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 2: Oh that's right. 10 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. I went through my snake face and then I 11 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: just it turns out I'm afraid of snakes. 12 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: I too, am afraid of snakes. I would not want 13 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: one as a pet personally. 14 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: Friend of the show, Maggie Maye, this is gonna be 15 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 1: a loose episode, but it's also gonna be a very 16 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: serious episode. 17 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: It's so serious. 18 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: Don't underestimate how much text there is to discuss. Maggie 19 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: may Fish front of the show has a snake, yes, 20 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: and her snake outgrew the tank, which is a terrifying prospect. 21 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: IUSSI believe your snake is named Jeff. That's in which 22 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: I think is very cute. 23 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: That's hilarious. 24 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: Jeff a snake and she was like, hey, you know, 25 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: Jeff outgrew the tank. If you want, if you want 26 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: the old tank, and so I still have the tank. 27 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: I still but now it's like I have two cats 28 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: and adult you know, like, am I really gonna add 29 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: a snake into the mix? It just feels like a lot. 30 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: I mean, it's not a big apartment. According to the 31 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: movie where watching we're discussing today might be dangerous, it 32 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 2: might be a little scary. 33 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: I was honestly, Okay, first of all, welcome to the 34 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: Bechdel Cast. This is uh, this is in like sort 35 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: of for like content warning, and just like I just 36 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: want everyone to sort of prepare themselves for like a 37 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: sort of serious episode today. 38 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of like just upsetting things to discuss. 39 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: There's a lot it's yeah, things are gonna be a 40 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: little grim yeah today. 41 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: And it's it's gonna be you know, it's not gonna 42 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: feel good. But I think it's a conversation that I mean, 43 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe it's over correction to apologize, but 44 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: I feel like we've been avoiding this conversation in a 45 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: way that is irresponsible to our listener base, who like, 46 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: we appreciate and we care about you so much, and 47 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: like you've been asking us to sort of speak to this, 48 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: and we were just like trying to get the words together. 49 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 2: And it's, yeah, we we should not have been silent 50 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 2: on this matter, this matter being discussing the movie Snakes 51 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 2: on a Plane two. 52 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: Thousand and six. I'm like, I don't I'm like, how long? 53 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: How long do we keep it up? 54 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: I don't know. 55 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: I genuinely don't know. 56 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 2: Sorry, Oh, I should not be laughing. He sound like 57 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: you're truk serious. 58 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: It's not funny. 59 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: It's not funny. 60 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: So I guess to open with an apology, and it 61 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: came from a place of kind of I agree with 62 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: the criticism that said that it was coming from a 63 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: place of fear and avoidance on our point, but in 64 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,839 Speaker 1: our defense, I think it was also like, yeah, when 65 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: people started asking us to comment on this, I don't 66 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: think we knew ourselves well enough to really be able 67 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: to intelligently say, like, if we had done this, even 68 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 1: you know, three or four years ago, I wouldn't have 69 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: been able to see the shades of gray in the text. 70 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: I would have gotten it all wrong. 71 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: Maybe even three or four months ago. Like there's been 72 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: a lot of growth recently on our parts. I don't 73 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 2: even know. 74 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: If we could have seen the snakes three or four 75 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: of months ago, the movie would have been really confusing 76 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: if we saw the. 77 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 2: Movie is called Snakes on a Plane, but I don't 78 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: see right. But now we know what is there, and 79 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: what's there is snakes on a plane, and certainly. 80 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: More than one. 81 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 2: There's plural snakes a lot. 82 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: I was genuinely shocked to find that there were four 83 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty real snakes on set. 84 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 2: Because to me, they're all cgi. 85 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: I saw one shot of a I was like, oh, 86 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: that's a snake, and then the rest were yeah, like, 87 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: you know whatever. My final animation project in college of 88 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: a snake going hasasa. That's this, Uh, of course this movie. 89 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 2: Look, you asked for it, Well, that's the other thing, Like, 90 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 2: this is our number one request. Yes, this is at 91 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 2: the top of our request list. I think every listener 92 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: at one point has requested, nay demanded, we do this movie. 93 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: I agree, and I think, and it's honestly, I mean, 94 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: for those wondering, in case it's not obvious, this is 95 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: part of the reason we like the show even exists. 96 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 2: I approached Jamie like, yeah, eight and a half nine 97 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 2: years ago whatever, and I was like, yeah, it's really 98 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 2: important to me. Like we're not going to be ready 99 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 2: to do it for a long time, but it's like 100 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: having having the foresight to know that like this needs 101 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: to be discussed through an intersectional feminist lens, and that 102 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 2: we have to just sort of build up, build up 103 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 2: our brand, yeah, build up our knowledge, and get to 104 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,679 Speaker 2: a point where we can discuss this movie. 105 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: And I was kind of like, honestly taken aback at 106 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: the time, where you know, you led the conversation by 107 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: being like, I have not heard anyone talk about intersectional 108 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: feminism in which is wild because we didn't even really 109 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: use that term then, but yeah, intersectional feminism in the 110 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: movie Snakes on a plane, right, And I was like, okay, okay, 111 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: well we should try to talk about it. And then 112 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: you said well and then you put your hand on mine, 113 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: which was was you didn't ask for consent. But it 114 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: was twenty sixteen. We were still figured stuff up. 115 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 2: Well, Jamie not, you know, we were viving the signals, 116 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: were there were signals you're vibing. 117 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: We were look, I'm not I'm not calling you. I 118 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: loved it. I loved it. 119 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: For a second. 120 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: Thank you, But yeah, you put your hand on mine 121 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: and you said, well, I don't think we're going to 122 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: be ready to talk about snakes on a plane for 123 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: at least eight years. And I was kind of taken 124 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: aback because that's a big commitment. But yeah, you know, 125 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: I don't regret a second of it. I think that 126 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: we needed every single second to get to where we 127 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: are now, so that we I mean, honestly, I think 128 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: we could have taken even longer, but it was just 129 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: you know, our inboxes are overflowing. They're like now more 130 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: than ever, please please talk about it. And I think 131 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: it's time. I think it's time that we talk about 132 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: it's times. 133 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 2: And the other thing about it too is that like, 134 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 2: because this whole podcast has been leading up to this, 135 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 2: there's like really not much reason for us to go on. 136 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 2: So this will be our last episode. 137 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so if you've been a listener for you know, 138 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: the better part of a decade now, like we're so 139 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: grateful for your support for your patients with us as 140 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: we continue to grow to a point where we could 141 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: finally have this discussion, and. 142 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 2: We're grateful and were snake ful. That was not a 143 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 2: very good joke, but again, this is a very serious episode. 144 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: I think it's you need levity in an episode like this, 145 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: That's true, true, I feel like I'm on the verge 146 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: of tears. But you know, for old times sake, if 147 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: you're a first time listener, this is the perfect episode 148 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: of this show to start with. 149 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 2: This is the Bechdel caste sorry again, sorry to laugh. 150 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: It's a response to fear. It's exactly wild that people 151 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: aren't laughing more in the movies. Snakes up way, I 152 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: think I do mean that. But the Bechdel Cast it's 153 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: a show where we look at your favorite movies, you know, 154 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: using the Bechdel test as a jumping off point for discussion. Kaitlyn, 155 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: I mean just as a sendoff, would like the folks 156 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: at home know what that is. 157 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't modify it a little bit for the 158 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: sake of this episode. So the Bechdel tests, there are 159 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: many versions of it. For this episode in particular, do 160 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 2: to snakes hiss at each other about something other than 161 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: another snake, and it has to be a really significant 162 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 2: like hiss for it to pass. Yeah. 163 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I felt like, you know, by that matric, 164 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: and shockingly by even more conventional metrics. This movie does 165 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: pass the Bechdel's House and more than once, which was frankly. 166 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 2: Shocking, so shocking. 167 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: But I do I feel ready to I just feel ready. 168 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: I feel ready to jump in. 169 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 2: Well, what's your what's your relationship with this movie? Jamie? 170 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: Nothing. I have no history of this movie. I remember 171 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: that it came out on my birthday when I was 172 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: in middle school. WHOA, yeah, it just came out on 173 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: August eighteenth. 174 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it did. 175 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: It came out on my birthday in middle school, and 176 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: I remember wanting to see it, but unfortunately I was 177 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: in middle school and I could not go see it. 178 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: And I just remember, I don't know if I like 179 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: held it against the movie, but I never saw it. 180 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: Like I was just like, fuck this movie. I'm thirteen, 181 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: I can't go. And it's always like I feel like 182 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: I always remember when a movie, especially when I was young, 183 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: came out on my birthday, Because The Master of Disguise 184 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: came out on my birthday, The Iron Giant came out 185 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: on my birthday, Snakes on a Plane came out on 186 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: my birthday. You just remember, you know, when your birthdays 187 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: on a Friday. These are things that stick. Do you 188 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: remember a specific movie coming out on your birthday. 189 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 2: I think the movie Troy WHOA Okay came out on 190 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 2: my birthday, but I might be full of shit. Let 191 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 2: me see Troy release date. Oh it was closed. It 192 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 2: was May fourteenth, Okay, two thousand and four. There you go, 193 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 2: so a few days off, but it's like it came out. 194 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: The week and you just remember, especially when you're too 195 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: young to see the movie. This was the ultimate example 196 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 1: of this for me, because you know, did The Master 197 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: of Disguise come out at least close to my birthday? Yes, 198 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 1: but I was the Targe audience and so I could go. 199 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,719 Speaker 1: But Snake's on a Plane, Yeah, I just had never 200 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: seen it. 201 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 2: And well, I think another reason you were avoiding it 202 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: probably is because it is such a heavy text and you. 203 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: Could sense that from the marketing, and so I think, 204 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: you know, probably you know, I love my parents, They 205 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: were great parents, and I think they were probably like, 206 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: she's not ready, And honestly, at that time they may 207 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: not have been ready to see I mean fair what 208 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: took place. I will say, this is my first experience 209 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: with Snakes on a Plane. I was really genuinely interested 210 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: in the like micro lore around this movie that I 211 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: wasn't aware of because it's like, yeah, my other podcast 212 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: is all about internet history, and this movie was is 213 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: way more entrenched in like early two thousands internet history 214 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: than I realized, and in fact, like content in the 215 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 1: movie is influenced by how people talked about this movie 216 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,719 Speaker 1: on the Internet, which I can't I'm sure that there 217 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: are examples, but I can't think of an example pre 218 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: dating this where it was like the movie got such 219 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: hype on the Internet that they went back and did 220 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: five days of reshoots to reflect that hype, which is 221 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: like the level of insecurity that must require I can't conceive. 222 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: But at the time, I'm sure it made sense of 223 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: like because you know, in the mid two thousands, they're like, 224 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, if we you know, capitulate to fan desires, 225 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: this movie's going to do great. And that mentality happens 226 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: to this day. It's why the last Star Wars movie 227 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: was bad. I'm pretty sure, right, it's because people just like, 228 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: you know, all the Star Wars people read Reddit boards 229 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, let's just do that, and like, 230 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: but Snake's on a Plane is a great case study 231 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: that that does not work. But I just I don't know. 232 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed learning about the fact that this movie exists. 233 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: I really, I mean there and it is an interesting 234 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: like it's really two thousand and six. It's just two 235 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: thousand and six. Boy is it always good and bad? 236 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: And ways I can finally see after you know, doing 237 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: the show for a decade, I like, I can really 238 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: get into the meat of this right. And look, we 239 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: were talking about this before we started recording. If the 240 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: goal of a movie is to be entertaining, this is 241 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: the best movie in the world, because there is not 242 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: a second where I wasn't like i' it really took 243 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: me back to I'm trying to remember. I think it 244 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: was like Taken was the last time that I felt 245 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: like this watching a movie for the first time because 246 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: I was in but I was in a full theater. 247 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: I saw Taken when it came out. 248 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 2: Brag. 249 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: But you know where whenever something happened, you would just 250 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: be like what, like, you know, would you say you 251 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: were taken? 252 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 2: Aback? 253 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 1: I was taken in? 254 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 2: Were you snaken a back? 255 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: I was? I was snaken in? I was snaken the back? 256 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: I was snaken to another place? 257 00:12:58,320 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 2: Can you snake me higher? 258 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: You win? 259 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 2: You win, you win, that's you win. Remember that Creed 260 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 2: song I do. 261 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: Uh wow, now we're really in two thousand and six. Yeah, 262 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: but like watching this at home on Peacock at one 263 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: am is how this movie is best watched outside of 264 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: in a full theater. In two thousand and six, I 265 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: had the best time watching this damn movie. 266 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 2: I'm so glad to hear that. Because I was watching it, 267 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 2: I was like, oh no, I I might owe Jamie 268 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 2: an apology for insisting not necessary do this. But I 269 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 2: was only doing it because because all the listeners again 270 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 2: demanded we we cover this. It had nothing to do 271 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 2: with my personal no desire to cover this. 272 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: No, absolutely not, and I but no, no, no, you 273 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 1: know I think that it's it was brave of you 274 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: to because I took some convincing. But I'm just I'm 275 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: so glad that we finally took the leap. What's your 276 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: history with Snakes a Plane? 277 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 2: I saw this movie in theaters jealous in two thousand 278 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 2: and six. I went with my best friend at and 279 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 2: oh boy, we we just had quite a time, and 280 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 2: we had an even better time. I think with the 281 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 2: credits song the. 282 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: Wait tell me more, basically just. 283 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 2: That we would play it all the time, okay, and 284 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 2: kind of your I Frankensteed, Yeah, it might be. I 285 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 2: watched the video to the Cobra Starship song Oh my God, 286 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 2: that was written for this movie, and the song is 287 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 2: called Snakes on a Plane parentheses bring it. I think 288 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 2: I should know because I listened to it. I don't know, 289 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 2: but I just thought it was the best song of 290 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 2: two thousand and six, and I watched the music video 291 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 2: on repeat. I also had like a crush everybody in 292 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 2: the video. 293 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: Wait, what was the music video? Like I this is Uh, 294 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: I'm out of my depth here. 295 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I have not seen the to you 296 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 2: to make sure they start. 297 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: Playing music video? Should I pull it up? 298 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? Maybe it is. Basically I watch it's four members 299 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 2: of Cobra Starship. 300 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: Uh, and what was their big was their big hit? 301 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: Good Girls Go Bad? Or Am I thinking of a 302 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: different I make them good? 303 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 2: Literally only know about this band in relation to this song. 304 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: I'm right. Oh, I kind of hate that. I'm right. 305 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: They Yeah, they did Good Girls Go Bad? 306 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, the music video is just the members of 307 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 2: the ban because I think there's been various members of 308 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 2: this musical group. The Ones featured in the music video 309 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 2: is Gabe Support of William Beckett of the Academy, is 310 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 2: Traviy McCoy of Jim Class Here. 311 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: Oh, Travy McCoy. Yeah, sorry, I love Taving McCoy. 312 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 2: And then Maya iverson of the sounds. Not familiar with 313 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 2: that group, but anyway, it's like this amalgamation of different 314 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 2: musicians from different other bands. 315 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: And then I'm oh, so it's Cobra Starship is a supergroup. 316 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: I guess I didn't. I don't know anything about it. 317 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 2: I don't know anything about it either. 318 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: I just knew they were on like the Gossip Girl 319 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: sidetrack or something. Okay, so I'm watching it on mute 320 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, I'm getting the side part vibes, the 321 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: side part vibes, the wallet chains. Yeah, everyone's killing it. Wow. 322 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: I love young Travy McCoy. I don't know anything about 323 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: him from the last fifteen years. Hopefully he is in 324 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: a bad person, but you know, with two thousand and six, 325 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: we just don't know. 326 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 2: We just simply we just don't know. Anyway. Wait, this 327 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 2: music video is fun and the song slaps so hard. 328 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: All the outfits are so ugly. Everyone, I mean It's 329 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: so wild looking back to it, because like, just this 330 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: whole decade is just full of some of the most rancid, 331 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: bizarro ways you could possibly dress up a person. I 332 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,239 Speaker 1: look at pictures of myself in high school, and I 333 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: was like, why do I look older than I currently am? 334 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 1: Like I was wearing you know, like sensible vests, but 335 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 1: also like a push up bra that was like lying 336 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: to a degree that was absurd. Like I it was 337 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 1: I had like really overplugged eyebrows, but also yet a 338 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 1: sensible mother's haircut. I'm like, what is this? Like, what 339 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: is this? Why do I look forty five and yet 340 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: I'm you know, fifteen. It's bizarre. 341 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 2: It was a confusing time. Yeah, and all this to say, 342 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 2: I saw this, I would call it a cinematic masterpiece 343 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 2: in theaters and I really just felt the weight of it. 344 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 2: And I've been carrying that weight around for and it's 345 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 2: time to following nineteen years. 346 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: It's time to you know, release. 347 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 2: Really, this episode's gonna be very cathartic. It's gonna finally 348 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 2: give me that chance to release, to release the venom 349 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 2: that has been coursing through my veins from this movie 350 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 2: for nineteen years. 351 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: Which in the movie I associate with Venom. Is that 352 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: horrible Eminem song that he did for the credits of 353 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: the movie Venom, a movie I haven't seen, but I 354 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: think that the end like like you with this song, 355 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,239 Speaker 1: the end credit song by Eminem to Veminem is so 356 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: funny because it is eighty percent him being He goes 357 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: like venim meim met him, met him, and that's like 358 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: most of the song. 359 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 2: I need to listen to this. 360 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: It just cracks me up. It was on the radio 361 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: for forty five seconds because it was like one of 362 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: the most annoying because you know, and it's like an 363 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: Eminem He's like, look out because I'm gonna hit you. 364 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:04,959 Speaker 1: Look out because I am scary. And then wait, the 365 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: most half assed song I've ever heard in my life 366 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: is great. 367 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 2: Okay, consider this Eminem vmin M Venomon. 368 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: Vanomenamminemm venomin m Yeah, venomenon. 369 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 2: Pretty cool. 370 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: All right, we can end the show now we figured 371 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: it out. 372 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 2: Goodbye. 373 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: So okay, you have a kind of beautiful connection with 374 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: this movie, I would say, so it does seem like 375 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 1: you and JT. Artist snakes in a plane as me 376 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: and my friend Jake are to I Frankenstein in a way. 377 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: I mean, have you rewatched it very much? 378 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 2: No? This that was my only time seeing it. 379 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: Okay, so I guess that's the difference. That's maybe the 380 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: difference since I've seen I forgot Sam probably twenty ten. Yeah, okay, 381 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: but this, I mean, I'm excited to talk about the 382 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: history of this movie, but it is such a dense 383 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: text that I feel like, you know, we should probably 384 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: just get into it. Get into it. Yeah. This movie 385 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: was also originally called Venom. 386 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 2: It was, and then it got changed to some like 387 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 2: clunky title like Pacific Airways Flight one twenty one, and 388 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 2: then Samuel L. Jackson demanded that they change it back 389 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 2: to Snakes on a Plane because that was the working title, 390 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 2: which was like, I love that, surely going to get changed, 391 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: and then he was like, no, you motherfuckers, change it 392 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 2: back to snakes on a Plane. 393 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: And it's also Samuel Jackson's uh not fault accomplishment that 394 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: this movie is are not PG. Thirteen because he's like, 395 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: there cannot be a single there can't be just one 396 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: fuck in this movie. Because I need to say this 397 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: line I love like I because the way I'd seen 398 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: this movie framed in I don't even know. I mean, 399 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: I can't even single out a specific moment, but it's like, oh, 400 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: this is like a fun, campy kind of flop moment 401 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: for Sam Jackson. But when I heard him talk about it, 402 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, he knows exactly what he's doing. And he 403 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 1: was just like, it's a B movie and it's fun. Yeah, 404 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: And you're like yeah, and then you watch it and 405 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: you're like, that's exactly what this is. This movie knows 406 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 1: exactly what it is. Yes, no one here thinks they're 407 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: in a better movie than they're in. 408 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 2: I don't know what you mean, because it's the best 409 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 2: movie ever made. 410 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: But they all think they're in Citizen Kane, and they are. 411 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: It's what I'm saying, Yes, yes, yes, exactly. 412 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 2: Okay, let's take a quick break, a quick snake break. 413 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 2: Ooh scary, and we'll be right back. Okay, we're back 414 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 2: from our snake break, and here is the recap of 415 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 2: snakes on a plane. We open in Hawaii. There's a 416 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 2: dude riding around on a motocross bike and he comes 417 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 2: upon a man who's hanging upside down from a tree. 418 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 2: He's all bloodied, and some bad guy, including a famous mobster, 419 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 2: named Eddie kim Okay. 420 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: I already have so much to say because this first scene, 421 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: I was already like, this is gonna be so such 422 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 1: an awesome movie to watch because it is the first 423 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: ten minutes well, I don't even know. The first five 424 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: minutes of this movie is just. 425 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 2: Motocross, motocross and surfing. Yeah. 426 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you're like, and I guess the sort of 427 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: question is who is that. I was like, if this 428 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: is Sam Jackson, I'm gonna freak out. But it wasn't him. 429 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: It's actually some guy who I will refer to throughout 430 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: the episode as not James Marston, because to me, it 431 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: is very clear that that was the vibe they were 432 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 1: going for. James Marsden and James Marson weirdly would have 433 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: been a good pick at this time for that role 434 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: because he was doing like some prestige supporting like you know, oh, 435 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: you're the second in command to Sam Jackson, Like it 436 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: would have made sense for him. Maybe he read it 437 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: and was like no, no, he might. 438 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 2: Have read the script and he's like, this is actually 439 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 2: too good. I will not do it justice and I 440 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 2: should just step away. 441 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: I should give it to some Australian guy, which is 442 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: what happened. Yeah, but yeah, I don't know who can 443 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: account for what happened. I love that part of the 444 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: reason Sam Jackson did this movie is because he did 445 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: not read the script. 446 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 2: You agreed to it based on the title. 447 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: He did based on the title and the director who 448 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 1: did not end up directing it, So he kind of 449 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: got hoodwinked into doing this. But okay, the first scene, 450 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 1: the amount of expositional dialogue, which is like one of 451 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 1: my favorite things to see in a B movie. I 452 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: watched the first the opening scene twice because, first of all, 453 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 1: this Australian actor Nathan Phillips. I don't know anything about him. 454 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 2: I hope you know. 455 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure he's a nice guy. I'm not even sure 456 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: he's a nice guy, but he's a you know whatever. 457 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: I don't know a thing about him. But consistently throughout 458 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: this movie, I don't know if they this actor has 459 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: difficulty looking scared, but he never seems scared enough for me. 460 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: Like he sees a horrific like a guy falls from 461 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: a bridge and he goes like that is it, And 462 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: that's about like the peak of fear that this performance has. 463 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 1: But anyways, okay, Eddie Kim comes in, Eddie Kim, as 464 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned, batting a hundred oh yeah for 465 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: the few times we see him, the guy hanging from 466 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: the bridge upside down and says, fuck you, Eddie Kim. 467 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: You're always gonna want to address your assault or by 468 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: their full government name. Exactly, easy, great first line of 469 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: dialogue to the movie, fuck you, Eddie Kim. And then 470 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: Eddie Kim is going to match his energy and give 471 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: an absurd amount of exposition. He's gonna say, well, look 472 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: at you, mister prosecutor. Always important to say the job 473 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: of your victim as you're bullying them. Yes, he includes 474 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: more detail about him than is even relevant to his character. 475 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: Then again, I was raised by a single mom, and 476 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: I was like, now why do I know this? And 477 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: then and then clean this up. I'm going back to 478 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 1: la important to say where you're going. And then I 479 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: was like cracking up at that. And then we cut 480 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: to a news broadcast that repeats all of this information, 481 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: which was I was like, this movie has no faith 482 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: in the audience whatsoever. We cut to a news broadcast 483 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: that's like, last night, criminal Eddie Kim killed a prosecutor, 484 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: and now he's going back to la just like, yeah, okay. 485 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 2: Also, this thing with Eddie Kim played by an actor 486 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 2: named Brian Lawson. By the way, he was great. 487 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: I loved every second of him. 488 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:47,719 Speaker 2: Amazing. In this world, Eddie Kim is the most famous person. 489 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 2: He is like a list celebrity. Everyone knows who this 490 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 2: mobster is. He is world renowned. Anytime someone says, oh, yeah, 491 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 2: I'm testifying against Eddie Kim, they're like, oh my god, 492 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 2: I know exactly who that is, and that's so scary. 493 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: The two celebrities in this world are Eddie Kim and 494 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 1: three G's Three G's Yeah, not three G's, poor three G's. 495 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: I like the actor who had to play him. I mean, yeah, yes, 496 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 1: the germophobic rapper three G's, which is a fun concept. 497 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: But we'll circle back to. 498 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 2: Three G's get there. For now, we're on Eddie Kim. 499 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 2: He shows up to kill mister Prosecutor, who I guess 500 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 2: was like trying to take down Eddie Kim and his associates. 501 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: But then again, Eddie Kim was raised by a single mom. 502 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 2: Yeah right, okay, So Eddiekim kills the prosecutor. The motocross 503 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 2: dude his name is Sean played by Nathan Phillips. He 504 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 2: witnesses this, and so he bails by running away on 505 00:26:55,400 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 2: his very noisy motorcycle that all the other mobsters notice. 506 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 2: So they the minions, Sorry is how I should address them. 507 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 2: Eddie Kim's minions go looking for Sean and they're about 508 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 2: to break into his apartment, and. 509 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: He was again is really failing to look appropriately afraid 510 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: of what's happening to him. He's just again like I 511 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: kept I kept putting the movie because I was watching 512 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: it with Grant last night, and I kept putting the 513 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: movie on mute and try to like score this guy's 514 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,959 Speaker 1: performance because if you put it on mute and you 515 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 1: just make the hand like that's that's what he's evoking. Yeah, 516 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: there's literally armed hitman at his door, and he's like ah, 517 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: oh no, oh no, doesn't move away from the door, 518 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 1: just keeps looking through the keyhole. I'm like, yeah, fella, 519 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 1: you're in trouble. 520 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 2: It's interesting. Yeah, So he does try to eventually like 521 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 2: get out of his apartment when who appears but FBI 522 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 2: agent Neville Flynn played by Samuel L. Jackson, and we're like, yes, 523 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 2: he rescues Sean and brings him in for questioning and 524 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 2: tells Sean that he needs to fly to LA to 525 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 2: testify against Eddie Kim so that they can throw him 526 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 2: in jail. And Sean's like, I don't know, sounds dangerous. 527 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 2: There might be snakes on the plane from Hawaii to LA. 528 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: And they're like, hmm, no, that would never happen. 529 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,719 Speaker 2: That would never in a million years. 530 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. 531 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 2: So we cut to the Honolulu airport. Several passengers are 532 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 2: waiting to board a plane that may or may not 533 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 2: have snakes on it. Passengers include a rapper named three G's. 534 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: This reminded me so much of have you I forget? 535 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make us do it for my birthday month 536 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: if I remember. But have you seen Old. 537 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 2: Old No? I still have not. 538 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: There's a I would say worst written famous rapper character 539 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: in that movie. 540 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 2: Sure. 541 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: The character's name is mid Size Sedan. Oh my gosh, 542 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: I remember, yes, And he is not a rapper with germophobia. 543 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: He's a rapper with hemophilia. And so you can see 544 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: how like cinema INFLUENCEDS cinema. And I just thought that 545 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,959 Speaker 1: that would be an important thing to point out. But 546 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: I was, you know, just a really broadly poorly written 547 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: rap character by the least cool man, and I mean 548 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: not to knock am my child. I love that he's 549 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: done cool, but someone who is not qualified to write 550 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: a cool rapper character and then is like, no, no, 551 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: this makes sense and gives you know, just the most 552 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: half assed I mean, mid sized sedan is more half 553 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: ass than three g's, but three g's is pretty bad. 554 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 2: He wrote a song that seems to be about making 555 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 2: that bootygo thump. 556 00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: Oh, booty go thump. 557 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 2: Of course, bootygo thump, and I respect him for it. 558 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: I just you can just like hear the two like. 559 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: I was actually surprised that the men who wrote this 560 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: movie were younger than I thought. They're in their early thirties. 561 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: I was like, then, why does this dialogue so like they? 562 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: When three gus is introduced, and also Keenan Thompson is 563 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: one of his longtime friends Slash Security detail, they call 564 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: him like the Howard Hughes of rap, and I'm like, 565 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: who is that line for? I don't like that's that 566 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: line is for a very old man, Like why are 567 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: they saying that? Unless unless I am mistaken? And young 568 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: people in two thousand and six would have been referencing 569 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: Howard Hughes right and Left. It was just really I 570 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: was like, who wrote this damn movie? But it was 571 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: like fairly I mean, you know who knows who punched 572 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: it up? Maybe it was like a senior I mean, 573 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: with all due respect, a senior citizen was like, bring 574 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: up Howard Hughes. The people love Howard Hughes. 575 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 2: Here's my theory. The Keenan Thompson character whose name is Troy, 576 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 2: I believe his favorite movie is The Aviator. So he's 577 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 2: just like watching The Aviator right and left. He knows 578 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 2: all about Howard Hughes, and he's he's just making references 579 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 2: to that whenever he can. 580 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: Oh, I mean that is true, he is the Aviator. 581 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: But like I was trying to learn about the screenwriters 582 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: of this movie, one is quite easy to learn about 583 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: Sebastian Gutierres, who would have been He's written movies too, 584 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: mostly not loved movies like gothaka Snake's claim. In any case, 585 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: he was fairly young. I mean he was in his 586 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: like And also he's married to Carla Guzino, who is 587 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: amazing Wait. 588 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 2: From Spy Kids. Yes, wait, Also I just realized, so 589 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 2: The Aviator, Yeah, Keenan Thompson. 590 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: He's not in that right, No, no, no, but okay. 591 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 2: His whole thing is that later he flies the plane. 592 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I thought that was what you 593 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: were saying, That that was I planned and payoff that 594 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: he knows about aviation. But then the twist is he 595 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: actually doesn't. 596 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 2: He doesn't. We'll get there, but no, the joke I 597 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 2: was trying to make is that The Aviator is about 598 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 2: Howard Hughes. So that's why he's like dropping that specific reference. Yeah, 599 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,959 Speaker 2: you know, that's why this text is so deep and 600 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 2: heavy and difficult to talk about. 601 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: We can't pretend to have the answers. No, but Sebastian 602 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: Gutierrez he is a Venezuelan writer director and he was 603 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: in his early thirties when this came out. Like, the 604 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: Howard Hughes line is not clocking for me from him. 605 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: The other writer is John Heffernan, but it's hard. I 606 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: know that he passed away in twenty seventeen, but I 607 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: don't know when he was born. And this is the 608 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: only movie he ever worked on. Wow, which is kind 609 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: of interesting. There's another story by credit, and this is 610 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: pretty cool to David Dallassandro, who was Caitlin Connection University 611 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: of Pittsburgh administrator and first time writer. But he started 612 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: developing this concept in nineteen ninety two, so it's also 613 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: very unclear how old he is. We just don't know. 614 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: It is wild to think that Snake's in a Plane 615 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: has been in development, was in development at least at 616 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: that point, at least as long as I had been alive, 617 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: because I would never have guessed it's giving thrown together 618 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: in six weeks. But it was actually a long. 619 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 2: Time anyways, That's how long it takes to write a masterpiece. 620 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 2: In any case, We've met three g's, the rapper and 621 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 2: his entourage to bodyguards, one of whom is Keenan Thompson, 622 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 2: one of whom is another guy we meet them. We 623 00:33:54,880 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 2: meet Mercedes played by Rachel Blanchard, who I recognize Flight 624 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 2: to the Concords. 625 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: I recognize her from Peep Show. Okay, she's uh yeah, 626 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: she is above this. But I have to feel like 627 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,359 Speaker 1: the comedy actors, the comedy character actors we see in this, 628 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: I feel like I have to be in on the joke, 629 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: especially David ken Love, and he really makes a meal 630 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: of the. 631 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 2: Part of Rick Oh yeah. 632 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 633 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 2: His whole character is he loves to sexually harass the 634 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 2: flight attendants. 635 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 1: And that is literally his Nevertheless, he persisted moments where 636 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 1: he's on the verge of death, but he's like, but 637 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: even on the verge of death, I can still sexually 638 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: harass my coworker and you're like, wow, question. 639 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, So he's there. Mercedes is there with her little dog. 640 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 1: Which because there was I'm so sorry there, but I 641 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,399 Speaker 1: feel like every horror movie during this era had a 642 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: Paris Hilton insert parody character, and that is yes, yeah. 643 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 2: She's there with her dog. There's a very rude British man. 644 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,760 Speaker 2: He'll get his come upance, don't you worry. 645 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: Julian Margley's zionist piece of shit is in the chat 646 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 1: as well, but she's brunette, so she's gonna make it right. 647 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 2: She's one of the flight attendants along with Tiffany. There 648 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 2: is a queer coded flight attendant, a man named Ken, 649 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,399 Speaker 2: and then there's also an older woman named Grace. Those 650 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 2: are all the flight attendants. We also meet the co 651 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 2: pilot Rick played by David Keckner. There's a couple on 652 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 2: their honeymoon. There's a different couple who are very horny 653 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 2: for each other. There's a young mother with a baby. 654 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 2: There are two kids, brothers who are flying alone without 655 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 2: their parents, and I. 656 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: Love that they go out of their way to be 657 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: like and not just any parents. A soldier, You're. 658 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 2: Like, Okay, who was on the plane? How was he 659 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,919 Speaker 2: allowed to be on the plane? And then I guess 660 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,839 Speaker 2: he got off before the flight took off. 661 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: Like, I think that a lot of the a lot 662 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: of I mean this movie, being on a plane is 663 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,879 Speaker 1: very inconsistent, I think because there's scenes that literally look 664 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: ripped off from Titanic, people trying to get up a staircase, 665 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: which planes famously don't usually have. 666 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 2: There I think are some like really fancy ones that 667 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 2: have like the first class. I've never been on a 668 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 2: plane like that. 669 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 1: I was like, I had to google it. I was like, 670 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: is this made up? But like I really. Something I 671 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 1: thought was interesting about this movie is that once you 672 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: know how long it was in development, it makes sense 673 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 1: because clearly some plots of this are about plane travel 674 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 1: ostensibly before nine to eleven, and many are about after 675 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: nine eleven. And they're also kind of lifting I think 676 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: from Lost, which was like the most popular show on 677 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,800 Speaker 1: TV at this time, and I feel like Lost without 678 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,240 Speaker 1: being overly like dismiss it, but like, I think Lost 679 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 1: kind of ripped the band aid off culturally of like 680 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: we can have horror about planes again. Because after nine 681 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 1: to eleven, obviously this was something that was avoided. A 682 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: lot of movies were significantly adjusted, including two thousand and 683 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,839 Speaker 1: two is Lilo and Stitch right in order to avoid 684 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: themes of plane crashes and peril on planes. For several 685 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: years that didn't appear in media. But then when Lost 686 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: came out, all of a sudden, it's like, and we're back. 687 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 1: But I think a lot of the characters. And I 688 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: say this because I just watched all of Lost and 689 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 1: got really obsessed, and I'm looking at my Lost toys 690 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 1: with my eyeballs right now. 691 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 2: You have Lost toys. 692 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: I see those, you know those? My niece loves them, 693 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 1: like little Fisher Price little People toys. They made a 694 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,320 Speaker 1: collector's Lost set and it's literally just baby Lost. 695 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 2: Uh huh, it's cute. 696 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 1: I have Baby Hurley here, Baby Jack, Baby Kate, and 697 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 1: of course baby John Locke, my favorite character. Anyways, this 698 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,879 Speaker 1: was a very popular I was trying to like contextualize 699 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,320 Speaker 1: why did this movie happen in this way. Yeah, but anyways, 700 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 1: nineteen I feel like the part of this movie that 701 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 1: was developed before nine to eleven had a soldier getting 702 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 1: all the way onto the plane with his children, because 703 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: that would never have happened after nine to eleven, right, 704 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: But then a lot of the I just thought that, 705 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 1: especially the character of the blonde woman with the baby, 706 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 1: felt very lifted from That's like Claire from Lost. There 707 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: are a few characters that are insert here from Lost 708 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, but maybe I'm projecting. It's not like 709 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: Lost invented blonde single mothers. 710 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 2: I don't remember that character Unlost having a baby. 711 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 1: He was important Aaron Aaron the baby and then the 712 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 1: others stole erin and then Dominic Monaghan had to go 713 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: save the baby. 714 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 2: Oh, because he had a crush on Claire. Is that 715 00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 2: her name on Clare? 716 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how she said her name. She's Australian, right 717 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 1: she was? 718 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 2: Okay? Was she the one who was like the sister 719 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 2: to the Ian summerholder character or is that a different 720 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 2: pairing of people. 721 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,959 Speaker 1: No, that's the other blonde. This is the thing talking 722 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 1: about of me? No, No, this is a This is 723 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 1: a and it's nothing against the actors. But this is like, 724 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 1: oh my god, watching movies from really most times. But 725 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: the number of blondes in this movie is quite staggering, 726 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: and also the like horror movie tropes associated with the blondes, 727 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,919 Speaker 1: there's no subversion in this movie whatsoever. Juliana mark Leaz 728 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,240 Speaker 1: is our singular white brunette, and white being an important 729 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: qualifier in that case, and therefore she's the only one 730 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,760 Speaker 1: with a functioning brain, and all of the blonde women 731 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 1: are going to be variously damseled or slut shamed to 732 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 1: the point where we'll get there. But I just thought 733 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: it was I had to like pause the movie and 734 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 1: explain it to my fiance's my fiance, because that's what 735 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 1: should happen in more straight couples. Women should be explaining 736 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 1: movies to the men exactly. But I just thought it 737 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 1: was wild that we were introduced to so many blondes. 738 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,720 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I'm going to assume the mother 739 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:19,240 Speaker 1: will live, because being a mother is considered by films 740 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 1: to be worthy of life. Right, I'm gonna assume mother 741 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: and baby are gonna live. I'm going to assume the 742 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 1: woman who is Juliana Marglaz's friend who's wearing a skirt 743 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: shorter than Julianna Margallay's is going to be in peril. 744 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,839 Speaker 1: Will either die or then get a boyfriend and live. 745 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 2: That's the tiffanyru You're being validated. 746 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 1: By a man. Tiffany, I'm assuming anyone over forty will die. 747 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 1: But but then the first woman who dies is the blondest, 748 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 1: most skimpily clad, horny person on the planet. Yeah, so 749 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 1: they're like, we need to find the blondest woman alive 750 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: and then kill her, kill her via a nipple butt. 751 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: It was just wild. Anyways, what's happening in the movie? 752 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 1: I just I'll tell you. He is a very rich text. 753 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 2: It's so rich. So we've met most of the cast. Meanwhile, 754 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 2: in the cargo hold, there is a man, a bad boy, 755 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 2: a minion of famous mobster Eddie Kim, and he's spraying 756 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 2: this box of lays, not the. 757 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 1: Chips, the flower. 758 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 2: Necklasts, the flower, yes exactly, And he's saying, these pheromones 759 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 2: are gonna make these guys go crazy. And we're like, 760 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 2: these guys, do you mean the snakes that are on 761 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 2: the plane and he and that's what he means. Yeah. 762 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 2: The flight starts boarding with Sean and Agent Flynn and 763 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:48,720 Speaker 2: another FBI guy, agent Sanders. I think I couldn't figure 764 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 2: out who that was. 765 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: All I know about him is that, like he is 766 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 1: Sam Jackson's friend, and he's also divorced, and that is 767 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 1: what bonds them as adult man. Like they're like, we're both. 768 00:41:58,320 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 2: Divorced, they're both bad partner. 769 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 1: I die for him. You're like, okay, whatever, maybe that's 770 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 1: not that make friends. I don't know, no idea. 771 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 2: So the three of them are the only people in 772 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,800 Speaker 2: first class since like whatever, Sean has to be protected 773 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 2: or something, and so everyone else has to be moved 774 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 2: to coach. They've all been given a lay that was 775 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 2: riddled with snake pheromones, even though those lays were in 776 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 2: the cargo hole. But now when they're being given them, 777 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,240 Speaker 2: like as they board the plane, they're in the airport. 778 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, uh so there's some This is not going to 779 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:44,320 Speaker 3: pass a basic snuff test of logic, which is fine 780 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 3: for a B movie, but the specific examples are very funny. 781 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, if B movie stands for beautiful, brilliant. 782 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 1: Beautiful movie movie. My favorite bizarro plot hole is mid 783 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 1: plane crash in two thousands six. Sam Jackson is able 784 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:06,319 Speaker 1: to send a high resolution photo via email from his 785 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,800 Speaker 1: slip phone. Yeah, I love movie. 786 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 2: That was awesome. Yeah it was great. Okay, So the 787 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 2: flight takes off and after a short while, a mechanism 788 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,760 Speaker 2: is triggered in the cargo hold once the plane reaches 789 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,320 Speaker 2: an altitude of thirty five thousand feet. So I reminded 790 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 2: me of speed where oh the bus goes fifty miles 791 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,320 Speaker 2: an hour that you know, triggers the bomb whatever. 792 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 1: So this triggers the snakes. 793 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 2: This one triggers the snakes, and so a whole slew 794 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 2: of snakes on the plane starts slithering out from somewhere. Meanwhile, 795 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 2: back in the cabin of the plane, everyone is horny. 796 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 2: We got three G's and Mercedes flirting. We've got the 797 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,280 Speaker 2: horny couple going into the bathroom to have sex, something 798 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,240 Speaker 2: that the flight attendants think is awesome. They're like, who 799 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 2: you go. 800 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 1: Girl, which I was like, I uh, you know, I've 801 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,879 Speaker 1: never worked as a flight attendant. I have one friend 802 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 1: who's a flight attendant. But that would have been like 803 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 1: a weird text descent to be like, do you guys 804 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 1: love when people? 805 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 2: I think I think they don't love it at all. 806 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 1: I would I think it's safe to assume, absolutely not. 807 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,360 Speaker 2: And I think it's probably illegal to have sex in 808 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 2: the bathroom of all plane. 809 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,320 Speaker 1: Sure, But also I'm thinking, if I'm a flight attendant, 810 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,359 Speaker 1: I'm like, unless it's posing a danger, I'm not going 811 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,800 Speaker 1: to file a report, Like just please. 812 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 2: Get out of the bathroom. I don't know what I 813 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 2: would do in that situation, but you know, suffice it 814 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 2: to say that these flight attendants love so. 815 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 1: The Mile High Club. If you're if your goal is 816 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 1: to join the Mile High Club, like you know, grow up, 817 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 1: grow yeah, get a you know, dream bige, come on, okay, 818 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 1: so grow up, get them Okay. 819 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 2: So everyone's horny and they're releasing pheromones of their own. Yeah, 820 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if it affects the snakes are not. 821 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,799 Speaker 1: But also as a young Taylor Kitsch is the guy 822 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:10,279 Speaker 1: who I who's that didn't recognize? Well, thankfully I had 823 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:11,920 Speaker 1: a man in the house to tell me he was 824 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,719 Speaker 1: in Friday Night Lights, which I never would have known, 825 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,319 Speaker 1: and he was also in a True Detective season two. 826 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a pretty famous actor, but this is 827 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 1: like I think one of his early roles as like 828 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,319 Speaker 1: he was also in John Tucker Must Die. 829 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 2: This year. 830 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 1: I think he had had to sort of serve in 831 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 1: the trenches of himbo roles before he got real actor roles. 832 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 2: I see, okay, and. 833 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 1: Good for him, But do I care? 834 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:39,839 Speaker 2: No? No, Okay, So we got all these CGI snakes 835 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 2: slithering through the plane. We are seeing things sometimes through 836 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 2: their green snake eye vision, which which. 837 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 1: I did not fact check, but it literally looks like, 838 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 1: oh does snakes look like a snake vision? Like also 839 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 1: looking through a gun like it like like infrared a 840 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 1: sniper like. Maybe I didn't look it up because I 841 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 1: assumed the movie didn't look it up. 842 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,120 Speaker 2: So I don't know the movie didn't look up anything. Yeah, 843 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:13,760 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, Okay, So there's like an enormous number 844 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 2: of snakes slithering throughout the plane. No one notices that 845 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 2: they're right there, They're under their feet, they're in their purses, 846 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,360 Speaker 2: they're going up a lady's dress. 847 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,880 Speaker 1: Well, in their defense, the snakes are computer giants. So 848 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 1: the actors made, you know, I think the actors I 849 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 1: made to be looking about like they're doing a bad 850 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 1: job when they in fact were just never told where 851 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 1: the CGI snakes are going to be, right, I fully 852 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 1: believe there's full sequences where they're like, just be asleep 853 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,240 Speaker 1: on the plane. And then they added a CGI snake 854 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 1: sexually assaulting you, and there's no reaction from the actor, 855 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 1: just and we'll get back to her because she's done 856 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:51,720 Speaker 1: as severe injustice truly. 857 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:56,720 Speaker 2: Anyways, Yes, So then a snake who's on the plane 858 00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,760 Speaker 2: attacks the horny couple that are having sex in the bathroom. 859 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 2: Another snake on the plane comes out of a toilet 860 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:08,759 Speaker 2: of a different bathroom and bites a man's penis. 861 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 1: Now, this is I've seen a lot of criticism around 862 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 1: this food and I don't know where to fall on it, 863 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,840 Speaker 1: Like where this is like one of the first movies 864 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:22,439 Speaker 1: that was really influenced by Internet humor. But I see, 865 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,520 Speaker 1: I personally find out to be a stretch because B 866 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:28,360 Speaker 1: movies have always been kind of influenced by lowest common 867 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,240 Speaker 1: denominator kind of oh for sure. So I wasn't bothered 868 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 1: by it, but I did. The early kills in this 869 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 1: movie are really going for it. I mean the like 870 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 1: the blondest woman in the world being sexualized to the 871 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,880 Speaker 1: absurdist degree that they could do without the movie being rated. 872 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 1: You know, NC seventeen. You know, she is punished for 873 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 1: being for having sex by a snake bite to the nipple, 874 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,279 Speaker 1: and then cut to the guy takes his dick out 875 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,920 Speaker 1: to pee and for those you know with penises, please 876 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 1: sound off in the chat. Do you also say how's 877 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:09,760 Speaker 1: my big boy when you start to take a leak? 878 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 1: Because I thought that was delightful. I thought that was 879 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,000 Speaker 1: so funny, as I grant you should start doing that 880 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,360 Speaker 1: snake's in the toilet snake. Also, I noticed, unless it 881 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,920 Speaker 1: was a computer, Glitch seemed to drink a little bit 882 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 1: of his piss. 883 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,879 Speaker 2: Did not notice that I think he did. 884 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,760 Speaker 1: And then he jumps on and then he says, fucking bitch, 885 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 1: get off my dick. Is what he says to the 886 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,359 Speaker 1: snake that's killing He. 887 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,800 Speaker 2: Says the snake who is biting his dick off. Maybe 888 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:46,239 Speaker 2: contrary to popular belief, I think that when a man 889 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:52,360 Speaker 2: says hi, big boy to his penis that passes the 890 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:53,120 Speaker 2: Bechdel test. 891 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,359 Speaker 1: I see, the only time I would be saying hi, 892 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,560 Speaker 1: big boy is when I'm walking into Bob's Big Boy 893 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,399 Speaker 1: in Burbank, California. I'm passing the statue and I say hi, 894 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 1: big boy because that's his name. Yeah, but I did wonder. 895 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:12,920 Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, you know cis masculinity is so twisted. Yeah, 896 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,120 Speaker 1: any any any listeners say, hi, big boy, will they pee? 897 00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:20,360 Speaker 1: And if not, you know, let us know if it's fun, 898 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 1: Hi big boy. No, how's my big boy? 899 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:25,640 Speaker 2: Which is even weird, how's my big boy? 900 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,960 Speaker 1: Initiating our conversation. Yeah, that was never answered because that 901 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:34,480 Speaker 1: Penis was not long for this world. Usually I've assumed 902 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,479 Speaker 1: that Penis would answer, Yeah, the early kills I thought 903 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,160 Speaker 1: were the best, the kills they sort of got, except 904 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,600 Speaker 1: for one that we'll come back to. The British guy. 905 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 2: Oh sure, yes, yes, yes, that was good. Yeah. Okay, 906 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 2: so the snakes are attacking, but it's like little by 907 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,840 Speaker 2: little at first. Here we also see some snakes bite 908 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 2: some of the wiring. Yeah, which causes a bunch of 909 00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,839 Speaker 2: like electrical failures on the plane, which like sort of 910 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,160 Speaker 2: doesn't really do any or didn't do anything. That was 911 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,080 Speaker 2: clear to me because every time the plane starts crashing, 912 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,080 Speaker 2: it's because the pilot is dead. 913 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 1: Right, But then that has always resolved by like when 914 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,239 Speaker 1: someone would it's a big me laugh and not to 915 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:17,840 Speaker 1: be overly didatic because it's. 916 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:18,240 Speaker 2: The B movie. 917 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:23,879 Speaker 1: But without fail, anytime the plane was crashing, it would 918 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,080 Speaker 1: be resolved by someone who knew how to fly a plane, 919 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:30,440 Speaker 1: be like put autopilot back on, and I was like, 920 00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 1: surely they're in touch with base camp or whatever. I'm like, 921 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 1: why didn't they just say do that if that is 922 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,920 Speaker 1: gonna solve Like even when David character almost comes back 923 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,840 Speaker 1: from the dead, he literally like just put auto pilot on? 924 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,200 Speaker 1: Why don't they just do that? Like how do Sam 925 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,080 Speaker 1: Jackson not? And it's apparently just you know, I don't 926 00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,640 Speaker 1: know anything about flying planes, but it's a clearly labeled button. 927 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:54,160 Speaker 1: Wouldn't you just press it? 928 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,399 Speaker 2: One might think you know. 929 00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:02,120 Speaker 1: That the minions can land a plane better than these guys. 930 00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:03,160 Speaker 1: Think about that. 931 00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,439 Speaker 2: I do reference that later in my notes. Yeahk god, 932 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:13,920 Speaker 2: thank god, Fret not Jamie. Okay, good, Okay, So the snakes, 933 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:18,200 Speaker 2: the snakes are emerging. The pilot, not David Keckner, because 934 00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,480 Speaker 2: I think he's like the co pilot, the mister official 935 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:25,000 Speaker 2: pilot who is an actor who I recognize from exactly 936 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,759 Speaker 2: one scene from Josie and the Pussycats. Oh, he's the 937 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,759 Speaker 2: guy who I think he might be FBI, but he 938 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 2: like comes in to pretend to bust escentially. 939 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,799 Speaker 1: Have no fucking clue who was who in this thing? 940 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,840 Speaker 1: Like I also was like, I again, this is I 941 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,759 Speaker 1: don't know, but I was surprised that the FBI was, 942 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,239 Speaker 1: Like I thought you had to be subtle about that, 943 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,920 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't know you were like, we're the FBI, 944 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,239 Speaker 1: clear first class. I'm like, does it is? I thought 945 00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,920 Speaker 1: that that would introduce like a safety vulnerability. 946 00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:02,600 Speaker 2: Right, shouldn't they be more covert? Remindminds me of that 947 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:07,600 Speaker 2: that part in point break where Keanu's character who's supposed 948 00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:12,360 Speaker 2: to be undercover is like loudly introducing himself with his 949 00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:17,399 Speaker 2: like full real name, is like not being covert at all. 950 00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,440 Speaker 1: I'm just like, no, Like it's you know, and we're 951 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,879 Speaker 1: supposed to believe this is the government agency that has 952 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,799 Speaker 1: gotten away with killing MLK for half a century. I 953 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,839 Speaker 1: don't think so, Like you gotta be a little better 954 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,719 Speaker 1: than that. And also not to keep bringing Lost back 955 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,359 Speaker 1: into it, but I've got a I'm a Lost fan, 956 00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,560 Speaker 1: Like they're one of the characters, and Lost is being 957 00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:42,680 Speaker 1: like escorted by a federal agent internationally in the pilot 958 00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:44,880 Speaker 1: of Loss and they're sitting in coach Because you're not 959 00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,280 Speaker 1: supposed to be really obvious about. 960 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:52,399 Speaker 2: That, right, there's another Oh my gosh, I forgot it's Kate. 961 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:53,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 962 00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:57,880 Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, there's a movie. Is it Midnight Run? I 963 00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:02,520 Speaker 2: always get this movie confuse with another movie. I think 964 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,840 Speaker 2: it is Midnight Run, where like the whole premise of 965 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:10,560 Speaker 2: that is. I think it's Robert de Niro's he's the 966 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:15,480 Speaker 2: agent and Charles Grodin is the like criminal or whatever 967 00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,640 Speaker 2: under custody. And I don't remember what else happens in 968 00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 2: that movie. It's been a really long time since I've 969 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:25,640 Speaker 2: seen it. But yeah, there's whole movies with this premise anyway. Okay, 970 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,319 Speaker 2: So the pilot he's in chosing the Pussycats as well. 971 00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:33,160 Speaker 2: He goes to fix the electrical problems that the snakes 972 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:37,160 Speaker 2: on the plane have caused. But a snake, the motherfucking snakes. 973 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:38,600 Speaker 2: The snakes on the. 974 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 1: Snake really make you wait for that line, They really do. 975 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,720 Speaker 2: But honestly, when it happens. 976 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,080 Speaker 1: It's worth it. Oh it's worth it, You're like, and 977 00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,000 Speaker 1: that is why Sam Jackson is a movie star. 978 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:54,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, precisely. Okay, So a snake bites the pilot and 979 00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:59,719 Speaker 2: he dies, and the crew is like, darn well, let's 980 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,880 Speaker 2: keep petting to La. We're over halfway. 981 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,399 Speaker 1: There that Okay, yes, I have I have notes on 982 00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,360 Speaker 1: just the bizarre. I'm like, they must have shot this 983 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,880 Speaker 1: absurdly out of order. I'm wondering how many script changes 984 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:17,280 Speaker 1: happened because the lack of reaction. There's a David Kector 985 00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:21,239 Speaker 1: read that just cracked me up. Wait where is it? 986 00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:26,080 Speaker 1: I have so many notes? Oh yeah, he first, like 987 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,799 Speaker 1: the David. I think it's Rick, who's like I've worked 988 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,120 Speaker 1: with him for decades. 989 00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:31,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, a decade. 990 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,040 Speaker 1: And then and then just is soullessly may day, may day, 991 00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,479 Speaker 1: may day, he has suffered a fatal heart attack. We're 992 00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:42,919 Speaker 1: gonna keep flying. You're just like, okay. And then there's 993 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,680 Speaker 1: like just these matter of matter of fact readings that 994 00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,359 Speaker 1: made me laugh so much. Eddie somehow managed to fill 995 00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:51,400 Speaker 1: the plane with poisonous snakes. And you're like, yeah, sure, 996 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,960 Speaker 1: because we haven't even gotten to Bobby Canavale. No, Bobby Canavale, 997 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:55,760 Speaker 1: the poor an addict. 998 00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:58,439 Speaker 2: Oh is he? I didn't know that about him. 999 00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:00,640 Speaker 1: That's for a while, the only thing we know about 1000 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,800 Speaker 1: him is they're like, what are you doing watching his character? 1001 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:08,719 Speaker 1: Not his Oh I don't. I don't know anything about it. Sorry, 1002 00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:12,520 Speaker 1: I mean his character Loves is not catching astray from me. 1003 00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:17,400 Speaker 1: I don't know a thing about him. Love just working it. Tanya, Oh, sure, 1004 00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:23,000 Speaker 1: he's in it for about one minute. But yeah, his character. 1005 00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:27,319 Speaker 1: I was like, he also seems everyone's kind of in on. 1006 00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:28,960 Speaker 2: The joke here, I hope. 1007 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,719 Speaker 1: So he later says the line that's gonna leave a mark. 1008 00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, he can't think this is going to be 1009 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,120 Speaker 1: a career to finding you know. 1010 00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:42,720 Speaker 2: You never know. Okay, so let's see the pilots dead. 1011 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:48,520 Speaker 2: Just then tons of snakes on the plane attack all 1012 00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:52,400 Speaker 2: at once. A bunch of people get bitten and die immediately. 1013 00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,040 Speaker 2: These are mostly like extras who we haven't really met. 1014 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,919 Speaker 2: We don't know them. Yes, but one of the little 1015 00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,920 Speaker 2: boys we do know gets bitten. One of three G's 1016 00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:05,440 Speaker 2: bodyguards gets bitten, the one who isn't Keenan Thompson on the. 1017 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:09,920 Speaker 1: Ass ass introduced homophobic two thousand and six. 1018 00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:15,000 Speaker 2: Side plot, Yes exactly. Let's see the woman with the 1019 00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:22,400 Speaker 2: baby gets knocked unconscious. There's a part where the flight attendant, Grace, 1020 00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:26,040 Speaker 2: she's the older one who's like about to retire, kind 1021 00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:30,120 Speaker 2: of sacrifices herself to save the young woman's baby. Because 1022 00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:31,080 Speaker 2: old women. 1023 00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:34,360 Speaker 1: Are disposable and must die for the young. I really 1024 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:38,520 Speaker 1: loved Grace was a fun character. They did her dirty, 1025 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:39,120 Speaker 1: I know. 1026 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:45,280 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Flynn is like zapping the snakes with his taser. 1027 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:49,320 Speaker 2: He's got so many weapons wand board. You know he's FBI, 1028 00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:53,200 Speaker 2: but he brought all his weapons on the plane into 1029 00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:53,720 Speaker 2: the cabin. 1030 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,959 Speaker 1: Again, very like pre nine to eleven plot point there. 1031 00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:05,160 Speaker 2: Right, Eventually, the survivors who didn't die from this like 1032 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,040 Speaker 2: initial burst. 1033 00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:08,759 Speaker 1: Of attacks, mostly blonde women. 1034 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,600 Speaker 2: Lots of blonde women, they managed to kind of like 1035 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:15,360 Speaker 2: barricade themselves into one area of the plane and block 1036 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,800 Speaker 2: the snakes using a bunch of luggage. 1037 00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,760 Speaker 1: I really, I mean again, you know, he couldn't have known, 1038 00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,280 Speaker 1: but it is very bone chilling, saying like his first 1039 00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,640 Speaker 1: suggestion being like we need to build a wall. You're 1040 00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:31,160 Speaker 1: like that line is going to age extraordinarily poorly. Yeah, 1041 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,080 Speaker 1: and also the fact that he's an FBI agent with 1042 00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,920 Speaker 1: a million weapons and that's his best idea. But whatever, 1043 00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:38,640 Speaker 1: it seems to work. 1044 00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,000 Speaker 2: It takes them forever to get the idea to go 1045 00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,280 Speaker 2: upstairs into first class. 1046 00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,600 Speaker 1: But then it's like Titanic, like it's the end of 1047 00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:50,080 Speaker 1: the tame. They're like, ah, they cannot get upstairs in 1048 00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:55,800 Speaker 1: an orderly fashion. The stairs break. It's like, it's ridiculous. 1049 00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:56,920 Speaker 2: It's awesome. 1050 00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:58,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. 1051 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:03,040 Speaker 2: It's around this time when the other FBI agent Sanders 1052 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:08,200 Speaker 2: dies from a snake bite. Also, he declares earlier his 1053 00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,320 Speaker 2: fear of snakes. Yeah, so this is an especially bad 1054 00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,120 Speaker 2: trip for him, and then he dies. 1055 00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,560 Speaker 1: I love those moments in horror movies. We also get 1056 00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,960 Speaker 1: a similar moment with Grace where they're like he was 1057 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:22,040 Speaker 1: my best friend. You're like okay. Like same with David 1058 00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,800 Speaker 1: Kackner and the Pilot, You're like, well, I'm sorry, I 1059 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,240 Speaker 1: feel nothing at all, Like I don't know who this 1060 00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:27,840 Speaker 1: person is. 1061 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:32,320 Speaker 2: Because the movie treats Agent Sanders death like it's this 1062 00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,520 Speaker 2: deeply tragic moment that the audience is going to have 1063 00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:40,320 Speaker 2: to like really pause and contemplate. But we're like, who 1064 00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,240 Speaker 2: is who the fuck is this guy? Again? I don't 1065 00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:43,959 Speaker 2: know him? 1066 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,600 Speaker 1: The three deaths, I think we were supposed to feel 1067 00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:50,320 Speaker 1: a way about where like the Pilot, the Partner and Grace, 1068 00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,600 Speaker 1: and Grace was the only one and that was strictly 1069 00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,280 Speaker 1: on the performance where I thought that was a very 1070 00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,840 Speaker 1: charming performance, what a cool lady too bad she. 1071 00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:03,320 Speaker 2: Died, So okay. Then Samuel L. Jackson uses the airplane 1072 00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:07,360 Speaker 2: telephone to call his FBI buddy on the ground, this 1073 00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:13,520 Speaker 2: is Harris, and tell him that famous mobster Eddie Kim 1074 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,880 Speaker 2: put all of these snakes on the plane in order 1075 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,440 Speaker 2: to bring the plane down to kill Sean so that 1076 00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,960 Speaker 2: he can't testify against him in court. 1077 00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,640 Speaker 1: Amazing plan, to which again Bobby cana Valley has like 1078 00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:31,960 Speaker 1: absurdly no reaction to, Like He's like, oh God, that sucks. 1079 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,520 Speaker 1: I paused his scene because we're told a bunch of 1080 00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:40,400 Speaker 1: like Bobby canna Valley's stock character information where they're like 1081 00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,520 Speaker 1: he's addicted to poor and he hates his children. 1082 00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,120 Speaker 2: And hates his children. 1083 00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,000 Speaker 1: I paused his office to be like, what are we 1084 00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:49,640 Speaker 1: supposed to be alread to hear? He has like a 1085 00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:53,040 Speaker 1: bunch of bobbleheads of I think one was George W. Bush. 1086 00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,320 Speaker 1: I think he had the Declarty of Independence framed in 1087 00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,440 Speaker 1: his office. I'm like, what am I supposed to be 1088 00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:01,360 Speaker 1: thinking about this man? But anyways, I was glad he 1089 01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,160 Speaker 1: at least stayed in the movie, because I thought he 1090 01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,000 Speaker 1: was just gonna be in that office and did all 1091 01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,160 Speaker 1: of his scenes in like fourteen minutes because he just 1092 01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,840 Speaker 1: pays it around being like I hate my kids, I 1093 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:13,880 Speaker 1: hate like I love war, or like whatever the hell 1094 01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:15,480 Speaker 1: is going on with him. But at least he goes 1095 01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,960 Speaker 1: to a second location and meets like I wrote down 1096 01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:24,360 Speaker 1: snake Tobias Funke is what it felt like to me, 1097 01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:25,960 Speaker 1: But I don't know. 1098 01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I see it, I see it. That guy's about 1099 01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:33,320 Speaker 2: to show up, but yeah, before that happens, the young 1100 01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:38,080 Speaker 2: mother knows how to suck venom out of a snake bite. 1101 01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,120 Speaker 2: Oh my god, so she does this for that little 1102 01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:41,640 Speaker 2: boy who got bitten. 1103 01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:43,160 Speaker 1: Which of course has made a sex joke. 1104 01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:49,600 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, austing three gs entourage see her administering 1105 01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:53,160 Speaker 2: like medical care to a child, and they're like, child 1106 01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:57,040 Speaker 2: hubba hubba a wooga, I want her to suck me 1107 01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:57,720 Speaker 2: like that. 1108 01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,760 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, this same character has refused help from a man 1109 01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:05,160 Speaker 1: he thinks is gay, because fellas, is it gay to 1110 01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:10,880 Speaker 1: survive a snake bite? Like just really ridiculous two thousand 1111 01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,520 Speaker 1: and six nonsense going on, truly. 1112 01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:17,960 Speaker 2: So meanwhile, Bobby Kinavale gets to work on finding a 1113 01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:23,440 Speaker 2: snake expert. This guy, doctor Stephen Price aka VI expert 1114 01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:28,400 Speaker 2: to k who figures out that there must be something 1115 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:32,200 Speaker 2: provoking the snakes to cause them to be so aggressive, 1116 01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,760 Speaker 2: a pheromone perhaps, And I feel like. 1117 01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,240 Speaker 1: He's like I felt Jurassic Parky a little bit. 1118 01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:39,760 Speaker 2: Kind of well because there's such an emphasis on like 1119 01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:44,680 Speaker 2: female reptiles, because he's like, well, female snakes emit a 1120 01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:49,439 Speaker 2: pheromone and it makes the males very aggressive. So it's like, okay, great, 1121 01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:50,680 Speaker 2: blame everything. 1122 01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:54,880 Speaker 1: On creat the girl snakes somehow became women's fault, and 1123 01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,880 Speaker 1: we got there. Yeah, I think there's a concept of 1124 01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,720 Speaker 1: I feel like it almost ties into like, and this 1125 01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,000 Speaker 1: is again very cis normative, but there are so many 1126 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,280 Speaker 1: sis men who write these kinds of movies, of like 1127 01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:11,360 Speaker 1: the gigantic number of pussy monsters we see in horror movies, 1128 01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:15,480 Speaker 1: and and just using pheromones, like female pheromones as a 1129 01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:19,160 Speaker 1: weapon also just feels very like seems like more of 1130 01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:24,000 Speaker 1: a you prob that we see pop up in specifically 1131 01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:25,280 Speaker 1: genre movies a lot. 1132 01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:29,080 Speaker 2: Sure, it's like, take the idea of the fem fatal, 1133 01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,480 Speaker 2: apply it to snakes on a plane. Come on, bam, 1134 01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:33,080 Speaker 2: you've got. 1135 01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:37,280 Speaker 1: A movie at very least oh single woman fights a snake. 1136 01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:43,040 Speaker 1: Everyone else needs a boyfriend, but Claire evil Zionus. Claire 1137 01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,720 Speaker 1: does fight a snake and then I we'll get to 1138 01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:47,360 Speaker 1: the love story. 1139 01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:47,960 Speaker 2: Because I was. 1140 01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,320 Speaker 1: Baffled by that. I was like, oh, I did not 1141 01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:54,280 Speaker 1: see that coming. I was not into I was not 1142 01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:54,760 Speaker 1: into it. 1143 01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. I have a whole spiel on that as well. Yeah, okay, 1144 01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:04,000 Speaker 2: So so the snake expert is figuring different things out 1145 01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:08,120 Speaker 2: and they need to find a way to show this 1146 01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,520 Speaker 2: expert what kinds of snakes are on board so he 1147 01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,320 Speaker 2: can figure out what like types of anti venom to get. 1148 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,200 Speaker 2: And there's a whole scene where in two thousand and 1149 01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:23,680 Speaker 2: six they learn how cell phone cameras and email works 1150 01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:27,040 Speaker 2: and they managed to send an email from like a 1151 01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:31,560 Speaker 2: BlackBerry or whatever the fuck on the plane pre the 1152 01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,880 Speaker 2: era of planes having Wi Fi or anything like that. 1153 01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:38,040 Speaker 1: And also I'm like, I honestly I could I couldn't 1154 01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,360 Speaker 1: tell you, but I'm like, I was unclear if the 1155 01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,360 Speaker 1: power on the plane was even working at that point. 1156 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,280 Speaker 2: I think it wasn't. I think that the snakes had 1157 01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:50,960 Speaker 2: chewed through the electricity. 1158 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:53,200 Speaker 1: I really loved that plot hole. I thought that plot 1159 01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:58,520 Speaker 1: hole was iconic. No no accounting for it. Ten out 1160 01:03:58,520 --> 01:03:59,560 Speaker 1: of ten amazing. 1161 01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:05,560 Speaker 2: Then the flight attendant Claire discovers that the co pilot Rick, 1162 01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:09,840 Speaker 2: this is the David Keckner character, is incapacitated and no 1163 01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:15,000 Speaker 2: one's flying the plane and it's nose diving into the ocean. 1164 01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,400 Speaker 2: So Claire and agent Flynn have to step in and 1165 01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:21,960 Speaker 2: try to pull the plane back up. Allah that scene 1166 01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:22,960 Speaker 2: from Minions to. 1167 01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:29,720 Speaker 1: Exactly as Minions did it better Manian had more chemistry 1168 01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:30,280 Speaker 1: with each other. 1169 01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:35,840 Speaker 2: Oh, let's be honest, seriously. Yeah, okay. So meanwhile the 1170 01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:40,000 Speaker 2: barricade of like just suitcases stacked on each other. 1171 01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,120 Speaker 1: Amazing plan, good job. 1172 01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,440 Speaker 2: You won't believe it, but it falls apart. 1173 01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:46,640 Speaker 1: Your tax dollars at work everybody. 1174 01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:51,760 Speaker 2: And all the snakes are coming through and attacking people again, 1175 01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:57,520 Speaker 2: including like the honeymoon couple. That mean British guy feeds 1176 01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,880 Speaker 2: Mercedes little dog to the snakes, but the he gets like. 1177 01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:05,360 Speaker 1: Mary Kate, I think like Twins. I was like, it's 1178 01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:09,280 Speaker 1: just so two thousand and six, it's exhaustive. The I 1179 01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,080 Speaker 1: loved the rich guy death where the snake I mean, 1180 01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,960 Speaker 1: because it had been a while since we'd had a 1181 01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,800 Speaker 1: good snake death at that true thought. It was mostly 1182 01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:21,200 Speaker 1: just like Oi Oi Oi and then we get the 1183 01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:25,520 Speaker 1: rich guy's swallowed whole via his head awesome. 1184 01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:28,920 Speaker 2: By what I would call a big boy snake. 1185 01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:33,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, how's my big boy? Well, well he's he's hungry 1186 01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:36,280 Speaker 4: and he's eating the mean man. I do appreciate that 1187 01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,640 Speaker 4: he gets like instant karma killed, yes, because he like 1188 01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,440 Speaker 4: feeds the dog to the snakes. But then he immediately 1189 01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:46,960 Speaker 4: gets eaten by very satisfying something boa constrictor. 1190 01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:50,240 Speaker 1: I don't fucking I was like, could that have even happened? 1191 01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:54,040 Speaker 1: I literally do not know, and I none of my business. 1192 01:05:56,600 --> 01:06:02,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not scientists. Yeah, okay, So then everyone finally 1193 01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:06,480 Speaker 2: goes upstairs to first class again unclear why they didn't 1194 01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,080 Speaker 2: think of this earlier because that seems like a pretty 1195 01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:10,080 Speaker 2: good idea. 1196 01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:11,280 Speaker 1: And empty for like an hour. 1197 01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:17,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, then David Keector comes back to life and starts 1198 01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:20,000 Speaker 2: piloting the plane again. He's like, oh, I'm fine. 1199 01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:24,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, He's like, I'm fine, and then he's like, sure, 1200 01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:27,320 Speaker 1: you don't want to take your top off, babe, and 1201 01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:32,440 Speaker 1: she's like, Rick, you're still yourself and he's like but 1202 01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:36,520 Speaker 1: then like he puts the plane on auto pilot. Why 1203 01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:40,320 Speaker 1: don't they just keep doing that? I don't know, I 1204 01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:44,520 Speaker 1: you know, viewed as camp. That is an amazing moment 1205 01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:47,640 Speaker 1: in the movie. I wonder so ridiculous. 1206 01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,600 Speaker 2: I wonder if autopilot is sort of like cruise control 1207 01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:55,320 Speaker 2: on a car. I don't know what autopilot does. Any listeners, 1208 01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:55,720 Speaker 2: you know. 1209 01:06:56,840 --> 01:07:01,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, and including if Keenan Thompson listening, well 1210 01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:03,360 Speaker 1: he is, and he's anything like this character. If he doesn't, 1211 01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:07,480 Speaker 1: he doesn't know either, so he. 1212 01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:11,400 Speaker 2: Doesn't, okay. In the meantime, on the ground, Bobby Canavale 1213 01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:15,360 Speaker 2: and the snake expert discover that most of the snakes 1214 01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:19,560 Speaker 2: on the plane are indigenous to other continents, which means 1215 01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:23,600 Speaker 2: that nearby hospitals wouldn't have the anti venom for those snakes, 1216 01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:27,320 Speaker 2: and there's only one person nearby who would have what 1217 01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,960 Speaker 2: they need, so they head to that guy's house in 1218 01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:34,800 Speaker 2: the desert. Back on the plane, this is when Grace, 1219 01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,400 Speaker 2: the flight attendant dies, So it's. 1220 01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:39,880 Speaker 1: Sad and there's all a lot of very like Hokey. 1221 01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,640 Speaker 1: We learned this about Claire. It's her last flight before 1222 01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:47,120 Speaker 1: she becomes a lawyer, and Grace is like it was 1223 01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:50,320 Speaker 1: I just had to do one last flight from Honolulu 1224 01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:53,640 Speaker 1: to la I'm like for what But anyways, she dies. 1225 01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:55,640 Speaker 2: It reminded me of Captain E. J. Smith on the 1226 01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:57,360 Speaker 2: Titanic that was his last. 1227 01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:59,160 Speaker 1: It's a classic. I mean, it's a good trope to 1228 01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:01,280 Speaker 1: be like, you know or whatever though, like it's my 1229 01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:03,760 Speaker 1: last case and that's. 1230 01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:06,320 Speaker 2: Before I retire, Before I retire. 1231 01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:09,080 Speaker 1: That's like basically what Grace is doing. But then she 1232 01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:15,760 Speaker 1: gets snaked. Sad but true, and then we learn that 1233 01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:18,559 Speaker 1: Tiffany and her were really good friends. Question Mark. We 1234 01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:20,640 Speaker 1: do not see that. I would have it would have 1235 01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:23,840 Speaker 1: made more sense if the like male flight attendant was 1236 01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:28,000 Speaker 1: grieving her because we only see them together, but we 1237 01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:30,599 Speaker 1: don't really get to see how he feels about it. 1238 01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:35,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. We also see a moment where three G's 1239 01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:39,960 Speaker 2: goes berserk and he's like waving a gun around, but 1240 01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:44,439 Speaker 2: he calms down and he apologizes. Also, the air conditioning 1241 01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:45,599 Speaker 2: has stopped working on the. 1242 01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:52,559 Speaker 1: Plane, which is why he becomes so as homicides. I 1243 01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,559 Speaker 1: think it's like implied that they're maybe running out of air, 1244 01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:59,439 Speaker 1: and he's a germophobe, so like he wants fresh air. 1245 01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:01,960 Speaker 1: But he's like, I'm gonna kill someone if I don't 1246 01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:05,200 Speaker 1: get fresh air. You're like three gees sir. 1247 01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:09,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's really goofy, and I would say it's 1248 01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:10,559 Speaker 2: extremely goofy. 1249 01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:12,120 Speaker 1: In fact, I agree. 1250 01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,280 Speaker 2: Okay, so the air conditioning isn't working, so Samuel L. 1251 01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:18,280 Speaker 2: Jackson has to go down into the cargo hold to 1252 01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:22,400 Speaker 2: reset the breakers, which, if you're if you're wiring has 1253 01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,559 Speaker 2: been chewed through by snakes. I don't know how. It's 1254 01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:28,840 Speaker 2: not like that they tripped the breaker. Resetting the breaker 1255 01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:29,759 Speaker 2: wouldn't do anything. 1256 01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:33,000 Speaker 1: Oh, I hadn't even thought about that. Well, in this 1257 01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:36,200 Speaker 1: world it does. And this is also the moment where 1258 01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:42,880 Speaker 1: it becomes like clear that he and Claire are vibing climbing. 1259 01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:45,040 Speaker 1: It wasn't work because she was like, no, let me 1260 01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:48,880 Speaker 1: go with you. I was like, what, Like, I know, 1261 01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:51,280 Speaker 1: I thought it was more of a like a paternal thing, 1262 01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:53,479 Speaker 1: but apparently it's a fucky thing. 1263 01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:55,400 Speaker 2: I did not sense that it was supposed to be 1264 01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:59,160 Speaker 2: romantic until the very end when they're like, let's get 1265 01:09:59,200 --> 01:09:59,800 Speaker 2: dinner later. 1266 01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:03,200 Speaker 1: I have to believe that was added because it was 1267 01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:07,960 Speaker 1: just like the no. I mean, you know, Sam Jackson handsome, 1268 01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:11,160 Speaker 1: charming man, but it just like there was nothing planted 1269 01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:14,360 Speaker 1: that made that make sense. The age gap felt very weird. 1270 01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:17,759 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't believe this for a second. 1271 01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:25,400 Speaker 2: Who knows. Any Way, Samuel L. Jackson goes to find 1272 01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:28,240 Speaker 2: the breakers in a scene that feels very similar to 1273 01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:32,200 Speaker 2: a scene in Jurassic Park where Samuel L. Jackson has 1274 01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:33,720 Speaker 2: to go and reset the breakers. 1275 01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:37,400 Speaker 1: Oh my god, and it's also Samuel Jackson. 1276 01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:38,200 Speaker 2: It's also him. 1277 01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:38,679 Speaker 1: Wow. 1278 01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:44,320 Speaker 2: Although in Jurassic Park he dies doing this via being 1279 01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:47,960 Speaker 2: attacked by reptiles, and in Snakes on a Plane he 1280 01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:50,639 Speaker 2: lives and the reptiles don't kill him. 1281 01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:52,680 Speaker 1: That didn't even occur to me. So that was a 1282 01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:54,600 Speaker 1: moment that that was for the fans. 1283 01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:57,000 Speaker 2: That yeah, I think so. I wonder if that was 1284 01:10:57,040 --> 01:11:03,080 Speaker 2: supposed to be an homage, but I don't know. Anyway. 1285 01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:06,640 Speaker 2: Back on the ground, Bobby Canavale goes to the like 1286 01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:11,240 Speaker 2: snake smuggler dude to get all the I don't know 1287 01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:13,280 Speaker 2: if they even get the anti venoms from him, but 1288 01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:14,960 Speaker 2: they just get a list they. 1289 01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:17,640 Speaker 1: Get literally, he's like, I need a list of the 1290 01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:22,519 Speaker 1: snakes on the plane. You're like what, And then the 1291 01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:26,479 Speaker 1: guy's like, I swear, here's the list, and he's like 1292 01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:30,600 Speaker 1: all right, thank you, and then he's fine, Like it 1293 01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:34,439 Speaker 1: just was I loved it. I loved it the Bobby 1294 01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:38,040 Speaker 1: Canivale sections, and they gave him so many goofy lines 1295 01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:41,360 Speaker 1: in this sequence where they're like, what are you doing, 1296 01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:45,760 Speaker 1: He's like, my job, and then and then he like 1297 01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:48,400 Speaker 1: shoots the guy or whatever. He's like, that's good to 1298 01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:51,439 Speaker 1: leave the mark. And it's just like Bobby Canavalle is 1299 01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:54,519 Speaker 1: just not scary, Like he's not scary and he's not cool, 1300 01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:57,240 Speaker 1: and that's why I like him. But like, I'm not 1301 01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:01,400 Speaker 1: sold on this whole like hyper mask Bobby kind of 1302 01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:02,959 Speaker 1: vallet like, no. 1303 01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:06,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, it's not doing it for me either. But anyway, 1304 01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:10,360 Speaker 2: now that they have this list of snakes, they're like, whow, 1305 01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:14,960 Speaker 2: everything's gonna be a okay, and so everyone kind of 1306 01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:18,280 Speaker 2: just like breathe a sigh of relief. The sun is 1307 01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:20,160 Speaker 2: coming up because by the way, this has been a 1308 01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:24,360 Speaker 2: red eye flight the whole time, right, But then they 1309 01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:31,040 Speaker 2: realize that the co pilot, David Keckner, died again and 1310 01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:37,160 Speaker 2: no one's flying the plane again. But don't worry. In 1311 01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:42,400 Speaker 2: the Diosex Machina of the Century, Keenan Thompson knows how 1312 01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:46,719 Speaker 2: to fly a plane, so he's gonna land this plane. 1313 01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:49,840 Speaker 2: But wait, there's a bunch of snakes in the cockpit, 1314 01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:53,120 Speaker 2: which is when Samuel L. Jackson says the best line 1315 01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:56,520 Speaker 2: in cinema history. I have had it with these motherfucking 1316 01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:59,880 Speaker 2: snakes on this motherfucking plane. And so to get rid 1317 01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:03,320 Speaker 2: of these motherfucking snakes on this motherfucking plane, he. 1318 01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:07,479 Speaker 1: Almost kills everybody and then goes to a safe area 1319 01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:10,920 Speaker 1: with Keenan Thompson like, he just leaves everyone for dead, 1320 01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:14,439 Speaker 1: including children, including a baby. Right, you couldn't have brought 1321 01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:16,800 Speaker 1: a couple. You could have brought the kids with you 1322 01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,840 Speaker 1: into the cockpit. They're like, no, best of Yeah. 1323 01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:22,200 Speaker 2: They don't have the strength to hang on. Best of 1324 01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:25,519 Speaker 2: luck in there, right, because what they do is they 1325 01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:29,519 Speaker 2: literally shoot holes in the plane with Samuel L. Jackson's 1326 01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:34,200 Speaker 2: FBI gun, which makes all the snakes go flying out. 1327 01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:37,599 Speaker 2: Everyone has to hang on for dear life. And then 1328 01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:41,360 Speaker 2: Keenan Thompson successfully lands the plane, even though we find 1329 01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:45,920 Speaker 2: out that the quote unquote flight experience he has has 1330 01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:49,320 Speaker 2: all been via playing video games on PlayStation two. 1331 01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:55,360 Speaker 1: And this is kind of a fun moment. Keenan seems 1332 01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:57,160 Speaker 1: to be having a good time. I hope so, because 1333 01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:02,800 Speaker 1: otherwise was he doing here and yeah, they land the 1334 01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:05,360 Speaker 1: plane just like the Minions did in sam Panpisco. 1335 01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:07,320 Speaker 2: That's so true, Jamie. 1336 01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:09,800 Speaker 1: Thanks. Remember when I said that at our show in 1337 01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:13,280 Speaker 1: San Francisco and it got less than nothing. It was 1338 01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:16,519 Speaker 1: like just a black hole of reaction. If you're at 1339 01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:18,559 Speaker 1: that show, you should have laughed. Do you really let 1340 01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:20,920 Speaker 1: me down in that moment? That that didn't feel good? 1341 01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:22,040 Speaker 1: And I think about it often. 1342 01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:26,599 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I I think I reacted you. 1343 01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:29,880 Speaker 1: Oh you you laugh. I was like woooo yeah, which 1344 01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:33,439 Speaker 1: almost emphasized how no one else was laughing because he 1345 01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:37,840 Speaker 1: said woo. But I needed I needed to do in 1346 01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:38,800 Speaker 1: that moment you were there. 1347 01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:41,680 Speaker 2: I really tried to be there for you. 1348 01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:42,240 Speaker 1: I know. 1349 01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:45,559 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, they don't land in San pan Pisco in 1350 01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:50,320 Speaker 2: this movie. They Oh how would the Minion say Los Angeles? Oh? 1351 01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:53,160 Speaker 1: I feel like they'd be like how so true? 1352 01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:56,360 Speaker 2: So true, And that's where they land the plane. Various 1353 01:14:56,439 --> 01:15:03,160 Speaker 2: first responders are there to administer anti venom, and the survivors, 1354 01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:05,840 Speaker 2: you know, they safely get off the plane. But just 1355 01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:13,519 Speaker 2: as Sean remember him, No, he's about to get off 1356 01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:16,240 Speaker 2: the plane, but a snake bites him on the chest. 1357 01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:22,280 Speaker 2: So Samuel al Jackson shoots the snakes slash Sean's chest, 1358 01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:27,479 Speaker 2: which is fine because Sean was wearing a bulletproof vest 1359 01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:28,320 Speaker 2: the whole time. 1360 01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:31,520 Speaker 1: And then he's now he's Tiffany's boyfriend. 1361 01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:37,360 Speaker 2: Right. There's a bunch of like forced hetero romances at 1362 01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:43,000 Speaker 2: the very end, including a huge, big twist that Ken, 1363 01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:47,200 Speaker 2: the flight attendant who the movie kept implying was probably gay, 1364 01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:51,599 Speaker 2: has a beautiful girlfriend and he's straight after all. 1365 01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:54,439 Speaker 1: And everyone, like all of his coworkers are like whoa. 1366 01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:56,760 Speaker 1: But it was implied that they knew each other quite well. 1367 01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:59,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, right, did they not know that he was 1368 01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:02,920 Speaker 1: in like long term relationship? Also, like this is way 1369 01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:04,840 Speaker 1: beside the boy But how did she get down to 1370 01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:06,840 Speaker 1: the tarmac? Like that's a good that's a pre nine 1371 01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:11,519 Speaker 1: to eleven thing. Yeah, yes, whatever, yeah whatever, you know, 1372 01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:13,080 Speaker 1: that's not what this is about. 1373 01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:17,559 Speaker 2: No, And then the movie ends with Sean and Samuel 1374 01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:22,599 Speaker 2: Willow Jackson surfing together in BALI question mark because that's 1375 01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:26,439 Speaker 2: what Sean had been talking about wanting to do. The end. 1376 01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:30,880 Speaker 1: Yay, I loved it. I guess let's take it. We've 1377 01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:34,960 Speaker 1: been taken a break in an hour and a half, we've. 1378 01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:37,960 Speaker 2: Been recording for so long already and we haven't even started. 1379 01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,720 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's time for another snake break. 1380 01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:54,040 Speaker 1: And we're back. We're back from the snake break. How 1381 01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:56,200 Speaker 1: is your savait? How's my big boy? 1382 01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:00,559 Speaker 2: Your big boy if you mean me? 1383 01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:01,240 Speaker 1: Hm? 1384 01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:04,080 Speaker 2: Great? Oh good? How's my big boy? 1385 01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:07,720 Speaker 1: I'm doing okay, I'm I'm so. I'm like, we've talked. 1386 01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:09,320 Speaker 2: A lot about something. 1387 01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:13,320 Speaker 1: Movie. I don't yeah, I've like it's like we're even 1388 01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:16,960 Speaker 1: to begin, Like, is this movie massages? Yes? Is this 1389 01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:17,759 Speaker 1: movie racist? 1390 01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:18,400 Speaker 2: Yes? 1391 01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:20,559 Speaker 1: Is this movie homophobic? Yes? 1392 01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:26,760 Speaker 2: Is this movie agist yes? Yes? Is this movie fat phobic? Yes? Yes? 1393 01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:31,320 Speaker 1: I can't really think of a single subversion. 1394 01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:37,200 Speaker 2: That happens, no, nor I yeah. Most attempts at jokes 1395 01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:43,160 Speaker 2: in this movie are at the expense of a marginalized group. 1396 01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:46,759 Speaker 1: I think that the most extreme, the most frustrating example 1397 01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:48,679 Speaker 1: of that to me, was the single woman of color, 1398 01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:53,559 Speaker 1: yeah who. We don't know what her nationality is, but 1399 01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:57,040 Speaker 1: she's the only woman of color. She's over forty, so 1400 01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:59,559 Speaker 1: we're already like, this isn't going to end well for her. 1401 01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:02,960 Speaker 1: She's not extremely thin, and so's she's made out to 1402 01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:06,559 Speaker 1: be an alcoholic, you know, knowing that you're watching a 1403 01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:08,960 Speaker 1: snake slasher a movie. You're like, this woman is going 1404 01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:12,280 Speaker 1: to be made to die in a very humiliating way, 1405 01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:15,960 Speaker 1: for sure, And that is precisely what happens. She is 1406 01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:20,840 Speaker 1: ostensibly sexually assaulted by a CGI snake and then has 1407 01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:23,839 Speaker 1: her eye gouged out ultimately right. 1408 01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:26,200 Speaker 2: Even before that, So when she's like boarding the plane, 1409 01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:31,000 Speaker 2: three G's fat shames her, right and then also fat 1410 01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:34,320 Speaker 2: shames his friend Keenan Thompson and like talks about the 1411 01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:37,560 Speaker 2: baby that they would make together, like it's just disgusting, 1412 01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:41,240 Speaker 2: and then yeah, she sits down, she takes out a 1413 01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:45,160 Speaker 2: flask and starts drinking from it. She's characterized as being 1414 01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:48,200 Speaker 2: so oblivious that she doesn't notice that a snake is 1415 01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:51,840 Speaker 2: slithering up her dress. And then she's one of the 1416 01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:54,240 Speaker 2: first people to die, not the first, but no, very 1417 01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:55,000 Speaker 2: gruesome death. 1418 01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:58,240 Speaker 1: And they really drag it out too, like they it's 1419 01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:03,519 Speaker 1: multiple beats. We never learn anything about her. There might 1420 01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:06,919 Speaker 1: be an implication that she's native Hawaiian. I'm not totally sure. 1421 01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:12,040 Speaker 1: I just like any negative trope you could associate with 1422 01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:15,920 Speaker 1: any number of marginalized groups is present in this I 1423 01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:18,559 Speaker 1: think unnamed character because she's also traveling alone. 1424 01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:19,320 Speaker 2: Correct. 1425 01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:20,760 Speaker 1: I don't even know what else to say. I mean, 1426 01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:22,559 Speaker 1: that was like one of the things about this movie 1427 01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:26,840 Speaker 1: that I was like, this is like deeply gross. 1428 01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:27,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. 1429 01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:31,839 Speaker 1: And then outside of Sam Jackson, the only black characters 1430 01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:35,400 Speaker 1: that we get to know are a like very broadly 1431 01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:40,920 Speaker 1: written rapper and his two security guards. And so I think, 1432 01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:44,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, Sam Jackson makes one reference 1433 01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:46,000 Speaker 1: to race, not that I was like, I want this 1434 01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:48,240 Speaker 1: movie to have more commentary about race, Like, you know, 1435 01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:50,400 Speaker 1: I don't really that's not the job of Snakes on 1436 01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:54,120 Speaker 1: a plane right now. But Sam Jackson is just playing 1437 01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:57,840 Speaker 1: the stock FBI character he if nothing else, is not 1438 01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:01,439 Speaker 1: defined by his race the course of this movie. I 1439 01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:04,160 Speaker 1: don't think you can say that for three g's and 1440 01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:06,240 Speaker 1: the key and Thompson character and the other character. There's 1441 01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:10,320 Speaker 1: just so many tropes present. It's mostly lazy writing. Yeah, 1442 01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:14,599 Speaker 1: But even the like the the later homophobia that comes 1443 01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:20,120 Speaker 1: up where I think that often, especially during like this phase, 1444 01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:23,840 Speaker 1: I mean, all men in film are very no homo, 1445 01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:27,240 Speaker 1: no homo, no homo during this period of film. But 1446 01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:30,400 Speaker 1: I think black men specifically are often made to be 1447 01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:34,880 Speaker 1: made out to seem particularly homophobic and so I at 1448 01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,800 Speaker 1: least and if any listeners disagree, please let me know. 1449 01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:42,160 Speaker 1: I just it pinged for me that the overtly homophobic 1450 01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:45,439 Speaker 1: comments were coming from people of color, because there was 1451 01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:48,519 Speaker 1: one muttered comment from I think the one Asian man 1452 01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:50,479 Speaker 1: we get to know on the plane, get to know 1453 01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:54,120 Speaker 1: he's like coming back from a kickboxing competition, and then 1454 01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:57,519 Speaker 1: gets a girlfriend. That's kind of all we know about him. 1455 01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:00,240 Speaker 1: And then and then you know, we have one What 1456 01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:02,840 Speaker 1: is the other character's name, it's not fair to call 1457 01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:07,559 Speaker 1: him not Keenan Thompson, Keith Dallas aka big Leroy. Again, 1458 01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:11,080 Speaker 1: just very lazy naming conventions here, but he is so 1459 01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:14,719 Speaker 1: you know, he's for some reason, he's not fatally bitten 1460 01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:16,599 Speaker 1: by a snake. I don't know why. Some aren't, some aren't. 1461 01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:21,439 Speaker 2: Well, the snake expert really clearly lays this out, Jamie, 1462 01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:24,320 Speaker 2: where some of the snakes will kill you within minutes, 1463 01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:28,880 Speaker 2: others within hours, and even others you can recover from 1464 01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:31,719 Speaker 2: a venomous snake bite with just a good night's sleep. 1465 01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:36,640 Speaker 1: It's almost like whatever the script requires can be possible. 1466 01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:41,599 Speaker 1: But he gets bitten on his ass, yes, and then 1467 01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:47,080 Speaker 1: there's this big homophobic beat of Ken, who's referred to 1468 01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:52,120 Speaker 1: on scholarly journal Wikipedia as an eccentric flight attendant, which 1469 01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:54,799 Speaker 1: I guess is that writer's way of saying queer coded. 1470 01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:57,880 Speaker 1: But in any case, you know, venom needs to be 1471 01:21:57,880 --> 01:21:59,719 Speaker 1: sucked out of a bite, but he's. 1472 01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:02,439 Speaker 2: Like, no home like it. You know, if a man 1473 01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:04,080 Speaker 2: can't do it, that would be. 1474 01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:07,800 Speaker 1: Too gay only for that character, that same character to 1475 01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:12,759 Speaker 1: like like hama and ahamadahamana over like you mentioned earlier, 1476 01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:17,640 Speaker 1: women sucking the venom out of a child snake bite, 1477 01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:22,280 Speaker 1: so you know, very bad broad riding. 1478 01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:27,439 Speaker 2: Yes, yep, correct. I would say the way that Hawaii 1479 01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:30,160 Speaker 2: is depicted in the movie, it's only for a few minutes, 1480 01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:35,639 Speaker 2: but all we see is like touristy people doing touristy stuff. 1481 01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:38,800 Speaker 2: There are, from what I could tell, no depictions of 1482 01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:43,720 Speaker 2: Native Hawaiians or their community or culture, not that we 1483 01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:46,719 Speaker 2: know of. Yeah, so it's just like a few shots 1484 01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:50,720 Speaker 2: of like tourists surfing and then we get on a 1485 01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:54,240 Speaker 2: plane with snakes on it. But yeah, shit like that. 1486 01:22:54,600 --> 01:23:00,280 Speaker 2: It's shit like three G's grabbing a woman's boob to 1487 01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:03,599 Speaker 2: sign it, just like assaulting a fan and then she's 1488 01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:06,280 Speaker 2: like wow, like She's like, Wow, I loved it. 1489 01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:10,519 Speaker 1: Loves every second it's It's so it's frustrating because it's 1490 01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:13,680 Speaker 1: nothing we haven't talked about on this show, but it 1491 01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:17,760 Speaker 1: is just like it feels like everything everything happens that 1492 01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:20,880 Speaker 1: could possibly happen, and I feel like, at least Keenan, 1493 01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:24,360 Speaker 1: I think Keenan's character gets a little more characterization strictly 1494 01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:28,760 Speaker 1: because it's Keenan. That was my theory because Keenan was 1495 01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:31,720 Speaker 1: already like a very well known, well loved personality. So 1496 01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:33,840 Speaker 1: I feel like they gave him a character because it 1497 01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:37,800 Speaker 1: would be a letdown to have Keenan time because I mean, yeah, 1498 01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:40,600 Speaker 1: Keenan had already been on SNL for several years at 1499 01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:43,679 Speaker 1: this point he joined, and L had been a dowser three. 1500 01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:47,479 Speaker 1: Yeah Keenan and kel like he's a he's a generational talent, 1501 01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:50,559 Speaker 1: Like you got to give this guy a character. But 1502 01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:54,559 Speaker 1: I think that the other his like counterpoint, big Leroy, 1503 01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:57,200 Speaker 1: which I did not realize that was that character's name, 1504 01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:00,680 Speaker 1: but he really suffers as a result. And they like 1505 01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:03,479 Speaker 1: almost doubled down on all of these just like lazy 1506 01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:07,160 Speaker 1: tropes to the point where I think the last word 1507 01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:09,800 Speaker 1: we hear that last line from that character is my 1508 01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:12,320 Speaker 1: ass and you're like fine. 1509 01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:18,000 Speaker 2: I mean in a different context that could be iconic, 1510 01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:21,880 Speaker 2: but is here not out not so much. 1511 01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:25,040 Speaker 1: I also think the way that Asian actors were depicted 1512 01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:26,840 Speaker 1: was not great. 1513 01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:31,439 Speaker 2: Especially with like Eddie Kim and his his minions. 1514 01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:35,040 Speaker 1: Right, which is it's like, I mean, I honestly have 1515 01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:39,680 Speaker 1: just a wild dearth of information about Like, I just 1516 01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:42,760 Speaker 1: have no interest in crime movies, mafia movies. I know that, 1517 01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:45,519 Speaker 1: you know mafia movies. There's you know, people of all 1518 01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:50,800 Speaker 1: nationalities can be in gangs whatever. For me, what was 1519 01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:54,200 Speaker 1: clicking more was that whenever you would cut to Eddie 1520 01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:58,080 Speaker 1: Kim outside of crime activity, he was like doing karate. 1521 01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:03,360 Speaker 1: Like it just felt very broad, again, very broad Americanized 1522 01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:08,000 Speaker 1: stereotypes around East Asian people were being just randomly applied 1523 01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:13,760 Speaker 1: to these American characters like Eddie Kiss from LA. I 1524 01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:14,759 Speaker 1: don't know, I just found. 1525 01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:19,439 Speaker 2: It bizarre, definitely. David Kickner's character also makes that gross 1526 01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:24,599 Speaker 2: joke that's both racist and disparaging of sex workers. Oh 1527 01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:26,839 Speaker 2: maybe I missed that one that I won't repeat. 1528 01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:32,639 Speaker 1: Blink and you'd miss an offensive thing happening in this movie. 1529 01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:35,960 Speaker 1: I mean, also, we've touched on this to some extent, 1530 01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:40,200 Speaker 1: but just the again, the very horror movie tropy approach 1531 01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:43,840 Speaker 1: to women. The only women of color, and I can't 1532 01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:46,799 Speaker 1: even say we get to know because she is mostly 1533 01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:50,240 Speaker 1: mocked in order to be established, and then is slowly 1534 01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:53,800 Speaker 1: killed in the most humiliating way they can think of. Yes, 1535 01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:57,880 Speaker 1: the rest of the women are blonde in different shades 1536 01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:01,479 Speaker 1: of blond, and they are killed or not killed in 1537 01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:06,800 Speaker 1: the order that they display moral behavior quote unquote. So 1538 01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:09,960 Speaker 1: the woman who is the blondest and has sex, of course, 1539 01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:13,800 Speaker 1: is the first to go. Tiffany seems like she is 1540 01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:17,840 Speaker 1: only rescued by the fact that she has a boyfriend. 1541 01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:21,599 Speaker 1: I would say the same for the Paris Hilton insert character, like. 1542 01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:24,519 Speaker 2: Who gets damseled and then has to be saved by 1543 01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:27,080 Speaker 2: the kickboxing tournament. 1544 01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:31,720 Speaker 1: Guys her boyfriend. Like every blonde who isn't killed is 1545 01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:35,040 Speaker 1: damseled at some point. I think the only one we 1546 01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:39,719 Speaker 1: see fight back is Claire, who is interestingly the only 1547 01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:43,360 Speaker 1: white brunette woman, which is just like so over the 1548 01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:48,679 Speaker 1: top ridiculous. It's also implied that she's the only woman 1549 01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:51,760 Speaker 1: with any ambitions outside of this, because we find out 1550 01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:54,519 Speaker 1: she's about to become a lawyer we know nothing about, 1551 01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:57,240 Speaker 1: which of course doesn't come back, but we know doesn't 1552 01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:58,040 Speaker 1: we're just told that. 1553 01:26:58,080 --> 01:26:59,759 Speaker 2: Pay off in any way or anything. 1554 01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:03,880 Speaker 1: But all of the other blonde women she's surrounded by 1555 01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:08,120 Speaker 1: appear to have either no backstory whatsoever outside of being 1556 01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:12,439 Speaker 1: horny or privileged or being a mother. So just all 1557 01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:17,519 Speaker 1: of these very stock character tropy things. I wanted to 1558 01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:21,240 Speaker 1: just take a quick moment to remind if you were 1559 01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:24,000 Speaker 1: not aware of Juliana Margulis, I just like, is just 1560 01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:27,519 Speaker 1: a very vile You can feel free to look up 1561 01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:31,559 Speaker 1: Juliana Margalise zionist comments if you would like your day 1562 01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:36,519 Speaker 1: absolutely ruined. Very unpleasant to see her pop up in 1563 01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:39,840 Speaker 1: any context. But as far as her character goes, yeah, 1564 01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:45,120 Speaker 1: it's you know, I don't know. I'm a white brunette lady, 1565 01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:48,360 Speaker 1: and I do have a rich in her life, but 1566 01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:52,280 Speaker 1: so is everyone else, Like it was, and even her 1567 01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:55,000 Speaker 1: character is just so you know, she keeps it together, 1568 01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:58,320 Speaker 1: but then she cries once. And then that was another 1569 01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:00,800 Speaker 1: moment where I was like, does it think she and 1570 01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:02,000 Speaker 1: Sam Jackson are viving? 1571 01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:04,360 Speaker 2: Like completely went over my head? 1572 01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:06,000 Speaker 1: What did you think about that? I was just so 1573 01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:06,960 Speaker 1: not into it. 1574 01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:10,880 Speaker 2: I do think it's worth pointing out that so the end, 1575 01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:15,360 Speaker 2: as we have hinted at, there are several hetero romances 1576 01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:19,960 Speaker 2: that are just wedged in at the very end. One 1577 01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:26,479 Speaker 2: is between Sean and the flight attendant named Tiffany. They 1578 01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:31,000 Speaker 2: kiss for some reason, and then he's like, yeah, i'll 1579 01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:34,760 Speaker 2: definitely see you later. Let's let's go out. I'll take 1580 01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:38,280 Speaker 2: you to dinner, blah blah blah. Now, normally a kiss 1581 01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:42,800 Speaker 2: like that would be reserved for the male protagonist and 1582 01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:47,559 Speaker 2: then some woman, but since the protagonist is Samuel L. 1583 01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:52,240 Speaker 2: Jackson and interracial on screen kisses were still not very 1584 01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:56,360 Speaker 2: common in two thousand and six. Yeah, there is this, 1585 01:28:56,680 --> 01:29:01,519 Speaker 2: you know, romance wedged in between him and the Claire character, 1586 01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:04,839 Speaker 2: but they don't have any kind of kiss or anything 1587 01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:07,320 Speaker 2: like that. It's just like, yeah, here's my number, let's 1588 01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:08,000 Speaker 2: go to dinner. 1589 01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:10,120 Speaker 1: It reminds me of I think we talked about this 1590 01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:12,640 Speaker 1: originally in Bad Boys, which I know is not a 1591 01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:13,680 Speaker 1: two thousand Smivie either. 1592 01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:16,240 Speaker 2: That are men in Black Men and Black Will Smith movies. 1593 01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:19,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, where it's you know, I think that at first glance, 1594 01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:22,000 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, wow, this movie showed restraint, not really 1595 01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:25,120 Speaker 1: leaning into it. But then there is the racialized aspect 1596 01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:29,479 Speaker 1: to it. Yeah, I collecked that as well, and I'm 1597 01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:31,760 Speaker 1: not saying that that is not happening here. I very 1598 01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:33,680 Speaker 1: much believe that it could be. I just also but 1599 01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:37,600 Speaker 1: even story wise, it's hinted at so late in the 1600 01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:42,320 Speaker 1: movie between two characters who are objectively not vibing that. 1601 01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:46,840 Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, I think they just 1602 01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:49,599 Speaker 2: like took they were they were using Speed as a 1603 01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:53,400 Speaker 2: playbook totally, and they were like, Okay, Keanu, he's the 1604 01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:59,679 Speaker 2: cop character. There's gonna be someone on the vehicle, whether 1605 01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:03,360 Speaker 2: it be a bus or a plane, who is gonna 1606 01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:10,160 Speaker 2: sort of emerge as the like prominent helper woman for Speed. 1607 01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:11,520 Speaker 2: It's Sandra Bullock's. 1608 01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:14,439 Speaker 1: Character prominent helper woman. And then yeah, Juliana Markleys is 1609 01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:17,720 Speaker 1: kind of like CVS brand Sandra Bullock and I'm in 1610 01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:19,320 Speaker 1: many ways. 1611 01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:23,000 Speaker 2: Yeah right, and then so she emerges as that character 1612 01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:25,960 Speaker 2: and the movie snakes on a plane, so it's like, well, yeah, 1613 01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:28,639 Speaker 2: of course she and the protagonists have to get together 1614 01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:32,439 Speaker 2: at the end. But they did nothing to earn that, Like, yeah, 1615 01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:34,519 Speaker 2: any moments that they were supposed to be vibing, I 1616 01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:37,400 Speaker 2: didn't pick up on it all, and it's also completely unnecessary, 1617 01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:39,599 Speaker 2: like the fact that it happens in speed I don't 1618 01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:42,840 Speaker 2: even mind because I'm like, sure, I'll look at Sandra 1619 01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:46,360 Speaker 2: Bullock and Kanu kiss and they have chemistry. 1620 01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:49,640 Speaker 1: I think it is like it and it's clearly established 1621 01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:53,000 Speaker 1: early in the movie that they're attracted to each other, Right, Yeah, 1622 01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:56,679 Speaker 1: that's important, like like that is established. 1623 01:30:56,760 --> 01:30:58,960 Speaker 2: Still unnecessary narratively. 1624 01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:02,240 Speaker 1: But you know, totally, but at least you believe that 1625 01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:05,440 Speaker 1: the movie was building towards that this happened so abruptly 1626 01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:09,000 Speaker 1: that I wouldn't be surprised to hear that that happened 1627 01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:14,160 Speaker 1: in reshoots or like it was a studio note something 1628 01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:18,400 Speaker 1: like that, because it just felt I thought about that 1629 01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:23,360 Speaker 1: conversation that we had around blockbuster movies being historically hostile 1630 01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:26,840 Speaker 1: to interracial kisses, which it just feels like one of 1631 01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:30,840 Speaker 1: many problems with that attempted relationship because it's also so 1632 01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:35,040 Speaker 1: like it feels so haphazardly, just like and here's this, 1633 01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:39,040 Speaker 1: and you're like, we definitely didn't need it. But if 1634 01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:42,479 Speaker 1: it was gonna happen, why wasn't it established at all? 1635 01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:46,679 Speaker 2: I don't know, great question, Yeah, we don't know. Here's 1636 01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:53,160 Speaker 2: another some other questions I have, Okay, uh, okay. Samuel L. 1637 01:31:53,439 --> 01:31:56,720 Speaker 2: Jackson is describing a snake at one point to the 1638 01:31:56,760 --> 01:32:00,439 Speaker 2: snake expert, and he says it's brownish on top and 1639 01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:03,960 Speaker 2: green on the bottom. Meanwhile, the snake he's describing is 1640 01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:08,799 Speaker 2: so visibly blue and purple. There's no green, there's no brown. 1641 01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:10,000 Speaker 2: I don't know what I. 1642 01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:13,960 Speaker 1: Didn't notice that. That's so funny. That's really great. 1643 01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:16,720 Speaker 2: That was just a little question I had. What was 1644 01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:21,160 Speaker 2: happening there? Another question? Okay, So the young mother with 1645 01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:25,800 Speaker 2: a baby who removes the venom from the little boy's arm. 1646 01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:28,519 Speaker 2: She's explaining how to do it. She's like, yeah, you 1647 01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:31,280 Speaker 2: swish olive oil in your mouth to steal it from 1648 01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:34,479 Speaker 2: the poison, and then you suck the poison out. But 1649 01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:36,880 Speaker 2: then she just takes a gulp of the olive oil 1650 01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:42,040 Speaker 2: and swallows it. You'd imagine that she would swish it 1651 01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:44,440 Speaker 2: around and then spit it back out. 1652 01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:47,200 Speaker 1: Like she just said she was going to do. But 1653 01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:51,000 Speaker 1: she k that's the mother's vistom or. 1654 01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:55,960 Speaker 2: Something exactly exactly. There's a moment where three g's he 1655 01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:59,240 Speaker 2: tries to breathe the oxygen out of like the oxygen 1656 01:32:59,240 --> 01:33:02,639 Speaker 2: masks that drop down from the overhead thing, but it's 1657 01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:05,479 Speaker 2: not working because they're like, oh, oxygen isn't flowing because 1658 01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:10,760 Speaker 2: of whatever, like the snake bit the electricity, and so 1659 01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:13,559 Speaker 2: the oxygen doesn't work. But then a couple scenes later, 1660 01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:17,440 Speaker 2: the little boy who had been bitten is breathing oxygen 1661 01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:20,800 Speaker 2: out of a similar oxygen men he's fine, and he's fine, 1662 01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:22,800 Speaker 2: and it seems to be working, so they forgot that 1663 01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:24,479 Speaker 2: the oxygen wasn't working. 1664 01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:26,400 Speaker 1: The rules of the plane are so all over the 1665 01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:28,920 Speaker 1: place because there's so many times where, for the bulk 1666 01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:31,360 Speaker 1: of this movie, the plane is actively crashing, but if 1667 01:33:31,360 --> 01:33:34,479 Speaker 1: you watch the scene, the examples of there being even 1668 01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:38,000 Speaker 1: vague turbulence just happens kind of whenever. But there's other 1669 01:33:38,040 --> 01:33:40,400 Speaker 1: things where it seems like it's totally fine and we're 1670 01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:43,320 Speaker 1: having full dialogue scenes and the snakes are the problem. 1671 01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:46,559 Speaker 1: There's like very rarely snakes and turbulence I'm imagining because 1672 01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:48,920 Speaker 1: that would be too hard to shoot. But then like, 1673 01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:51,840 Speaker 1: don't set the movie on a plane if that's gonna 1674 01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:52,759 Speaker 1: be too hard to shoot. 1675 01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:55,120 Speaker 2: But Jamie, the movie is called Snakes on a Plane. 1676 01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:57,840 Speaker 1: It has to be and Sam Jackson would not let 1677 01:33:57,880 --> 01:34:01,000 Speaker 1: that be changed. I know that had to have been this. 1678 01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:04,960 Speaker 1: What are your other questions I have? I only have answers. 1679 01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:09,519 Speaker 2: That was thank you so much. That was basically it. Oh, 1680 01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:14,599 Speaker 2: the the flight attendant Ken putting a snake in a 1681 01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:17,839 Speaker 2: microwave and says, who's your daddy now, bitch? 1682 01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:22,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, basically presses like I loved that. And it 1683 01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:25,400 Speaker 1: seems like he pressed the snake button on the microwave 1684 01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:28,280 Speaker 1: and the snake exploded. I was like, wow, that really 1685 01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:31,439 Speaker 1: was perfectly timed. How could he have known what microwave 1686 01:34:31,439 --> 01:34:34,000 Speaker 1: button would be like exactly three and a half seconds, 1687 01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:36,360 Speaker 1: enough time to explode the snake. 1688 01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:40,080 Speaker 2: I did not notice there was a button labeled snake 1689 01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:42,920 Speaker 2: until I watched these like a few minutes of the 1690 01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:47,519 Speaker 2: Cinema Sins video for this movie. But in another movie, 1691 01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:49,080 Speaker 2: that would have been a hilarious joke. 1692 01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:51,719 Speaker 1: But that's not what this movie is. That's my guess 1693 01:34:51,800 --> 01:34:56,479 Speaker 1: is that was a reshoot thing. Because what I think is, 1694 01:34:56,520 --> 01:34:58,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, this isn't like a part of me 1695 01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:01,639 Speaker 1: is like, would this be a fen six minute because 1696 01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:06,200 Speaker 1: the way that like internet culture influenced this at different 1697 01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:11,280 Speaker 1: moments feels like weird things like the sporks joke feels 1698 01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:13,720 Speaker 1: very two thousand and six internet culture to me, of 1699 01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:19,439 Speaker 1: like random much sporks like sporks, bacon mustache, like just 1700 01:35:19,479 --> 01:35:22,559 Speaker 1: all this fucking dorky hot topic bullshit from that period 1701 01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:28,120 Speaker 1: of time that would have cracked me the hell up exactly. Yeah, 1702 01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:32,599 Speaker 1: epic random bacon like I don't know, the Sam Jackson 1703 01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:36,400 Speaker 1: saying sporks feels very two thousand and six internet bait 1704 01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:39,840 Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, a little more the snake button. I 1705 01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:42,400 Speaker 1: don't even hate it, but it is like a very 1706 01:35:42,439 --> 01:35:46,240 Speaker 1: specific kind of annoying, and it is interesting that whatever 1707 01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:47,920 Speaker 1: that's not, we don't need to get into it. But 1708 01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:49,559 Speaker 1: I did think it was interesting that this movie got 1709 01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:53,000 Speaker 1: such buzz online that they literally changed parts of the 1710 01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:57,200 Speaker 1: movie in the hopes of converting this movie looks so 1711 01:35:57,280 --> 01:36:01,160 Speaker 1: ridiculous to I'm going to see it right, which apparently 1712 01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:04,120 Speaker 1: did not work. I mean, this movie was financially successful, 1713 01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:06,599 Speaker 1: but I don't think the degree that they wanted because 1714 01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:10,639 Speaker 1: they were really pushing, like they published a book called 1715 01:36:10,720 --> 01:36:14,080 Speaker 1: Snakes on a Plane, The Guide to the Internet sensation, 1716 01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:18,920 Speaker 1: like they were really trying to turn this into like 1717 01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:21,840 Speaker 1: a huge movie, which didn't really happen. 1718 01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:24,040 Speaker 2: Right, because it had a budget of thirty three million 1719 01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:29,559 Speaker 2: dollars production budget, which high honestly, it grossed sixty two millions, 1720 01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:31,760 Speaker 2: so it like more or less doubled its budget. But 1721 01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:33,880 Speaker 2: that was only the production budget. I bet they spent 1722 01:36:33,960 --> 01:36:36,360 Speaker 2: so much on marketing that this movie would actually be 1723 01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:38,760 Speaker 2: considered a big flop. 1724 01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:41,519 Speaker 1: Kind of yeah, or like at least a wash, because 1725 01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:45,439 Speaker 1: it just feels I don't know. I was curious because 1726 01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:49,439 Speaker 1: this comes at an interesting point in Sam Jackson's career, 1727 01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:53,720 Speaker 1: right where I feel like Sam Jackson for basically his 1728 01:36:54,160 --> 01:36:56,720 Speaker 1: entire career has been a supporting actor, which I think 1729 01:36:56,800 --> 01:37:00,679 Speaker 1: is the unfortunate fate of many prominent peace people of color, 1730 01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:03,599 Speaker 1: where you know, it can be very challenging to get 1731 01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:07,559 Speaker 1: a you know, band or role. This I was curious. 1732 01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:09,840 Speaker 1: I was like, was this supposed to be his big thing? 1733 01:37:10,120 --> 01:37:12,920 Speaker 1: The answer is no, because he's coming off of his 1734 01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:16,080 Speaker 1: like Mace Window years, basically like he's just finished the 1735 01:37:16,120 --> 01:37:19,519 Speaker 1: Star Wars. Uh, he's just finished his Star Wars. Well. 1736 01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:23,640 Speaker 2: Impressed that you know his character's name from those movies, Jamie. 1737 01:37:23,479 --> 01:37:27,600 Speaker 1: I I remember, weirdly he was. He made one of 1738 01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:31,519 Speaker 1: the bigger impressions to me because his saber was purple 1739 01:37:32,120 --> 01:37:35,320 Speaker 1: and I liked that, and so I remember what his 1740 01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:38,519 Speaker 1: name was. Boring character though it's so boring because he 1741 01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:40,080 Speaker 1: was just in all the Senate scenes. I'm like, this 1742 01:37:40,120 --> 01:37:43,599 Speaker 1: is so boring. Anyways, So I was curious, why did 1743 01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:46,519 Speaker 1: sam Jackson do this movie the way he explains it. 1744 01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:50,000 Speaker 1: And I've seen this in print and in an interview, 1745 01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:53,559 Speaker 1: and I do believe him. He basically is like, it's 1746 01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:56,479 Speaker 1: a recession. Like he said, it was the kind of 1747 01:37:56,560 --> 01:37:58,080 Speaker 1: movie I would have gone to see when I was 1748 01:37:58,120 --> 01:38:00,479 Speaker 1: a kid. I feel sorry for all the people that 1749 01:38:00,520 --> 01:38:02,479 Speaker 1: are going through the whole trip of why would Samuel 1750 01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:05,639 Speaker 1: Jackson do something like this? And it's low brow. It's 1751 01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:08,200 Speaker 1: a movie people go to movies on Saturday to get 1752 01:38:08,200 --> 01:38:10,559 Speaker 1: away from the war in Iraq and taxes and election 1753 01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:14,759 Speaker 1: news and pedophiles online and just go and have some fun. 1754 01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:17,240 Speaker 1: And I like doing movies that are fun. Now, the 1755 01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:20,439 Speaker 1: way he phrases it we can take issue with. But 1756 01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:24,240 Speaker 1: you know, I think he's basically just saying I am 1757 01:38:24,280 --> 01:38:27,920 Speaker 1: not above doing an escapist movie because this is the 1758 01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:29,960 Speaker 1: kind of movies I enjoyed when I was a kid, 1759 01:38:30,240 --> 01:38:32,680 Speaker 1: he said. In other interviews, that I watched that. He's like, 1760 01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:34,840 Speaker 1: those kind of tend to be the kind of movies 1761 01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:37,240 Speaker 1: I want to do, is movies that I would really 1762 01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:40,519 Speaker 1: enjoy seeing when I was younger, and that can be 1763 01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:43,000 Speaker 1: Star Wars, but it can also be snakes on a plane. 1764 01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:46,920 Speaker 1: And when he phrased it like that, I was like, yeah, 1765 01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:50,400 Speaker 1: that makes sense. That's all I have to say about that. 1766 01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:55,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no. I I was curious about that too, 1767 01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:58,080 Speaker 2: and I was just like, all right, either he just 1768 01:38:58,200 --> 01:39:02,280 Speaker 2: has a po our person who's insisting that he defend 1769 01:39:02,320 --> 01:39:05,600 Speaker 2: his choice to be this movie, or he really believes that. 1770 01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:09,559 Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but either way, I was so delighted 1771 01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:11,000 Speaker 2: to see him in the movie. 1772 01:39:11,200 --> 01:39:13,439 Speaker 1: I always I also like, do appreciate I mean, this 1773 01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:16,600 Speaker 1: movie is you know, not to drop the bit of 1774 01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:20,120 Speaker 1: the episode. This movie's dogshit right, but like it's but 1775 01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:24,880 Speaker 1: it's fun and it's campy, And I always appreciate when 1776 01:39:24,920 --> 01:39:27,599 Speaker 1: an actor stands by I've like, as I think, as 1777 01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:29,920 Speaker 1: I as I'm mature, I appreciate when an actor stands 1778 01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:33,240 Speaker 1: by their can't be performance. But also who cares? I 1779 01:39:33,240 --> 01:39:34,880 Speaker 1: want to do something you pointed out to me that 1780 01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:38,760 Speaker 1: I didn't realize when we were talking before, was this 1781 01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:42,439 Speaker 1: movie is weirdly high. I mean not that rotten Tomatoes 1782 01:39:42,479 --> 01:39:45,519 Speaker 1: means nothing, right, but like, why is it so high 1783 01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:48,320 Speaker 1: on this movie? I was shocked. I was coming in expecting, 1784 01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:49,479 Speaker 1: you know, a twelve percent. 1785 01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:54,160 Speaker 2: It's the same. The critics score on Rotten Tomatoes is 1786 01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:57,719 Speaker 2: sixty nine percent, meaning of course that sixty nine percent 1787 01:39:57,720 --> 01:40:03,400 Speaker 2: of critics gave this a positive of review, which is 1788 01:40:03,479 --> 01:40:06,040 Speaker 2: so much higher than I thought. And it's a rare 1789 01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:09,880 Speaker 2: movie that has a higher critics score than audience score, 1790 01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:13,479 Speaker 2: because the audience score on Rotten Tomatoes is forty nine percent, 1791 01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:17,960 Speaker 2: meaning that only about like half the people polled or 1792 01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:22,840 Speaker 2: who said anything about it thought that it was good. 1793 01:40:23,200 --> 01:40:28,080 Speaker 2: So yeah, baffling, baffling that sixty nine percent of critics 1794 01:40:28,200 --> 01:40:30,240 Speaker 2: were like, yeah, this is this is fine. 1795 01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:33,840 Speaker 1: I it's weird. I mean, it just feels so like 1796 01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:35,360 Speaker 1: you would have to be in two thousand and six 1797 01:40:35,439 --> 01:40:38,120 Speaker 1: to understand why. I don't know, because it's like at 1798 01:40:38,120 --> 01:40:43,080 Speaker 1: the precipice of so many weird cultural changes that feel 1799 01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:46,320 Speaker 1: very kind of like hokey now in a way that 1800 01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:48,760 Speaker 1: it was like there's early Internet culture stuff going on, 1801 01:40:48,840 --> 01:40:53,479 Speaker 1: there's like still some oh something that I felt very 1802 01:40:54,240 --> 01:40:56,559 Speaker 1: Bush era. Not to say that this has improved in 1803 01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:58,920 Speaker 1: any way, shape or form, but there was a moment 1804 01:40:58,920 --> 01:41:01,799 Speaker 1: where I think it was the Bobby Kenna Valley character says, 1805 01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:06,280 Speaker 1: there's just like this broad racist thing that said in 1806 01:41:06,479 --> 01:41:11,640 Speaker 1: the Snake trailer question mark, where it's implied that some 1807 01:41:11,720 --> 01:41:13,479 Speaker 1: of the guy's snakes are from the Middle East. The 1808 01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:16,759 Speaker 1: Middle East is said as if it is a single country, right, 1809 01:41:16,840 --> 01:41:19,839 Speaker 1: he says, the Middle East. That would make that snake illegal, 1810 01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:25,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't it. Just it just felt very Bush era style 1811 01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:28,439 Speaker 1: of racism, Like the Middle East is a single place, 1812 01:41:28,600 --> 01:41:32,360 Speaker 1: and everyone and everything from this single place is illegal. 1813 01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:35,720 Speaker 1: Like that is the logic that that line bears out. 1814 01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:38,880 Speaker 1: And then the guy replies yes, and you're just like 1815 01:41:39,080 --> 01:41:44,719 Speaker 1: this is fucking miserable. But then he changes gears and says, 1816 01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:46,719 Speaker 1: I need the list of the snakes on the plane, 1817 01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:47,880 Speaker 1: and I'm like and I'm. 1818 01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:51,160 Speaker 2: Back, and he's like, give me the snake manifest. 1819 01:41:51,560 --> 01:41:55,400 Speaker 1: This literally the snake manifest And the guy's like it's 1820 01:41:55,479 --> 01:41:58,920 Speaker 1: right over there, Like it's right over there, like yeah. 1821 01:41:58,800 --> 01:42:03,800 Speaker 2: He's keeping it easily accessible in case this scene happens. 1822 01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:10,160 Speaker 1: Just absolute nonsense. Bibe. Yeah, I don't know, do you 1823 01:42:10,160 --> 01:42:12,080 Speaker 1: have anything else to say. It passes the Paxel test, 1824 01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:14,600 Speaker 1: if you can believe it. I a couple of. 1825 01:42:14,600 --> 01:42:17,719 Speaker 2: Times famously, as per usual, forgot to pay attention. 1826 01:42:17,920 --> 01:42:20,559 Speaker 1: So I was, I was paying attention. It passes between 1827 01:42:20,600 --> 01:42:24,360 Speaker 1: Claire and Tiffany, it passes between I believe, it passes 1828 01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:26,400 Speaker 1: between Claire and Grace. 1829 01:42:27,360 --> 01:42:27,839 Speaker 2: It passes. 1830 01:42:27,880 --> 01:42:30,720 Speaker 1: I mean it passes between a number of I mean, 1831 01:42:30,920 --> 01:42:35,320 Speaker 1: if we're you know, sometimes it's women talking about snakes. 1832 01:42:35,640 --> 01:42:39,760 Speaker 1: You know that's a pressing issue. Yeah, genderless icon the 1833 01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:40,840 Speaker 1: CGI snakes. 1834 01:42:41,040 --> 01:42:41,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. 1835 01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:44,840 Speaker 1: Really blown away that. I was like, there couldn't have 1836 01:42:44,880 --> 01:42:46,960 Speaker 1: been more than three snakes on side. There were four 1837 01:42:47,080 --> 01:42:50,840 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty. Where were they were they? Where the 1838 01:42:50,880 --> 01:42:53,400 Speaker 1: hell were these snakes? I only saw computer snakes. I 1839 01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:54,439 Speaker 1: saw one real snake. 1840 01:42:56,760 --> 01:42:59,439 Speaker 2: Then it makes you wonder about the ethics of that. 1841 01:43:00,280 --> 01:43:00,719 Speaker 1: I couldn't. 1842 01:43:00,760 --> 01:43:02,639 Speaker 2: I didn't do further research into it. 1843 01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:05,599 Speaker 1: But like many things with this movie, safe to say 1844 01:43:06,160 --> 01:43:07,280 Speaker 1: probably not good. 1845 01:43:08,240 --> 01:43:15,040 Speaker 2: Right, So yeah, I didn't really have a whole lot else. 1846 01:43:15,280 --> 01:43:18,160 Speaker 2: I did want to do more research about, like would 1847 01:43:18,200 --> 01:43:21,160 Speaker 2: snakes behave this way? I feel like we need like 1848 01:43:21,200 --> 01:43:26,320 Speaker 2: a like Creature Future podcast. I'm just on this movie 1849 01:43:26,360 --> 01:43:31,559 Speaker 2: to be a help. But yeah, I have to imagine 1850 01:43:31,720 --> 01:43:34,360 Speaker 2: that a lot of the way that snake behavior was 1851 01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:38,080 Speaker 2: depicted was inaccurate. A lot of how you know, like 1852 01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:42,360 Speaker 2: airplane travel was depicted. 1853 01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:46,880 Speaker 1: That I feel like we can safely say that's I 1854 01:43:46,880 --> 01:43:49,479 Speaker 1: don't think at any point in history how that's worked. 1855 01:43:51,800 --> 01:43:56,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, So a nipple scale where we rate the movie 1856 01:43:56,960 --> 01:43:59,400 Speaker 2: on a scale of zero to five nipples based on 1857 01:43:59,560 --> 01:44:05,679 Speaker 2: examine the movie through an intersectional feminist lens. I would 1858 01:44:05,840 --> 01:44:14,360 Speaker 2: give this a slithery, slimy zero nipples. Didn't really do 1859 01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:17,559 Speaker 2: anything good and it did everything wrong. 1860 01:44:17,680 --> 01:44:20,720 Speaker 1: I would say, Yeah, I was gonna say, I do 1861 01:44:20,920 --> 01:44:22,720 Speaker 1: want to just like thank our listeners one more time 1862 01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:24,439 Speaker 1: for being so patient and waiting, you know, eight and 1863 01:44:24,479 --> 01:44:26,280 Speaker 1: a half full years for this episode. 1864 01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:28,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that you've been begging for. 1865 01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:33,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, we hope this met your standards, but please do 1866 01:44:33,400 --> 01:44:36,080 Speaker 1: not spare us with your criticisms. 1867 01:44:37,200 --> 01:44:38,760 Speaker 2: We can finally handle it. 1868 01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:41,680 Speaker 1: We're finally in a place where we can accept the feedback. 1869 01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:44,719 Speaker 1: And with that, I'm going to give this zero nip. 1870 01:44:45,880 --> 01:44:50,400 Speaker 1: It is like such a wildly but I would love 1871 01:44:50,560 --> 01:44:51,559 Speaker 1: to see this movie. 1872 01:44:51,320 --> 01:44:53,240 Speaker 2: In a theater with you specifically. 1873 01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:55,000 Speaker 1: I think that would be so much fun. 1874 01:44:55,080 --> 01:44:57,439 Speaker 2: Maybe they'll re release it in twenty twenty six for 1875 01:44:57,520 --> 01:44:59,160 Speaker 2: the twentieth anniversary. 1876 01:44:59,280 --> 01:45:02,720 Speaker 1: It sounds honestly, and and if Sam Jackson still like 1877 01:45:03,080 --> 01:45:06,320 Speaker 1: stands by it, ish, let's just do it like why 1878 01:45:06,520 --> 01:45:06,880 Speaker 1: why not? 1879 01:45:07,800 --> 01:45:08,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1880 01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:11,519 Speaker 1: I just uh, I had the best time watching this movie. 1881 01:45:11,560 --> 01:45:14,760 Speaker 2: It was awful. I'm so glad you're glad to hear it, 1882 01:45:16,240 --> 01:45:23,640 Speaker 2: and listeners, thank you for your support, thank you for 1883 01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:29,000 Speaker 2: indulging us. I guess I guess we shouldn't end the podcast. 1884 01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:31,680 Speaker 2: I guess we should keep going yea, actually and do 1885 01:45:31,760 --> 01:45:32,520 Speaker 2: more episodes. 1886 01:45:32,680 --> 01:45:34,960 Speaker 1: We should do. We should go surfing and bali and 1887 01:45:35,040 --> 01:45:39,600 Speaker 1: just figure out what happens next. Yeah, yeah, happy a 1888 01:45:39,680 --> 01:45:42,400 Speaker 1: proof ofs take a happy aprof. 1889 01:45:43,439 --> 01:45:48,280 Speaker 2: Did we get you? We got your asses? Didn't we? 1890 01:45:48,280 --> 01:45:49,880 Speaker 2: We bit your ass? 1891 01:45:49,880 --> 01:45:54,920 Speaker 1: We bit your asses? 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That's so. 1906 01:46:49,400 --> 01:46:51,800 Speaker 1: I do like that trope in movies where it's like 1907 01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:54,920 Speaker 1: the last, you know, the last, like, oh, no, jump, 1908 01:46:56,479 --> 01:46:57,000 Speaker 1: I love it. 1909 01:46:57,439 --> 01:47:01,080 Speaker 2: I do think that we should get off the motherfucking 1910 01:47:01,160 --> 01:47:02,839 Speaker 2: podcast and say goodbye. 1911 01:47:02,880 --> 01:47:05,120 Speaker 1: Let's get off this motherfucking podcast just for today. 1912 01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:12,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, bye bye. The Bechdel Cast is a production of iHeartMedia, 1913 01:47:12,800 --> 01:47:16,599 Speaker 2: hosted by Caitlin Derante and Jamie Loftis, produced by Sophie Lichterman, 1914 01:47:16,920 --> 01:47:20,080 Speaker 2: edited by mo La Boord. Our theme song was composed 1915 01:47:20,120 --> 01:47:24,439 Speaker 2: by Mike Kaplan with vocals by Katherine Volskrosenski. 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