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Speaker 1: player for you, Dave, Steve a blimp. We're not even

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Speaker 1: here on a Wednesday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you

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Speaker 1: live from the NFL Combine in Indianapolis, and we are

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Speaker 1: shock full, locked and loaded with an all star rundown today.

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Speaker 1: it rolling, man. So we'll have we'll have Indianapolis Colts

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Speaker 1: the NFL's Competition Committee. We know how Bills fans feel

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Speaker 1: about overtime these days. It sounds as though there were

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Speaker 1: But if, for instance, in the Kansas City overtime game

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Speaker 1: oh fine, And that was big. It was huge, Steve.

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Speaker 1: And then when you look at the statistics like I

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Speaker 1: just saw, and again I can't recite them off the

428
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Speaker 1: top of my head about how well done it was,

429
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Speaker 1: you know, that was a big win. Well, more importantly,

430
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Speaker 1: it took a burden off guys like you to throw

431
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Speaker 1: the challenge flag because it was getting adjudicated upstairs, and

432
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Speaker 1: the officials did such a good job. I remember there

433
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Speaker 1: was a game early on and I was and I

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Speaker 1: was and I knew right away the call wasn't right,

435
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Speaker 1: and I was getting ready to throw my flag, and

436
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Speaker 1: the officials said, hey, we're checking, we're checking it. You're

437
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Speaker 1: gonna be good. Don't throw your flag and just hold

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Speaker 1: it for another couple of seconds. So you know, there's

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Speaker 1: that ten second window that you know that hey, they

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Speaker 1: could tell me, hey, just keep it and keep that

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Speaker 1: in your pocket. So they did a great officials did

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Speaker 1: a great job with it. There's a play coming. Another

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Speaker 1: part of potential rule changes is one that was near

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Speaker 1: and dear to Steve's art, the punt play, which we

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Speaker 1: know we've seen the statistics in print. The injuries are

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Speaker 1: still relatively high on that particular play because it is

447
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 1: still very much a full speed play. Kickoff says, we know,

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Speaker 1: with no wedge anymore and guys having a stand at

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Speaker 1: the line instead of running up to it, that's become

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Speaker 1: a safer play. What's been the dialogue there and how

451
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Speaker 1: much movement are you foreseeing on that. Yeah, you're exactly right. Um,

452
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: that's player's safety is a huge deal. And you know

453
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 1: kickoff return, punt return or to the stats are just

454
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Speaker 1: higher on those. So uh, really this is about and

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Speaker 1: you know, meeting with everybody. Everybody's in a players association,

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Speaker 1: you know, the competition game, and everybody wants player safety.

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Speaker 1: So this is let's work together. Let's get player input,

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Speaker 1: Let's get coaches input, Let's get officials input, Let's get

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Speaker 1: everybody doctor's input. Let's get everybody to circle up here

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Speaker 1: and say, put together our minds and our wisdom and

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Speaker 1: experience and see should we adjust, how would how do

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Speaker 1: we adjust? What would that look like? And I think

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Speaker 1: that's going to take everybody to come up with that solution.

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Speaker 1: The thing I was, I was in the room when

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Speaker 1: they did the kickoff revamp, and I think the willingness

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Speaker 1: to keep those plays in the game special team you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm an old special teams guy. They want to keep

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Speaker 1: They want to keep the they want to keep the

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Speaker 1: foot in the game. They want to keep punts as

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Speaker 1: a part of the game. They want to keep kickoffs

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Speaker 1: as a part of the game. They don't just want

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Speaker 1: to go out and spot the ball, let's go. Um.

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Speaker 1: They want to give guys like that a chance to

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Speaker 1: play and those plays to happen. How afraid or apprehensive

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Speaker 1: are they if they make the punt? The play the

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Speaker 1: punt play maybe very different? Yeah, I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: all those things are being talked about. I think one

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Speaker 1: of the things I really appreciate about the league is

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Speaker 1: that we don't want to give We don't want something

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Speaker 1: to be gimmicky, we don't want to feel we want

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Speaker 1: it to feel like we're playing football, like traditional football.

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Speaker 1: So not that you're not willing to take that chance

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Speaker 1: and do something a little bit, you know, offbeat, but

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Speaker 1: let's look at every avenue to try to make it

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Speaker 1: as least gimmickly if I can say it that way,

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Speaker 1: and as traditional as we can with maybe just a

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Speaker 1: few small adjustments. Last one I've got for you, Frank,

488
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Speaker 1: is you know there's a guy on your roster, Marlon Mack,

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Speaker 1: who you know obviously had a very serious injury, missed

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Speaker 1: a lot of time. I know he's a free agent,

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Speaker 1: so there's some decisions for you guys to make there,

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Speaker 1: but can you just give us an update on where

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Speaker 1: he is? Ad because I mean he was a productive

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Speaker 1: guy for you when he was healthy, and I know

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Speaker 1: the conversations different now because you got an All World

496
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Speaker 1: player in Jonathan Taylor and you have a pretty good

497
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Speaker 1: guy behind him in terms of a pass catching back too,

498
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Speaker 1: so in Hines. So how do you kind of weigh

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Speaker 1: that out because you knew what he was and now

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Speaker 1: he's healthy, So where does that go for from here?

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Speaker 1: For him? Very very interesting discussion because, as you said,

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Speaker 1: playing at a very high level, you know before JT,

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Speaker 1: before he got injured, and then j T stepped onto

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Speaker 1: the scene. So, um, you know, we're four Marlon Mack.

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Speaker 1: You know, I mean, we'll see how everything plays out.

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Speaker 1: But this guy, this guy, he's not done. He's not

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Speaker 1: done with He's got to have a thousand yards season again.

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Speaker 1: I believe he can do that. I believe he will

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Speaker 1: do that. Um. I believe he's that talented. And I

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Speaker 1: think and then on top of it, he just deserves it.

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Speaker 1: Like this guy, like he's he's a guy, he's like

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Speaker 1: one of these guys. You root for this guy, and

513
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 1: so you know, he was a free and he missed

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Speaker 1: the window right there. So yeah, you to see the

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Speaker 1: best form. Last one I've got for you. I know,

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Speaker 1: the whole week. You guys, you and uh and Ballard,

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Speaker 1: your general m Chris Ballard have been answering questions about

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz and and going forward in the economics of

519
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 1: it and the humanity of it, and the and the

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Speaker 1: production of it. And you got a lot of you know,

521
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Speaker 1: decision to make on that that you're still walking through.

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Speaker 1: We've heard all of that. I'm gonna spare you the

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Speaker 1: that's a good friend, isn't it such a good friend?

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Speaker 1: Some kind of something I don't want to talk about.

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. I was gonna spring my eye over overtime

526
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Speaker 1: proposal on you. In the first five minutes of the show.

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Speaker 1: We were talking about it and we kind of it's

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Speaker 1: a little convoluted, so I'm gonna I'm gonna let it go.

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Speaker 1: It's the count up, countdown sudden death. So it's awesome idea,

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Speaker 1: but as we walk through it, the ripple effects were

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Speaker 1: just a little too big for me. Yeah, so he'll

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Speaker 1: he'll share it with you all there. I know, So listen,

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Speaker 1: I know that you worked with Carson Wentz and Philly.

534
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Speaker 1: He's a tremendous guy. I've spoken with him, UM and

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Speaker 1: He's like Marlon Mack, you're a guy that you gotta

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Speaker 1: be formed. But there's some decisions every year. It's a

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00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: business you and you've got voices you got to listen to,

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00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: you know, Jim Ursay, Chris Ballard, you your offensive coordinator,

539
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 1: and Carson as well. How you know, And I know

540
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: there's always this deadline to the calendar moves on. So

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Speaker 1: you know what's your thought about how that affects you

542
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 1: going forward. I know you're starting quarterback, and the problem

543
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: is it's easy for people say you got to get

544
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 1: rid of Carson wins Getter. You gotta have somebody to

545
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 1: take snaps, no doubt. So you know what's the next

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00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: step for you guys? Well, as you said, Steve, you're

547
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: exactly right. I mean, everybody gets evaluated all the time.

548
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 1: Head coaches, quarterbacks of course, are under the most scrutiny.

549
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: So that process is still going underway. But I said

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Speaker 1: it yesterday, I said again, I believe in Carson Wentz,

551
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Speaker 1: just like I believe in Marlon Mack. I believe, you know,

552
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Speaker 1: I believe Carson's gonna have a lot of successful football

553
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: ahead of us. You know that might be with us,

554
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Speaker 1: you know, as our starting quarterback. If it's not with

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Speaker 1: us and it's with somebody else, I believe he's going

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Speaker 1: to succeed. I believe there was a lot of goodness

557
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: last year from him. We all needed to be better.

558
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: I needed to be better. Carson needed to be better

559
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: in some big games. You know. We just needed to

560
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 1: come through and do what we all believe. We had

561
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Speaker 1: a team that should have made the playoffs and we

562
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 1: and we didn't. So we got answer to that. We

563
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: got to own that, right. Everyone was coach, quarterback, players

564
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: on the team and so so. And when you missed

565
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Speaker 1: the playoffs, especially when you were expecting to be there,

566
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Speaker 1: then that's why we're even in this moment right now,

567
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: you know, having to make these tough, these tough decisions

568
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: before we let you go. Frank. We had a certain

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Speaker 1: former quarterback of the Bills show up to a playoff

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00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: game this past season, disrobed shirtless at a playoff game,

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Speaker 1: even though he was a member of another team. I

572
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: gotta say, I'm a little disappointed. We never had a

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Speaker 1: Frank Reich moment like that when you were still playing

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Speaker 1: for Carolina or somebody else coming back during a Bills play.

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Speaker 1: Why did that not happen with you, Frank, you know,

576
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: just not my style, just my stake the shoot off. No,

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00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: that's that's not my style. I gotta say when I

578
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: I wasn't disappointed until somebody else did it. I didn't

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Speaker 1: realize you never did that. Well, I can't say this though,

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00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: I mean, and I can only say this because of

581
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: the bills monumental success this year, and and you know

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00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: that I am still a huge Bills fan, and uh,

583
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Speaker 1: but I'm pretty comfortable with how we came back into

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Speaker 1: the stadium this past year. I know, right, Okay, there

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Speaker 1: it is. I'll tell you what could it resist. It's true,

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00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: It's really true, but they got but the Bill. But

587
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: the Bills got the last laugh, right because they they

588
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: had an unbelievable season. It's true though, that game that

589
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: you were the only team to beat the Bills by

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Speaker 1: double digits and really soundly thrash them. Yeah, and let

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Speaker 1: them bill hole more on the road. Every loss they

592
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: had was kind of a single digit one score leading,

593
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Speaker 1: and they won a lot of games by double digits.

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Speaker 1: That was the one game this last year where the

595
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: Bills were out manned, outmatched. It really was. It was

596
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Speaker 1: a weird game. I mean, there was a point in

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Speaker 1: that game. How there was a point in that game

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Speaker 1: where it felt like it the Bills could have got

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Speaker 1: back in. It teetered early, it was fourteen seven, and

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Speaker 1: then the turnover started happening, and then it kind of

601
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: got on top of it. And I really think the

602
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: weather played into our advantage. You know, that day. It

603
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: was a real windy, real windy day, and we were

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Speaker 1: able to run the ball, and you know, and I

605
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: think it affected the Bills pass game just a little

606
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: bit and we had a good day. And but h man,

607
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Speaker 1: do I have a ton of respect for Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: the season he had Sean McDermott just what what a

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Speaker 1: what class coach and a great team. I'll say this too.

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Speaker 1: At the end of the season, when um the Bills

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Speaker 1: were trying to get in, the conversation was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: who are we going to play in it? Nobody in

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Speaker 1: Buffalo wanted to see the playoff? That was we want

614
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Speaker 1: his memory. It is hard to get rid of. Well,

615
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: maybe maybe the Bills players wanted to plays because they've

616
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Speaker 1: been maybe, but man, the familing I'm winning part of

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Speaker 1: those guys. Thanks for the time, Franks. We always reappreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Good luck in your work done here. I know you've

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Speaker 1: got some big decisions to make in the next couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks. Good luck with all of it. Thanks guys.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's Indie Apples full take coach Frank Right,

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Speaker 1: we'll take a break be back with more here on

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Speaker 1: one Bills Live for his enter back Collie to health.

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Speaker 1: more Bill's Patriots games than anyone else. In twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: you and Iron Tennis. Yeah, so I Iron is the man.

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Speaker 1: Let's make sure we have right down. And Evan Washburn,

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Speaker 1: who was smart enough to find the chicken broth that's

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Speaker 1: right there in the playoff game. Did you get into

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Speaker 1: into the thing? You're a lot tougher, he's a she's

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Speaker 1: a chili guy. I felt yeah. I felt bad for

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Speaker 1: Evan though, because I was on the sidelines too. You

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Speaker 1: were down there too. I felt bad for his hair. Yes,

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Speaker 1: but listen, if he would have run a finger could

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Speaker 1: have hit snap snap dry off hit with I have

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Speaker 1: to just tell you for me, I'm just jealous. Well

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Speaker 1: I'm jealous hats hair. Yes, that's as I'm wearing the

640
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Speaker 1: ball cap. So this is that does all you need?

641
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Speaker 1: The price you have to pay for me. He had

642
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Speaker 1: a lot of product, and I don't know if he

643
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Speaker 1: how long it took him to get it out. Let's

644
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: let's bust into this. So you're here at the combine

645
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Speaker 1: and we're gonna get into some of the scouts and

646
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Speaker 1: stuff in a minute. Um not a good quarterback class, Yeah,

647
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Speaker 1: not not anywhere close to it. It looks like for

648
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Speaker 1: the first time, maybe a handful of years, there's not

649
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Speaker 1: going to be that many veteran quarterbacks out there moving around.

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Speaker 1: Now we've heard now Jimmy Gee probably on the move,

651
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: that's what we would figure. Carson Wentz probably on shake here.

652
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Speaker 1: And but then again, the market's not there for Carson

653
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Speaker 1: right now. I mean, he's not a hot commodity. But

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Speaker 1: what's interesting to me about it, Steve, is that when

655
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Speaker 1: your general manager and your head coach come to the combine,

656
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Speaker 1: you've watched him play all year, you gave up a

657
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Speaker 1: number one pick, you let him play, So the number

658
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: one pick went through and you get here and you go, well,

659
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Speaker 1: we're still evaluating. I think you've told us something. What

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Speaker 1: do you mean you're still evaluating? You either know you

661
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: like him or you don't. So that was a big

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Speaker 1: one for me. I think that points toward and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have Frank reichon, Yeah, points toward maybe some disagreement.

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Speaker 1: That sounds like plus is twenty eight million dollars. Yeah,

665
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Speaker 1: so you're talking about a whole bunch of different That's

666
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Speaker 1: that's we're gonna have a discussion on that, right. So

667
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Speaker 1: you're right though. How many veteran quarterbacks make their move?

668
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Speaker 1: Jamis Winston I think is still out there. You know,

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Speaker 1: he got hurt last year with New Orleans. Is there

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Speaker 1: an opportunity there? Where? Does he Where does he end

671
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Speaker 1: up settling in case someone wants a veteran quarterback? And

672
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Speaker 1: we got a couple of backup guys who might be

673
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Speaker 1: in play as well, one of them in Buffalo They

674
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Speaker 1: Mitchell Trubiscue, who wants to be a starter again. And

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Speaker 1: how about Marcus Mariota with the Las Vegas Raiders. Does

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Speaker 1: he get a second opportunity to be a starter somewhere

677
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Speaker 1: in the NFL? For a team. So you're right, we'll

678
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Speaker 1: got to see what happens with the veterans. And the

679
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Speaker 1: last thing I'll say is this quarterback crop of of

680
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Speaker 1: rookies this year not like last year. But at the

681
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Speaker 1: same time, I also don't want to just say, well,

682
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Speaker 1: there's there's just no quarterbacks. Andy Dalton second rounder, Brett

683
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Speaker 1: five second rounder, Yeah, who knows. And and maybe a

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Speaker 1: veteran team takes one in the second round or first

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Speaker 1: round that they can groom. We'll say, we'll see how

686
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Speaker 1: to Davis Mills last year didn't do it. Bed Listen.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna tell you right now. I said it

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Speaker 1: last year. I'm on record I hate revisionist history. One

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Speaker 1: of the few things I said and I stood on

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Speaker 1: the table for If Davis Mills at stayed in school

691
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Speaker 1: at Stanford last year, we would be talked about him

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Speaker 1: being the first quarterback off the board. This year, it's

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Speaker 1: for him because you remember, really had like thirteen fourteen

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Speaker 1: starts in college. If he played through this year, we'd

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Speaker 1: be talkt about him being the top guy. Well, he's

696
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Speaker 1: probably would be. He's probably pretty close to that this

697
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Speaker 1: year anyway, as he's earned himself a spot I think

698
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Speaker 1: is the guy going forward for Houston has to be

699
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Speaker 1: so CD. The receiver position is chock full of talent

700
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Speaker 1: again this year. This has come to be an assumed

701
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Speaker 1: luxury every year in the draft with the college game

702
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: churning out a bounty of talent. Good receivers, as we know,

703
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: will benefit any team, But for a team like Buffalo

704
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: or Kansas City, is it a force multiplier to help

705
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Speaker 1: those teams widen the gap between them and other clubs

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Speaker 1: because of who they have at quarterback. That's a question.

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Speaker 1: And the reason that it hits so well with me

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Speaker 1: is that's what Cincinnati did. Although we didn't know if

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Speaker 1: that was a forced multiplier. We were just wondering if

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Speaker 1: that would make them better. We had no idea that

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Speaker 1: Jamar Chase instead of Piney Sewell the offensive tackle became

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Speaker 1: the difference in them making that run down the stretch,

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Speaker 1: because you remember Jamar Chase started like gang fire, had

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Speaker 1: a little lull in the middle, and then down the

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Speaker 1: stretch and it was a monster again. And now you

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Speaker 1: add him to te Higgins to Tyler Boyd. Just saying

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Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd had been a perennial thousand yard receiver and

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Speaker 1: that's a third option, right because of because Chase and

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Speaker 1: here comes te Higgins. So I agree with you totally

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Speaker 1: on that, but I worry about where you're picking well

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Speaker 1: in order to get that receiver to be the forced multiplier,

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Speaker 1: because I don't have any of these guys that I

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Speaker 1: look at like I looked at Jamar Chase last year.

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Speaker 1: So it has to be an elite you think to

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Speaker 1: be a force multipla it didn't have to be an elite,

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Speaker 1: but if you really want to really stretch it out,

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Speaker 1: an elite with elite that has to be a must.

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Speaker 1: Otherwise I can find that guy, I can get other people.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, Gabriel Davis is like, I'm stepping

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Speaker 1: up guys and I'm a fourth rounder. Yeah, I'm doing

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Speaker 1: all right. I don't want to because we're not gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about one thing. The last thing I want to

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Speaker 1: ask you about on the flip it on the other

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Speaker 1: side of the ball. The edge rushers, they're kind of

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Speaker 1: neck deep at the top of this draft. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're they've got some guys. Yeah, So if you're if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna come back, a guy like Joe Burrow, Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: Russ Wilson, you know, you know Trevor and go down

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Speaker 1: the list. Uh, justin Herbert Mahomes. You need those guys,

740
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Speaker 1: and he started with that last year, right started with

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Speaker 1: Greg Russell. Boogie Basham. I think started to come on

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Speaker 1: a little bit better as the season went on. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, you look at this one, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: Look Hutchinson and Cavan Tippodau from Oregon, they're they're, they're

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Speaker 1: they're kind of the top of the not going to

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Speaker 1: twenty five Kenna, George Carfilitis out of out of Purdue.

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Speaker 1: Can he be down in that in that range there?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. We're gonna find out as we go along,

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Speaker 1: but there's so many guys coming out. I cannot wait

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Speaker 1: to see where it all ends up. Look this Jermaine

751
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: Johnson from Florida State. He couldn't get on the field

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00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: at Georgia because they were so transferred, transferred, and he's

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00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: the acc defensive player of the Year and then proved

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00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: it at the Senior Bowl. He wasn't a flash in Japan.

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00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: He was a legit dude. Can you get him down

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00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: in that range? Yeah? I don't know. Looking at free agency,

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00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: no one it's gonna be on us in a second.

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00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: As soon as we leave the combines Combines a week

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00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: later with the schedule all pushback, we're gonna be like

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Speaker 1: eight days from free agency. From a from the people

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Speaker 1: you talked to around the league, Charles, whether it's players, agents, whomever,

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Speaker 1: what are you hearing about Buffalo now as a free

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00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: agent destination? Oh it's it's a big time destination because

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Speaker 1: you're going with guys going to go where they're gonna win.

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Speaker 1: And Steve, I think, can attest to this better than anyone.

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Speaker 1: If you had wholesale free agency with your teams like

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Speaker 1: you had now, how many guys would have been interested?

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Speaker 1: Because number twelve's pulling the trigger? Yeah right, I can

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Speaker 1: go right, sevenys gonna beat him up. Yeah, twelve's gonna

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Speaker 1: be our offense. And guess what, I've got a chance

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00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: to go get a ring. It's a big deal and

772
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 1: that means more to these guys and anything. I don't

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00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: care who you are, it's a big time dessay. You've

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00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: got fifteen guys right now who are unrestricted free agents.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't be surprised at all that a good number of

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00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: them are gonna want to stay there. Look, Matt Milano

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00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: last year, right, I mean, think about what he did

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00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: contract wise because he wanted to be in Buffalo and

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00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: then he played at a Pro Bowl level even though

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Speaker 1: he didn't get voted. It's one thing you can get on,

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00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: get on the roster. It's another thing to make that squad. Yes,

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00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: you get to a point where now the Bills I

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00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: got sixteen seventeen free agents. It's gonna be a question,

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Speaker 1: but there they got to make some decisions. There's room

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00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: for some people there. You can step in and contribute,

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Speaker 1: so absolutely. And by the way, Josh Allen, yeah I'm

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Speaker 1: in arrested. Yeah, right, I figured as much. Last one

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Speaker 1: I've got for you is what is the consensus you're

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Speaker 1: hearing about Bill's new offensive coordinator, Ken Dorsey, known as

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00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: a cerebral player in college and the pros super successful

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00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: player in college. By the way, thirty eight and two

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00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: is not too bad. That's not bad. But what might

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00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: be his biggest challenge as a first time play call

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Speaker 1: First time play caller's biggest challenge is making sure he's

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Speaker 1: in the same same spot with the head coach and

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Speaker 1: what what the head coach is looking for. Because my

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00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: read on Sean McDermott he's a defensive guy, and he's

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00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 1: not willing to like back off Josh Allen. He is

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Speaker 1: actually a defensive guy who wants him to press it.

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Speaker 1: But he's sure as heck would like to see the

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Speaker 1: football run more. I guarantee it. And be that just

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00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 1: just a sense that I have, not that he wants

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Speaker 1: it to be balanced. But can we run it sometimes?

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00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: Can we help our defense at different times? Can we

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00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,280
Speaker 1: run four minute drives when it's not four minutes required?

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Speaker 1: Can we do soow sorts of things. He's gonna want

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Speaker 1: more of that. So that's where he needs to just

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00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: be on that same page with him. And the last

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00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 1: thing for him is he already has that great relationship

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Speaker 1: with Josh Allen. I had a coach in the league

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Speaker 1: call me when he got elevated and say, I've been

812
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: telling you for three years, people don't talk about this

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Speaker 1: guy enough. Now he's getting his chance. There you go. Yeah, Charles,

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Speaker 1: thanks for the time. We know you've got other obligations today,

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Speaker 1: we appreciate you carving out a little niche for us.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having him. Just got my obligations don't involve

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00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: me going to quarter or anything. Always great to see

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Speaker 1: you guys. You guys are the best. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: All right. That's NFL on CBS is Charles Davis. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back in a moment with more here on One

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Speaker 1: Bills Live at the Combine in indian Athletics. All right,

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Speaker 1: welcome back One Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker here

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Speaker 1: with you, live at the NFL Combine in Indianapolis. Are

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Speaker 1: you okay over there, Steve, I'm okay, okay, good. I

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Speaker 1: was just checking a good conversation there with both Frank

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Speaker 1: Reich and Charles Davis. As overtime is going to be

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Speaker 1: a discussion that's going to be out and about in

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Speaker 1: NFL circles until the owners are presented with something and

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Speaker 1: have to vote on it formally. And everybody's saying, everybody's saying,

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Speaker 1: postseason is probably where you're only you're only unsee changes

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Speaker 1: for postseason overtime. As Frank said, things moving baby steps.

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Speaker 1: Look at think about this the problem with overtime the

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Speaker 1: way it is now, where you've got both teams have

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Speaker 1: to possess it. Less one team scores a touchdown than

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Speaker 1: they win. You have to stop him from scoring a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: They can score field goal, then you get a chance

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Speaker 1: to match it. The difference between the problem with that

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Speaker 1: is this, if you give every team a chance to

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Speaker 1: match and at the end of the overtime period they're

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00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: still tied, well, what have you accomplished? You need to

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Speaker 1: you want the here's the problem. You want the game

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00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: to end, but nobody wants to see the game end.

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00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: You get a game like the Bills Chiefs game. You got.

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Speaker 1: You got Pat Mahomes and Josh Allen lighten it up

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Speaker 1: and Pete. Guys are making outstanding plays, great plays, incredible

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Speaker 1: you know conversions, you know third and eight, fourth and tens,

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Speaker 1: they're they're doing all this crazy stuff. They get to

848
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: the end of regulation. Nobody wants that game to be over.

849
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: So no matter what rules you come up with, people

850
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 1: are disappointed that it's over. But fair is fair. If

851
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 1: you're gonna score, and if you can't keep them from

852
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 1: scoring a touchdown, you don't deserve to win the game

853
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: either team. And the simple fact of the matter is

854
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: in a game like that, you get to the point

855
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 1: where neither team can stop the other one because they're

856
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: playing at such a high level offensively. So you're in

857
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: that's the conundrum. You're in but when you get to

858
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: the end of overtime right now, and both teams have

859
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: had a possession, both teams score a touchdown, or both

860
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: teams score field goal, now you're right back to where

861
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: you were with sudden death. So it just maybe we

862
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: flipped the coin at the end instead of the beginning.

863
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: Right there you go, they're still tied after ten minutes

864
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: of overtime. Now we flipped the who wins the game

865
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: or have a kicking contest? Yeah, field goal, here we go.

866
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: I'm kind of with you on that. I'll say this though, too. Um,

867
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,720
Speaker 1: I think there's a little bit of momentum because nobody

868
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: cares about the regular season. They care about the play

869
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 1: You gotta have a winner in the playoffs, but in

870
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: the regular season, for player safety, just do away with overtime.

871
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: That you end it the tie period and you have

872
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: a bunch of them and it throws a big maybe

873
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 1: you go way down the h not really, because you

874
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: got it. You got tiebreaker and you can take into

875
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: consideration when you get a team down pour it on

876
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: for your point differential, that kind of stuff. So I

877
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: think there's a little bit of momentum for that, and

878
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 1: then you just go back to the old ways first

879
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: team score wins. Alright, well maybe I don't know. Well,

880
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: maybe Bob and Amherst has a better idea. Let's go

881
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: to the phones where Bob is waiting and wants to

882
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,919
Speaker 1: talk about the overtime. What do you got for us, Bob,

883
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 1: Steve's genius idea. I think that's a great idea. Pound up,

884
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: count down and just a solution to the team that

885
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: has to pay that goes for and out quickly? Is you?

886
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: Now you count down for that team on offense, and

887
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: when it gets to zero, you start counting up again,

888
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: and that gives them a little bit more time to score.

889
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: And then that other team has the chance at the

890
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,919
Speaker 1: end too. You know, they'll have less time because they've

891
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: already had the ball for a while. All Right, Steve's

892
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: garnering support. I'm telling you, count up, countdown. Here we go. Um,

893
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: thank you for that. I should we start getting campaign buttons?

894
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: Should we start printing those up not yet T shirts? First?

895
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: Count up countdown t shirts first? Then right then campaign shirts.

896
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: When we gotta get that. We gotta get the word

897
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:23,919
Speaker 1: out of there out for that. So all right, yeah,

898
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: we'll get on that. I mean it took people ten

899
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: seconds to print up. It might be chili shirts. You

900
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: remember that that didn't take very long with I'm sure

901
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: we can get some count up countdown here. Those you

902
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: think I've signed signed a lot of might be chili stuff. Yeah,

903
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure yea that it's a great idea, and I

904
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 1: hadn't I hadn't thought about Once they get to zero,

905
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: it starts counting up um and up again. Yeah, so

906
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 1: that you know, now the other team has a chance

907
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: to match because it took you longer. Um. But I

908
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: think if you go down, if the if the first

909
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: team that gets it scores a touchdown and a two

910
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: point or whatever, we can do every whatever you want

911
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: with the extra points. Either you got to go for

912
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: two points or whatever. But you're you're saying that you

913
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: know you're gonna match it. The other team gets that

914
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: long to come down and match it, exactly, and if

915
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 1: it takes them longer, and if it takes them longer

916
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: than that, too bad, too Yeah, too bad, you lose.

917
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,240
Speaker 1: You got to do it and it's just be efficient, yeah, exactly.

918
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: You got to do it as fast as the other

919
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: team did. There there is no debating the fact that

920
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 1: that is pressure packed like you want, I know, you

921
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 1: want to create tension and pressure and drama in overtime.

922
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: And yes, there's unquestionably drama in that kind of a format.

923
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: I mean, you get the ball and the other team

924
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: scored in a minute in ten seconds. Now you got

925
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: one ten to do it. There's pressure there. Yeah, So

926
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: and you can't argue that it's unfair because they had

927
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: that much time. Now you get the same amount of time.

928
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: Can you do it just as much in that a

929
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: loted amount of times? Your defense back onto the forefront too,

930
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 1: You fence has got to do something, you know, and

931
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: get them, you know, stop them, at least stall them,

932
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: you know, to give your team more time. Now, what

933
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: about this, if they do we already talk about this.

934
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: If they don't score, then the team that gets the

935
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: ball second does score, but in longer time, you know,

936
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 1: because it goes back to zero. Well no, I would

937
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: see that. That's what I was asking you about. The

938
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: first team goes four and out, turn over on downs

939
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: and they had the ball for a minute and twenty

940
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: seven seconds. Aren't you handing the other team one twenty seven? Yes?

941
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: And then what all they need is all they need

942
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: a field goal? Well, right, because the other team didn't score.

943
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 1: And you would like to think in one twenty seven,

944
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 1: most NFL if they can score a field goal in

945
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: one twenty seven and there's seven seconds left, whatever, you know,

946
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: or do they get one twenty seven or they if

947
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: you scored twenty five seconds, do they only get twenty

948
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: five seconds to answer the field goal. That's where you

949
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 1: see we're sitting to get into the ripple effects of

950
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: unintended consequence eactly. So that's the thing. All right, we'll

951
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: we'll have to work on it. I like it because

952
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: it's got merritt. Then you've got infinite work. You've got

953
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: infinite possibilities for multiple possessions that will mean something. And

954
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: you know there's always that one possession. It's a one

955
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 1: play possession, boom touchdown. And I think that that adds

956
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: something I would like to be formally added to the

957
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live Competition Committee. So I would hope I

958
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: would gain some respectable consideration for that. You think about it,

959
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: and you let me know, I'll think about it. Well,

960
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna spend some time thinking about that. Right. We'll

961
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: take a break here, but when we come back, second

962
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: hour of the show will be including Washington Commander's head

963
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 1: coach Ron Rivera, another member of the NFL Competition Committee.

964
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: Don't worry, we won't blitz him with solely overtime questions.

965
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: He'll be some other stuff to discuss with him, including

966
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: Washington's very uncertain quarterback situation. You'll get into that with

967
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,959
Speaker 1: Coach Rivera in the second hour on one Bills Live

968
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: Live from the NFL Combine in Indianapolis, presented by Collid

969
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: to Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio at a Steve Tasker

970
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 1: who has been all over the fields. Kind of unique.

971
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: He was kind of a dual roll thunder for you, Steve,

972
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 1: Steve a blimp. We're not even in the straged bear

973
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: of normalcy. All right, kicking button taking names here at

974
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: the NFL Combine, live in Indianapolis, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

975
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: with you our number two where we will be joined

976
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 1: in due course by Washington Commander's head coach Ron Rivera,

977
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: also a member of the NFL's Competition Committee, a new member,

978
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: just like Frank Wright, who we had in the first

979
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: hour the show. Frank was great. Good to talk to

980
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: him again. Catch up with him, um and you know

981
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: they're there are news and notes that are coming out

982
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: of the combine with all the pretty much the balance

983
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 1: of the GMS and head coaches talking here and addressing

984
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 1: the media, there's been a lot of Lynch, a lot

985
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: of Lynch, a lot of news. I just read John

986
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: Lynch on John Lynch talking about now. So, Yeah, among

987
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: the things we found out, suddenly Jimmy Garoppolo needs shoulder

988
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: surgery for a blown capsule and his throwing shoulder. They

989
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: didn't think it was that bad initially and then discovered,

990
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: oh geez, and the word as they're going to move

991
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 1: on from him, they're starting to get that's starting to

992
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: be the rhetoric coming out of the organization. Well, that

993
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: trade value has been compromised, right, and the guy's gotta

994
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: get shoulder surgery on his throwing should although the surgery,

995
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 1: I mean, no trade's gonna happen without somebody getting their

996
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: hands on him and making sure he's okay and getting

997
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: it's not it shouldn't be career threatening surgery is the word.

998
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 1: So but there's that, and every every GM. It's interesting

999
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: because we talk about these stories all the time time

1000
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: at some level. Yeah, and every time you see the

1001
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: GM or the head coach come on and talk at

1002
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: the combine because they all do. It's like, yeah, there

1003
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: they are. That's the stuff they got to deal with,

1004
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: and you kind of you kind of superimpose it with

1005
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: you where you're at in our organization here with the Bills.

1006
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 1: We heard Bruce Arians, the Tampa head coach, talking yesterday

1007
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: with various people and saying, hey, you know what about

1008
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and the Russell Wilson movement. You don't have

1009
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: Tom Brady anymore. And Aliens gave a very interesting answer,

1010
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: almost as if to lend credence to the fact that

1011
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: they've kind of kicked the tires and made some phone

1012
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: calls around the league to see who might be available

1013
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: and when right, and the characterization or the way he

1014
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 1: explained it pretty much sounds like Russell's staying put. And

1015
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: actually Pete Carroll addressing the media here today basically said

1016
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 1: he's not going anywhere. How do you put a price

1017
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: tag on Green Bay sitting there with Aaron Rodgers and

1018
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 1: he is the two time defending MVP of the National

1019
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: Football leagu and you want to trade for him? And

1020
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: then how high do you the price do you think

1021
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna pay? And for a guy like the thing

1022
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: about yeah and think about well, yes, but I'll say

1023
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: this though too, think about it, Brownie. With with players

1024
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: safety and the way they treat quarterbacks, guys are playing

1025
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,959
Speaker 1: longer now. Yes, they all are not getting the career

1026
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: threatening injuries as often exactly, and and also forget to

1027
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: where the it's the wear and tear. It's where you know,

1028
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: they're just like like you know, Andrew Lux, He's like,

1029
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 1: I don't want to rehab an injury again. I don't

1030
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: I don't want to do that again. I'm done. Um,

1031
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: you don't get the the little bit death by a

1032
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: thousand ankle sprains, you know where He's just it's now

1033
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 1: your ankle, now, at your elbow, Now is your finger,

1034
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: now at your wrists, now at your shoulder, now at

1035
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: your other knee, all that. You know, it's just one

1036
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: thing after another with some of these guys, and it

1037
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: wears them down to till, you know, five years later

1038
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: in their career. They can't run, they don't want to run,

1039
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 1: they can't you know, the throwing hurts, you know all

1040
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: the stuff. So these quarterbacks are playing longer. So a

1041
00:51:55,840 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: guy like Aaron Rodgers, he's still astronomically expensive to trade

1042
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: for Russell Wilson, and think about the Russell's got a

1043
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:07,240
Speaker 1: long and you're talking about it. Yeah, but Russell Wilson,

1044
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: he's in the thirties, he's got it, he had a

1045
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: he signed a long term deal. He's in the thirty

1046
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: three thirty five million ring. That's cheap for a quarterback

1047
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: who's a franchise player. And it sounds crazy to say,

1048
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: but it is. If he comes in. If Russ Wilson

1049
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: went to Tampa Bay, they're right back in the conversation

1050
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: for one seed. Definitely, especially in the NFC, Are you

1051
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: kidding me? Exactly, they're right back in the conversation for

1052
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: the one seed. And so to think about that and

1053
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: how expensive that would be for a guy like Russ Wilson, Yeah,

1054
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 1: nobody wants to pay that price. We heard Giants general

1055
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: manager Joe Shane yesterday when asked, would you consider trading

1056
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: say Kwon Barkley, who's entering the final year of his

1057
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 1: rookie contract seven million in change, and he said everything's

1058
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: on the table, which then set off alarm bells everywhere

1059
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: else in the NFL, all for fans that want a

1060
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,439
Speaker 1: really good running back, including Buffalo, where there are Bills

1061
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 1: fans going, oh my gosh, get him, Oh my gosh,

1062
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: can him? Could you imagine him in this offense? Blah

1063
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. What do you say to that?

1064
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 1: How much do you entertain that prospect? And what do

1065
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: you want to what would you be willing to part

1066
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 1: with to put him on the rock? Now that you're

1067
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: talking about a one year deal, Well, yes, unless you

1068
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 1: choose to extend him. So if if it's a one

1069
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 1: year which can be dangerous with running backs, and it's

1070
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: a one year deal and then looking at signing him

1071
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: to a long term deal maybe as a result. No,

1072
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: let's say it's a rent one year deal. He's going

1073
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: in the last year of his rookie contract, he doesn't

1074
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: want it, or you franchise him or transition him, whatever

1075
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 1: you wanted to call it. Um, yeah, you're not going

1076
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 1: higher than what a third or conditional third. I mean,

1077
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: I know he was a second in the draft, and

1078
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: you know his rookie year was fantastic, but think about it.

1079
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: I mean, getting a guy who who is absolutely supremely

1080
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: gift is as gifted as any running back in the

1081
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: National Football League, and he's an excellent receiver out of

1082
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: the backfield. So I don't debate that for a second.

1083
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 1: He's the total package as a running back in the

1084
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 1: National Football League in the current day and age. He

1085
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 1: can outrun people, he's got speed, quotient, he's powerful. I mean,

1086
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,240
Speaker 1: he's all of that. He's like that. When they drafted

1087
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,959
Speaker 1: him third overall, they were using the Hall of Fame

1088
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: moniker on him. That's the kind of gifts he has physically.

1089
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: The other thing is he just turned twenty five, and

1090
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: so for me, my argument would be, Okay, if we

1091
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: decide this is a guy that can help put us

1092
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 1: over the top, maybe I give a conditional third that

1093
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: can improve to a second round pick with certain numbers

1094
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: that he may or may not hit. Thousand yards, twelve hundred,

1095
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 1: whatever you want it to be, ten touchdowns, whatever you

1096
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: want it to be. I'm only doing that if I'm

1097
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: convinced that I can sign him to a two or

1098
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: three year ex engine on top of his final year,

1099
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: or tear up this final year of the deal at

1100
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 1: seven point two reduce the cap figure this year, knowing

1101
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: the CAP's gonna go up precipitously next year, potentially up

1102
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: to two hundred and thirty million with the new media deals.

1103
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,959
Speaker 1: So I if I'm doing this trade, I'm not doing

1104
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: it for a one off because he's only twenty five.

1105
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: For one off, you're gonna get him cheaper seven million,

1106
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: No fuss, no must done. I don't know if I

1107
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: want to do that. What would you do it for

1108
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: fourth or fifth? Well, nobody's giants aren't taking him for

1109
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: a fourth? Would you do that though? As the bills? Well, yeah,

1110
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,439
Speaker 1: for one off, I would four fourth of sure? Would

1111
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: you do it for fourth? And then a conditional fifth?

1112
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:46,879
Speaker 1: And maybe two fours? I mean we're splitting hairs here. Yeah,

1113
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what you're talking about. I don't I

1114
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: guess what I'm saying is, I'm kind of in the

1115
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: Brandon being camp. There aren't many times he would take

1116
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: a high price player as a one off. He takes

1117
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: one off on people like Emmanuel Sanders. You know what

1118
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: I mean. I get it. A guy that's near the

1119
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 1: end of his career still has some juice left in

1120
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: the tank. Well, that can help you. And and then

1121
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: after that you wash your hand stuff and you're you're

1122
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: no better you know where? Well, it is different, which

1123
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: is why I'm saying different don't make it a one

1124
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: off with a twenty five year old. If you're gonna

1125
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 1: make that investment in a premier player, don't make it

1126
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: a one off for a twenty five year old running back.

1127
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: It's still different, Manuel Sanders. You didn't have to give

1128
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 1: up any draft picks. You just signed the guy and

1129
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 1: you had him. That's true. The draft picks still yours,

1130
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: so you don't. That's not on the equation with with Bartin.

1131
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 1: You got to give up something to even get him

1132
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 1: on your team, and there's no negotiating. He got that.

1133
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 1: Here's the price. What do you equate that seven million

1134
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,280
Speaker 1: dollars to? What kind of draft pick? Do you equate

1135
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 1: seven million dollars? Cappy? Yeah, I mean, I guess what

1136
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: I'm doing is for one year, right, But I'm also

1137
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 1: I'm also trying to acquire a player at the most

1138
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: destructive position in the games with zero longevity, So you

1139
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 1: have you have to take that into account. Giants, what

1140
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: I'm taking on the risk I'm taking on for a

1141
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 1: guy that's already had a major knee injury and missed

1142
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: a year. How much are you willing to pay a

1143
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: top flight running back in the National Football League On

1144
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: a five year deal? How much per year? Eight? I

1145
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: mean Jady got eight and that was five years ago.

1146
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: Forty million dollars about. Yeah. I don't want to go

1147
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: five years though on any running back. Yeah, okay, you

1148
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So take it. They get their

1149
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: rookie deal four years. What would you do if it

1150
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 1: was a three year deal? See that? And then now

1151
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: you're speaking my language, because that's what I wanted to do.

1152
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 1: Three year deal? What's the number? Because you'd have to

1153
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: be a little bit more or a little more guaranteed

1154
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: for him to get it. But what would you what

1155
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: would you be willing to do three years? Twenty four

1156
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: eight million a year? Yeah, for him? And then guarantee

1157
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: what sixteen of it? Twenty of it over the course

1158
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: of the contract somewhere between sixteen and twenty sixteen, and

1159
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: say eighteen okay, guarantee eighteen million of it and then

1160
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: I'll put in send in Because to me, I'm not

1161
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: worried about the incentives. He's not hitting those incentives with

1162
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: Josh Allen a quarterback. So make him happy. Give him

1163
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: some incentives that he ain't never gonna reach, you know

1164
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, what if he wants a two

1165
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 1: million dollars all Pro fine, first team Bowl, first team,

1166
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: don't give me the Pro Bowl crap, that's crap. That's

1167
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: a deal. That's a popularity content out of here with

1168
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,439
Speaker 1: no question. So I say, so, That's why I'm saying,

1169
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: this is the only way I would do it is

1170
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: I give up you know, a third rounder that could

1171
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 1: turn into a two based on certain things that he

1172
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: hits in benchmarks. But I tear up the last year

1173
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: of his deal and I signed him to a new

1174
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: three year contract. So now I get him aged twenty five,

1175
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 1: twenty six, twenty seven season and he's up and if, if,

1176
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: if the Barkley camp wants an option for a fourth year,

1177
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 1: I'll listen to that. But that's what I'm doing because

1178
00:58:56,680 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: I totally believes running back in his stuff aisle of play,

1179
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: he's falling off a cliff at twenty eight. It's gonna

1180
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: happen so after So you're saying, if you can get

1181
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: him for eight million dollars on the cap a year

1182
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: every year, you'll take him, and you'll give up the third. Yeah,

1183
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: and it might be unrealistic. He might be looking for

1184
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 1: more than that, and he might not want to well

1185
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: do you. What do you want to do? You want

1186
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: to play with Josh Allen or not? What do you

1187
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: want to do? Do you want to get out of

1188
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: New York and play in the championship games? You want to?

1189
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: You want to see a playoff game before you're done playing? Right,

1190
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 1: you ain't got many years left, buddy. I know you

1191
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: feel young at twenty five, but now watch what happens

1192
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 1: and so that that's the way I'm doing it. All right,

1193
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: how are you doing it? You're still doing your one off? No,

1194
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: I'll just say this that it's not gonna happen. Well,

1195
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: I I think Brandon Bean as a rule, isn't trading

1196
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: anything higher than a third round pick unless he knows

1197
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: he's getting a commodity back. Then he's gonna have on

1198
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: his roster for more than one year. Stefan Diggs is

1199
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: a perfect example. He trades a one and a four

1200
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 1: for a twenty six year old receiver, then you know

1201
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna be on the roster for the next four

1202
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 1: or five six years at at optimum level sake. So

1203
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 1: I try to apply that to this, and I say, okay,

1204
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: how would Brandon being do this? He would acquire him

1205
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 1: at the right price in terms of whatever value. Think,

1206
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 1: but he's not doing that to have him have a

1207
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: breakout potentially a breakout year in this offense on the

1208
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 1: last year of his rookie contracts so he can go

1209
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 1: back into free agency, get a boatload of money and

1210
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 1: leave Buffalo. He's doing it, and he's saying, this guy's

1211
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 1: a supreme talent. I'm not let him come here for

1212
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 1: one year. I believe he can be more than that

1213
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: at age twenty five. Let's sign him for another twenty

1214
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 1: age twenty six, age twenty seven, and now off we go. Yeah,

1215
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: I get it, But what are you worried about? What

1216
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:41,959
Speaker 1: are your reservation? You're not going to get se Quon

1217
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: Barkley to agree to a deal. It's below market value,

1218
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 1: which eight million bucks a year is? What has he done?

1219
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 1: That's exactly right? Um, you can make that argument, he

1220
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: may say, Listen, I know somebody will jump up and

1221
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 1: get me um next year in free agency. Okay, buddy,

1222
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 1: keep betting on yourself. I get it. Um, if you're

1223
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 1: se Quon bar Yeah, I don't know. I don't think

1224
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 1: you can get that deal. I don't think you can

1225
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 1: get a deal done an extension with him for market

1226
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 1: that lesson market value unless you're gonna jump up and

1227
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: you're not gonna give him Christian McCaffrey number numb money

1228
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 1: sixteen million dollars a year. You're not getting that. You're

1229
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: not doing that. You're not doing that to any running

1230
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 1: back years because how well has it worked out for

1231
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 1: the Panthers and the pant Yeah and the Giants picking

1232
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 1: a guy number three overall, it's just you just don't

1233
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: do it. So depending on what the price is and

1234
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: how if it's a one off year, I think I don't.

1235
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 1: I don't know that I'd go as high even as

1236
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,919
Speaker 1: a third rounder. I might give him a fourth rounder

1237
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 1: with a conditional third rounder if he does this, this, this,

1238
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 1: and this, you know, but yeah, that's as high as

1239
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 1: I go. If I'm just gonna have him for one year,

1240
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: and say que would jump at that, and he'd can

1241
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: obviously be highly motivated to play extremely well for you,

1242
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna get You're gonna get a home run hitter

1243
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: for a year, for a season, and for the let's face,

1244
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 1: if you do it now, you're getting him for the

1245
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 1: full offseason. Two. He's gonna get acclimated, he's gonna get

1246
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 1: a teammates. He's gonna get to know the guy who's

1247
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 1: gonna be at all the OTA, he's gonna be working out,

1248
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna be all of that. So you're getting an

1249
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: elite running back. I mean, he's making eight million on

1250
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 1: average on the rookie deal, right, so I probably it's

1251
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 1: probably unrealistic to say I'd pay him, and I'd probably

1252
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 1: have to pay him ten I ain't doing it. Yeah,

1253
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 1: I'm doing it. I'm not doing that for any not

1254
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: even on a three year deal. You're not going absolutely

1255
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 1: twenty seven season. No, why not? The position is an afterthought.

1256
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 1: Too destructive, it's a destructive We've got two third rounders

1257
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 1: here that are that are good at not I don't

1258
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 1: want to say good enough, that are more than good enough.

1259
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 1: They you know, certainly this is a team that doesn't

1260
01:02:58,000 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 1: run the football a lot all the time. But when

1261
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 1: they did this last year, when they started, you know,

1262
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 1: grinding and out, you know, this was this was that

1263
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 1: most one of the most explosive offenses in the league.

1264
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 1: At the end of the year, they were humming and

1265
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 1: Singletary was a part of that. I don't need to

1266
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 1: say how much better saw Barkley gonna be And what

1267
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: are you gonna do give it to him more and

1268
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 1: take the ball out of Josh Allen's hands. I'm not

1269
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 1: gonna give it to him more, right, So, so you're

1270
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: saying it's hard to justify paying a running back ten

1271
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 1: million dollars a year when he's probably only going to

1272
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 1: carry at seventeen times a game, It's exactly right. What

1273
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 1: if he's catching it another Well, he's seven eight times

1274
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 1: a game. Maybe, But I now, I don't get twenty

1275
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:43,919
Speaker 1: five touches. I don't think that Devin Singletary and Zach

1276
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 1: Moss's inability to catch is the reason the Bills didn't

1277
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 1: throw it to the backs. I think there are other

1278
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 1: factors involved, like the way their offensive line was working,

1279
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 1: in their in their abilities. So they're and their receiving

1280
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 1: course pretty damn good. So so you're gonna give it

1281
01:03:56,800 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 1: to say, Kuon Barkley, you know, fifty times times in

1282
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 1: the season, and take what seems fifty times, So you

1283
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 1: take fifteen of those targets away from Steph Diggs. I

1284
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,919
Speaker 1: mean that, Yeah, you're not total on the year. Yeah,

1285
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 1: I mean why do that? Well, they were, they were

1286
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 1: pacing him through the season, you know, and I get it,

1287
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 1: but I just if you're gonna do this, I'd rather

1288
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 1: do it with a like a Chase Claypool or somebody

1289
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 1: like that. You know, I'd rather do it with a

1290
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 1: receiver get a one off year, you know what I mean.

1291
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 1: If it was if it was type of us, if

1292
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 1: it was a se Quan type Barkley type of player

1293
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 1: at wide receiver that they're doing this, I'd be much

1294
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 1: more willing to do how you're paying even more money

1295
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 1: because the receiver position costs more than running back whatever.

1296
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 1: Whatever his contract is, you're gonna get him for a

1297
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 1: one year deal and he's gonna be free agent. That's

1298
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 1: what I would do. I would get That's a position

1299
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 1: where I'd say, yeah, I'd give it a three for

1300
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 1: that for a one year, one off a wide receiver

1301
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 1: like that. Absolute. I don't know why you would do that, though,

1302
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 1: because you already have a true number one. You have

1303
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 1: other talent that's ready to be a number two. Gabriel Davis.

1304
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 1: Why are you gonna pay big money for a receiver

1305
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 1: when you got a boatload of him in the draft,

1306
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 1: and you've got a middle market that's pretty strong and

1307
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 1: free agency, you don't have to pay a boatload of

1308
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: money for a one off a wide receiver based on

1309
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 1: what you have and based on what's out there, because

1310
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 1: you're of a wide receiver. The physical abilities we're talking

1311
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 1: about with Saquon Barkley running backs, we're talking abou like

1312
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 1: a DK Metcalf exactly. Yeah, it's that's how good. Saquan's

1313
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 1: a freak. Yeah, that's what you're talking about. You're talking

1314
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 1: about a you know, a a Megatron type of running back,

1315
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 1: right like a Derreck Henry type of running back into

1316
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 1: a Calvin Johnson type of wide receiver or an eight

1317
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 1: or a Julio Jones type of wide receiver in his prime,

1318
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 1: coming into his prime. You know what I'm saying. One

1319
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 1: of those guys Julio Jones, Calvin Johnson kind of guy. Absolutely,

1320
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 1: you know you do that ter Owens kind of abilities.

1321
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 1: One of those guys that can you know, just is

1322
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 1: better than everybody for a one off year. Yeah, that's

1323
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 1: where you go for a third round deal because then

1324
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 1: it's just like it's just like Emmanuel Sanders. I don't

1325
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 1: think the Seahawks are giving you a DK Metcalf. No, no, no,

1326
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. All I'm saying, is I would

1327
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 1: do it for a different position than sae Quon Barkley

1328
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 1: playing running back. That's my point. No, none of those

1329
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 1: guys specifically. I'm saying I don't like this deal because

1330
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 1: it's a running back. Yeah, I would love it if

1331
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 1: it was a wide receiver, okay, because you always got

1332
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 1: room for another one of those guys. You're gonna put

1333
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 1: him over there and you know, and let him play.

1334
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 1: You can plug him. In fact, you can go three

1335
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 1: and four wide receivers in the NFL. You're not gonna

1336
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 1: go four running backs. What do you think it would

1337
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 1: take to get Metcalf out of Seattle? Is in the

1338
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 1: final year of his rookie deal? Three point nine eight

1339
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 1: six million, right that See, that's what we're talking about.

1340
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 1: Go play with, Go play with Josh Allen. Maximize your

1341
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 1: value on the free he'd be all for it. What

1342
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 1: are you giving up at one? Yeah? See that's the difference, right,

1343
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 1: got to give up, that's the difference. It's well, he's

1344
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 1: healthy too. It's a one and change probably it's a

1345
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 1: change play one on a player you'd have to give up.

1346
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 1: You'd have to give him up. And Isaiah Hodgens and

1347
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 1: somebody like that, you know, or I don't even think

1348
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 1: they want to, or you know, or or Gabriel data.

1349
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 1: You may have to send him somebody like that, and

1350
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 1: then you're like, whoa hold on? That's different. Yeah, and

1351
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 1: it's different, it's very different. So but but that's my point, right, see,

1352
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 1: because because he came metcast not hurt. If he was

1353
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 1: coming off an injury and he'd had a little nicks

1354
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 1: and you know, he hadn't been able to play his

1355
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 1: first four years as fully as as sa Quan has,

1356
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 1: like say Quan has been injured and stuff, so he

1357
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 1: didn't have he had these question marks. Then everything changes.

1358
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 1: But for sae Quon Barkley, who is an elite running back, power, speed, catching, receiving,

1359
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 1: pass protecting the whole kitten caboodle, eight million bucks for

1360
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 1: this for a one year thing is pretty much a bargain.

1361
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:54,959
Speaker 1: The money is a bargain, but it's also the money

1362
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 1: in the draft pick, the draft capital, and it's only

1363
01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 1: one year. That's the problem. It's an interesting discussion because

1364
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 1: you know, we talk all the time. You talk about

1365
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 1: it all the time. Do you elite physical trait athletes

1366
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 1: or want to get as many of them as you can.

1367
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 1: Does that guy put you over the top. You want

1368
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 1: to get as many of those guys as you can

1369
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 1: because other teams can't physically beat them and it's a

1370
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 1: physical game. And well it's either that or it's a

1371
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 1: speed game. As we've talked about already with a couple

1372
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 1: of people. Yeah, same. You know, Tyreek Hill is fast

1373
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 1: in the fast lead, he's fastened the fast lead, and

1374
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 1: there's no answer for him. Yeah, in open space, there's

1375
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 1: simply no answer for him. Yeah, that's why I've kind

1376
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 1: of been a proponent of it, you know, adding speed

1377
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 1: to your roster wherever you can within reason. It's not

1378
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 1: the end all be all, but it's here. Seems to

1379
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 1: be getting more. Not a fan of the Bills building

1380
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 1: their team to beat a specific other team. Well, I'm

1381
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 1: not saying get eleven guys like that, but I would

1382
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 1: like a few more. All I'm saying is, here's what

1383
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying. The Bills, through what they have done in

1384
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:12,799
Speaker 1: their philosophies and the way there their list finger quote process,

1385
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 1: they've gotten to the point where the last two years

1386
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 1: they could have would or should have been in the

1387
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: super Bowl, they are good enough to be there and

1388
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 1: any given on any of the last two years and

1389
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:27,639
Speaker 1: this one coming up. Just keep doing what they're doing,

1390
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:29,560
Speaker 1: and they don't need to go outside the lines and

1391
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 1: go out and make some cockamamie trade for sequan, and

1392
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 1: they don't have to jump up and pay big money

1393
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 1: to some shiny new free agent to put them over that.

1394
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 1: None of that's gonna happen. Don't get in patient, none

1395
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 1: of that's don't get in paid. Know that what you

1396
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 1: do is gonna be good enough to get you there,

1397
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:50,759
Speaker 1: particularly because you got Josh, you got staff. Your offensive

1398
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 1: line is you know, at least has the bare bones

1399
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:56,440
Speaker 1: now not much depth right now because of contract situations,

1400
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 1: but you got the guys you can go forward with.

1401
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 1: You know, you know, certainly they got holes in their

1402
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 1: roster because of free agency and the contracts that are up.

1403
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 1: Use the philosophy in the formula that got you here again,

1404
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:14,560
Speaker 1: which means it will work even though you've been disappointed

1405
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:17,640
Speaker 1: the last two years. It will bear fruit. It is

1406
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 1: already born fruit. Don't forget where we all came from.

1407
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:25,639
Speaker 1: Let's not forget our roots. Well right in the dry

1408
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 1: ground of the drought years. Well, yes, but we're still

1409
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 1: looking for the golden pineapple. Here I get yes we are, Yes,

1410
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 1: yes we are. I was trying to think of a fruit.

1411
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 1: But the thing that will never get the Lombardi trovies

1412
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 1: never guaranteed anybody, and it's never guarantee that will ever

1413
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 1: you'll ever win one, but to get there and take

1414
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 1: a being able to take a swing and have a

1415
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 1: team good enough to be there year over year, year

1416
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:55,600
Speaker 1: over year over year, which is clearly with Brandon and

1417
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 1: clearly one of these years we're gonna win the coin

1418
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 1: tossing over time time. We're gonna be the you know,

1419
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:04,719
Speaker 1: we're going to be the team that makes those plays

1420
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 1: with thirteen seconds left. You're going to be the team

1421
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 1: that doesn't double doink like Chicago did four years ago.

1422
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 1: If we're going to be the team that doesn't go

1423
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 1: wide right, you know, one, if you year over year

1424
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 1: after year, you get back there and you keep taking

1425
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 1: your swing. That's what the Indianapolis Colts did here with

1426
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, one of the great quarterbacks of all time.

1427
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,719
Speaker 1: Sooner or later, during the throes of the Tom Brady area,

1428
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:28,720
Speaker 1: you hit it and you're gonna get there, and you

1429
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 1: just need to keep giving yourself opportunity after opportunity after

1430
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:33,799
Speaker 1: to opportunity, and that's what this philosophy and the process

1431
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 1: they're using has done for them. So don't stop. Okay,

1432
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 1: contract extensions today for Cardinals GM Steve Kim and head

1433
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 1: coach Cliff Kingsbury. Is that an example of a shot

1434
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 1: back across the ball at Kyler Murray. Hey, be quiet,

1435
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 1: We'll get to you eventually. What do you think, Well,

1436
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, it's certainly the contract extensions we're

1437
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 1: in process prior to su Kyler Murray's sure public manifesto

1438
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 1: and they announce I'm probably because this is when they

1439
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 1: got done right. So at the same time, there's a

1440
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:06,719
Speaker 1: part of me that wants to believe there's a small

1441
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 1: part of the Cardinals organization saying your turn, yeah, wait,

1442
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 1: your turn? Yeah right also but yees be a little

1443
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 1: bit of but I'll say this too. It was it

1444
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:20,640
Speaker 1: was two weeks after the Super Bowl, two or three

1445
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 1: weeks after the Super Bowl where Kyler Murray started doing

1446
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 1: this stuff with me. The only thing, the only problem

1447
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:26,640
Speaker 1: I have with what Kyler Murray has done is you

1448
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:29,679
Speaker 1: know the way in which he did it publicly? Yeah,

1449
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 1: and this this when there was really the sixth grade

1450
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 1: school dance of unfriending the Cardinals on Facebook. Oh my god,

1451
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 1: that was brief. Yeah, I already forgot about that. I

1452
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 1: mean it's I mean, that's kid, that's childish. So that's

1453
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 1: that to me, was wrong, but it is. It was

1454
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:49,639
Speaker 1: the right move for him and the big pictures, like, listen,

1455
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 1: as soon as it's time for his option that can

1456
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 1: be picked up, they need to pick it up and

1457
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:56,680
Speaker 1: sign him to an extension. It's it's okay for him,

1458
01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:59,560
Speaker 1: say listen, let's go. It did get I get it.

1459
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 1: I think it does get a little sticky with this though. Steve,

1460
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 1: the head coach, Cliff Kingsbury has the same agent as

1461
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. Oh yeah, does that get a little sticky?

1462
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 1: It ken right, because he just negotiated a contract extension

1463
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 1: for the head coach before the quarterback. Right, Knowing how

1464
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 1: petty Kyler Murray seems to be, he might turn around

1465
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 1: and said, you're not my agent anyway. That might have

1466
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 1: been getting getting some inklings that from behind the curtain

1467
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 1: might have prompted Kyler Murray say listen, he's getting something

1468
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 1: for me now, all right, Now that's my turn, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a little bit. It wouldn't surprise me. Given the lack

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Speaker 1: of maturity that he showed in his little social media thing,

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01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 1: he might have been, you know, throwing a tantrum because

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Speaker 1: somebody else was in line before he was. Yeah, but

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01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 1: that seems to speak to what we're hearing about. A.

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01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 1: We got to take a break here, and when we

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01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 1: come back, we are anticipating we will be joined by

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01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 1: Washington Commander's head coach, Ron Rivera. We'll huddle up with

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01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 1: him on over time I miss. He's a new member

1478
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 1: of the Competition Committee for the NFL, and talk about

1479
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 1: the quarterback situation in Washington, which is very much up

1480
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 1: in the air. That more coming your way next year.

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01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 1: On One Bill's Live Present, anybody collied to help. It's

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01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome back to One Bills Live.

1483
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker here with you live at the

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01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 1: NFL Combine in Indianapolis, and we are awaiting the arrival

1485
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 1: of Washington's Commander's head coach Ron. Yeah, he's making his right, Brostice.

1486
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 1: We're in the convention Center and for any of you

1487
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 1: have been to Indianapolis, the whole downtown is convention center

1488
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 1: and meeting rooms in the NCA double A and multiple

1489
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 1: city blocks building the we're in as you know, you

1490
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 1: cart gantin. Yeah, you could shoot the Ten Commandments in

1491
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 1: here with cecil beat the mill. It's so big, and

1492
01:14:57,920 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 1: I mean the place is enormous. So you get parked

1493
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 1: blimp in here, so you could, yeah, it would fit. Yeah,

1494
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:05,639
Speaker 1: And so he's got to make his way from one

1495
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:07,439
Speaker 1: area all the way over here, so it's like a

1496
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 1: four hundred yard walk. But it's it's it's really is interesting.

1497
01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 1: And we've noticed this too that we get guys like

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01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 1: Ron Revere and Frank was here and Charles Davis and

1499
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 1: you know, I saw a lovey Smith walking in a

1500
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 1: little bit ago. The difference in the atmosphere. And this

1501
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 1: is why people like you and I and all these

1502
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 1: media people could descend on this thing is because this

1503
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:28,720
Speaker 1: is the time you get to talk to these guys

1504
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:31,839
Speaker 1: when they're guards down. They're not worried about their next opponent.

1505
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:35,560
Speaker 1: They're not worried about divulging game secrets or competitive advantages

1506
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 1: or anything like that. It's about players who are coming

1507
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 1: into the league, most of whom they'll never have on

1508
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:41,640
Speaker 1: their teams or never be able to coach. But they

1509
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:46,599
Speaker 1: got to evaluate there's really no pressure or competitive edge

1510
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 1: to be gleaned by talking about these guys and and also,

1511
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 1: like with Frank and Ron here about the rules and

1512
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:55,560
Speaker 1: about what's going on in the office, some of the

1513
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 1: things that happened, and the water and the things that

1514
01:15:57,439 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 1: happened in this last last regular season or water under

1515
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 1: the bridge now and you can kind of let your

1516
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 1: guard down and open up about it. It's fun. I'm

1517
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:08,679
Speaker 1: most interested in seeing how his take on his first

1518
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 1: experience in the room in the NFL Competition Committee differs

1519
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 1: from Franks, because they're both new guys in the room,

1520
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 1: and I'm curious to see if his perspective is any

1521
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 1: different from Franks, because I think what we got from

1522
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 1: Frank was you're really getting down to the pebbles of

1523
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 1: what the NFL rules are. You're not talking about the

1524
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 1: boulders anymore, and it gets down to the littlest, finest

1525
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:36,760
Speaker 1: brains of sand I noticed when I was in you

1526
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:38,679
Speaker 1: know that one, it was a bigger meeting. It wasn't

1527
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 1: just a competition committee because there's a number of coaches

1528
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 1: and the position coaches, coordinators, head coaches coordinators, position coaches, officials,

1529
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 1: former players like myself and executives at the league level

1530
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 1: were all there, and the committee was kind of run

1531
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 1: by Rich McKay, but there was also special teams coordinators

1532
01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 1: who were being asked about questions. And Frank was right

1533
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:02,679
Speaker 1: and he mentioned the level of wisdom in that room

1534
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 1: and that and the depth of the history. Now I'm

1535
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:07,799
Speaker 1: not talking about the old guys and the and the founding.

1536
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the evolution from where the rules were

1537
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:15,640
Speaker 1: and the difference between where they were and where they

1538
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 1: are now and why they're that, why they moved, why

1539
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,560
Speaker 1: they make this incremental change, and why they made the

1540
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 1: next incremental change and the next and the next and next.

1541
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 1: And I made a comment to Frank, he knows who

1542
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:30,680
Speaker 1: you know, Rich McKay knows who carved out the hieroglyphs

1543
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 1: of the original rule book, you know, and how they

1544
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 1: got to these rules. So the level of wisdom and

1545
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 1: the things that they talk about and the levels they

1546
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:39,600
Speaker 1: talk about im and I was like, I was, like

1547
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 1: Frank said, I was like, Wow, that these guys know

1548
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 1: what they're doing. I would say the biggest thing I

1549
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 1: took from Frank was, and we've seen written reports about

1550
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 1: this around the league as well, the success of the

1551
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 1: replay Assistant. It almost sounds as though the Competition Committee

1552
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 1: feels that's one of the best things they done in

1553
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:04,920
Speaker 1: recent years in terms of the first year's success rate

1554
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 1: of it and how universally it was received so well.

1555
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 1: I mean, it was like two thumbs up across the board.

1556
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:18,720
Speaker 1: And I thought Frank was very articulate in giving us

1557
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 1: examples because I told him, hey, that and that also

1558
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:24,560
Speaker 1: took a burden off of you guys as coaches to

1559
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:26,800
Speaker 1: not have to pull the red flag and say, well,

1560
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 1: I'm only gonna get to do this twice here three

1561
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 1: times if I get one of these right, right, do

1562
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 1: I want to throw it here? And you got a

1563
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 1: ten second window to make that decision, and for the

1564
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 1: for the official to come out to hey, keep it

1565
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 1: in your pocket for a second, they're looking at it, right,

1566
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:42,680
Speaker 1: that's an enormous burden off the coach. Yes it is,

1567
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 1: and it's and while it is a lot of stress

1568
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 1: off the coach, it took no time, it didn't wasn't

1569
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:54,599
Speaker 1: it was very unintrusive to the game. It was simple,

1570
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 1: and it got it right and the game moved. Um.

1571
01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the things that was the

1572
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 1: most rewarding. And but think about it too, and here's

1573
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 1: why it took them so long to do it. Think

1574
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 1: about you're you're given that guy a little bit autonomy

1575
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 1: to like overreach every aspect of the game, and that

1576
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 1: big that's a big change. Usually these these rules that

1577
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 1: they tweak are like very very specific and fine pointed,

1578
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 1: like you can do this but not that, and you

1579
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 1: can do this but not that. Well they give to

1580
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 1: give an official that kind of sway over the entire

1581
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 1: overarching game was a big move for them, and they

1582
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 1: were really worried about how it came out. But as

1583
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 1: you said, the officials in the booth, the way they

1584
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 1: administrated it, the way they handled it, and the things

1585
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:41,720
Speaker 1: they fixed were really a huge success. We're here, the

1586
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera is running a little bit behind, so we're

1587
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 1: going to take a break here so we can hopefully

1588
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 1: have more time with him on the other side of

1589
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 1: this break. So hopefully we have Ron Rivera for you

1590
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:52,599
Speaker 1: when we return here On One Bill's Line, presented by

1591
01:19:52,680 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 1: a Lot of Health, It's Buffalo Bills three. All right,

1592
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 1: welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker,

1593
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 1: and Washington commander's head coach, Ron Rivera joining US coach.

1594
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 1: I'm no dollar in the fine jar. I got the

1595
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 1: new name right, I didn't nothing. You know, I still

1596
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:18,080
Speaker 1: joke with Steve because he still sometimes does the San

1597
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 1: Diego Chargers thing. So I know it's going to take

1598
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:22,639
Speaker 1: some learning, but we're on it. Washington Commanders head coach,

1599
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 1: Glad to have you with us. It's good to have

1600
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 1: you sitting here right next to us. And thanks for

1601
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 1: correcting us before we got on the air because we

1602
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 1: knew Frank Reich was a new member of the competition

1603
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 1: for me. But this is your fourth year now, but

1604
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 1: only second year in the room because of COVID. So

1605
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 1: what is your kind of reintroduction to it in person

1606
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:42,680
Speaker 1: kind of done for you in terms of your perspective

1607
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 1: with it. I think what it's done is it's given

1608
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:45,800
Speaker 1: me a little bit more clarity on a lot of

1609
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 1: things that have come through Fruition in terms of the

1610
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 1: last past two seasons. Yeah, you know, now you get

1611
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:52,800
Speaker 1: a little bit more better and sending better field because

1612
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:55,240
Speaker 1: the discussions go longer. You know, when you're on Zoom,

1613
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:58,639
Speaker 1: the discussions aren't in depth. You know, you don't see

1614
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 1: people's body language tell you whether they agree or disagree

1615
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 1: joint exactly, so you really can't have a conversation or

1616
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:07,960
Speaker 1: a discussion. We've been able to do that and we've

1617
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 1: really come to a lot of clarification, a lot of

1618
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 1: things that have have been passed in the last two seasons. Yeah,

1619
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 1: it's interesting because when you're on zoom and you know,

1620
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:16,840
Speaker 1: we all we've all used it and we're all kind

1621
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 1: of fluent in it. But um, the thing that you

1622
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 1: get in person is give and take. When you're in

1623
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:24,679
Speaker 1: on zoom, you get all the you get all the gives,

1624
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 1: but you don't get to see anything else, and you

1625
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 1: don't get it. It's hard to go back and forth

1626
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 1: as fluently as you do when you're in the same

1627
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 1: room because you can say, hold your finger up, say

1628
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 1: wait a minute, and they'll listen for you. Right, So, um,

1629
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 1: you're right. It does make a big difference. And Frank said,

1630
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 1: you've had three days of all day meetings. What's been

1631
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:47,599
Speaker 1: the main topic. Well, everything from players health and safety

1632
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 1: you know, is always a big topic. Just some procedural

1633
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 1: stuff in terms of what's going on, you know, with

1634
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:57,280
Speaker 1: with with game day productions and stuff like that. Some

1635
01:21:57,400 --> 01:21:59,879
Speaker 1: of the things involved what's going on with the draft process.

1636
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of things that go through these

1637
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 1: these these days that you're meeting on UM. But one

1638
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 1: of the things that we did do today we did

1639
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to spend some time with the NFLPA

1640
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 1: listening to them, explain to them some of our topics

1641
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 1: that we've been discussing and some of our stanza. So

1642
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:17,120
Speaker 1: that's all been very productive. And then Brandon being kind

1643
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:18,800
Speaker 1: of shared with us that Bills were one of the

1644
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 1: teams that submitted one of the overtime proposals. I guess

1645
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 1: there's about a handful of them. How do you guys

1646
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 1: givvy up your time? I mean, do you give them

1647
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 1: all equal time or do we say, well, let's spend

1648
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:31,639
Speaker 1: a little bit more time on this because this sounds

1649
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:34,760
Speaker 1: pretty good. Well, they're they're all agenda, all part of

1650
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 1: the agenda. You know, every every day we come out

1651
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 1: and we're hey, we're gonna we're gonna cover this area,

1652
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 1: cover of this area, cover this area. So as you

1653
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:43,600
Speaker 1: as you prepare for those and you start the discussions,

1654
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 1: you know, you you try to hit them up, think

1655
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:49,240
Speaker 1: about what best questions to be asked best answers that

1656
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 1: could be potential for those questions, and then when we

1657
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 1: finish up, they'll reach back out to those people that

1658
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 1: have submitted them, talk to them about it, see if

1659
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:58,000
Speaker 1: there's anything else that needs to be explained or something

1660
01:22:58,040 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 1: like that, and then they'll be all set for the

1661
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:01,840
Speaker 1: next set of discussions that we'll have, which will come

1662
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 1: in about another two weeks. So, and it's just you know,

1663
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 1: this process goes through. How if are you gonna guys

1664
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:09,599
Speaker 1: gonna be here for the next couple of weeks, you're

1665
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:12,840
Speaker 1: gonna be in person until you're done, or when's the

1666
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:14,680
Speaker 1: next time you get together? Um? What will happen is

1667
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 1: and it'll start sometime next week, I believe. Um we

1668
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:19,519
Speaker 1: will get back together, but we will get together on

1669
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 1: zoom right, Um, and so we'll we'll really go through

1670
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 1: the discussion. So what we've done is we've set those

1671
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:28,599
Speaker 1: coming conversations up already with these three days of meeting

1672
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:31,639
Speaker 1: so far, what has been what has been the most

1673
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:37,800
Speaker 1: intriguing or discussion Which which proposal about overtime has got

1674
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 1: garnered the most positive attention? Oh wow, you know, because

1675
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:44,920
Speaker 1: they've they've all gotten a lot of uh discussion. You

1676
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 1: know a lot of give and take in terms of

1677
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 1: all this makes sense, but that doesn't, you know, so

1678
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 1: you worry that you know that the worst thing could

1679
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 1: happen is is is you know we're split where it's

1680
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 1: you know two two two two two all the ways, um,

1681
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:00,600
Speaker 1: you know, and what will happen. We'll go back and

1682
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:02,680
Speaker 1: we'll discuss even further a lot of things, you know

1683
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:04,800
Speaker 1: that we need to take a nice long look at,

1684
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 1: you know, anything from you know, how do you do

1685
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:10,720
Speaker 1: the overtime where both teams make sure they get a

1686
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 1: chance to touch the ball. How do you do overtime?

1687
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 1: Do you consider some of the college rules as far

1688
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 1: as those types of things. So those are all things

1689
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:19,559
Speaker 1: that we're looking at and vetting at, and we'll be discussing.

1690
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:23,040
Speaker 1: Bills are very interested in their new offensive Bills fans,

1691
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:25,400
Speaker 1: i should say, are very interested in their new offensive coordinator,

1692
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 1: Ken Dorsey, who spent five years on your staff in

1693
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:31,640
Speaker 1: Caroline's quarterbacks coach. So what would you say, just in

1694
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:34,560
Speaker 1: your time with him, which has been pretty extensive, what

1695
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:38,759
Speaker 1: would you call his strengths as a coach, particularly handling

1696
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and bringing them along within the scope of an

1697
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 1: offensive scheme. I think if there's one thing that Kenny does,

1698
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 1: he develops a tremendous relationship with these guys. He really

1699
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:49,920
Speaker 1: does and gets their trust very quickly. From his perspective

1700
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:51,559
Speaker 1: having played the game. It doesn't make him a better

1701
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 1: coach than anybody, just means he has perspective and understanding us.

1702
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:57,559
Speaker 1: I think is a huge step for him. And there'll

1703
01:24:57,560 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 1: be a piece that I know he uses as a coach,

1704
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 1: I believe, um, but he has a feeling understanding for

1705
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:04,360
Speaker 1: the game, the flow of the game, how things go

1706
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 1: during the game, and he'll be able to share that. Um.

1707
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:10,280
Speaker 1: He's he's very bright, very knowledgeable, and he's got he's

1708
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 1: got a very wide um number of players and that

1709
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 1: that he's capable of coaching and teaching very well. I'm

1710
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:22,519
Speaker 1: not saying he's gonna have this five thousand, you know,

1711
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 1: page playbook. He's going to have the ability to to

1712
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 1: to use those that knowledge and making sure that whatever

1713
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 1: he does and however he does it, you know, it's

1714
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 1: going to be to the best benefit of of of

1715
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 1: the player of the team, you know. And and he'll

1716
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 1: do it the right way. And I just I got

1717
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 1: a lot of faith in him and and I'm glad

1718
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 1: to see Sean and you know, and and and UH

1719
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 1: and Brandon both have that kind of faith in him

1720
01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 1: as well as well as we get Coli. We don't

1721
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 1: have much time with you. I want to get to

1722
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 1: ask you. You know, Job one, it seems for the

1723
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:52,519
Speaker 1: Commanders this offseason is finding a guy at quarterback and

1724
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 1: take snaps at you know that the fans can get

1725
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:57,600
Speaker 1: behind that. You've got some confidence in Uh. How are

1726
01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 1: those evaluations going, What are your thought process and what's

1727
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:02,640
Speaker 1: the next step for the Commanders. Well, the biggest thing

1728
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 1: we did, Steven is we've tried to say, hey, there's

1729
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:07,800
Speaker 1: four avenues for us to find that guy. Is he

1730
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:10,760
Speaker 1: currently on our staff and are we developing him? Two

1731
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 1: is he something that you can trade for? Three? Is

1732
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:15,639
Speaker 1: he in free agency? And four is he in the draft?

1733
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 1: I mean, those are the four avenues. We're doing a

1734
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 1: lot of homework right now, we really are. We're looking

1735
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 1: at all these different possibilities as far as the four

1736
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 1: different avenues. You know, we've looked at the three guys

1737
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:28,680
Speaker 1: we have currently that are with us and trying to determine, hey,

1738
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 1: you know, what's the plan for those guys going forward?

1739
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:33,760
Speaker 1: What's our next plan. And as we go through that

1740
01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 1: um one thing I will say being here and seeing

1741
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:40,800
Speaker 1: you know who is you know, draftable in terms of

1742
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 1: you know, where does this guy fit? Does he fit

1743
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:45,639
Speaker 1: what we do? Canny Canny come in and be part

1744
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 1: of what we're doing with his skill set. Then you

1745
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 1: look at you know, hey, is this a viable option

1746
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 1: in terms of trade? And then you talk about the

1747
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 1: guys their potentially out there in free agency. So we

1748
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 1: are going through that process right now and we're really

1749
01:26:57,520 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 1: just trying to put it together. Is your philosophy going

1750
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 1: to beat as to wide Nett bring fifty fifty guys

1751
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:03,640
Speaker 1: in he he was the best one? Or is it

1752
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 1: say you know what, we got this guy and let's

1753
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:07,560
Speaker 1: just support this guy as much as we can. And

1754
01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 1: that's what we're gonna do. We're gonna we're hoping to

1755
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 1: be able to limit it to Hey, these are the

1756
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:13,160
Speaker 1: guys that are gonna come in and computer, Hey, this

1757
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 1: is our guy, this is this is the next guy,

1758
01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 1: this is That's what we're trying to do. We're trying

1759
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 1: to get it down. And then Fitz, is you know

1760
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 1: a guy that unfortunately you didn't get a chance to

1761
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 1: take advantage of on the field because of the hip

1762
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:26,559
Speaker 1: injury out for the year. I know he's a free

1763
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 1: agent or set to become a free agent. Now. He's

1764
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 1: a guy that Bills fans still love and admire from

1765
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 1: the time when he was there as a starter. I

1766
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:37,920
Speaker 1: think they'd be over the moon if they could get him,

1767
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:40,080
Speaker 1: even as a backup to Josh. But where where do

1768
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:43,480
Speaker 1: you sit with Fits, especially after getting such an abbreviated

1769
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 1: time with him. And that was hard, it really was.

1770
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 1: And you know, and I think the unfortunate part is

1771
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:50,160
Speaker 1: here's a guy that has had a pretty good career

1772
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:52,720
Speaker 1: and was a guy that we really felt could come

1773
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:54,559
Speaker 1: in and do some things for us. You know, we're

1774
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 1: now in a situation where, you know what we're gonna

1775
01:27:56,360 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 1: look and we're gonna look to move forward, you know,

1776
01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 1: and it's unfortunate that you know, he had the injury

1777
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:03,760
Speaker 1: right off the bat. Yeah, you've got a conversation where

1778
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:05,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna get try and find your starter and your

1779
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:07,600
Speaker 1: guy in your face of your franchise elite guy. You

1780
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:09,800
Speaker 1: also do need a guy like Fits to come in

1781
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:12,360
Speaker 1: and be the mentor, that quarterback coach in the room,

1782
01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 1: that kind of guy who which is exactly what Bills

1783
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 1: fans would expect him to be. For us, it's not

1784
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 1: just one guy you gotta get. You gotta get a

1785
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 1: whole room full of guys. We do. And what was

1786
01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:23,800
Speaker 1: interesting is when when we did have fits and when

1787
01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:25,840
Speaker 1: he was you did see the impact he had on

1788
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:27,519
Speaker 1: some of our younger players. You saw the way he

1789
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:29,960
Speaker 1: put his arm around some of our young receivers and said, hey, look,

1790
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:32,559
Speaker 1: when you're doing this and you're coming out of your break,

1791
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 1: just know if I put the little bit further out

1792
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:36,880
Speaker 1: in front of you, that's to pull you away from

1793
01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:39,200
Speaker 1: the defender. You know, that type of stuff that Nelson

1794
01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:41,400
Speaker 1: the kid understands why the ball wasn't thrown here. It

1795
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:43,759
Speaker 1: was thrown here to keep him going. So he's running

1796
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 1: away from So that's the importance of a guy like that. Coach,

1797
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 1: thanks very much for the time. We appreciate it. I

1798
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:51,640
Speaker 1: know you got a busy week here, not only in

1799
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:53,200
Speaker 1: terms of what you gotta do with your club, but

1800
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 1: for the competition committee as well. Thanks very much for

1801
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 1: carving out some time for us. We are appreciate. Thank you, guys.

1802
01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 1: Going to coming season. That's Washington Commander's head coach Ron

1803
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 1: Rivera as we will wrap up this Wednesday edition of

1804
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:08,720
Speaker 1: One Bills live here at the Combine in Indianapolis, Steve,

1805
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:10,400
Speaker 1: and I'll catch you tomorrow at one