Speaker 1: What's up, Bachelor Happy Hour listeners, Happy twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1: I can not believe it is already January, already a
Speaker 1: new year, and has I mean, so much has happened
Speaker 1: in the past year and the fact that we are
Speaker 1: starting a new Bachelor season already just blows my mind.
Speaker 1: I hope everyone had a great relaxing holiday with some
Speaker 1: time off, and this year We're going to just kick
Speaker 1: things off strong because I am so excited to have
Speaker 1: one of my best ladies on joining me as guest
Speaker 1: co host today, Serena. Welcome to Bachelor Happy Hours. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much, Becca, and happy New Year two as well.
Speaker 1: I am so excited to be here with you today.
Speaker 1: So yes, last night we kicked off Clayton season of
Speaker 1: The Bachelor, and I think you will agree with me
Speaker 1: when I say it did not disappoint. I mean, we
Speaker 1: are really starting off this season with love, drama, the
Speaker 1: whole shebang, and I cannot wait to see how it unfolds.
Speaker 1: I'm also super excited for today's guest, the new host
Speaker 1: of The Bat Jesse Palmer, who we finally got to
Speaker 1: see last night, and we are lucky enough to have
Speaker 1: here as our guest on half Yard today. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: so excited to have Jesse on because I know that
Speaker 1: there's been rumblings in bachel Nation if he was going
Speaker 1: to be host, if he was going to be announced
Speaker 1: as like the full time host. There's just so many,
Speaker 1: I think, speculations around him. So we finally got to
Speaker 1: see him. I will say, I want to get to
Speaker 1: know him a little bit more, And that's why I'm
Speaker 1: excited to have him on today because of course, like
Speaker 1: when you're the host, he's so poised and he's the
Speaker 1: one guiding Clayton. He's gone through this before, he was
Speaker 1: Bachelor several years ago, and he's been part of this world,
Speaker 1: so I think there's no one better than that can
Speaker 1: kind of kick off the year off Clayton season with him.
Speaker 1: But it's going to be good to get to know
Speaker 1: him a bit more, the manned behind the host role.
Speaker 1: If you will, I definitely agree. There's a couple of
Speaker 1: things I really love about Jesse, which is one he's
Speaker 1: a fellow Canadian. Yes, that's right, he's a half Bachelor.
Speaker 1: And I really thought that on last night episode him
Speaker 1: and Clayton had fantastic chemistry. They really just seemed to
Speaker 1: have a good vibe. They seemed comfortable with each other,
Speaker 1: and I think that Jesse's gonna be able to give
Speaker 1: Clayton a lot of really fantastic advice this season. Definitely.
Speaker 1: And you want to know what one of the most
Speaker 1: fun parts watching it all back was was obviously we
Speaker 1: haven't filmed at the Mansion in a while, but this
Speaker 1: was both Clayton and Jesse's first times at the mansion
Speaker 1: because when Jesse say that, yeah, because when Jesse was
Speaker 1: Bachelor I don't even think the mansion was a thing yet.
Speaker 1: I don't know where they were when they filmed his season,
Speaker 1: but it was fun to see them get the lay
Speaker 1: of the land and kind of start this new I
Speaker 1: don't want to say journey, but I'm going to say journey.
Speaker 1: If you will together do it? Say it? How many
Speaker 1: cliches can we make in one episode? So funny, but
Speaker 1: it really did. It brought a lot of the magic
Speaker 1: back to the show. I mean, we haven't seen the
Speaker 1: Mansion in over a year now. It's obviously an iconic
Speaker 1: building in the franchise, and I was personally really excited
Speaker 1: to see it brought back to life. And I am
Speaker 1: sure Clayton and Jesse really kind of felt it all
Speaker 1: come together. Yeah, it was a night one is always
Speaker 1: so fun. I mean, there's, of course, so many women
Speaker 1: that we meet, so many different entrances, so many different personalities,
Speaker 1: which leads me to how I want to start this out,
Speaker 1: because before we really get into the recap of everything,
Speaker 1: we saw so many different styles, so many accessories, beautiful dresses,
Speaker 1: which I want to get into because I know how
Speaker 1: much you love fashion and you always are styled to
Speaker 1: the nines. You always dress so well, so I might
Speaker 1: hire you to style me. But I know you definitely
Speaker 1: took notes on the style and the accessories. So let's
Speaker 1: get into some of the highlights, like who would you
Speaker 1: say was the best dress out of all these women? Yes,
Speaker 1: I am so ready to talk about the fashion because
Speaker 1: we saw some really great looks this season. I think
Speaker 1: we saw a lot more gold than we've ever seen before.
Speaker 1: There's usually a ton of red, I feel like in
Speaker 1: the room, and this year we were more on like
Speaker 1: the gold palette, which I'm a big fan of. Speaking
Speaker 1: of gold, one of my favorite best dress was Sarah.
Speaker 1: She was first of the Limo. She had beautiful, like
Speaker 1: long wavy hair and the dress just fit her gorgeous,
Speaker 1: and I just feel like it matched her skin tone
Speaker 1: really beautifully. Yeah big fan of that look. But I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to give my best dress to Serene. She
Speaker 1: wore this stunning turquoise fitted dress with a low back,
Speaker 1: a little rousing in the back, and what topped off
Speaker 1: the look for me was she had these gorgeous drop
Speaker 1: earrings on. She was the only one in that color,
Speaker 1: so she really stood out. But yeah, Serene would have
Speaker 1: to be my best dress. I have to agree with you.
Speaker 1: I loved so I'm a news splash. I'm sure this
Speaker 1: doesn't come as a shocked anyone not super into fashion.
Speaker 1: I just don't pay attention to detail that well, you know,
Speaker 1: and when I watched these episodes back, there's so much
Speaker 1: going on that I'm trying to take in the conversation
Speaker 1: that I don't always pay attention to what people are wearing.
Speaker 1: But Serenes gown was stunning. That color was incredib bowl.
Speaker 1: I'm glad that she did something a little bit different
Speaker 1: and bold and it was just beautiful. It fit her
Speaker 1: so well. I would give her the best dress of
Speaker 1: the night too. And I also have to agree there
Speaker 1: was so much gold, so many sparkles, which I was like,
Speaker 1: this is pretty for the New Year. Absolutely, absolutely, very
Speaker 1: like twenty twenty two, Happy New Year. Let's all throw
Speaker 1: on some gold, some sparkles. We didn't see as much
Speaker 1: white as we usually see. We only saw two white dresses.
Speaker 1: But I did think that Susie, she was in like
Speaker 1: a one strop white tight gown. Her and Clayton. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, we got like a little bride and
Speaker 1: groom moments happening. Because he was in the Navy talk.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm liking this. They look really good together.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Susie, I'm a fan of Susie already. I
Speaker 1: hope Susie, if you're listening, please don't disappoint this season
Speaker 1: because right now she I don't know if it's like
Speaker 1: her personality or if she just reminds me of somebody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but she's I'm calling it right now, she's a top contender.
Speaker 1: I think Susie will go far. Absolutely her personality. I mean,
Speaker 1: she's stunning, but her personality really shine through. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sure all the girls feel nervous to different extents.
Speaker 1: Maybe she was really nervous, But if she was, I
Speaker 1: couldn't tell. She just seemed to be really excited, enjoying herself,
Speaker 1: and very comfortable in her own skin. And yeah, I
Speaker 1: thought they definitely had chemistry. I see her going far
Speaker 1: as well. And she's a badass. She's not only traveled
Speaker 1: around the world, has lived in different countries. But she
Speaker 1: and I don't want to screw this up, but she's
Speaker 1: in some sort of fighting gets called jiu jitsu. Jiu jitsu. Yes, yes, Oh,
Speaker 1: my friend is jiu jitsu. I should okay, okay, Well
Speaker 1: she's a badass. Dang, yeah, okay. I was like when
Speaker 1: I saw her intro package, I was like, I'm a
Speaker 1: fan of this one. And I loved her intro too.
Speaker 1: She didn't just go in for the hug. She went
Speaker 1: in for the firm handshake buzzer, so you know she's
Speaker 1: got a good sense humor. I know, I thought the
Speaker 1: firm handshake was a bowl move. I was like, Susie,
Speaker 1: where are you going with this? This is the bachelor,
Speaker 1: Let's go in for that hug. She played it off
Speaker 1: really cute, and I really liked her entrance. I also
Speaker 1: really liked who was the other entrance. I was saying, oh,
Speaker 1: Kate Kate did the nixt entrance or she pulled out
Speaker 1: her shots. I thought that was adorable. I thought she
Speaker 1: played it off super well. Oh. I thought she was
Speaker 1: gonna before she pulled out the bottles. I thought, you
Speaker 1: know how like we wear the like the nipple covers,
Speaker 1: like the petals or that I call them chicken cutlets. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what she was gonna pull out. And I was like,
Speaker 1: damn girl. And the first meeting, I'm so happy it
Speaker 1: was shot and not that, which I think was good.
Speaker 1: I think it helped loosen both of them up a
Speaker 1: little bit. And you know, let's be honest, that night
Speaker 1: is so full of nerves, and it's just like I
Speaker 1: feel like sometimes at different moments you're paralyzed with just
Speaker 1: like everything that's happening. So I felt like it kind
Speaker 1: of brought them down to like this fun level where
Speaker 1: they could just take a sit, feel the burn, get
Speaker 1: into the rest of the night. It was good. Speaking
Speaker 1: of going back to Susie's entrance with the firm handshake,
Speaker 1: did you think that was more bold or do you
Speaker 1: I don't even remember who did it, but there was
Speaker 1: one woman who walked in and didn't even talk. She
Speaker 1: didn't say it, dear Lord. Yes, wait, I feel like
Speaker 1: I wrote her name down. I think it was Ivanna,
Speaker 1: and I thought it was kind of sexy. I could
Speaker 1: never have pulled that off because I talk way too
Speaker 1: much and I get too nervous. But I could never
Speaker 1: I could never have done it. I would have been
Speaker 1: so nervous. I would have looked so awkward. She was
Speaker 1: an overall bold entrance because she was wearing like a
Speaker 1: really bright bruce Yeah, the one sleeve dress, like very
Speaker 1: like sexy, and she came out and I was like,
Speaker 1: where is this going, When's she gonna talk? Never, she
Speaker 1: was never gonna talk. I loved it, though, I loved
Speaker 1: her style, and I'm sad to say she left, but
Speaker 1: I know, and I don't know if it's because that
Speaker 1: was like one of their only interactions that they had
Speaker 1: where they couldn't even speak. I think it's hard too,
Speaker 1: because not everyone necessarily gets to talk to the lead
Speaker 1: on the first night. And if she didn't get a
Speaker 1: chance to talk to him inside, I mean, he's going
Speaker 1: off of knowing no thing about her. So I think
Speaker 1: something like that is definitely a risk. It could go
Speaker 1: either way. Yeah, it was a little risky. Didn't play
Speaker 1: out for her, but who knows, maybe we will see
Speaker 1: her on Paradise one day. I loved that dress, thought, girl,
Speaker 1: I need to know where you got that dress from.
Speaker 1: It was stunning. It was a statement for sure. Overall,
Speaker 1: it was some great entrances, some pretty chill entrances, but
Speaker 1: we need to get into the actual first night, and
Speaker 1: not only like in the midst of the chaos, but
Speaker 1: prior to that. We have something that happened that I
Speaker 1: don't think we've ever seen before on the show, and
Speaker 1: that is a woman self eliminating before the arrivals even
Speaker 1: and so yeah, definitely a shock Sally. Sally shocked the
Speaker 1: nation for sure with that one. I can say I've
Speaker 1: never seen that from my time watching the show. And
Speaker 1: all I'll say is I want Sally on the podcast
Speaker 1: because I got a lot of follow up questions about
Speaker 1: this engagement about the wedding. I mean, I want the details.
Speaker 1: But I will say I respected that she turned down
Speaker 1: Clayton's rose. Yes I did too, I'm actually and I
Speaker 1: will say overall too, I'm surprised that they even included
Speaker 1: any of that because quite frankly, like we didn't need
Speaker 1: to see any of Sally's intro package. We didn't need
Speaker 1: to see that conversation. They really couldn't just cut that
Speaker 1: out and have him meet the thirty Girls night one.
Speaker 1: And so it leads me to think I have a
Speaker 1: suspicion that people are going to fall for Sally. People
Speaker 1: are going to really like Sally, and this is not
Speaker 1: going to be the last time we see Sally on
Speaker 1: a season. I think when she's had more time to
Speaker 1: heal and get through that breakup, you know, because it
Speaker 1: was she was engaged, she was about to get married
Speaker 1: for goodness sake, I think once she's had more time
Speaker 1: and because really ready, I think we'll see her back
Speaker 1: on her screams. I mean, she's beautiful, she seemed, you know,
Speaker 1: like she just wasn't ready. Wasn't the place for it.
Speaker 1: But I also think that it speaks to Clayton's journey.
Speaker 1: I think that's probably why they showed it, because when
Speaker 1: I was watching it, you know, I definitely felt for Sally.
Speaker 1: I respected that she leaned into her decision of you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not ready and I'm gonna go home. I think
Speaker 1: that was the respectful thing to do for both Sally
Speaker 1: and for Clayton. But I think imagine, I mean, you
Speaker 1: were the lead, Becca, how would you have felt if
Speaker 1: someone came tried to leave this was you know, before
Speaker 1: you're even stuffing out of the limo, you said, hey,
Speaker 1: I feel the connection. I'm excited. I want you to say,
Speaker 1: here's the rose and they said no. I mean Clayton's
Speaker 1: first rose as the Bachelor was turned out. How do
Speaker 1: you think that affected him going to Night one? Oh,
Speaker 1: it would have been tough. And I was thinking about that, like,
Speaker 1: how would I have reacted? I mean, I think he
Speaker 1: looked so kind, so thoughtful. I think he looked very
Speaker 1: respectful in that moment where he, you know, he was
Speaker 1: into her. He had mentioned that there was that connection,
Speaker 1: that chemistry, but he can't force anything and he has
Speaker 1: to respect her wishes. So I think he came across
Speaker 1: looking great in that scenario. But I think being in
Speaker 1: that position, when you're already nervous, it's already very overwhelming,
Speaker 1: I would be torn because I'd be like, Okay, I
Speaker 1: still have so many incredible people I'm going to be
Speaker 1: meeting tonight, Like I'm not going to let this really
Speaker 1: put a damper on what's to come, because there's still
Speaker 1: so much potential, but also I would feel a little
Speaker 1: bit down because, let's be honest, like that's like, whoever
Speaker 1: the lead is is the most eligible person to be
Speaker 1: dating right now, and so that just because it doesn't happen,
Speaker 1: I'd be a little shocked and like, you know, it
Speaker 1: wouldn't feel great. It would be a little kick to
Speaker 1: the gut of like a Okay, is this what it's
Speaker 1: good to be? Like, like what was the point of
Speaker 1: that conversation if she wasn't ready, I would say though
Speaker 1: his energy going in tonight one seemed super excited once
Speaker 1: that first limbo pulled up, so if he was phased
Speaker 1: by it, he didn't show it. And all the women
Speaker 1: seem fantastic, so I think he's got a really good group.
Speaker 1: But Sally wasn't the only woman to leave that night.
Speaker 1: We also had Claire. Now that was a whole different situation.
Speaker 1: I'll say, I have always kind of wanted someone to
Speaker 1: meet the lead and say, you know what, I don't
Speaker 1: feel the connection. I mean, there's so many women there
Speaker 1: someone has gone and not feel it. But I think
Speaker 1: Claire maybe took it a little too far with how
Speaker 1: open and strongly she was expressing her dislike for Clayton,
Speaker 1: and I think it's definitely for the best that she's
Speaker 1: not there anymore. Yeah, I will say it was entertaining
Speaker 1: because again, that's not something we've seen before. I mean,
Speaker 1: most people are head over heels for whoever it is,
Speaker 1: even if it's just because you're like sucked into that moment.
Speaker 1: But the way she went about it was terrible, and
Speaker 1: she lied basically on national television, like she fled out,
Speaker 1: said I hate him, and then when he confronted her
Speaker 1: about it, she said I didn't say that. She's like, no,
Speaker 1: I don't hate you. I was like, well, you did
Speaker 1: just get multiple times that you have the footage, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the footage, we have the receipts. But yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: when she sat down, was like, the vibes just aren't there.
Speaker 1: I was like, totally fair, Like I've been waiting for
Speaker 1: this to happen. But then when she went on to
Speaker 1: just be like I hate him, it's awful. I was like, well, Claire,
Speaker 1: you know church was outside that can take you home,
Speaker 1: and I think that you should get in one of them.
Speaker 1: Well what did she say when she walks back? And
Speaker 1: obviously it was because she was hurt because he walked
Speaker 1: away with somebody else, Like I know exactly if if
Speaker 1: you would have sat down and not gone off with
Speaker 1: the other woman probably then and there to talk to
Speaker 1: and just sat and talk to de Claire, she probably
Speaker 1: wouldn't have had that big of a reaction. But she
Speaker 1: walks in and she goes, He's a catastrophe. It's like,
Speaker 1: is he or are you like your tailgate more of
Speaker 1: a catastrophe? I don't know. I think I mean, I
Speaker 1: think it was more so of an ego thing, I
Speaker 1: will say honestly. She'll also probably be in Paradise. I mean,
Speaker 1: she'll be entertaining. She would have made a great villain,
Speaker 1: if you will. But we didn't get to see that
Speaker 1: much of her, which is probably a good thing. Maybe
Speaker 1: on Paradise or in her real life she will find
Speaker 1: someone that is the right person for her, and clearly
Speaker 1: that was not Tighty exactly. Well. I can't wait to
Speaker 1: see more of this season, to get to know Clayton
Speaker 1: and all of these women a bit more. But there's
Speaker 1: somebody that we have joining us right now that we
Speaker 1: really want to get to know for who he is,
Speaker 1: because I have a feeling he's going to be around
Speaker 1: for quite some time. So without further do Serena, I
Speaker 1: think we should bring on Jesse Palmer. Yes, let's do it. Jesse.
Speaker 1: We are so excited to have you, and Serena and
Speaker 1: I were talking a little bit before you got on,
Speaker 1: because we obviously know a bit about you, but we're
Speaker 1: so excited to have you here to get to know
Speaker 1: you so much more. I know that you were the
Speaker 1: Bachelor in two thousand and four, correct, I was, yes, Okay,
Speaker 1: so it's good that you're already part of the Bachelor
Speaker 1: family of the Batchelor Nation. I'm sure you've seen so
Speaker 1: many things changed throughout the year since your time on
Speaker 1: the show. But since then, catch us up on your life.
Speaker 1: What have you been doing since two thousand and four
Speaker 1: and now? Oh my gosh, okay, Well, we filmed the
Speaker 1: show in two thousand and four. I think I was
Speaker 1: like twenty five years old. I was in my third
Speaker 1: year with the New York Giants. I was playing quarterback
Speaker 1: in the NFL. It was my dream job. When the
Speaker 1: show wrapped, I went back kept playing football for another
Speaker 1: couple of years, and then started a career in broadcasting
Speaker 1: with ESPN covering college football. So that started in like
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, and I've been kind of doing
Speaker 1: that really for the last fifteen years. It's been like
Speaker 1: ESPN that had opened the door for some food network.
Speaker 1: I got into Good Morning America, Daily Mail TV, and
Speaker 1: a lot of different a lot of different sort of
Speaker 1: mediums on air. I've done some projects for ABC in
Speaker 1: the Bachelor Family as well. I hosted the Posal. We
Speaker 1: just did Ultimate Surfer this past summer. So professionally that
Speaker 1: that's kind of where life has taken me since personally,
Speaker 1: I finally met the love of my life about five
Speaker 1: years ago here in New York City. It took me
Speaker 1: a while, but I finally I finally got there and
Speaker 1: I met Emily, and Emily and I got married last summer,
Speaker 1: which was really yeah, thanks, Ye took me a minute,
Speaker 1: but we finally we finally got there, and so it's
Speaker 1: been really really exciting. We're just you know, we're here
Speaker 1: living in New York City. And obviously been a huge,
Speaker 1: huge fan of the show. I've been watching all the
Speaker 1: shows all along, and as obviously as a member of
Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation, tuning in religiously and obviously so to have
Speaker 1: this opportunity and to get to be a part of
Speaker 1: it and to help Clayton on his journey coming up
Speaker 1: starting tonight. For me, really, it's a dream come true.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is really like a full circle moment
Speaker 1: for you then going back and being you know, Bachelor
Speaker 1: number five, to pursuing a career, getting married, congratulations on that,
Speaker 1: and now your back get the Bachelor Mansion, being the host.
Speaker 1: I mean, how did that feel? Were you excited? Were
Speaker 1: you nervous? I know, you've never been to the mansion before,
Speaker 1: so that was new for you as well as Clayton. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's so true, Street and it's funny sometimes how
Speaker 1: life happens. Like at the time when I was well,
Speaker 1: I never knew I was going to be the Bachelor
Speaker 1: in the first place, and then I never knew that
Speaker 1: I would have this opportunity to come around full circle.
Speaker 1: So I was just so excited. The first night being
Speaker 1: there at the mansion, to me, I was like fanning
Speaker 1: out really because I've actually never been to the mansion before.
Speaker 1: When when I was the bach room, it was a
Speaker 1: totally different house. So you know, we kind of got there,
Speaker 1: I was nervous, I kind of had all the fields.
Speaker 1: It was like nervous. I was excited, and I remember
Speaker 1: specifically taking a lot of time to sort of like
Speaker 1: tiptoe around the mansion and kind of look at the rooms,
Speaker 1: and there was just so much nostalgia there. It was like, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's the Fourier where they have the Fourier chats, and
Speaker 1: of course that's the real ceremony room. There's the couch
Speaker 1: where all the women sit, and that's the table that
Speaker 1: you put the first impression rows on. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's the fireplace where Champagne Gate happened. On PETERC. I
Speaker 1: totally remember, this is it, and it's like I'm going
Speaker 1: around him and checking all the boxes and it was
Speaker 1: you know, that moment standing out in front when Clayton's
Speaker 1: finally arriving in a limo, that like my heart dropped.
Speaker 1: I just thought, how cool is this. It's amazing that
Speaker 1: I'm I'm standing here again virtually. Obviously I was at
Speaker 1: a different house before, but that's the moment that really
Speaker 1: kind of hit me. So you know, people will see that.
Speaker 1: I think on tonight's episode, I mean, you're kind of
Speaker 1: going through all the fields. There's nervous, there's excitement, but
Speaker 1: I think just being there to help out Clayton on
Speaker 1: his journey to find love. For me, being there at
Speaker 1: a place that obviously fields and static having seen so much,
Speaker 1: it was really really cool. Well, and I'm sure you,
Speaker 1: out of anyone, could help him through all of the
Speaker 1: nerves and the excitement because you were a bachelor in
Speaker 1: the past, like you were in his shoes, and so
Speaker 1: going into that knowing that you had that lead role
Speaker 1: in the past. How do you think that helps both
Speaker 1: you and Clayton prepare for the overall season. Yeah, great question.
Speaker 1: I think it helps a lot, I hope. And you know,
Speaker 1: one thing I've been lucky at to do is having
Speaker 1: a chance to watch Tatian Caitlin over the last couple
Speaker 1: of seasons. I thought they did an amazing job, and
Speaker 1: I think what's unique watching them because of course they
Speaker 1: were in that role as well. I think a big
Speaker 1: part of hosting The Bachelor and helping Clayton is being
Speaker 1: empathetic and sympathetic I think to the emotional roller coaster
Speaker 1: that goes on throughout the entire journey. As you know too, Becca,
Speaker 1: like being in that role, there's just nothing you can
Speaker 1: do to prepare yourself for that, and I think it's
Speaker 1: trying to help them navigate all the different feelings they
Speaker 1: have throughout the course of the show, and it's it's
Speaker 1: the tough moments, it's the tough decisions, it's hurting other
Speaker 1: people's feelings and making those types of decisions. It's the
Speaker 1: uncertainty you have when you stop trusting yourself and self
Speaker 1: doubt starts to creep in. And these are obviously things
Speaker 1: that everybody in the world feels at different times of
Speaker 1: their life dating, but when it's in that kind of
Speaker 1: environment and there's more dating multiple women at the same time,
Speaker 1: knowing that there is hopefully a proposal at the end,
Speaker 1: at the end of the road, it can really really
Speaker 1: feel overwhelming. So to me, I think the pressure for
Speaker 1: me really was just, hey, how can I best help
Speaker 1: Clayton find what he wants and what he wants to
Speaker 1: find his love? He wants it so badly, he wants
Speaker 1: to be married, he wants to have kids, and he
Speaker 1: puts a lot of pressure on himself in this situation
Speaker 1: in an environment because he obviously knows this is a
Speaker 1: once in a lifetime opportunity meeting this many incredible women
Speaker 1: that I think people will see tonight. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: people definitely saw you know you and Clayton have a
Speaker 1: great chemistry so far, and I think he's really lucky
Speaker 1: to have him. We're obviously excited to see his journey
Speaker 1: and you join him throughout the season. But for a second,
Speaker 1: let's take it back to two thousand and four, because
Speaker 1: we really want the listeners to get to know you
Speaker 1: and your journey. So how did you become the Bachelor
Speaker 1: because you weren't picked from a pastseason, kind of similar
Speaker 1: to how Clayton was this season. Totally true. I have
Speaker 1: no idea how I was picked, actually, and I think
Speaker 1: because I was one of the first statuetors on the show. Like,
Speaker 1: I think the show was still kind of trying to
Speaker 1: figure itself out in a lot of different ways, if
Speaker 1: that makes any sense at all. It was still reality
Speaker 1: TV back then. This is going to date myself. Reality
Speaker 1: TV back then was still a very new phenomenon, and
Speaker 1: there was like Big Brother and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: The Bachelor and Survivor, Like these were shows that you know,
Speaker 1: I just started kind of creeping up. And so I
Speaker 1: think they wanted an athlete to do it. I'm sure
Speaker 1: they probably interviewed a lot of different athletes in different sports,
Speaker 1: and at the end they picked the Canadian guy who
Speaker 1: was playing to football in New York, and so, like,
Speaker 1: I had no idea what I was getting into. I
Speaker 1: hadn't really watched the show before. I didn't totally get
Speaker 1: what it was or understand it, except I wasn't a
Speaker 1: point in my life that I did want to fall
Speaker 1: in love and I did want to get married, And
Speaker 1: when everything was explained to me, it just seemed like
Speaker 1: obviously a totally unique concept that was at the time
Speaker 1: so far out there it was. It wasn't a part
Speaker 1: of mainstream culture yet like it is now. Um, So
Speaker 1: it really was a leap of faith that I took.
Speaker 1: Um And I feel like I was a guinea pig
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways because I actually actually was
Speaker 1: the first to do a lot of things. I was
Speaker 1: the first bachelor ever to give a first impression rose. Actually, really,
Speaker 1: you are to say the wrong name of a rose.
Speaker 1: Ceremony started to bring this up, that is correct. There
Speaker 1: were a lot of first on my season. Like I
Speaker 1: remember they were like, Hey, so you're going to go
Speaker 1: in and on the very first night and you're just
Speaker 1: gonna like take this rose and just give it to somebody.
Speaker 1: That made a really strong impression on you, and that's
Speaker 1: the first impression roles and just just go for that.
Speaker 1: And it was kind of like, oh okay, we were
Speaker 1: kind of like figuring it out. And then just RNA's
Speaker 1: point a few hours later, I was the first bash
Speaker 1: or to ever I want to say, forget a girl's name,
Speaker 1: but call out the wrong name at a Rose ceremony.
Speaker 1: So how did that happen? Were you looking at the like,
Speaker 1: were you looking at somebody and said the wrong name?
Speaker 1: Or how did this all go down? Becca? It was
Speaker 1: the worst. It was like, so this is this is
Speaker 1: also like and you know, in full disclosure, like the
Speaker 1: Rose ceremonies kind of go early into the night, even
Speaker 1: back then, they would go early in the night. Everyone's tired,
Speaker 1: everyone maybe have had set a cocktail or two. And
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there and I forget, I forget how many
Speaker 1: of the roses I was handing out. It might have
Speaker 1: been like sixteen or maybe it was twenty, and I
Speaker 1: decided I was just going to go for it. I
Speaker 1: wasn't going to like do three names or four names
Speaker 1: and then be like I'll bright back and I'm like
Speaker 1: walk off set come back, and I'm like I'm going
Speaker 1: to do this. I'm going to go sixteen for sixteen
Speaker 1: and I'm going to just run the table. It was
Speaker 1: so aggrest of and like, you know, if you're going
Speaker 1: to you're gonna go big. You might go home, And
Speaker 1: that's kind of what happened. I was just like I
Speaker 1: was cruising, I was in a flow. I was just
Speaker 1: like make an eye contact, like you know they tell
Speaker 1: you to look down and then look down to the boom.
Speaker 1: I was like locked in, there's the name. She walks
Speaker 1: right towards me. We have the moment. It's great. And
Speaker 1: then there was a girl, Karen, who I wanted to
Speaker 1: give the rose to, and I knew. I knew exactly
Speaker 1: who she was, anew what she was wearing. I remember
Speaker 1: everything we had talked about, and I had a thousand
Speaker 1: percent conviction that I was absolutely right. And I did
Speaker 1: the thing where it's like you look down and then
Speaker 1: PAULI or whoever kind of waves at you to like
Speaker 1: give the rose, and I looked up. I'm looking right
Speaker 1: at Karen, and I'm like Katie and row and behold,
Speaker 1: I just from my peripheral vision see a woman walking
Speaker 1: towards me. Of course, there was a Katie on my
Speaker 1: season also who I wasn't going to give a rose
Speaker 1: to the plan that it honestly was. I wasn't going
Speaker 1: to give her one, and so she kind of like
Speaker 1: it was like playing quarterback and getting like blind sides sacked.
Speaker 1: It was especially like you're looking over here and then
Speaker 1: like the guy comes and hits you. That was Katie.
Speaker 1: That's basically what happened. So I learned a very valuable lesson.
Speaker 1: And I would be lying if I told you tonight.
Speaker 1: During Clayton's first row ceremony, I definitely was experiencing some
Speaker 1: PTSD sort of imagine you're kind of in the back room,
Speaker 1: You're like, oh god, I could tell him. I'm like,
Speaker 1: come on, do it, Clayton, say the name. You've got it,
Speaker 1: You've got it, and so oh lots of first I
Speaker 1: get you so much credit for trying to go ball
Speaker 1: to the walls all sixteen in a row, because I mean,
Speaker 1: I the first night, because I remember being like it's
Speaker 1: so overwhelming. There's so many different men names, things happening,
Speaker 1: like there's no way I would have remembered everyone's name, Like,
Speaker 1: there's just no way, because I blacked out. I was
Speaker 1: so nervous so for you to just say effort, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do it. I give you, I give you props.
Speaker 1: One more thing that was a first on your season
Speaker 1: was you were the first to send someone home and
Speaker 1: then have them come back. There was there was a
Speaker 1: lot going on. There was there was women who went home.
Speaker 1: I had a spy also on my show. A lot
Speaker 1: of people forget that one of the women that no
Speaker 1: tell us before I got to watch your season. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's stripping on Hulu yet, thank god. But
Speaker 1: my best friend's wife closing as one of the women,
Speaker 1: and she was living in the house and she was
Speaker 1: getting all the dirt in the scoop for me, and
Speaker 1: so you know, for me, like I went in, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: if I'm going to do this, like I want to
Speaker 1: make sure. That was my way of trying to have
Speaker 1: as much control as I could. How can I find
Speaker 1: a way to make sure these women are here for
Speaker 1: the right reasons are they're playing? And so her name
Speaker 1: was Jenny, and Jenny is the biggest sweetheart. She was
Speaker 1: so brave to do it. And I say brave because
Speaker 1: I don't think Jenny realized like she started becoming friends
Speaker 1: with everyone obviously, and she started developing relationships and there
Speaker 1: was a trust factor there, and there was a moment
Speaker 1: like we kind of kept Jenny around, kept giving a roses,
Speaker 1: kept kept her around, and then it got to a
Speaker 1: point woman, I felt like I had a pretty good handle.
Speaker 1: We finally sent Jenny home, but of course that meant
Speaker 1: Jenny had to come clean right in the house before
Speaker 1: she left. This feels like a movie plot. Show me
Speaker 1: how to this. I mean, where's Jenny today? You mean
Speaker 1: she's still? ABC released the footage. We need to see
Speaker 1: all of Jesse's season. This is good. She was. She
Speaker 1: was such a champion and she she did it for
Speaker 1: me forever indebted to Jenny. Jenny's Jenny's like the best today,
Speaker 1: She's she's obviously, she's married to my best buddy, got
Speaker 1: got five beautiful kids, like they're just She's the best.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was like another thing, like when I
Speaker 1: think back to it, I'm like, we were just you know,
Speaker 1: there were so many different elements to the show, and
Speaker 1: everything was always changing, and like you guy said, like
Speaker 1: the show, the core concept in the principle of it
Speaker 1: is the exact same basically from when I did it.
Speaker 1: Tobecca when you did it to what Clayton's doing. The
Speaker 1: houses are bigger, the budgets bigger, and your destinations like
Speaker 1: I didn't get to travel to all the amazing places
Speaker 1: you guys got to complaint. I think we went to
Speaker 1: like my overnight dates were Washington, DC, Quebec City, and
Speaker 1: like we did go to the Bahamas and we go
Speaker 1: to the Caribbean for one of them. So that was
Speaker 1: that was odd. At least you could travel. Poor Serena
Speaker 1: was stuck in the same resort for two months. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was anemical and for two months that place will
Speaker 1: always all special place in my heart. But Jesse, it
Speaker 1: sounds like you had tons of amazing advice to pass
Speaker 1: along to Clayton. I mean, make sure you say the
Speaker 1: right name, don't go for all sixteen at once, get
Speaker 1: yourself a spy. I mean, was there anything else that
Speaker 1: you passed along to him that you know, future leads
Speaker 1: might want to know, you know, I think for me,
Speaker 1: you know, obviously it was it was the obvious stuff
Speaker 1: to hey, be yourself, be vulnerable, you know, do all
Speaker 1: those things. But there was one thing that I did
Speaker 1: try to tell them at the beginning, and that was
Speaker 1: to not be lazy. And what I mean by that is,
Speaker 1: I think for because I was the bachelor and sort
Speaker 1: of so having kind of lived it, I think sometimes
Speaker 1: as as the lead, you can sort of rest on
Speaker 1: your laurels a little bit. And what I mean by
Speaker 1: that is, you're kind of like, I'm the bachelor, I'm
Speaker 1: the man. All these women are going to have to
Speaker 1: come over here and grab me and talk to me.
Speaker 1: They're going to have to come chase me and earn
Speaker 1: my love for them too. And what I was really
Speaker 1: sort of encouraging to do was to be aggressive, to
Speaker 1: get out and really sort of you know, show show interest,
Speaker 1: because just because you're the bachelor, it does not guarantee
Speaker 1: that anybody needs to follow love with you or will
Speaker 1: fall in love with you. You have to show your
Speaker 1: best self and you really have to make bad effort.
Speaker 1: You really have to step out of your comfort zone
Speaker 1: and do that. Maybe you have to remember, you know,
Speaker 1: these women, a lot of them had never even seen
Speaker 1: Clayton until they got out of the limousine his season
Speaker 1: on Michelle's season that didn't air until after we started
Speaker 1: actually filming, and our season was essentially wrapped, so more
Speaker 1: than ever, you know, It's not like these women had
Speaker 1: seen him on Michelle Michelle season and kind of knew
Speaker 1: all about him. They maybe seen a picture of him
Speaker 1: or something, But like, there's a lot of very authentic
Speaker 1: and real moments tonight when people get out of the limo,
Speaker 1: there's a connection right away, or there's not, and it's
Speaker 1: genuine because they just haven't seen him. So my biggest
Speaker 1: advice to him was, Hey, don't be lazy, you know,
Speaker 1: really try to to be to to show your best
Speaker 1: self and really put your best foot forward in this.
Speaker 1: You have to make an effort. It's I think, so
Speaker 1: so important. I think something Clayton has a really good
Speaker 1: job of doing. I want to ask you this because
Speaker 1: now just going through everything and you bring up Michelle's season,
Speaker 1: he didn't make it to the final weeks. Obviously, he
Speaker 1: didn't go to hometowns, he didn't do the overnights, he
Speaker 1: didn't do the meet the families, so he really, you know,
Speaker 1: only made it so far in Michelle's season and had
Speaker 1: no idea what to expect. So do you feel like,
Speaker 1: obviously we saw you there for him night one, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure you know, as typical host, you're in and
Speaker 1: out and kind of leading the way for him week
Speaker 1: by week. But did you feel like you stepped in
Speaker 1: a bit more for him than we've seen it in
Speaker 1: the past because he didn't know what to expect in
Speaker 1: those big moments, especially when he comes down to the wire. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a great question. You know, it's funny. Part of I
Speaker 1: think the charm, at least for me, for Clayton is
Speaker 1: that he's sort of naive to everything, but it's it's
Speaker 1: authentic and it comes from a good place. Clayton never
Speaker 1: watched the show before he went on Michelle's season, so
Speaker 1: a lot of this you've got to kind of remind
Speaker 1: yourself that a lot of this is still very very
Speaker 1: new for him. So to your point, there are moments
Speaker 1: tonight where you know, I kind of I do have
Speaker 1: to step in and just sort of remind him, Okay,
Speaker 1: here's here's where we are, this is what's happening, here's
Speaker 1: the first impression, Rose, this is what this is all about,
Speaker 1: this is this is how this works and how it's
Speaker 1: going to go. Um. But you know what's really amazing
Speaker 1: is that because Clayton hadn't really watched the show so much,
Speaker 1: he doesn't totally get the rhythm and the flow in
Speaker 1: the eve and the flow. So I think one of
Speaker 1: the most exciting things about this season, I think that
Speaker 1: that Bachelor fans of viewers at all our guest site,
Speaker 1: there are there really are a lot of firsts. I know,
Speaker 1: when we all watch the show in our in our
Speaker 1: individual seasons, there's you know, it can seem sometimes formulaic,
Speaker 1: and there's different beats. The show takes episode to episode,
Speaker 1: and people at home sort of expect, all right, we
Speaker 1: go from this number to this number, and now they're
Speaker 1: going to go travel and the overnight are coming in hometowns,
Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. Um, you know, there's kind of
Speaker 1: this quote unquote unofficial rule book. Clayton is not afraid
Speaker 1: to break rules to find love. And one thing I
Speaker 1: kind of I am constantly reminding him of throughout the
Speaker 1: season is that, really, on the Bachelor, there are no rules, right,
Speaker 1: you can kind of you can kind of do what
Speaker 1: you want in order in order to get to where
Speaker 1: you want to go. Clayton puts so much pressure on
Speaker 1: himself to find love and to get married and to
Speaker 1: have kids. He realizes, like the severity of the moment,
Speaker 1: for lack of a better better term, and Clayton is
Speaker 1: willing to do anything to get there, and I think
Speaker 1: viewers are going to see that. Yeah. I love that
Speaker 1: you mentioned throwing away the rule book or the so
Speaker 1: called playbook with Clayton being somewhat of you know, he's
Speaker 1: a new bachelor, but he wasn't on for an extensive
Speaker 1: amount of time on Michelle season. But I think we
Speaker 1: really saw that in the first episode last night, and
Speaker 1: I think it was really interesting because you know, he
Speaker 1: went to hand out a rose before the night even
Speaker 1: started and then he sent home Claire right away. Is
Speaker 1: there a favorite moment from that first episode where you
Speaker 1: were like, wow, Like, I love this moment. It really
Speaker 1: shows off Clayton and how great of a bachelor he's
Speaker 1: going to because I think you can really feel right
Speaker 1: out of the gate that he wants love and he
Speaker 1: wants children and he is looking for that, and like
Speaker 1: you said, he's willing to do what he's got to do,
Speaker 1: even if that's not the norm for the bachelor to
Speaker 1: find his person. Yeah, it's like, and you're so true.
Speaker 1: It was probably right at the beginning. I think you know,
Speaker 1: we were all sort of reminded of watching him get
Speaker 1: sent home for Michelsea's and when he got really emotional
Speaker 1: reading the letter that the kids had written for him,
Speaker 1: and you get to see it on his face, like
Speaker 1: he wears his emotions pretty hard, and you get to
Speaker 1: see from him how badly he wants it. And right
Speaker 1: out of the gate in the first episode, Sally comes
Speaker 1: to his door at the hotel and she sort of
Speaker 1: delivers the news that she was supposed to get married
Speaker 1: on that night and her she's her heart is sort
Speaker 1: of being torn and she doesn't know what to do,
Speaker 1: and Clayton's very receptive to it, but you know, Clayton
Speaker 1: kind of goes for it. He sort of excuses himself
Speaker 1: from the table. He goes and gets a rose. I
Speaker 1: don't know where he got the rose from. He just
Speaker 1: goes and gets a rose, brings it. He's like, oh,
Speaker 1: down that outside and brings it back in and presents
Speaker 1: the road, offers a rose to her before anybody's even
Speaker 1: been to the mansion, Clayton included. So I think that
Speaker 1: just goes to kind of show you sort of the
Speaker 1: cajones Clayton has, like he's not he's not afraid to
Speaker 1: kind of take risks, fully understanding that he could very
Speaker 1: well get rejected, And I got to be honest in
Speaker 1: that moment watching it lot, I totally thought she would
Speaker 1: accept it. Like, I thought that was such a it
Speaker 1: was such a chivalrous move, if you will, from Clayton
Speaker 1: with really good intentions, Like I think that came across
Speaker 1: right away. So I'd say, for me, I think you
Speaker 1: got to see a lot about who Clayton is in
Speaker 1: that moment of the show. I want to ask you this,
Speaker 1: You got to know Clayn on a whole new level.
Speaker 1: I mean, you went through this entire season with him,
Speaker 1: which is it really bonds people and Serena and I
Speaker 1: have been lucky enough to spend some time with Clayton
Speaker 1: outside of the show, just to catch up see how
Speaker 1: he's doing. And one thing that he has mentioned and
Speaker 1: I hope I don't think he would mind me saying this,
Speaker 1: is he really struggles when there's not structure. When there's
Speaker 1: not you know, he's not in control and being the
Speaker 1: lead of the show, you truly have no control over anything.
Speaker 1: You don't plan your schedule, you don't plan the dates.
Speaker 1: You just kind of have to go with the flow,
Speaker 1: and you're at the whims of the show and the
Speaker 1: women and everything that happens. So do you feel like,
Speaker 1: you know night one aside, because that's it's whole own
Speaker 1: chaotic evening throughout the season, did you feel like there
Speaker 1: was a time where he kindly where he was kind
Speaker 1: of able to shed that lack of control and just
Speaker 1: kind of throw his arms up and say, you know,
Speaker 1: what will be, will be, and I'm just going to
Speaker 1: go with this where he could finally really enjoy and
Speaker 1: embrace what he was doing. Definitely, and I think you
Speaker 1: hit it right on the head first off. For all
Speaker 1: those former football players, like we are creatures of habit
Speaker 1: for sure. We're used to waking up at a certain hour,
Speaker 1: working out at a certain hour. We know exactly what
Speaker 1: we're going to eat pregame, we know what happens for
Speaker 1: the national anthem before the game, where you stand, you
Speaker 1: play the game, you go home, you do your media,
Speaker 1: and you just repeat every single week. So for Clayton
Speaker 1: and his whole background, this was very unique to your point,
Speaker 1: and it was very difficult for him, I think early on,
Speaker 1: just like it was for myself and maybe for you too.
Speaker 1: During your experience. You definitely do see as the season progresses,
Speaker 1: Clayton kind of starts to get a handle of it.
Speaker 1: And again, you know, from never having watched the show
Speaker 1: very much at the beginning, so much of it is
Speaker 1: new and fresh, and the situation's group dates. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's literally got a head on his swol. When he
Speaker 1: was looking around, he doesn't know which ways of which,
Speaker 1: I mean, like like all of us did. He definitely
Speaker 1: starts to kind of get a grasp in a handle,
Speaker 1: and you can really sort of see the confidence and
Speaker 1: you can see kind of his personality I think, really
Speaker 1: sort of shine in those moments when he starts to
Speaker 1: sort of figure it out. Because you're right, I don't
Speaker 1: think anybody's ever just walked into that mansion night one
Speaker 1: and been like, I know exactly what I'm doing. This
Speaker 1: is a walking apart thirty women, let's go. It's like
Speaker 1: he you know, it was it was quite being honest
Speaker 1: as a host, like I was kind of feeling the
Speaker 1: same thing too. I've never hosted the show, I'd never
Speaker 1: been in the mansion, so really, like you know, we
Speaker 1: talk about it outside the house on that first episode,
Speaker 1: we're both really nervous going into it. We're both we're
Speaker 1: both kind of figuring it out. So it was nice.
Speaker 1: It wasn't just nice for him to have me, it
Speaker 1: was nice for me to have him too, because we
Speaker 1: did have a lot of discussion and conversations about like this,
Speaker 1: this is crazy, like this is unbelievable, this is wild,
Speaker 1: and we're just you know, as we're kind of going
Speaker 1: through it and trying to help each other. So it
Speaker 1: was that that was definitely unique, very nice. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think anyone. Yeah, I don't think anyone can walk
Speaker 1: into any role on this show and feel like they
Speaker 1: know exactly what's going on. I mean, it is so unique.
Speaker 1: It is so just different than anything. So I think
Speaker 1: you guys being able to kind of support each other
Speaker 1: through it, and especially with you having the experience, was
Speaker 1: probably a definitely a bonding moment. But I know when
Speaker 1: I met Clayton, what surprised me about him was he
Speaker 1: so comfortable in his own skin. So as much as
Speaker 1: like I'm sure the chaos kind of threw him for
Speaker 1: a loop, he seems like someone who really knows who
Speaker 1: he is and is that's going to come across and
Speaker 1: I feel like he's going to rest in that. Was
Speaker 1: there anything about Clayton meeting him? Because I didn't you know,
Speaker 1: if you watched michelseason, there wasn't much to go off of,
Speaker 1: but meeting him, was there anything that you're like, wow,
Speaker 1: like this really surprises me about this guy, and I
Speaker 1: think it's going to make him a really good bachelor. Yeah.
Speaker 1: One of the things I really appreciate about Clayton is
Speaker 1: that if he needs help, he's not afraid to ask
Speaker 1: for it, which for a guy, especially a former football player,
Speaker 1: that's kind of unique, Like we're always sort of taught
Speaker 1: to kind of just figure it out on your own
Speaker 1: and just be alpha, like figure this out. You know,
Speaker 1: Clayton had a lot of questions coming into this and
Speaker 1: he didn't always have the answers and didn't know And
Speaker 1: one of the things as a host that I really
Speaker 1: wanted to be careful with with him is, first off,
Speaker 1: it's not about me or my experiences, and I didn't
Speaker 1: want to be the host that was like, well on
Speaker 1: my season I said this, or on my season I
Speaker 1: would do this if that ever happened. I told him
Speaker 1: right from the get go, Hey, if you have questions,
Speaker 1: I'm happy to try to help you out, but I'm
Speaker 1: not going to just always kind of be around you.
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of it, and kind of Tebecca's point,
Speaker 1: part of the magic of this is you kind of
Speaker 1: have to figure it out for yourself, and then that
Speaker 1: really is the best, I think advice, because all of
Speaker 1: our journeys are so different. I mean, his season isn't
Speaker 1: going to resemble mine at all, or Peter's, or Colton's
Speaker 1: or Matt's, Serena, yours, Becca, yours, nobody. I mean, we
Speaker 1: all have our own path that we're going to take.
Speaker 1: We're all different and unique people. So I really thought
Speaker 1: it was it was wholesome. I thought it was really
Speaker 1: refreshing to find out Clayton had no problem at any
Speaker 1: point pulling me aside and being like, Hey, I don't
Speaker 1: know what to do. Has this ever happened? Can I
Speaker 1: do this? You know? What do you think about this?
Speaker 1: You know, I know it's not easy, especially for a
Speaker 1: lot of men today to do that, and certainly one
Speaker 1: in that role because you're the bachelor, You're supposed to
Speaker 1: have all the answers, you're the guy, and he's really
Speaker 1: he's very sincere and very sweet that way, and I
Speaker 1: thought that was That was probably the thing Serena that
Speaker 1: caught me off guard, but probably the thing I was
Speaker 1: the most impressed about as well. That's great. Yeah, to
Speaker 1: your point too. I mean there's only so much you
Speaker 1: can see and get to know from somebody through the
Speaker 1: TV screen, but just spending time with him, he genuinely
Speaker 1: is just a good kind man. Like he is a
Speaker 1: very very kind soul, and that's something that I'm sure
Speaker 1: we'll come across and viewers will get to know more.
Speaker 1: But he's a good guy just looking for love and
Speaker 1: it's um, it's very endearing. I would say, even just
Speaker 1: watching Night one and you two together, it's endearing to
Speaker 1: see him not quite know what to do or how
Speaker 1: this is going to be, or what this entire journey
Speaker 1: will look like, but to just go with it. So
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see both of you along the way.
Speaker 1: One last question before we play a game, and that
Speaker 1: is we know that there's so much to come, and
Speaker 1: we also know that there's a lot you cannot give away.
Speaker 1: So if you could give us three adjectives to describe
Speaker 1: Clayton's season so far or I just guess of what
Speaker 1: will be? What would what would those three words be? Wow?
Speaker 1: Three great adjectives. I would say. First, I would say mama,
Speaker 1: and I would say love or journey, And I know
Speaker 1: those are sort of like taglines for this franchise and
Speaker 1: the show, But Clayton's story really is a beautiful story
Speaker 1: of love and it's it's not the path that everybody
Speaker 1: might expect when they turn on the Batchelor episode one.
Speaker 1: This sort of takes a very very different you know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that happened that it kind
Speaker 1: of he gets off the main path sometimes and does
Speaker 1: it and does it knowingly and sometimes unknowingly. But it's
Speaker 1: because of that. There's a lot of drama and there's
Speaker 1: a lot of first but I think that's that's his
Speaker 1: authentic path to finding love, and I think that's really
Speaker 1: going to come across as people continue to watch the season.
Speaker 1: Oh right, I can't wait, Serene. Are you excited? I
Speaker 1: am so excited. Um. Okay, Well, we love our games
Speaker 1: a batch are happy hour, So we are going to
Speaker 1: do a little rapid fire to get to know Jesse
Speaker 1: Palmer more So, basically, we are just going to throw
Speaker 1: some rapid for our questions at you and you just
Speaker 1: answer what comes to top of mind right away. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: do you want to kick it off? Sure? All right, Jesse,
Speaker 1: are you ready born, ready surrend. All right, here we go,
Speaker 1: starting off with number one. Where are you from? Nipean, Ontario?
Speaker 1: It was like everyone's like Nippean. It's like basically Ottawa,
Speaker 1: but it's like a little suburb kind of just outside
Speaker 1: of Ottawa. I mean, hard hardcore Ottawans. We call them Ottawans.
Speaker 1: They'll they'll know. But yeah, the nation's capital, the great,
Speaker 1: the great, great nation, beautiful Ottawa is a beautiful city.
Speaker 1: The Republic of Canada. Yeah, the Republic of Canada. All right,
Speaker 1: well you kind of answered this one. But before you
Speaker 1: were bachelor, what was your job? I was a quarterback
Speaker 1: in the National Football the Lague for the New York Giants.
Speaker 1: My dreams job. Did you know Michael Strahan were teammates
Speaker 1: together for almost five years, Jesse, Michael Straighthand is my
Speaker 1: biggest crush? Is he really? Oh? Yeah? I met him
Speaker 1: and I don't really get nervous when I meet people.
Speaker 1: And I met Michael a couple of times, and I
Speaker 1: can't talk. Thomas, don't listen to this part of the
Speaker 1: Thomas No, it's so funny. It's so funny. Michael Stranghand
Speaker 1: is your biggest crush? And Michael straighthand has crushed me. Wow,
Speaker 1: I wish he crushed while you lucky lucky man. Damn,
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a different scenario. Yes, I'm
Speaker 1: also a very big fan of straight fifty shades of
Speaker 1: strang string man. I like that. That can be the
Speaker 1: new line. Okay, three, Moving moving away from football and
Speaker 1: the wonderful Michael, strive for a second. What is your
Speaker 1: favorite for other than football? Right now, it's tennis. My
Speaker 1: wife Emily and I are playing a ton of tennis.
Speaker 1: I've traveled the world. I've been to the French Jope
Speaker 1: and I've been to Wimbledon, US Open. I I've been
Speaker 1: to I've watched tournaments in Rio de Janeiro. I love tennis,
Speaker 1: and it's actually a great thing you can do as
Speaker 1: a couple. Joe and I want to take lessons together.
Speaker 1: Actually we said the same thing. Really, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: let's like its couples. Yes, tournaments. Yeah, yeah, a couple's
Speaker 1: tournament in mixed doubles. It'll be amazing. Love a bachelor,
Speaker 1: This could be a new show. We'll stream it on
Speaker 1: a tournament Bachelor tennis tournament. Okay, tennis, I love it.
Speaker 1: But before we start that, Jesse, can you train just
Speaker 1: us and no one else so we have a little
Speaker 1: advantage of a leg up you guys. You guys are
Speaker 1: acting like, what makes you say I'm good at tennis?
Speaker 1: Fair point? Yes exactly, She would say the same thing.
Speaker 1: She's definitely the more athletically two of us. All right,
Speaker 1: do you and Emily have any pets? We do. We
Speaker 1: have a mini ausy doodle. Her name's Lou. She is
Speaker 1: our world. She's a COVID dog. We got it from
Speaker 1: Salt Lake City, Utah, and she is our joy. She
Speaker 1: really is. She's so sweet, she's so smart, sometimes too smart,
Speaker 1: but she's been She's a little cuddle bunny. She's just
Speaker 1: the bests over here. Bring me to California. Next time
Speaker 1: you start filming at the mansion. I'll be the official
Speaker 1: pet sitter. Okay, all right, Jesse. The people want to
Speaker 1: know what is your favorite? She DAMEO, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: burger and uh probably chicken wings, pizza burger, pizza burger.
Speaker 1: Does that? Have you guys ever had a pizzaburgh. It's
Speaker 1: kind of a New Jersey diner thing. So, like, you know,
Speaker 1: playing for the Giants, I was living in hobo to
Speaker 1: New Jersey. There was this legendary old diner called the
Speaker 1: Baldu Diner. It was like down the street and essentially
Speaker 1: a pizza burger, essentially a burger and you just take
Speaker 1: Marinar sauce and you just kind of smuggle there Marin.
Speaker 1: Then you put on Oh that guy, it's a life.
Speaker 1: It's just an onion rings kind of guy. Fries regular
Speaker 1: or sweet potato regular, and tons of tabasco. Oh, I
Speaker 1: love spicy food. Indian food is my favorite food in
Speaker 1: the world. So like growing up in Canada and screen
Speaker 1: a little will attest to this. We have some of
Speaker 1: the best food in the world, but Indian food. Like
Speaker 1: my best friends growing up are Indian and used always
Speaker 1: get to gold and play at their house growing up,
Speaker 1: and so like spice, so tabasco on everything, Tabasco on
Speaker 1: the burger, on the chicken wings, on my cheerios. That Jesse,
Speaker 1: my mom is Indians. You have to come homever for
Speaker 1: some some homemade Indian food. Yes, I'm in. I'm so
Speaker 1: damn I'm inviting myself to things. That guy. You're always
Speaker 1: all right, Jesse. What is your favorite city in the world?
Speaker 1: Paris for France, and that's good food there too, also
Speaker 1: great food there. Yes, that's Emily and I try to go.
Speaker 1: We try to go once a year. Um, we love it.
Speaker 1: I've always said it's like my dream one day like
Speaker 1: to have like a an apartment somewhere and like one
Speaker 1: of the small uh in BEPI. So that would be
Speaker 1: that would be really great. I love that, such a
Speaker 1: romantic city. Yes, I have been absolutely dying to go there.
Speaker 1: I've we've been watching Emily in Paris and it's just
Speaker 1: giving me soul. It's a good one. Okay. Do you
Speaker 1: prefer watching sports or playing sports? I prefer playing sports
Speaker 1: until tackling is involved, and then I totally enjoy watching. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like for my job. Now. It's like I'm, you know,
Speaker 1: like I met the Rose Bowl a couple of days ago,
Speaker 1: watching Ohio State and Utah play, and I'm watching all
Speaker 1: these guys run into each other from like feet away
Speaker 1: from them, and I'm like, why did I ever want
Speaker 1: to did this? Why what was I thinking? This is crazy?
Speaker 1: My body feels so much much better now waking up
Speaker 1: hosting The Bachelor versus when I was trying quarterback getting
Speaker 1: chased way way less less stress on the body at
Speaker 1: least so yes, I would say kind of depends in
Speaker 1: the situation, but if tackling is evolved, I'd rather just
Speaker 1: be on the couch. Yeah, I don't blame you, all right,
Speaker 1: this is a good one. Do you have any guilty pleasures? Oh,
Speaker 1: I define guilty. Um a guilty besides the Bachelor, besides
Speaker 1: the um. Yeah, guilty pleasures give me like a theme
Speaker 1: so I can, like, I just want to know, like
Speaker 1: where I'm allowed to go on there? Do you like
Speaker 1: like trashy romance novels, Hallmark movies? Um? Okay, well, well
Speaker 1: Serena just mentioned it. I actually am watching. I didn't
Speaker 1: have watched the whole Emily in Paris it's good. So
Speaker 1: it's so good it is, Yeah, for sure. I mean
Speaker 1: like through COVID it was obviously be a lot of
Speaker 1: different shows, but I feel like Emily in Paris with
Speaker 1: Me has actually kind of been under the radar. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't share that with too many of my my guy friends.
Speaker 1: But it's like, but like in the safety of this place,
Speaker 1: you get addicted. It really sucks you in. It totally does.
Speaker 1: And each episode is so short that it's it's an easy,
Speaker 1: happy watch. It's just it's a feel good show totally.
Speaker 1: It's a dose Paris and bad fashion. Yeah, very interesting fashion.
Speaker 1: You get the beautiful views, you get beautiful men. It's
Speaker 1: it's a good show. And I will say this new season, Okay,
Speaker 1: don't give anything away because I'm only halfway done. But
Speaker 1: her friend is such a good singer, so I love
Speaker 1: that they have like the musical in it too. Yeh,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of performance. Sometimes I feel like, maybe
Speaker 1: too much performance. I think they can kind of like
Speaker 1: it's a full song in every episode for the whole season.
Speaker 1: She had to be contractual. Yeah, all right, So we
Speaker 1: just had Christmas. We had New Year's Eve. We had
Speaker 1: a lot of binging Emily in Paris. What is your
Speaker 1: favorite holiday, Jesse? Are you a Christmas guy? Are you
Speaker 1: an Easter dude? I am a Halloween guy? No way.
Speaker 1: I like that is the most uncommon favorite holiday. It's true,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people randomly hate Halloween, which I
Speaker 1: cannot understand. I love getting dressed up. I love it
Speaker 1: and I always partake. And if if anybody hasn't done this,
Speaker 1: New York City has got to be the greatest Halloween
Speaker 1: city in the entire world. Everybody participates. I've been dressed
Speaker 1: as we've got to from Zoolander on a subway, on
Speaker 1: a subway, like holding the thing I got Halloween costume. Yes,
Speaker 1: and you always remember what it is to everyone right
Speaker 1: away to be able to tell you what was my
Speaker 1: best costume ever? We got to from Zoololander was by
Speaker 1: far mind and just like being on the subway and
Speaker 1: everyone is in costume, Oh yeah, it's like you don't
Speaker 1: kind of feel like I gotta like tuck myself into
Speaker 1: back of this. Everyone's gonna think I look ridiculous. Everyone
Speaker 1: plays alone. It's like, if you're not, you wouldn't even
Speaker 1: need to leave. That's where I would go and just
Speaker 1: spend my entire night eating candy in the corner of
Speaker 1: the subway. Exactly what were you this year? I couldn't
Speaker 1: do it this year because I was working. I was
Speaker 1: just I was. I was. I was a sports broadcaster.
Speaker 1: Slash posted Okay, see you think I wore this jacket?
Speaker 1: Yeah I was. I was like too fast, it's cooled enough, Jesse.
Speaker 1: It has been such a blast having you. I'm so
Speaker 1: glad that we had you, not only to kick off
Speaker 1: Clayton's season, but to kick off the first episode of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. Thank you so much for joining us, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Serena beat, thank you so much. Thank you. We'll see
Speaker 1: you soon, hopefully we'll see Yeah, thank you, guys. I
Speaker 1: really really enjoyed him. I really like him too, And
Speaker 1: after watching him on the episode and then also talking
Speaker 1: to him, I just think he is such a wonderful
Speaker 1: fit as the host this season. I'm really excited to
Speaker 1: watch him. I am too, And I will say because
Speaker 1: you know, you and I are both in touch with
Speaker 1: a lot of the team that still works on the show,
Speaker 1: and everybody that I've talked to has nothing but such nice,
Speaker 1: incredible things to say about him. I think he really
Speaker 1: just went above and beyond, went out of his way
Speaker 1: to get to know everyone, to really spend time with
Speaker 1: Clayton and also the crew, which I think is really important,
Speaker 1: especially when you're spending so much time together. So I
Speaker 1: always like having guests on when you know you hear
Speaker 1: great things about them, but then you are able to
Speaker 1: sit and talk with them for a while and get
Speaker 1: to know them on a deeper level, and it's nice
Speaker 1: when you just have good, genuine people. Definitely, he was
Speaker 1: so easy to talk to and I think that he
Speaker 1: gave a lot of really great insight into who Clayton
Speaker 1: is and kind of what we can expect from this season,
Speaker 1: and it just has made me that much more excited
Speaker 1: to watch. I mean, drama love for what else can
Speaker 1: you ask for? First, I am really excited about the
Speaker 1: first this season. I think it's always interesting to watch
Speaker 1: when there's a different kind of format or dynamic or
Speaker 1: the lead to something different. I think we're going to
Speaker 1: see a lot of that from Clayton. Based on what
Speaker 1: Jesse said today, Yeah, yeah, I think he's really going
Speaker 1: to make this his own as every lead does. As
Speaker 1: Jesse said, nothing, not one season looks like the past.
Speaker 1: But I really think Clayton will have quite the ride
Speaker 1: and really make this his own, his own special journey.
Speaker 1: And you know, all I can hope is that he
Speaker 1: finds love because he is a good dude, so I
Speaker 1: know how bad he wants that. So we will just
Speaker 1: have to wait and see. But thank you to all
Speaker 1: of our Bachelor Happy Hour listeners for tuning in, and
Speaker 1: a huge thank you to Jesse for being here. It
Speaker 1: sounds like it is going to be quite this season,
Speaker 1: so I can't wait to watch a week by week,
Speaker 1: so make sure you tune into Bachelor Happy Hour every
Speaker 1: week after Clayton's episodes because it's going to be one
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Speaker 1: so much everyone, Becca, thank you for having me this week.
Speaker 1: It was so much fun and can't wait to tune
Speaker 1: in next week. Thanks Serena, love you, Take care me
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