1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: Hi everyone, it's Sophia Welcome to Work in Progress. 2 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 2: Hello. 3 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 3: Hello, I'm Will Pearson, president of iHeart podcast Incredibly excited 4 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 3: to be here for a live podcast with our very 5 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 3: own Sophia Bush for an episode of Work in Progress. 6 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: Incredibly excited. 7 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 3: This is brought to you by us here at iHeart 8 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 3: Podcasts and our friends from Miracle Grow. Let's give it 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 3: up to Miracle Grow for making tonight possible. And I'm 10 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 3: really excited for tonight's guest. I have a brand new 11 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 3: best friend in the whole wide world. Like I'm not kidding, 12 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 3: and you will also tonight after this. Christopher Griffin, also 13 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 3: known as the Plant Queen, has a huge following that 14 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 3: he is brought to understand plant care and how to 15 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 3: do that with confidence and joy, something that we all 16 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 3: need to learn. It's also the author of a book 17 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 3: that is one of my favorite book covers. You should 18 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 3: check this out. 19 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: I love the name of it. 20 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 3: It's called You Grow Girl, Plant Queen's lush Guide to 21 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 3: Growing your Garden. So, without further ado, let me welcome 22 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 3: Sophia and Christopher. 23 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: Come on up. 24 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: Hi everyone, you all look so cute. You looks so cute, guys. 25 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: I'm so happy to be here. Anyone who knows me, 26 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: like some of my dearest in the front, know that 27 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 1: I sort of still can't believe, which I know is crazy. 28 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: I started this podcast in twenty nineteen, like, girl, get 29 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: over it, you have one. But I still kind of 30 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: can't believe that this is my job because basically I 31 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: just bamboozled everyone into letting me work doing the thing 32 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: I like to do the most, which is meet fabulous 33 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: people and ask them interesting questions. So I owe a 34 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: very big thank you to my team at iHeart for 35 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: continuing to let me nerd out in literally every department, 36 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 1: including plants. It's kind of the privilege of my life. 37 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: And I'm really really thrilled that we are launching a 38 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: new partnership with Miracle Grow. I sort of feel like 39 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: at this point, like branded content partnerships, everyone's just like 40 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: kill me now, And then sometimes they happen in ways 41 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: that you're like, well that was great. Also, this is chic. 42 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, where did these plants come from? I'm kidding. 43 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: I met the team upstairs. They're unbelievable. But really we're 44 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: very lucky to kind of be in this moment where 45 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: I think the overwhelm of content in a way has 46 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: made people really want to make sure they actually vibe 47 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: and then nights like tonight get to happen. So thank 48 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: you all for letting me pretend this is work. What 49 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: like it's hard. One of the things that you have inspired. 50 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 1: I promise I'm gonna ask you questions soon. I'm long 51 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: winded people. Plus I have to tell you guys. Christopher 52 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: and I met in my backyard in twenty twenty two 53 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: and within five minutes, the whole video team that it 54 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: come was like, could you too shut up? Like we 55 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: were just on one truly one of my favorite souls. 56 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 1: But one of the things that you do that particularly well, 57 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: that I particularly love is that you remind people that 58 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 1: you don't need like a massive outdoor space. You can 59 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: start with a few square feet, oh square foot if 60 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: you will. And I don't know if you all are 61 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: like me, but sometimes I get lost in the rabbit 62 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: hole of Pinterest and the el decor world and fabulous goals. 63 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: But I think like, unless I have Martha Stewart's Bedford estate, 64 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: I can't possibly have a garden. And that is not 65 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: at current my reality. Though I love her and your 66 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: work and our wonderful sponsors tonight. Really, I think do 67 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: such a good job at reminding people, well, you can 68 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: start small, you can experiment, you can learn your green thumb. 69 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: If you have a plant diet, it's not your fault. 70 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: Maybe they just said that to me, but really you can. 71 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: You can cultivate a love of a hobby the way 72 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: you can cultivate a garden. So thank you to Miracle 73 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: Grow for reminding me I don't have to be Martha 74 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: and all of you can go to miracle grow dot 75 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: com to check out all of their very easy to 76 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: use products. We'll talk about those later, but start a 77 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: growth journey please. It really is great. Now now I'm 78 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: going to just ask you all the things you've heard. 79 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: Christopher is an incredible educator, author, add to Karte, Take 80 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: out your Phones, ad to Kart. Plant Queen is one 81 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: of my favorite accounts to follow on Instagram, and one 82 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: of the things that sort of gets me is that 83 00:04:55,160 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: you bring unbridled joys exactly who you are are to 84 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: the world, which knocked my socks off half a decade ago, 85 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 1: but especially in a moment I think where individualism, queer joy, 86 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 1: black boy joy is not exactly being lauded in the 87 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: way it should. You are like, honey, you can't stop me. 88 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: And so I'm really curious because you talk a lot 89 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: about who you are, who you've always been. You give 90 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: joy as resistance and fuel and this sort of relentless 91 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: happiness in a way that I think feeds everyone who 92 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: follows you. And I wonder if you got to interact 93 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: with the little black boy you used to be, like 94 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: Christopher at eight years old today, Like, if he were 95 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: in the garden, would you see yourself in him? Do 96 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: you think he would be astounded by your life that's 97 00:05:59,560 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: now his? 98 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 2: Yes, I'll probably like hey girl, he played Hey Girl. 99 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: I actually had some home videos digitized because I was 100 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 2: I'm in the process of writing a children's book and 101 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 2: so I friends, yes I haven't made that announcement, but yes, 102 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 2: I'm in the process of working on it. And my 103 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 2: editor really challenged me to go into my childhood, and 104 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: so I worked with my dad. My dad was always 105 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: documenting everything camcorder, just place it and kind of just 106 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 2: watch the family. And I'm really grateful that he did that. 107 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: And I was a flamboyant little queen. I was like, damn, 108 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 2: like it was beautiful to watch me just exist unapologetically 109 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 2: as my flamboyant self. Obviously I didn't have the term 110 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 2: to you know, define myself, but my family allowed me 111 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 2: space to explore and be playful and to just show 112 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 2: up in the ways that I wanted to. And so 113 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 2: I think we would be like best friends. Like I 114 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: really I looked at you know, those videos, and I 115 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 2: was like, oh, my goodness, Like I'm still the same person, 116 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 2: like still in front of the camera, still being playful, 117 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: still being joyful, still being flamboyant. So yeah, I think 118 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: we would be really good friends. And I think my 119 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 2: younger self we'd be like, yeah, this makes sense, Like 120 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 2: it makes a lot of sense. 121 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: I love that in any of the videos were you 122 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: were you out in nature a lot. 123 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 2: We did a lot of family trips, and so somewhere 124 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 2: of us in the park we lived. I grew up 125 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 2: in Philadelphia, and so some of the videos were like 126 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 2: on this large porch of the apartment building that we 127 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: lived in, and there were gardens in front of the 128 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: apartment fielding. I actually went back and took photos with 129 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 2: my dad at the apartment a few years ago, and 130 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 2: it was really beautiful. But yeah, I was always outside 131 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 2: just like frolicking around, Go frolic. We need the frolic more. 132 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: Everybody needs to get outside literally, go touch grass please please. 133 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 2: And I mean we're in New York City and I 134 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 2: do a lot of partnerships with a lot of the 135 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: green spaces here. So how many folks have heard of 136 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 2: the New York Restoration Project? Fuck you all right, there's 137 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 2: not enough hands raised? Look them up and YRP. They 138 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: stew it over fifty community gardens here called the Five Boroughs, 139 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 2: and they're doing such amazing work to make sure that 140 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 2: the city remains green. I've done work with Prospect Park, 141 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 2: Central Park, Botanic Garden, New York Botannic Garden. There are 142 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 2: a lot of green gyms here, and so I think 143 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 2: it's important that folks understand that we all have a 144 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 2: role to play. Go volunteer, go visit theth parks, lay 145 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 2: in the grass. It's really important we do. 146 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm curious, you know, because you mentioned growing up 147 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: in Philly, which is an iconic city much like New York. 148 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 1: Where did your connection to nature really start? Was it 149 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: in the apartment garden or was there somewhere in Philly 150 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: that you would go and you went, oh, this is 151 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: for me. 152 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: My grandmother Andrew Griffin, she was the original plant queen. 153 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 2: She's the original og plant queen. She grew up in Clayton, Georgia, 154 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 2: and my great grandmother's farm, and the land sheltered them, 155 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 2: it fed them. They had a deep appreciation for the land. 156 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 2: And so when she decided to bring my mother and 157 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: my uncle up to Philadelphia at the single mom there 158 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 2: was a program back in the day where you could 159 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 2: buy like a rundown house for one dollar. I wish 160 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 2: that program exifted today, Please bring it back. And so 161 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 2: she brought the house. He bought the house, and she 162 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 2: curated a garden for her th well, and it was 163 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 2: a small, little garden, nothing big. And when I was 164 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 2: brought into the world, I was always like a flamboyant person, right, 165 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 2: So even from a young age, I think my grandmother 166 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 2: clock like a little sugar in his teeth. He had 167 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 2: a lot of sugar. Baby, there was a lot of sugar. Honeys. Hello, Hello. 168 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 2: And so I think my grandmother understood that the world 169 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 2: would not yet appreciate my uniqueness, my flair. And you know, 170 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 2: she being a single black mother, she had to create 171 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 2: spaces for her own joy. And she did that through gardening, 172 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 2: and she's like, you know what, I think Christopher's probably 173 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 2: going to have to make sure, like I want Christopher 174 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 2: to understand that he is the agent and author of 175 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 2: his own joy. And so she kind of showcased to 176 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 2: me that gardening was the way that she found joy 177 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 2: and created joy for herself. And so that's how I 178 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: was introduced to plant in nature as a pathway to joy, 179 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 2: as a pathway to healing and is I mean, it's 180 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 2: grown into such a beautiful journey. So that's when it 181 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 2: started very young age, not for only the sake of 182 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 2: understanding that we all have a role to play and 183 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 2: tending to the land, but that also it can be 184 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 2: a healing and joyful relationship. 185 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 1: That's beautiful. Did you choose plant Queen to honor Andrea 186 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: or did it come from somewhere else as a nickname? 187 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, so everybody know abba obviously come on now, like 188 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 2: come on, Dancing Queen is like one of my favorite songs. 189 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 2: And so I don't think I ever said this out loud. 190 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 2: The original name for the account was going to be 191 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 2: pretty plant please. I don't know where that came from 192 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 2: out like a literation. I'm an educator. I'm a sucker 193 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 2: for those things. And I was like, okay, pretty plant, please. 194 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 2: And then as I was saying that, I was the thing, 195 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 2: dance and Queen came on. I was like dancing Queen 196 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 2: a plant, queen flank Queen, but with a kW And 197 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: so that's how I was born. 198 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:17,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, Abba, I love it. I love it. So can 199 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: you tell me about the first plant you bought? Before there? 200 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: I mean, if you remember before there was there ever 201 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: a moment where there were no plants in the house. 202 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 2: In my apartment, like in your. 203 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 1: First my individual home. 204 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 2: As you bought big girl apartment, I did not have plants. 205 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't, oh child. I think it was 206 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 2: like maybe like three years of living in New York. 207 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: I had moved here for grad school. You know, I 208 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 2: was my head was elsewhere. I was like, I got 209 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 2: to build a social life and all that. Yeah, and 210 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 2: once I got you know too. And after I had 211 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 2: graduated grad school, I moved to a new apartment and 212 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 2: it was south facing windows and the walls were just 213 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 2: so bare, and I was like, I gotta have some 214 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 2: type of life in here. And I was like, I've 215 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 2: graduated grad school. I'm no longer a student like I 216 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 2: got to find my next journey, and so I was like, Okay, 217 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 2: I think it's time to invest in plants. And I 218 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 2: think buying a plant was a very serious endeavor for 219 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 2: me because I knew what it did. It was just 220 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 2: a special relationship, right. I knew that I wanted to 221 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 2: make sure I was honoring my grandmother's memory by making 222 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 2: sure I had time to actually care for the plant. 223 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 2: When I was in grad school, I wouldn't be able 224 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 2: to care for the plant, and so I bought a 225 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 2: Pothos Marble Queen Pothos. I still have that plant today. 226 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 2: I bought that eleven years ago. She's still with me. 227 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 2: She's still with me. I propagated. My friend Meredith has 228 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 2: a cutting of the plant. We've been friends for over 229 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 2: a decade now, so yeah, I've propagated her and now 230 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: all my friends have like little cuttings that original plant 231 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 2: to kind of just spark yes journey. 232 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: That's so beautiful. I also shan't admit how many plants 233 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: I've bought and that have not survived in the last 234 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: eleven years. We don't need to talk about it. It happen. 235 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 2: It happened to. 236 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: Say that but our original Girly is still with us. 237 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 2: She's still here. 238 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: I will say I did because la is a good 239 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: climate for propagating a succulent, as we discussed in the 240 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: backyard in twenty twenty two, and you gave me a 241 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: few great tips. And if I do say so myself, 242 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: I propagated a few plants. Come on now, and I 243 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: can't explain to you how cool I felt like taking 244 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: home a chic little plant to my mom and taking 245 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: a cute little plant to one of my girlfriends for 246 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: a housewarming party. And they felt particularly great to me 247 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: because I live in a house that was lived in 248 00:14:53,520 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: previously by this fabular, fabular, fabulous. I'm fine. Older woman 249 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: named Annette. I knew her until she passed at ninety two. 250 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: She was so cool, and she used to tell me 251 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: that her and her husband would like get in a 252 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: convertible and go out to Palm Springs and watch Frank 253 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: Sinatra play jazz. And she was like, we got drunk 254 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: once and I cut some of his aloe plants in 255 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: his backyard and that's where these came from. And I 256 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: was like, you're so cool. So actually what I did 257 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: was I gave people propagated cuttings from Frank Sinatra stolen plants. 258 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: Thank you to Annette. She was my plant queen. And 259 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: it's like, weirdly, it's not an easy thing to keep 260 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: it alive, care for it, grow it, multiply it. But 261 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: it's like the simplest and most meaningful thing I think 262 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: to share with other people. Maybe because it's alive, Maybe 263 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: because if you're giving a friend or a family member 264 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: a piece of something you grew like, you really had 265 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: to love it enough to get it to be in 266 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: the place where you could share it with someone else. 267 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: Do you think that's true? Is it an energetic thing? 268 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 2: I think yes, it's definitely an energetic thing. I think 269 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 2: there is, you know, I think the reason that I 270 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 2: chose to be an educator, I spent over a decade 271 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 2: working as a college counselor, and I worked in higher education, 272 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 2: then I worked in tech. Oh child, I'm all in 273 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 2: very like you know, guidance counselor y roles, right, and 274 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 2: so you know, I feel like I've always had a 275 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 2: lot of love to give, right, And I think the 276 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 2: beautiful thing about when you're caring for a plant, right, 277 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 2: is that there's just this interaction where you're giving something 278 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 2: love and care and the response you would hope is growth, right. 279 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 2: And so it's just a very simple interaction that I 280 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 2: think allows folks to practice what we all need to 281 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 2: be better at caring for ourselves and caring for each other. Right. 282 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 2: And so I now have over two hundred plants in 283 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 2: my Brooklyn apartment and they're all doing really lovingly. And 284 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 2: people will be like, girl, like, how the hell you water? 285 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 2: I don't know. We can curse, but how in the 286 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 2: world do you water? Turn on your plants, and it's 287 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. It's a little party. I brew some tea, 288 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 2: I put on some music. Sometimes I'll call a friend. 289 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 2: And I've found that my plants are a great I 290 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 2: call them my green Girls. I'm a big Golden Girls fan. Here, 291 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 2: I'm a Green Girls. They are great accountability partners. Right. 292 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 2: There's something that I need to tend to every week 293 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,239 Speaker 2: or every two weeks, and they remind me that I 294 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 2: need to care for myself. They remind me that I 295 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 2: need to show up for the people that I love. 296 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 2: And so I think it's when you're in close proximity 297 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 2: to nature. There's so many lush lessons that we can 298 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 2: learn so many Lutch lessons and the whole self care 299 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 2: community care journey is just one aspect of it. 300 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: Right, Well, it sounds like it's very meditative. 301 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 2: Oh very much so. 302 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 1: So do you think about your plants wellness as an 303 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: extension of your own? 304 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 2: Oh? Yes, completely completely. I had a moment and this 305 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 2: was when my mother was alive. She was watching me 306 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 2: in my poor roommates at the time. Child o lord, 307 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 2: I just took up space. I was like, look y'all, 308 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 2: y'all have to deal with this. I'm just bringing plants 309 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 2: and just go with it. Go with it. It was 310 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 2: so kind and so, you know, it was a Sunday 311 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 2: and I was beginning to build a routine, you know, 312 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 2: spacetimeing my mom. And she was like, oh, you're building 313 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 2: your garden. And she wasn't talking about the garden, the physical. 314 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 2: Whyn't you talking about my inner garden? Right? And she 315 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 2: could tell that, my You could just tell I was 316 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 2: moving differently through the world. And so after I had 317 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 2: that phone call and I was like, I'm always a 318 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 2: very reflective person. I was like, oh, well, you know, 319 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 2: I need water too, I need sunshine too, I need 320 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 2: room to grow too, I need nutrients too. I need 321 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 2: to prune some yellowing lead. We all have some leads 322 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 2: we need to prune, y'all all right, And so you know, 323 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 2: I think it again. It allowed me to practice all 324 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 2: the various different ways that I care for myself. So 325 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 2: these days, honey, I have a self care and menu. 326 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 2: I have a bunch of options of ways I can 327 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 2: care for myself. What's on it? 328 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 1: Oh, darling, I'm like, can you give us. 329 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 2: I'll I mean, you know, I for me personally, I 330 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 2: enjoy roller skating, So I do a lot of roller 331 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 2: skating and a lot of stuff I do by myself. 332 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 2: Like I I think, you know, being with people and 333 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 2: letting them fill your cup. I would say for me, 334 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 2: that's an easier thing to do to rely on someone 335 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 2: else to fill your cup. A little harder when you're 336 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,959 Speaker 2: doing it by yourself. Right, So I roll escape by myself. 337 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 2: I'll go to a random roller rink and I'll do 338 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 2: it by myself. I do dinners by myself, movies, I've traveled. 339 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 2: I just went to Sri Lanka by myself for sixteen days. 340 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:29,959 Speaker 1: It's on his Instagram. Go look at it. 341 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh it was so much fun and 342 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 2: so I allow myself random little adventures and I just 343 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 2: kind of I'm good company with myself. I'm just I 344 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 2: can have a ball. Just give me a little adventure. 345 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 2: I'll go on my you know, on my own. It's 346 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 2: really fun. But those are some of the things that 347 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 2: I do. And then obviously, you know, I have my friends, 348 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 2: we have our little dates and all that jazz. But yeah, 349 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 2: if you haven't taken yourself out on a date, like 350 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 2: do it like the same thing you would do for 351 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 2: a romantic partner, like go all out do that ship 352 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 2: for yourself. It is. It's so fun. It's so fun. 353 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: Get ready, put on the outfit. 354 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 2: Put it on the outfit, get dressed, put on your prefume, 355 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 2: order the car like it's just and just treat yourself. 356 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 2: Bring a book if you want to. I've challenged myself 357 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 2: not to bring anything. And I people watch. I love 358 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 2: people watching. I'm nosy as well, so it lends itself. 359 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: You know, you're you're just interested, which is also why 360 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: you're interesting. I would thank you people watching is it's 361 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: just it's. 362 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 2: So funny little stories for people that you're watching, Oh darling, 363 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 2: good time. 364 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: A couple of my friends and I used to do that. 365 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: We would go out to dinner and be like okay, 366 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: and we would we would like get figure out how 367 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 1: to sit like last supper style, you know, everybody's face 368 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,959 Speaker 1: out and be like, okay, eleven o'clock red shirt, what 369 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:00,959 Speaker 1: do you think he does? Does this date? Like him? 370 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: Or hate him? And we would just make up stories. 371 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 2: For things to do in New York. I mean, come on, 372 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 2: there's so many interesting people here. 373 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 1: And now for our sponsors. When you are out, whether 374 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,959 Speaker 1: with friends or on your own, do you get distracted 375 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: by plants? Like do they lose you because you're. 376 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 2: Like, well, look at this whatever? 377 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: In Latin this is like oh, because I'm like that, like, 378 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 1: don't walk a cute dog by me, I will leave 379 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: the group I'm with and be like, well, no, I 380 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: have to go pat this animal. And I know it's 381 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: a little tough, but I feel like you could be 382 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 1: like and all right and make a left and then 383 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: suddenly at the end of the next block, nobody knows 384 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 1: where you are. 385 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 2: I have been known to tell people who work at 386 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 2: Marrieth places that they need to move the plant or 387 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 2: if inmfestic what it needs need water? Oh, it's not 388 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: going to survive. Here, you need to repot it. I mean, 389 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 2: it's just like once you're in it and like you 390 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 2: see these things, it's hard to like not unsee these things. 391 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I always identify the plants in any space 392 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 2: that I'm in just for funzies, it happened. But yes, 393 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 2: I've tried to dial back on giving folks directions on 394 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 2: the plants in their spaces. If I'm in a home 395 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 2: and I'm close to the friend, I will take it 396 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 2: upon myself to just like, Okay, I think we have 397 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 2: an intervention. 398 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 1: I love that. 399 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 2: I hate plant in dark bathroom. Oh my god, that's 400 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 2: one of the worst things you can do. If there's 401 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 2: no grow light. Even if there's a grow light, you 402 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 2: need to move that plant. 403 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,479 Speaker 1: What do you think are the and I know in 404 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: the book are many tips, but are there a few 405 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,479 Speaker 1: things that you think everyone at every level needs to 406 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: know about plants in their space or is that complicated? 407 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 1: Like I'm thinking about the checklist for eat, sample of 408 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: your self care, take yourself on a date, Like is 409 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: there a universal checklist for plants or no? Because each 410 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: diva needs her own care. 411 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 2: So universal checklist. I think it's important to start where 412 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 2: you are. I think that's, you know, the best route there. 413 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 2: I've tried to demystify the idea of the green thumb, 414 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 2: and I'll try to give you the short version of this, 415 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 2: just like the nature there. To me, I have to 416 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 2: get this out. The term green thumb had two potential origin, 417 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,479 Speaker 2: all right, and when I was writing my book, I 418 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 2: had so much fun writing about this. One is that 419 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 2: there was this king of the old times where he 420 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 2: really enjoyed these peas when he had a subject pick 421 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 2: the peas. When you pick the peas that left a 422 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 2: green stain on your fingers, whoever picked the most peas 423 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 2: would be in favor of the king. So they have 424 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 2: green fingers or green thumbs. Means you were in favor 425 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: of the king because you most likely pick the most peas. 426 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 2: That later became like green thumb, green finger became you 427 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 2: were in good fortune. Nothing to do with taking care 428 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 2: of plants, mind you. The second was that horticulturalist botanists, 429 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 2: you know, maybe dealing with pots that have green algae 430 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 2: on them, it may stain their fingers. Again, nothing to 431 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 2: do with this instinctual knowledge that you have to have. 432 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 2: That the green thumb kind of lends itself to so 433 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 2: I tell folks, it's more like a green muscle. You 434 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 2: build it over time. Like all this stuff is learned. 435 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 2: I have a degree in psychology and a master's in 436 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 2: high education, and I wrote a plant book like It's 437 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 2: self tall, like allow yourself to be curious. Curiosity is 438 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 2: one of the best things that you can allow yourself 439 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 2: to go on when it comes to bringing nature into 440 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 2: your home. 441 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, obviously you inspire everyone who follows you, 442 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: who reads the book. How do you think about what 443 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 1: you've learned, you know, the the journey to self, self care, 444 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: self love, the kind of transformation plants can offer. I 445 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: know you think about it for community. I know you 446 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: think about it for your beautiful nieces, like from this 447 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: place as the person who has this in the world 448 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: and all the things you're working on. How do you 449 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: how do you think about the next waves of your inspiration? 450 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 1: What's next on the journey? 451 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 2: Ooh, I really hope to be, you know, as an educator. 452 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 2: I'm a facilitator, Like I want to facilitate growth. I 453 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 2: want to expose folks to things that they didn't know 454 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 2: they needed, right, and so I am I think the future. 455 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 2: I'm hoping to work with a larger audience, Right, whether 456 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 2: that's the television show touring the various different green spaces 457 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 2: in the world and really showcasing all the behind the 458 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 2: scenes work that happens. Right, there's just so much behind 459 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 2: the scenes work that happens at these gardens, that happens 460 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 2: at these parks, and the folks who are doing this 461 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 2: work are often not applauded. Right. And you know something 462 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,479 Speaker 2: that I'm really excited for for New York City that 463 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 2: I've been reading in the news. It's more funding for 464 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 2: New York City parks. One thing that folks may not 465 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,239 Speaker 2: know is that less than one percent of the New 466 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 2: York City budget goes towards the maintenance of parks. Less 467 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 2: than one percent. And you think about I mean, I'm 468 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 2: sure the New York City budget is massive, but like 469 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 2: less than one percent. Shame, right, And so my hope 470 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 2: is to continue to expose folks to the wonders of 471 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 2: nature and understand help them understand that we all have 472 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 2: a role. We only have this one planet, and we 473 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 2: all have a role to play. We all have a 474 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 2: role to play. And so if I can get you 475 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 2: to care about the plant on your table, maybe you 476 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 2: care about the tree on your block. They just planted 477 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 2: a tree in front of my apartment with giddy for joy. 478 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, how excited is happening? Right, 479 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 2: you care about that tree? Maybe the part then maybe 480 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 2: the forest right again, Meet people where they are and 481 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 2: help them understand that we are all active agents in 482 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,719 Speaker 2: shaping the world that we're a part of. 483 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 1: Yes, especially when you think about what these things do 484 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: for us. You know, the reality that plants clean our air, 485 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: like what you know, feed us, They feed us, they 486 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: enrich our lives. They're so beautiful. I mean the things 487 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: I've learned from you, even in your work with Tree Equity, 488 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: you know when you mentioned they just planted a tree 489 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: on your block, Like you know, this is joy, this 490 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: is fun. This is also education. We're like, you know, 491 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: low caate making sure people aren't getting the mess livelihood. Yes, 492 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: but like the reality is, folks, depending on where you 493 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: live in a city like this or in so many 494 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: cities around America, an affluent neighborhood is going to have 495 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: a very different landscape than a disenfranchised neighborhood. Yes, and 496 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: you know around the country you will see that black 497 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: and brown neighborhoods in particular have less trees, which makes 498 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: neighborhoods hotter, which means which also means people are more 499 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: exposed to low air quality, like all of these things. Lighting, yes, flooding, 500 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: natural disasters. I mean, we can't even talk about like 501 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: what happened during the last major rainstorm in Brooklyn. Oh my, 502 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: got like it. It's it's not just about oh yeah, 503 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: trees are nice, but the economy, gas prices. It's like no, 504 00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: it's actually all connected so deeply. And and I think 505 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: for us figuring out ways to participate in community care 506 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: that are joyful. You know, I do a lot of 507 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: it that frankly isn't joyful. But I'm pissed off all 508 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: the time. So you're welcome, But like the joyful stuff. 509 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: I want to go to the Brooklyn Botanical Garden with 510 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: you and like, plant some trees. That's the best happiest 511 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: activism I will get to do this year. I'm in. 512 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: And I think that's an important thing to remind people of. Like, yes, 513 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: part of the reason we're here is because we want 514 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: you to start somewhere. Get a plant for your apartment, 515 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: if you have a little foot of earth outside, like 516 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: plant some herbs, it's spring, summer's coming. Can I ask 517 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: you some technical questions now that I'm gonna get off 518 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: my soapbox and just you know, I want I need 519 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: to know. I need to know, like what are the 520 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: must have products? And I say this again, like genuinely. 521 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: This came about not because they asked, but because I 522 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: sent my team a video of me why I'd missed 523 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: a call and I was planting things in the yard 524 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: for the bees. Everything's fine, I needed to get outside 525 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: and touch grass and I had my potting soil in 526 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: the thing, and they were like, oh, that's weird. They 527 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: just reached out to iHeart and I was like, say more, 528 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: my mom gave me this, so like I'm down. I 529 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: have the potting soil that Miracle Girl makes. There's one 530 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: for outdoor, one for indoor. You're welcome. I have this 531 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: little pair of like cool Japanese trimming shears with little 532 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: green chic. Yeah. They have like cute little green handles. 533 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: Clearly that I can't live without. Like once I got 534 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: them in my hand, my friend Jed gave them to 535 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: me and I was like, I do feel like Martha. 536 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: And now I have them on the West Coast and 537 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: the East Coast, Like I got one of the little 538 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: sprits misters for some of the plants. I don't know 539 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: if that's real or if I got got by an 540 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: Instagram ad, Like what do the people need to garden 541 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: for real? 542 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 2: Okay? So in terms of tools that I I mean, 543 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 2: you could go down an end list lists. But some 544 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 2: of the things that I think folks would it would 545 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 2: be helpful for folks to have one is a humidifier. 546 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 2: Humidifiers are really really important. They're also great for our 547 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 2: bodies as well. Right, the typical air quality or air dryness, 548 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 2: and the average home is quite dry, right, And a 549 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 2: lot of the plant that we bring into our homes 550 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 2: or what tropical plants, right, And the best thing that 551 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 2: you can do for a plant is try to mimic 552 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 2: the natural habitat that the plant comes from. Right. We 553 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 2: want to trick the plants to think they're in the rainfar. 554 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 2: We can't really do that because humidity leveled in the 555 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 2: rainforest is quite high, and we don't. We can't do 556 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 2: that meldew, mold and all that jazz. Humidfiers are great, 557 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 2: the misters, that's not humidity. But tell me however, but 558 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 2: you can use them to sprint the leaf and then 559 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 2: wipe the leaf because dusting your plant it's really really important. 560 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 2: You want to make sure that there's no dust collecting 561 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 2: because the leaves are its meal ticket and that's how 562 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 2: it collects sunlight. We wanted to photo sensesize and all that. 563 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: Yet wait, so if a plant gets dusty, it doesn't 564 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: get as much sunlight. 565 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 2: It doesn't. Yeah, so you want to make sure you're wipping, 566 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 2: wiping the leaves occasionally overwatering. That's how I kill some 567 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 2: of my plants overwatering. Right, do not water your plant 568 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 2: every day. Don't do it. Like when I've heard somebody 569 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 2: say that, I was like, ooh girl, yeah, so a 570 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 2: soil probe is a soil probe, that's yeah, that's the 571 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 2: name of the you know I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 572 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 2: there is. 573 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: Plants. 574 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,239 Speaker 2: It's like basically a little stick that has ridges in it. 575 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 2: You stick it in the soil, you pull it out, 576 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 2: and then you can feel the moisture from the little 577 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 2: ridges at different levels of the pot. Oh you could 578 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 2: use your finger as well, right, but I have an 579 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 2: expensive manicure and I want to make sure that I 580 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 2: can maintain it so that my little soil probe. Soil 581 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 2: Probe's really helpful. I also talk a lot about this 582 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 2: in my books. So this is a wonderful tool that 583 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 2: you can use as well. Right there we go. Cheers 584 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 2: are really fun scissors. You want to make sure you're 585 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 2: cleaning them before you go from plant to plant. Nutrients 586 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 2: is really important, and so one of the tools that 587 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 2: I use are. One of the products I use is 588 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 2: Miracle Grows Plant Food all Purpose plant Food wonderful. I 589 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 2: use that and nitrogen potassium and n KO phosphorus. There 590 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 2: we go, Thank you. I was like, I'm blank, and 591 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 2: I was like, I know I can relate on your girl. 592 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 2: We won't catch up after this. Those are the three 593 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 2: main nutrients, key nutrients that plants need. And while you could, 594 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 2: you know, make your own little concoction some coffee ground, 595 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 2: the banana pills and all that stuff, you're probably not 596 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 2: going to get the recipe right. So the all purpose 597 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 2: plant food has all those nutrients and micronutrients in it, 598 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 2: and so you want to make sure that you're giving 599 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:19,879 Speaker 2: your plant the nutrient that it needs. Water, the nutrients 600 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 2: in sunlight is really really important. 601 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: How do you know, because I know some plants need 602 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: some sun, some need constant. How do you know when 603 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 1: you're trying to figure out your plant how often to 604 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 1: leave it in the window and maybe when she needs 605 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: a little break. 606 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 2: Honestly, you trial and error. Honestly, there's no like, yeah, 607 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 2: there's no secret recipe. I mean when you are bringing 608 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 2: your plants indoors, like in a place like New York City, 609 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 2: I know someplace some folks lead their plants outside in 610 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 2: the summertime. When you are bringing them back, you do 611 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 2: want to try to like bring it in for a 612 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 2: little bit and then leap and take it back outside leclimatize. Yeah, 613 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 2: so you know, let it spend more time indoors and 614 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 2: put it back and like just time that that's really helpful. 615 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 2: But when you are trying to figure out the place 616 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 2: that you want to put your plant in, do an 617 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,399 Speaker 2: assessment of your space, know the direction of your windows, 618 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 2: understand the kind of light, watch the sunlight. It's also 619 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 2: very therapeutic, like figuring out where you're going to put 620 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 2: your plants. When I've moved into the place that I'm 621 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 2: in right now, I sat in an empty place. I 622 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 2: ordered some pizza, and I watched the sun move through 623 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 2: the apartment, an empty apartment. It was like one of 624 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 2: the most beautiful moments I had in that space, and 625 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,720 Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, cool, I know that this spot 626 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 2: gets this sun in this season for this amount of time, 627 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 2: the sun doesn't touch this spot. And so it's also 628 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 2: you're you're just very present, right, Don't just be like, oh, 629 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 2: I'm just going to go buy a plant because it 630 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 2: looks pretty and I want to put it there and 631 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 2: hopefully it does well and great, Oh dial you had 632 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 2: another one, like really allow yourself the journey of like, Okay, 633 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 2: I'm bringing a living, breathing creature into my home. Let 634 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 2: me be a little respectful and do a little research 635 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 2: on the plant, the natural habitat, the native environment it 636 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 2: comes from, right, and then kind of just adjust it 637 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 2: to your space and don't be a helicopter plant parent, 638 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 2: just like, let the plant do his thing. Plants are 639 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 2: coming from nurseries, right, that are ideal conditions. It's not 640 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:30,399 Speaker 2: going to grow the same way in your apartment, right, 641 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 2: And we have to also understand that the leaves that 642 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 2: were grown in the nursery are probably going to die. 643 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 2: We all have to let go of certain parts of 644 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 2: ourselves when we go into new environments, right, we have 645 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 2: to adapt, we have to grow in new ways. Plants 646 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 2: through the same thing. There's a lot of actually go 647 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 2: on metaphors, metaphors for days. Chi'a'll find me in the back. 648 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 2: I'll keep talking about it. 649 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. I like that we 650 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 1: can take care of our space. Yeah, take care of 651 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 1: the planet, take care of ourselves by being a plant parent. 652 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 1: And like, bonus, no shade, I've you know, been I've 653 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 1: had animals most of my life. But like, you don't 654 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 1: have to pick up a plant, you know, that's nice. 655 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 2: That's a bonus. 656 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 1: Well, friends, you can obviously get a copy of You 657 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: Grow Girl anywhere books are sold. My darling, I want 658 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: to let everyone have fun and have the gorgeous meal 659 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: that's been prepared, and see what's in their gift baskets. 660 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: You really are. I'm so excited. There may or may 661 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 1: not be something from my bees in there. You know, 662 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: it feels fun terrifying. Shipping enough of said surprise from 663 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 1: Los Angeles in glass, I was like, please let the 664 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 1: box be okay. But we made it. We made it, y'all. 665 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: I would just love to know because we are having 666 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 1: a Kiki. But we're also on my show what in 667 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: this moment, and it could be something professional personal, a 668 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: mix of the two. But for Christopher today, what feels 669 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 1: like you're work in progress? 670 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 2: Ooh, My work in progress is being more present in 671 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:36,919 Speaker 2: the fruits of my labor. I put in a lot 672 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 2: of work throughout the years, and you know, I'm a 673 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 2: bit of an overachiever. I've always been straight a student 674 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 2: in school, graduated with honors throughout all my school experiences, 675 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,280 Speaker 2: and I've always thought about the next thing, like, Okay, 676 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,919 Speaker 2: what's the next thing I can achieve, right, which kind 677 00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 2: of robbed me of the achievement that I made right. 678 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 2: And so right now I'm in a place where I'm 679 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 2: trying to help myself understand that this was the point, 680 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 2: like I'm here, enjoy it and use, you know, this 681 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 2: energy to help you get to the next level, but like, 682 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 2: enjoy the fruits of your labor. And so that's why 683 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 2: I'm just grateful for moments like these where we can 684 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,839 Speaker 2: reflect and talk and hopefully inspire y'all to figure out 685 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 2: like how do you begin your garden, not your outdoor garden, 686 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 2: not your indoor gardener, your inner garden. Right for interesting times, right, now, 687 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 2: and I think it's important that we allow ourselves time 688 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 2: to be with ourselves and understand that we are we 689 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 2: are the garden, and we really have to figure out, 690 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 2: like how can we nourish ourselves and grow ourselves so 691 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 2: that hope our bloom can inspire other people. 692 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 1: It's beautiful. You inspire me so much. 693 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 2: You inspire me. Thanks for coming, Thank you for having me. 694 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 1: Thanks for coming, guys, so lovely, so lovely. Follow our 695 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,879 Speaker 1: friends and miracle girl who brought us here and check 696 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 1: out their website, like we said, for easy to use 697 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,360 Speaker 1: products to start your growing journey. Take your inspiration. I 698 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 1: suggest maybe by a plant tomorrow, before life gets busy 699 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 1: and before you forget how good this ws like dive in. 700 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,760 Speaker 1: There's no time like the present. Friends, thanks for being here. Everyone, 701 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 1: I see you over there, will hike. 702 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 2: Let's cart up one more time for Sophia and Christopher. 703 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 2: Thank you so much,