1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: It's the first criminal lead case under President Donald Trump, 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: who's vowed to crack down on government workers who illegally 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: leak information. The Justice Department announced the espionage charges against 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: a government intelligence contractor shortly after the online news outlet 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: The Intercept published what it said was an n essay 6 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: report detailing Russian hacking efforts in the days before the 7 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 1: twenty six election. The twenty five year old contractor, a 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: former US Air Force linguist Reality Lee winner, has been 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 1: working at the firm for less than four months, joining 10 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: us as Patricia Hutado, who covered Manhattan federal courts for 11 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: Bloomberg and wrote this story, pat did this leaked material 12 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: contain new confidential information? Yeah, according to the government, it 13 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: was a top secret report that if it got into 14 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: if it dissonated publicly, would harm the United States because 15 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: of them the information obtained, And so they're they're holding 16 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: that in very high regard, of high concern that it 17 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: got leaked out to the media and published. Patty, what 18 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: do we know about how the government tracked down this 19 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: woman as the alleged leaker. Well, apparently they became they 20 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: were notified when the Intercept it says it doesn't identify 21 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: the news organization, but they said they were UH contacted. 22 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: A government contractor was contacted by a online media reporter 23 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: saying that they had obtained in the mail some documents 24 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: and they wanted to tell them about it and have 25 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: them review it to to determine if they were legitimate 26 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: and UM real. And so the contractor UH immediately became 27 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: concerned about what the data was on the allegedly on 28 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: about in subject matter and basically asked the media report 29 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: of the online reporter to take a photo copy and 30 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: center copy to see what it looked like. And based 31 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: on what that document was sent to them, they determined 32 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: and they were also told that it was mail from Augusta, 33 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: Georgia that they'd obtained in the mail from Augusta, Georgia. UM, 34 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: the government tracked back on the document. Apparently only six 35 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: people ever viewed this document, and UM only hers was 36 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: the web the desktop that they had downloaded and printed 37 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: out the material and then they suggested was folded and 38 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: carried out on her person out of the office patty. 39 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: She had top secret security clearance and worked at this 40 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: government contractor for less than four months, and she admitted 41 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: to FBI agents that she leaked the information to the 42 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: news outlet, knowing quote the contents of the reporting could 43 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: be used to the injury of the US and to 44 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: the advantage of a foreign nation. According to the warrant, 45 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: is there something seriously wrong with the process for getting 46 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: tops curity clearance if something like this happens so fast, 47 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: you know, it's unclear. I mean, she had worked as 48 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: for the United States arm Air Force for um at 49 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: least four to five years prior to this, and she 50 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: was an airman. She had worked as a linguist. She 51 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: apparently came with great credentials. Now we're now seeing social 52 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: media postings that she's put out where she sounds like 53 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: she's got, you know, opinions and political beliefs, and whether 54 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: or not that was vetted. Um, she was working for 55 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: a legitimate government contractor for this U S intelligence agency 56 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: that's unnamed. So maybe people are going to go back 57 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: now and review. Maybe the vetting process needs to be 58 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: a little more thorough before they scrub someone, to make 59 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: sure that they don't, you know, have someone that might 60 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: have some kind of animus or some opinions. Donald Trump 61 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: has spent a lot of time talking and tweeting about 62 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: cracking down on leakers of of UH top secret information. 63 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: Do we anticipate that this case is going to be 64 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: the first of many or is this just a one 65 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: off where UH somebody perhaps was so slopping the way 66 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: that that she leaked the information that it was easy 67 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: for for the FBI to tracker down. Well, we don't know. 68 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: I mean, what we do know is that the obviously 69 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: the report was actually giving UM ballast to UM the 70 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 1: argument that Russians, the Russian government had probably hacked into 71 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: UM election systems, and this was kind of indicating there 72 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: were some content they were outside city contractors that worked 73 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: with the election system that had been compromised by a 74 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: Russian UH by Russian General Staff Main Intelligence Directorate or 75 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: g r U. So this is like a real Russian 76 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: hacking governmental agency. So UM, whether or not the you know, 77 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: the Trump administration wants to crack down on more people 78 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: that dallas to the argument that the Russians hacked the 79 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: US election and we're trying to influence it remains to 80 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: be seen. We do know that the Obama administration really 81 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: clamped down on hackers and during the you know, the 82 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: the Obama administration coming down against people like Chelsea Manning 83 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: and others for leaking material to the to the press 84 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: and making it public. And Patty, how much time is 85 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: she facing if convicted. Um, Well, it's unclear. I mean, 86 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: she did confess to the crime, but she's still at 87 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: this point. She has an appearance on Thursday, um, and 88 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: it's a detention hearing, so the government moves to keep 89 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: her in custody, saying that she's too much of a threat. 90 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: Right now, they're apparently going through all of her computer 91 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: records and all of it. They've done a search of 92 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: her home in Augusta, and she could face up to 93 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: ten years in prison if she's convicted. Well, I'm sure 94 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: that you will be at that hearing and giving us 95 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: the news from and thanks so much for being on 96 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Law. That's Patricia Hurtado. She covers the Manhattan federal 97 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: courts for Bloomberg