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Speaker 1: Welcome Inside with the Insiders, alongside Judy Batista, Mike Garafolo,

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Speaker 1: and Tom Pelissero. Nope, that's me. I'm Tom PELI Sara.

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Speaker 1: Let's Sean Rappaport. I'm Tom. This is the final this

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Speaker 1: We're off to a great start. Man, I'm distracted. Final

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Speaker 1: the news, and we will have a lot of news.

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Speaker 1: We will hopefully have less of Ian standing up and

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Speaker 1: walking away and less of me not knowing who I

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Speaker 1: am and who Ian is. Let's talk more about in

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Speaker 1: part two, and you listen to these in any order,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter. But let's pick up the conversation

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Speaker 1: here Judy, because one of the interesting things when we

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Speaker 1: got these playoff scenarios from our guy Jack Andraid at

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Speaker 1: NFL research is that we know the bills of the

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Speaker 1: number two seed, but there are a lot of different

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Speaker 1: scenarios of who they would potentially play in the first

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Speaker 1: round they could play. The most common scenario is they

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Speaker 1: end up playing the Broncos, because, of course, the Broncos

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Speaker 1: are the one team that is winning in in the AFC.

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Speaker 1: If they are able to beat the Chiefs, which is

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Speaker 1: effectively the backup version of the Chiefs, in all likelihood,

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Speaker 1: the Broncos get in there the seventh seed and they

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Speaker 1: face the Bills. However, if the Broncos lose that game

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Speaker 1: and the Dolphins win, the Dolphins become the seventh seed

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Speaker 1: and go to Buffalo, a game that we have seen

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Speaker 1: a number of different times, and we'll see, of course

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Speaker 1: whether Tua is able to play this week or in

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Speaker 1: a potential playoff game. If both the Broncos and the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins lose, it's the Bengals going into Buffalo. So I'm

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Speaker 1: not even Judy going to frame this to you as

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Speaker 1: which of those teams do you think post is the

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Speaker 1: biggest threat, because I got a wild guess that your

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Speaker 1: which is nobody wants to see the Bengals right now.

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Speaker 1: But as you look at the broader picture of the

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Speaker 1: af SE. How do you see who gets into that

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Speaker 1: seven seed affecting everything else here in terms of how

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Speaker 1: this thing plays out, Well.

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Speaker 2: It affects everything else. I'm going to say exactly what

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Speaker 2: you think. I'm going to say. If the Bengals get

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Speaker 2: in and they need the most help, right, I mean,

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Speaker 2: multiple things have to happen the world.

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Speaker 3: Do they only have a seventeen percent chance? That doesn't

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Speaker 1: Who does the Bengals? Because because everybody's.

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Speaker 2: Playing backups, right, I mean the Chiefs are going to

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Speaker 2: play backups.

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Speaker 1: So the Broncos are playing Carson Wentz the Dolphins. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean again, they may not have their starting quarterback,

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Speaker 1: but you need two other results and you need.

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Speaker 2: To have the hardest way in. They need the most help.

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Speaker 2: But if they get in, that throws the entire field

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Speaker 2: right into a frenzy. I have to think the rest

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Speaker 2: of the AFC is like, please keep them out of

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Speaker 2: wellcause they can do the damage.

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Speaker 3: Don't you think the Chiefs?

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Speaker 4: Everybody wants to win. How can the Chiefs rig this?

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Speaker 4: Do not keep the Bengals in?

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Speaker 1: Win? Win? That's it? They win?

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, the Chiefs need to lose.

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Speaker 4: They have to, Like you always play to win, But

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Speaker 4: like if the choice is letting Joe Burrow in the playoffs,

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Speaker 4: or I mean, bo Nicks actually is really playing pretty good,

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Speaker 4: not Joe Burrow like the other guy. Shouldn't they just

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Speaker 4: like throw the ball to the other team?

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Speaker 1: Well no, I mean, here's the flip side, and Blake

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Speaker 1: and explained it badly, which is, wouldn't the Chiefs want

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Speaker 1: the Bills to face the Bengals in the first round?

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Speaker 1: So beat the Broncos, hope the Dolphins lose somehow to

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Speaker 2: At least then but then, but you still have the

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Speaker 1: The Bengals are the Bills. But the more you know,

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Speaker 5: I mean, do you think Andy Reid's sitting in his

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 5: Yes, it's like that meme of like.

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Speaker 1: He's watching that commercial of himself over and over. She's

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Speaker 5: Take take a step back and go.

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Speaker 6: We're the two time defending world champions and we're gonna

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Speaker 3: They don't care.

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Speaker 1: No, they don't care.

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Speaker 5: I know they don't care. How are you gonna control?

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Speaker 6: You don't know which Carson Wentz you're gonna get this week, right, Like,

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Speaker 6: so you're gonna throw him out there and he's gonna

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Speaker 5: Screw up scenarios like you don't know him.

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Speaker 6: He played extremely well last year in a didn't matter

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Speaker 1: It doesn't Andy on some level I'm not saying any

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Speaker 1: keep Sean from getting the Broncos in the playoffs. They're

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Speaker 1: in your division. They're a team that you're probably like

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Speaker 1: Spring boards him as opposed to oh my god, we

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Speaker 1: a psychological torture level, just like plant that seed, like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're not even on the level of the backups, but

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Speaker 5: Nuts.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying any of this back I

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Speaker 1: don't think anything. I think everybody plays to win, but

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Speaker 1: how you play, who you play does have an impact

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Speaker 1: on these things, Mike, It does have an impact. Everybody's

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Speaker 2: One said this right. Tomlin said that if they are are,

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Speaker 2: if everything is already locked in, that he will still

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Speaker 6: Heading in the guy, the guy who plays his guys

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Speaker 5: Me even a little bit of that.

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Speaker 1: And he plays his guys in the preseason two he

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Speaker 3: I always think of.

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Speaker 2: That's one of the greatest games I've ever covered.

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Speaker 6: You can't to this, No, let me see where he's

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Speaker 6: going there on which game?

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Speaker 1: Tell all right, so tell the story again?

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Speaker 3: Trips right not to play for all?

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Speaker 5: You can't come here?

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Speaker 3: Were you there or something?

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Speaker 5: I wasn't.

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Speaker 6: Actually my friend's wedding was was the only game on Saturday. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: that's one of the greatest games I've ever covered. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: ganks Judy Appure. I actually it's funny because I have

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Speaker 6: a good story from her. I was so the I'd

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Speaker 5: So the schedule comes.

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Speaker 6: Out and I send it to my mother because she

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Speaker 5: It's it's there's no logic to it, just you know, yeah, so.

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Speaker 1: Your mom, we get that on the topic bar police.

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Speaker 6: Send it to her in April and she goes, I said, oh,

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Speaker 6: look at the schedule. You know, we were mostly concerned

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Speaker 5: I was like, well, who cares. It'll be a meaningless game.

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Speaker 6: The Patriots gonna be resting everybody whatever, and so as

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Speaker 6: for the Patriots to lose it because I don't want

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Speaker 6: to miss that game. And that's why I always say

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Speaker 6: they almost lost to the Eagles, who were terrible. They

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Speaker 5: Nineteenth game, that's history. And he didn't. It's not like

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Speaker 6: He was just talking about that's the game that they

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Speaker 6: Super Bowl. I was like, ah, I got repaid for that.

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Speaker 6: Thank you bout, Papa.

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Speaker 3: He just told you something to make you feel nice

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Speaker 2: That game out, But that game fueled that run to

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Speaker 6: What's funny they could beat the Patriot And I'll get

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Speaker 6: ian you get the floor after this. But what's funny

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Speaker 6: is I wasn't there, and so that in my head,

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Speaker 6: I was like, this is the same team that almost

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Speaker 6: lost to the Eagles, to the Ravens, and who cares

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Speaker 6: that you came close? These horrible teams came close as well.

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Speaker 6: But and Vinnie the Tranny who covered the Giants for

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Speaker 6: the Bergen Record and now just tweets a lot of

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Speaker 6: crazy stuff or retweets. But Vinnie said to me, he goes,

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Speaker 6: you weren't there, so you don't know, Like, trust me,

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Speaker 6: there was an energy in that building.

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Speaker 5: And now Judy's telling me the same thing.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, yeah, I cannot believe you weren't there.

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Speaker 2: If there was an energy, it was like the most energized,

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Speaker 2: like any game, you're like vibrating. It was great.

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Speaker 5: So tell us Ian what week eighteen and the Chiefs

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Speaker 5: playing the the uh? Who are they playing again?

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Speaker 4: No talk about the Lions, Come about the Lions, and

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Speaker 3: I think we were.

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Speaker 4: If anyone gets injured, I'm against all and the Lions

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Speaker 2: game that it sends up an alarm, like why did

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Speaker 2: that happen? Because they were rolling, they looked great yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Obviously that's the game. That's like what happened there? Wow,

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Speaker 2: Still I would not want to play them. I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: want to play the Rams either. I would not want

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Speaker 2: to play the Bucks in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Only the amer Bucks can be the three. The four

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Speaker 1: can be the Bucks the Rams, or if the Bucks

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Speaker 1: lose and the Falcons win, it's the Falcons who lost.

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Speaker 1: They had the control for exactly one week of the

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Speaker 1: division lost last night to the Commanders. If the Falcons

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Speaker 1: get in, they are the four, which means whoever's the four?

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Speaker 1: It could also be the Bucks of the Rams and

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Speaker 1: whoever's the four has the fourteen win Vikings or the

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Speaker 1: thirteen or fourteen win Lions coming into their building. It's

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Speaker 1: I mean, I would ask you this, Judy, what's the

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Speaker 1: path if any of the U see for the Falcons

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Speaker 1: to beat either of those teams? If all this falls

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Speaker 1: into place this weekend Bucks lost, the Falcons win, and

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Speaker 1: they actually in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: I don't see a path.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's the show, everybody.

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Speaker 2: I don't see a path. Listen. They are and Penis

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Speaker 2: has played well, But to throw a rookie quarterback with

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Speaker 2: two starts at that point, it'll be three starts under

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Speaker 2: his belt in that situation against teams that can score score, score,

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Speaker 2: score score and play really good defense. Uh, I don't

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Speaker 2: see a path. That's a very that would be a

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Speaker 2: very tough matchup for the for the Falcons.

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Speaker 1: So right now, I mean, this is really what we're

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Speaker 1: down to, which is in the NFC it is just

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Speaker 1: who wins the NFC South and then obviously the big

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Speaker 1: one being who ends up getting the number one seed.

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Speaker 1: There's other things that again can minorly.

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Speaker 7: There's only two spots available overall, there's one spot availbec

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Speaker 7: In the AFC, there are there is one which is

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Speaker 7: the seventh seed, and you also have the division up

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Speaker 7: for grabs between the Steelers and the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: So that's what's left after the and that's the part

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Speaker 1: because the Rams, while not on the field, clinched with

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Speaker 1: a series of that's the first time I can remember

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Speaker 1: the counting up tiebreaker, the strength of victors.

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Speaker 3: I was going to ask you guys this. I didn't

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Speaker 3: even know it existed like that.

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Speaker 1: It's a weighs down because you have the head to

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Speaker 1: head tiebreakers, you have conference record, you have common games,

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Speaker 1: and then you get down to strengthen victory. I can't

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Speaker 1: remember if that's exactly it you There might be one

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Speaker 1: more in there.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I wrote it last night. It's like

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Speaker 2: the fourth tiebreaker, so you never.

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Speaker 1: Get to us, right. But that's like, you know, the

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Speaker 1: death by a thousand cuts for the Seahawks. There just

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Speaker 1: like watching each individual game unfold. If the Commanders don't

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Speaker 1: come back, they're technically still alive today and rooting for

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Speaker 1: the Lions to beat the forty nine ers, and the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks would go in, they'd still be a long shock

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Speaker 1: cause they'd still have to win that tiebreaker, but they

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Speaker 1: would have had hope going into the final week of

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Speaker 1: the season, which you know, if you would I think

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Speaker 1: if you had told any of us at the mid

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Speaker 1: season point, the Dolphins, for instance, would still be in

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Speaker 1: this mix. I think everybody would have said that there's

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Speaker 1: absolutely no chance. You know, that's that's a coaching staff.

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Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel won't get Coach of the Year votes or anything,

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Speaker 1: but that staff has done a remarkable job to say

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Speaker 1: nothing to.

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Speaker 3: The fact that getting Tyler Snoop Huntley.

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Speaker 1: Of twenty six passing yesterday could not against a team

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Speaker 1: that he was the four string quarterback and cut him

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Speaker 1: at the end of cap to keep them in the

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Speaker 1: playoff team soon. So this is old hat for Snoop.

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Speaker 1: He did this a couple of years ago when the

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Speaker 1: Ravens were out of it too, and he played really

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Speaker 1: well down the stretch and end up being in the

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. I don't think he's getting Pro Bowl votes

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Speaker 1: this year. I would love to see him get some

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Speaker 1: votes just because he became two time Pro Bowl quarterback

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Speaker 1: Snoop ontly without ever actually being a full time starter.

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Speaker 1: That would be fun. I gotta ask you this if

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Speaker 1: the teams in that if in the playoffs or still

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Speaker 1: are alive for the playoffs, who, in your mind is

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Speaker 1: the biggest surprise that they are in this position?

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Speaker 5: Hmm, what's your question?

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Speaker 1: I was just saying if Mike was listening, but.

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Speaker 5: No, I was listening. It's just I don't I wasn't

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Speaker 5: ready for the question. So the fact that.

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Speaker 6: They're still alive, I would say probably, I'd say Miami.

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Speaker 6: I never doubted that the Bengals were going to be

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Speaker 6: in the mix. Uh, So I would say probably Miami

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Speaker 6: is the biggest knowing that where they were middle of

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Speaker 6: the season. Now, I do remember looking at their schedule saying,

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Speaker 6: there are winnable games. This stretch is not tough once

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Speaker 6: they get everybody right and get to a back and

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Speaker 6: but the fact.

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Speaker 5: That really they had to win.

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Speaker 6: They had very little margin for error, and they did

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Speaker 6: everything they could to possibly be in this position right

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Speaker 6: now and then again to lose to it again here

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Speaker 6: and then potentially for this weekend coming up here. So yeah,

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Speaker 6: I'll go to Miami on that one.

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Speaker 3: So how about this?

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Speaker 4: How about my story which I was so excited about

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Speaker 4: the Kalays Campbell story going. You know, he almost goes

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Speaker 4: to the Ravens and Mike McDaniel Nixon and they have

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Speaker 4: a discussion about whether or not they're going to release him,

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Speaker 4: and everyone sort of thinks, are well, obviously when they

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Speaker 4: get eliminated, they're going to release him. And like, there

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Speaker 4: was a lot of tweets and I wrote a story

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Speaker 4: on it at some point, and I've checked on it

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Speaker 4: a million times. And now they're still live and they're

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Speaker 4: going to be still live till Sunday, and obviously they're

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Speaker 4: not going to release him, and that's going.

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Speaker 1: To release him after No, they can't. It happened last year.

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Speaker 3: No, no, not after the Sea I think on.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens released three guys and one or more of

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Speaker 1: them signed with other teams. It's a weird unless they

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Speaker 1: close that loophole. This would be a good thing to

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Speaker 1: check after the show. The Ravens release. They released a

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Speaker 1: couple of other guys when last year or two years

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Speaker 1: ago and they were able to sign with other teams

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Speaker 1: after they were out of the playoffs. I thought the

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Speaker 1: same thing I thought rosters they were not you have

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Speaker 1: a limited you can each you can sign all right,

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Speaker 1: I will dig into this. It's each team can sign

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Speaker 1: like one or two veteran free agents during the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: And so if a guy gets released during the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: because would the team ever do that except like let

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Speaker 1: people go and find their next spot. The Ravens did

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Speaker 1: it a couple of years ago. So I went down

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Speaker 1: this rabbit hole in the bylaws finding out how this works.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, this is what you're is.

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Speaker 3: How often does this happen to you?

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Speaker 2: It's an it's ambulances. We happen to live near an

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Speaker 2: avenue that leads to NYU Hospital.

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Speaker 5: But middle of the night, like ambulances going by, no

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Speaker 5: means in the middle of the night.

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Speaker 1: All right, on that note, let's wrap it up here.

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Speaker 1: Thank you to everybody who has watched the Monday YouTube

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Speaker 1: and podcast edition of the show all season long. If

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Speaker 1: of the show, this is the last one of these.

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Speaker 1: The good news is that means we are now on

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Speaker 1: five days a week, every weeknight all the way through

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Speaker 1: time on NFL Network. You can still get the show

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Speaker 1: an NFL Plus. It's just more insiders, it's more us,

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Speaker 1: which is fun. We got a lot on the show

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Speaker 1: throughout the course of the week. We mentioned JK. Dobbins

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Speaker 1: gonna be on the show. Eric b Enemy, one of

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Speaker 1: our old friends, is also going to be stopping by.

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Speaker 1: What does he have lined up? Potentially in the NFL

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Speaker 1: A lot more to come. All the fun centered around

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Speaker 1: NFL Network seven pm Eastern time. Also again, can catch

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Speaker 1: it everywhere else you get your podcasts, go on NFL Plus,

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Speaker 1: go on YouTube, all that good stuff. All right, so

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Speaker 1: always playoff time. We're almost there. Stick with us for Ian,

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Speaker 1: Yes that's Ian. I'm Tom for Ian, Mike and Judy,

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Speaker 1: I am Tom. We'll see it.