WEBVTT - Blacks for Trump Isn’t a Thing

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<v Speaker 1>Native Land Pod is a production of iHeartRadio and partnership

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<v Speaker 1>with Recent Choice Media. All Right, everybody, welcome home, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to Native Land Pod. We are your host, Tiffany Cross, Angela, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and Andrew Gillem.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome home, y'all.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome home.

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<v Speaker 1>We are still celebrating the tail end of Black History.

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<v Speaker 1>By the time you guys get this podcast, it will

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<v Speaker 1>officially be March. I mean, where did February go? Is

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<v Speaker 1>a leap year and time is going so fast. What

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<v Speaker 1>did you say, Andrew?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I said, holy crap. No, but we have two

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<v Speaker 4>more days.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, No, you have one more day on Black History Month?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean yeah, on the podcast release.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And by the time people listen, it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be supposed to be able to talk better.

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<v Speaker 2>This week, I still can't talk.

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<v Speaker 6>It's because we have so much to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let me just say, speaking of can't talk, I

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<v Speaker 1>do want our listeners and viewers to know I am

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<v Speaker 1>a bit under the weather. Her and find you a

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<v Speaker 1>crew that cares enough about you to instacart you a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of mens. Angela uh, doctor Angela medicine woman remedies

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<v Speaker 1>off of the natural remedies.

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<v Speaker 4>Decline hopeful.

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<v Speaker 6>Look.

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<v Speaker 1>I was supposed to call Angeline figure out how to

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<v Speaker 1>taste this. It was the heart shape herb. But I

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<v Speaker 1>had to pray to the answers to turn around and

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<v Speaker 1>bow three times. I just took one of everything. I

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<v Speaker 1>took one of everything, and.

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<v Speaker 2>That was specifically not what she was told to do.

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<v Speaker 5>Two tablespoods and apple sider vinegar is not one of everything.

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<v Speaker 2>But I digress, Angela.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you everything that was in that bag. I

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<v Speaker 1>was taking one and I'm like, this is bingo ail.

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<v Speaker 1>Do I drink it?

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<v Speaker 6>Do I put on my.

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<v Speaker 2>Record?

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<v Speaker 4>I like it.

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<v Speaker 6>And stuff It's good juices and berries, juices and berries.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, guys, I will tell you one thing I really

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<v Speaker 1>hate about the echo chamber is I never see us reflected.

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<v Speaker 1>So I really love convening with you guys every week

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<v Speaker 1>where we have conversation that we really have all week

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<v Speaker 1>and now it's just like you guys get the eavesdrop

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<v Speaker 1>on the conversation and we love that you're a part

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<v Speaker 1>of it too. So I want to break down what

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to get into. We had a big primary

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<v Speaker 1>in a battleground state, Michigan, so we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that what happened there with that protest vote. No

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<v Speaker 1>big surprises in the winners, but that nuanced protests vote

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<v Speaker 1>is certainly something to talk about.

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<v Speaker 6>And we have a big week coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Up because we're looking ahead to Super Tuesday that's coming

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<v Speaker 1>up Tuesday, March fifth, and the President will deliver his

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<v Speaker 1>State of the Union address on March seventh. So we

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<v Speaker 1>asked you guys to weigh in with what you wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to hear him talk about, and boy did you ever.

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<v Speaker 6>So we have some of your comments. We're going to

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<v Speaker 6>be talking about that.

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<v Speaker 1>We also want to get into how the DEI issues

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<v Speaker 1>remain under attack. There are so many attacks on these

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<v Speaker 1>issues across the country and they continue.

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<v Speaker 6>And speaking of things being under attacked, our pockets are

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<v Speaker 6>under attack.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to get into this win these surge pricing

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<v Speaker 1>on this episode. So we got a lot to get into.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's kick it off and in the words of

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<v Speaker 1>old school Jane and Jackson, give me a beat. In

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<v Speaker 1>some other news, fresh off Capitol Hill, Mitch McConnell, Senator,

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<v Speaker 1>Senator Mitch McConnell, the Senate Majority Leader, I'm sorry, Senate

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<v Speaker 1>Minority leader. He is the minority they have. The Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>are on the Senate, on the Senate in the upper chamber.

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<v Speaker 1>He is stepping down now. He's not stepping down from

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<v Speaker 1>his Senate seat despite experiencing several medical incidents that we've

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<v Speaker 1>all bought witness to, but he is stepping down from

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<v Speaker 1>his position in leadership. Interesting facts about Mitch McConnell. His

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<v Speaker 1>he made some remarks I think what last year, maybe, Angelie,

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<v Speaker 1>you remember when he talked about black people voting just

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<v Speaker 1>as much as Americans voting as though they're separate. Another

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<v Speaker 1>interesting facts about Mitch McConnell. His family actually enslaved black people,

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<v Speaker 1>which is part of how he got to his leadership position.

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<v Speaker 6>So thoughts and prayers to.

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<v Speaker 4>Him, Tiffany Man, I add one more interesting fact. Yes, Sir,

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<v Speaker 4>Mitch McConnell also pulled off the greatest theft in history

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<v Speaker 4>by taking and stealing a Supreme Court justice seat during

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<v Speaker 4>Barack Obama's term as president. And they got away when

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<v Speaker 4>it's Scott free.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's get into the big news this week, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is the Michigan primary. No big surprises there, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you guys have heard us talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>protest vote that was introduced Congresswoman racheated to leave, encouraging

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<v Speaker 1>people to do a protest vote. Well, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people listen because as of right now, one hundred over

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred thousand people according to the latest reporting, voted uncommitted.

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<v Speaker 1>So before we get into the discussion, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>let you guys hear what Congresswoman Rasheated to Leave had

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<v Speaker 1>to say when she was leaving the voting vote.

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<v Speaker 6>Take a listen, and we'll talk about it. On the

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<v Speaker 6>other side.

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<v Speaker 7>Everyone, it's Rashida. I was proud today to walk in

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<v Speaker 7>and pull a democratic ballot and vote uncommitted. We must

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<v Speaker 7>protect our democracy. We must make sure that our government

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<v Speaker 7>is about us, about the people. When seventy four percent

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<v Speaker 7>of Democrats and Michigan support a cease fire, yet President

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<v Speaker 7>Biden is not hearing us, this is the way we

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<v Speaker 7>can use our democracy to say listen. Listen to Michigan,

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<v Speaker 7>Listen to the families right now that have been directly impacted.

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<v Speaker 7>But also listen to the majority of Americans who are

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<v Speaker 7>saying enough, no more wars, no more using our dollars

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<v Speaker 7>to fund a genocide, no more.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So that's Congressman Rashida to leave talking about

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<v Speaker 1>voting uncommitted Angela Andrew, What do you guys make of that?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah? You know. The thing that I have to say

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<v Speaker 5>here is I just have some frustration to express. I

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<v Speaker 5>am so frustrated with the last of empathy, particularly from

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<v Speaker 5>people on social media. I can't tell you if I

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<v Speaker 5>was the sole Palestinian representative in Congress, what I would

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<v Speaker 5>want people to do to make their voices heard. I

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<v Speaker 5>want to remind folks that this is a primary election.

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<v Speaker 5>It is the perfect time to make your voices heard.

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<v Speaker 5>However you choose to do that, whether it is I'm

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<v Speaker 5>a vote for you, but here are my demands, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>a vote for you, but here's my agenda, or I'm

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<v Speaker 5>saying I'm uncommitted right now and I'm going to make

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<v Speaker 5>sure that I put all the pressure I have the

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<v Speaker 5>ability to apply to you until we get to the

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<v Speaker 5>convention in Chicago. I think that she had to do

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<v Speaker 5>what she had to do. I understand it. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>love it. It scares me, particularly when I look at

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<v Speaker 5>the results from Biden versus Donald Trump, where you see

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<v Speaker 5>Joe Biden at six hundred and eighteen thousand plus votes

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<v Speaker 5>and you see Donald Trump at seven hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 5>six thousand plus votes. If the election were held today,

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<v Speaker 5>that would have meant that Donald Trump would have beat

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<v Speaker 5>Joe Biden and Michigan.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is a battleground state. It's a state that's needed.

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<v Speaker 5>The one thing that we know we can't afford to

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<v Speaker 5>do in this country is right off any particular state,

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<v Speaker 5>Like everybody needs to vote. Every single state, every battleground

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<v Speaker 5>needs to be blue in order for democracy to be preserved.

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<v Speaker 2>That is where we are. So there's a lot at stake.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm not gonna say, how dare she do this?

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<v Speaker 2>Like she doesn't.

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<v Speaker 5>She's she is fully human, fully Palestinian, and walking a

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<v Speaker 5>very lonely road, and I don't know what that's like.

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<v Speaker 5>So you know, I kudos to everyone who won turned

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<v Speaker 5>out because that's the most important thing. What is not

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<v Speaker 5>a protest vote is you sit in your ass on

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<v Speaker 5>a couch. That's not a protest vote. That's letting somebody

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<v Speaker 5>else vote for you. And so I think that the

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<v Speaker 5>best thing that we could hope for in a democracy,

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<v Speaker 5>in a two party system that frankly hasn't served the

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<v Speaker 5>least among us very well.

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<v Speaker 2>I support them being active. Nonetheless, agreed, agreed.

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<v Speaker 1>Now now, Andrew, you know, Michigan is home to a

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<v Speaker 1>very large Arab American population. We have all seen the

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<v Speaker 1>carnage out of Gaza. It is hard to look at

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<v Speaker 1>and it is not just an issue for Arab Americans.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people are looking at what's happening over there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very unhappy about it.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you mean, Yeah, I mean I think you're right,

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<v Speaker 4>and both of you are right, Angela. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 4>what the sentiment has been on social media. I think

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<v Speaker 4>it's probably pretty well known. Now. I don't read social

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<v Speaker 4>media comments anymore, but I got to tell you, the

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<v Speaker 4>exercise of a demonstration vote could not have been better

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<v Speaker 4>place than in a primary election. Let's just be clear

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<v Speaker 4>about this, because if we were at November, which thankfully

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<v Speaker 4>is nine months away, and we were dealing with this

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<v Speaker 4>kind of a protest vote, we'd beat up up the

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<v Speaker 4>creek without a pedal. Hillary Clinton lost the state of

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<v Speaker 4>Michigan by somewhat eleven thousand votes to Donald Trump eleven thousand.

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<v Speaker 4>Joe Biden in the rematch. Obviously in last year, oh sorry,

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<v Speaker 4>last election cycle won the state by a little over

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred thousand votes, so we're anywhere between eleven thousand

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<v Speaker 4>and one hundred thousand votes, making the difference between who

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<v Speaker 4>gets the electoral votes out of Michigan and what that

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<v Speaker 4>also means, by further extension, who wins the presidency of

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<v Speaker 4>the United States of America. That's what it comes down to.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I saw interviews on television many of those

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<v Speaker 4>voters who came out and said, I voted protests because

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<v Speaker 4>I want to send the White House a message that

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<v Speaker 4>I don't like how the President is handling this war

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<v Speaker 4>in the Middle East. And they said, but I want

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<v Speaker 4>to I want to vote for Joe Biden. I want

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<v Speaker 4>to be convinced to be able to vote for Joe

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<v Speaker 4>Biden come the November election. So I think a good

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<v Speaker 4>number of these people will come home, But I don't

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<v Speaker 4>believe they're coming home unless they see something different by

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<v Speaker 4>way of how this administration is effectuating policy there. And

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<v Speaker 4>it should be a warning sign to the White House.

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<v Speaker 4>But I will tell you who else out of adopted

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<v Speaker 4>a warning sign. Donald Trump. He lost three hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 4>votes to NICKI Haley. Practically you can't win, to say

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<v Speaker 4>to Michigan losing that many Republican voters and so I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know how many of them say I'll vote for

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<v Speaker 4>her now and then I'll switch and vote for him later.

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<v Speaker 4>But my guess is a number of those people are

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<v Speaker 4>probably not Trumpers, or never Trumpers are now never Trumpers,

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<v Speaker 4>and so that that ought have sent a oney sign

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<v Speaker 4>to the Republicans as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm glad you brought up Nicki Haley because she

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<v Speaker 1>actually said that she is not getting out the race.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's wait, I just have one quick thing, quick thing.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry, it's going to be super quick. The only

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<v Speaker 5>other thing I wanted to flag for everyone is in

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<v Speaker 5>twenty twelve, when Barack Obama was in the race, there

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<v Speaker 5>was a primary where eleven percent of Michiganders voted uncommitted

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<v Speaker 5>as well. It wasn't a protest for twenty it was,

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<v Speaker 5>but it was it was eleven percent of the turnout,

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<v Speaker 5>and so I just want to make sure that folks

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<v Speaker 5>also know that as well.

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<v Speaker 2>That was all I love.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So, nick I'm glad you brought up Nicki

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<v Speaker 1>Haley because she says she's not getting out the race.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's take a listen to what she told CNN's

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<v Speaker 1>Dan of Ash this week.

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<v Speaker 8>We've only seen a handful of states vote. I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 8>I've said this before. As much as the media wants

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<v Speaker 8>to jump ahead, we're taking this one state, one day

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<v Speaker 8>at a time.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what this is about.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, if I got out when y'all were talking

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<v Speaker 8>about it earlier in New Hamphire, South Carolina, whatever, it

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<v Speaker 8>would be the longest general election race in presidential history. Still,

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<v Speaker 8>if I got out today, it'd be the longest general

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<v Speaker 8>election race in history. America is blessed to be a democracy.

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<v Speaker 8>Let people vote now. In the next week, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 8>watch twenty states and territories vote. Let's let that happen.

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<v Speaker 4>That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so yeah, that is the whole point of a contest.

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<v Speaker 1>Angela has been doing an excellent job posting these news updates.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys, be sure to follow Native Land Pod on

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram because you can keep track of what's happening.

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<v Speaker 6>Just so folks know.

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<v Speaker 1>Super Tuesday, Tuesday, March fifth, the state's voting Alabama, Alaska,

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<v Speaker 1>that's GOP only in Alaska, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Iowa, Maine, Massachusetts, Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 1>North Carolina, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Utah or Mount Virginia, and

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<v Speaker 1>the US territory of American Samoa. Angela, What do you

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, does Nicky have a path to the White House.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, Nimroda, but I know you don't like when

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<v Speaker 1>I call her that. But do you think she has

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<v Speaker 1>a path to the WHI Well.

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<v Speaker 5>First, I just want to add that there have been

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<v Speaker 5>a great number of people who are supporting us on

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<v Speaker 5>the news clips online, and I want to shout out

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<v Speaker 5>camera and Lolo.

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<v Speaker 2>Lolo's going above and beyond these days.

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<v Speaker 5>She's like, research has to be in the news clips too,

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<v Speaker 5>So shout out to them. Nicky Hayley does not have

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<v Speaker 5>a path unless there's some magic math that's going to

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<v Speaker 5>happen at some point. She is picking up delegates along

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<v Speaker 5>the way. I think right now at twenty two delegates

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<v Speaker 5>in counting, but we probably won't count that manymore. I

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<v Speaker 5>am suggesting that even though she says she's going to

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<v Speaker 5>stay in the race, I don't think she'll stay in

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<v Speaker 5>much longer than Super Tuesday, which is the same thing

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<v Speaker 5>we said last week.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, what is the point of her staying? Like, what

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<v Speaker 6>do you think about it? Andrew?

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<v Speaker 2>With her?

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<v Speaker 6>Like, is her presence making a difference?

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<v Speaker 4>I think that, first of all for the Democrats. I

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<v Speaker 4>absolutely think that it's making a difference. Why because we're

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<v Speaker 4>going to be able to clip every one of these

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<v Speaker 4>comments and put them in commercials and ads, radio, television,

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<v Speaker 4>and otherwise during the general election and target that very

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<v Speaker 4>specifically to independent voters, undecided voters who are trying to

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<v Speaker 4>make a decision between Donald Trump and the President Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 4>And to have the how do you say, the co

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<v Speaker 4>sign of a triedent for Republican who represents a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of stuff I don't believe in, has set a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of stuff I detest. But to have a Republican saying

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<v Speaker 4>what she is saying in truth about Donald Trump, we'll

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<v Speaker 4>add a lot of fodder for the campaign as we

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<v Speaker 4>get closer to election day. But I will tell you

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<v Speaker 4>just say, I think there are two advantages that here

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<v Speaker 4>staying in one, I think she's probably preparing herself for

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<v Speaker 4>the next round of this twenty twenty eight coming out

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<v Speaker 4>of this election, basically saying, once all the trials are

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<v Speaker 4>all done, once you know, hopefully Donald Trump is in

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<v Speaker 4>nick cuffs and prison ate you know, in prison, she'll say, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm your girl. I stood up when all the men

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<v Speaker 4>dropped out when everybody else didn't have the courage to

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<v Speaker 4>take it toe to toe with Donald Trump. I did it,

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<v Speaker 4>and I deserve to be the nominee this time. That's

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<v Speaker 4>one reason too. I think she's potentially waiting for one

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<v Speaker 4>of these trials to straight up in this man's political career.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if that will happen prior to November,

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<v Speaker 4>but I think she's probably hedging that that might be

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<v Speaker 4>a possibility. And if she's the last woman standing, last

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<v Speaker 4>person standing, she may feel that she's in good position

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<v Speaker 4>to win the party's support as its nominee. Should he

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<v Speaker 4>Should he not make it to November?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but here's my question, because a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>are never Trumpers until they ain't correct what we see

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<v Speaker 1>a day when Nicki Haley is on stage saying, I

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<v Speaker 1>Nicki Haley support Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 6>She's served in his administration.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think we can see that.

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<v Speaker 6>So they will fall into guess what.

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<v Speaker 4>Those words aren't going away, her critiques of him aren't

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<v Speaker 4>going away, and the accuracy of those critiques don't go away.

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<v Speaker 4>So it doesn't diminish our ability to take her words,

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<v Speaker 4>put them in advertising, and let her take him down

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<v Speaker 4>for real, not lightweight but real.

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<v Speaker 5>The only thing I'll say to this is, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>in so many instances, you hear people, I think, particularly

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<v Speaker 5>young people these days, who are like this is why

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<v Speaker 5>I don't like politics, because if you watch people speak

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<v Speaker 5>out of both sides of their mouth. And we don't

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<v Speaker 5>even have to wait for Nikki Haley to be on

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<v Speaker 5>the stage endorsement Donald Trump, maybe even hoping that she

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<v Speaker 5>becomes his VP, right to watch the double speak. She

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<v Speaker 5>will double speak and talk herself in circles in one interview.

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<v Speaker 5>We saw it on the Breakfast Club. We saw it

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<v Speaker 5>on State of the Union, so we.

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<v Speaker 4>See it over and over again.

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<v Speaker 5>We see it at the town halls like she will

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<v Speaker 5>talk herself in circles. So these are this is the

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<v Speaker 5>reason she embodies why so many people, particularly young folks,

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<v Speaker 5>don't like politics. It's frustrating to see.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, look, I just have seen time and time

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<v Speaker 1>again where people have come out been highly critical of

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<v Speaker 1>this man and eventually they fall in line, and it

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<v Speaker 1>is crazy. It's like a cult.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't doubt that, y'all. But this is why Fanian

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<v Speaker 4>Angela and I know we know this, but that's why

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<v Speaker 4>we can't take any voter any vote for granted, When

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<v Speaker 4>you can lose the presidency by the by eleven thousand

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<v Speaker 4>votes in one state, then y'all, if you need anything

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<v Speaker 4>else to underscore the importance the imperative to your voice

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<v Speaker 4>being in the process, this is it, because that's what

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<v Speaker 4>it's going to come down to. A few states and

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<v Speaker 4>a few thousand votes or maybe a few hundred votes

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<v Speaker 4>in between. Bush, you did become president with a four

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<v Speaker 4>what was it a five for Supreme Court decision, right,

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<v Speaker 4>and a couple hundred votes in Florida in two thousand.

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<v Speaker 4>That made the difference every time.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, the hanging chest. That's swinging chess. Yeah, hanging Chad, Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Your next.

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<v Speaker 4>Started on there.

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<v Speaker 6>Florida, Florida.

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<v Speaker 5>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you, you brought up a really good point about

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<v Speaker 1>being able to lose the presidential election by just a

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<v Speaker 1>few thousand votes, But there are some nuance to that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want us to discuss that.

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<v Speaker 6>We have a viewer question.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you guys for submitting all your questions to us,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can keep sending those at Native land Pod

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<v Speaker 1>on our Instagram handle. But we have an interesting viewer

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<v Speaker 1>question that we want to get to. But first we're

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<v Speaker 1>got to take a really quick break, but don't go

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere because right after this we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Trump and black Trump supporters.

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<v Speaker 6>Is it a real thing. We'll get to that on

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<v Speaker 6>the other side. Don't go anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So we have a question from Joyce Smith from

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<v Speaker 1>the Bronx.

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<v Speaker 6>Joyce, what you got?

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Joyce Smith Jones. I'm from the Bronx,

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<v Speaker 2>New York.

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<v Speaker 9>My question is why are some of our folks in

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<v Speaker 9>our community still willing to support Trump after so much

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<v Speaker 9>he can continues to be transparent about how he feels

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<v Speaker 9>about our community.

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<v Speaker 2>He has.

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<v Speaker 9>Always been a racist and has never supported anything, even

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<v Speaker 9>when he was a Democrat and he was in the

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<v Speaker 9>end crowd and hanging out with jay Z. He's never

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<v Speaker 9>really been someone that we should trust and get behind.

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<v Speaker 9>But yet so many of us are still willing to

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<v Speaker 9>support this man, and I just don't understand why when

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<v Speaker 9>he's clearly showing us that if he gets re elected again,

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<v Speaker 9>we might as well be reporting to the nearest white person.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, thank you for that bad question, Joyce.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to just start out with right kick because

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<v Speaker 1>you guys and say the math eight math in here, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>there is no large enough constituency of black men supporting

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump that could swing this election either way.

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<v Speaker 6>When you look at the map of where black voters.

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<v Speaker 1>Live, it is just not I mean, if we want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about people who are supporting Donald Trump, the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest number is white people. It's conservative white voters. In

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<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen, most white blue collar voters supported Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 6>In Michigan. We just had a primary there.

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<v Speaker 1>And there although the Union people they swung their support

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<v Speaker 1>to Donald Trump. The UAW endorsed President Biden, but they

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledge most of their members support Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 6>So it baffles me.

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<v Speaker 1>While the media is constantly pushing this storyline as though

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<v Speaker 1>black men could hand the presidency to Donald Trump, is

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<v Speaker 1>just not true and I hate that storyline. So I

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<v Speaker 1>take your point, Joyce, because you probably see that on

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<v Speaker 1>social media, you probably see it on cable news. But

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<v Speaker 1>there is not a large number of black men supporting

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump. There are some, but not a large enough

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<v Speaker 1>number that they could hand this presidency to Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>But my co hosts may have different thoughts, So what

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<v Speaker 1>do you guys.

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<v Speaker 5>I just want us to be really careful about how

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<v Speaker 5>we throw people's names into things. She said that he

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<v Speaker 5>was hanging out with jay Z, and I would like

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<v Speaker 5>for her to tell me when and where that happened.

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<v Speaker 5>Jay Z's been consistent in his criticism of Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 5>When Donald Trump said that we come from shithole countries,

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<v Speaker 5>jay Z said that that was unnecessary and hurtful. When

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<v Speaker 5>he was talking about his presidency overall, he said, and

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<v Speaker 5>I quote, he's bringing out an ugly side of America

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<v Speaker 5>that we wanted to believe was gone. Like, I'm just

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<v Speaker 5>trying to understand when we decide like who's doing what

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<v Speaker 5>and why and on this you know, at the same time,

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<v Speaker 5>we have someone who I love. I love Joey Krack,

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<v Speaker 5>I love Fat Joe. But he's saying, on one side,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't support Donald Trump, but on the other hand,

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<v Speaker 5>he's waving a Trump sneaker online, Like some of that

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<v Speaker 5>stuff is not helpful. But I also want us to

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<v Speaker 5>be very careful and cautious with our words, and I

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<v Speaker 5>want us to also be careful with our influence. We

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<v Speaker 5>can do all of those things. And I think that

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<v Speaker 5>what is sad is you have and we've talked about

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<v Speaker 5>already on this show show. We have fifty cent talk

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<v Speaker 5>about maybe Trump got it right on the migrant crisis.

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<v Speaker 5>He ended up sitting down with people who we know,

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<v Speaker 5>some of whom we love as well, and he of

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<v Speaker 5>course corrected after a conversation as well with Eric Adams.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's fine to express your frustration, but beware of

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<v Speaker 5>the influence you carry and know that people are going

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<v Speaker 5>to follow suit. When they think that you're frustrated enough

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<v Speaker 5>and you throw Trump's name in it, they might think

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<v Speaker 5>that is a vote.

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<v Speaker 2>They may not want to engage. I just brought up

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<v Speaker 2>a reason in the last portion.

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<v Speaker 5>If they don't trust politicians, but they trust you because

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<v Speaker 5>you've always shown up for them.

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<v Speaker 2>You sound like them, you grew up like them.

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<v Speaker 5>Be very careful and mindful of the platform you carry

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<v Speaker 5>and how you use that thing. And at the same time,

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<v Speaker 5>just because one rapper did it, don't mean all rappers

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<v Speaker 5>did it. So let's not throw that at the feet

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<v Speaker 5>of everybody. That is ain't cool and it ain't right.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that is so important, and really quickly because

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<v Speaker 1>share responsibly. Just because you see something somebody wrote something

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<v Speaker 1>like make sure verify your sources, seek information from reliable,

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<v Speaker 1>responsible sources. And Will just pointed out we have no

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<v Speaker 1>record of jay Z standing with Trump or endorsing Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>presidency and some of these to your point, right, is

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<v Speaker 1>that we have not seen anything like that. So so again,

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<v Speaker 1>when you say things like that, it's important to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that you're accurate. And I just want to point

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<v Speaker 1>out to the point of fat Joe, I echo everything

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<v Speaker 1>you said, Angela. Fat Joe is obviously in the Puerto

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<v Speaker 1>Rican community. I believe he lives in Florida. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>solid red state. Fat Joe holding the Trump sneaker is

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<v Speaker 1>not going to win the election for Donald Trump. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think Angela makes a good point Andrew in that influence,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that you know, Listen, most black people,

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<v Speaker 1>I just hate that, like we that the media reduces

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<v Speaker 1>black men like they're gonna see Fat Joe holding a

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<v Speaker 1>sneaker and if they're.

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<v Speaker 6>Gona vote for Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>Most people are not looking to gen X rappers for

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<v Speaker 1>how they're going to vote.

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<v Speaker 6>But I don't want us to buy. They're looking at

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<v Speaker 6>like I don't want.

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<v Speaker 1>To donate to his I don't want to donate to

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<v Speaker 1>his legal donate to exactly. But we're looking at these

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<v Speaker 1>rappers like you look a You look a fool when

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<v Speaker 1>you when you stand.

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<v Speaker 6>We're looking at you like.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right. That's just real quick for joy I think

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<v Speaker 4>she was saying. She was saying, even though he stood

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<v Speaker 4>next to and and engage with with jay Z and

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<v Speaker 4>she listened to some others did not.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't even want us to say that that did

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<v Speaker 5>not happen. But it did not happen. That's why you

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<v Speaker 5>didn't see it. It has never happened.

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<v Speaker 4>I get it what I think she's referring to. For instance,

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<v Speaker 4>just like you've seen the Clintons in the same place

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<v Speaker 4>location where Donald Trump has been, maybe there were New

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<v Speaker 4>York events. Because she is in New York, she may

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<v Speaker 4>have seen them at the same place and thought that

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<v Speaker 4>they were. So I just want to I'll put that

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<v Speaker 4>in its own perspective. But I agree with you, Angela.

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<v Speaker 4>If it were sit down meeting and a pat on

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<v Speaker 4>the back and you go do this, that ain't happen.

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<v Speaker 4>We haven't seen that. But I will say you're your

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<v Speaker 4>Your comment around the celebrity piece really hits close to

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<v Speaker 4>me because I do think that they have the influence

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<v Speaker 4>to help move people to the polls, keep them from

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<v Speaker 4>the poles potentially, and maybe and shape ower person may vote.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know for sure, but I will say this, y'all.

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<v Speaker 4>Celebrities largely got more money, more resources, live in a

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<v Speaker 4>different world than you and I get to live in.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I don't think it's beyond the pale for

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<v Speaker 4>people who are wealthy in this country to be lightweight

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<v Speaker 4>side with Trump here or there. Possibly, I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>for a fact, but possibly, but know that they are

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<v Speaker 4>motivated by different set of reasons, then you might be

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<v Speaker 4>motivated when you go to the polls. Furthermore, if Trump

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<v Speaker 4>is using selling Hawking some plastic orange or yellow slash

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<v Speaker 4>gold and pale sneakers as his entree into the black community,

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<v Speaker 4>and why you ought to vote for him, or if

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<v Speaker 4>he's he's he's pitching you on the fact that he

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<v Speaker 4>got a mugshot and therefore we ought to be in

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<v Speaker 4>solidary andrew with him. They just know, y'all, that that

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<v Speaker 4>is the lowest hanging invisible fruit there ever is to

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<v Speaker 4>compel anybody to be for you. Which if you want

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<v Speaker 4>me as your voter, come to me with some public

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<v Speaker 4>policy that is going to alter my life in such

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<v Speaker 4>a way that I earn more that I am able

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<v Speaker 4>to start a business as a minority and get some

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<v Speaker 4>grant and loan assistance that takes it there. But this

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<v Speaker 4>this stuff that this man is doing as a way

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<v Speaker 4>to outreach to people of color, and more specifically black folk, y'all,

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<v Speaker 4>we are to all be outraged and insulted, but you

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<v Speaker 4>know what entree to us. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me well, before we go on, guys, I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to remind people what Donald Trump actually said. So

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<v Speaker 1>take a listen to what he believes is his appeal

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<v Speaker 1>to the black community.

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<v Speaker 10>We've all seen the mugshot, and you know who embraced

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<v Speaker 10>it more than anybody else, the black population.

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<v Speaker 5>It's incredible.

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<v Speaker 10>You see black people walking around with my monk shot.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, they do shirts and they sewn for nineteen

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<v Speaker 10>dollars apiece.

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<v Speaker 6>It's pretty amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>Angela, Listen, I'm gonna tell you something that's not gonna

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<v Speaker 5>be popper. We have a lot of people who are

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<v Speaker 5>motivated and inspired to go to the polls for some

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<v Speaker 5>really interesting reasons. There was a time in our electorate

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<v Speaker 5>where someone who appeared to be the first real shot

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<v Speaker 5>we had at a presidency after the ways, the many

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<v Speaker 5>ways in which Reverend Jackson paved the way right, But

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<v Speaker 5>we knew that that was even a long shot. Barack

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<v Speaker 5>Obama ran on hope and change, change we could believe in.

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<v Speaker 5>It wasn't substantive policy. It was the hope that America

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<v Speaker 5>could actually finally serve us. And then there are these

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<v Speaker 5>other folks and and and we have to be really

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<v Speaker 5>careful with like, well, rappers don't really move the needle.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a reason why there are surrogate operations in every campaign,

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<v Speaker 5>from the mayor to the governor to the president.

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<v Speaker 2>It does move the needle on some things.

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<v Speaker 5>I am insulted by the direction in which Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 5>has taken this thing, but I'm not going to be

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<v Speaker 5>intellectually dishonest and say that broad stroke themes don't work

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<v Speaker 5>to move bodies to the polls. Shame on him for

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<v Speaker 5>saying that his mugshot was enough to move a base.

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<v Speaker 5>But I think the real thing is, and this might

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<v Speaker 5>be a whole ass ted talk podcast that we need

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<v Speaker 5>to do to unravel it. There is something remarkable about

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<v Speaker 5>someone who can relate to the many challenges that we've had.

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<v Speaker 5>It is not Donald Trump, to be super clear, but

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<v Speaker 5>I think that it is highly worth considering. As someone

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<v Speaker 5>who is a student of political strategy. What it means

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<v Speaker 5>to find someone who is has been othered. What it

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<v Speaker 5>means to find someone who has had to pull themselves

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<v Speaker 5>up by their bootstraps after they found some boots that

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<v Speaker 5>they could actually afford.

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<v Speaker 2>What it means to.

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<v Speaker 5>Really like be one of the people who was ostracized

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<v Speaker 5>and not really allowed, you know what I mean? Like,

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<v Speaker 5>what does it mean to have this person who really

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<v Speaker 5>understands the plight of a community that has been so

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<v Speaker 5>marginalized despite our significant contribution. And I think there's language

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<v Speaker 5>at play that he has effectively used to reach some

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<v Speaker 5>of our folks who haven't felt heard in the process.

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<v Speaker 5>The problem is, I need y'all to understand what gas

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<v Speaker 5>lighting is. This isn't hope and change you can believe in.

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<v Speaker 5>This is someone who is praying on you. Not praying, praying,

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<v Speaker 5>pouncing on you where you've been most vulnerable, playing like

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<v Speaker 5>they understand what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever been in a relationship with a.

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<v Speaker 5>Dude who has never heard you and then all of

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<v Speaker 5>a sudden, when you're about to walk out that door,

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<v Speaker 5>the dude starts telling you everything you ever told him.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, you know, when you.

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<v Speaker 5>Said such and such and so and so, I feel

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<v Speaker 5>you I get it, I got you, I'm with you,

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<v Speaker 5>and they're all that, and then you're like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>he really gets it.

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<v Speaker 2>I finally feel heard.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you go back, why is Angela telling him? Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>but we gotta nail this so we get it right,

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<v Speaker 1>so we can see the demon coming.

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<v Speaker 6>That is what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 5>And then when he gets you, boo boo, he gonna say, actually,

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<v Speaker 5>you I am still the lawn order president.

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<v Speaker 2>Your ass going back to jail for nothing.

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<v Speaker 5>When he gets you, he's gonna say, I do still

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<v Speaker 5>think Harriet's ass deserves to be on a two dollar

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<v Speaker 5>bill and not a twenty. When he gets you, he

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<v Speaker 5>is gonna say, I do think you should be shared

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<v Speaker 5>cropping and not holding shares in this corporation. When he

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<v Speaker 5>gets you, he's gonna say, actually, grab them by the vagina,

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<v Speaker 5>don't let them have IVF, don't let them have an abortion.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't care if there was rape or incest involved.

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<v Speaker 5>And on top of that, fuck your birth control. That's

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<v Speaker 5>what we're dealing with. He's saying all the right things,

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<v Speaker 5>but he's doing it for all the wrong reasons. He

0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 5>hope your ass stays at home. He hopes you go

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<v Speaker 5>to the polls and votes for him. He hopes you

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<v Speaker 5>get a Nigga for Trump t shirt and then you

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<v Speaker 5>are booboo the fool. And I don't think that we're

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<v Speaker 5>that dumb. Prove me right that we're not that dumb.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't cussed, I didn't got in trouble with my

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<v Speaker 5>pastor my mom and daddy and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was necessary. A lot of people listen to

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast who ain't bad about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew was a bishop today now all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a question for you guys, though, because this

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<v Speaker 1>is a point of disagreement, and I may be the

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<v Speaker 1>cheese may stand alone here because Andrew you made this point.

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<v Speaker 1>Angela made this point. Andrew you're saying celebrities have an influence.

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<v Speaker 1>Angela you're saying rappers can sway people. I am trying

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<v Speaker 1>to think if I've ever been moved by a celebrity

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<v Speaker 1>on a policy of position.

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<v Speaker 6>You know that not.

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<v Speaker 7>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 11>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>So that's my question, like who is the population? You

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<v Speaker 1>guys think, who is almost everybody? But the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>this nuance point when I don't know about that, because

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<v Speaker 1>the reason why this is such an important point because

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<v Speaker 1>I think the media gets this wrong so much. My

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<v Speaker 1>grandmama wasn't never moved by a celebrity. My unts weren't

0:30:56.080 --> 0:30:57.920
<v Speaker 1>never moved. But there are To your point, If you

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<v Speaker 1>guys are saying that, I just wonder who are these people?

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<v Speaker 1>And I want our viewers when you guys listen to

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<v Speaker 1>this and way in do you know people who are

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<v Speaker 1>moved by rappers or celebrity? Have you ever been swayed

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<v Speaker 1>by a rapper or celebrity on how you cat celebrity?

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<v Speaker 6>I agree now I'm just hearing this.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I think yes they do have. Angela mentioned

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<v Speaker 4>the fact that there is an operation side of every

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<v Speaker 4>campaign that has ever run that is likely been successful.

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<v Speaker 4>Where you have Sarah Getz who come and they do

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<v Speaker 4>it for a number of reasons, one of which they

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<v Speaker 4>want press.

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<v Speaker 6>But are theyties?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean my campaign did it. I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 4>we had everybody who would come, everybody, and in part

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<v Speaker 4>because we knew that different people took their marching orders,

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<v Speaker 4>took their influence from different folks. I am not for everybody, Angela,

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:46.800
<v Speaker 4>you are not for everybody. Tiffany, you are not for everybody.

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:51.200
<v Speaker 4>We are not even as wide diverse and divergent opinions

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<v Speaker 4>as we may have as as as I think model

0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:58.280
<v Speaker 4>a person. The both of you are different. Folks look

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<v Speaker 4>different places to get influence, and they find to find influence.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's why there's an influencer culture, because we know

0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:07.600
<v Speaker 4>that there are folks who do things based off of

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<v Speaker 4>what other people say. That said, Angela, your points were brilliant,

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<v Speaker 4>And the only thing I have to say is that

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<v Speaker 4>I think if he is communicating, if he is that

0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:19.240
<v Speaker 4>man that you're about to walk away from, who then

0:32:19.280 --> 0:32:23.200
<v Speaker 4>starts viewing the right things as if it's been there always,

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:26.920
<v Speaker 4>he didn't do a good job at spewing it. I'm

0:32:26.960 --> 0:32:33.520
<v Speaker 4>talking Donald Trump, just the overwhelmingly obvious tokenizing way in

0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:36.240
<v Speaker 4>which he does and says what he says. Because I

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:39.080
<v Speaker 4>agree with you, Angela, I opened myself up to a

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<v Speaker 4>whole new round of people after being indicted. I didn't

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:45.120
<v Speaker 4>know it was a thing, but there were people who said, man,

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<v Speaker 4>I wish you were governor, and I wish you had

0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:48.440
<v Speaker 4>done that thing, and this is that and a third

0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 4>But bruh, you know, you now know what the man

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<v Speaker 4>does and what they do, and you're not fool and

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<v Speaker 4>so it signaled something different. However, I had and unpacked

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<v Speaker 4>of conversation about the for larger the criminal justice reform,

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<v Speaker 4>because it shouldn't be that you've got to hire a

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<v Speaker 4>million dollar lawyer and be a former elected official and

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<v Speaker 4>a former you know, a party leader to be able

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<v Speaker 4>to fight back against a system that trounces on us

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<v Speaker 4>every single day. Right, this man didn't do that. He

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<v Speaker 4>just said I got a mug shot and mugshot and

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<v Speaker 4>y'all ought to be with me. The blacks are out

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<v Speaker 4>there with me because my face because I went to

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<v Speaker 4>I have a mug shot. That's not sincere. It is

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<v Speaker 4>nothing but tokenizing. And for those who buy that bait,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe you get what you deserve. But the problem is

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<v Speaker 4>if you're getting what you desider, I'm sorry, but you

0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:43.400
<v Speaker 4>getting what you deserve puts your foot on my neck

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<v Speaker 4>and that of my children and my children's children. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>that's why it's so important that we take this thing

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<v Speaker 4>for real and for serious, because it ain't just about you.

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<v Speaker 4>The implications will impact you, please believe, because everything Angela

0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:58.760
<v Speaker 4>said is right, but it's going to impact more than

0:33:58.880 --> 0:34:01.720
<v Speaker 4>just You can limpack the communities and the people you

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<v Speaker 4>care about the most.

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<v Speaker 1>Really quick on well, speaking of impacting the community, I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to say under the Trump administration, because you

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<v Speaker 1>talked about cj our criminal justice reform in a day,

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:15.800
<v Speaker 1>his ag at the time, Jeff Sessions brought back mandates

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<v Speaker 1>and that was a huge thing that devastated the black community.

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<v Speaker 1>I also just want to make the point that when

0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:25.360
<v Speaker 1>you guys are saying celebrities as validators, I think community

0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:27.759
<v Speaker 1>validators can also be your book for it can also

0:34:27.840 --> 0:34:29.920
<v Speaker 1>be your sororities of your friend brothers.

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<v Speaker 11>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just wonder I really want to hear from

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<v Speaker 1>the audience.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you don't want to hear it from me

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<v Speaker 2>no more.

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<v Speaker 5>But I got one more thing on the Syriaca just

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<v Speaker 5>because we went I know we went a lot longer

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<v Speaker 5>on this, but I think it is yea, it should

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<v Speaker 5>be something that we unpacked point by point on another pod,

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<v Speaker 5>but surrogate operations aren't because that person in and of

0:34:49.360 --> 0:34:51.880
<v Speaker 5>themselves saying I'm going to do this, therefore you better.

0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:55.319
<v Speaker 5>Although it might if Beyonce goes and says I'm going

0:34:55.360 --> 0:34:57.920
<v Speaker 5>to do this, therefore you better, maybe it moves bodies

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<v Speaker 5>to the polls. She did it with Bejo. It didn't

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<v Speaker 5>work all.

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<v Speaker 2>The way, but maybe if she was any.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's true, but it you know, but we had

0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 5>a concert for you the night before the election, and

0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:10.640
<v Speaker 5>people still went to vote for you, Andrew in the rain,

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<v Speaker 5>you know what I'm saying. So like, there are people

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<v Speaker 5>when that that have the function of moving bodies to

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<v Speaker 5>the polls. But you know what, I think the bigger

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:21.840
<v Speaker 5>purpose of a surrogate operation is to bring in people

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<v Speaker 5>to do no harm. There are people that stepped out

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<v Speaker 5>against Andrew. I will never forget Luke Campbell.

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<v Speaker 2>And it wasn't against you. It was for yep.

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<v Speaker 5>It was for the mayor of my It was in

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<v Speaker 5>Miami Beach, yeah, Levine, Yeah all right. And I was

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<v Speaker 5>so like, how could you do this when a black

0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:44.440
<v Speaker 5>man was running? Luke said he didn't know Andrew was running.

0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:46.759
<v Speaker 5>That couldn't could indeed have been the case. Andrew was

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:49.279
<v Speaker 5>running on a shoe string budget in the primary. He

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:52.279
<v Speaker 5>was making it happen. But I do think that the

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<v Speaker 5>most important thing that a surrogate operation could have is

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<v Speaker 5>a provision of doing no harm, bringing enough people to

0:35:57.440 --> 0:35:59.920
<v Speaker 5>do no harm to get educated about it. So when not,

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:02.320
<v Speaker 5>since it's put on social media, they're in a position

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<v Speaker 5>to push back a little bit. That is I think

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<v Speaker 5>the initial purpose of serrogus, but they do move bodies

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<v Speaker 5>not only to the polls, but to do no harm.

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<v Speaker 4>And since you bought it, and I think that's tweeted

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<v Speaker 4>this past week.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes he did what he said. Trump, he said tump,

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<v Speaker 2>though I need somebody to spell.

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<v Speaker 1>We all go from this point on, ain't and look

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<v Speaker 1>at these look at these questions I want because so

0:36:37.120 --> 0:36:39.879
<v Speaker 1>many people waited in a lot of people have things

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<v Speaker 1>that they wanted President Biden to address in his State.

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<v Speaker 11>Of the Union.

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<v Speaker 4>Than by the way, I'm going.

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<v Speaker 6>To get those people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, thank you guys, Yes, let's roll that and then

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about it.

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<v Speaker 12>Native lamb Pod thank you so very much for this

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<v Speaker 12>called the action. I am Manny's millennium mouth, huge fan.

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<v Speaker 12>And what I want President Biden to address at the

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<v Speaker 12>State of Union is the fact that we're only two

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<v Speaker 12>months in twenty twenty four and already eight school shootings

0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:10.280
<v Speaker 12>have occurred, and every time the topic of gun control

0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:13.120
<v Speaker 12>is brought up, the pushback is from the people that

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<v Speaker 12>claim they are so pro life, and they'll say, what

0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:19.160
<v Speaker 12>about the protection as the Second Amendment? What about the

0:37:19.200 --> 0:37:23.759
<v Speaker 12>protection of our children? Parents are sending their children to

0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:26.600
<v Speaker 12>school to get an education, and instead they're getting a

0:37:26.600 --> 0:37:29.800
<v Speaker 12>healthy hospital bill or they're getting a funeral service.

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<v Speaker 2>You know why she picked this question, Andrew.

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<v Speaker 4>Because she's interviewing for the fourth Oh You.

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<v Speaker 2>Baby Park Atlanta Park at LANTAA.

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<v Speaker 4>How about shout out to OH every show. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>an honorary I'm an honorary doctor from Pluck Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 2>You really know.

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<v Speaker 4>I love it.

0:37:48.560 --> 0:37:49.040
<v Speaker 6>I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, c A Vonn and our brother. What do

0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:53.200
<v Speaker 1>you guys think about it? I do just want to

0:37:53.320 --> 0:37:55.760
<v Speaker 1>put a little news here. This week, the Supreme Court

0:37:55.920 --> 0:37:58.920
<v Speaker 1>is considering banning bump stocks. You guys remember of that

0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:04.800
<v Speaker 1>horrific shooting in Las Vegas. The Trump administration surprisingly issued

0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:07.280
<v Speaker 1>a ban on bump stocks. It's been banned since twenty eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a chance this week that the Supreme Court

0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:12.400
<v Speaker 1>could overturn that and reintroduce bump stocks into society. I

0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:14.279
<v Speaker 1>don't know why anybody would do that, but that is

0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:15.719
<v Speaker 1>happening this week. But what do you guys make of

0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:16.200
<v Speaker 1>his question?

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't really feel like he asked the question. I

0:38:18.080 --> 0:38:19.800
<v Speaker 5>think he told us exactly what he wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Back here.

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<v Speaker 4>Thought he was interviewing for the fourth co host, I'd

0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:24.160
<v Speaker 4>like him.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he was saying, what about the protection of the

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<v Speaker 1>Second Amendment? What about the protection of our children? How

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<v Speaker 1>but there are a lot of black people who you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there are plenty of black people who are Second Amendment advocates.

0:38:37.200 --> 0:38:39.799
<v Speaker 6>There are plenty of black gun a moment, can we

0:38:39.880 --> 0:38:40.920
<v Speaker 6>have both?

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<v Speaker 1>Especially in that Bible bell in the South, like my

0:38:43.560 --> 0:38:45.759
<v Speaker 1>uncles think, it's so strange that I live in the

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<v Speaker 1>house and I don't have.

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<v Speaker 6>A gun, and they're like, you have a gun. You

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<v Speaker 6>need a gun?

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<v Speaker 1>Right pop a ride look like he packing. So I

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<v Speaker 1>just wonder, but is there how do we balance that

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<v Speaker 1>with all this this gun violent school shooting And is

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<v Speaker 1>gun control legislation going to stop these mass shootings? I

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<v Speaker 1>believe it will. It will limit it. I don't know

0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:09.560
<v Speaker 1>that it will bring it to a speeching, not a hope.

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<v Speaker 4>But yes, what from the world, and there is not

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<v Speaker 4>another developed nation in the world that confronts the level

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<v Speaker 4>of gun violence incidents that we have here in the

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<v Speaker 4>United States in a single month of the year. We

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<v Speaker 4>can't find another country that has had that many violent

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<v Speaker 4>gun violence related incidents and mass shootings. Then a one

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<v Speaker 4>year analysis in their own countries. So there's something special,

0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:40.480
<v Speaker 4>particular and unique in this country about our gun toting

0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:46.320
<v Speaker 4>culture that is uncomparable, uncomparable to any other place in

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<v Speaker 4>the world. It is a problem. We all have to

0:39:48.480 --> 0:39:51.440
<v Speaker 4>know it now. Why it is that we have folks

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<v Speaker 4>in Washington, DC who are so entrenched, as the brother said,

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<v Speaker 4>who are so pro life, but don't care a thing

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<v Speaker 4>about life once it's out of the womb, care a

0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:04.680
<v Speaker 4>thing about it, right, do nothing to advance life beyond

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<v Speaker 4>the speaking point, the talking point, the political advantages of it.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'll just say, look no further than the humongous

0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:17.520
<v Speaker 4>lobby that exists for guns, largely the National Rifle Association,

0:40:18.040 --> 0:40:20.880
<v Speaker 4>the money that they put into campaigns and elections, and

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<v Speaker 4>you will get your answer, all right, money is the

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<v Speaker 4>guiding principle here. That's what they want, that's what they're after.

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<v Speaker 4>Many of these folks don't carry guns themselves, they don't

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<v Speaker 4>have them in their homes themselves. Yet they're out here

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<v Speaker 4>advocating what our founders and framers could have never conceived of.

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<v Speaker 4>And that look back then, if you shot a gun,

0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:44.640
<v Speaker 4>you had half a chance of shooting yourself. That was

0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:47.920
<v Speaker 4>the technology of the day. They did not consider that

0:40:47.960 --> 0:40:50.360
<v Speaker 4>you could have a gun then in a matter of seconds,

0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:54.359
<v Speaker 4>seconds could strike down twelve people. They never conceive.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, all right, Angela, you got another question for it.

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<v Speaker 3>I won't President Biden into it. Dress why he is

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<v Speaker 3>willing to give ninety five point three billion dollars to

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<v Speaker 3>Ukraine and Israel, ninety five point three billion of our

0:41:11.160 --> 0:41:15.640
<v Speaker 3>tax dollars to foreign countries instead of dealing with the problems.

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<v Speaker 4>That we have here at home.

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<v Speaker 6>We have student loan.

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<v Speaker 3>Crisis, we have an education crisis, we have an infrastructure crisis,

0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:26.000
<v Speaker 3>we have a healthcare crisis. We have black unemployment crisis,

0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:30.200
<v Speaker 3>we have a black wealth crisis. Do you realize that

0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:33.480
<v Speaker 3>ninety five point three billion dollars is the same as

0:41:33.520 --> 0:41:37.840
<v Speaker 3>given three million Americans thirty thousand dollars worth of relief

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<v Speaker 3>from their student loans.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't feel like he's asking a question. He's yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>he made it plain, he's super clear. It's a great proposal.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't mind it at all. I'm always for relief,

0:41:50.360 --> 0:41:53.440
<v Speaker 5>financial relief for our people we need it, and certainly

0:41:53.480 --> 0:41:56.000
<v Speaker 5>for reparations, even though this wasn't a reparation proposal. But

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<v Speaker 5>I think our folks did a great job of weighing

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<v Speaker 5>in with what they wanted to here from President by

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<v Speaker 5>and in the State of the Union address.

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully his team is taken note.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I'm but Andrew, what do you what do

0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:08.839
<v Speaker 1>you think about what he was saying about this aid

0:42:08.920 --> 0:42:11.440
<v Speaker 1>that we are look a big issue that we just

0:42:11.480 --> 0:42:14.640
<v Speaker 1>saw play out in the Michigan primary is we are

0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:17.680
<v Speaker 1>funding a lot of what we see the IDF doing

0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:20.839
<v Speaker 1>in Gaza and a lot of people feel very uncomfortable

0:42:20.840 --> 0:42:24.000
<v Speaker 1>with that. Do we think that will have an impact

0:42:24.320 --> 0:42:26.960
<v Speaker 1>in the general and what would what would he say

0:42:26.960 --> 0:42:29.080
<v Speaker 1>about that or what could he say about that during

0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:31.080
<v Speaker 1>the State of the Years to put maybe put the

0:42:31.080 --> 0:42:31.719
<v Speaker 1>people's at ease.

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<v Speaker 6>But I don't think people will.

0:42:32.840 --> 0:42:34.600
<v Speaker 4>I think he could say a lot, but it would

0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:37.600
<v Speaker 4>be more important that if his words would actually carry

0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:43.839
<v Speaker 4>sway with uh Benjamin Nett Yahoo versus basically going into

0:42:43.840 --> 0:42:48.040
<v Speaker 4>the ether and not really having an impact. We see

0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:52.360
<v Speaker 4>the country American taxpayers, of course funding has funded largely

0:42:52.480 --> 0:42:56.879
<v Speaker 4>Israel's security, UH sense its independence and and I don't.

0:42:56.920 --> 0:42:59.040
<v Speaker 4>I don't. I don't take issue with that at all.

0:42:59.480 --> 0:43:02.040
<v Speaker 4>And by the way, I think student loans and student

0:43:02.080 --> 0:43:04.360
<v Speaker 4>loan debt is an issue that out of stand on

0:43:04.400 --> 0:43:06.440
<v Speaker 4>its own two feet, and the President does have a

0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:08.319
<v Speaker 4>proposal in that regard, and what we have to worry

0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:10.879
<v Speaker 4>about is whether the Supreme Court is going to take

0:43:10.920 --> 0:43:14.399
<v Speaker 4>a machete hatchet to it and strip that program down

0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:17.719
<v Speaker 4>to the point that it doesn't exist unless the Congress

0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:21.719
<v Speaker 4>gets their act together and passes it. The one thing

0:43:21.760 --> 0:43:25.080
<v Speaker 4>that I neglected to say earlier when we talked about

0:43:25.200 --> 0:43:29.360
<v Speaker 4>the results in Michigan is that outside of Dearborn, Michigan,

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<v Speaker 4>where we have the largest concentration of Palestinian Americans, the

0:43:33.239 --> 0:43:36.560
<v Speaker 4>other constituency that is terribly shaken by watching what they

0:43:36.600 --> 0:43:39.720
<v Speaker 4>see happen on their TV screens over there are young people.

0:43:39.920 --> 0:43:42.240
<v Speaker 4>And I'm not talking about young people concentrated in Michigan.

0:43:42.360 --> 0:43:47.080
<v Speaker 4>I'm talking about young people everywhere around the country. They're

0:43:47.120 --> 0:43:49.840
<v Speaker 4>coming out on college campuses and the neighborhoods. And Justice's

0:43:49.880 --> 0:43:53.160
<v Speaker 4>brother did with the question to say, what are we doing?

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<v Speaker 4>They are acting as a matter of conscience, and young voters,

0:43:57.120 --> 0:43:59.920
<v Speaker 4>let me tell y'all, they ain't stupid. They don't have

0:44:00.200 --> 0:44:01.520
<v Speaker 4>told what to do, when to do, and so on

0:44:01.520 --> 0:44:04.239
<v Speaker 4>and so forth. For them, they are acting as a

0:44:04.239 --> 0:44:07.400
<v Speaker 4>matter of conscience, and they don't believe that conscience resides

0:44:07.520 --> 0:44:10.760
<v Speaker 4>in any one party by itself. They believe that conscience

0:44:10.800 --> 0:44:13.560
<v Speaker 4>resides based off of what you do, from action to

0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:17.279
<v Speaker 4>action to action to action. And so I feel that

0:44:17.800 --> 0:44:19.960
<v Speaker 4>and I just you know, I'm proud that they're engaged

0:44:20.000 --> 0:44:23.680
<v Speaker 4>and involved. And I hope that the President, frankly, is

0:44:23.719 --> 0:44:25.680
<v Speaker 4>able to deliver more than lip service in a state

0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:28.320
<v Speaker 4>of the Union such to the point that circumstances change

0:44:28.320 --> 0:44:28.880
<v Speaker 4>on the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, thank you guys for submitting all these questions.

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<v Speaker 1>We have one more coming right up after this break,

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<v Speaker 1>So don't go anywhere. We'll see you on the other side. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>our last question it comes from Akiva.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's see what Akiva has to say.

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<v Speaker 13>Hi, I'm Akiva, say and said, I'm a'ma Southern college

0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:56.000
<v Speaker 13>and we're in an africanis ultilodox class. And our question

0:44:56.040 --> 0:44:58.239
<v Speaker 13>today is how do we convince a single mother who's

0:44:58.239 --> 0:45:01.640
<v Speaker 13>TAKS sixteen hundred dollars client test creator is nice but

0:45:01.760 --> 0:45:03.920
<v Speaker 13>not sufficient for the young man with the felam in

0:45:03.920 --> 0:45:07.120
<v Speaker 13>conviction that the ability to vote or not get him housing, employment,

0:45:07.160 --> 0:45:10.000
<v Speaker 13>or restore his serenity. More importantly, how would you convince

0:45:10.080 --> 0:45:12.520
<v Speaker 13>those of us in college who see mountains of their

0:45:12.719 --> 0:45:14.959
<v Speaker 13>lower waste jobs and higher cost of living that voting

0:45:15.040 --> 0:45:17.480
<v Speaker 13>in this or in election will change the way we

0:45:17.560 --> 0:45:18.719
<v Speaker 13>currently see our futures.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, what do you think?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, what I say is the president should answer that

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<v Speaker 4>and and and through it and and by the way,

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<v Speaker 4>I think we'll have a good answer on a number

0:45:28.320 --> 0:45:30.760
<v Speaker 4>of those of those issues. But I think the broader point,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's well taken, it is that everyday, people who

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<v Speaker 4>go out and cast a vote expecting that their lives

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<v Speaker 4>are going to change, to shift in some really demonstrable

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<v Speaker 4>way as a result of having done so, expect to

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<v Speaker 4>see it happen. And the only the thing I would

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<v Speaker 4>add to it is it should happen. And in truth,

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<v Speaker 4>many of those issues can be addressed through public policy.

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<v Speaker 4>Problem is is that it takes a cooperative house, co

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<v Speaker 4>operative Senate, a president prepared to sign it and go

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<v Speaker 4>to bat for it. And that's just part of the process.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want anyone to walk away thinking that their

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<v Speaker 4>vote didn't matter or didn't count because their their thing

0:46:11.640 --> 0:46:14.799
<v Speaker 4>or one of their things didn't get cured over that

0:46:14.840 --> 0:46:18.080
<v Speaker 4>particular person's you know, time in office just know that

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<v Speaker 4>politics requires the long game, even though elections are every

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<v Speaker 4>two every four or so years. It requires not the

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<v Speaker 4>patience of job we ain't got, we ain't got to

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<v Speaker 4>wait for they long years. Uh, in a process that

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<v Speaker 4>that should be responsive, but it does sometimes take time.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't give up based off of of of of of

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<v Speaker 4>of unfulfilled efforts. It just means apply more pressure. And

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<v Speaker 4>guess what pressure bursts pipes, which is why it requires

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<v Speaker 4>our involvement in the process.

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<v Speaker 6>I love it. Thank you for that, Andrew.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna sympt us a little bit, uh and talk

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<v Speaker 1>about politics are everywhere because they are this week.

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<v Speaker 6>Here's the question where's the beef? I might I know

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not the only one to remember my commercial where's

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<v Speaker 6>the beef? Yes? Well, I got beef with Wendy's.

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<v Speaker 1>The fast food giant is expected to roll out serge pricing,

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<v Speaker 1>which is similar to what Uber does, so essentially, demand

0:47:19.080 --> 0:47:23.600
<v Speaker 1>will determine how much we pay for food the A

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<v Speaker 1>spokesperson for the company said this could start as early

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<v Speaker 1>as twenty twenty five, and they're going to be testing

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<v Speaker 1>a variety of enhanced features on digital menu boards like this.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta tell you, guys, I do not like this

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<v Speaker 1>at all. Well, this is why, because first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't eat a lot of fast food. But when

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<v Speaker 1>you consider where our people live, I think it's like

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<v Speaker 1>one out of every five black people live in a

0:47:45.719 --> 0:47:48.040
<v Speaker 1>food desert. So it's not like they got a whole

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<v Speaker 1>foods on the corner or fresh produce, you know, around

0:47:51.160 --> 0:47:54.000
<v Speaker 1>the block. And so sometimes their meals come from these

0:47:54.040 --> 0:47:58.200
<v Speaker 1>convenience stores or bodegas or fast food chains. And then

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at the well gap and how that

0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:04.000
<v Speaker 1>packs our people, Black communities are more likely to face hunger.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think at twenty two nearly twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>percent of black people in this country, in this very

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<v Speaker 1>wealthy country, experienced food and security.

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<v Speaker 6>And so this just to me seems like corporate greed.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like it at all. I think nearly nine

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<v Speaker 1>million black people cannot have no access to a healthy

0:48:25.560 --> 0:48:30.040
<v Speaker 1>lifestyle restaurant, et cetera. So we were talking about this

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<v Speaker 1>in our group chat, and our good friend doctor Jason

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson said, well, the employees get paid more during those

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<v Speaker 1>those times, and right, it just I don't know, And

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<v Speaker 1>there was some reporting today.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know if you guys saw this.

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<v Speaker 1>It was about Family Dollar and they were fined forty

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<v Speaker 1>one point six million dollars because they were storing food

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<v Speaker 1>in places that were rat infested and selling it to

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<v Speaker 1>customers and people knew about it, and they just did it.

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<v Speaker 1>And so this just seems like another way to crush

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<v Speaker 1>our people.

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<v Speaker 6>I just don't like it, do you guys have?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'm just saying so. The CEO of the

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<v Speaker 4>company says they detest the word surge. They don't mean

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<v Speaker 4>the comparison between them and Uber. In fact, they didn't

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<v Speaker 4>even mean higher prices. I just want the CEO to

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<v Speaker 4>use the word that they preferred was dynamic. They said

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<v Speaker 4>their proposal is dynamic pricing. And I'd like the CEO

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<v Speaker 4>to just use the word dynamic pricing in a sentence,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe a few sentences, so that we could get a

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<v Speaker 4>better understanding of you didn't mean higher prices at different

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<v Speaker 4>times or lower prices at different times, then what is

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<v Speaker 4>what exactly is dynamic pricing? Please? And by the way,

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<v Speaker 4>to Wendy's Twitter, when I used to read it, it

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<v Speaker 4>used to be off the chain, very you know, very

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<v Speaker 4>direct and honest. I don't know what they're saying about this,

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<v Speaker 4>but y'all got to correct this thing real quick because

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what dynamic pricing means.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, nobody does, and they say it isn't. This is

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<v Speaker 1>according to their spokesperson who told us a Fox UH

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<v Speaker 1>Business reporter AI enabled H. Well, what they say is

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<v Speaker 1>AI enabled menu changes and suggestive selling based on factors

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<v Speaker 1>such as weather. So this is another area where AI

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<v Speaker 1>will influence even our food product. I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's a bigger deal than I think they are

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<v Speaker 1>making it. But Wendy CEO Kirk Tanner announced this on

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<v Speaker 1>an earnings call. So I just want to say I

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<v Speaker 1>do not use it as a sentence.

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<v Speaker 4>Use it in a sentence.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, let's move on.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to take us back to the dirty, dirty,

0:50:37.480 --> 0:50:41.040
<v Speaker 1>the dirty South UH and talk about what is happening

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<v Speaker 1>with these attacks on DEI. I want to give a

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<v Speaker 1>shout out to the good brother Randall woodfin down there.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me first tell you all what the story is.

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<v Speaker 1>So there is a bill that passed in the Senate

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<v Speaker 1>that will essentially kill any DEI funding state funding to

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<v Speaker 1>go to schools, So any de I programs, they won't exist.

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<v Speaker 1>Now take a listen to why Senator Barfoot, who is

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<v Speaker 1>a Republican obviously who says why this is problematic.

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<v Speaker 14>Those offices that would be abolished in this legislation certainly

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<v Speaker 14>are some of the office that we're promoting the divisive

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<v Speaker 14>type concepts.

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<v Speaker 6>So he's saying, DEI is divisive.

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<v Speaker 1>Mayor Randall wood find he's mayor of Birmingham, a Moorhouse

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<v Speaker 1>College alum a member.

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<v Speaker 6>Of Alpha Phi Alpha.

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<v Speaker 1>He said on social media that if state lawmakers passed

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<v Speaker 1>this bill barring diversity, equity and inclusion programs in state's

0:51:32.840 --> 0:51:35.600
<v Speaker 1>public schools and universities, he would encourage parents of minority

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<v Speaker 1>student athletes to select colleges and states where diversity and

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<v Speaker 1>inclusion are prioritized. This is a huge way for young

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<v Speaker 1>people to exercise their power. Andrew, a lot of athletes

0:51:47.640 --> 0:51:50.040
<v Speaker 1>come out of Florida. It's a big football town. I'm

0:51:50.080 --> 0:51:51.040
<v Speaker 1>curious your thoughts on this.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes we had like a town but yeah, Firth, good state.

0:51:54.480 --> 0:51:58.239
<v Speaker 4>We have some town mentalities sometimes. But you know, the

0:51:58.320 --> 0:52:02.920
<v Speaker 4>point by Mayor wood Fin is well taken. And we

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<v Speaker 4>know that we know that the self produces a great

0:52:05.680 --> 0:52:11.040
<v Speaker 4>number of athletes. We know what percentage black athletes, black

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<v Speaker 4>men particularly and black women take up in the various

0:52:14.280 --> 0:52:18.040
<v Speaker 4>fields of sport, and it could be used as a

0:52:18.280 --> 0:52:22.680
<v Speaker 4>real leverage should folks collectively decide, you know, decide to

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<v Speaker 4>do so. I would just say the diversity and equity,

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<v Speaker 4>equity and inclusion is becoming a bad word. And if

0:52:29.600 --> 0:52:32.680
<v Speaker 4>we don't figure out a strategy very quick, fasten in

0:52:32.719 --> 0:52:36.680
<v Speaker 4>a hurry to help put into contexts the ways in

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<v Speaker 4>which if you aren't thinking about us, if you are

0:52:39.520 --> 0:52:42.839
<v Speaker 4>not talking about us, then we are not a consideration.

0:52:44.040 --> 0:52:47.520
<v Speaker 4>If we don't call out the ways in which these

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<v Speaker 4>disparities exist and then create ways to close that gap.

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<v Speaker 4>The only thing I can take away from you is

0:52:54.120 --> 0:52:56.880
<v Speaker 4>that gap doesn't matter to you. And that's what these

0:52:57.000 --> 0:52:59.960
<v Speaker 4>legislators are trying to communicate. That gap doesn't matter to them.

0:53:00.120 --> 0:53:02.759
<v Speaker 4>It's never mattered to them when these who came after

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<v Speaker 4>George Floyd. Let me tell you, it of course matters.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm saying for those folks who are putting in place

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<v Speaker 4>like in my state, an end, a ceasing of diversity

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<v Speaker 4>and inclusion programs, funding targeting in that direction, the ending

0:53:18.719 --> 0:53:21.080
<v Speaker 4>and obliteration of affirmative action, and so on and so forth.

0:53:21.320 --> 0:53:23.480
<v Speaker 4>If you don't count it, it doesn't exist.

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<v Speaker 5>But it matters to them. The reason why they're trying

0:53:26.840 --> 0:53:28.920
<v Speaker 5>to stop it is because it matters to them. They're

0:53:29.000 --> 0:53:30.399
<v Speaker 5>afraid of it. Do you see what I'm saying.

0:53:30.760 --> 0:53:33.680
<v Speaker 4>They are afraid we are so what I'm saying, they

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<v Speaker 4>don't want it because it doesn't as far as the

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<v Speaker 4>priority is there concerned.

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<v Speaker 2>It matters to them.

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<v Speaker 5>And let me tell you how much it matters to

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<v Speaker 5>them that they would go even further in Senate Bill

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<v Speaker 5>one twenty nine further than the Stopwoke Act in Florida

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<v Speaker 5>to expand divisive concepts to include funding and recognition even

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<v Speaker 5>for a black student union, that they would go that

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<v Speaker 5>they would go so far as to say, and this

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<v Speaker 5>I think is consistent with Florida's HB seven that any

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<v Speaker 5>author who expresses that they feel complicit in past wrongs

0:54:08.080 --> 0:54:13.799
<v Speaker 5>because of their identity or historical documents demonstrating historical perspectives

0:54:13.840 --> 0:54:17.960
<v Speaker 5>on race, gender, or class, those readings, essays, books, and

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<v Speaker 5>films would be prohibited. They cannot assign them. They don't

0:54:22.200 --> 0:54:24.360
<v Speaker 5>even want to talk about like slavery.

0:54:24.440 --> 0:54:25.040
<v Speaker 2>What slavery?

0:54:25.200 --> 0:54:28.200
<v Speaker 5>That's just we were all roommates living together, being fed well,

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<v Speaker 5>sleeping well, and sharing the same land, just working on

0:54:31.080 --> 0:54:32.400
<v Speaker 5>it for fas Joe didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Want to say dow here that if you call a

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<v Speaker 4>person a racist that you can be sue for liable.

0:54:37.320 --> 0:54:40.319
<v Speaker 5>Yes, yes, I'm what I'm saying is and so if

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<v Speaker 5>I know how frustrating HB seven and the impacts of

0:54:44.120 --> 0:54:46.200
<v Speaker 5>it in Florida have been to you, I'm telling you

0:54:46.600 --> 0:54:48.920
<v Speaker 5>how the BAMA made it bigger. So one of the

0:54:49.000 --> 0:54:51.600
<v Speaker 5>things that my dad has been saying for many years

0:54:51.960 --> 0:54:55.680
<v Speaker 5>is that he is eager to see athletes not just

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<v Speaker 5>when they're existing and making money for the schools in

0:54:58.800 --> 0:55:03.319
<v Speaker 5>the races South Confederate South, but also the schools who

0:55:04.440 --> 0:55:08.879
<v Speaker 5>exist in covert practices of racism even in the North.

0:55:08.920 --> 0:55:10.880
<v Speaker 5>He's like, all of these black athletes need to go

0:55:10.960 --> 0:55:13.480
<v Speaker 5>to HBCUs. This is why he's called for that for

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<v Speaker 5>so many years. Senate Bill one twenty nine is horrible.

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<v Speaker 5>I Mayor wood Finn, you know I reached out to

0:55:19.040 --> 0:55:20.880
<v Speaker 5>you and asked for a video. This is why I

0:55:20.960 --> 0:55:22.640
<v Speaker 5>knew we were going to talk about on this podcast.

0:55:22.680 --> 0:55:24.960
<v Speaker 5>We talked about it on the Breakfast Club. It's major.

0:55:25.040 --> 0:55:27.839
<v Speaker 5>I would love to see the African American mayor's associations

0:55:27.920 --> 0:55:30.719
<v Speaker 5>stand together with him in this The CBC to stand

0:55:30.760 --> 0:55:33.719
<v Speaker 5>together with him in this. For the one governor, we

0:55:33.840 --> 0:55:36.080
<v Speaker 5>got Wes Moore to stand with him in this, and

0:55:36.200 --> 0:55:39.000
<v Speaker 5>hopefully we can get some things move in a different way. Andrew,

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<v Speaker 5>I think you said earlier in another way, but DJ

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<v Speaker 5>Quick said it best. If it don't make dollars, it

0:55:42.840 --> 0:55:44.880
<v Speaker 5>don't make sense. We need to make sure that we

0:55:45.080 --> 0:55:49.080
<v Speaker 5>take our dollars somewhere else because they're not respecting our person.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a remix on doctor King.

0:55:51.120 --> 0:55:51.520
<v Speaker 4>That's real.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I just put into context the dollars. This is

0:55:55.080 --> 0:55:56.839
<v Speaker 1>according to the latest reporting. It's kind of I think

0:55:56.880 --> 0:55:58.879
<v Speaker 1>it's from twenty seventeen, so it's probably more. But about

0:55:58.880 --> 0:56:01.920
<v Speaker 1>twenty six percent of the popular Alabama is black. Eleven

0:56:02.000 --> 0:56:04.959
<v Speaker 1>percent of the students at the University of Alabama are black.

0:56:05.200 --> 0:56:09.040
<v Speaker 1>In twenty seventeen, about eighty percent of the starters of

0:56:09.200 --> 0:56:12.600
<v Speaker 1>the twenty seven seventeen football team were black. The head

0:56:12.640 --> 0:56:15.520
<v Speaker 1>coach at the time, who you guys know, Nick Staban.

0:56:15.760 --> 0:56:18.759
<v Speaker 1>He was the highest paid employee on campus, earning more

0:56:18.800 --> 0:56:22.359
<v Speaker 1>than eleven million dollars annually. The next three highest paid

0:56:22.400 --> 0:56:26.040
<v Speaker 1>individuals at the university were assistant coaches, all white. The

0:56:26.120 --> 0:56:29.000
<v Speaker 1>football players were not paid, so they are willing to

0:56:29.160 --> 0:56:31.840
<v Speaker 1>profit off our bodies, a very American thing to do,

0:56:32.400 --> 0:56:38.120
<v Speaker 1>but not prioritize our equality and inclusion. Another thing, Angelo,

0:56:38.440 --> 0:56:41.439
<v Speaker 1>to your point about the legislative body and the roles

0:56:41.480 --> 0:56:47.040
<v Speaker 1>that we play. When Scotus struck down affirmative action, they

0:56:47.160 --> 0:56:50.800
<v Speaker 1>made a key exception for the military. I thought that

0:56:50.960 --> 0:56:55.440
<v Speaker 1>was very telling. It's okay to consider quotas as they

0:56:55.480 --> 0:56:57.879
<v Speaker 1>would call it for the military. And I, just as

0:56:57.920 --> 0:57:01.200
<v Speaker 1>we close on this topic, want to say what Justice

0:57:01.320 --> 0:57:04.359
<v Speaker 1>Kontanji Brown Jackson observed, the Court has come to rest

0:57:04.440 --> 0:57:07.000
<v Speaker 1>on the bottom line conclusion that racial diversity and higher

0:57:07.120 --> 0:57:10.120
<v Speaker 1>education is only worth potentially preserving in so far as

0:57:10.160 --> 0:57:13.040
<v Speaker 1>it might be needed to prepare Black Americans and other

0:57:13.320 --> 0:57:16.600
<v Speaker 1>underrepresented minorities for success in the bunker, not.

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<v Speaker 6>In the boardroom.

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<v Speaker 1>So we got a lot of work. Were still in

0:57:19.680 --> 0:57:22.160
<v Speaker 1>the fight. Were still in the fight, y'all, Still in

0:57:22.240 --> 0:57:24.960
<v Speaker 1>the fight. All right, let's take a quick break. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be right back after this break. All right, Welcome back, everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome home, y'all. Native Lampard. I'm kicking it to our

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<v Speaker 1>resident attorney. She's an occasional medicine woman because she sent

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<v Speaker 1>me a care package, but she's gonna put her attorney

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<v Speaker 1>hat on Angela. I you know, I am not as

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<v Speaker 1>vested in this funny case as you. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>know what the ladies is in this case, and I avested,

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<v Speaker 1>but I hate that it's about her. I'm like, is

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<v Speaker 1>he is still the person who broke He.

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<v Speaker 2>Is still the person that broke both the law and

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<v Speaker 2>it's not a whole case. She's not on trials. There

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<v Speaker 2>is a fearing about her conduct. So I want us

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<v Speaker 2>to be very you know, I'm very serious about being careful.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, they're trying to make like that. I have to

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<v Speaker 6>be better with my words and more responsible. This is

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<v Speaker 6>a hearing. She is not on trials. She did not

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<v Speaker 6>break a law.

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<v Speaker 1>It is not the only thing broke. It is to

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<v Speaker 1>see if she can right. You're not sure, Well, they're

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<v Speaker 1>not even. The question isn't even if she broke. If

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<v Speaker 1>she perjured herself, we have a challenge. If she perjured herself,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a significant challenge.

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<v Speaker 5>But nonetheless, the question at hand is whether or not

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<v Speaker 5>Fannie Willis and the Fulton County DA's Office writ large

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<v Speaker 5>will be disqualified from prosecuting Donald Trump and his eighteen

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<v Speaker 5>co defendants.

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<v Speaker 2>It's nerve wracking. You don't want any distraction.

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<v Speaker 5>You want this thing to go forward, because you were like,

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<v Speaker 5>let's just get to the testimony, let's present all the evidence.

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<v Speaker 5>But right now, the only evidence that anybody's considering is

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<v Speaker 5>what when Nathan Wade went to her house for the

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<v Speaker 5>first time, when they started texting, what they were texting.

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<v Speaker 5>That's likely to come up later on this week. By

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<v Speaker 5>the time this pod airs, they'll be prepping for that,

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<v Speaker 5>and apparently Nathan Wade's business partner, Terrence Bradley, was on

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<v Speaker 5>the stand on Tuesday, and right now we're going to

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<v Speaker 5>take a listen.

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<v Speaker 11>That's a simple question, mister Bradley, you're a lawyer. Did

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<v Speaker 11>you lie to miss Merchant when you told her facts

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<v Speaker 11>about mister Wade and missus Willis's relationship, Not.

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<v Speaker 15>That I recall. I don't recall. I mentioned earlier that

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<v Speaker 15>I speculated on some things. I've testified to what I

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<v Speaker 15>did know, so I can't recall whether or.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 11>Mister Bradley's speculation is kind of a weasily lawyer word.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's speak truth here that you're under a the argumented it.

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<v Speaker 4>At this point, you're on a relevant question, mister.

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<v Speaker 6>Brads find the question, mister Russ, mister.

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<v Speaker 11>Bradley, when you're communicating different details of the relationship between

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<v Speaker 11>miss Willis and mister Wade to missus merchant, did you

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<v Speaker 11>lie to her about any of those details?

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<v Speaker 4>Conjection has to answer the life.

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<v Speaker 11>I don't think he's answered you.

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<v Speaker 15>I don't recall ever.

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<v Speaker 3>Whether any of it was a liar or not.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, So here you have Yeah, here you have someone

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<v Speaker 5>who's under oath. He's trying not to perjure himself. At

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<v Speaker 5>least this is the appearance. I'm not gonna say anything.

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<v Speaker 5>He appears to be trying not to perjure himself. Do

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<v Speaker 5>not recall is normally a safe bet. And at some

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<v Speaker 5>point in his testimony he references the fact that he speculated.

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<v Speaker 5>And this is the thing that I want to say

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<v Speaker 5>to you as a black woman in this country. And

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<v Speaker 5>then I'm gonna put my lawyer back, lawyer hat back on.

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<v Speaker 5>The thing that I want to say to you as

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<v Speaker 5>a black woman in this country is shut your ass up.

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<v Speaker 2>Now back with my lawyer. Had I'm gonna say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is really this presents a real issue.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't want to have someone speculating on your relationship

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<v Speaker 5>and then putting you more in the crosshairs of something,

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<v Speaker 5>creating more of a distraction. And what is I know,

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<v Speaker 5>Fani Willis's biggest trial of her life, Nathan Waye's biggest

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<v Speaker 5>trial of his life. You do not want to be

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<v Speaker 5>the distraction. This is why a lot of folks don't

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<v Speaker 5>take cases like these, because their personal lives aren't above approach.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying they're not, but right now we got

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of smoke.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'll tell you I watched the entire hearing yesterday.

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<v Speaker 4>The brother said in an undisputed way that he did

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<v Speaker 4>not have any personal direct knowledge of when the relationship started.

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<v Speaker 4>So if what we're trying to get to is a

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<v Speaker 4>definitive on the date of when it started in the

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<v Speaker 4>end of twenty nineteen or in January, February or March

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<v Speaker 4>of twenty twenty, he couldn't provide that. So I know

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<v Speaker 4>the records on Friday, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know why he was on the stand?

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<v Speaker 4>I do know why he was, understand because he texted.

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<v Speaker 2>Text messages speculating.

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<v Speaker 4>For sure and all.

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<v Speaker 2>He shouldn't have done that.

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<v Speaker 4>He should not have done that of course he shouldn't have,

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<v Speaker 4>but he seemed all too eager to want to throw

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<v Speaker 4>himself into that. Now, mind you, this is also a

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<v Speaker 4>lawyer who parted ways with Nathan Wade because there was

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<v Speaker 4>an allegation at the firm of sexual assault or misconduct

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<v Speaker 4>by this gentleman. And so we've had two face to

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<v Speaker 4>face witnesses who have who had put themselves into a

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<v Speaker 4>position of being a fact witness, who both have access

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<v Speaker 4>to grind with the two principles that subject here, mister

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<v Speaker 4>Nathan Wade and of course UH District Attorney Fannie Willis,

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<v Speaker 4>so the only two people who supposedly saw her or

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<v Speaker 4>done anything done. But between these two people are both compromised.

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<v Speaker 4>He was completely and compellingly unconvincing and uncompelling in his

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<v Speaker 4>testimony yesterday. But I have to tell you, I can't

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<v Speaker 4>see why bar bar Georgia attorneys would make statements and

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<v Speaker 4>profit profess before the court and other filings that that

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<v Speaker 4>that they have done something or didn't do something that

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<v Speaker 4>actually can be proved that that occurred and perjured themselves

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<v Speaker 4>and they lose their bar license. I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 4>Three not counting including him, now three bar attorneys would

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<v Speaker 4>do that. So it's just I'm sick of the fact

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<v Speaker 4>that I feel like the judge by going down every

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<v Speaker 4>rabbit hole, exposed every rabbit hole, I think is expanding

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<v Speaker 4>this way beyond the scope that is necessary and required.

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<v Speaker 4>Because doing that, the judge, he's making.

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<v Speaker 5>The decision, but he's being asked by the Trump attorneys,

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<v Speaker 5>And I think that the thing that we have to

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<v Speaker 5>be mindful of is the thing keeps unraveling. The first

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<v Speaker 5>issue at play was whether or not she financially benefited

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<v Speaker 5>from this relationship at all. Then it started to become

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<v Speaker 5>a parent that conflict of interest was even more at play.

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<v Speaker 5>Now there's a third issue beginning to unravel, and that

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<v Speaker 5>is perjury. Yeah, but it is the responsibility of the

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<v Speaker 5>judge to be impartial, to hear both sides and if

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<v Speaker 5>they're like the reason why this took so long is

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<v Speaker 5>because this man got on the stand, said more than

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<v Speaker 5>he needed to say and then tried to rope it

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<v Speaker 5>all back in. It is like, oh, actually, this is

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<v Speaker 5>protected by attorney client privilege. Well, you already exposed yourself

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<v Speaker 5>to violating attorney client privilege by oversharing on the stand.

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<v Speaker 5>There had to be a separate conversation with the judge

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<v Speaker 5>about that they are making. There's a ton of unforced errors.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry, y'all, there are a ton of Andrew, you

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<v Speaker 5>and I we are in agreement.

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<v Speaker 4>What I'm saying is every door that is open, every

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<v Speaker 4>door that is apparently opened in this case is also

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<v Speaker 4>summarily closed without ever reaching the determination that she had profited,

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<v Speaker 4>that she had conflict, or that the relationship began outside

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<v Speaker 4>of when she said so.

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<v Speaker 2>That's because the evidence is still being presented.

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<v Speaker 4>But every hole they can go down, and that the

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<v Speaker 4>judge allows. He had to allow whether or not a

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<v Speaker 4>phone records are going to come into play here. He

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<v Speaker 4>had to allow whether or not he was going to

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<v Speaker 4>strip the attorney client privilege back to uh uh not come.

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<v Speaker 5>After the attorney violated it on the stand. Though, I

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<v Speaker 5>just I think we need to this judge. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 5>like you. You very rarely hear me defend a white judge.

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<v Speaker 5>This judge has been very fair. He's been He checked them.

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<v Speaker 5>When Fannie Willis was getting asked and answered the question

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<v Speaker 5>over here, He's like, we've been down this, We're doing

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<v Speaker 5>this with fine.

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<v Speaker 4>He didn't do it yesterday. Yesterday he overrode nearly every

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<v Speaker 4>objection made by.

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<v Speaker 2>H because the guy was not answering the question.

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<v Speaker 4>No, because he was answering it, it wasn't to his satisfaction.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe it wasn't to his belief And therefore.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we just watched his testimony. It's hard for

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<v Speaker 2>me to believe it there was. That's why my.

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<v Speaker 4>Thought I thought he was terribly unconvincing. All I'm simply

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<v Speaker 4>saying is the judge has a complete amount of discretion

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<v Speaker 4>on what avenues allowed that he allows to be open,

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<v Speaker 4>and this man needed to be able to prove that

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<v Speaker 4>he could be a fact witness. Here's sake is probably the.

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<v Speaker 5>Judge is probably being careful now because his contribution to

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<v Speaker 5>Fannie Willis of one hundred and fifty damned dollars is

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<v Speaker 5>now in question.

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<v Speaker 2>Like he hast be okay, he gotta be a person.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we could judge is certainly presenting himself as

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<v Speaker 4>impartial on on on the side of the Trump defense.

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<v Speaker 4>Certainly I think he is.

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<v Speaker 6>He can I well, can I just hop in here.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to remind everybody that we have Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump on asking elected officials to five eleven thousand votes

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<v Speaker 1>while we are going over minutia of this woman answering

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<v Speaker 1>what she could have, should have would have done. But

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom line is these people try to upend democracy

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<v Speaker 1>and that is a very serious charge and a serious issue.

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<v Speaker 1>And when these two started banging old work should not

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<v Speaker 1>be messing up her presenting this case. That should be

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<v Speaker 1>issue in for this man trying to steal an election.

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<v Speaker 6>That's a very SERI.

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<v Speaker 4>Be clear that this act has now become a complete circus.

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<v Speaker 4>What isn't act? Yeah, now become and it is nobody's

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<v Speaker 4>one fault. But I can tell you Fannie could have

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<v Speaker 4>nipped this in the bud. I'm sorry, Da Willis could

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<v Speaker 4>have nipped this in the bud by never having hired

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<v Speaker 4>this gentleman in the first place.

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<v Speaker 1>Given what maybe, but this is where we are, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just I don't want to follow their narrative and

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<v Speaker 1>what she's doing. The narrative is this man is on

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<v Speaker 1>tape asking to find eleven thousand votes. That to me,

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<v Speaker 1>it should always be there is you guys talking about well,

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<v Speaker 1>but you guys talking about this has made me think

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<v Speaker 1>of another case, and that is of Marilyn Moseby. So

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<v Speaker 1>I for those who don't know Marilyn Moseby, the attorney

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<v Speaker 1>the Baltimore DA, former Baltimore DA who brought charges in

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<v Speaker 1>the Freddy Gaate case great case, has now caught a

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<v Speaker 1>case herself.

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<v Speaker 6>I want us to talk about that.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have time because we're out of time this week,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe next week or or the week after.

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<v Speaker 5>You guys that I just want to say, just as

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<v Speaker 5>you know, well, I know we're not at calls to

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<v Speaker 5>action yet, but I think we're close.

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<v Speaker 6>Comes to call to action, perfect segue and will kick

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<v Speaker 6>us off call to action.

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<v Speaker 5>Mine is Marilyn Moseby reflected what black prosecutors should look

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<v Speaker 5>like as a state's attorney in Baltimore, and what I

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<v Speaker 5>will tell you is my one ask is that these cases,

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<v Speaker 5>there's two cases that she's caught. As sentencing come draws near,

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<v Speaker 5>that the administ administration, the Biden administration, remembers the discretion,

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<v Speaker 5>the full discretion it has to pardon people who have

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<v Speaker 5>only been out to seek justice. The DOJ should have

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<v Speaker 5>never had her on their target lists. We talk about

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<v Speaker 5>five thousand dollars, and we'll talk more about what this

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<v Speaker 5>five thousand dollars is later, but there's no reason, no,

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<v Speaker 5>she should never spend a day in prison. She should

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<v Speaker 5>not be prevented from practicing law because this should not

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<v Speaker 5>be on her record. Her records should be expunged, she

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<v Speaker 5>should be clear, she should be completely pardoned. And that's

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<v Speaker 5>my call to action this week.

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<v Speaker 4>Well where you know where I would be on that,

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<v Speaker 4>because I think the the the the targeting of black

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<v Speaker 4>elected officials who are impacting in significant ways on society,

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<v Speaker 4>largely contrary to what the governing powers in different cities, counties, states,

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<v Speaker 4>and this nation would like. And they are and they

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<v Speaker 4>and they bring down swift response when they deem necessary.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think this is the case we ought to

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<v Speaker 4>illuminate for every listener out there in every part of

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<v Speaker 4>this country. We ought to be making noise about targeted prosecutions,

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<v Speaker 4>that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, yes, all right, So was that your call to actually.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh well, my really was something was said I think

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<v Speaker 4>last week Angelo, we were in that conversation about the

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<v Speaker 4>video and you said, you know they're playing this on

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<v Speaker 4>Fox News and I said, yeah, I know, but I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know because there isn't a conservative outlet out there

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<v Speaker 4>I necessarily listen to because it get hot, get heated.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to ask that you all choose to join me.

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<v Speaker 4>Not you too, because you apparently already do, but that

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<v Speaker 4>the listeners if you are like me and you can't

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<v Speaker 4>really tolerate nonsense that we spend ten minutes this week

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<v Speaker 4>deliberately listening to a well known or known about conservative

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<v Speaker 4>outlet and just hearing what is said. Just give us

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<v Speaker 4>ten minutes of it and let's see how we emerge

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<v Speaker 4>from it. I'm gonna do it, and I'll share with

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<v Speaker 4>y'all how I feel. And I'm asking that I not

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<v Speaker 4>be the only one going through this missive that others

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<v Speaker 4>join me in trying to hear an opinion of voice,

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<v Speaker 4>a thought different than their own.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, thank you for that. I know we

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<v Speaker 1>said a lot about Marilyn Moseby. We will fill in

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<v Speaker 1>the gap when we talk about this. We want to

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<v Speaker 1>give her the appropriate amount of breath that do this

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<v Speaker 1>case deserve. So please join us. Next week we'll revisit

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<v Speaker 1>this topic because it's a really big deal for us. Andrew,

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<v Speaker 1>I completely respect you, I love you. You know that

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<v Speaker 1>I am a black woman. I grew up Bisueia, Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>and Georgia. I know how conservative white folks think. Enough,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a bit of any more intellectual curiosity

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<v Speaker 1>about that.

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<v Speaker 6>I have lived experience with it, but you know, more

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<v Speaker 6>power to those who want to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I try to give a call to action that's

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<v Speaker 1>not really political, and so something that I'm working on

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<v Speaker 1>that has been really challenging for me, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>am inviting other people to do this with me is patience.

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<v Speaker 1>On my way here, my Uber driver was like he

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<v Speaker 1>was a slow driver. He couldn't find my building. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was frustrated I was getting here. The people the

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<v Speaker 1>front door were driving me crazy. I was just short

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<v Speaker 1>with everybody. And I think sometimes the universe sends me

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<v Speaker 1>situations to teach me patients, to take a breath, to

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<v Speaker 1>treat other people with grace, and we can easily forget

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<v Speaker 1>about that, you know, when you're in a rush, you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do something, and you know, try to think,

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<v Speaker 1>like if this were my mother, how would I want

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<v Speaker 1>someone talking to her? Because or my child, how would

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<v Speaker 1>I want someone talking to them? So take a breath,

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<v Speaker 1>be kind, extend grace to others, and it's kindness is

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<v Speaker 1>free and it's contagious. You know, sometimes I'm in a

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<v Speaker 1>bad mood and I just walk outside my house around

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<v Speaker 1>the block. Uh, and I pet dogs. That makes me

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<v Speaker 1>feel great. But just seeing people smiling at people, it

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<v Speaker 1>can make us all a better community. So just a

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<v Speaker 1>lesson in kindness and patience. And look, I'm a work

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<v Speaker 1>in progress, so that would be my ask. I love

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<v Speaker 1>it some love, kindness and patience. Before we go, one

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<v Speaker 1>quick thing, we have one final viewer question. We won't

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<v Speaker 1>answer it, but just take.

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<v Speaker 14>A quickness able to Chris flow this video submission for y'all.

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<v Speaker 14>Question for y'all, I'll keep it short. Where did you

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<v Speaker 14>get the name Native lamp Podcast? What does it mean

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<v Speaker 14>to be native to you? These people that say, you know,

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<v Speaker 14>off of America. My dad has been from America. You

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<v Speaker 14>know that's not necessarily being native.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris, welcome home. Thank you so much for that question.

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<v Speaker 5>We actually answer that question in our promo recording for

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<v Speaker 5>Native LAMPID, but it's come up so much in questions

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<v Speaker 5>in comments online. People ask about it when we go

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<v Speaker 5>and talk about this show on air. Because of how

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<v Speaker 5>much we've been asked about this, and you all want

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<v Speaker 5>to hear our explanation of Native lampod. We're doing a

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<v Speaker 5>separate mini pod episode that will drop this upcoming Tuesday

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<v Speaker 5>where you can hear all about it and let us

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<v Speaker 5>know how you feel. Make sure that you download that episode,

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<v Speaker 5>you watch it on YouTube, you talk about it in

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<v Speaker 5>the comments, let us know what you think.

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<v Speaker 6>I love that. All right, Thank you to my co

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<v Speaker 6>host for a pact show today.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we end the show, I do want to thank

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<v Speaker 1>all of you guys for weighing in every week with

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<v Speaker 1>your com on YouTube, your comments on our social media handles,

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<v Speaker 1>your videos that you send, please keep them coming.

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<v Speaker 6>We love hearing from you.

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<v Speaker 1>make this interact to conversation this week, so give us

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<v Speaker 1>your thoughts on all the topics that we talked about.

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<v Speaker 1>We are Tiffany Cross, Angela Rai, and Andrew Gillum and

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