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Speaker 1: Native Land Pod is a production of iHeartRadio and partnership

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Speaker 1: with Recent Choice Media. All Right, everybody, welcome home, y'all,

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Speaker 1: welcome to Native Land Pod. We are your host, Tiffany Cross, Angela, right,

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Speaker 1: and Andrew Gillem.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome home, y'all.

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Speaker 3: Welcome home.

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Speaker 1: We are still celebrating the tail end of Black History.

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Speaker 1: By the time you guys get this podcast, it will

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Speaker 1: officially be March. I mean, where did February go? Is

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Speaker 1: a leap year and time is going so fast. What

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Speaker 1: did you say, Andrew?

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Speaker 4: No, I said, holy crap. No, but we have two

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Speaker 4: more days.

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Speaker 5: Right, No, you have one more day on Black History Month?

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Speaker 5: I mean yeah, on the podcast release.

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Speaker 1: Right, And by the time people listen, it's going to

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Speaker 1: be supposed to be able to talk better.

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Speaker 2: This week, I still can't talk.

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Speaker 6: It's because we have so much to talk about.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me just say, speaking of can't talk, I

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Speaker 1: do want our listeners and viewers to know I am

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Speaker 1: a bit under the weather. Her and find you a

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Speaker 1: crew that cares enough about you to instacart you a

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Speaker 1: bunch of mens. Angela uh, doctor Angela medicine woman remedies

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Speaker 1: off of the natural remedies.

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Speaker 4: Decline hopeful.

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Speaker 6: Look.

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Speaker 1: I was supposed to call Angeline figure out how to

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Speaker 1: taste this. It was the heart shape herb. But I

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Speaker 1: had to pray to the answers to turn around and

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Speaker 1: bow three times. I just took one of everything. I

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Speaker 1: took one of everything, and.

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Speaker 2: That was specifically not what she was told to do.

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Speaker 5: Two tablespoods and apple sider vinegar is not one of everything.

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Speaker 2: But I digress, Angela.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you everything that was in that bag. I

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Speaker 1: was taking one and I'm like, this is bingo ail.

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Speaker 1: Do I drink it?

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Speaker 6: Do I put on my.

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Speaker 2: Record?

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Speaker 4: I like it.

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Speaker 6: And stuff It's good juices and berries, juices and berries.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, guys, I will tell you one thing I really

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Speaker 1: hate about the echo chamber is I never see us reflected.

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Speaker 1: So I really love convening with you guys every week

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Speaker 1: where we have conversation that we really have all week

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Speaker 1: and now it's just like you guys get the eavesdrop

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Speaker 1: on the conversation and we love that you're a part

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Speaker 1: of it too. So I want to break down what

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Speaker 1: we're going to get into. We had a big primary

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Speaker 1: in a battleground state, Michigan, so we're going to talk

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Speaker 1: about that what happened there with that protest vote. No

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Speaker 1: big surprises in the winners, but that nuanced protests vote

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Speaker 1: is certainly something to talk about.

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Speaker 6: And we have a big week coming.

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Speaker 1: Up because we're looking ahead to Super Tuesday that's coming

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Speaker 1: up Tuesday, March fifth, and the President will deliver his

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Speaker 1: State of the Union address on March seventh. So we

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Speaker 1: asked you guys to weigh in with what you wanted

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Speaker 1: to hear him talk about, and boy did you ever.

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Speaker 6: So we have some of your comments. We're going to

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Speaker 6: be talking about that.

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Speaker 1: We also want to get into how the DEI issues

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Speaker 1: remain under attack. There are so many attacks on these

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Speaker 1: issues across the country and they continue.

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Speaker 6: And speaking of things being under attacked, our pockets are

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Speaker 6: under attack.

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Speaker 1: We're going to get into this win these surge pricing

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Speaker 1: on this episode. So we got a lot to get into.

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Speaker 1: So let's kick it off and in the words of

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Speaker 1: old school Jane and Jackson, give me a beat. In

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Speaker 1: some other news, fresh off Capitol Hill, Mitch McConnell, Senator,

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Speaker 1: Senator Mitch McConnell, the Senate Majority Leader, I'm sorry, Senate

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Speaker 1: Minority leader. He is the minority they have. The Republicans

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Speaker 1: are on the Senate, on the Senate in the upper chamber.

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Speaker 1: He is stepping down now. He's not stepping down from

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Speaker 1: his Senate seat despite experiencing several medical incidents that we've

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Speaker 1: all bought witness to, but he is stepping down from

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Speaker 1: his position in leadership. Interesting facts about Mitch McConnell. His

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Speaker 1: he made some remarks I think what last year, maybe, Angelie,

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Speaker 1: you remember when he talked about black people voting just

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Speaker 1: as much as Americans voting as though they're separate. Another

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Speaker 1: interesting facts about Mitch McConnell. His family actually enslaved black people,

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Speaker 1: which is part of how he got to his leadership position.

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Speaker 6: So thoughts and prayers to.

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Speaker 4: Him, Tiffany Man, I add one more interesting fact. Yes, Sir,

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Speaker 4: Mitch McConnell also pulled off the greatest theft in history

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Speaker 4: by taking and stealing a Supreme Court justice seat during

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Speaker 4: Barack Obama's term as president. And they got away when

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Speaker 1: So let's get into the big news this week, and

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Speaker 1: that is the Michigan primary. No big surprises there, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you guys have heard us talk about the

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Speaker 1: protest vote that was introduced Congresswoman racheated to leave, encouraging

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Speaker 1: people to do a protest vote. Well, a lot of

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Speaker 1: people listen because as of right now, one hundred over

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Speaker 1: one hundred thousand people according to the latest reporting, voted uncommitted.

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Speaker 1: So before we get into the discussion, I want to

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Speaker 1: let you guys hear what Congresswoman Rasheated to Leave had

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Speaker 6: Take a listen, and we'll talk about it. On the

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Speaker 6: other side.

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Speaker 7: Everyone, it's Rashida. I was proud today to walk in

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Speaker 7: and pull a democratic ballot and vote uncommitted. We must

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Speaker 7: protect our democracy. We must make sure that our government

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Speaker 7: is about us, about the people. When seventy four percent

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Speaker 7: of Democrats and Michigan support a cease fire, yet President

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Speaker 7: Biden is not hearing us, this is the way we

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Speaker 7: can use our democracy to say listen. Listen to Michigan,

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Speaker 7: Listen to the families right now that have been directly impacted.

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Speaker 7: But also listen to the majority of Americans who are

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Speaker 7: saying enough, no more wars, no more using our dollars

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Speaker 7: to fund a genocide, no more.

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Speaker 1: All right, So that's Congressman Rashida to leave talking about

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Speaker 1: voting uncommitted Angela Andrew, What do you guys make of that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? You know. The thing that I have to say

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Speaker 5: here is I just have some frustration to express. I

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Speaker 5: people on social media. I can't tell you if I

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Speaker 5: was the sole Palestinian representative in Congress, what I would

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Speaker 5: want people to do to make their voices heard. I

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Speaker 5: want to remind folks that this is a primary election.

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Speaker 5: It is the perfect time to make your voices heard.

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Speaker 5: However you choose to do that, whether it is I'm

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Speaker 5: ability to apply to you until we get to the

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Speaker 5: convention in Chicago. I think that she had to do

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Speaker 5: love it. It scares me, particularly when I look at

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Speaker 5: six thousand plus votes. If the election were held today,

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Speaker 5: that would have meant that Donald Trump would have beat

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Speaker 2: And that is a battleground state. It's a state that's needed.

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Speaker 5: The one thing that we know we can't afford to

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Speaker 5: Like everybody needs to vote. Every single state, every battleground

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Speaker 5: needs to be blue in order for democracy to be preserved.

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Speaker 2: That is where we are. So there's a lot at stake.

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Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna say, how dare she do this?

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Speaker 2: Like she doesn't.

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Speaker 5: She's she is fully human, fully Palestinian, and walking a

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Speaker 5: very lonely road, and I don't know what that's like.

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Speaker 5: So you know, I kudos to everyone who won turned

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Speaker 5: out because that's the most important thing. What is not

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Speaker 5: a protest vote is you sit in your ass on

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Speaker 5: a couch. That's not a protest vote. That's letting somebody

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Speaker 5: best thing that we could hope for in a democracy,

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Speaker 5: in a two party system that frankly hasn't served the

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Speaker 2: I support them being active. Nonetheless, agreed, agreed.

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Speaker 1: Now now, Andrew, you know, Michigan is home to a

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Speaker 1: very large Arab American population. We have all seen the

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Speaker 1: carnage out of Gaza. It is hard to look at

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Speaker 1: and it is not just an issue for Arab Americans.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people are looking at what's happening over there.

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Speaker 1: I'm very unhappy about it.

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Speaker 4: What do you mean, Yeah, I mean I think you're right,

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Speaker 4: and both of you are right, Angela. I'm not sure

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Speaker 4: it's probably pretty well known. Now. I don't read social

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Speaker 4: media comments anymore, but I got to tell you, the

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Speaker 4: exercise of a demonstration vote could not have been better

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Speaker 4: place than in a primary election. Let's just be clear

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Speaker 4: about this, because if we were at November, which thankfully

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Speaker 4: creek without a pedal. Hillary Clinton lost the state of

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Speaker 4: Michigan by somewhat eleven thousand votes to Donald Trump eleven thousand.

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Speaker 4: Joe Biden in the rematch. Obviously in last year, oh sorry,

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Speaker 4: one hundred thousand votes, so we're anywhere between eleven thousand

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Speaker 4: also means, by further extension, who wins the presidency of

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Speaker 4: the United States of America. That's what it comes down to.

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Speaker 4: And so I saw interviews on television many of those

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Speaker 4: I don't like how the President is handling this war

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Speaker 4: Biden come the November election. So I think a good

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Speaker 4: number of these people will come home, But I don't

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Speaker 4: believe they're coming home unless they see something different by

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Speaker 4: it should be a warning sign to the White House.

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Speaker 4: But I will tell you who else out of adopted

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Speaker 4: a warning sign. Donald Trump. He lost three hundred thousand

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Speaker 4: votes to NICKI Haley. Practically you can't win, to say

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Speaker 4: don't know how many of them say I'll vote for

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Speaker 4: But my guess is a number of those people are

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Speaker 4: and so that that ought have sent a oney sign

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you brought up Nicki Haley because she

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Speaker 5: Let's wait, I just have one quick thing, quick thing.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, it's going to be super quick. The only

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Speaker 5: other thing I wanted to flag for everyone is in

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Speaker 5: twenty twelve, when Barack Obama was in the race, there

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Speaker 5: was a primary where eleven percent of Michiganders voted uncommitted

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Speaker 5: as well. It wasn't a protest for twenty it was,

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Speaker 5: but it was it was eleven percent of the turnout,

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Speaker 5: and so I just want to make sure that folks

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Speaker 2: That was all I love.

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Speaker 1: All right, So, nick I'm glad you brought up Nicki

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Speaker 1: Haley because she says she's not getting out the race.

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Speaker 2: That's what this is about.

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Speaker 8: You know, if I got out when y'all were talking

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Speaker 4: That's true.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, that is the whole point of a contest.

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Speaker 1: Angela has been doing an excellent job posting these news updates.

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Speaker 1: Super Tuesday, Tuesday, March fifth, the state's voting Alabama, Alaska,

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Speaker 6: She's served in his administration.

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Speaker 4: So I think we can see that.

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Speaker 6: So they will fall into guess what.

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Speaker 4: Those words aren't going away, her critiques of him aren't

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Speaker 5: The only thing I'll say to this is, you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, look, I just have seen time and time

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Speaker 4: I don't doubt that, y'all. But this is why Fanian

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Speaker 4: in between. Bush, you did become president with a four

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Speaker 4: what was it a five for Supreme Court decision, right,

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Speaker 4: That made the difference every time.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the hanging chest. That's swinging chess. Yeah, hanging Chad, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Started on there.

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Speaker 6: Florida, Florida.

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Speaker 1: I tell you, you brought up a really good point about

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Speaker 6: We have a viewer question.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys for submitting all your questions to us,

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Speaker 1: and you can keep sending those at Native land Pod

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Speaker 1: on our Instagram handle. But we have an interesting viewer

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Speaker 6: Is it a real thing. We'll get to that on

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Speaker 9: Always been a racist and has never supported anything, even

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Speaker 5: I just want us to be really careful about how

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Speaker 5: Be very careful and mindful of the platform you carry

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Speaker 5: and how you use that thing. And at the same time,

444
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Speaker 5: just because one rapper did it, don't mean all rappers

445
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Speaker 5: did it. So let's not throw that at the feet

446
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Speaker 5: of everybody. That is ain't cool and it ain't right.

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Speaker 1: So that's that is so important, and really quickly because

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Speaker 1: share responsibly. Just because you see something somebody wrote something

449
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Speaker 1: like make sure verify your sources, seek information from reliable,

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Speaker 1: responsible sources. And Will just pointed out we have no

451
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Speaker 1: record of jay Z standing with Trump or endorsing Trump's

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Speaker 1: presidency and some of these to your point, right, is

453
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Speaker 1: that we have not seen anything like that. So so again,

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Speaker 1: when you say things like that, it's important to make

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Speaker 1: sure that you're accurate. And I just want to point

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Speaker 1: out to the point of fat Joe, I echo everything

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Speaker 1: you said, Angela. Fat Joe is obviously in the Puerto

458
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Speaker 1: Rican community. I believe he lives in Florida. It's a

459
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Speaker 1: solid red state. Fat Joe holding the Trump sneaker is

460
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Speaker 1: not going to win the election for Donald Trump. But

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Speaker 1: I think Angela makes a good point Andrew in that influence,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that you know, Listen, most black people,

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Speaker 1: I just hate that, like we that the media reduces

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Speaker 1: black men like they're gonna see Fat Joe holding a

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Speaker 1: sneaker and if they're.

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Speaker 6: Gona vote for Trump.

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Speaker 1: Most people are not looking to gen X rappers for

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Speaker 1: how they're going to vote.

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Speaker 6: But I don't want us to buy. They're looking at

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Speaker 6: like I don't want.

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Speaker 1: To donate to his I don't want to donate to

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Speaker 1: his legal donate to exactly. But we're looking at these

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Speaker 1: rappers like you look a You look a fool when

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Speaker 1: you when you stand.

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Speaker 6: We're looking at you like.

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Speaker 4: That's right. That's just real quick for joy I think

477
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Speaker 4: she was saying. She was saying, even though he stood

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Speaker 4: next to and and engage with with jay Z and

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Speaker 4: she listened to some others did not.

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Speaker 5: I don't even want us to say that that did

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Speaker 5: not happen. But it did not happen. That's why you

482
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Speaker 5: didn't see it. It has never happened.

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Speaker 4: I get it what I think she's referring to. For instance,

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Speaker 4: just like you've seen the Clintons in the same place

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Speaker 4: location where Donald Trump has been, maybe there were New

486
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Speaker 4: York events. Because she is in New York, she may

487
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Speaker 4: have seen them at the same place and thought that

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Speaker 4: they were. So I just want to I'll put that

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Speaker 4: in its own perspective. But I agree with you, Angela.

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Speaker 4: If it were sit down meeting and a pat on

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Speaker 4: the back and you go do this, that ain't happen.

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Speaker 4: We haven't seen that. But I will say you're your

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Speaker 4: Your comment around the celebrity piece really hits close to

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Speaker 4: me because I do think that they have the influence

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Speaker 4: to help move people to the polls, keep them from

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Speaker 4: the poles potentially, and maybe and shape ower person may vote.

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Speaker 4: I don't know for sure, but I will say this, y'all.

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Speaker 4: Celebrities largely got more money, more resources, live in a

499
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Speaker 4: different world than you and I get to live in.

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Speaker 4: And so I don't think it's beyond the pale for

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Speaker 4: people who are wealthy in this country to be lightweight

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Speaker 4: side with Trump here or there. Possibly, I don't know

503
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Speaker 4: for a fact, but possibly, but know that they are

504
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Speaker 4: motivated by different set of reasons, then you might be

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Speaker 4: motivated when you go to the polls. Furthermore, if Trump

506
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Speaker 4: is using selling Hawking some plastic orange or yellow slash

507
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Speaker 4: gold and pale sneakers as his entree into the black community,

508
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Speaker 4: and why you ought to vote for him, or if

509
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Speaker 4: he's he's he's pitching you on the fact that he

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Speaker 4: got a mugshot and therefore we ought to be in

511
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Speaker 4: solidary andrew with him. They just know, y'all, that that

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Speaker 4: is the lowest hanging invisible fruit there ever is to

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Speaker 4: compel anybody to be for you. Which if you want

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Speaker 4: me as your voter, come to me with some public

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Speaker 4: policy that is going to alter my life in such

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Speaker 4: a way that I earn more that I am able

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Speaker 4: to start a business as a minority and get some

518
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Speaker 4: grant and loan assistance that takes it there. But this

519
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Speaker 4: this stuff that this man is doing as a way

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Speaker 4: to outreach to people of color, and more specifically black folk, y'all,

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Speaker 4: we are to all be outraged and insulted, but you

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Speaker 4: know what entree to us. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Let me well, before we go on, guys, I just

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Speaker 1: want to remind people what Donald Trump actually said. So

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Speaker 1: take a listen to what he believes is his appeal

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Speaker 1: to the black community.

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Speaker 10: We've all seen the mugshot, and you know who embraced

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Speaker 10: it more than anybody else, the black population.

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Speaker 5: It's incredible.

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Speaker 10: You see black people walking around with my monk shot.

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Speaker 10: You know, they do shirts and they sewn for nineteen

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Speaker 10: dollars apiece.

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Speaker 6: It's pretty amazing.

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Speaker 5: Angela, Listen, I'm gonna tell you something that's not gonna

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Speaker 5: be popper. We have a lot of people who are

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Speaker 5: motivated and inspired to go to the polls for some

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Speaker 5: really interesting reasons. There was a time in our electorate

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Speaker 5: where someone who appeared to be the first real shot

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Speaker 5: we had at a presidency after the ways, the many

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Speaker 5: ways in which Reverend Jackson paved the way right, But

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Speaker 5: we knew that that was even a long shot. Barack

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Speaker 5: Obama ran on hope and change, change we could believe in.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't substantive policy. It was the hope that America

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Speaker 5: could actually finally serve us. And then there are these

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Speaker 5: other folks and and and we have to be really

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Speaker 5: careful with like, well, rappers don't really move the needle.

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Speaker 5: There's a reason why there are surrogate operations in every campaign,

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Speaker 5: from the mayor to the governor to the president.

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Speaker 2: It does move the needle on some things.

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Speaker 5: I am insulted by the direction in which Donald Trump

551
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Speaker 5: has taken this thing, but I'm not going to be

552
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 5: intellectually dishonest and say that broad stroke themes don't work

553
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 5: to move bodies to the polls. Shame on him for

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Speaker 5: saying that his mugshot was enough to move a base.

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Speaker 5: But I think the real thing is, and this might

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Speaker 5: be a whole ass ted talk podcast that we need

557
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 5: to do to unravel it. There is something remarkable about

558
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Speaker 5: someone who can relate to the many challenges that we've had.

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Speaker 5: It is not Donald Trump, to be super clear, but

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Speaker 5: I think that it is highly worth considering. As someone

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Speaker 5: who is a student of political strategy. What it means

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Speaker 5: to find someone who is has been othered. What it

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00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 5: means to find someone who has had to pull themselves

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Speaker 5: up by their bootstraps after they found some boots that

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Speaker 5: they could actually afford.

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Speaker 2: What it means to.

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Speaker 5: Really like be one of the people who was ostracized

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Speaker 5: and not really allowed, you know what I mean? Like,

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Speaker 5: what does it mean to have this person who really

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Speaker 5: understands the plight of a community that has been so

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Speaker 5: marginalized despite our significant contribution. And I think there's language

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Speaker 5: at play that he has effectively used to reach some

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Speaker 5: of our folks who haven't felt heard in the process.

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Speaker 5: The problem is, I need y'all to understand what gas

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Speaker 5: lighting is. This isn't hope and change you can believe in.

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Speaker 5: This is someone who is praying on you. Not praying, praying,

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Speaker 5: pouncing on you where you've been most vulnerable, playing like

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Speaker 5: they understand what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever been in a relationship with a.

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Speaker 5: Dude who has never heard you and then all of

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Speaker 5: a sudden, when you're about to walk out that door,

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Speaker 5: the dude starts telling you everything you ever told him.

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Speaker 2: They're like, you know, when you.

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Speaker 5: Said such and such and so and so, I feel

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Speaker 5: you I get it, I got you, I'm with you,

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Speaker 5: and they're all that, and then you're like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 5: he really gets it.

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Speaker 2: I finally feel heard.

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Speaker 1: And then you go back, why is Angela telling him? Listen,

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Speaker 1: but we gotta nail this so we get it right,

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Speaker 1: so we can see the demon coming.

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Speaker 6: That is what he's doing.

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Speaker 5: And then when he gets you, boo boo, he gonna say, actually,

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Speaker 5: you I am still the lawn order president.

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Speaker 2: Your ass going back to jail for nothing.

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Speaker 5: When he gets you, he's gonna say, I do still

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Speaker 5: think Harriet's ass deserves to be on a two dollar

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Speaker 5: bill and not a twenty. When he gets you, he

599
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Speaker 5: is gonna say, I do think you should be shared

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Speaker 5: cropping and not holding shares in this corporation. When he

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Speaker 5: gets you, he's gonna say, actually, grab them by the vagina,

602
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Speaker 5: don't let them have IVF, don't let them have an abortion.

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Speaker 5: I don't care if there was rape or incest involved.

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Speaker 5: And on top of that, fuck your birth control. That's

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Speaker 5: what we're dealing with. He's saying all the right things,

606
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Speaker 5: but he's doing it for all the wrong reasons. He

607
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 5: hope your ass stays at home. He hopes you go

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Speaker 5: to the polls and votes for him. He hopes you

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Speaker 5: get a Nigga for Trump t shirt and then you

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Speaker 5: are booboo the fool. And I don't think that we're

611
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Speaker 5: that dumb. Prove me right that we're not that dumb.

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Speaker 5: I didn't cussed, I didn't got in trouble with my

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Speaker 5: pastor my mom and daddy and all that.

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Speaker 1: But that was necessary. A lot of people listen to

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Speaker 1: the podcast who ain't bad about it.

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Speaker 2: Andrew was a bishop today now all the time.

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Speaker 1: I have a question for you guys, though, because this

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Speaker 1: is a point of disagreement, and I may be the

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Speaker 1: cheese may stand alone here because Andrew you made this point.

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Speaker 1: Angela made this point. Andrew you're saying celebrities have an influence.

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Speaker 1: Angela you're saying rappers can sway people. I am trying

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Speaker 1: to think if I've ever been moved by a celebrity

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Speaker 1: on a policy of position.

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Speaker 6: You know that not.

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 11: Right?

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Speaker 1: So that's my question, like who is the population? You

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Speaker 1: guys think, who is almost everybody? But the reason why

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Speaker 1: this nuance point when I don't know about that, because

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Speaker 1: the reason why this is such an important point because

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Speaker 1: I think the media gets this wrong so much. My

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Speaker 1: grandmama wasn't never moved by a celebrity. My unts weren't

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Speaker 1: never moved. But there are To your point, If you

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Speaker 1: guys are saying that, I just wonder who are these people?

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Speaker 1: And I want our viewers when you guys listen to

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Speaker 1: this and way in do you know people who are

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Speaker 1: moved by rappers or celebrity? Have you ever been swayed

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Speaker 1: by a rapper or celebrity on how you cat celebrity?

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Speaker 6: I agree now I'm just hearing this.

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Speaker 4: I mean I think yes they do have. Angela mentioned

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Speaker 4: the fact that there is an operation side of every

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Speaker 4: campaign that has ever run that is likely been successful.

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Speaker 4: Where you have Sarah Getz who come and they do

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Speaker 4: it for a number of reasons, one of which they

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Speaker 4: want press.

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Speaker 6: But are theyties?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean my campaign did it. I'll tell you

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Speaker 4: we had everybody who would come, everybody, and in part

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Speaker 4: because we knew that different people took their marching orders,

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Speaker 4: took their influence from different folks. I am not for everybody, Angela,

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Speaker 4: you are not for everybody. Tiffany, you are not for everybody.

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Speaker 4: We are not even as wide diverse and divergent opinions

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Speaker 4: as we may have as as as I think model

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Speaker 4: a person. The both of you are different. Folks look

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Speaker 4: different places to get influence, and they find to find influence.

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Speaker 4: And that's why there's an influencer culture, because we know

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Speaker 4: that there are folks who do things based off of

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Speaker 4: what other people say. That said, Angela, your points were brilliant,

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Speaker 4: And the only thing I have to say is that

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Speaker 4: I think if he is communicating, if he is that

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Speaker 4: man that you're about to walk away from, who then

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Speaker 4: starts viewing the right things as if it's been there always,

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Speaker 4: he didn't do a good job at spewing it. I'm

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Speaker 4: talking Donald Trump, just the overwhelmingly obvious tokenizing way in

666
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Speaker 4: which he does and says what he says. Because I

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Speaker 4: agree with you, Angela, I opened myself up to a

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Speaker 4: whole new round of people after being indicted. I didn't

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Speaker 4: know it was a thing, but there were people who said, man,

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Speaker 4: I wish you were governor, and I wish you had

671
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Speaker 4: done that thing, and this is that and a third

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Speaker 4: But bruh, you know, you now know what the man

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Speaker 4: does and what they do, and you're not fool and

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Speaker 4: so it signaled something different. However, I had and unpacked

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Speaker 4: of conversation about the for larger the criminal justice reform,

676
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Speaker 4: because it shouldn't be that you've got to hire a

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Speaker 4: million dollar lawyer and be a former elected official and

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Speaker 4: a former you know, a party leader to be able

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Speaker 4: to fight back against a system that trounces on us

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Speaker 4: every single day. Right, this man didn't do that. He

681
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Speaker 4: just said I got a mug shot and mugshot and

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Speaker 4: y'all ought to be with me. The blacks are out

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Speaker 4: there with me because my face because I went to

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Speaker 4: I have a mug shot. That's not sincere. It is

685
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Speaker 4: nothing but tokenizing. And for those who buy that bait,

686
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Speaker 4: maybe you get what you deserve. But the problem is

687
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Speaker 4: if you're getting what you desider, I'm sorry, but you

688
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Speaker 4: getting what you deserve puts your foot on my neck

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Speaker 4: and that of my children and my children's children. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's why it's so important that we take this thing

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Speaker 4: for real and for serious, because it ain't just about you.

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Speaker 4: The implications will impact you, please believe, because everything Angela

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Speaker 4: said is right, but it's going to impact more than

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Speaker 4: just You can limpack the communities and the people you

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Speaker 4: care about the most.

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Speaker 1: Really quick on well, speaking of impacting the community, I

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Speaker 1: just want to say under the Trump administration, because you

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Speaker 1: talked about cj our criminal justice reform in a day,

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Speaker 1: his ag at the time, Jeff Sessions brought back mandates

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Speaker 1: and that was a huge thing that devastated the black community.

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Speaker 1: I also just want to make the point that when

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Speaker 1: you guys are saying celebrities as validators, I think community

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Speaker 1: validators can also be your book for it can also

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Speaker 1: be your sororities of your friend brothers.

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Speaker 11: Right.

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Speaker 1: So I just wonder I really want to hear from

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Speaker 1: the audience.

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Speaker 2: I know you don't want to hear it from me

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Speaker 2: no more.

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Speaker 5: But I got one more thing on the Syriaca just

711
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Speaker 5: because we went I know we went a lot longer

712
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Speaker 5: on this, but I think it is yea, it should

713
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Speaker 5: be something that we unpacked point by point on another pod,

714
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Speaker 5: but surrogate operations aren't because that person in and of

715
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Speaker 5: themselves saying I'm going to do this, therefore you better.

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Speaker 5: Although it might if Beyonce goes and says I'm going

717
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Speaker 5: to do this, therefore you better, maybe it moves bodies

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Speaker 5: to the polls. She did it with Bejo. It didn't

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Speaker 5: work all.

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Speaker 2: The way, but maybe if she was any.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true, but it you know, but we had

722
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Speaker 5: a concert for you the night before the election, and

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Speaker 5: people still went to vote for you, Andrew in the rain,

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Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So like, there are people

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Speaker 5: when that that have the function of moving bodies to

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Speaker 5: the polls. But you know what, I think the bigger

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Speaker 5: purpose of a surrogate operation is to bring in people

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Speaker 5: to do no harm. There are people that stepped out

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Speaker 5: against Andrew. I will never forget Luke Campbell.

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Speaker 2: And it wasn't against you. It was for yep.

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Speaker 5: It was for the mayor of my It was in

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Speaker 5: Miami Beach, yeah, Levine, Yeah all right. And I was

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Speaker 5: so like, how could you do this when a black

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Speaker 5: man was running? Luke said he didn't know Andrew was running.

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Speaker 5: That couldn't could indeed have been the case. Andrew was

736
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Speaker 5: running on a shoe string budget in the primary. He

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Speaker 5: was making it happen. But I do think that the

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Speaker 5: most important thing that a surrogate operation could have is

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Speaker 5: a provision of doing no harm, bringing enough people to

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Speaker 5: do no harm to get educated about it. So when not,

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Speaker 5: since it's put on social media, they're in a position

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Speaker 5: to push back a little bit. That is I think

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Speaker 5: the initial purpose of serrogus, but they do move bodies

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Speaker 5: not only to the polls, but to do no harm.

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Speaker 4: And since you bought it, and I think that's tweeted

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Speaker 4: this past week.

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Speaker 2: Yes he did what he said. Trump, he said tump,

748
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Speaker 2: though I need somebody to spell.

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Speaker 1: We all go from this point on, ain't and look

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Speaker 1: at these look at these questions I want because so

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Speaker 1: many people waited in a lot of people have things

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Speaker 1: that they wanted President Biden to address in his State.

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Speaker 11: Of the Union.

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Speaker 4: Than by the way, I'm going.

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Speaker 6: To get those people.

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Speaker 1: Yes, thank you guys, Yes, let's roll that and then

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about it.

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Speaker 12: Native lamb Pod thank you so very much for this

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Speaker 12: called the action. I am Manny's millennium mouth, huge fan.

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Speaker 12: And what I want President Biden to address at the

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Speaker 12: State of Union is the fact that we're only two

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Speaker 12: months in twenty twenty four and already eight school shootings

763
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Speaker 12: have occurred, and every time the topic of gun control

764
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Speaker 12: is brought up, the pushback is from the people that

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Speaker 12: claim they are so pro life, and they'll say, what

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Speaker 12: about the protection as the Second Amendment? What about the

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Speaker 12: protection of our children? Parents are sending their children to

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Speaker 12: school to get an education, and instead they're getting a

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Speaker 12: healthy hospital bill or they're getting a funeral service.

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Speaker 2: You know why she picked this question, Andrew.

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Speaker 4: Because she's interviewing for the fourth Oh You.

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Speaker 2: Baby Park Atlanta Park at LANTAA.

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Speaker 4: How about shout out to OH every show. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 4: an honorary I'm an honorary doctor from Pluck Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: You really know.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 6: I love it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, c A Vonn and our brother. What do

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Speaker 1: you guys think about it? I do just want to

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Speaker 1: put a little news here. This week, the Supreme Court

781
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Speaker 1: is considering banning bump stocks. You guys remember of that

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Speaker 1: horrific shooting in Las Vegas. The Trump administration surprisingly issued

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Speaker 1: a ban on bump stocks. It's been banned since twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 1: There is a chance this week that the Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: could overturn that and reintroduce bump stocks into society. I

786
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Speaker 1: don't know why anybody would do that, but that is

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Speaker 1: happening this week. But what do you guys make of

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Speaker 1: his question?

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Speaker 5: I didn't really feel like he asked the question. I

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Speaker 5: think he told us exactly what he wanted to do.

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Speaker 2: Back here.

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Speaker 4: Thought he was interviewing for the fourth co host, I'd

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Speaker 4: like him.

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Speaker 1: Well, he was saying, what about the protection of the

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Speaker 1: Second Amendment? What about the protection of our children? How

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Speaker 1: but there are a lot of black people who you know,

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Speaker 1: there are plenty of black people who are Second Amendment advocates.

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Speaker 6: There are plenty of black gun a moment, can we

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Speaker 6: have both?

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Speaker 1: Especially in that Bible bell in the South, like my

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Speaker 1: uncles think, it's so strange that I live in the

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Speaker 1: house and I don't have.

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Speaker 6: A gun, and they're like, you have a gun. You

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Speaker 6: need a gun?

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Speaker 1: Right pop a ride look like he packing. So I

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Speaker 1: just wonder, but is there how do we balance that

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Speaker 1: with all this this gun violent school shooting And is

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Speaker 1: gun control legislation going to stop these mass shootings? I

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Speaker 1: believe it will. It will limit it. I don't know

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Speaker 1: that it will bring it to a speeching, not a hope.

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Speaker 4: But yes, what from the world, and there is not

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Speaker 4: another developed nation in the world that confronts the level

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Speaker 4: of gun violence incidents that we have here in the

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Speaker 4: United States in a single month of the year. We

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Speaker 4: can't find another country that has had that many violent

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Speaker 4: gun violence related incidents and mass shootings. Then a one

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Speaker 4: year analysis in their own countries. So there's something special,

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Speaker 4: particular and unique in this country about our gun toting

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Speaker 4: culture that is uncomparable, uncomparable to any other place in

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Speaker 4: the world. It is a problem. We all have to

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Speaker 4: know it now. Why it is that we have folks

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Speaker 4: in Washington, DC who are so entrenched, as the brother said,

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Speaker 4: who are so pro life, but don't care a thing

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Speaker 4: about life once it's out of the womb, care a

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Speaker 4: thing about it, right, do nothing to advance life beyond

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Speaker 4: the speaking point, the talking point, the political advantages of it.

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Speaker 4: And I'll just say, look no further than the humongous

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Speaker 4: lobby that exists for guns, largely the National Rifle Association,

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Speaker 4: the money that they put into campaigns and elections, and

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Speaker 4: you will get your answer, all right, money is the

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Speaker 4: guiding principle here. That's what they want, that's what they're after.

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Speaker 4: Many of these folks don't carry guns themselves, they don't

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Speaker 4: have them in their homes themselves. Yet they're out here

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Speaker 4: advocating what our founders and framers could have never conceived of.

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Speaker 4: And that look back then, if you shot a gun,

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Speaker 4: you had half a chance of shooting yourself. That was

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Speaker 4: the technology of the day. They did not consider that

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Speaker 4: you could have a gun then in a matter of seconds,

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Speaker 4: seconds could strike down twelve people. They never conceive.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, Angela, you got another question for it.

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Speaker 3: I won't President Biden into it. Dress why he is

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Speaker 3: willing to give ninety five point three billion dollars to

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Speaker 3: Ukraine and Israel, ninety five point three billion of our

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Speaker 3: tax dollars to foreign countries instead of dealing with the problems.

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Speaker 4: That we have here at home.

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Speaker 6: We have student loan.

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Speaker 3: Crisis, we have an education crisis, we have an infrastructure crisis,

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Speaker 3: we have a healthcare crisis. We have black unemployment crisis,

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Speaker 3: we have a black wealth crisis. Do you realize that

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Speaker 3: ninety five point three billion dollars is the same as

851
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Speaker 3: given three million Americans thirty thousand dollars worth of relief

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Speaker 3: from their student loans.

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Speaker 5: I don't feel like he's asking a question. He's yeah,

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Speaker 5: he made it plain, he's super clear. It's a great proposal.

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Speaker 5: I don't mind it at all. I'm always for relief,

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Speaker 5: financial relief for our people we need it, and certainly

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Speaker 5: for reparations, even though this wasn't a reparation proposal. But

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Speaker 5: I think our folks did a great job of weighing

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Speaker 5: in with what they wanted to here from President by

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Speaker 5: and in the State of the Union address.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully his team is taken note.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm but Andrew, what do you what do

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Speaker 1: you think about what he was saying about this aid

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Speaker 1: that we are look a big issue that we just

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Speaker 1: saw play out in the Michigan primary is we are

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Speaker 1: funding a lot of what we see the IDF doing

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Speaker 1: in Gaza and a lot of people feel very uncomfortable

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Speaker 1: with that. Do we think that will have an impact

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Speaker 1: in the general and what would what would he say

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Speaker 1: about that or what could he say about that during

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Speaker 1: the State of the Years to put maybe put the

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Speaker 1: people's at ease.

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Speaker 6: But I don't think people will.

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Speaker 4: I think he could say a lot, but it would

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Speaker 4: be more important that if his words would actually carry

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Speaker 4: sway with uh Benjamin Nett Yahoo versus basically going into

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Speaker 4: the ether and not really having an impact. We see

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Speaker 4: the country American taxpayers, of course funding has funded largely

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Speaker 4: Israel's security, UH sense its independence and and I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't. I don't take issue with that at all.

881
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Speaker 4: And by the way, I think student loans and student

882
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 4: loan debt is an issue that out of stand on

883
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 4: its own two feet, and the President does have a

884
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 4: proposal in that regard, and what we have to worry

885
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 4: about is whether the Supreme Court is going to take

886
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 4: a machete hatchet to it and strip that program down

887
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 4: to the point that it doesn't exist unless the Congress

888
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 4: gets their act together and passes it. The one thing

889
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 4: that I neglected to say earlier when we talked about

890
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 4: the results in Michigan is that outside of Dearborn, Michigan,

891
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 4: where we have the largest concentration of Palestinian Americans, the

892
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 4: other constituency that is terribly shaken by watching what they

893
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,720
Speaker 4: see happen on their TV screens over there are young people.

894
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 4: And I'm not talking about young people concentrated in Michigan.

895
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 4: I'm talking about young people everywhere around the country. They're

896
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 4: coming out on college campuses and the neighborhoods. And Justice's

897
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 4: brother did with the question to say, what are we doing?

898
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Speaker 4: They are acting as a matter of conscience, and young voters,

899
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 4: let me tell y'all, they ain't stupid. They don't have

900
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Speaker 4: told what to do, when to do, and so on

901
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 4: and so forth. For them, they are acting as a

902
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 4: matter of conscience, and they don't believe that conscience resides

903
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 4: in any one party by itself. They believe that conscience

904
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 4: resides based off of what you do, from action to

905
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 4: action to action to action. And so I feel that

906
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 4: and I just you know, I'm proud that they're engaged

907
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 4: and involved. And I hope that the President, frankly, is

908
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 4: able to deliver more than lip service in a state

909
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 4: of the Union such to the point that circumstances change

910
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 4: on the ground.

911
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: All right, thank you guys for submitting all these questions.

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Speaker 1: We have one more coming right up after this break,

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Speaker 1: So don't go anywhere. We'll see you on the other side. Okay,

914
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Speaker 1: our last question it comes from Akiva.

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Speaker 6: Let's see what Akiva has to say.

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Speaker 13: Hi, I'm Akiva, say and said, I'm a'ma Southern college

917
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Speaker 13: and we're in an africanis ultilodox class. And our question

918
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Speaker 13: today is how do we convince a single mother who's

919
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 13: TAKS sixteen hundred dollars client test creator is nice but

920
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 13: not sufficient for the young man with the felam in

921
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 13: conviction that the ability to vote or not get him housing, employment,

922
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 13: or restore his serenity. More importantly, how would you convince

923
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 13: those of us in college who see mountains of their

924
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,959
Speaker 13: lower waste jobs and higher cost of living that voting

925
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 13: in this or in election will change the way we

926
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 13: currently see our futures.

927
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 6: Well, what do you think?

928
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Speaker 4: Well, what I say is the president should answer that

929
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 4: and and and through it and and by the way,

930
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 4: I think we'll have a good answer on a number

931
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,760
Speaker 4: of those of those issues. But I think the broader point,

932
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 4: and it's well taken, it is that everyday, people who

933
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 4: go out and cast a vote expecting that their lives

934
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 4: are going to change, to shift in some really demonstrable

935
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 4: way as a result of having done so, expect to

936
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Speaker 4: see it happen. And the only the thing I would

937
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Speaker 4: add to it is it should happen. And in truth,

938
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Speaker 4: many of those issues can be addressed through public policy.

939
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Speaker 4: Problem is is that it takes a cooperative house, co

940
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Speaker 4: operative Senate, a president prepared to sign it and go

941
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 4: to bat for it. And that's just part of the process.

942
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 4: I don't want anyone to walk away thinking that their

943
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 4: vote didn't matter or didn't count because their their thing

944
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Speaker 4: or one of their things didn't get cured over that

945
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 4: particular person's you know, time in office just know that

946
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 4: politics requires the long game, even though elections are every

947
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 4: two every four or so years. It requires not the

948
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 4: patience of job we ain't got, we ain't got to

949
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 4: wait for they long years. Uh, in a process that

950
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 4: that should be responsive, but it does sometimes take time.

951
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 4: Don't give up based off of of of of of

952
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 4: of unfulfilled efforts. It just means apply more pressure. And

953
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 4: guess what pressure bursts pipes, which is why it requires

954
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 4: our involvement in the process.

955
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 6: I love it. Thank you for that, Andrew.

956
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sympt us a little bit, uh and talk

957
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Speaker 1: about politics are everywhere because they are this week.

958
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Speaker 6: Here's the question where's the beef? I might I know

959
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 6: I'm not the only one to remember my commercial where's

960
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 6: the beef? Yes? Well, I got beef with Wendy's.

961
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: The fast food giant is expected to roll out serge pricing,

962
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: which is similar to what Uber does, so essentially, demand

963
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: will determine how much we pay for food the A

964
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Speaker 1: spokesperson for the company said this could start as early

965
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Speaker 1: as twenty twenty five, and they're going to be testing

966
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Speaker 1: a variety of enhanced features on digital menu boards like this.

967
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, guys, I do not like this

968
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Speaker 1: at all. Well, this is why, because first of all,

969
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Speaker 1: I don't eat a lot of fast food. But when

970
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: you consider where our people live, I think it's like

971
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: one out of every five black people live in a

972
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: food desert. So it's not like they got a whole

973
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: foods on the corner or fresh produce, you know, around

974
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: the block. And so sometimes their meals come from these

975
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: convenience stores or bodegas or fast food chains. And then

976
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 1: when you look at the well gap and how that

977
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: packs our people, Black communities are more likely to face hunger.

978
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Speaker 1: And so I think at twenty two nearly twenty three

979
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: percent of black people in this country, in this very

980
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: wealthy country, experienced food and security.

981
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Speaker 6: And so this just to me seems like corporate greed.

982
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: I don't like it at all. I think nearly nine

983
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: million black people cannot have no access to a healthy

984
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: lifestyle restaurant, et cetera. So we were talking about this

985
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 1: in our group chat, and our good friend doctor Jason

986
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 1: Johnson said, well, the employees get paid more during those

987
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: those times, and right, it just I don't know, And

988
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: there was some reporting today.

989
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 6: I don't know if you guys saw this.

990
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 1: It was about Family Dollar and they were fined forty

991
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: one point six million dollars because they were storing food

992
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: in places that were rat infested and selling it to

993
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: customers and people knew about it, and they just did it.

994
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: And so this just seems like another way to crush

995
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: our people.

996
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 6: I just don't like it, do you guys have?

997
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just saying so. The CEO of the

998
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 4: company says they detest the word surge. They don't mean

999
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 4: the comparison between them and Uber. In fact, they didn't

1000
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 4: even mean higher prices. I just want the CEO to

1001
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 4: use the word that they preferred was dynamic. They said

1002
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 4: their proposal is dynamic pricing. And I'd like the CEO

1003
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 4: to just use the word dynamic pricing in a sentence,

1004
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 4: maybe a few sentences, so that we could get a

1005
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 4: better understanding of you didn't mean higher prices at different

1006
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 4: times or lower prices at different times, then what is

1007
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 4: what exactly is dynamic pricing? Please? And by the way,

1008
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 4: to Wendy's Twitter, when I used to read it, it

1009
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 4: used to be off the chain, very you know, very

1010
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 4: direct and honest. I don't know what they're saying about this,

1011
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 4: but y'all got to correct this thing real quick because

1012
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 4: I don't know what dynamic pricing means.

1013
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 1: Right, nobody does, and they say it isn't. This is

1014
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: according to their spokesperson who told us a Fox UH

1015
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: Business reporter AI enabled H. Well, what they say is

1016
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: AI enabled menu changes and suggestive selling based on factors

1017
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: such as weather. So this is another area where AI

1018
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 1: will influence even our food product. I mean, this is

1019
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: it's it's a bigger deal than I think they are

1020
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: making it. But Wendy CEO Kirk Tanner announced this on

1021
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: an earnings call. So I just want to say I

1022
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: do not use it as a sentence.

1023
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 4: Use it in a sentence.

1024
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, let's move on.

1025
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: I want to take us back to the dirty, dirty,

1026
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: the dirty South UH and talk about what is happening

1027
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: with these attacks on DEI. I want to give a

1028
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,479
Speaker 1: shout out to the good brother Randall woodfin down there.

1029
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 1: So let me first tell you all what the story is.

1030
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Speaker 1: So there is a bill that passed in the Senate

1031
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Speaker 1: that will essentially kill any DEI funding state funding to

1032
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Speaker 1: go to schools, So any de I programs, they won't exist.

1033
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: Now take a listen to why Senator Barfoot, who is

1034
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: a Republican obviously who says why this is problematic.

1035
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 14: Those offices that would be abolished in this legislation certainly

1036
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 14: are some of the office that we're promoting the divisive

1037
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 14: type concepts.

1038
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Speaker 6: So he's saying, DEI is divisive.

1039
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,280
Speaker 1: Mayor Randall wood find he's mayor of Birmingham, a Moorhouse

1040
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: College alum a member.

1041
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 6: Of Alpha Phi Alpha.

1042
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: He said on social media that if state lawmakers passed

1043
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Speaker 1: this bill barring diversity, equity and inclusion programs in state's

1044
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: public schools and universities, he would encourage parents of minority

1045
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: student athletes to select colleges and states where diversity and

1046
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: inclusion are prioritized. This is a huge way for young

1047
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: people to exercise their power. Andrew, a lot of athletes

1048
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: come out of Florida. It's a big football town. I'm

1049
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: curious your thoughts on this.

1050
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 4: Sometimes we had like a town but yeah, Firth, good state.

1051
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 4: We have some town mentalities sometimes. But you know, the

1052
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 4: point by Mayor wood Fin is well taken. And we

1053
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 4: know that we know that the self produces a great

1054
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 4: number of athletes. We know what percentage black athletes, black

1055
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,240
Speaker 4: men particularly and black women take up in the various

1056
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 4: fields of sport, and it could be used as a

1057
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 4: real leverage should folks collectively decide, you know, decide to

1058
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 4: do so. I would just say the diversity and equity,

1059
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 4: equity and inclusion is becoming a bad word. And if

1060
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 4: we don't figure out a strategy very quick, fasten in

1061
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 4: a hurry to help put into contexts the ways in

1062
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 4: which if you aren't thinking about us, if you are

1063
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 4: not talking about us, then we are not a consideration.

1064
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 4: If we don't call out the ways in which these

1065
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 4: disparities exist and then create ways to close that gap.

1066
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 4: The only thing I can take away from you is

1067
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 4: that gap doesn't matter to you. And that's what these

1068
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 4: legislators are trying to communicate. That gap doesn't matter to them.

1069
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 4: It's never mattered to them when these who came after

1070
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 4: George Floyd. Let me tell you, it of course matters.

1071
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 4: I'm saying for those folks who are putting in place

1072
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Speaker 4: like in my state, an end, a ceasing of diversity

1073
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Speaker 4: and inclusion programs, funding targeting in that direction, the ending

1074
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 4: and obliteration of affirmative action, and so on and so forth.

1075
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 4: If you don't count it, it doesn't exist.

1076
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,760
Speaker 5: But it matters to them. The reason why they're trying

1077
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 5: to stop it is because it matters to them. They're

1078
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 5: afraid of it. Do you see what I'm saying.

1079
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 4: They are afraid we are so what I'm saying, they

1080
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 4: don't want it because it doesn't as far as the

1081
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 4: priority is there concerned.

1082
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 2: It matters to them.

1083
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 5: And let me tell you how much it matters to

1084
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 5: them that they would go even further in Senate Bill

1085
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 5: one twenty nine further than the Stopwoke Act in Florida

1086
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Speaker 5: to expand divisive concepts to include funding and recognition even

1087
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 5: for a black student union, that they would go that

1088
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Speaker 5: they would go so far as to say, and this

1089
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Speaker 5: I think is consistent with Florida's HB seven that any

1090
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 5: author who expresses that they feel complicit in past wrongs

1091
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 5: because of their identity or historical documents demonstrating historical perspectives

1092
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 5: on race, gender, or class, those readings, essays, books, and

1093
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Speaker 5: films would be prohibited. They cannot assign them. They don't

1094
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Speaker 5: even want to talk about like slavery.

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Speaker 2: What slavery?

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Speaker 5: That's just we were all roommates living together, being fed well,

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Speaker 5: sleeping well, and sharing the same land, just working on

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Speaker 5: it for fas Joe didn't.

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Speaker 4: Want to say dow here that if you call a

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00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 4: person a racist that you can be sue for liable.

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00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, I'm what I'm saying is and so if

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00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 5: I know how frustrating HB seven and the impacts of

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00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 5: it in Florida have been to you, I'm telling you

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00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 5: how the BAMA made it bigger. So one of the

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00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 5: things that my dad has been saying for many years

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00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 5: is that he is eager to see athletes not just

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00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 5: when they're existing and making money for the schools in

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00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 5: the races South Confederate South, but also the schools who

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00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 5: exist in covert practices of racism even in the North.

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00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 5: He's like, all of these black athletes need to go

1111
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 5: to HBCUs. This is why he's called for that for

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00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 5: so many years. Senate Bill one twenty nine is horrible.

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00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 5: I Mayor wood Finn, you know I reached out to

1114
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 5: you and asked for a video. This is why I

1115
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 5: knew we were going to talk about on this podcast.

1116
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 5: We talked about it on the Breakfast Club. It's major.

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00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 5: I would love to see the African American mayor's associations

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00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 5: stand together with him in this The CBC to stand

1119
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 5: together with him in this. For the one governor, we

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Speaker 5: got Wes Moore to stand with him in this, and

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00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 5: hopefully we can get some things move in a different way. Andrew,

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00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 5: I think you said earlier in another way, but DJ

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00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 5: Quick said it best. If it don't make dollars, it

1124
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 5: don't make sense. We need to make sure that we

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00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 5: take our dollars somewhere else because they're not respecting our person.

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Speaker 2: That's a remix on doctor King.

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00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 4: That's real.

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Speaker 1: Can I just put into context the dollars. This is

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00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 1: according to the latest reporting. It's kind of I think

1130
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:58,879
Speaker 1: it's from twenty seventeen, so it's probably more. But about

1131
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: twenty six percent of the popular Alabama is black. Eleven

1132
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,959
Speaker 1: percent of the students at the University of Alabama are black.

1133
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: In twenty seventeen, about eighty percent of the starters of

1134
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: the twenty seven seventeen football team were black. The head

1135
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: coach at the time, who you guys know, Nick Staban.

1136
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: He was the highest paid employee on campus, earning more

1137
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 1: than eleven million dollars annually. The next three highest paid

1138
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: individuals at the university were assistant coaches, all white. The

1139
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: football players were not paid, so they are willing to

1140
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 1: profit off our bodies, a very American thing to do,

1141
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: but not prioritize our equality and inclusion. Another thing, Angelo,

1142
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,439
Speaker 1: to your point about the legislative body and the roles

1143
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: that we play. When Scotus struck down affirmative action, they

1144
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 1: made a key exception for the military. I thought that

1145
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: was very telling. It's okay to consider quotas as they

1146
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,879
Speaker 1: would call it for the military. And I, just as

1147
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: we close on this topic, want to say what Justice

1148
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 1: Kontanji Brown Jackson observed, the Court has come to rest

1149
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: on the bottom line conclusion that racial diversity and higher

1150
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: education is only worth potentially preserving in so far as

1151
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 1: it might be needed to prepare Black Americans and other

1152
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: underrepresented minorities for success in the bunker, not.

1153
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 6: In the boardroom.

1154
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: So we got a lot of work. Were still in

1155
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: the fight. Were still in the fight, y'all, Still in

1156
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: the fight. All right, let's take a quick break. We're

1157
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: gonna be right back after this break. All right, Welcome back, everybody.

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00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: Welcome home, y'all. Native Lampard. I'm kicking it to our

1159
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: resident attorney. She's an occasional medicine woman because she sent

1160
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: me a care package, but she's gonna put her attorney

1161
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 1: hat on Angela. I you know, I am not as

1162
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: vested in this funny case as you. I want to

1163
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: know what the ladies is in this case, and I avested,

1164
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: but I hate that it's about her. I'm like, is

1165
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: he is still the person who broke He.

1166
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 2: Is still the person that broke both the law and

1167
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 2: it's not a whole case. She's not on trials. There

1168
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 2: is a fearing about her conduct. So I want us

1169
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 2: to be very you know, I'm very serious about being careful.

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00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 6: Well, they're trying to make like that. I have to

1171
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 6: be better with my words and more responsible. This is

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00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 6: a hearing. She is not on trials. She did not

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00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 6: break a law.

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00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: It is not the only thing broke. It is to

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00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: see if she can right. You're not sure, Well, they're

1176
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: not even. The question isn't even if she broke. If

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00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: she perjured herself, we have a challenge. If she perjured herself,

1178
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: we have a significant challenge.

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00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 5: But nonetheless, the question at hand is whether or not

1180
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 5: Fannie Willis and the Fulton County DA's Office writ large

1181
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 5: will be disqualified from prosecuting Donald Trump and his eighteen

1182
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 5: co defendants.

1183
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 2: It's nerve wracking. You don't want any distraction.

1184
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 5: You want this thing to go forward, because you were like,

1185
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 5: let's just get to the testimony, let's present all the evidence.

1186
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 5: But right now, the only evidence that anybody's considering is

1187
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 5: what when Nathan Wade went to her house for the

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00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 5: first time, when they started texting, what they were texting.

1189
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 5: That's likely to come up later on this week. By

1190
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 5: the time this pod airs, they'll be prepping for that,

1191
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 5: and apparently Nathan Wade's business partner, Terrence Bradley, was on

1192
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 5: the stand on Tuesday, and right now we're going to

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00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 5: take a listen.

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00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 11: That's a simple question, mister Bradley, you're a lawyer. Did

1195
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 11: you lie to miss Merchant when you told her facts

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00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 11: about mister Wade and missus Willis's relationship, Not.

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Speaker 15: That I recall. I don't recall. I mentioned earlier that

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Speaker 15: I speculated on some things. I've testified to what I

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Speaker 15: did know, so I can't recall whether or.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 11: Mister Bradley's speculation is kind of a weasily lawyer word.

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Speaker 4: Let's speak truth here that you're under a the argumented it.

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Speaker 4: At this point, you're on a relevant question, mister.

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Speaker 6: Brads find the question, mister Russ, mister.

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Speaker 11: Bradley, when you're communicating different details of the relationship between

1206
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 11: miss Willis and mister Wade to missus merchant, did you

1207
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Speaker 11: lie to her about any of those details?

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Speaker 4: Conjection has to answer the life.

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Speaker 11: I don't think he's answered you.

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01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 15: I don't recall ever.

1211
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Speaker 3: Whether any of it was a liar or not.

1212
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Speaker 5: Okay, So here you have Yeah, here you have someone

1213
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Speaker 5: who's under oath. He's trying not to perjure himself. At

1214
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 5: least this is the appearance. I'm not gonna say anything.

1215
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 5: He appears to be trying not to perjure himself. Do

1216
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 5: not recall is normally a safe bet. And at some

1217
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 5: point in his testimony he references the fact that he speculated.

1218
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 5: And this is the thing that I want to say

1219
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 5: to you as a black woman in this country. And

1220
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Speaker 5: then I'm gonna put my lawyer back, lawyer hat back on.

1221
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 5: The thing that I want to say to you as

1222
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Speaker 5: a black woman in this country is shut your ass up.

1223
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 2: Now back with my lawyer. Had I'm gonna say, you know,

1224
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 2: this is really this presents a real issue.

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01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 5: You don't want to have someone speculating on your relationship

1226
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 5: and then putting you more in the crosshairs of something,

1227
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 5: creating more of a distraction. And what is I know,

1228
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 5: Fani Willis's biggest trial of her life, Nathan Waye's biggest

1229
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 5: trial of his life. You do not want to be

1230
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 5: the distraction. This is why a lot of folks don't

1231
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 5: take cases like these, because their personal lives aren't above approach.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying they're not, but right now we got

1233
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 2: a little bit of smoke.

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01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you I watched the entire hearing yesterday.

1235
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 4: The brother said in an undisputed way that he did

1236
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 4: not have any personal direct knowledge of when the relationship started.

1237
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 4: So if what we're trying to get to is a

1238
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 4: definitive on the date of when it started in the

1239
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 4: end of twenty nineteen or in January, February or March

1240
01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 4: of twenty twenty, he couldn't provide that. So I know

1241
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 4: the records on Friday, go ahead.

1242
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 6: I'm sorry.

1243
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 2: Do you know why he was on the stand?

1244
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 4: I do know why he was, understand because he texted.

1245
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 2: Text messages speculating.

1246
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 4: For sure and all.

1247
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 2: He shouldn't have done that.

1248
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 4: He should not have done that of course he shouldn't have,

1249
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 4: but he seemed all too eager to want to throw

1250
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 4: himself into that. Now, mind you, this is also a

1251
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 4: lawyer who parted ways with Nathan Wade because there was

1252
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 4: an allegation at the firm of sexual assault or misconduct

1253
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 4: by this gentleman. And so we've had two face to

1254
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 4: face witnesses who have who had put themselves into a

1255
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 4: position of being a fact witness, who both have access

1256
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:41,479
Speaker 4: to grind with the two principles that subject here, mister

1257
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 4: Nathan Wade and of course UH District Attorney Fannie Willis,

1258
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 4: so the only two people who supposedly saw her or

1259
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 4: done anything done. But between these two people are both compromised.

1260
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Speaker 4: He was completely and compellingly unconvincing and uncompelling in his

1261
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 4: testimony yesterday. But I have to tell you, I can't

1262
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 4: see why bar bar Georgia attorneys would make statements and

1263
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 4: profit profess before the court and other filings that that

1264
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 4: that they have done something or didn't do something that

1265
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 4: actually can be proved that that occurred and perjured themselves

1266
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 4: and they lose their bar license. I don't know why.

1267
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Speaker 4: Three not counting including him, now three bar attorneys would

1268
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 4: do that. So it's just I'm sick of the fact

1269
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 4: that I feel like the judge by going down every

1270
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 4: rabbit hole, exposed every rabbit hole, I think is expanding

1271
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 4: this way beyond the scope that is necessary and required.

1272
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 4: Because doing that, the judge, he's making.

1273
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 5: The decision, but he's being asked by the Trump attorneys,

1274
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 5: And I think that the thing that we have to

1275
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 5: be mindful of is the thing keeps unraveling. The first

1276
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 5: issue at play was whether or not she financially benefited

1277
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 5: from this relationship at all. Then it started to become

1278
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,919
Speaker 5: a parent that conflict of interest was even more at play.

1279
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 5: Now there's a third issue beginning to unravel, and that

1280
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 5: is perjury. Yeah, but it is the responsibility of the

1281
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 5: judge to be impartial, to hear both sides and if

1282
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 5: they're like the reason why this took so long is

1283
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 5: because this man got on the stand, said more than

1284
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 5: he needed to say and then tried to rope it

1285
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 5: all back in. It is like, oh, actually, this is

1286
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 5: protected by attorney client privilege. Well, you already exposed yourself

1287
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 5: to violating attorney client privilege by oversharing on the stand.

1288
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 5: There had to be a separate conversation with the judge

1289
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 5: about that they are making. There's a ton of unforced errors.

1290
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, y'all, there are a ton of Andrew, you

1291
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 5: and I we are in agreement.

1292
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 4: What I'm saying is every door that is open, every

1293
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:45,479
Speaker 4: door that is apparently opened in this case is also

1294
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 4: summarily closed without ever reaching the determination that she had profited,

1295
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 4: that she had conflict, or that the relationship began outside

1296
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 4: of when she said so.

1297
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 2: That's because the evidence is still being presented.

1298
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 4: But every hole they can go down, and that the

1299
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 4: judge allows. He had to allow whether or not a

1300
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 4: phone records are going to come into play here. He

1301
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 4: had to allow whether or not he was going to

1302
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 4: strip the attorney client privilege back to uh uh not come.

1303
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 5: After the attorney violated it on the stand. Though, I

1304
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 5: just I think we need to this judge. I'm gonna

1305
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 5: like you. You very rarely hear me defend a white judge.

1306
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 5: This judge has been very fair. He's been He checked them.

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Speaker 5: When Fannie Willis was getting asked and answered the question

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Speaker 5: over here, He's like, we've been down this, We're doing

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Speaker 5: this with fine.

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Speaker 4: He didn't do it yesterday. Yesterday he overrode nearly every

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Speaker 4: objection made by.

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Speaker 2: H because the guy was not answering the question.

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Speaker 4: No, because he was answering it, it wasn't to his satisfaction.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it wasn't to his belief And therefore.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we just watched his testimony. It's hard for

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Speaker 2: me to believe it there was. That's why my.

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Speaker 4: Thought I thought he was terribly unconvincing. All I'm simply

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Speaker 4: saying is the judge has a complete amount of discretion

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Speaker 4: on what avenues allowed that he allows to be open,

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Speaker 4: and this man needed to be able to prove that

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Speaker 4: he could be a fact witness. Here's sake is probably the.

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Speaker 5: Judge is probably being careful now because his contribution to

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Speaker 5: Fannie Willis of one hundred and fifty damned dollars is

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Speaker 5: now in question.

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Speaker 2: Like he hast be okay, he gotta be a person.

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Speaker 4: I think we could judge is certainly presenting himself as

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Speaker 4: impartial on on on the side of the Trump defense.

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Speaker 4: Certainly I think he is.

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Speaker 6: He can I well, can I just hop in here.

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Speaker 1: I just want to remind everybody that we have Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump on asking elected officials to five eleven thousand votes

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Speaker 1: while we are going over minutia of this woman answering

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Speaker 1: what she could have, should have would have done. But

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Speaker 1: the bottom line is these people try to upend democracy

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Speaker 1: and that is a very serious charge and a serious issue.

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Speaker 1: And when these two started banging old work should not

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Speaker 1: be messing up her presenting this case. That should be

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Speaker 1: issue in for this man trying to steal an election.

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Speaker 6: That's a very SERI.

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Speaker 4: Be clear that this act has now become a complete circus.

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Speaker 4: What isn't act? Yeah, now become and it is nobody's

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Speaker 4: one fault. But I can tell you Fannie could have

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Speaker 4: nipped this in the bud. I'm sorry, Da Willis could

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Speaker 4: have nipped this in the bud by never having hired

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Speaker 4: this gentleman in the first place.

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Speaker 1: Given what maybe, but this is where we are, and

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Speaker 1: I just I don't want to follow their narrative and

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Speaker 1: what she's doing. The narrative is this man is on

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Speaker 1: tape asking to find eleven thousand votes. That to me,

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Speaker 1: it should always be there is you guys talking about well,

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Speaker 1: but you guys talking about this has made me think

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Speaker 1: of another case, and that is of Marilyn Moseby. So

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Speaker 1: I for those who don't know Marilyn Moseby, the attorney

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Speaker 1: the Baltimore DA, former Baltimore DA who brought charges in

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Speaker 1: the Freddy Gaate case great case, has now caught a

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Speaker 1: case herself.

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Speaker 6: I want us to talk about that.

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Speaker 1: We don't have time because we're out of time this week,

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Speaker 1: but maybe next week or or the week after.

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Speaker 5: You guys that I just want to say, just as

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Speaker 5: you know, well, I know we're not at calls to

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Speaker 5: action yet, but I think we're close.

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Speaker 6: Comes to call to action, perfect segue and will kick

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Speaker 6: us off call to action.

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Speaker 5: Mine is Marilyn Moseby reflected what black prosecutors should look

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Speaker 5: like as a state's attorney in Baltimore, and what I

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Speaker 5: will tell you is my one ask is that these cases,

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Speaker 5: there's two cases that she's caught. As sentencing come draws near,

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Speaker 5: that the administ administration, the Biden administration, remembers the discretion,

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Speaker 5: the full discretion it has to pardon people who have

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Speaker 5: only been out to seek justice. The DOJ should have

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Speaker 5: never had her on their target lists. We talk about

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Speaker 5: five thousand dollars, and we'll talk more about what this

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Speaker 5: five thousand dollars is later, but there's no reason, no,

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Speaker 5: she should never spend a day in prison. She should

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Speaker 5: not be prevented from practicing law because this should not

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Speaker 5: be on her record. Her records should be expunged, she

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Speaker 5: should be clear, she should be completely pardoned. And that's

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Speaker 5: my call to action this week.

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Speaker 4: Well where you know where I would be on that,

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Speaker 4: because I think the the the the targeting of black

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Speaker 4: elected officials who are impacting in significant ways on society,

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Speaker 4: largely contrary to what the governing powers in different cities, counties, states,

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Speaker 4: and this nation would like. And they are and they

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Speaker 4: and they bring down swift response when they deem necessary.

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Speaker 4: And I think this is the case we ought to

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Speaker 4: illuminate for every listener out there in every part of

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Speaker 4: this country. We ought to be making noise about targeted prosecutions,

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Speaker 4: that's for sure.

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Speaker 6: Yes, yes, all right, So was that your call to actually.

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Speaker 4: Oh well, my really was something was said I think

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Speaker 4: last week Angelo, we were in that conversation about the

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Speaker 4: video and you said, you know they're playing this on

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Speaker 4: Fox News and I said, yeah, I know, but I

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Speaker 4: don't know because there isn't a conservative outlet out there

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Speaker 4: I necessarily listen to because it get hot, get heated.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to ask that you all choose to join me.

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Speaker 4: Not you too, because you apparently already do, but that

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Speaker 4: the listeners if you are like me and you can't

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Speaker 4: really tolerate nonsense that we spend ten minutes this week

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Speaker 4: deliberately listening to a well known or known about conservative

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Speaker 4: outlet and just hearing what is said. Just give us

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Speaker 4: ten minutes of it and let's see how we emerge

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Speaker 4: from it. I'm gonna do it, and I'll share with

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Speaker 4: y'all how I feel. And I'm asking that I not

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Speaker 4: be the only one going through this missive that others

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Speaker 4: join me in trying to hear an opinion of voice,

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Speaker 4: a thought different than their own.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, thank you for that. I know we

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Speaker 1: said a lot about Marilyn Moseby. We will fill in

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Speaker 1: the gap when we talk about this. We want to

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Speaker 1: give her the appropriate amount of breath that do this

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Speaker 1: case deserve. So please join us. Next week we'll revisit

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Speaker 1: this topic because it's a really big deal for us. Andrew,

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Speaker 1: I completely respect you, I love you. You know that

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Speaker 1: I am a black woman. I grew up Bisueia, Ohio

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Speaker 1: and Georgia. I know how conservative white folks think. Enough,

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Speaker 1: I don't have a bit of any more intellectual curiosity

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Speaker 1: about that.

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Speaker 6: I have lived experience with it, but you know, more

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01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 6: power to those who want to do it.

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Speaker 1: So I try to give a call to action that's

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Speaker 1: not really political, and so something that I'm working on

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01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 1: that has been really challenging for me, and so I

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Speaker 1: am inviting other people to do this with me is patience.

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Speaker 1: On my way here, my Uber driver was like he

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Speaker 1: was a slow driver. He couldn't find my building. You know,

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Speaker 1: I was frustrated I was getting here. The people the

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Speaker 1: front door were driving me crazy. I was just short

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Speaker 1: with everybody. And I think sometimes the universe sends me

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Speaker 1: situations to teach me patients, to take a breath, to

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Speaker 1: treat other people with grace, and we can easily forget

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Speaker 1: about that, you know, when you're in a rush, you're

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01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 1: trying to do something, and you know, try to think,

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Speaker 1: like if this were my mother, how would I want

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Speaker 1: someone talking to her? Because or my child, how would

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Speaker 1: I want someone talking to them? So take a breath,

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Speaker 1: be kind, extend grace to others, and it's kindness is

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Speaker 1: free and it's contagious. You know, sometimes I'm in a

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Speaker 1: bad mood and I just walk outside my house around

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Speaker 1: the block. Uh, and I pet dogs. That makes me

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Speaker 1: feel great. But just seeing people smiling at people, it

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01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 1: can make us all a better community. So just a

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Speaker 1: lesson in kindness and patience. And look, I'm a work

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01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 1: in progress, so that would be my ask. I love

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Speaker 1: it some love, kindness and patience. Before we go, one

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Speaker 1: quick thing, we have one final viewer question. We won't

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Speaker 1: answer it, but just take.

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Speaker 14: A quickness able to Chris flow this video submission for y'all.

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Speaker 14: Question for y'all, I'll keep it short. Where did you

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Speaker 14: get the name Native lamp Podcast? What does it mean

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01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 14: to be native to you? These people that say, you know,

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01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:10,680
Speaker 14: off of America. My dad has been from America. You

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01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 14: know that's not necessarily being native.

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Speaker 2: Chris, welcome home. Thank you so much for that question.

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Speaker 5: We actually answer that question in our promo recording for

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Speaker 5: Native LAMPID, but it's come up so much in questions

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01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 5: in comments online. People ask about it when we go

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01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:30,680
Speaker 5: and talk about this show on air. Because of how

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Speaker 5: much we've been asked about this, and you all want

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01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 5: to hear our explanation of Native lampod. We're doing a

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Speaker 5: separate mini pod episode that will drop this upcoming Tuesday

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Speaker 5: where you can hear all about it and let us

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Speaker 5: know how you feel. Make sure that you download that episode,

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Speaker 5: you watch it on YouTube, you talk about it in

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Speaker 5: the comments, let us know what you think.

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Speaker 6: I love that. All right, Thank you to my co

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Speaker 6: host for a pact show today.

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Speaker 1: Before we end the show, I do want to thank

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Speaker 1: all of you guys for weighing in every week with

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Speaker 1: your com on YouTube, your comments on our social media handles,

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Speaker 1: your videos that you send, please keep them coming.

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Speaker 6: We love hearing from you.

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Speaker 1: We want to make sure that this is an interactive conversation.

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Speaker 1: Please be sure to leave us a review. Let us

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Speaker 1: know what you think about the show. We try to

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Speaker 1: make this interact to conversation this week, so give us

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01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 1: your thoughts on all the topics that we talked about.

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Speaker 1: We're available on all platforms including YouTube. New episodes drop

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Speaker 1: every Thursday. You can also follow us on social media.

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Speaker 1: We are Tiffany Cross, Angela Rai, and Andrew Gillum and

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Speaker 1: there are two hundred and forty nine days until election Day.

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