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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan, and this is episode number three

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Speaker 1: and today the show, we're diving deep into the story

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Speaker 1: of how we found and purchased our meat Eater back

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Speaker 1: forty Farm and advice for finding your own special piece

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Speaker 1: of ground. If you've ever dreamed voning hunting property, this

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Speaker 1: one's for you. Okay, hello folks, and welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Wired to Hunt Podcast, brought to you by on x Tay.

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Speaker 1: The show, we are shifting gears a little bit, as

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Speaker 1: many of you are probably switching gears in your minds too.

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Speaker 1: You know, the holidays are here and the deer hunting

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Speaker 1: season is either wrapped up for you or very soon

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Speaker 1: will be. So well, that said, we're gonna start looking

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Speaker 1: forward a little bit to the new year. Now almost

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Speaker 1: exactly a year ago. At the beginning of last year,

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Speaker 1: I was just beginning a project process that honestly was

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Speaker 1: really daunting. For the first time in my life, I

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Speaker 1: was trying to find a piece of hunting land to buy.

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Speaker 1: It's something that so many of us, dream of, we

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Speaker 1: wonder about, we imagine um. And it's something that I

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Speaker 1: always assumed that when I had the means to do it,

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Speaker 1: to actually purchase hunting property, it'd just be a piece

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Speaker 1: of cake once you could do it, It's just all

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Speaker 1: rainbows and butterflies. But I quickly found out that's not

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Speaker 1: exactly true. There's a lot more to it than I realized.

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Speaker 1: But as most of you know, I was able to

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Speaker 1: find a piece of ground, and together with me either

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Speaker 1: we bought it. We bought the Back forty and it's

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Speaker 1: now being documented for this new show called The Back forty.

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Speaker 1: So today what I wanted to do was pull back

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Speaker 1: the curtains on the story of that search. You know,

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Speaker 1: everything that happened to be getting how we decided the

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Speaker 1: types of places we were looking for, and the struggles

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Speaker 1: I had finding a spot, what the criteria were um

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Speaker 1: and then ultimately once we decide okay, this is the

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Speaker 1: property we want, what all goes into actually putting in

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Speaker 1: an offer and dealing with the landowner and figuring out

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Speaker 1: all these other little bits of minutia that I had

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Speaker 1: no idea about. That's what we're gonna talk about. What

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Speaker 1: I learned along the way, the ins and outs of

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Speaker 1: how we were able to purchase this piece of sixty

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Speaker 1: four acres, and everything you need to do to go

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Speaker 1: through the same process yourself if someday down the road

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Speaker 1: you decided something you want to do. So that's what

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Speaker 1: we've gotten store today. Joining me for the conversation is

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Speaker 1: Joe giz Dick and Sean Kelly, the team members from

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Speaker 1: White Tail Properties who helped me through this process last spring. Uh.

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Speaker 1: This conversation was recorded earlier this year, just after we

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Speaker 1: bought the farm, so as you listen to it, you'll

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Speaker 1: hear me full of optimism and this unknown I don't

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Speaker 1: know what's the what the year has in store. Now

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Speaker 1: many of you do know it was all sorts of

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Speaker 1: interesting things happened, struggles, trials and tribulations, and some some

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Speaker 1: amazing success too along the way. So without further ado,

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Speaker 1: let's take a break to think a couple of our partners,

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Speaker 1: and then we'll get right to my chat with Joe

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Speaker 1: and Sean. Before we do that, though, I gotta give

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Speaker 1: a little plug here to that back forty series I

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Speaker 1: just mentioned, because if you've not seen these episodes over

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Speaker 1: on the Meteor YouTube channel. You gotta check it out. Uh,

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Speaker 1: they're coming along. Our project has been full of, as

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Speaker 1: I mentioned, ups and downs, and I think our videos

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Speaker 1: are showcasing that in a way that's pretty compelling. I

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Speaker 1: might be biased, but our last two episodes of the

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Speaker 1: season just came out. This showcases my ultimate success finally

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Speaker 1: trying to kill Mature Buck, and then the second episode

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Speaker 1: kind of recaps the recovery and some special moments that

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Speaker 1: I shared with my son and my father. Uh, and

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Speaker 1: it's probably my favorite work we've done to date yet.

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Speaker 1: So go on over to the media to YouTube channel.

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Speaker 1: We've got seven episodes out right now. Check it out.

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Speaker 1: Feedback has been great. I think you'll enjoy it, and

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Speaker 1: probably you should watch that first before listening to this

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Speaker 1: episode because it will kind of color what's possible if

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Speaker 1: a couple of partners too, all right with me? Now

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Speaker 1: to actually work with someone at white Tail Properties in

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Speaker 1: So I'm looking at this thing from a whole new

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Speaker 1: white Tail Properties. So maybe Joe, could you quickly introduce

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Speaker 1: Sean you can hop on out of that. So I'm

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Speaker 1: Joe gives think I'm based out of Pitchfield Out, Illinois

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Speaker 1: out of our home office. I'm sales manager for white

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Speaker 1: Tail Properties real Estate and also run our auction division,

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Speaker 1: which is ranching farm auptions. UH. For years, I was

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Speaker 1: a sales eight and just like Sean, Sean UH that

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Speaker 1: had the opportunity of those other agents. Jean, Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: Sean Kelly. I'm the Southeast Michigan in South central Michigan

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Speaker 1: agent for white Tail Properties UM help people buy and

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Speaker 1: sell land in the south the Machine area. And and

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Speaker 1: that's why you know, you and me start working because

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Speaker 1: I'm glad it worked out that way because I've really

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Speaker 1: enjoyed getting to chat with you more Sean and getting

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Speaker 1: game plan here today was to to kind of share

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Speaker 1: that story, UM, while you guys are here with me,

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Speaker 1: an interesting conversation. So we will start at the very beginning,

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Speaker 1: But at a high level, what I was looking for

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Speaker 1: like that. I looked at the neighborhood. Who else was

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Speaker 1: Um at a really high level where some of the

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Speaker 1: when I say neighbors, not just you know, the people,

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Speaker 1: and if one of your goals is is big bucks

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Speaker 1: Would you add anything else as far as how to

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Speaker 1: buyers remorse after they get the closing, or something else

432
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 1: comes on the market in a month that's closer to

433
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,880
Speaker 1: home or a better fit for their needs or whatever.

434
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 1: So you're you're gonna lose some you're gonna win something.

435
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 1: You just gotta realize you can't take it personally, can't

436
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,119
Speaker 1: take it. It can't be discouraged by it. I'm just

437
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 1: gonna learn from every transaction or non transaction. I'm gonna

438
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 1: learn from every property I look at. I'm gonna refine

439
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 1: my criteria every time I go out, and I'm gonna

440
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 1: work with somebody who's gonna help me refine that criteria.

441
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure if you look at several part

442
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 1: of Sean as you went through, he was all of

443
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,160
Speaker 1: a sudden, he knows what you want. You don't even

444
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 1: have a column, and something comes on the market. He

445
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 1: can call you right away and let you know that

446
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,639
Speaker 1: that that property is on uh, either coming to the

447
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,439
Speaker 1: market or on the market. He knew about it, so

448
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,439
Speaker 1: he can help search that down for because he's been

449
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,199
Speaker 1: able to spend enough time with you to learn what

450
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 1: you want. Yeah, and I did have that experience with

451
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 1: with Shaun and some other ages because I was kind

452
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,159
Speaker 1: of looking at all these different regions. So so everyone

453
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 1: was really helpful in that kind of way. And with

454
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,919
Speaker 1: this one in particular. You know, I've been talking to

455
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 1: Tim about it, and he did keep me abreast of

456
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,359
Speaker 1: some different offers coming in, and then that got me

457
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,439
Speaker 1: a little worried because I had that first interest, and

458
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:25,639
Speaker 1: then I was like, Okay, I need to wait, I

459
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,479
Speaker 1: need to look at least something else, just to have

460
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 1: some context, something to compare against, you know. Um. But

461
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 1: then another offer did come in. Uh. Fortunately it was

462
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 1: at the moment it was like a low ball offer

463
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 1: and they didn't take it. So I still thought I

464
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 1: had time. So I remember starting to try to go

465
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 1: deeper with my research process. And this is a little

466
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 1: thing that I started to do throughout this whole, uh,

467
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 1: this whole handful month period here that I really did

468
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 1: try to put a lot of time behind the research

469
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 1: of a neighborhood because like you guys both said, especially

470
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,919
Speaker 1: when you're going to buy a small property, you know,

471
00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,919
Speaker 1: so much of what's going to happen on your property

472
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 1: going to be influenced by who's around you. And if

473
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 1: you want to be able to hunt mature box or

474
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 1: see a lot of deer or whatever it is you're

475
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: trying to do, um, it's it's really helpful if the

476
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,719
Speaker 1: other people around you are on a similar page. And

477
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 1: so what I did it's a little creepy, maybe, but

478
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 1: I did it. UM was. I started googling all the

479
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 1: property owners around that farm. So I would find the

480
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 1: names on onyx or like in the tax records, and

481
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 1: I would start searching for their name, and then things

482
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: the keywords related to deer hunting. So I would look

483
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 1: for like John Dear, and we'll just say his name

484
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 1: is John Deer. I looked for John Deere deer hunting.

485
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: Or I would look for John Doe. Maybe it's about

486
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 1: John Doe hunting, John Doe buck, John Doe big buck.

487
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,239
Speaker 1: And just to see if like you know, someone had

488
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 1: their picture posted on Facebook, or if someone was in

489
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: an article or whatever it might be. I don't know,

490
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 1: just to see what happened, and it actually worked in

491
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 1: this case on this property because one of the neighboring

492
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 1: property owners got featured in a local newspaper because him

493
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 1: and his wife had both killed really big bucks on

494
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: opening day gun season, and they made the news. So

495
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 1: I was thinking, man, this is great, Like I can

496
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 1: see that in late neighboring landowner shot two really nice

497
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 1: mature box on the same day right next to this place.

498
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 1: So that tells me, like, all right, in the general area,

499
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 1: there's some good deer um. I also talked to Tim,

500
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,400
Speaker 1: who was able to talk to the landowner and get

501
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 1: me a little bit of information about what the previous

502
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 1: owner had done from a hunting standpoint um. And then

503
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 1: I also looked at Onyx maps and just looked for

504
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,360
Speaker 1: names I recognized. Again, this might be a little bit,

505
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if that's Stoker or not,

506
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: but it's just doing due diligence when you're buying this stuff,

507
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: and I just want to see, like, do I recognize

508
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: any names? And I happened to recognize the name of

509
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,719
Speaker 1: of a of a person who's somewhat known, who I

510
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: had heard had had a lot of success in this area.

511
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 1: The general area and lo and behold this person's properties

512
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 1: within like a mile. So that gave me another really

513
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 1: big like, oh, and you're in a good area. You

514
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: know of two different people around here that take hunting

515
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 1: pretty seriously and they're doing pretty well. You've got good cover,

516
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 1: you got out all these things. Um, is there anything

517
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 1: else that you guys have done on that on the

518
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 1: research side, Like, because everyone says the neighbor you gotta

519
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 1: gotta pay attention to the neighborhood. You need to look

520
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: for good neighbors. You need to look for that. But

521
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: it's it's harder than it's easier said than done, I

522
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 1: guess is what I've experienced a little bit. Is there

523
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 1: anything else you guys have done or heard people doing

524
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 1: to learn not Google? Search on Facebook suits searching something

525
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 1: we as agents and land specialists do too. If if

526
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,919
Speaker 1: you call me as a buyer, I'm gonna pride google

527
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,719
Speaker 1: you a little bit. I'm gonna learn a little bit

528
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: about you. I want to know what makes you chick

529
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: and whether what you're saying is anything true. Same way

530
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 1: you call me to sell a farm, I made google you.

531
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look you up. I'll Facebook, yes, the whole

532
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 1: ball of wax just and I don't think it's stock

533
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: or a shot. I think it's due diligence. I think

534
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: I encourage everybody to do that when you're looking at

535
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: those places on Onyx or any other mapping programs that

536
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: you may use. UM. I I like to look for

537
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: larger landowners too, especially when you're having a looking for

538
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 1: a smaller tract, if you're surrounded by larger landowners and

539
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 1: that it doesn't have to be thousands of acres, But

540
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 1: if it's larger landowners, uh, it's always better. It's you know,

541
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: a large land arm may have a couple of four

542
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: hundred acres, may have two or three people a hunted. Uh.

543
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: The same may be the case of if it's a forty,

544
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 1: so there maybe two or three people hunting that forty. Uh,

545
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: So you've got a bunch of forties, you're gonna have

546
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 1: a little bit different hunting pressure than if you do

547
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: if you have a bunch of larger landowners around you.

548
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 1: So a small parcel in a a larger landowner area

549
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 1: is definitely a plum, but they generally don't laugh. That

550
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: larger landowner will snap them up before they even hit

551
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 1: the markets. Yeah, what about you showing anything else as

552
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 1: far as researching the neighborhood. No, I think, like I

553
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: think what you what you did is something that you know,

554
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: we land specialists do already, Like we're we're familiar with

555
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,719
Speaker 1: our territories, and like there's you know, certain areas like

556
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 1: you know and big Buck Nights that I go to,

557
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: and like I can tell you what big bucks on

558
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: what year at the you know, big Buck show were

559
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 1: shot in certain areas, And like in my head, like

560
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: when I'm when I'm listening property or showing property, I'm

561
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: usually always bringing up like this, this buck was shot here,

562
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: that was within a mile of this this property. Um

563
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: the Ladies State cross bow record here, that's within a

564
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: mile of this property. This guy's you know two year

565
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 1: was shot within a mile of this property. And you know,

566
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 1: things that you did are things that we all do,

567
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: I think, And and that's where a lot of our

568
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: you know, expertise comes in that we've done a lot

569
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: of that homework and I have a lot of it

570
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: readily available. Yeah, I will say that was a nice

571
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: thing to have being able to talk to you and

572
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 1: Tim and Tony um in your respective areas. Was the

573
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: fact that I knew that who I was talking to,

574
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: you knew what they were talking about. I knew that

575
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: they were speaking the same language. And the fact that, UM,

576
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: I think that when you talk to a regular real

577
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: estate agent who's just trying to sell land, they don't

578
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: really know what would be a quality area. Which areas

579
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: are the good ones? Like there was a property I

580
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 1: looked at that was not listed with the white tailed properties,

581
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 1: just a random real estate agent, and Uh. I talked

582
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: to this person and I said, Hey, do you know

583
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 1: anything about the neighborhood? Do you know anything about the

584
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: other landowners to have you heard of them practicing quality

585
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: deer management or anything. I happen to see a sign

586
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 1: on one barn, do you know anything about that? Kind

587
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: of talk to the landowner and the agents like oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

588
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: it's it's it's really really good area. UM. I've heard

589
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: lots of great things about this very high quality hunting area. UM.

590
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: And she's like going on and on about that, and

591
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: she's like, just last year, I think they killed like

592
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: seven dough or seven bucks. I think they're like a

593
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: five point there was a seven point UM. And I'm

594
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: thinking to myself, Oh, we're not speaking the same language

595
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: like um, you're yeah yeah. So so I think just

596
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: knowing who you're talking too and in the lens of

597
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: looking at this stuff with UH makes a big difference.

598
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: So it was nice at least with you guys that

599
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: I knew that you would have a pulse, your finger

600
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,239
Speaker 1: on the pulse of what was going on in these

601
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: different regions, and that was I would add to that

602
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: that I would encourage somebody who's looking to buy to

603
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: getting gage with a land specialists because they could show

604
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: anything that's listened that you don't have to talk to

605
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: the listing agent because the listening agent sometimes doesn't know anything.

606
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: It's her uncle's or brother's farm or somebody. I mean

607
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of listening agents really don't

608
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: know much about hunting and recreational value. You need to

609
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: see that in our listenings. They don't have one aerial photo,

610
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: one picture, or one tree. I would engage as they

611
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: buyer with a land specialist like Sean and say, hey,

612
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: here's what I'm looking for, and I looked at Jane

613
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: does listing over here? Can you call her? Can we

614
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: go look at this? Can you can you tell me

615
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: anything about this area? Because I promise you a guy

616
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: like Sean knows more about that area than the listening

617
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: agent at the time. That's why, that's why with our corporation,

618
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: we bet all these guys to a point, and Sean'll

619
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: tell you that the interview process is pretty rigorous. We

620
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: bet all these guys because we want them to be

621
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: land special. It's not just on what they are listing,

622
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: but their whole territory, their whole region. We want them

623
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: to know that inside and that we wanted them to

624
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: know where every big buck skilled, all the landowners, who

625
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: the best farm tenant is, uh, et cetera. They we

626
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: want them to know everything. So I would engage them.

627
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: If I was a buyer, I would engage somebody I

628
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: felt comfortable with, someone like Sean, and say, here's what

629
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: I'm looking for, and I found a couple of these

630
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: although they're listening with competitors. Can you find information out

631
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: about them for me? Because the misconception is that you

632
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: have called the listing agent all time and you don't

633
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: find find an agent that you're comfortable with and use

634
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: them as your buyers agent and no additional charge to you.

635
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: I mean, that's all that's all paid out of the

636
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: original commission. Most most buyers don't understand that. But if

637
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: you find somebody you like and trust, stay with that person,

638
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,959
Speaker 1: they can show you anything. Yeah, that was the biggest

639
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: Probably Ahama went from me out of this whole process

640
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: because I didn't understand that. I thought. I thought I

641
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: had to talk to whoever the listing agent was. And

642
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: then I thought that if I brought in another agent

643
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: like I had, someone else mentioned me, Hey, you know,

644
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: do you need a buyer's agent And the initial reaction was, well,

645
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. I need to talk to like some

646
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: other people and I don't even know if we want

647
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: an agent involved, Like does that make things more complicated?

648
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: Is that going to have like increased fees? Um So?

649
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: I was initially like resistant to that idea. I thought,

650
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: I can just find stuff find myself. I'm savvy on

651
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: the internet. Um, I'll be fine. Uh looking back on

652
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: it now, after after being now at the end of

653
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: the process, I wish I had pulled in a buyer's

654
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,239
Speaker 1: agent like Sean earlier than I did, because it ended

655
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: up being really really helpful. Couldn't have done it without

656
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: him Now on the end looking at it, um So, So, Yes,

657
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: A hund percent agree with that. Now, not only getting

658
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: a knowledge base, but you're also getting the benefit of

659
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: knowing for anybody else. If you engage that person, say hey,

660
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: this is what I'm looking for and it maybe you're

661
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: looking for sixty acres, but Sean knows a four acres.

662
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: The guy, so I'll sell a couple of pieces off

663
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: of it. Now, all of sudden, that's something that never

664
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: hit the market as a sixty. It maybe hit the

665
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: market as a forty, but he knows that could be

666
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: split off and it fits your criteria. The only way

667
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: to do that is to engage with somebody you trust

668
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: and believe in and we build that relationship with and

669
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: once you do that, that guy will go to work

670
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: for you trying to find something that fits your criteria. Yeah,

671
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: that brings up another challenge I dealt with, which was

672
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: because of my small area that I was interested in.

673
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: I looked at the different options that White Tell Properties

674
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: had and there were a couple of good options, but

675
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: they didn't fit my budget. And there's a couple of

676
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: good options that were a couple of options within my

677
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: budget but just weren't quite fitting all the criteria had.

678
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: So I walked I think four different farms that you

679
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: guys had listed, of which you know there are a

680
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: couple possibly, but eventually I decided, now I just don't

681
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be the right fit. So then I

682
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: was like, well, what am I gonna do? Now? Where

683
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: am I going to find something? So I just started

684
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: like searching every possible online real estate website I could

685
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: think of, and googling different keywords and going just through

686
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: all sorts of different filters. And that became like a long,

687
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: frustrating experience. But I did a lot of searching online

688
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: trying to find stuff. Do you guys, have you know,

689
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: any other advice or recommendations as far as finding something

690
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: or how do you guys go about it? Once you say, okay,

691
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: we want something in this let's say two county area

692
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: that we're gonna say that John Doe really wants to

693
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: farm in these two counties, but you know, there just

694
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: doesn't There isn't one that white Tailed properties is listed

695
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: that fits that criteria. What's the next step that you

696
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: guys would recommend taking? Um either yourselves as a buyer's Asian,

697
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: if you're working with someone, or if I'm an individual

698
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: and I'm just searching anything to make that easier. Um,

699
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: any other ideas other than what I did? I don't know, Sean,

700
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: Do you have anything you'd you'd suggest? Um? I think

701
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: what you did is is pretty typical in a good

702
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: place to start, you know, getting into the white Tail

703
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: Properties website and and storting out some of the things

704
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: that you're looking for. And if that doesn't turn up, uh,

705
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: exactly what you're looking for, there's so many different search

706
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: engines out there, you know, and also by having like

707
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: a buyer's agent help you, they can provide you with

708
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 1: a number of things, but it takes a lot of mining.

709
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: You're mining all this all these listings and they're not

710
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: all readily available in one search engine. So you know,

711
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: by by doing what you did, you were able to

712
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 1: kind of uncover some things and and put them in

713
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: front of me and then we were able to look

714
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 1: at them. And I think that's you know, something that

715
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: a lot of people do because they'll get frustrated with

716
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: their agent possibly and they start getting into some of

717
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: the different search engines and then you know, bringing that

718
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: information to the to the agent and then they're able

719
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: to look at it under a microscope a little bit more.

720
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 1: What about you Jim. Um. Yeah, A lot of guys

721
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: start right where you did. Uh. Some savvy buyers, guys

722
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: who've done this several times. We'll just and if I

723
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: were buying today in in a territory, I wasn't familiar

724
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,760
Speaker 1: with the first thing I do. And this that sounds odd.

725
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: As another agent, as I'd engage a buyer's agent, I

726
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: wouldn't do all that legwork. I'd have somebody doing it

727
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: for me, because I promise you when when Sean calls

728
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 1: Agent B down the road, he gets more information out

729
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: of Agent B than you do as as a buyer,

730
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: all because he's our a relationship with the guy and

731
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: he calls and says, hey, I've got a buyer looking

732
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 1: for sixty acres in Hamilton County. Do you have anything?

733
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: Goes No, But you know I know John down there,

734
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 1: he may have something. Let me make a few phone

735
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,919
Speaker 1: calls for you. But when when when a buyer's agent

736
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: engage E gauge is another agent with potential listings or

737
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: potential something a sale, they know that guy serious. They

738
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,240
Speaker 1: know they've got a buyer who is going to buy something,

739
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: and they're gonna jump through hoops on that backside to

740
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: find something just as well as your buyer's agent is

741
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: gonna be. I mean, he's gonna go through and uh,

742
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: Sean went through pry Land watch Lands of America, Google

743
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: search engines and looking for what bait, what you're looking

744
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: for to find just like you would. But some people

745
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: enjoy that process, that the hours and hours of looking. Uh.

746
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 1: Some people would rather just call somebody said, hey, find

747
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: this for me and let me know when I can

748
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: come look at it. So it all depends on what

749
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,479
Speaker 1: your overall goals are. If you're a research minded guy

750
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: like you are, I'm sure Mark, some guys are not

751
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: that they're more they're not so much process driven as

752
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: they are in resolve driven. So they're gonna look at Okay,

753
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: how can I find the form I want the fastest?

754
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: And that's just say hey, find somebody you're comfortable with this,

755
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: say find me this, and then they go to work

756
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: for you. Yeah. Yeah, that definitely I to your point, Joe,

757
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: You're right. I am definitely processed driven and I did

758
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: want to get into details and it was it was

759
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: the first at first, it was really fun getting to

760
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 1: search and look at all these places online and thinking

761
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: about them and looking at the maps and thinking like

762
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: I even went so far as like each place I

763
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: look at the arial and I'd be thinking, Okay, your

764
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: most common win directions here in late October, number November

765
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: going to be northwest or west northwest maybe west? How

766
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: would you access this farm? How would you that up?

767
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: Where do you think this would be happening? So I

768
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 1: was like thinking like that level of detail for each

769
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 1: one of these places. So that was a lot of fun,

770
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: like a geek out on that stuff. But it was,

771
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: you know, two and a half months or three months later,

772
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: after I'd done this, you know, thirty times, and I've

773
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: looked at the same properties over and over and over

774
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: because every time I searched, well, I've seen that one

775
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: and said no to that. When I've seen that, when

776
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: I said no to that, like why isn't there something

777
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: that's gonna work? Um? Then it became frustrating and and

778
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: I wish I had been talking to Sean at that

779
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: point because I hadn't looped in Sewan until later, and

780
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: I think he would probably helped me a lot more

781
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 1: get to the end goal that I wanted sooner after

782
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: the fun before the fund ran out, probably, um, but

783
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean I looked at the four white

784
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: Tail Properties properties and just wasn't the right fit. But

785
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: I walked those four, and then I walked another oh, one, two, three, four, five.

786
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: I think I walked at least another five farms. So

787
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: there was at least and maybe six I can't remember now, UM,

788
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: but at least five other places that looked like they

789
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: had at least potential. I was. I found myself already

790
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: like having to compromise on my criterial list because there

791
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: just wasn't that perfect spot yet. But there was one

792
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: that maybe checked four out of five boxes. I was like, well,

793
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: I'll at least go and look at it on the

794
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: ground and see. UM. So I walked, you know, I walked.

795
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: There was one big one that had a little bit

796
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,280
Speaker 1: of wet lands on it in the w RP program

797
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: I think it is, and then there was a bunch

798
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: of CRP in it, or maybe the whole thing was

799
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: w RP, but it was some wet lens and some

800
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: was just more grassy type stuff. UM that had some

801
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: interesting potential but just end up being a little bit

802
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: too far away. I walked one property that um was

803
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: in a pretty good area, but just one big block

804
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: of thick timber um and it held a lot dear,

805
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:40,959
Speaker 1: but it seemed like there was a lot of hunting

806
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: pressure around it. And also I just didn't feel comfortable

807
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: and didn't know how difficult it would be to, you know,

808
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: deal with getting a logging crew in there, and if

809
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: I could afford that and all that stuff, and I

810
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: just that wasn't what I wanted to get into. I

811
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 1: kind of like the idea of having some open areas

812
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: already that we could work with. I remember walking a

813
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: p eeast um that was in a great looking area. Um,

814
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 1: this is another one. It was I saw a whole

815
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 1: lot of either way too much open space or no

816
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 1: open space. It was hard to find that mix of both. Um.

817
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: So several spots I found were like just a big,

818
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: wide open CRP field that was next to some really

819
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: good stuff. And I was thinking to myself, Man, if

820
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: I could get a good screen in here and plant

821
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: some trees and you can make it great, but it

822
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: would be like a six year longer project. UM. So

823
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: I was like battling in my mind, is it worth

824
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: trying something like that or should you look for something

825
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: that's gonna give you a little bit better foundation? Um?

826
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: One spot I found was a forty two acre piece

827
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: that had um I think like sixteen or seven acres

828
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: of of crop field on it in the front, including

829
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: one that was like totally covered with timber all around it,

830
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: just a little like one acre triangle on the edge

831
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: of the timber, really nice little secluded field, and then

832
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: there's a creek running through it that was really brushy

833
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: and thick, and then it grew into like bigger open

834
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 1: timber and some hills back behind it, and it tucked

835
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 1: right into this area that I actually knew about from

836
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: just some like I originally talked to some guy to

837
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: pro shop and archery shop who told me there's a

838
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: great qudium co op in the area and told me

839
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: about some of the deer they're kill him. And then

840
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: I found out through I don't know, some acquaintance that

841
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 1: such and such person hunts down the road there. And

842
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 1: through this whole research process, I found that the neighboring

843
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 1: property was up for sale as well, way out of

844
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 1: my price range, but this was owned by this other

845
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: person of this other group of people who are really

846
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: serious about deer hunting. So all of a sudden, I

847
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 1: was like, man, this is the spot we can afford it.

848
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: It's next to these like super serious deer hunters. It's

849
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: got nice mix of terrain. So I talked to the agent.

850
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: This is before I had a buyer's agent, and this

851
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: was a property that was not listed with White Tip Property.

852
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: So I just called this guy up and he's like, oh, yeah, sorry,

853
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: it just someone just put it under contract or like

854
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: they put in an offer and they're dealing with the

855
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: financing right now. So I was like a bummer, but

856
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: he's like, you know, go out and take a look

857
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: at it, just in case because it was take like

858
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: a long time for it to close or something. So

859
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: I walked it. Everything was confirmed, looks great, and long

860
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 1: story short, Like a week or two later, the agent

861
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: gets back in touch with me and says, hey, it

862
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: sounds like the financing fell through. It's available now you

863
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: should put it in an offer. So I get really excited.

864
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna do this. This is the spot.

865
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: Great neighborhood, great diversity, terrain, great access, abc d f G.

866
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: It's all there. Um And I call him back and

867
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: I said, hey, I'm gonna take one more walk and

868
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna put an offer. I just want to

869
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: like look at it one last time and then he

870
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 1: says to me, oh, sorry, I was wrong. It just closed.

871
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: So I'm like crushed at this point, Like it was.

872
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: It was that emotional roller coaster you talked Joe about

873
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 1: how you don't want to get too emotionally like caught

874
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: into it, and that was definitely happened to me. It

875
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: was just like the ups and downs, super frustrating. So well,

876
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you, I think that that

877
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: that agent probably dropped the ball a little bit because

878
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: it's something you were interested in. Uh, we would have

879
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: encouraged you to make a backup offer, so you can

880
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: make a backup offer on something that's already under contract

881
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: and if something falls out of it falls out they

882
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: missed a deadline, or they can't close, or something happens,

883
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: then you become the primary contract automatically and it's yours

884
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: without having to wait for a phone call. I would

885
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: have encouraged that, and I assumed Sean would have encouraged

886
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 1: the same thing, to throw a backup offer in there.

887
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: And when a seller knows there's a backup offer, they're

888
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: not always so willing to extend or look through extenuating

889
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: circumstance for the primary offer. I mean, if they if

890
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: it's taken, you know, if it's a thirty day close

891
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 1: and they're in the ninety days that had a couple

892
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: of extensions and the buyers seems to be goofing off

893
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: and not really getting that stuff together, they may just

894
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 1: drop that contract and take up with the secondary offer,

895
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: the backup offer, and then it's yours and you're moving forward.

896
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: So if you've got something that you like that's under

897
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: under contract or presumably under contract, there may just be

898
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: a verbal offer made on it, and they're telling you

899
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: there's an offer made, aren't under contract. I always encourage

900
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: putting it a by back up offerate. It's the one

901
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 1: you want, make a backup off r on it, because

902
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: it may become years. It happens more often than not.

903
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: Well that's what a few other people told me afterwards.

904
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: It was like, you know what, um, a lot of

905
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: people put an offer and then the financing doesn't pan

906
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: out or the uh what do you call it? The

907
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: not the assess Yeah, that will come back, right, So,

908
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: so is that something that commonly happens? You know, it's

909
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: not common common I you know, i'd say, it's maybe

910
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 1: ten or fifteen percent of the time that there's some

911
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: contingency that a contract is terminated. But it happens often

912
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,439
Speaker 1: enough that if I'm a buyer and I find something

913
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: I really want, I'm putting the backup offer on it

914
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: no matter what, just because that's the company I want.

915
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: If something falls through, and there are myriad of things

916
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: that can happen in between contract signing and closing, um,

917
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: that that may put you in the primary spot to

918
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,919
Speaker 1: be the purchaser of that property. Yeah, yeah, that's that's

919
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: seems like a good idea, and I probably should have

920
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: done that. It all, it all worked. Those as are

921
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: the layers that you peel back. And you know, when

922
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: we started this process, it's all. This is all the

923
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 1: stuff that hits you in the face and you're like wow,

924
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: And we experienced some of that with the actual purchase

925
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: of the property that we did get. Yeah, very true.

926
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 1: And I was gonna say that that kind of leads

927
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: us right to what happened next, because um, that morning,

928
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: right I talked to this other agent. He tells me, oh, sorry,

929
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: it's not available now, and I'm like stressed out and

930
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 1: it's getting late into the spring. And I've been hoping that,

931
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: you know, we could find a property to purchase earlier

932
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 1: this year, so we have lots of time to put

933
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: a lot of work in already this spring and summer

934
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 1: and have stuff ready for the first year of hunting. Um.

935
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: Now it's getting later and later and later in the year,

936
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 1: and I'm stressing, like we're not gonna find me do anything.

937
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 1: It's getting so late. Um, I thought this was gonna

938
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: work out, and it's not. I swear I've looked at everything.

939
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: But I was like, I'll just go back and look

940
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: at these stupid search engines one more time. So I

941
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: go back in there and I look at all the

942
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: different spots I've saved, and the ones that are kind

943
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: of like but I put them on my list, is

944
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 1: like potential. But I never really fell in love with him.

945
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: And there was one that I didn't really like all

946
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: that much because just a few things about just didn't

947
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: seem to be perfect. But it was like a middle

948
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 1: of the road and I thought to myself, you know what,

949
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: I just need to get out of the house today

950
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: and look at something and and get really excited about this,

951
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: or maybe I'll happen to stumble across something else, or

952
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: maybe this will look better in person that does on

953
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: the map. Um, I was just kind of gonna low spot.

954
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,720
Speaker 1: I was kind of bummed, and we're not gonna find anything.

955
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna go out and check the spot

956
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 1: out and maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised. So get permission

957
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: to go check out this farm. And as I'm driving

958
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 1: to the farm, I passed by the neighboring property and

959
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: there's a first sales sign on the neighboring property and

960
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: it says acreage, and I think to myself, huh, that's interesting.

961
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: I just kind of you can't see a whole lot

962
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 1: from the road of this property, but looked like those brushy,

963
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: overgrown fields, and I thought, well, that's interesting. So I

964
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: step out onto the property that I'm gonna look at originally,

965
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 1: and I'm all right, I'll check this out. But then

966
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 1: as I'm walking that, I pull up the aerial map

967
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: to look at the neighboring property, and right away I'm like,

968
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 1: oh man, the neighboring property looks real interesting. So I

969
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 1: take a little walk about of the original farm and

970
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 1: it kind of confirmed what I thought it was. It

971
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: was basically a big crp field with a couple of

972
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: little trees here and there in one little pocket of

973
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: pines um and in those pines, so I found a

974
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: bunch of like really good rubs for Michigan, Like these

975
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: are sizeable, like six seven inch eight inch diameter trees

976
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,439
Speaker 1: just tore up, and you don't see that here too

977
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: often Michigan. So that was like, oh, that's a good

978
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 1: sign um, which made me think that the neighboring property,

979
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 1: which looked a lot better from the other criteria that

980
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: I mentioned, that's in the same areage, right next door.

981
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: That's a great opportunity. So I went and I looked

982
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 1: at that for sales sign got the phone number, called

983
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: the agent or the agency for that property, got permission

984
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: to walk this one, and I walked it and this

985
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: one started checking the boxes. Um. It was sixty acres,

986
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: so it was right up there towards the side I wanted.

987
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: It was within our price range, and it had five

988
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: or six old crop fields that had been let go fellow,

989
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 1: so they're all overgrown with all sorts of junk. So

990
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 1: it's actually a pretty good thick stuff but easily reclaimed.

991
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: Right if I wanted to plant food plots or something

992
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: I could pretty easily still do that. Um, there was

993
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: big brushy, thick fence rows separating all that, so it

994
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: wasn't like it was just one huge open field. These

995
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: are small little fields that were overgrown timber where I

996
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: could hang tree stands and stuff like that. And then

997
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: there's nice rolling, hilly topography to it and a big

998
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: swamp in the middle. And in Michigan, one of the

999
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: biggest challenges we deal with is getting a buck past,

1000
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: you know, two or three years old, like you, just

1001
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: most bucks as a year and a half old get

1002
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: shot here. So to have at least from what I found, sean,

1003
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: maybe you've seen something different or maybe you agree with this,

1004
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: but there's got to be something in your area that

1005
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 1: is special that a buck can get to and survive.

1006
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 1: So maybe it's a little property that no one's allowed

1007
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,439
Speaker 1: to hunt. Maybe it's a reserve of some kind that's

1008
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: just for nature viewing but no one can hunt it.

1009
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: Or maybe it's a great big swamp that's really hard

1010
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: to get into and kill a deer. Um if you've

1011
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: got something like that, you've got a chance for older

1012
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: age class buck to make it. And this big swamp

1013
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: seemed like that kind of thing. Um So, right away,

1014
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: like I'm walked in, I'm seeing all these things. It's

1015
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: it's got the good cover, it's got diversity of terrain,

1016
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: it's got the swamp which could hold and possibly get

1017
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: a buck to an older age class. It's got access.

1018
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 1: I could get in here and get two different spots

1019
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: to hunt it. As I'm walking it, I can see,

1020
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: you know, neighboring properties, and I can see one of

1021
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: the neighbors has got a food plot planted, and he's

1022
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: got licking branches put out over over his food plot,

1023
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: like in a fake scrape tree. So I'm like, oh man,

1024
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: this guy takes it serious. That's something that your average

1025
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: deer hunter probably doesn't do. Um So, all of a sudden,

1026
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: like I'm getting excited again. This looks like a good fit.

1027
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: Um And that finally, then is when I got you

1028
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: into the mix, Sean, because after walking in, I thought

1029
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: to myself, Wow, this is the best thing I've seen yet.

1030
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,879
Speaker 1: Probably it just kind of came about by happenstance, at

1031
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: my loast of lows. I happened. I happened upon by

1032
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,919
Speaker 1: chance to find a property that wasn't like even all

1033
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 1: the searching I did online never came across this property,

1034
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: and turns out it just was no offense to the uh,

1035
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 1: the listing agent, but it just was not it was

1036
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 1: it was poorly presented online. There was one single picture.

1037
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: It was an aerial photograph of the property. There was

1038
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 1: almost no detail about it. Um. It was almost impocult,

1039
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,720
Speaker 1: and I never found it in all of my searching.

1040
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: So I just kind of got lucky that this was

1041
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: just not put out there too terribly well. UM. So

1042
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, this looks like it. And then after

1043
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: going back and thinking about things and talk from some people, thought,

1044
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: you know what, if you're gonna put an offer, you

1045
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: might I was realizing at this point I might want

1046
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: to get a professional involved because I didn't really know

1047
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: what I was doing. So that's when I called you,

1048
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: Sean and said, hey, I've been hearing about this buyer's

1049
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: agent kind of thing. Could you help me out with

1050
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: this as a buyer's agent um. And the first step

1051
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: was that you were to come out and look at

1052
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,439
Speaker 1: the place with me, because I thought, for sure, be good,

1053
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: have a second set of eyes on it with me, UM,

1054
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: to see make sure I wasn't, you know, looking at

1055
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: this thing through rose colored glasses, make sure I was

1056
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 1: seeing the same things, um that anybody else would. So

1057
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: what did you think when you walked it? Um? What

1058
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: were your thoughts from that first um, that first impression. Well, well,

1059
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: the first thing I thought when it actually took me

1060
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: back like when we had first kind of talked and

1061
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 1: you looked at one of my properties and then you

1062
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 1: gave me a little bit of criteria and then uh,

1063
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: then I started looking like you weren't really tied into

1064
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: me yet to start looking for you, because you were

1065
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: still in the process of, you know, looking at your

1066
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: own properties. And I did a little research and that

1067
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: was actually one of the I don't know, one of the

1068
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 1: the fifteen properties. That was the one only one that

1069
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: really stood out to me that that would be in

1070
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 1: your in your wheelhouse. And when you said that that

1071
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: was the property, it kind of like with a light

1072
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: bulb or like just like a I don't know, just

1073
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: something something went off, So like this is a this

1074
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: is a good property because you identified it. It was

1075
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: one of the ones that stuck in my head as

1076
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 1: it might be a good property for you because it

1077
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: was you know, when I got there, I was like

1078
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: one of the things I didn't expect was the rolling

1079
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 1: topography there, and I was like, I was like, wow,

1080
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 1: that was like an added little bonus to it, because

1081
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: you know, in like you said in the listing, the

1082
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: only picture you had there was an aerial photo and

1083
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: you really can't get a lot. All I got from

1084
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: that aerial photo was that, all right, there's a lot

1085
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: of brushy cover and there was a couple of five

1086
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 1: acre fields in there that were you know, separated, so

1087
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: it kind of gave me the idea, Yeah, you could

1088
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: go in there and plant food plots and kind of

1089
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 1: you know, paint the picture however you wanted there. But

1090
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 1: then there was a lot of natural cover. But when

1091
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 1: I got there and I saw the rolling topography and

1092
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 1: the layout, I was I was really impressed with it.

1093
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, this is a really nice property.

1094
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 1: I'm surprise that it wasn't sold yet. Yeah, and then

1095
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,280
Speaker 1: that was that was my That was my initial initial feeling.

1096
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: When I got there and I think we walked, I

1097
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: was pretty quiet. I was just kind of taking it

1098
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: all in. Yeah, although I did appreciate the fact, you know,

1099
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: you're pointing out things that I wouldn't have noticed, because

1100
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: one of the things that I'm that I'm going to

1101
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: use this property to hopefully improve on. Is like being

1102
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 1: able to identify different types of flora, different types of trees. Um,

1103
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: that's something I haven't gotten very good at yet, but

1104
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 1: I'm trying to. But you were telling me, Okay, that's

1105
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: a cherry tree, and this is such and such tree,

1106
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: and these are red oaks, there's white oaks, and this

1107
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: is some good stuff here. Um, that was beyond some

1108
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: of my my knowledge level. That was helpful. But but

1109
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: another thing that I thought was really interesting that again

1110
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 1: I was not when I was looking at properties by myself,

1111
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: but when you showed up, you had a folder with

1112
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,280
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of information about it about this property

1113
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: that I had not had access to yet. Could you

1114
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: tell me what it was you came with that, um

1115
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 1: that we we looked at to learn more about the

1116
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: property before even walking up. Oh, let me see here.

1117
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: When I showed up there, I think I had, UM,

1118
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 1: I had aero photos. But then I know after the

1119
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: fact we got into the like some of the title

1120
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: work and I looked into, um, some of the tax

1121
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 1: data before I got there, and uh, the aerial photo

1122
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 1: that was there. This is what you're talking about the

1123
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: aero photo that we had the property. And then when

1124
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: I got into the tax data, there was information about

1125
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 1: multiple tax id numbers. Well inside that aero photo. Is

1126
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: that what you're talking about? Well, I was gonna say

1127
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: even before that, what about all the acre oh gosh,

1128
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: acre value website stuff or the soil you brought all

1129
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: these different soil maps that show the soil quality breakdown

1130
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: and a whole bunch of stuff like that. Yeah, there

1131
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 1: was acre value. UM. You can get a soil analysis

1132
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: map where prints out printed out what types of soil

1133
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: and how many how much of that soil was over

1134
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: what amount of the acreage, And it was a good

1135
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: tool to all, you know, know the soil composition and

1136
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: the layout. Yeah. I thought that was really interesting to

1137
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: see what kind of soil cloud we had. And then

1138
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: I remember, I'm looking here at the folder right now

1139
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: that you gave me. I've got the tax information, the

1140
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: g I s uh read out about the property. UM

1141
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: even had a sample by agreement that I could look

1142
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: at just to see you, Okay, this is what a

1143
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: potential contract would look like if we were going to

1144
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: do this. UM. So that was that was all helpful stuff.

1145
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: UM and I definitely felt just more confident after seeing that,

1146
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:51,399
Speaker 1: And you seem to think, you know, after walking it,

1147
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: there weren't any There weren't any visible red flags, like

1148
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 1: everything looked good as we walked it. The only red

1149
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: flag was the fact that why is this thing still here?

1150
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 1: Like how come it hasn't gotten sold yet? Because it

1151
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: is almost seemed too good to be true? Right right?

1152
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: Is there is there any other I don't know going

1153
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 1: through that process, Joe, Maybe any things like when you're

1154
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: walking a farm with someone, are there any kind of

1155
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:23,919
Speaker 1: potential red flags that you look for or specific kind

1156
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: of gotcha things that a lot of people miss because

1157
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: they're excited and they overlook things. Um in my case

1158
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 1: brought Sean out. We didn't see any red flags. But

1159
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 1: was there anything that you've experienced in the past that

1160
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: could catch someone up? Maybe? No, you know that you're

1161
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 1: seeing that those fields have gone follow. I want to

1162
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 1: know why those fields went follow or they're too small

1163
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 1: for the farmer? Wasn't expired to RP as it it

1164
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 1: a permanent use my program like w RP or crap

1165
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 1: because those all change the values of that ground. But

1166
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,399
Speaker 1: Collins Sean having him walking with you and you probably

1167
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 1: knew the value. He probably gave you a really good

1168
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,359
Speaker 1: idea to the procet in the market, or it's way

1169
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: over price, or here's what it's really worth or what

1170
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: it will praise for. But those those those kind of

1171
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: hidden things, uh, mineral rights issues that you're gonna find

1172
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 1: and we're gonna get to that. I imagine that the

1173
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: title work and stuff like that an easement issues especially,

1174
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: and looking at those fields, I want to make sure

1175
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: that they aren't in a permanentsement corrupt c r e

1176
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 1: P or w RP program or any other conservation easement

1177
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 1: where it may prohibit you from planting food plots or

1178
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: doing any habitat manipulation because a lot of those conservation

1179
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: easements are literally you leave it in the condition at

1180
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: jin and that's all you can do. You can't cut

1181
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: the timer, can't plant food plots, can't do anything, and

1182
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 1: you don't want to get into something that you may

1183
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: be get into it way cheaper, but it's worth less

1184
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: as you move forward, and you can't do with it

1185
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: what you want to do with it. So you need

1186
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: to make you need to be cognitive why those fields

1187
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: weren't were left flow. Yeah, and that that's kind of

1188
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: right in line with what right? Oh yeah, Like that's

1189
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: what we got into because the once we went back

1190
00:56:58,160 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 1: and we pulled the title work, a lot of the

1191
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: lot of information started to come to the surface. We

1192
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 1: we kind of, you know, that's all we kept thinking

1193
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 1: was why isn't this sold yet? And we got into

1194
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 1: it and kind of you know, figured some things out

1195
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: with with the reasonings, and we will probably get to

1196
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: that a little bit later. Yeah, I mean, let's let's

1197
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: talk about that now, because you know, I did the

1198
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: walk through the new and me came through did the walkthrough,

1199
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: and and I looked at you. I'm like, Sean, does

1200
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: this seem as good as I think it is? And

1201
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, I really do. Um, it's just like

1202
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: we need to understand the details behind it, like is

1203
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: there something we we don't know about yet. So basically,

1204
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: by the end of that day, we sat down we

1205
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: reviewed a potential purchase agreement. You I kind of had

1206
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 1: you walked me through what we'd be doing. Um, and

1207
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: this is something you know, I've never been through before.

1208
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: I had no idea what happens next. And that was

1209
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: a little intimidating, right, I'm glad it has someone to

1210
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: be there with me, because I you know, if I

1211
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: had worked originally like that first property I wanted to

1212
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: put an offer on before I was talking to you,

1213
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 1: If I had done this without a buyer's agent, that

1214
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: guy was just gonna have me like fill out some

1215
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: paperwork online and I was just gonna go with it

1216
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: and just trust this guy. Hope this guy. You know,

1217
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: I was working in my best interest. I don't know

1218
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: what else doing. I wouldn't have known all the things

1219
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: that you did after this would have been I don't

1220
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 1: know what would have happened. So walk me through if

1221
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: you can. What you told me once I said, Hey,

1222
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: I want to put in an offer, but help me

1223
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: understand what that process looks like and how do we

1224
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: make sure that we're protected in case there is some

1225
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: weird thing going on that we don't know about yet.

1226
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 1: Um that's what I asked you, and then you explained

1227
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: it to me. Can you explain it to us again?

1228
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: Now you're part of the part of the process of

1229
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: placing the the offer in in in the contract, there's

1230
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: different continuencies, and one of them is that they've got

1231
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: to provide all the like a clean sellable title and

1232
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: your title agency will go in and they kind of

1233
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: do some digging for you. And we had kind of

1234
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: identified a couple of things that were odd UM with

1235
00:58:56,120 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: the original listing UM because there was only to the

1236
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: the aerial photo on the outline that they were showing

1237
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: as the property for sale wasn't the property for sale

1238
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: according to the tax ideas, and we wanted to make

1239
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: sure that what we were what we were buying was

1240
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: what we were buying. So we we ended up finding

1241
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: out that one of the tax I d s wasn't

1242
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: included in the property, but there was an additional tax

1243
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: idea that was so when we wrote the offer, we

1244
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: we included the three three tax ideas so that UM

1245
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 1: was to make sure that we we bought all the

1246
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: property they are not just the two. We would end

1247
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 1: up with um less acreage than what was in the

1248
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: aerial photo. But then when that offer went to title,

1249
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 1: they were able to UM bring up some information which

1250
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: uncovered the the potential short sale which we needed to

1251
00:59:55,640 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 1: get approven from the bank, the seller's bank on ye um. Yeah,

1252
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: before we get kind of the biggest hurdle right there. Yeah,

1253
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 1: before we get to that though, there was another question too,

1254
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 1: which was um about easements and stuff, right, because there

1255
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: was like some funky things going through the property a

1256
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 1: little bit, uh, And you were able to I think

1257
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 1: this was in the title process, but I can't remember

1258
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 1: exactly in that in the in the offer, it was

1259
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 1: contingent that we were able to review this stuff. We

1260
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: could review the title work in the easements and everything.

1261
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: We had I think it was five days or ten

1262
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: days or something like that that we could review it

1263
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 1: all make sure that there wasn't something funky. Um, could

1264
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 1: you describe what what what? Some of those other things were? Right?

1265
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 1: There was several different easements that we had to double

1266
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 1: check on right. Oh. Yeah, there was an easement that

1267
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 1: one of the parcels was part of an old railroad

1268
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 1: bed and just to make sure that you had that

1269
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 1: there wasn't any um ownership the railroad what they could

1270
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 1: do to that, because there's some some places in mission

1271
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 1: where they turned the old railroad surreils trails. You wanted

1272
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 1: to make sure that that you had ownership of it

1273
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: and weren't they weren't. They didn't have any ownership to

1274
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 1: do anything above surface on it. There was also the

1275
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 1: electrical easeman on there and there was also the access

1276
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 1: easement that we weren't sure about until the end, where

1277
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 1: when we first viewed the property, we came through a

1278
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 1: driveway that was part of the easement to get to

1279
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 1: the original property. But then we we found out that

1280
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 1: that that didn't transfer and they created the they culvered

1281
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: up on the road for us. UM. So that was

1282
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: that was the three Easeman issues that we had. The

1283
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: one of the thing we questions about which which after

1284
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 1: we went to this process, you called me up and said, well, hey,

1285
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 1: here's here's what's going on the power line. Easeman's find

1286
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 1: the railroad, Easeman. There's nothing to worry about there. You

1287
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 1: would own that. Um. Then there was something and I

1288
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 1: can't remember exactly what it was called. It was like

1289
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 1: the crop lands we're in a program was like quality

1290
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 1: farm ground or or official or qualified farming. What was

1291
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 1: that qualified? It was? It was a qualified We want

1292
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 1: to make sure that it wasn't in a like a

1293
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 1: PA to sixty or uh. It was gonna qualify. It

1294
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: was qualified farm land, which gave you a different tax

1295
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 1: price in the property. But we wanted to make sure

1296
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 1: that it wasn't in a like a land bank program

1297
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 1: which prohibited you from from doing anything through the property

1298
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 1: if you wanted to, because some of them programs have

1299
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 1: different criteria and we wanted to just make sure that

1300
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 1: there was no restrictions on the farmland, which or something

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01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 1: Joe talked about earlier. I think we'll find out what

1302
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 1: restrictions were. Yeah. Yeah, were are there any other scenarios

1303
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 1: like this? Joe Worth noting any other programs you mentioned

1304
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 1: that w r P, c RP. We just talked about

1305
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 1: the qualified farm owned. Um, any of the proms like

1306
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:05,439
Speaker 1: that or we got touched on most of them? Yeah.

1307
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 1: Every every state different. Every every state deals with several

1308
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 1: different conservation easements. Uh. Some of them just prohibit they

1309
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 1: do lower your tax based they just prohibit the property

1310
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 1: from ever being subdivided, which generally in a smaller person

1311
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 1: doesn't make a big difference. But it's about hundred acres. Now,

1312
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 1: you want to sell twenty acres to your son to

1313
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 1: build a house. If it's in a conservation easement, A

1314
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 1: lot of times you cannot do that. Um. The biggest

1315
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: easement that I really worry about is ingress eat grass easement,

1316
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 1: so you may and it sounds like you went through

1317
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 1: that on this property where you thought the driveway was

1318
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 1: your ingress eat grass, but they actually put it in

1319
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 1: a call. But for you, those could all be shook

1320
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 1: out in title work. But I really worry about the

1321
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 1: property behind your property, possibly have an access through your property,

1322
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 1: because it happens a lot right down the center of

1323
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 1: your sixty acres or maybe a road going back to

1324
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 1: the neighbor's property. And if that is in fact a

1325
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: DA easement, that devalues that property to you, probably because

1326
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 1: you don't want to be in a chair standing somebody

1327
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 1: come driving by on your pickup at a half hour

1328
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 1: before dark. Uh So those things really can't be shook

1329
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 1: out most of the time until you do title work.

1330
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 1: But that's that's why it's important for to have somebody

1331
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 1: uh go through those contracts with you, because if you

1332
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 1: wrote a contract online or you hire an attorney the

1333
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 1: right to a contract, there's a lot of those things

1334
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 1: that could be missed. Um. So having somebody who's knowledgeable

1335
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 1: in the land base and land sales makes a giant

1336
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 1: difference because they're gonna make sure you're covered. So if

1337
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 1: there's an easy ministure or a clear title issue, or

1338
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 1: maybe you have a mineral rights, you know you're gonna

1339
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 1: survey issue or financing issue. There's lots of things in

1340
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 1: there are contenencies. A good agent is going to protect

1341
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 1: you with all those. So if something comes up out

1342
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 1: of title worker, something comes up in your due diligence

1343
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 1: period after the offer is made, that you still have

1344
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 1: an ability to get out of that contract without having

1345
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 1: to pay a help me based on the selling might

1346
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 1: be able to good time. Yeah. So so basically moving on,

1347
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 1: then we're able to clear all the title stuff right,

1348
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 1: all the Eastman's, all the programs that all seemed to

1349
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 1: make sense. Um, we'd already determined ahead of time that

1350
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,439
Speaker 1: this is a good value. You'd gone ahead and done

1351
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 1: a pretty detailed even acre by acre valuation based off

1352
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 1: soil types and what the tillable would go for and

1353
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 1: what would the non tillabill go for and all that

1354
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 1: and everything matched up well. We felt good about the

1355
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 1: price preakre um. Those things all handled and it seemed like, okay,

1356
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 1: it's green light the offer. Um. We had a little

1357
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 1: bit of back and forth on the offer, but we

1358
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 1: can to a place that felt good. But then the

1359
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 1: last thing, and you mentioned the Sean was the fact

1360
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 1: that we found out that there was some language in

1361
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 1: the contract about uh, contingent on approval of a short sale,

1362
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 1: and I don't know what that was. Um, I don't

1363
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 1: know how that was going to impact us in anyway.

1364
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 1: It kind of got me a little nervous. Um, can

1365
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 1: you walk us through what that was, Sean, how we

1366
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 1: dealt with it, what it how it impacted us in

1367
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 1: a little wit. Yeah, it just it basically just slowed

1368
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 1: us down a little bit in the process. But we

1369
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 1: had to wait on the bank. There was the original

1370
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 1: owners um owned this piece with another larger piece, and

1371
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 1: to sell it, Um, the money need to go back

1372
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 1: to the bank and they need to they need to

1373
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 1: approve it because they weren't selling it for the full

1374
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 1: I think the full value of what they quote on it. Yep.

1375
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 1: So and once the bank okay that we're okay to go.

1376
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 1: But it was it kind of slowed us down and

1377
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 1: gave us a, you know, something to look at as

1378
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 1: far as what was really going on. Because the wordage

1379
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 1: did come up. It was something that was surprised to us. All.

1380
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 1: It wasn't anything that the agent talked about to us

1381
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:46,919
Speaker 1: in the the beginning of the process. Are there any

1382
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 1: other things like that? Um, any other when it comes

1383
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 1: to the closing like this, when it comes to the

1384
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 1: final you know, details like after that point, like the

1385
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 1: short sale got approved right by the bank and once

1386
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 1: that was a proved and it was approved on our end, Um,

1387
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 1: we just had to sign on the dotted line, right. Um.

1388
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 1: Was there anything else going through your mind that you

1389
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 1: thought might have been a potential um hiccup, still it

1390
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 1: might happen, or was there anything you were thinking about

1391
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 1: or that somebody else should be thinking about. I guess

1392
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 1: if they're in this process and they're they're right about

1393
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 1: to sign and closing this thing, any final be careful

1394
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 1: or keeping out for this type of thing that we

1395
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 1: should mention, you know. I mean the it's limitless like

1396
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 1: a property can be like in a perfect world situation,

1397
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 1: so easy to go through this process. I mean in

1398
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 1: a perfect world, if it's a cash deal, it could

1399
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 1: go through in a couple of weeks. But I mean

1400
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 1: this can drag on with these types of hurdles get

1401
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 1: through over a period to three months or more not

1402
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 1: even happen. So Um, it's just it's each individual transaction. Ah,

1403
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's a limitless amount of things that

1404
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 1: could happen. Yeah, Joe, you got any Yeah, but you

1405
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 1: know went through which it went through is fairly common

1406
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 1: for an approval process by a bank. If if if

1407
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 1: it's in a state, or it's to trust, or it's

1408
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 1: a divorce, there may be attorney review. Uh. Some of

1409
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 1: states require a probate case, would require a probate court

1410
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 1: judge approving it. UH. Sometimes those take time, and if

1411
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 1: there's anybody in the estate that objects to it, they

1412
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 1: can extend that out. I had one personally that went

1413
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 1: fifteen months, uh, going back and forth in and out

1414
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 1: of court. Luckily the buyer was was very patient, uh,

1415
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 1: and he ended up buying it, and we negotiated, and

1416
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 1: the longer it went on, his price went down. So

1417
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 1: we made sure that he was he was getting the

1418
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 1: property for a price he wanted. But the longer it

1419
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 1: went on, because I knew it could be a problem

1420
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 1: going into with probate approval, UH that for every month

1421
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 1: the price went down fifty or a hundred dollars an acre. UH.

1422
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 1: So it motivated the estate themselves that hey, we need

1423
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 1: to get this wrapped up. Because literally one of the

1424
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 1: members of the estate was dragging their feet and would

1425
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 1: not show up in court and extend court and all that.

1426
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 1: That's why I took fifteen months. But it literally, it

1427
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,720
Speaker 1: literally saved the buyers several thousand dollars in the end

1428
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:19,639
Speaker 1: because we put those limits on it. And I probably

1429
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 1: if we wouldn't have had that decreasing amount, we probably

1430
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 1: would still be in probate court process waiting for that

1431
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 1: thing to get done. But we've seen a lot with

1432
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 1: the states. Like I said, there may be a state

1433
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 1: attorney needs to approve uh short sales like a bank approval,

1434
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 1: especially if they're taking uh like sixty acres out of

1435
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 1: a track that will have to be approved by the

1436
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 1: bank because I have to give you a lean release

1437
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 1: on that for that sixty acres because they can't pay

1438
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,600
Speaker 1: off the entire league. They're taking part of it to

1439
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 1: pay off part of it. Uh So there's lots of

1440
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 1: things like that. So'll just be patient and and see

1441
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 1: what's happening as you go through title work and and

1442
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 1: hear about these things. You'll you'll learn about these things

1443
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 1: afterwards after you put approach of approaching, because a lot

1444
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 1: of times they don't get flushed out until that point. Yeah. Yeah,

1445
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 1: that was another big ha for me. I was. I

1446
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 1: was very naive. I thought that, Okay, we'll put an

1447
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 1: offer and you know, six days from now, I'll be

1448
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 1: able to go out there and we own it. And

1449
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:18,680
Speaker 1: that was not the case. Um, and we were We

1450
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 1: were lucky that most of the stuff going on for

1451
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 1: us was pretty easy, like it probably could have been.

1452
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 1: Like you mentioned, you on some people takes months and months,

1453
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 1: so we're lucky. It was just I don't know a

1454
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:32,560
Speaker 1: handful of week process. But um, but yeah, the the

1455
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,839
Speaker 1: ending was a happy ending. We were able to close

1456
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 1: and everything looked good and we, uh we now own this. Uh.

1457
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 1: I think it's just about sixty four acres. I think

1458
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 1: it's the official total of it, and uh it is

1459
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 1: a super cool little piece with lots of potential and

1460
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 1: uh we even got a picture from the previous owners

1461
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 1: shared picture with you, Sean of a really nice buck

1462
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:58,639
Speaker 1: that was shot on a neighboring property, which is another

1463
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 1: really nice uh confidence booster. So I feel like this

1464
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:06,799
Speaker 1: farm has got tons of potential from a deer hunting standpoint,

1465
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:08,600
Speaker 1: a lot of other cool projects we can do to

1466
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 1: help other wildlife, and uh, you have a lot of

1467
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 1: fun out there too, So I'm very excited I'm very

1468
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 1: thankful for all your help, Sean to this process. And uh,

1469
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 1: I guess before we wrap it up, though, I want

1470
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 1: to make sure that there's not anything else, um that

1471
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 1: we've left off the table here as far as I

1472
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 1: don't know, is there anything else Joe or Seawan thinking

1473
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 1: in your head right now, if someone's listening to this

1474
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 1: and they want to buy a farm and they've been

1475
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 1: listening to to understand you know here my example and

1476
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 1: hopefully apply that to their future purchase decision and process.

1477
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 1: Have we missed anything, We've left any important pieces of

1478
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 1: the puzzle out that you really want to make sure

1479
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:49,599
Speaker 1: that we leave someone with anything for you, Joe that

1480
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 1: that jumps out right away. Look, I'm just gonna reiteract

1481
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 1: the fact, and I would basically, I'll call several agents

1482
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 1: to interview them, talk to them, look at properties with them,

1483
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 1: and jump find somebody comfortable with and I would engage

1484
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 1: with them because they will save you money and they

1485
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 1: will save you a bunch of headaches down the road.

1486
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 1: This is what they do every day. This is not

1487
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 1: a one, one time, once in a life trans time transaction,

1488
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 1: which is a lot. I mean, most guys make one

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01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 1: big purchase in our life of land, and that's it.

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01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 1: Someone makes several but uh, engageing somebody who knows that

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01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:23,720
Speaker 1: business to protect you. I mean, you wouldn't go. You

1492
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 1: wouldn't try to perform surgery yourself. Don't don't try to

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01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 1: do real estate yourself. Although most of the time you

1494
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 1: get out of it all right, in a situation like this,

1495
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:35,559
Speaker 1: with these easements and and uh and the short sale

1496
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 1: and the contingencies that you had, you could have got

1497
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 1: yourself into a real bad behind where you're forced to

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01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 1: perform on that contract and buy that property even though

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01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,639
Speaker 1: it has some problems or some red flag that would

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01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 1: give you the opportunity to get out if somebody would

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01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 1: have wrote the contract for you correctly. So I can't

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01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 1: I can't stress that enough. I think most buyers, I

1503
01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 1: think it's gonna cost some extra money to have an

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01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 1: agent involved. Just interview a couple of guys. Feel comfortable

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01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 1: with somebody. If you feel comfortable, you have a bond

1506
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 1: with that person, feel they're going to have your best

1507
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 1: interests and their knowledgeable in the base and with the criteria,

1508
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 1: you want engage that guy and make him work for you,

1509
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:15,600
Speaker 1: because I promise you it'll save you a ton of

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01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 1: headaches down the road. Other than that, like Sean said,

1511
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 1: there there are in a million scenarios and there's no

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01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:24,640
Speaker 1: way we can go over those in any kind of

1513
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:29,519
Speaker 1: conversation because literally, even at the office with two agents

1514
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 1: and listen to several scenarios a day, we look, we

1515
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 1: come up with a new scenario nearly every day. I

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01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 1: mean just something that there's several of us there in

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01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 1: the office. I have a ton of experience and we're like,

1518
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 1: we're all scratching our heads. We gotta figure it out,

1519
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 1: and then we'll have a we'll have a form to

1520
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 1: figure that out. So yeah, well that's that's definitely what

1521
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 1: it seems to be. Uh My big takeaway from this is,

1522
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 1: don't feel bad about getting some help. I wish I

1523
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 1: would have done that sooner, and I'm glad I finally

1524
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:00,639
Speaker 1: did at the end because I would have been over

1525
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:03,600
Speaker 1: my head. So so I guess that leaves us with

1526
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 1: the hero, which is Sean. Do you have any final

1527
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:11,680
Speaker 1: final words, any final suggestions or anything for folks? Um.

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01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 1: I would say, like, first, I'm not the hero, and uh,

1529
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 1: I would say that I bounced a lot of this.

1530
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:21,599
Speaker 1: I really reached out to my home office, Joe and

1531
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 1: Joe and Kirk Kirk Gilbert and you know a lot

1532
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 1: of people at Whitehill Properties to help me through through

1533
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:30,479
Speaker 1: this and some other some other properties that I've dealt

1534
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 1: with problems on. So that's one of the good things

1535
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 1: about being an agent for this company is that you've

1536
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 1: got such a great resource in Pittsfield of you know

1537
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 1: guys that you said, there's two hundred agents and they

1538
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:43,679
Speaker 1: deal with this stuff every day. So whenever I run

1539
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 1: into a roadblock, I can always call them and and

1540
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 1: have them help me through it. So, UM, it's kind

1541
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:54,639
Speaker 1: of I mean, we touched on everything good. Okay, I'm

1542
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:56,880
Speaker 1: glad we were. We were thorough. I feel like this

1543
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 1: was this was fun to get to talk about this

1544
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 1: kind of topic, but with a happy story that I'm

1545
01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 1: involved in. Um, that's pretty cool. So I guess the

1546
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 1: final thing would be for people that are listening and

1547
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 1: they want to learn more about what White Tail Properties

1548
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 1: has to offer in general, and then if they want

1549
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 1: to get ahold of you specifically Sean or you Joe,

1550
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 1: either one of you. Um, could you guys just explain

1551
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 1: to the listeners where and how they could do that

1552
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 1: go ahead, John, all right, Yeah, you can get on

1553
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 1: white tail properties dot com and you can get to

1554
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:31,960
Speaker 1: um there's a list of agents, or you can click

1555
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 1: on the state and then find the agents through the website,

1556
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 1: or you can or you can email me directly at

1557
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 1: Sean and C H A W N dot Kelly K

1558
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 1: E L L E Y at white tail properties dot

1559
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 1: com with any questions or or concerns you might have.

1560
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:54,559
Speaker 1: I can kind of try and help you out. Great

1561
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 1: and Joe at same go to white tail properties dot

1562
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:00,600
Speaker 1: com called me at the office to one seven to

1563
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 1: eight five nine thoubum my personal seals listed on there.

1564
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 1: It's two one seven zero three three two. I I

1565
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 1: take calls, Sean will tell you I take calls all

1566
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 1: time of that hours a day, whether it be six

1567
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 1: am or or eleven pm. I'm always good about taking

1568
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 1: calls and return phone calls as this Sean. So don't

1569
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 1: feel just feel free to reach out to just just

1570
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 1: to have a conversation, even if you're not ready to

1571
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 1: mind yet, if you just want to talk about we

1572
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 1: have a lot of calls come into the oppossee that

1573
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 1: are like, hey, you know, I really want a recreational property,

1574
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 1: but I really don't know what I want yet. I

1575
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:34,640
Speaker 1: don't know if I want a big deer, if I

1576
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 1: want to pawn. I don't know what state I want

1577
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 1: to be in, even I know I want to be

1578
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 1: somewhere in the Midwest. Can you help me so? Then

1579
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 1: you start working through values in that checklist with a

1580
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 1: guy and we'll do that as at an office. Then

1581
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 1: we'll pass that guy that buyer along to a guy

1582
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 1: like Sean or Mike or Tim Woods that you mentioned

1583
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:54,600
Speaker 1: based on that guy's cripchiers. Hey, this is what this

1584
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 1: guy's looking for. Would your reach out to him if

1585
01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 1: you've got anything that fits, because a lot of buyers

1586
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 1: literally do not have an idea where they want to be,

1587
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:04,639
Speaker 1: just like you did when you started. You started at Michigan,

1588
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 1: Indiana and Ohio. Now you keep fine tuning that as

1589
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:10,720
Speaker 1: you look through um. But you did that kind of

1590
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 1: on your own. But we can help through that for guys,

1591
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 1: either through the office or through one of the land specialists.

1592
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 1: Very good. Well, I'm really glad that we were able

1593
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,600
Speaker 1: to do this. I'm glad um that we Luke you

1594
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 1: and Sean and the rest of the team. Everyone was

1595
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 1: was very helpful and uh it led to a really

1596
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 1: positive outcome that I'm excited about and thankful for. So

1597
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 1: so thank you Sean, thank you Joe both for all

1598
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 1: of your help during this process in this podcast. And

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01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 1: hopefully we can talk again soon with with more happy

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01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 1: endings about how this hunting season goes. Yeah, we're kind

1601
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 1: of interest doing the outcome and what your progress is

1602
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 1: with the have aitat manipulation and how the farm works

1603
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 1: out for your long term. Definitely keep you posted, all right,

1604
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 1: Thank you sir. All right, and that is they were

1605
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 1: at and that is it. Thank you for listening. As

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01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 1: mentioned at the top, make sure you're watching the back

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Speaker 1: forty video series over on the Meat Eater YouTube channel.

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Speaker 1: All seven episodes are out, with one more to come

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Speaker 1: this year and much more to come next year. Otherwise,

1610
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys being a part of the Wired Hunt family.

1611
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:16,679
Speaker 1: Appreciate everyone who's picked up a copy of my new

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Speaker 1: book That Wild Country. Uh. Support has been incredible. You

1613
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 1: guys are awesome and I appreciate you for it. So

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Speaker 1: until next time. If I don't talk to you before

1615
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 1: Christmas or the holidays, Mary, Mary Christmas, have a great

1616
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 1: holiday season, enjoy the time with friends and family, eat

1617
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:36,679
Speaker 1: some good wild game, spend some time outside, and until

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Speaker 1: next time, stay wired to hunt.