Speaker 1: Hell I Suck At Dating with Dean, Vanessa and Jared
Speaker 1: and I Heart Radio podcast. Hello everybody, Welcome to an
Speaker 1: all new episode of Help I Suck at Dating. I'm
Speaker 1: Jared have been joined in studio by the handsome, charismatic,
Speaker 1: sweet kind singer sometimes smelly Dean Unglert. You want know
Speaker 1: what's funny? Actually, as I smell extra bad today, I
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna say it. I mean, I kind of did
Speaker 1: say it in a joking way. I can't tell if
Speaker 1: it's your sunconscious that it's me. It's me. I wore
Speaker 1: shoes today. I don't wear shoes ever. And when I
Speaker 1: do wear shoes, I don't wear socks. And when I
Speaker 1: don't wear socks, my feet get pretty stinky, and I
Speaker 1: my arm pits smell pretty. I just all around, top
Speaker 1: to bottom. I'm not the smell not the best smelling person.
Speaker 1: I hate feet. It's a good bad smell, though I
Speaker 1: think I've smelled you a lot as far as bad
Speaker 1: smells go, it could be a lot work. It's it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is an attractive guy who just finished working out,
Speaker 1: Like that's the smell you remember and you were in
Speaker 1: the studio for this yared, But there was one day,
Speaker 1: There's like maybe a couple of days where I was
Speaker 1: like just putting the other on one armpit, and then
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I was comparing which
Speaker 1: arm pits smelled better, and I remember this, he smelled
Speaker 1: both armpits and he could only just barely tell the
Speaker 1: difference between which had been the proudest moments in my
Speaker 1: career and broadcasting. It was like a game show. I mean,
Speaker 1: we could get Bob Hope or what's this Bob Hope? Right? Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: not Bob Hope, but Bob Hope. It's um. Uh, all
Speaker 1: I can think about is happy Gilmore. You're gonna get it, Bobby.
Speaker 1: I don't know which Drew. We just need Drew Carry
Speaker 1: in studio to host the game show. Anyway. We can
Speaker 1: talk about Dean's bo all day. But we have two
Speaker 1: very special guests that are in studio right now that
Speaker 1: we are very excited about. Uh. They're both actors, producers, parents,
Speaker 1: um loving husband and wife with a new I Heart
Speaker 1: Radio podcast coming out this month. In studio, we have
Speaker 1: Rosalind Sanchez and her husband Eric Winter. Thank you so
Speaker 1: much for having us, Thank you, thank you. Exciting of course,
Speaker 1: So how's how's life? I mean, I mean, everybody knows
Speaker 1: that you guys are, but kind of give a brief introduction.
Speaker 1: You guys been married for we suck a dating a year.
Speaker 1: The question is do you sucking marriage? So we're doing fine.
Speaker 1: I think, I hope we're good talking about you know,
Speaker 1: we've been together for eleven years for and that's an
Speaker 1: accomplishment together fourteen years, eleven years in this business and
Speaker 1: two kids and two kids kids, one going on eight
Speaker 1: in January, one going will be two in November. The boy,
Speaker 1: the baby and girl. Congratulations, So what's life being married
Speaker 1: eleven years? Like just just like you said, what's life? Well,
Speaker 1: I've been married for a month. For a month, I've
Speaker 1: been married for a little over a month. Ye, just
Speaker 1: put a ring on it and it's great. So it's good.
Speaker 1: That's great, amazing, it's great. It's the Evan flow. It's
Speaker 1: Eric loves to say. It's work. So it's like any job, work, work, work, work.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, what does work marriage? Or
Speaker 1: is it? Is it work being married to to me? No,
Speaker 1: it's not. Well, well it's always a little definitely a
Speaker 1: lot of working. It takes work, It takes the time,
Speaker 1: and you know, it comes so easy when you're in
Speaker 1: the early stages and as you're a decade in, well
Speaker 1: you're in then you half to really, you know, keep
Speaker 1: it creative, keep it interesting, keep it fun. And what
Speaker 1: is that like for you guys, Because we've had married
Speaker 1: couples on the podcast before, but you two are like
Speaker 1: very much in the spotlight, right and so like as uh,
Speaker 1: incredibly attractive people and you're busy, I'm sure with your work.
Speaker 1: Like what do you do to kind of keep it
Speaker 1: interesting for you guys a decade later? Well, I mean
Speaker 1: there's the it's the cliche of you know, got to
Speaker 1: have a date now you really do. You gotta keep
Speaker 1: it interesting with that we have I have something planned
Speaker 1: for her next next, next, yeah, said, after get done
Speaker 1: with work? What if? What if I'm booked cancer? Your plans?
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, it's so funny hearing you know,
Speaker 1: husband and wife talk because you're planning the surprise. We
Speaker 1: have to make sure that she's free. So it's like,
Speaker 1: all right, honey, next Wednesday night, just don't plan anything. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's a surprise, but I'm telling you that it's going
Speaker 1: to be a surprise. And also with having kids, and
Speaker 1: we were just talking about this, we need a vacation,
Speaker 1: like just the two of us, to go away, even
Speaker 1: just for four days. Well you know what happens, Like
Speaker 1: we can wait. We used to travel like crazy before
Speaker 1: the kids, and now with kids and work is very difficult. Um,
Speaker 1: and we for months I've been telling him I need
Speaker 1: a little vacation. I just want to go away, even
Speaker 1: if it's like some migil dion. They're like Mexico, something quick,
Speaker 1: let's just do something. And then the um, what was
Speaker 1: it three weeks ago when we went to Vegas for
Speaker 1: twenty four hours. We leave the house right and the
Speaker 1: little babies with the nanny and they're saying goodbye, and
Speaker 1: within thirty seconds, I'm going, oh my god, we should
Speaker 1: should have brought the kids. I was like, no, we're
Speaker 1: going to Vegas for a night, So do you want
Speaker 1: to escape for a little bit. But the second you escape,
Speaker 1: you're like, actually, I didn't want to do that. If
Speaker 1: you get on vacation, you're like, I wonder what the kids,
Speaker 1: what they're making about you guys? That's the important I
Speaker 1: want to know what this day it's gonna be like,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm excited for it. I'm not even be part
Speaker 1: of it at all. You're taking me to a rosal.
Speaker 1: And you said something that we actually talked about on
Speaker 1: the podcast a couple of weeks ago, the difference between
Speaker 1: spending time with through significant other and spending quality time
Speaker 1: with your significant other. And I'm sure that you guys
Speaker 1: can talk a little bit about this, the difference between
Speaker 1: those two things, because even in the early stages of
Speaker 1: marriage and being engaged, I find that my wife Ashley
Speaker 1: and I, we lived together, we do a lot of
Speaker 1: work together, um, and so we spend so much time together.
Speaker 1: And then when I we were went on our honeymoon
Speaker 1: and it was just the two of us and there
Speaker 1: was no work or any distractions, I realized that we
Speaker 1: actually don't spend a lot of quality time together because
Speaker 1: when we had no distractions, there was a certain different
Speaker 1: connection that we had in that moment that we hadn't
Speaker 1: had in the months. Um. So do you relate to
Speaker 1: that as well and with us? And I'm sure it
Speaker 1: happens to you guys, you know, because what we do
Speaker 1: for a living with an entertainment business, you know, and
Speaker 1: so much as about social media, and we're obsessed with
Speaker 1: the Instagram and this and that. So even when we're
Speaker 1: home and we put the kids to bed and then
Speaker 1: we have some time to connect, he gets so mad
Speaker 1: at me because I'm is the time that I have
Speaker 1: to go through Instagram. That she actually admitted it. By
Speaker 1: the way, I'm so glad she admitted that was huge.
Speaker 1: That's like a therapy session that you actually came forward
Speaker 1: to that because I know about and I still do
Speaker 1: it that I'll just put the phone down for a minute.
Speaker 1: You have all day, like, let's hang out. Whatever we're
Speaker 1: gonna do, like watch I'm watching currently Game of Thrones,
Speaker 1: which I know is really weird, but I never watched it,
Speaker 1: so I'm binging it. I try to get her into it.
Speaker 1: You know what, Okay, I guess what, so um you
Speaker 1: will get give me because I'm on Instagram now he's
Speaker 1: obsessed with Game of Thrones. You don't give me the
Speaker 1: time of day. At night, I go to bed and
Speaker 1: all he's doing your Instagram is his game of right.
Speaker 1: And then what's funny that you guys mentioned that because
Speaker 1: Kaylin and are very much the same way. I'm like
Speaker 1: borderline addicted to my phone. It's like whenever I'm hanging
Speaker 1: out with Kaylin. I'm like always scrolling through Instagram editing pictures,
Speaker 1: like just doing something, and she's always like, dude, just
Speaker 1: like pay attention to me. Like I'm paying attention. I'm
Speaker 1: just like distracting, Yeah, listening to most of the things
Speaker 1: that you're saying. What I'll do did like to mess
Speaker 1: with her is let's say we're out somewhere and we're
Speaker 1: heard festival a few weeks ago, and let me get
Speaker 1: some pictures and not take the pictures that we're going
Speaker 1: to post, and then I she'll share me the share
Speaker 1: the pictures. They shared the pictures. I said, no, I'll
Speaker 1: give him to you later because I know as soon
Speaker 1: as they shot. So she's like give me and I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: you can have them later. It's so interesting. I wonder,
Speaker 1: like what forty years ago, what that distraction would have
Speaker 1: been in place what we are distracted by now, which
Speaker 1: is Instagram, you know what I mean. But there hasn't
Speaker 1: been something I don't know. I guess just TV when
Speaker 1: it first came out, because they always have those old
Speaker 1: television shows where it would be the guy sitting on
Speaker 1: the chair and watching TV, reading the paper exactly not
Speaker 1: paying attention to his wife and now in twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: it's just on his phone. Um, so you guys have
Speaker 1: a podcast coming out we do? Is it a joint
Speaker 1: podcast between the two of you? Yeah, okay, amazing. It's
Speaker 1: called he said? He said? He said, which is um?
Speaker 1: He said? She said ada? She said the hole is
Speaker 1: that Portuguese day as? Yeah? Yeah, okay, I love that.
Speaker 1: Maybe the title, she said, blending our diversity, a multi
Speaker 1: cultural relationship that we have and talking about you know,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a cancer. She's an airy. Say what's your
Speaker 1: what's your nice? Okay, so you're like right in the middle. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm like cost I'm almost Taurus. Both of my parents
Speaker 1: as were tough. Yeah, very tough, very tough cancer aries.
Speaker 1: Is that like we're supposed to clash exactly? Okay, guys,
Speaker 1: we always claimed that we make it work because I
Speaker 1: can sort of calm nur, fire up my water to
Speaker 1: keep me you know, interesting, she said, keeping. Yeah, she
Speaker 1: says I'm a dud, which is completely okay. My wife
Speaker 1: calls me a dud all the time. There you go. Actually,
Speaker 1: so you know what, who's the home bother who wants
Speaker 1: to stay at all the time? I do that. This
Speaker 1: made me a dott is know what I want to do?
Speaker 1: What is going on out of dott is a state
Speaker 1: of your m deep right dreamer already can't wait to
Speaker 1: listen to this dreamer. She says, I'm the dream He's
Speaker 1: a dream popper? Is that? Eric? I fantasize with buying
Speaker 1: some land in um All High at some point in
Speaker 1: my life because I want to rescue do What do
Speaker 1: you mean You're never gonna do that? Is that? Can
Speaker 1: I just dream? What if five five years I will
Speaker 1: buy some freaking lad and rescue some dogs. Dream she
Speaker 1: wants a horse really bad, and I will get a horse.
Speaker 1: One day started dating, I was like, you'll get a
Speaker 1: horse at one point, so I take her out of
Speaker 1: date is early on I was like, this true true story.
Speaker 1: I take her to ride horse. That was my whole surprise.
Speaker 1: I would take it there right up the Hollywood birthday
Speaker 1: right end at like a dinner. You knew she loved horses. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be great. As soon as we pull up
Speaker 1: she sees the horse, she goes, you bought me a horse?
Speaker 1: Like no, I didn't buy you a horse? Good God,
Speaker 1: how cool? How amazing? It would have been. If this
Speaker 1: guy that you're dating for a couple of months gets
Speaker 1: your horse, that is a bollowr. Then taking care of
Speaker 1: this horse broke up a horse? Well you know what
Speaker 1: it was. It was a horse gave me so to
Speaker 1: my sadness, it wasn't a horse. So I was a
Speaker 1: dream popper for that dreams. At least now you know,
Speaker 1: it's better than buying a horse and then your dream
Speaker 1: being popped, right Like, at least you just gotta ride
Speaker 1: one rent one for a little bit and you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: maybe we're going that's what it is. That's that was
Speaker 1: one of the earlier dates than you were saying, how
Speaker 1: did you guys meet when at a club? No, it
Speaker 1: wasn't a club. See, I love this because everybody has
Speaker 1: a different story. It was an event at a club, Okay,
Speaker 1: it was it was a venue. The venue wasn't a club,
Speaker 1: he keeps saying, as a club. Anyways, it was an
Speaker 1: event for Sony or I don't know, I don't even know.
Speaker 1: It was your pioneer speakers. It's like maximum maximum one
Speaker 1: pioneer speaker or something like that. She was on the
Speaker 1: Hot one list and you love pioneer speaking speaker. And
Speaker 1: I was the VP area, of course, and he wasn't.
Speaker 1: I just got there. I was on my way. I
Speaker 1: just walked in. She's like a guarantee you. He was
Speaker 1: the part of how to how to ask you out?
Speaker 1: Because I walked into the VIP area because you're like,
Speaker 1: you're like a Mr. Congeniality and a talker, and you
Speaker 1: talk your way out of everything. So he convinced whoever
Speaker 1: the person in charge of letting people go in to
Speaker 1: go up bounder a few men up there. I gotta
Speaker 1: admit that doesn't sound like a dud though, to talk
Speaker 1: his way into the v I P area. I'm I'm talking.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was part of if you
Speaker 1: have an IUDEA. I'm just I just made that up.
Speaker 1: But he showed up and that was it. I basically
Speaker 1: just walked right up there and said, hey, you know,
Speaker 1: my name is Eric. Can I get you a drink?
Speaker 1: And she's like, I don't drink? Can I get you?
Speaker 1: Would you like anything or you parched at all? Well,
Speaker 1: you can give me a pineapple juice. I'll be right back,
Speaker 1: And he did want a pineapple juice, and that's how
Speaker 1: it all started. With pineapple juice. It was actually was.
Speaker 1: I started with that and then h happened? Happened that week?
Speaker 1: Did you guys exchange numbers? No, I with I had
Speaker 1: a boyfriend, so I knew his intentions, and as a
Speaker 1: good girlfriend, I said, he asked for my numbers something.
Speaker 1: I said, listen, just you clear, Um, I have a boyfriend.
Speaker 1: And then he said, well, can I be attracted to
Speaker 1: my friend? And I said, that's kind of ache. I
Speaker 1: look back and I'm like, yeah, but you're married. And
Speaker 1: then I said that's on you. And then he exchanged
Speaker 1: numbers with gamal right, And I was at the buddy
Speaker 1: and she had a friend there, and we all, like
Speaker 1: the friends, like the people that were there, just started
Speaker 1: hanging out with other girls and my friend. Um. Then
Speaker 1: she left, she went to she go shoot a movie
Speaker 1: for a few months, and I was in l A
Speaker 1: And and I just started. I was with her friend.
Speaker 1: I was still single, going out and doing the club
Speaker 1: thing and my buddy and her friend. And three or
Speaker 1: four months later, she's in a different position and guess
Speaker 1: who calls me? Wait, so you called him? Can I
Speaker 1: explain nothing more? Let me explain. My friend that was
Speaker 1: with me at this party, Maryland was engaged her fans
Speaker 1: passed away on a motorcycle accident. I'm in Puerto Rico shooting,
Speaker 1: and I'm talking to Marley and says, you know who's
Speaker 1: been really supportive and they're so nice that Mike wasn't
Speaker 1: Mike and Eric the guys that we met at so
Speaker 1: at that party, I'm going they've been amazing. Buh. Fast
Speaker 1: forward two. I'm back in Puerto Rico, like almost four
Speaker 1: months back in the l like four months later, and
Speaker 1: I'm driving and I asked my com my assistant at
Speaker 1: the time, I want to say thank you to that guy, Eric,
Speaker 1: do you still have the number? And I called to
Speaker 1: say thank you? And then and and here we are
Speaker 1: because that thank you was super important to say. So
Speaker 1: on the phone who so who do you think? Asked
Speaker 1: who out first? He said you want to grab some
Speaker 1: launch at some point or something. And then assistant, which
Speaker 1: was so cheesy, with my friend Nina. So it's the
Speaker 1: three of you. Yeah, I'm like, oh, why did you
Speaker 1: shot with a friend? This is ridiculous. But the real
Speaker 1: important takeaway from this is Eric is just a really
Speaker 1: nice guy and a good friend, and that's the reason
Speaker 1: that you were like, Okay, let's see, I promise I
Speaker 1: didn't think any my my. My reason for calling wasn't like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to that I want in the fact
Speaker 1: that he was supportive for your friend. You meet your
Speaker 1: friend too, that's a big thing. He was amazing. I
Speaker 1: don't know to this day he's he's an amazing man.
Speaker 1: He's that kind of person right now, which is great.
Speaker 1: And I think that we've heard time and time again.
Speaker 1: It didn't necessarily work. The origin wasn't this for you, guys,
Speaker 1: But since you shared that mutual friend, when you can
Speaker 1: have like friends vouching for someone that you might be
Speaker 1: interested in, that's like you're breaking your You're skipping like
Speaker 1: nine bases in that sense, you know, because then you're
Speaker 1: kind of seeing the true sides of them and how
Speaker 1: they are around the people that they care about, and
Speaker 1: it's like super super important. Of course, Yeah, one of
Speaker 1: the most important thing you can find out about significant
Speaker 1: other is how they are around your friends. I always
Speaker 1: said I want to be with someone who my friends
Speaker 1: would want to hang out with even if I wasn't there,
Speaker 1: And so I knew I found the one when my
Speaker 1: friends were like, we'd rather hang out with your wife
Speaker 1: than you. Alright, that's good. So Jared just got married
Speaker 1: last month, and uh, at the rehearsal dinner right before,
Speaker 1: like five minutes before, they were like, hey, Dean, Ben
Speaker 1: and Nick, you guys are all gonna give speeches real
Speaker 1: quick because we were all groomsmen, and I just wanted
Speaker 1: them to speak from the heart for the speeches. You're like,
Speaker 1: we're you guys arena speeches. Ben. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you guys know Ben Higgins fantastic speech giver, Like he's
Speaker 1: just the most charismatic, like deliverer of all things in
Speaker 1: front of and Nick he's like an actor, you know,
Speaker 1: he's he's he's a smart person too. So he like
Speaker 1: cried during his speech. Are you trying to say that
Speaker 1: he was faking? I'm not saying he was speaking, but
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he can turn it on. And then
Speaker 1: I go up there after both of them just crushed it.
Speaker 1: And the only thing I felt so bad because after
Speaker 1: I got down was like all I did was talking
Speaker 1: about actually the entire time, like Jared and I are
Speaker 1: better friends, but actually now we're friends. First, yeah, you
Speaker 1: guys had a closer relationship, and then once we started
Speaker 1: doing the podcast, we became good friend. But to your
Speaker 1: point that you just made, it's you want to be
Speaker 1: dating someone or married to someone that your friends want
Speaker 1: to hang out with even if you're not there. So
Speaker 1: that's the point that I'm trying to make, because like
Speaker 1: I felt that, I thought it was really ironic that
Speaker 1: now that you and I are maybe better friends and
Speaker 1: Ashuley and I are the only person I talked about
Speaker 1: was actually because we were really good friends before you
Speaker 1: and I ever were friends. And so that's how I think,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, you can tell when you're someone's like,
Speaker 1: you know, you want to spend the rest of life
Speaker 1: with them, when your friends want to be friends with
Speaker 1: them too, Yes, exactly. And for me, my personal experience
Speaker 1: with it too is whenever I like get a girlfriend
Speaker 1: or started dating someone who I always bring them around
Speaker 1: my best friends, and then after what they leave, I'm
Speaker 1: always like, what do you guys think of her? Like?
Speaker 1: What's she cool? Do you like her? Yeah? But like
Speaker 1: you also need people that are honest because sometimes they're
Speaker 1: gonna be like, oh, yeah, she was great, she was great,
Speaker 1: and then you break up with her and then they're like,
Speaker 1: oh we hated her, we hate well, then why do
Speaker 1: you tell me you hate it? I know, but it's
Speaker 1: also hard. That's that's hard because as your friend, you
Speaker 1: also don't want to be the one to say, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't like that person, because then you say that
Speaker 1: and then it calls in friction. Then they're like, well,
Speaker 1: you don't know them as good as I do, and
Speaker 1: you don't see what you see your friends. Yeah, there
Speaker 1: was a there's a little bit of my last girlfriend.
Speaker 1: I introduced her to like two of my best friends,
Speaker 1: and then after we left, they both texted me and
Speaker 1: they go, you're dating that girl? Like is that real?
Speaker 1: Like you're actually dating here? And I was like, what
Speaker 1: do you mean? Yes? But now I'm not sure anymore.
Speaker 1: Dang it? What did she do? Okay, so you guys
Speaker 1: have this new podcast, he said, yes, So tell us
Speaker 1: what it's. What it's about. It's gonna encompass, We're gonna
Speaker 1: talk a lot about our life, relationships, pop culture. Here's
Speaker 1: the thing about this, though I don't necessarily like it
Speaker 1: might be competing with our podcast version. You guys are
Speaker 1: not allowed to talk about dating at all. On your
Speaker 1: body about it and if any of you suck at dating,
Speaker 1: you're about that first episode, we sing no, we won't,
Speaker 1: we won't. Um, But yeah, I mean for fourteen years
Speaker 1: of dating, eleven years of marriage, two kids, and I'm
Speaker 1: sure you guys like lead incredibly interesting line like the
Speaker 1: work that you're in. It's yeah, it's it's crazy with
Speaker 1: both actors. UM. Like to give you a little example, UM,
Speaker 1: the show that I did before my last show, I
Speaker 1: was I relocated to Atlanta for four years and his
Speaker 1: show was in Vancouver, So I might did having a
Speaker 1: child and you are in two different countries, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like situations like that that you just
Speaker 1: go hard to do it and goes We don't know.
Speaker 1: It's a constant negotiation, you know, and it's hard. It's hard,
Speaker 1: but we make it work. You know, we make it
Speaker 1: work through communication. And we're just very different. We're talking
Speaker 1: about before signs, which our personalities. We're truly we everybody
Speaker 1: says like we're opposite to track to the nth degree,
Speaker 1: But in a way those opposites really strengthen our relationship
Speaker 1: and bring out the better and each of us and
Speaker 1: kind of keep it fun and interesting. That's great. You.
Speaker 1: I know what I always think about the other day
Speaker 1: because me and my girlfriend are very different as well,
Speaker 1: similar to you, guys, I'm probably gonna do it. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna butcher this right. You know, how many times do
Speaker 1: you start a story? You know, I was thinking about
Speaker 1: the other day, I think anyways, the whole the whole
Speaker 1: reason that you're gonna laugh at Mobe want to say this,
Speaker 1: The whole reason evolution works species is it's genetic diversity, right,
Speaker 1: And it's the fact that to uh, you're you're constantly
Speaker 1: building off of, like the differences in ore like genome,
Speaker 1: and so when you look at a relationship, sometimes relationships
Speaker 1: canna work so well because they're so different, and if
Speaker 1: they're like if there's too many similarities in a relationship,
Speaker 1: it's similar to like genetics, where it's like that's why
Speaker 1: incest is really bad. It is because this genetic code
Speaker 1: is too similar. And so that's why differences in relationships
Speaker 1: like you guys, and like, in my opinion, me and
Speaker 1: Kalin can work so well is because you like build
Speaker 1: off of the differences you learn from her. She learns
Speaker 1: from you in ways that you, guys, would never have
Speaker 1: learned had you not been together in the first place.
Speaker 1: And that's like an exciting thing and that's like something
Speaker 1: I'm still trying to figure out too. So it's good
Speaker 1: that I can kind of like look at you guys
Speaker 1: and be like, Okay, fourteen years two kids, that's like
Speaker 1: something for me to strive for. There, you know, you
Speaker 1: can just listen to our podcast. Yeah, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna listen. Here's the thing I'm not gonna listen,
Speaker 1: like he's stole from. If you're listening to this podcast,
Speaker 1: I encourage you to listen to there. It's coming out
Speaker 1: in October. This this month's coming this month in October,
Speaker 1: which is the month that we're in right now. That
Speaker 1: was Vegas for you guys. Did you guys have fun it?
Speaker 1: I heart yeah time. Yes, we introduced um monster X.
Speaker 1: Okay do k pop is huge? Bts that bandy the
Speaker 1: original It was like the pioneers of the K pop thing. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm asking think there's this like little There's a show
Speaker 1: on Netflix called Unexplained. If you like these just random
Speaker 1: bits of knowledge and thirty minute births. One of them
Speaker 1: is about k pop. It's about how it all started
Speaker 1: and just the rise of it and how they're like
Speaker 1: the Beatles. It's insane. You saw it with us, and
Speaker 1: there's you know, it's in't just there's seven, there's seven
Speaker 1: of them. It feels like a like a bunch, like
Speaker 1: a group. Like usually it's a lot, it's like four
Speaker 1: or five. It is seven kids. And they all look
Speaker 1: very similar, slightly different hair, slightly different dress, but everything's
Speaker 1: how is this the word um? And how do you
Speaker 1: say that? I'm very andrugying as they all have a makeup,
Speaker 1: which is part of the thing, and very thin just
Speaker 1: can't tell sexually ambiguous part. I've seen that before. There's
Speaker 1: because a lot of people try to like emulate the
Speaker 1: K pop artists in those countries, like in Korea and
Speaker 1: China or whatever. And I remember like watching some weird
Speaker 1: documentary about it, and how like he like went through
Speaker 1: these insane procedures to try to like look like one
Speaker 1: of his favorite K pop artists, and you look at
Speaker 1: him and you're exactly like you said, the androgynous is
Speaker 1: a great way to put it. But they're huge or
Speaker 1: so big. I did it a girl for a while
Speaker 1: who was Korean, and she was obsessed with like this
Speaker 1: one K pop band, and I like listen to some
Speaker 1: of their songs and they were catchy, I guess, but
Speaker 1: they're like insanely popular. Mind they are the Beatles everywhere else.
Speaker 1: They're not huge in the States yet. I mean they're
Speaker 1: getting getting big. People like the kids were people the
Speaker 1: more the afternoon and the one of the hits is
Speaker 1: called who do You Love? And I said, just because
Speaker 1: what are going to say? We present them so I
Speaker 1: have a question who do you Love? On everybody went
Speaker 1: like I was, like, every being on stage is like,
Speaker 1: this might be the biggest reaction of the day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's the end we're in. Obviously, Monster Monster, ex
Speaker 1: interesting Monster. What about the night show? Were you guys excited? Yeah,
Speaker 1: presenting Alicia Keys and that's I mean, that's pretty cheesy star. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Ilusha Key is one of the best, and she's just
Speaker 1: been around. She's been around forever, right, Like she's kills
Speaker 1: it every single year. Yeah, she's awesome. She's a badass.
Speaker 1: So being able to intro her that's pretty awesome. That
Speaker 1: is pretty It was a good trip. Besides the podcast.
Speaker 1: What else you guys working on? I've currently I'm on
Speaker 1: a show on ABC called The Rookie. So we are
Speaker 1: shooting episode seven and right now I'm exciting. It's my
Speaker 1: big sports fans that we're teaming up with. I guess
Speaker 1: I can see if I can say an NFL team
Speaker 1: is in the episode, so it's NFL players and it's
Speaker 1: it's gonna be fun. What fault team? What team you're for?
Speaker 1: I'm a Rams fan, Okay, you're probably pretty excited Patriots fan. No,
Speaker 1: I'm a Tom Brady fan. Oh, you've got great taste,
Speaker 1: my friend. We have to dedicate a whole is it
Speaker 1: called an episode U one episode of a podcast, So
Speaker 1: we have to dedicate an episode to Tom Brady. That's
Speaker 1: if you do that, you need to invite me. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I might have a bigger man crush on Tom Brady
Speaker 1: than you, which is in love with Tom Brady. He's
Speaker 1: just amazing. I mean, six times super Bowl champion, beautiful
Speaker 1: man marriages. You're a Patriots fan, right, Yeah? I was
Speaker 1: born and raised completely respect the Patriots and love everything
Speaker 1: about I mean, the system, the way they do it
Speaker 1: all is pretty perfect. Patriots fan. Or I gotta grew
Speaker 1: up in l A. So I've always been Rams raiders,
Speaker 1: like whoever was there at the time. Now we have
Speaker 1: the Rams and charges don't really count. That's kind of
Speaker 1: San Diego. Still in my mind, you go back say
Speaker 1: it's really weird. But uh yeah you can't tonight, Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: nobody can. Okay anyway, sorry I stopped Brady. Um. I
Speaker 1: did a show called grund Hotel. Um. It's about representation.
Speaker 1: It's it's not a Latin show, but it's predominantly Latin,
Speaker 1: you know, and every network is it's always asking wait.
Speaker 1: This was the show that aired before Bachelor. I don't watch,
Speaker 1: but I watched a couple episodes that and I was like, Wow,
Speaker 1: I'm so hooked on this show. Who knows that I
Speaker 1: never watched TV as like, I gotta figure out what
Speaker 1: happens next week. It's a juicy novella. And and yeah,
Speaker 1: so every network, their mandate is the one Latino content
Speaker 1: because they want to tapped into the into the demographic.
Speaker 1: And then here's a show that was a huge It's
Speaker 1: based on a format out of Netflix, out of Spain
Speaker 1: that is humongous. So even Gloria came to the States
Speaker 1: and says, listen, I wanted to the Anglo version. ABC
Speaker 1: acquired it. It's done beautifully. The acting is phenomenal. People
Speaker 1: love but and still we don't know if we have
Speaker 1: a second season, so at this point, we don't know
Speaker 1: what the heck we have to do as the Latin
Speaker 1: Eggs community, you know what I mean, like, what do
Speaker 1: we do to win? What do we do if we're
Speaker 1: bringing you something that works and still you don't give
Speaker 1: it a chance? You know, it's pretty it's pretty efvident.
Speaker 1: We're going to keep our fingers crossed for you because
Speaker 1: I really hope that gets piped up. I hope so
Speaker 1: I apologize because I get a little heating, like settled down.
Speaker 1: This is uh, we're mad, boys, I'm mad. We'll definitely
Speaker 1: bring the passion and the heat, not the dudness to
Speaker 1: the new podcast. Now it's he said, yes, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I I speak Spanish like Sword of Right and so
Speaker 1: when I you said, I heard like Asia di hoo
Speaker 1: or something like that, which was my mistake. But I
Speaker 1: want to get more flu in Spanish. Same he said
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Speaker 1: I feel like I sound one like one of those
Speaker 1: late night hosts right there, like, hey, welcome to KM
Speaker 1: and twenty. I hope you're having You're having the grooviest
Speaker 1: night of your life. Some of you guys just driving
Speaker 1: out there late at night, all by yourself, get about
Speaker 1: love loss through some speed trapdown all. I can smell
Speaker 1: our Dean's feet. Legitimately, it's all I could think about
Speaker 1: right now. I'm sorry I didn't wear socks today. Now
Speaker 1: I'm wearing sandals and they don't smell the best, and
Speaker 1: I've now self conscious about it. I just got a
Speaker 1: big old whiff of them. Anyway, we have another guest
Speaker 1: in studio that we're very very excited about. A lot
Speaker 1: of podcasts on my Heart Radio have been trying to
Speaker 1: get you as a guest, trying trying successfully, I know,
Speaker 1: for facts scrubbing in yes, exactly if you're listening to
Speaker 1: the Weeks and you listen to Scrubbing In, you should
Speaker 1: know how excited we are to have this guest on
Speaker 1: our podcast because not only we all know Easton. Of course,
Speaker 1: Easton has been around since the beginning of not only
Speaker 1: Healthy Dating, not only Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and
Speaker 1: Tanya rad not only Almost Famous with Ben and Ashy I,
Speaker 1: but also the Pratt Cast with Wells Adams and Stephanie Pratt,
Speaker 1: including Ja Cramer's what's that one called wine? This guy's
Speaker 1: all over the place. He's basically Easton is now getting
Speaker 1: stopped at Disneyland to be asked to be for pictures.
Speaker 1: And then I'm not exaggerating that, not joking, No you're not.
Speaker 1: But behind every great man is an even greater woman.
Speaker 1: And we are honored to have Alison Alan, Easton's wife
Speaker 1: on the podcast. That's quite an introductions. All right, Allison,
Speaker 1: just give it to a straight What's Easton like in bed? No?
Speaker 1: I'm kidding, uh inappropriate? She's like, why am I here?
Speaker 1: What did I do? She says when we're in bed?
Speaker 1: I mean his willingness to Sniffin's armpits should give you
Speaker 1: and I just need to get this off my chest.
Speaker 1: I'm glad. I'm not glad, but I'm actually jealous that
Speaker 1: you're married to this man, because if it wasn't you,
Speaker 1: I would be all over him. It's pretty great, he
Speaker 1: really is. It takes me ten years, but I'm glad
Speaker 1: that I decided to do. He like he slowly lets
Speaker 1: us into your guys love story, like over time sometimes
Speaker 1: like I'll chime in whenever we're sharing our stories, and
Speaker 1: every time it's the most adorable, most endearing thing ever.
Speaker 1: So I like, obviously he's in love with you, You're
Speaker 1: in love with him. It's the It's it's a love
Speaker 1: story of a generation. You guys are just so in love.
Speaker 1: But also, you guys are just the most adorable couple
Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my entire life. You're so innocent
Speaker 1: and cute, and you guys go to Disneyland and cheesecake
Speaker 1: Factory and you guys, everybody says a couple of goals, right,
Speaker 1: Like a couple of goals? Kaylin and Dean or couple goals?
Speaker 1: No no no no no no no no. Easton and
Speaker 1: Alison Allen are a couple. Let me ask you this,
Speaker 1: did you have an obsession? With Disney. Before Mary, I
Speaker 1: had a really wild twenties, like lots of sex, lots
Speaker 1: of drugs, and then I think I was just over it.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Wait a minute what. I was ready
Speaker 1: to retire from the party girl lifestyle. And then east
Speaker 1: realized I wanted a good guy. And the thing Eastern
Speaker 1: is a bad boy. He doesn't get enough ever being
Speaker 1: a bad lay because he is. He's got edge. He's
Speaker 1: got a dark side for tattoos, and the tattoos are
Speaker 1: enough of the give away, the Red Barnes sponsorship. He's missed.
Speaker 1: What do you miss, Caramel, I'm the Carminal carn princess.
Speaker 1: He's got edge, He's a man of passion. When he
Speaker 1: wants something, he goes. I love that. So you had
Speaker 1: a wild twenties, Oh yeah, I was. Eastern didn't want
Speaker 1: to Dami. I was a bad girl. Right. Hold, And
Speaker 1: so let's let's backtrack here for a second, because you've
Speaker 1: told this story a little bit. How did you guys
Speaker 1: first meet and then when did you start dating? So
Speaker 1: we met. I went to school at UCSC and Santa
Speaker 1: Cruz and that's where Easton grew up. So we met
Speaker 1: when we were like seventeen working in a movie theater together.
Speaker 1: Eastern was my boss and we were friends for a
Speaker 1: long time and then, um, I think about it was
Speaker 1: like nine years later. We both moved to l A
Speaker 1: within a month of each other. And then I always
Speaker 1: say it was like desert island syndrome. I didn't know anyone,
Speaker 1: so we started dating and then we got married. Did
Speaker 1: you guys talk like So he became friends at the
Speaker 1: movie theater. By the way, what were your jobs? Well,
Speaker 1: I was a snacker attendant, and then it became the
Speaker 1: projection step up, thank you. I was the box office person.
Speaker 1: I would count the money the cue box office girl,
Speaker 1: You'd walk up and be like, I'm buying a ticket.
Speaker 1: But this is already a wrong com You're working the
Speaker 1: box office, you're collecting the money. Easton selling popcorn. But
Speaker 1: he's not even looking at the popcorn. Be All he
Speaker 1: could do is stare at you and think about how
Speaker 1: he's going to marry that girl one day. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: still like to tell me how much she would talk
Speaker 1: about my butt with my other coworker. I haven't been
Speaker 1: allowed on the money. I thought, let's actually not let
Speaker 1: her be on the podcat she's got a good butt,
Speaker 1: and it's great that you can admit that she does.
Speaker 1: All right, So you guys worked together and then became friendly.
Speaker 1: Did you stay friends over the course of the nine
Speaker 1: years before you move back to some of my best
Speaker 1: friends for like a decade before we started dating. So
Speaker 1: I always thought he was great. I just never thought
Speaker 1: we would date because we were so different. So how
Speaker 1: was that for you, Eastern, Because did you have a
Speaker 1: crush on her the entire nine years or was you
Speaker 1: were always like kind of friend he was talking about her,
Speaker 1: but of course I talked a lot about a lot
Speaker 1: of but I talked about your butt often. Okay, so
Speaker 1: it's like you obviously have a crush on me, you know. Um,
Speaker 1: Alison and I hung out so much and I really
Speaker 1: really liked her, but I had a really bad experience
Speaker 1: with like dating someone who is my friend, and I
Speaker 1: was so afraid of losing Allison in my life. And
Speaker 1: we we kind of we like hooked up one night
Speaker 1: and it it didn't go that well because of me.
Speaker 1: How long into the friendship was this That was like
Speaker 1: six months in and then it was like ten years happened.
Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want to throw off track.
Speaker 1: But sidebart real quick. What didn't go right? Well, sometimes
Speaker 1: a man is not up to you know. In my case,
Speaker 1: I had a migraine that Now, see here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying, but the listeners might not
Speaker 1: get what you're saying. Okay, uh spell it out for
Speaker 1: We hang out and there was we understood there was
Speaker 1: a there was an attraction there, and uh we started
Speaker 1: we started fooling around and I wasn't let's say, uh no,
Speaker 1: I've never been intoxicated, but we I had a migraine
Speaker 1: that night and I had a hard time making it happen,
Speaker 1: you know, and I was embarrassed to that. And did
Speaker 1: we ever get did the fireworks ever happened? Or was
Speaker 1: it one of those things where no, I mean we
Speaker 1: we hadn't. We spent the night together and it was
Speaker 1: a nice night. And then here's the thing. This will
Speaker 1: tell you exactly what you hear. This was uh I
Speaker 1: um was I was trying to like. I wanted to
Speaker 1: text her next saying and be like, hey, I'm really
Speaker 1: sorry about last night and I really like you, but
Speaker 1: I didn't because I'm a coward. Allison texted me and
Speaker 1: said something in the effect of like, hey, I had
Speaker 1: fun last night, we should do it again. I had
Speaker 1: a teamable sidekick back then, and I would not get
Speaker 1: text messages all the time from different carriers. I never
Speaker 1: got that message from I texted. You just never respond
Speaker 1: How did we know that it was texted? She told
Speaker 1: me years later. Years later, years later, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: is that into. We'll just pretend like it didn't happen
Speaker 1: for the next tenure. And I just want to be
Speaker 1: clear about something. Is I'm sure Jared contested this too.
Speaker 1: As men, sometimes things just don't really go how you
Speaker 1: want them to go, especially like when you step up
Speaker 1: to the plate. Sometimes you might have grabbed the wrong
Speaker 1: bat and you're just not ready to swing at a pitch, yeah,
Speaker 1: or sometimes you just whiff right. I'm just I just
Speaker 1: I want to make sure it's clear that that's not
Speaker 1: an uncommon thing, you know, exactly. There's nothing wrong. There's
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with Yeah. There's so much excitement and build up,
Speaker 1: and it's also being self aware that it's not working
Speaker 1: and you become embarrassed and then your mind then it's
Speaker 1: never gonna happen, you know. It's one of those things
Speaker 1: overthink Yeah, if I had just been like upfront about
Speaker 1: it like a man would have, then we probably we
Speaker 1: might start dating a lot earlier. And you know, we
Speaker 1: know what happened. You know, it thinks we're going great
Speaker 1: since then. But so, you guys both had mutual feelings
Speaker 1: for each other. But because he never received that text message,
Speaker 1: it took nine years. Years. I had a lot of
Speaker 1: growing up to do in that time too. I like
Speaker 1: to think if that's when like Bruce Wayne left Gotham
Speaker 1: to go like train with you know, becoming Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: and then I was able to come back and be
Speaker 1: like a real partner because Alson is the most incredible
Speaker 1: inventor in my life. And she did not deserve I
Speaker 1: did not deserve her that she needed Batman, she really did,
Speaker 1: but all she had was Bruce Wayne, this millionaire playboy.
Speaker 1: But no, I think that even though that it was,
Speaker 1: it was a really long gap where we weren't romantically together,
Speaker 1: I think it kind of needed to happen. That's what
Speaker 1: I was gonna say. It's almost better that you could
Speaker 1: build a foundation of friendship over the course of that
Speaker 1: amount of time, Like that's almost what you drink, Like
Speaker 1: Jared actually too it like a lesser extend is very similar.
Speaker 1: He was best friends with actually for three years, obviously
Speaker 1: not quite as long as you guys, but then you
Speaker 1: ended up marrying her, So it's like you guys are
Speaker 1: basically did the same thing. Yeah, very similar, right, And
Speaker 1: we're both children of divorce. I think we both have
Speaker 1: trust issues. So I think having that strong foundation of
Speaker 1: a friendship that made it i mean less likely to
Speaker 1: cut and run early into a relationship is a really
Speaker 1: interesting point because it's like, you know that he's been
Speaker 1: around for so long that he's not going to go anywhere, right,
Speaker 1: seeing me through everything, my worst time. So I don't know,
Speaker 1: I think that really I don't. There's no one else
Speaker 1: I would have married. I can't imagine. So let me
Speaker 1: ask you this then, because you said that you had
Speaker 1: this bad experience where you dated a friend and it
Speaker 1: went poorly. So when you and her started dating, like
Speaker 1: just like casually dating or whatever nine years later, where
Speaker 1: you still like scared or hesitant, oh yeah, yeah, it
Speaker 1: was um but I uh and and actually we started
Speaker 1: we started like you know, fooling around and like we're
Speaker 1: hanging out all the time in Los Angeles, Like were
Speaker 1: we didn't know anyone else. We're hanging out all the time,
Speaker 1: and like it was the type of thing where like
Speaker 1: I would get off work and call it and just
Speaker 1: sit in my parking garage and just call and talk
Speaker 1: on the phone until my phone died, and then I'd
Speaker 1: go upstairs and go to bed. And uh. Then at
Speaker 1: a certain point Alison was like, Okay, we are we
Speaker 1: going to date or what? So I guess I'm a
Speaker 1: little confused. I just want to know before we started
Speaker 1: going into the dating in l A the nine years,
Speaker 1: did you guys not see each other enough to have
Speaker 1: the realization that you did it in Los Angeles? Or
Speaker 1: you saw each other constantly. All of my boyfriends hated Easton.
Speaker 1: They were always really jealously. Yeah, totally and actually and
Speaker 1: we're also like there's times where those guys there were
Speaker 1: times where like I was single and I was like,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe this is the time and make my move,
Speaker 1: But Alison had were never single at the same time,
Speaker 1: like the timelines, so you know, I just had to
Speaker 1: wait out. How the hell did you guys stay friends
Speaker 1: for so long? Really, I mean to be together. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say you're wrong, because it sounds like
Speaker 1: you might be right, but I will say, like, no
Speaker 1: offense to Easton, but I think that you might have
Speaker 1: been dating a little more than east and was during
Speaker 1: the nine years, right, I think I've lived like a
Speaker 1: little bit more worldly life than eat which is fine
Speaker 1: and it's totally fine, but you know, it's I would
Speaker 1: think that Eastern have a lot less upset girlfriends for
Speaker 1: having a best friend who is you than your boyfriends
Speaker 1: that were upset. What was your longest relationship in those
Speaker 1: nine years? I think about three years. It wasn't a
Speaker 1: health relationships. I can't believe that guy was like, you
Speaker 1: can't have these in your life because I know for
Speaker 1: a fact that if Ashley and I had we not
Speaker 1: been together right now, I don't think we'd be friends
Speaker 1: really because once she started dating someone seriously, that was
Speaker 1: the first time either one of us started really dating
Speaker 1: someone else, and it would not have worked because even
Speaker 1: like right in the beginning, it was just awkward and
Speaker 1: like he didn't want to meet me, and at the
Speaker 1: time he didn't know this, but I didn't want to
Speaker 1: meet him, and I'm you know, like, yeah, well of course,
Speaker 1: you know, why why wouldn't he ask? I would have
Speaker 1: asked been like, so, what's like, what's up with this?
Speaker 1: Do you think there's ever a point in that relationship
Speaker 1: where he was like I don't want to be friends
Speaker 1: of Jared. No, because I don't think I ever got
Speaker 1: that far because it was only a month and a half.
Speaker 1: But for you guys, like a three year relationship, I'm
Speaker 1: surprised the guy wasn't like listen, like that guy is
Speaker 1: clearly in love with you. You can't be that good
Speaker 1: friends with him because it's causing awkwardness for us. Oh no,
Speaker 1: he definitely we had that conversation. Like he said, he
Speaker 1: likes comic books. He's like so lame. I would never
Speaker 1: date him, don't worry about him. So I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I wasn't trying to be sneaky or you.
Speaker 1: But no, I don't mean that. I don't mean is
Speaker 1: a threat. Even though I did have those feelings, I
Speaker 1: just thought, what's funny is now you're kind of a
Speaker 1: nerd too. I know he's like ruined me, like all
Speaker 1: my coolness fines are. I used to be so cool
Speaker 1: and I'm so lame now. Alson, I lived in San Crease, California,
Speaker 1: very hip place, and she was I called her a
Speaker 1: Queen of the hips. Was some queen guys like this
Speaker 1: is not She got to always like cool party. She
Speaker 1: was always like underground shows and stuff, and and then
Speaker 1: we started hanging out down here and now she's excited
Speaker 1: to go to medieval times in Disneyland. People think about you.
Speaker 1: That's also don't understand, is like they try to be cool,
Speaker 1: but they don't realize how fun being a nerd is.
Speaker 1: You know, it's sound of good about like being a nerd.
Speaker 1: But Eastern is just so him self and he doesn't
Speaker 1: care what people think, and that's such an attractive quality
Speaker 1: that not many people have. Like anyone I've ever met,
Speaker 1: Eastern as just just doesn't care what other people care
Speaker 1: about him. So um, I don't know. I love that
Speaker 1: about him, and I wish I was more like that.
Speaker 1: And even though I might not be as cool as
Speaker 1: any once as I have more funds, I think you're
Speaker 1: I think you're cooler now I think nine years ago
Speaker 1: or anything like that, But I should imagine you being
Speaker 1: any cooler. And I think there's something to be said
Speaker 1: about like obviously having interests in things, whether they're cool
Speaker 1: or not cool in mainstream society like it's so cool
Speaker 1: to like like things, and I think that's kind of
Speaker 1: something that comes with age. It's like when I was
Speaker 1: a kid, I was really embarrassed to like say that
Speaker 1: I played video games to my friends when reality, it's
Speaker 1: like I just liked video games a lot, and so
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have been embarrassed by that, but I was
Speaker 1: because it wasn't like the cool thing to like like
Speaker 1: kids like sports and stuff like that, and I was
Speaker 1: embarrassed to admit I was into boy bands. Now I'm
Speaker 1: posting videos of me just belting out back stream. I
Speaker 1: think too, as you get older, you care, you care
Speaker 1: less what people think. And also just it becomes more
Speaker 1: important about whoever it's with you when bad things happen,
Speaker 1: who's still around, Because you know, those friends you have
Speaker 1: in your twenties, they're there a party, are not going
Speaker 1: to be around when something bad happened to you. And
Speaker 1: I think that's a life lesson. Everybody learns what Easton
Speaker 1: has always been there through everything that's happened. And it's
Speaker 1: been two years years wait years, okay, okay, gotcha, So
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. Our children on the horizon, No,
Speaker 1: I don't think so just our dog. I think, Okay,
Speaker 1: well I do want We didn't finish the story about
Speaker 1: when you guys moved into l A because I just
Speaker 1: wanted to know that one little fact about the nine
Speaker 1: years of friendship, because I knew that Ashley and I
Speaker 1: encounter that problem and I was curious that if you
Speaker 1: had a warring relationship, if you guys ever did so
Speaker 1: now move back to l A. You guys are hanging
Speaker 1: out all the time, and you start, you know, having
Speaker 1: a little yea yeah. And then and then came to
Speaker 1: talk like okay, what's going on here? Yeah? I mean,
Speaker 1: because Alison was like, hey, are we gonna are we
Speaker 1: gonna date? What's going on? Are we going to date
Speaker 1: or what? I didn't want to just waste time because
Speaker 1: I was getting older and I didn't want to be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna waste time on another three year relationship that's
Speaker 1: not going to go anywhere and maybe we're just better
Speaker 1: off as friends, so what's the deal. But we decided like,
Speaker 1: oh well we'll try it, We'll start dating, and then
Speaker 1: I mean, it worked out. It was I don't I
Speaker 1: never thought I would get married. That was never a
Speaker 1: priority for me and I didn't think it was going
Speaker 1: to be Easton, but I'm so happy. It was just
Speaker 1: it surprises me. I didn't want to get married, like
Speaker 1: I always told people, like my parents got divorced, and
Speaker 1: it screwed me up, like I don't want to do
Speaker 1: that to somebody. And but then I met, Like when
Speaker 1: Allison and I started spending that kind of intimate time together,
Speaker 1: I started realizing, like, oh, it's really about the right person. Well,
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you about that because you said
Speaker 1: both of your both of your parents got divorced, right,
Speaker 1: So how do you even approach the topic of marriage
Speaker 1: when both when you don't really have a relationship to
Speaker 1: look up to. When typically what you see is like
Speaker 1: someone has a great family and they want to remulate that.
Speaker 1: But in your case, like you don't want to emulate
Speaker 1: the relationship with your parents had, right, So how did
Speaker 1: you even approach that topic. I don't mean we want
Speaker 1: to do everything differently, right, We're just I mean to
Speaker 1: be honest. I know everybody always says, oh, getting engaged
Speaker 1: was the most exciting. I was terrified. I called my
Speaker 1: best friend crying. I was like, I'm feeling these feelings
Speaker 1: that I can't even put into words because I am
Speaker 1: so scared that this won't work, and I feel like
Speaker 1: that's not a normal reaction when you get engaged. But
Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't know I was so nervous. People
Speaker 1: always ask me, how do you know? How are you certain?
Speaker 1: And I wasn't. I mean so glad I am, but
Speaker 1: I just feel like you never a dent sure with anybody.
Speaker 1: So I agree, and I think, oh, absolutely not that
Speaker 1: I was so terrified about being engaged. But I think
Speaker 1: when Ashley and I were fers dating, I still have
Speaker 1: those feelings of Okay, you're never sure, and that's terrifying.
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people in today's age
Speaker 1: you use it as an excuse to a certain extent,
Speaker 1: uh to say like, well, I'm not sure, so if
Speaker 1: I'm not, then we shouldn't be in a relationship. When actuality,
Speaker 1: I don't think there's ever going to be a time
Speaker 1: in your life when you think, oh, I'm a gonna
Speaker 1: know that this is going to work out for the
Speaker 1: rest of my life and no thing's gonna change. That's
Speaker 1: when I came to the conclusion too as well. But
Speaker 1: I think people don't want to talk about oh, I
Speaker 1: was really scared of making this commitment, and you just
Speaker 1: talk about the good parts getting married and how fun
Speaker 1: and exciting it is, and then I think it's not realistic.
Speaker 1: It's that's unrealistic expectations for people. I agree. I agree,
Speaker 1: And so I think for at least like talking personally,
Speaker 1: for me, it was more so about choosing Ashley every
Speaker 1: day and making sure that I was diving head first
Speaker 1: into the relationship, because I think I came to a
Speaker 1: point where I realized, unless I do that, unless I
Speaker 1: actively tell myself I'm all in this, I'm all in
Speaker 1: and putting everything I have into this relationship, that's when
Speaker 1: like things changed for me. Uh, because before then it
Speaker 1: was always like, wow, I just you know, could it work?
Speaker 1: Could it not work? I don't want to ruin the
Speaker 1: friend chip. You know, there's so many things that were alike.
Speaker 1: You know, there's so many aspects of our our life
Speaker 1: were so similar, but there are other aspects that were
Speaker 1: so different and would it work out? And I remember
Speaker 1: my dad one time told me, he's like, listen, if
Speaker 1: two people want to be together, they'll lead together. And
Speaker 1: we've even said we've even said, um, you know, if
Speaker 1: we could get we get divorced, it doesn't work, it
Speaker 1: would still be friends. We're talking about this a lot.
Speaker 1: Actually hopefully that doesn't No, no, and I don't see
Speaker 1: it happening, But I do have confidence that like even
Speaker 1: if this, even if like the that's the one in
Speaker 1: fourteen million futures where it doesn't work out, we would
Speaker 1: we'd still be friends. Force is a very specific number,
Speaker 1: buttons a million, six five to be exacting always looked
Speaker 1: into the future makes me that Black Mirror episode where
Speaker 1: they run through the simulations, So how many do we win? Uh,
Speaker 1: it's a marvel marvel cool, you wouldn't get it kind
Speaker 1: of goes without saying that your parents divorces didn't end amicably,
Speaker 1: Like they weren't able to kind of maintain a friendship afterwards,
Speaker 1: not at all. Right, Yeah, I know it's it's a
Speaker 1: it's annoying to say the least. Yeah. Well, so we
Speaker 1: talked about that a little bit on Wells' podcast with
Speaker 1: with Me, Jared and Derek a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: and about how much your like upbringing, childhood and your
Speaker 1: family or name it has kind of influenced the way
Speaker 1: that you see things now. And what's funny is listen
Speaker 1: to Allison speaks, she's like super scared and hesitant of
Speaker 1: jumping into a relationship that her parents had, Like she
Speaker 1: doesn't want to go through that same like pain that
Speaker 1: she felt as a kid. And you obviously were super
Speaker 1: in love with this girl forever and you knew from
Speaker 1: it pretty early on, like you wanted to marry. It's
Speaker 1: just so interesting to me that it can go either way, like,
Speaker 1: because it really can. It can go like my parents
Speaker 1: had a bad relationship, so I'm not gonna have a
Speaker 1: relationship with them, or my parents had a bad relationship,
Speaker 1: so I'm going to do my best to make sure
Speaker 1: it's the opposite of that. Um, I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: just a really interesting thing that I don't think that
Speaker 1: many of us take into account. And you can always
Speaker 1: say like, oh, I'm this, I'm the way that I
Speaker 1: am because this happened to me as a kid. But
Speaker 1: it's like we can ever absolutely no, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean exactly, I don't know, And you know, bad
Speaker 1: stuff is gonna happen to everybody, and it's just it's
Speaker 1: just a matter of what you do with what happens
Speaker 1: to you, you know, how do you use that to
Speaker 1: shape yourself asn't going into an adult? How you use
Speaker 1: that shape your relationships? I think it's all about perspective. Okay, Alison,
Speaker 1: can I ask you this? What's the day to day like?
Speaker 1: Married to Eastern Allen? He sends a really good roommate.
Speaker 1: He doesn't do a lot of chores around the house,
Speaker 1: but he will do them if I ask, and he's
Speaker 1: I don't know, he's always got a good attitude. We're
Speaker 1: innovating a hundred and fifteen year old house and there's
Speaker 1: just always something to be done, and he's willing to
Speaker 1: jump in and help the most of the time. That's
Speaker 1: all you really ask. Yeah effort. I mean that loves
Speaker 1: you unconditionally and is willing to jump in and offers
Speaker 1: remembers there I'll help, Alison. We'll thank you so much
Speaker 1: for joining us. We're so wonted to have you as
Speaker 1: guest on a podcast killing It. Yes, yeah, we high five.
Speaker 1: We know you can't say that, but we felt really
Speaker 1: good about this one. Um. Well, okay, well we'll talk
Speaker 1: to you later. Thanks again. Maybe we can have you
Speaker 1: go on at another time to even further love that.
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Speaker 1: I mean no, Well we should dedicate a whole podcast,
Speaker 1: but I've told Okay, so there for the listeners out there,
Speaker 1: Jared and East and are referencing my beautiful girlfriend just
Speaker 1: walking into the room, Blaine, why Kalin, beautiful Caalin over
Speaker 1: here can't just come down, sit down talking to a
Speaker 1: mic for a few minutes, Because let me ask you this,
Speaker 1: what do you expect her to do sit down and
Speaker 1: in a conversation? And what do I like to do?
Speaker 1: I like to live up to the things that are
Speaker 1: not expected of me. What did you say, low expectations,
Speaker 1: under promise over deliver? About that quote that actually kind
Speaker 1: of spiraled them to this big thing on Bachelor in
Speaker 1: Paradise this year, There were so many like memes made
Speaker 1: about me for saying under promise over deliver. I still
Speaker 1: have a really good standing relationship with my former employer,
Speaker 1: and I was like texting him one day and he
Speaker 1: like sent me that gift where it goes, what's me
Speaker 1: like smiling, like under promise, over deliver and he goes,
Speaker 1: you know, I told you this in your interview and
Speaker 1: now you're coining it as your own phrase. And I
Speaker 1: was like, I honestly, I honestly had no idea that
Speaker 1: you told me that, Like, I just it was something
Speaker 1: that's kind of yeah, but everything that we say has
Speaker 1: been something that has been repeated to us, I know.
Speaker 1: But it's just funny for someone to call me out
Speaker 1: and be like, you know that I said this, and
Speaker 1: like you're taking credit for the thing that I said,
Speaker 1: and like he's like joking obviously, Like he's like, we're
Speaker 1: like not best friends, but we're good friends. And he
Speaker 1: was just like he just thought it was really in
Speaker 1: my interview for the company. He goes, you know, I
Speaker 1: told you this, like as a company, what we do
Speaker 1: is under promise and over deliver. That's a good I
Speaker 1: don't know that is that a good company motto? Under promise,
Speaker 1: over deliver, over deliver parts great. The second half of
Speaker 1: it's great. I think if you can manage people's expectations
Speaker 1: and then shatter them through the roof what's wrong with that?
Speaker 1: I don't know, But what if we like promoted this podcast.
Speaker 1: I guess we kind of do. We're very self deprecating,
Speaker 1: being like, hey, listen, it's we sound like sometimes we're idiots,
Speaker 1: but you should listen to it and then hopefully they
Speaker 1: like it. Have you do you listen to podcasts? Other podcasts?
Speaker 1: I listened to Boston Sports Radio and the Sports Hub
Speaker 1: is a big radio station in Boston, and I listened
Speaker 1: to Zolac and Bertrand which is ten to two, and
Speaker 1: then Felgar Masses, the show that I listened to so
Speaker 1: much so that Ashley listens to it with me all
Speaker 1: the time, and she she knows Felgar Mass now not personally,
Speaker 1: but just like their their personalities, they're dynamics. So that's
Speaker 1: one I listened to most. I also listened to The
Speaker 1: Rewatchables a lot with Bill Simmons, So I like listen
Speaker 1: to Bill Simmons one with Malcolm Gladwell. Actually on my
Speaker 1: way to to Vegas a couple weeks ago, and it's
Speaker 1: good Bill Simmons. He's got a great voice for radio,
Speaker 1: great voice I'm gonna I'm gonna try to start being
Speaker 1: more like Bill Simmons on air. Do you he like
Speaker 1: takes pauses? There's a okay, so my like that and
Speaker 1: it's great almost build the acciation of what's going to
Speaker 1: be said next. My roommate, who actually was a guest
Speaker 1: on this podcast, Once upon a Time, Jackson, is one
Speaker 1: of my best friends. I can't remember. I was like
Speaker 1: making a presentation somewhere and he tells me that he
Speaker 1: took He like does voice overacting sometimes and he's like,
Speaker 1: gonna he's like does radio sometimes and he goes Dean
Speaker 1: before you go do this presentation. I just want to
Speaker 1: remind you there's power in the pause, because if you pause,
Speaker 1: people like are like, what's he gonna say? What's he
Speaker 1: gonna say? Oh, he said it. I call it a
Speaker 1: pregnant pause. Pregnant pause, okay, because then you give him
Speaker 1: birth to an idea. I like that. Do you listen
Speaker 1: to podcast I listened to a lot of podcasts, which
Speaker 1: my favorite one is called The dough Boys, and they
Speaker 1: review fast food restaurants. Okay, it's really funny. Um it's
Speaker 1: with some comedians. One of the guys was on that show.
Speaker 1: Love on Netflix. Um and I also listened to a
Speaker 1: show called podcast The Ride. It's about theme parks that
Speaker 1: my comedians are super funny. What is it about you
Speaker 1: and theme parks? Um as we talked about earlier. I'm
Speaker 1: a excuse me, I'm a I'm a child of divorce.
Speaker 1: I like consistency, I like knowing. I like escapism, I
Speaker 1: like uh, I like no one what's coming, and I
Speaker 1: like attention to detail and theme parks give me att
Speaker 1: of that. I like to go to Disneyland. I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm in another world. It's always uh, it's always,
Speaker 1: it's reliable, it's always there for me. Micky, He's always
Speaker 1: there waving at me, warm hug um. It's like one
Speaker 1: of the deepest things I think that's ever been said
Speaker 1: on this podcast about Disneyland. Absolutely, I love it. I've
Speaker 1: I've loved Zand since I was a little kid. And
Speaker 1: I know a lot of adults, especially adult men, the
Speaker 1: Disney under weirdos. But I I I love it. I
Speaker 1: go all the time. So you're preaching on the choir.
Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah, It's it's great. I don't go,
Speaker 1: you go, I feel like you go oh most weekly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: your self awareness on the whole thing is really impressive.
Speaker 1: It's actually quite impressive. You've put a lot of thought
Speaker 1: into that. I I have. I I did some I've
Speaker 1: done some personal work to try and try and open
Speaker 1: up like why I was so into it. I guess
Speaker 1: the root of my question for asking you guys, if
Speaker 1: you listen to podcasts, is do you take things from
Speaker 1: other podcasts that you try to incorporate it into this one? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Like what like I just said the way Bill Simmons pauses,
Speaker 1: but I don't do a good job of that. Be
Speaker 1: well the problem, Yeah, I just I want everybody to
Speaker 1: hear my opio. But I also think it's difficult within
Speaker 1: our podcast because we have three hosts a producer Easton
Speaker 1: who we want chiming in. I don't want you to
Speaker 1: ever think otherwise, but if you posithing with markone's gonna
Speaker 1: jump in. Exactly. It's hard because on our podcast, when
Speaker 1: we pause, it almost sounds like we don't have anything
Speaker 1: to say, which is not the case. But it's you know,
Speaker 1: like if it was just like to like I was
Speaker 1: sitting on a couch talking, I think there'd be a
Speaker 1: difference to that. It's easier for Simmons to do because
Speaker 1: it's just him and another exactly. And let's be honest,
Speaker 1: Bill has been doing this for years, like decades. Is
Speaker 1: not new to the game. Look imagine us. If you
Speaker 1: imagine Help I Suck a Dating? And it's two thousandth episode,
Speaker 1: we're gonna be pretty good at podcast. I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: throw this out there. I don't think it's crazy to
Speaker 1: think that we could get Bill Simmons on this podcast.
Speaker 1: Bill Simmons, if you're listening, let's say this right now.
Speaker 1: If you're listening to this podcast, thank you so much
Speaker 1: for listening to this podcast. Tweet Bill SA and say
Speaker 1: Bill Simmons, are you dating? Is he married? He's married?
Speaker 1: He's married, but I would love to get his perspective
Speaker 1: on relationships. Tweet Tweet Bill Simmons. If you're listening to
Speaker 1: this podcast, you have a cell phone in front of you,
Speaker 1: just tweet Bill Simmons and be like, Hey, Bill Simmons,
Speaker 1: have you ever heard of Help I Stuck at Dating?
Speaker 1: Would you like to be a guest? They want you,
Speaker 1: they respect you, they like you. We would love to
Speaker 1: speak with you on this podcast. I went to one
Speaker 1: of his book signings once he wrote the Book of Basketball.
Speaker 1: And I went to the signing and I brought with
Speaker 1: me Miley Cyrus's autobiography. I wanted him to sign that
Speaker 1: instead of his book. The only thing that I would
Speaker 1: ever expect from me. Her book is called Miles to Go.
Speaker 1: She wrote it when she was fifteen. I thought it
Speaker 1: was funny that a fifteen year old had written an autobiography.
Speaker 1: But you know, she's done a lot in her life.
Speaker 1: So I asked the guy, I'm like, hey, like Bill
Speaker 1: to sign this book instead. And the security goes like,
Speaker 1: he'll probably think that's funny. And he opens up and
Speaker 1: he's like, you know, you know, Miley was in front
Speaker 1: of me at you class ones and she was like
Speaker 1: doing this whole thing. She like stretched out and she
Speaker 1: like fired in for everybody. So funny. And I was
Speaker 1: also great Bill Simmons, like the greatest of all time.
Speaker 1: But I yeah, I got all excited. He signed, he signed,
Speaker 1: he signed my a go Miley, Bill Simmons, And uh,
Speaker 1: that's my sy. He's the best. He should come on
Speaker 1: this podcast. Absolutely, I'll be honest. I don't know what
Speaker 1: we talk about in terms of dating, but I respect him.
Speaker 1: He's been a long time he's a he's a Boston guy,
Speaker 1: like I bet he's got so many stories about past
Speaker 1: relationship or friends of his that have done just stupid stuff.
Speaker 1: He's that guy. He's kind of similar to you. I
Speaker 1: feel like where he's just got stories like Dean, you
Speaker 1: could I was talking to Derek about this last night.
Speaker 1: I feel like there there could be just a Dean
Speaker 1: podcast where it's you just telling stories like you on
Speaker 1: Wells podcast, where you were just like, yeah, I gotta
Speaker 1: I got arrested. Oh and then I forgot to tell
Speaker 1: you I also got tasted, and then I was when
Speaker 1: the orange jumped suit and then my my car crash
Speaker 1: and then we all flipped over, and then I had
Speaker 1: a warrnt out for my arrest. And it was like,
Speaker 1: if you haven't listened to that prat cast from a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks back, oh man, it's called I haven't
Speaker 1: even scratched the surface of the story. That's why I
Speaker 1: know you haven't, which is why you just need a pod.
Speaker 1: You just be like, Hey, story time with Dean. Here
Speaker 1: we go. I've Yeah. The thing about that is a
Speaker 1: lot of the stuff is like pretty incriminating. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's a statue limitations on certain things, right, well, and
Speaker 1: you've already been prosecuted for him. It's like you're telling
Speaker 1: a story, so like how much legitimacy is in a story?
Speaker 1: Like you can arrest someone for telling a story that
Speaker 1: ever hurt someone or I've stolen many many things in
Speaker 1: my life, but I never like there's never been like
Speaker 1: grand larceny or whatever you're taking a life or anything.
Speaker 1: Right next week on help, I suck at dating. But
Speaker 1: but I don't know all your stories that you've told.
Speaker 1: You've already got in trouble for No, But there's a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff. There's a lot of don't tell those stories. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but no, that's that's what I'm saying. Like I'm slowly
Speaker 1: getting more comfortable sharing those stories, even my wonderful girlfriend Kalin.
Speaker 1: There's a very specific story that I just recently began
Speaker 1: opening up about two a lot of my friends, um
Speaker 1: that I've actually considered sharing on this podcast many times.
Speaker 1: But it's like a very personal and intimate story. But
Speaker 1: it really has shaped me in so many more ways
Speaker 1: than I could ever imagine, Like it was so influential
Speaker 1: to my childhood that the fact that I can't tell
Speaker 1: that story or haven't told the story yet. It's like
Speaker 1: I am disappointed in myself because I feel like it
Speaker 1: was very influential on me as a kid, not only
Speaker 1: as a toddler, but also like all the way through
Speaker 1: my adolescens through middle school through high school. And I've
Speaker 1: like considered it so many times. I'm like, I should
Speaker 1: just tell the story. I just put it out there
Speaker 1: and I should just let people accept me or not
Speaker 1: accept me for what it is. But I haven't because
Speaker 1: I'm scared, and I think I'm working towards like building
Speaker 1: it the confidence, like say everything, you know. I would
Speaker 1: definitely tell it to a few people off air, tested out,
Speaker 1: you know, like a stand up comedian, Right they go out,
Speaker 1: they test and jokes somethings like something, and I'll tell
Speaker 1: you this I, like I said, I just started opening
Speaker 1: up about it, and I probably told like ten people. Um,
Speaker 1: I've told Kalin, I've told nine and my other closest
Speaker 1: friends and every single time, and they're always like, dude,
Speaker 1: why would you be scared to tell that story? Like
Speaker 1: it's not even bad, but also it's it's hard. I'm
Speaker 1: slowly opening up about it, and so eventually, like when
Speaker 1: I can open up about that story that I can
Speaker 1: open up about every other story that I've ever like
Speaker 1: it's been scared to share, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Do you find that you have a good memory? Um? No,
Speaker 1: really sooner called details very well, That's what might because
Speaker 1: I try to think of stories in my own life,
Speaker 1: and there's so many things that I forget about the story,
Speaker 1: or there are stories that I completely forget about that
Speaker 1: I revisit or someone reminds me of and I think
Speaker 1: about how much that impacted my life and how did
Speaker 1: I ever forget that. Sometimes feel like you you just
Speaker 1: have stories that you're like, yeah, this happened, and that happened,
Speaker 1: that that that that that. I think I remember significant
Speaker 1: events pretty well. But I'll listen back to this podcast
Speaker 1: just because like I want to, like I want to
Speaker 1: critique myself and be like what am I doing right?
Speaker 1: What am I doing wrong? And sometimes I'll listen to
Speaker 1: a story that I'm telling and I'll be like, well, dude,
Speaker 1: you left out a pretty major detail that was would
Speaker 1: have been a hilarious or like be pretty instrumental and
Speaker 1: like the storytelling aspect. So I think I have a
Speaker 1: good memory on significant events, But when I'm telling a story,
Speaker 1: I can kind of go off on tangents and like
Speaker 1: forget to share parts of the story that I really
Speaker 1: was excited to share. Um, So yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think that, yeah, that's that's kind of that situation.
Speaker 1: But one day I am going to have the confidence
Speaker 1: to share my my story. Huh? Is it a good story? Klin,
Speaker 1: there's a calm and I have a name for this story. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the story exactly the track you got Gna Rhea from
Speaker 1: a tractor and you call that the tracktor story. Calin
Speaker 1: thumbs up or thumbs down to whether you think Dean
Speaker 1: should share it on the podcast, Calin's giving a thumbs up.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying we should do it now, but Calin
Speaker 1: giving her sign of approval someone that really cares for
Speaker 1: you and wants to protect you, makes me think that
Speaker 1: it would be okay to share. I think it would
Speaker 1: be comfortable sharing the story at some point if it
Speaker 1: was just me in a room sharing this story. I
Speaker 1: don't want there to be any banter back and forth.
Speaker 1: I want to be able to just say the things
Speaker 1: that I want to say without anyone having to do that,
Speaker 1: without everyone having like comfort me or be like, hey,
Speaker 1: seeing it's okay, Like it's fine, feel free to continue
Speaker 1: to share. I want to be able to like control
Speaker 1: the storytelling ability of it all, and like not be
Speaker 1: interrupted and not have to deal with empathy, like, oh,
Speaker 1: don't give me your empathy. I don't want that, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? But one day, why don't? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess we just don't like empathy. I don't like feeling.
Speaker 1: It's actually funny that we that you bring that up
Speaker 1: because a speak off another sidebar. One of the reasons
Speaker 1: that I never talked about my mom dying was because
Speaker 1: I hated people feeling bad for me, and so before
Speaker 1: I went to The Bachelor, I never told my best
Speaker 1: friends never knew that I had a dead mom, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And then when I started talking
Speaker 1: about it, obviously they began to find out about it.
Speaker 1: But like one of the things, I just hated that
Speaker 1: people would treat me differently for some experience that happened
Speaker 1: to me a decade plus ago, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And this this story has no bearing on me and
Speaker 1: as an adult, this one that I was referring to earlier,
Speaker 1: has no bearing on me as an adult, but it
Speaker 1: was very instrumental in shaping me as a kid, and
Speaker 1: it's it's one of those things where like I shouldn't
Speaker 1: be ashamed to share it, but like you know, we'll
Speaker 1: get there eventually, we'll get there, baby steps. Well, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for tuning into an episode of Help
Speaker 1: I Second Dating. Thank you so much to Rosalind Sanchez
Speaker 1: and Eric Winter. Be sure to check out their all
Speaker 1: new I Heart Radio podcast. What's the name? He knows?
Speaker 1: What's the name or what? He said? He says, it's well,
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be like a play on he said,
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Speaker 1: Name is he said? Dan? He said? He said, ah uh?
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Speaker 1: big thank you to our very special guest, the guests
Speaker 1: that everybody at I Heart wanted to get and we
Speaker 1: got her school and help I Suck at Dating. Fist
Speaker 1: pumped to that one. The wonderful, the beautiful Allison, I
Speaker 1: almost said, Allison Easton, Allison Allen Easton, Allen's wife who
Speaker 1: you guys all know east and our producer, Um Dean.
Speaker 1: I can't thank you enough. As always, I love doing
Speaker 1: this with you, man, I love it. Every week just
Speaker 1: gets better and better. I know we should go an
Speaker 1: entire episode one time, holding hands and see if we
Speaker 1: could do it. Haven't we already done that? Not the
Speaker 1: entire episode, just my dreams. I guess I want to
Speaker 1: be a part of that right anyway. Thank you so
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Speaker 1: we'll all suck a little less. Follow help by Suck
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