Speaker 1: Nice little fake passers called touchdown. Want to start Deance
Speaker 1: Foreman with a crowd employ These Titans can chew up
Speaker 1: yardage in a blink. Rivers crawls, calash card Hyns and
Speaker 1: in for the touchdown, and Brissette will flow forward and
Speaker 1: get in for the touchdown for Jacoby Brissette is first
Speaker 1: touchdown of the season. That was Jacobe Brassette putting uh
Speaker 1: the cherry on top of the Sunday for the Indianapolis Colts,
Speaker 1: adding an insult to injury. You got an all time
Speaker 1: quarterback sneak Jacoby Brissette thirty four to seventeen. The Colts
Speaker 1: win in Nashville. I'm Greg Rosenthal, and tonight on the recap,
Speaker 1: I'm excited to be joined by Shield Capatia. Uh. You
Speaker 1: know from Birds with Friends. It's a crossover week here
Speaker 1: on the Around the NFL podcast, Shiel writes for The Athletic,
Speaker 1: longtime writer with the Spin dot Com. To Shiel and Uh,
Speaker 1: I'll start with this. Were you surprised that the Titans
Speaker 1: offense only uh score seventeen points in a prime time
Speaker 1: game here? I was surprised, but what really stood out
Speaker 1: is that they have such small margin for error. You know,
Speaker 1: I didn't watch like the first half and think, wow,
Speaker 1: the Titans are getting shut down here. But you just
Speaker 1: look at the other aspects of their team, which I'm
Speaker 1: sure we'll talk about here in a second, and it's
Speaker 1: like if the you know, the offense has been so efficient,
Speaker 1: they figured out the hard part building the efficient offense,
Speaker 1: even though it wasn't at its best tonight. But like
Speaker 1: other parts of the team, tonight looked like a complete disaster,
Speaker 1: and so you end up with the seventeen point loss. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I um, I picked the Colts in this game. Shields
Speaker 1: really smart. Everyone should check out his stuff. He's he
Speaker 1: wrote that that Carson wentz Um takedown piece. I would
Speaker 1: call it earlier this week. I'm just kidding. You just
Speaker 1: wrote about the decline. Uh. And you've always got like
Speaker 1: an analytical bet You're you're really smart analytical writer. And
Speaker 1: I noticed your record this year on picking against the
Speaker 1: spread is outrageously good, to the point where I was like,
Speaker 1: is this is this a misprint? But you know what,
Speaker 1: you got this one wrong? I did, and I got
Speaker 1: it right. If we started the season tonight, I want
Speaker 1: to know and your own one, do you feel bad
Speaker 1: that you didn't have as much faith in Philip Rivers
Speaker 1: as you maybe should have. Yeah, you know, I really
Speaker 1: I I know you do picks also, and so I
Speaker 1: really wanted to be on the winning end of this one,
Speaker 1: knowing I was coming up coming on this podcast tonight.
Speaker 1: You know, the Colts, it feels like to me, they
Speaker 1: they could. They need to be so efficient on offense,
Speaker 1: like they are not going to produce a ton of
Speaker 1: explosive plays. They had some tonight and they moved the ball.
Speaker 1: I mean they moved the ball inside the Tennessee thirty
Speaker 1: yard line on their first seven possessions, and so it
Speaker 1: was amazing. I couldn't believe it because you watched the
Speaker 1: Colts offensive times and it's just like everything so hard,
Speaker 1: nothing comes easy. And there were times tonight where you thought,
Speaker 1: all right, they got to convert another fourth and one
Speaker 1: they to convert another fourth than one. But give them credit,
Speaker 1: I thought they they schemed it up really well. There
Speaker 1: were wide open receivers I felt like all night long,
Speaker 1: and Rivers did a good job of getting the ball
Speaker 1: out quickly. Yeah, I I only picked them, not like
Speaker 1: that had any um, not that any was any great
Speaker 1: insight is because I feel good about their offense, you know,
Speaker 1: against a team that can't rush the pass, or against
Speaker 1: the team that can't get off the field on third downs.
Speaker 1: If you're able to do that, then I feel like
Speaker 1: the defense can show up, do its things, and the
Speaker 1: Colts should have enough to win. You you mentioned the
Speaker 1: four downs. They go three of five on four downs.
Speaker 1: There there was a goal line stand. There was another
Speaker 1: turnover on downs and field goal range, which usually will
Speaker 1: come back to haunt you. But I like that Reich
Speaker 1: uh State aggressive and they do have a big margin
Speaker 1: for error when they played good defenses. But there's there's
Speaker 1: like not that many good defenses, you know, there's a
Speaker 1: couple in the a f C. Unfortunately for them, they're
Speaker 1: probably gonna have to go through the Steelers of the
Speaker 1: Ravens at some point, and I think that's gonna be
Speaker 1: a problem. But Rivers didn't see a lot of open receivers.
Speaker 1: Doesn't throw it deep. Uh, we know, he can't sneak
Speaker 1: even one yard. He definitely can't like make plays, but
Speaker 1: he can throw and rhythm to these guys. And what
Speaker 1: I've been wanting to watch out of this team all
Speaker 1: year was just to find some juice and I'm always thinking,
Speaker 1: why don't they give Naheim Heinz more run because all
Speaker 1: the plays with the heim Hines are good, and like
Speaker 1: the plays with Jonathan Taylor are rarely good. And Taylor
Speaker 1: made a couple of good runs actually on third and one,
Speaker 1: fourth and one, so maybe he can be that short
Speaker 1: yardage guy. But him, says juice man, he has burst, uh,
Speaker 1: and he's a great receiver. He's kind of what you
Speaker 1: want in a running back. I know, maybe you're not
Speaker 1: gonna give it to him twenty five times a game,
Speaker 1: but maybe fifteen and that he's kind of the lead
Speaker 1: dog there. So you get a little juice from him,
Speaker 1: and then you get juice from Michael Pittman going over
Speaker 1: a hundred yards, who is really good yards after catch.
Speaker 1: That's who you need. With Philip Rivers his guys that
Speaker 1: are gonna make opposing defenses miss. And so if I'm
Speaker 1: a Colts fan, more of that is those two guys
Speaker 1: can give this offense a chance. Absolutely. You know, I
Speaker 1: thought the supporting cast has not been great all year.
Speaker 1: You kind of watch him and you're like, all right,
Speaker 1: who are Who's like keeping the Titans up at night
Speaker 1: when they're game planning for this game on the Colts offense,
Speaker 1: So you know the Jordan Wilkins, John and like these guys,
Speaker 1: they have a bunch of okay guys, but I agree
Speaker 1: with you they needed someone with some juice and Hines
Speaker 1: has been doing it for a few weeks with the
Speaker 1: cartwheels in the end zone, uh the other week and
Speaker 1: even today like that touchdown he had. It looked to
Speaker 1: me like the Titans had a defensive lineman in the backfield,
Speaker 1: but Hines like made him miss really quickly and then
Speaker 1: got into the end zone. I mean he was incredible.
Speaker 1: Seventy yards rushing, forty five, forty five receiving yards, and
Speaker 1: so I think he's definitely somebody who needs to get
Speaker 1: the ball for them a lot more. There's no doubt
Speaker 1: about it. He passes the eye test. You know. We
Speaker 1: we tape this podcast on video, you know, even though
Speaker 1: it's for audio, and so I can't speaking of the
Speaker 1: eye test. I can't help. But you know, I think
Speaker 1: seeing your you know, tay fully shaved dome that you
Speaker 1: have shield and think of the other you know, beautifully
Speaker 1: bald man that I that I usually doing Thursday nights
Speaker 1: with Chris Westling. He has loved the heem Heinz since
Speaker 1: day one his rookie year. Always thought that he deserved
Speaker 1: more uh touches. I think they've missed Marlon mac quite
Speaker 1: a bit this year, that he's actually a really good
Speaker 1: running back and has made that line look because there
Speaker 1: they haven't been like a great offensive line, at least
Speaker 1: in short yardage. They protect rivers pretty well, but they
Speaker 1: do have a great defensive line, and that that was
Speaker 1: the other thing I definitely want to hit on for
Speaker 1: the Colts. And they're gonna play the Titans again in
Speaker 1: two weeks. It's a really strange stretch of the schedule
Speaker 1: here where they both play really good teams. Next week
Speaker 1: the Colts of the Packers, and um, the Titans have
Speaker 1: the Ravens in Baltimore, and then they're playing each other again.
Speaker 1: So these it's it's just kind of a crazy three
Speaker 1: weeks where if one of these teams can sweep the other,
Speaker 1: that's huge. And I give the Colts a decent chance
Speaker 1: to sweep the Titans because because the next one will
Speaker 1: be on turf, and I think it's a big mismatch
Speaker 1: when the Titans have the ball and they're just so
Speaker 1: used to the play action passing game and in Tannehill
Speaker 1: getting back there and even though it didn't show up
Speaker 1: with a ton of sex, man, they get quick pressure,
Speaker 1: they get the Forrest Buckner and Autrey and Grover Stewart
Speaker 1: had a big game in Houston's just they just got
Speaker 1: a lot of guys. I think if people haven't watched
Speaker 1: the Cults a lot this year, to me, that that
Speaker 1: stands out for them and to me that's a mismatch
Speaker 1: right now against the Titans team who was pretty banged
Speaker 1: up up front. Yeah, I think Grover Stewart would definitely
Speaker 1: be the starting nose tackle on like the football hipster
Speaker 1: or like the tape frinder to him. I mean, no,
Speaker 1: they they love, they love a Grover Steward. He showed
Speaker 1: up with that huge hit today, uh down near the
Speaker 1: goal line. And you're right, I mean this was I'm
Speaker 1: kind of with you, you know, I've heard you talk
Speaker 1: about this this before. I'm the same way. I feel
Speaker 1: like there's a few great defenses that you have to
Speaker 1: really worry about, and then like defenses five through twenty,
Speaker 1: it just sort of depends on the day the matchup.
Speaker 1: Do they create some turnovers here and and the culture,
Speaker 1: you know, they're sort of making their case to be
Speaker 1: among those five defenses that really matter. And they definitely
Speaker 1: played well uh tonight. And it seems like with with Tannehill,
Speaker 1: you know, there were a couple of plays it feels
Speaker 1: like where this game could have swung early on that
Speaker 1: a J. Brown At catch down the left sideline. You
Speaker 1: felt like, art, if he makes that catch, maybe it's
Speaker 1: a different game. And then in the second half, John
Speaker 1: new Smith I think was wide open there on the
Speaker 1: right side and Tannehill overthrew him. But you know, any defense,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get some of those breaks throughout the course
Speaker 1: of the game. But overall, uh, they did a great job.
Speaker 1: I thought that Denico Autry play was like an underrated play.
Speaker 1: I think it was. It was a third and one,
Speaker 1: and in Tannehill was getting out there on a bootleg
Speaker 1: and he did a great job staying at home and
Speaker 1: kind of just getting enough of his ankle two sack
Speaker 1: him there, and then they got the Shanks punt after that. Yeah, weird,
Speaker 1: it was weird. They buned they bench the punter they
Speaker 1: brought in last week, which was Ryan Allen. Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Great for the Patriots, by the way, who had a
Speaker 1: big game. I didn't even know this, but some Titans
Speaker 1: fan was all in my mentions, going like why did
Speaker 1: they try and Allen after he came in an average
Speaker 1: fifty A fun It's like, I don't know, bro, but
Speaker 1: it did not work out because you mentioned it after
Speaker 1: that sac it was the seventeen yard shank and uh,
Speaker 1: it's it's one of the reasons why, um, you know
Speaker 1: analytics Twitter says, always go for the fourth down. Of course,
Speaker 1: it's because hopefully you get a defensive stop, you get
Speaker 1: great field position like the Cold State and they scored. Right.
Speaker 1: Wait now, I heard you say, like football hipster tape
Speaker 1: grinder Twitter, like would you wouldn't you be part of
Speaker 1: your You don't consider yourself part of that because you
Speaker 1: you're more like the numbers. But I feel like you
Speaker 1: might be a football hipster at least. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I did shave. I'm clean shaven here, I have a
Speaker 1: solid shirt on. It's not fun. I have no mustache.
Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll let the We'll let the listeners
Speaker 1: decide on. Yeah, that's that's pretty fair. Like your you're
Speaker 1: clean shape, you're kind of square, you're into the numbers.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe not? Um, I want to. I did want
Speaker 1: to hit on Rivers just before we're done. He he
Speaker 1: is now fifth all time in passing yards, which I
Speaker 1: don't put a lot into, but it's just kind of
Speaker 1: I find it interesting when you when you passed Dan
Speaker 1: Marino on that, Um, do you think he's playing? Do
Speaker 1: you think he has a chance this year? I picked
Speaker 1: them to win the Super Bowl just because I decided to,
Speaker 1: uh pick something I want to root for this year,
Speaker 1: and I didn't really believe in it. I don't believe
Speaker 1: in it now. Um, do you think there's like any
Speaker 1: scenario where Philip Rivers could be good enough to go
Speaker 1: on a run like to the Super Bowl? I don't
Speaker 1: see it. I don't see the Colts having that that ceiling.
Speaker 1: And I love Frank Reich. I I like this team.
Speaker 1: I picked them to win the division before the season,
Speaker 1: but I just I look at their offseason and you know,
Speaker 1: like the Jonathan Taylor pick or even Michael Pittman, I
Speaker 1: felt like they needed to add a receiver or or somebody.
Speaker 1: You know, we're talking about Nike Hines. You know it
Speaker 1: was a good good tonight. Look look at tonight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know, I don't I don't see like enough
Speaker 1: there where their offense is going to be good enough
Speaker 1: and explosive enough throughout the course of like an entire
Speaker 1: post season to keep pace with a Patrick Mahomes or
Speaker 1: even even a Steelers or a Ravens team. So I've
Speaker 1: got them in kind of like the next year. But
Speaker 1: you know, I have to remind myself that, like week ten,
Speaker 1: not everything's figured out, and so a month from now,
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like Rivers has probably played good
Speaker 1: games and three of the last four. Uh, they had
Speaker 1: a tough half last week against the Ravens, so maybe
Speaker 1: they can prove me wrong, But right now I would
Speaker 1: say they don't have that feeling. You know, you host
Speaker 1: an Eagles bogg here an Eagles homer. I guess I
Speaker 1: don't even know, But you're like Frank Reich, Um, you know,
Speaker 1: what do they look like in week ten before they
Speaker 1: go on the run. There is a long way. There's
Speaker 1: a long way to go. But but it is the
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, how about that? I think? So I
Speaker 1: heard a nice you know back and forth on Twitter
Speaker 1: tonight where Robert Mays was just going hard, uh doing
Speaker 1: the work of of the gods really for showing like
Speaker 1: how many top five passing attacks that Rivers has led
Speaker 1: over the here. I think he is, but it would
Speaker 1: be nice to see him win. And I think UH,
Speaker 1: I really think they have a chance to win this
Speaker 1: to vision by by sweeping to UH and will wrap
Speaker 1: up with this which is which is the small margin
Speaker 1: that you kind of started with with Titans, Like it's
Speaker 1: a tough recipe. I think Tannehill is great, and you're right.
Speaker 1: If Brown catches that pass, everyone is talking about that
Speaker 1: Tannehill throw as he's getting just absolutely hammered and Brown
Speaker 1: goes down the field. They've completed that past so many times.
Speaker 1: Was it actually was a play? Brown would say that
Speaker 1: he would make um but not great pass pro combined
Speaker 1: with bad defense UH and a team that wants to
Speaker 1: run the ball and pretty shaky special teams. It's like
Speaker 1: I I just have thought all year they've been a
Speaker 1: little shakier than the record indicates. If you throw away
Speaker 1: the Bills game really almost every week. Yeah, they're their defense.
Speaker 1: I mean I was looking at it. Philip Rivers got
Speaker 1: rid of the ball in like two point three seconds tonight. Nice.
Speaker 1: I feel like their pass rushing their coverage don't mix,
Speaker 1: you know, like there are times where you look at
Speaker 1: it and say they need more pass rush. But tonight
Speaker 1: I just felt like their coverage was leaving guys open
Speaker 1: time after time after time and leaving uh, leaving open
Speaker 1: guys for rivers to find and staffold goes down tonight
Speaker 1: they already lost Luan, So if that's a serious injury,
Speaker 1: their offensive line isn't gonna be good. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: what I was very nervous about, like an hour ago,
Speaker 1: just furiously googling Trevor Daniel. I'm like, of course that
Speaker 1: one time, I'm on that, that's the funner. And all
Speaker 1: I found out was what they said on the broadcast,
Speaker 1: which was that he was delivering packages for fed X.
Speaker 1: And I don't is this coincidence or not? Because the
Speaker 1: Arthur Smith the Titans o CE his dad is the
Speaker 1: founder of FED. Like, was Trevor Daniel doing a terrible
Speaker 1: job delivering those packages? And his Dad's like, you know, Arthur, like,
Speaker 1: you guys got to sign this guy, get him out
Speaker 1: of the company. I don't know what was going on there.
Speaker 1: Oh that that was such a good value add to
Speaker 1: the program. Here your buddy bo Wolf, who joined us
Speaker 1: on Tuesday's feeling the heat because yeah, that I didn't
Speaker 1: even think of that. That you just benched like a
Speaker 1: super Bowl winning hunter Ryan Allen coming off a good
Speaker 1: week just because your dad runs fed X and there's
Speaker 1: this great story. It almost feels like they were looking
Speaker 1: for free advertising and they got it. They got it
Speaker 1: here on this wine listen to podcast, which is probably
Speaker 1: more important to them than even getting it. During the
Speaker 1: saying that, I would say, in my eyes, uh, it
Speaker 1: would be amazing if that like costs the Titans a
Speaker 1: playoff spot. All Right, the f C South, it's fun.
Speaker 1: It's been Uh, it's been some down years in the
Speaker 1: FC South. This year not a bad one. Um, not
Speaker 1: a bad spot at all. By youth Siel. Thank you
Speaker 1: u for joining me tonight for the first time. Um,
Speaker 1: but I've known I've known you a long time and
Speaker 1: it's good. People should really check out Shields work at
Speaker 1: the Athletic Um being serious, one of the the best
Speaker 1: writers in the game. You know, you've you you were
Speaker 1: kind of a beat guy and now you've moved on
Speaker 1: past leaves like that and you're a national guy. Now.
Speaker 1: I'm just glad you said I had to edge over
Speaker 1: bull Wolf so well. I I didn't say that a
Speaker 1: totally I'll put I'll put word in your mouth. You
Speaker 1: had a good you had a good party. Shot. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Their podcast is Birds with Friends at the Athletic. Alright, um,
Speaker 1: Colts win. We will be back on Sunday with the
Speaker 1: flagship show. Uh. We are into week ten, double digits.
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving is almost here. We are making progress. Let's get
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