1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Hi folks, Happy Saturday. I hope you're enjoying your weekend. 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: I hope you're with your friends, your family, your loved one. 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: If you don't like anybody at all, hope you're by 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: yourself and you're having a good time. I just hope 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: you're well in general. This episode is from May fifteenth, 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:22,319 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, and it's called What's a Kintanira? Anyway, I 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: didn't know until we did this episode, so listen and 8 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: find out. 9 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 2: If you don't know, Welcome to stuff you should know. 10 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: A production of iHeartRadio. 11 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 3: Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, and 12 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 3: there's Charles w. Ch'bryant. There's Jerry, and this is a 13 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 3: very special day for us. 14 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: It's a very special day for Jerry because she's celebrating 15 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: her her very special day because today Jerry turns sweet fifteen. 16 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 3: Right, well, technically it's her chiple Kintigne. 17 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: No. 18 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: Jerry started producing the show when she was five. Oh yeah, 19 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: he was wonderin. 20 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 3: She's a child prodigy three, A lot of temper tantrums. Yeah, 21 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 3: but we got through that time, we did the Terrible fives. 22 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: And now she's just a pretty little lady in her pink, lacy, 23 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: satiny dress. 24 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that dress is a lot, even for a King 25 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 3: Signora dress. Jerry agreed. I can I go ahead and 26 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 3: say I don't do the R role very well, So 27 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say Keen Sognia okay instead of Kingsanna. 28 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that wasn't very good either, right. I used to 29 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: do a good R role because of German, but I 30 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: feel like I've lost it a bit. 31 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 3: And I guess it's actually an n roll King Signetta. 32 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 3: It's those good right, yeah, but if I try to 33 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 3: keep it up, it's it's I think it's gonna fatigue 34 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 3: everybody pretty quick. So Keen Sannira. 35 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: Well, and the last thing we want to be here 36 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: to jackass white dudes. Well, that's how we do it, 37 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: laying it on too thick, too forty something white dudes 38 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: are about to talk about. Keintignertis like, we know what 39 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: we're talking about. Well, we did the research, and I 40 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: think it's uh. I think it's good to cover stuff 41 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: like this. 42 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 3: I did too. I had very little understanding about this, 43 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 3: just from what I've seen on like MTV or whatever, 44 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 3: you know, did they have a show they have one 45 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 3: called like my sweet sixteen or whatever that I might 46 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 3: be conflating with. But I swear I've seen Keinton like 47 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 3: I knew some of this stuff somewhere. I don't know where, though, 48 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 3: somewhere just in the just being plugged into culture, I 49 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 3: knew it, I guess. Yeah. 50 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: Well, I lived in Los Angeles, as you know, and 51 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: they have obviously quite a Latin population, and I looked 52 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: up Hispanic and Latino. 53 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 3: I wanted to get it all right, good, good, let's 54 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 3: hear what you got. 55 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: Well, it says that they can generally be used interchangeably 56 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: these days. But I think Latino can like I think 57 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 1: Hispanic refers to whether or not you actually have Spanish 58 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: speaking roots. 59 00:02:59,280 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 3: Oh is that right? 60 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:05,119 Speaker 1: But Latino can be like Brazil and places in South 61 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: America as well, if I'm not mistaken. 62 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,119 Speaker 3: I heard once that Ronald Reagan was the person who 63 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 3: coined the term Hispanic, or at least popularized it. 64 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: Really Yeah, well it was that tattoo across his upper 65 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: back Hispanic for life. 66 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 3: For life, yep, with the number four. 67 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: But at any rate, you know, lived in LA and 68 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: there's you know, a large Mexican population, So I would 69 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: see kingtonettas going on all the time. When you're just 70 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: driving around on a weekend. I would see stuff and 71 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: I was like, wait a minute, it's not prom it's summer, 72 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: Like what's going on. 73 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 3: It's like Prom times ten. 74 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: And then some somebody hit me in the head and 75 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: they're like, you dummy, dumb white guy from the South. 76 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: It's a king signettas right, And so I was like, well, 77 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: you know what, one day, I'm gonna do a podcast 78 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: about that. 79 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 3: They said, what is a podcast to make up for 80 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: all this? You said, just watch that's right. So one 81 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 3: thing I saw was with Latin, you know, like with 82 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 3: Latino or Latina, there's that ingrained masculine. But something I 83 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 3: saw pop up in a couple of sites is they 84 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 3: would replace the O or the A with an X 85 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 3: just to make it the word gender neutral, like Latin X. 86 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I don't know how you pronounced it. I 87 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 3: didn't get that far, but I saw it imprinting a 88 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 3: couple of different sites, so where they were trying to 89 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 3: remove the gender from you know, Latino or Latina and 90 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 3: just make it gen gender neutral. Because there's there's a 91 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 3: I haven't seen it, but there's an HBO documentary about 92 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 3: KINGTONIERZ and one of them is for a trans girl. Okay, 93 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 3: would it be pronounced LATINX? Maybe? I mean I have 94 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 3: to see it written down. How is the X in 95 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 3: like wahaka? Isn't it like hot? Whaha? So maybe Latin woa? 96 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 3: I have no idea. That's where I'm going with here 97 00:04:59,000 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 3: we go. 98 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: I didn't want to be too dumb dumbs and we're 99 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: so far down dumb dumb lane. 100 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 3: It's not even funny. No, so let's try to get 101 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 3: this back on the rail, shall we. I think what 102 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 3: we just did was great because we explored some questions 103 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 3: we had. But now we can talk about everything we 104 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,239 Speaker 3: know about kingsing gartis. 105 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: Right, which is we've been dancing around this thing. This 106 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:26,559 Speaker 1: is the fifteenth birthday celebration for young ladies young women 107 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: in Mexico, Puerto Rico and Cuba and the United States 108 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: kind of all. 109 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 3: Over the world. This can take place. Yeah, and it 110 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 3: seems to be so it's a it's actually a very 111 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 3: traditional thing to where Catholic, like the catholicness of the 112 00:05:53,160 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 3: girl and her even pre Catholic origins fine together with 113 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 3: what I guess you would call like is a universal 114 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 3: coming of age celebration that also focuses on the individuality 115 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 3: and tastes of the girl. You put all those things together, 116 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 3: you have a King Signeta, which is a fifteenth birthday party, 117 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 3: which is a coming out party for a girl as 118 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 3: she transitions from girlhood into womanhood. It happens on this 119 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 3: day and they throw a huge celebration, and there's a 120 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 3: lot of really cool traditions that you're going to find 121 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 3: at like every King Singetta that have some a neat 122 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 3: origin story to them or a neat symbolism to them. 123 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: And also some great music, some delicious food, and family 124 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: coming together for an important day. 125 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 3: It's really great. Not just family, the whole community is 126 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 3: meant to, you know, like extended family, people in the 127 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 3: community that have had an impact on the girl's life, 128 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 3: like a teacher, people been for the expense of this. 129 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 3: It's like a real communal thing. Should we go back 130 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 3: in time? Okay, let's or did you want to go 131 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 3: to the future? No, No, we'll go back in time 132 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 3: all right. 133 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: So the origins of this they date back all the 134 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: way to the Aztec Indians. Obviously in the fourteen hundreds 135 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: and fifteen hundreds they were performing these festivals because girls 136 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: back then were marriage ready at the age of fifteen. 137 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 3: That's kind of what it symbolized, right, And like it 138 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 3: wasn't just the Aztecs, like around the world and cultures 139 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 3: around the world, like you would find some sort of 140 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 3: coming of age or rights of passage into womanhood. And yeah, 141 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 3: when you came out the other end, it was like 142 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 3: you were on the market then from that point on, 143 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: that's right. 144 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: And they had ceremonies, they had speeches talking about how 145 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: important it is to become a wise, upstanding member of 146 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,559 Speaker 1: society as a young woman. Then the Spanish come along. 147 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: Of course, they invade what we now call Mexico over 148 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: through the Aztecs, and that brought in a European influence 149 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: to this whole experience. And this is where things got 150 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: a little more, a little more like debutante. 151 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's actually I looked into this a little further, Chuck. 152 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:23,119 Speaker 3: And they can't say for certain where keinsignetaz came from, 153 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,559 Speaker 3: but they think the Aztecs. But their source comes from 154 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 3: a single nun working in Mexico who wrote an account 155 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 3: that had been given to a priest forty years earlier. Wow, 156 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 3: from another priest who had supposedly in the fifteen twenties 157 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 3: interviewed some Aztec high priests about their culture. So that's 158 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 3: where the whole idea that there was a rite of 159 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 3: passage at age fifteen comes from kind of shaky. And 160 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 3: then other people say, well, no, this is obviously a 161 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 3: Spanish colonial influence, like being presented at court. But the 162 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 3: idea that it's a rite of passage in womanhood is 163 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 3: so universal that it probably is a combination of the 164 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 3: two of them. No one can just say for certain though, 165 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 3: what the origin is specifically. 166 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and apparently until the nineteen sixties it was really 167 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: kind of an upper class thing. But then in the 168 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: nineteen sixties, as Latinos immigrated to the United States and 169 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: they became more part of American fabric, they really kind 170 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: of really kind of spread throughout the US and Latin 171 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 1: America as becoming across all socioeconomic classes. And we'll get 172 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: to this a little more later. But wonderfully, like you said, 173 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: in poorer communities, you see entire communities chipping in some 174 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: money many times, or the godmothers and godfathers of padernos 175 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: and madarinas like that. 176 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good to help pay for this stuff. 177 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: I saw this photographer did a really great photos series 178 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: of Quintinetas celebrations in poor neighborhoods in Mexico and photograph 179 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: these really beautiful photographs of these these young women in 180 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: their dresses sort of in the middle of a very 181 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: depressed neighborhood and just showing how important it was that 182 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: they still had this celebration. 183 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 3: Even though they it was a burden financially on their families. Right. Yeah, 184 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 3: I think Mexico City got together in two thousand and 185 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 3: seven and some of the businesses, some of the some 186 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 3: nonprofit groups held like a big mass kinsingerra and now 187 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 3: they do it every year for girls who wouldn't otherwise 188 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 3: be able to have one. Yeah. 189 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: I also read a New York Times article where there's 190 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: a lot of bias, like when it comes to things 191 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: like this and bar and bought Mitzvah's and debutante balls, 192 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: where it's very easy for someone to say, like, you know, 193 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: if you're poor living in Mexico City, why are you 194 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: wasting And that's an air quo quotes your money on 195 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: this celebration when your family doesn't have much money, and 196 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: they say, you know, you never hear this kind of 197 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: criticism for bar mitzvahs and bot mitzvahs or debutantes, regardless 198 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: of socioeconomic status. So it's just a very important, important 199 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: part of their culture that should be shouldn't be looked 200 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: down upon just because they may not have the kind 201 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: of money to throw a big one, you know what 202 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying. 203 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and yeah, I'm sure. One of the things, though, 204 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 3: you just kind of hit on the head is that 205 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 3: it's a it's a it's a part of latinix culture, 206 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 3: which is one reason why it's become so big in America. 207 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 3: It's a way of people of Latino heritage to say, 208 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 3: you know, this is my heritage too, and this is 209 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 3: how I'm going to come of age in America. But 210 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 3: because it's also in America and these are American born 211 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 3: girls of Latina heritage, they they have come over time 212 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 3: to kind of meld together with what Americans look at 213 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 3: and say, that's just one enormous sweet sixteen party, right, 214 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 3: But there's there's some details in there that you'll find 215 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 3: out at Kinsonnira that you won't at a sweet sixteen party, 216 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 3: and we'll talk about those right after this. Well done, 217 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 3: all right, Charles, So we are going to start the day. 218 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 3: It's a frantic day, It's a hectic day. From everything 219 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,599 Speaker 3: I understand from what I've read, this is a and 220 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 3: actually like a cool day for a girl, but also 221 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 3: very stressful. All right. 222 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: It's like a it's like a wedding or a prom 223 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: or anything where there's a lot of pressure on this one, 224 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: you know, six hour experience. 225 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 3: But think about this. With a wedding, you've got your 226 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 3: s O to plan the wedding with. With prom, you've 227 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 3: got a handful of other girls to plan. You know 228 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 3: what you're doing with prom, and plus proms already being 229 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 3: planned for you by your school or whatever. This is 230 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 3: like your day, and part of your responsibility is the 231 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 3: King Signeta, which by the way, King Signeta literally translates 232 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 3: to the girl who is fifteen. Yeah, so this is 233 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 3: technically your Fiesta de kin Signetta or something like that. Right. 234 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 3: Part of your responsibility as King Signetta is to show 235 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 3: that you can take part in this planning. On the 236 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 3: one hand, it's to allow it to reflect your personality 237 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 3: and your taste, so you're the one who needs to 238 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 3: choose all this stuff. But it also shows that you 239 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 3: can be a grown up too, and undertake months of 240 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 3: planning leading up to this thing and basically pull it off. Correct, 241 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 3: you are right, Okay, So the whole thing starts with 242 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 3: a trip to church, which is not right, which is 243 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 3: not what you're going to find a normal American like 244 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 3: say sweet sixteen party. 245 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: No, And it depends on the church where you're going 246 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: to have and you know, sometimes the celebration also occurs 247 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: at the church. Sometimes that occurs at a different spot, 248 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: kind of like a wedding, you know, sometimes you'll have 249 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: the reception somewhere else. 250 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 3: Right, that's not how it started, which we'll talk about 251 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 3: that in a minute, but go ahead. 252 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: But it depends on the church where you're a member 253 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: or where you're having this initial ceremony. But the girl 254 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: before this all happens for weeks ahead of time, may 255 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: actually be required to attend classes in advance of this, 256 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: so they're prepared. 257 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 3: They know what to expect, right they well, yeah, that's 258 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 3: about it, as far as the weeks ahead part, well 259 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 3: as far as the church and all the planning, yeah, 260 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 3: of course. Right. So on the day they arrive at 261 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 3: the church, and you were saying, like, you know, now 262 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 3: it's kind of evolved to where you have like like 263 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 3: a wedding, you have the ceremony of the church and 264 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 3: then the event elsewhere, well you can, right, and that's 265 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 3: becoming more and more the way. But one of the 266 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 3: reasons that is becoming the way is because in nineteen 267 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 3: ninety in Los Angeles, the Los Angeles Archdiocese issued like 268 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 3: a set of guidelines that basically put the kibosh on 269 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 3: this idea of the kingsonira as a big lavish affair, 270 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 3: and it really dampened this burgeoning I guess industry or 271 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 3: tradition or whatever. It put a damper on it for 272 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 3: a little while because families didn't want to go against 273 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 3: the Church, so they kind of toned down the kings andiras. 274 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 3: But the reason the Church was doing this is because 275 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 3: there were too many kingsoniras, not enough Spanish speaking priests. 276 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 3: And then also the Catholic Church has always had an 277 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 3: awkward position in this tradition. It's not a Catholic tradition. 278 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 3: It's a cultural tradition by a group of people who 279 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 3: are predominantly Catholic and involve the Church as part of 280 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 3: this tradition. But this tradition, if anything, is a syncretized tradition, 281 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 3: remember when we were in Guatemala. The melding of Catholic 282 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 3: beliefs and pagan pre colonial beliefs indigenous beliefs is syncretism. 283 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 3: This is an example of that. There's like as tech 284 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 3: rituals supposedly mixed with this. The whole thing starts at 285 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 3: a Catholic church with a mass, so the church has 286 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 3: kind of had alternately hands on and hands off view 287 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 3: of this whole thing, and in nineteen ninety the almost 288 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 3: put a complete damper on it. But since then it's 289 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 3: just kind of said, Okay, we'll just start off at 290 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 3: the church and we'll have the party afterward elsewhere. Yeah. 291 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: And I've also seen that a lot of churches now 292 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: are straying away from me is because they feel like 293 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: there's just a lot of disrespectful behavior, like you know, 294 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 1: people partying on the pews and taking pictures with their 295 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: phone and texting, and. 296 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 3: Like they kind of forget that they're in a church, right, 297 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 3: which I mean if you step back and think about it, 298 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:17,719 Speaker 3: having a girl's fifteen year birthday party in an actual church, Yeah, 299 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 3: that's a terrible idea to begin with, probably about yes, 300 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 3: so it makes sense to do this kind of solemn 301 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 3: ceremony at the church and then party elsewhere, which I 302 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 3: think is pretty much par for the course these days. 303 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: All right, so before the mass takes place, this young 304 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 1: woman has and Kristen Conger, remember Kristen. 305 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 3: Of course, what's the name of their podcast, Unladylike, unlady Like? 306 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: That's right, yeah, Kristen Caroline formerly of stuff Mom never 307 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 1: told you Now with Unladylike, she wrote this article and 308 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: she said that custom calls for fourteen damas or maiden attendance, 309 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: to represent the fourteen years of her life up into 310 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: that point. I saw elsewhere seven. That's what I saw too, 311 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: to be paired with seven young men. You want to 312 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: pronounce that shambalons. 313 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how I took it, shambalans, but chambalon. 314 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: I read in another place. I was like, well, wait 315 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: a minute, which is it? And it apparently can be 316 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: seven to fifteen. So yeah, depending on I guess how 317 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: many really close friends you have, kind of like picking 318 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: out your bridesmaids and groomsmen. 319 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I saw plenty of videos of kinsigners where 320 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 3: like there were three girls, there's a four. Yeah, but 321 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 3: I think under strict tradition of the King Signetta. You 322 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 3: would have fourteen girls and fifteen dudes. You got fourteen damas, 323 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 3: fifteen Chambalains and then one I got it, and then 324 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 3: one Chambalaine day on air, which I totally missed up. 325 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 3: But it's it's basically the escort of honor. Who is 326 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 3: the King Signetta's date? That's right. 327 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: And again I'm sure that there's some leeway. The Kingsiannetta 328 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: cops aren't gonna come by because you don't have enough 329 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: friends helping you. They have larger fish to fry on 330 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: Kingsannetta Day. 331 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 3: Right, although the whoever is helping you plan this, it 332 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 3: would probably love it if you had fourteen guys and 333 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 3: fourteen girls because they all have to be outfitted. Oh yeah, 334 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 3: in exactly what you want them to wear, because it's 335 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 3: your party. That's right. 336 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: And I don't think we mentioned, but the dress is 337 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: a very big part of the celebration. Traditionally it's either 338 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: pink or white, very satane. I mean it looks kind 339 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: of like a prom dress, a big frilly, floor length gown. 340 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 3: But that also is eight feet wide, yeah, exactly at 341 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 3: the waist like out it's extraordinary. It's like a princess dress. Yeah, 342 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 3: like I want to Kenzannira, Well we can throw you on, buddy, Okay, 343 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 3: don't do that. Sure you don't get all pretty for 344 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 3: the camera. I definitely would find a nice stress, all right. 345 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: So the first stop, though, like you said, is the church, 346 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: and this is where a lot of the ceremony takes place. 347 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: They receive a blessing from a priest, the young woman 348 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: commits herself to her, protecting her virginity and her spiritual devotion, 349 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: and then they leave a bouquet of flowers near the 350 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: Virgin Mary statue. And then traditionally they would give away 351 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 1: a porcelain doll, one of their childhood dolls, or again, 352 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: tradition varies. These days, it might be a step teddy 353 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: bear or something else that just meant something to the girl. 354 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 3: One thing I saw was a ki Signetta barbie. 355 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, all right, Well they'll pass that along to 356 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: a younger sister or another relative, another female relative, to 357 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: basically say again symbolic of I'm entering young adulthood and 358 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: I'm passing on this silly barbie to you. 359 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 3: What's the name of that the ultima Muneka? Oh, I 360 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 3: don't know. I didn't see that ultima muneka. It means 361 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 3: the last doll, and it shows that she's leaving girlhood behind. 362 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 3: And you can guess which which one of those, the 363 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 3: ceramic doll or the old toy or the brand new 364 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 3: barbie the younger female relative wants these days. Sure, yeah, yeah, 365 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 3: So so that may or may not happen at the church. 366 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,719 Speaker 3: The thing that seems to be what definitely happens at 367 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 3: the church is the girl is presented with a rosary, 368 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 3: a prayer book or a Bible and leaves flowers at 369 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 3: the altar and or the statue of the Virgin Mary, 370 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 3: and then receives a blessing. Right, so let's say that 371 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 3: all that happened at the church and the girl has 372 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 3: been blessed. Sometimes it's part of a regular mass, like 373 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 3: she may stand up and come up to the altar 374 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 3: and get a special blessing. If her parents are pulling 375 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 3: all the right strings, maybe she can get her own 376 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 3: mass for it. But she may also be sharing that 377 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 3: mask with other quin sigietas. There's a bunch of different 378 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 3: ways to do it. But once the mass is done, 379 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 3: once she said like I am committing myself to the 380 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 3: Catholic Church and I'm a very spiritual girl, and thanks 381 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 3: for the blessing. I'm out e five thousand. She's heading 382 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 3: off to the party. That's right. Get that just like 383 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:20,479 Speaker 3: a good wedding. 384 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: Get that part over with quickly so you can get 385 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: your party on right. 386 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 3: So whilst she's getting into the limo, we'll take another break. Okay, 387 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 3: all right, look at her trying to stuff that dressing. 388 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 3: Then okay, chuck. So she has gotten in the limo, 389 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 3: she's driven off, and now they're going to the venue, 390 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 3: which is basically anywhere that you would also hold like 391 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 3: a wedding reception, you could hold a King Signira party. 392 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it could be. It really depends on 393 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: the budget of the family involved. They could rent out 394 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: a large hall, or they could it could be in 395 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: the backyard of their own home or at a friend's house. 396 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. And again this is not just on the parents shoulders. 397 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 3: It's very customary and very traditional for the girl to 398 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 3: approach family members. Yeah, members of the business community, just 399 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 3: anybody she can think of to say, hey, costs are 400 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 3: really adding up and can you, you know, chip in 401 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 3: a little bit. And like the King Signira will be 402 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 3: sponsored by multiple people besides just her parents. Yeah, and 403 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 3: I did. 404 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: I also read in that article on that really great 405 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: photo spread the guy did he interviewed the family members 406 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: and one of the families he said how long have 407 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: you you know, they didn't have much money, and he said, 408 00:23:58,600 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: how long have you been saving for this? 409 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 3: And they said for fifteen years? Oh. 410 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: Man, Like they started socking away money every year because 411 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: they knew this was coming. That it is so great 412 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 1: and it was important. It was very sweet story. 413 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think the aspect that, you know, the community 414 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 3: chips in and also comes to like witness this girl's 415 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 3: transition to adulthood. I just really appreciate that. I think 416 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 3: it's really cool that that's part of it, you know, 417 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 3: it makes it rather than it's just the parents are 418 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 3: footing the bill for everything. I just think that's cool. Yeah. 419 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: Well, and it's a culture where family and community is 420 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: such a important revered thing and it's something I'm envious of, 421 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: you know. 422 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. So when the girl gets there, the 423 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 3: first thing that's going to happen is the music's going 424 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 3: to be starting, and her court's going to come in 425 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 3: and get introduced. Those are the Damas and the Shamblains. 426 00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 3: Why is that not sounding right because it sounds French, right, Okay, 427 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 3: So that's but am I am I pronouncing it French? 428 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: I don't know that's what I'm saying it. It's I'm 429 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 1: not sure. I don't know the origins of that word. 430 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 3: Okay. So those two her court, they're going to come 431 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 3: in one by one and get announced virtually, just like 432 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 3: a wedding when the bride and grooms show up. The 433 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:22,959 Speaker 3: grooms maids, no, the bride grooms maids, the grooms men's 434 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 3: and the bride'smaids. Yes, come on, man, hanging in there. 435 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 3: They get introduced, you know, one by one as they're 436 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 3: coming in, and then finally the shambala and the honorary 437 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 3: escort is introduced. And then you finally have the Kinti 438 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 3: era come in and the music changes and she's like 439 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 3: you like raising the roof, you know, and the parties 440 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 3: just everyone erupts into just craziness from that moment on. 441 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, it could be a DJ. It could 442 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: be a mariachi band, It could be a rock band. 443 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 3: It could be a DJ playing Mary. 444 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,959 Speaker 1: It could be it could be like with my wedding, 445 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: I had an iPod loaded up with my mix and 446 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 1: just hit play nice. 447 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 3: So this is probably a DJ with a light system 448 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 3: and a dance floor. All the videos I saw are 449 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 3: very much like that. Yeah, So the court's been introduced, 450 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 3: and then one of the first things that happens is 451 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 3: the girl is presented with a crown tiara. She's presented 452 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 3: with a scepter, so for the killing, right for the bashing, Yeah, 453 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 3: that comes later, and then right the ritual, the ritual 454 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 3: killing of the chipmunk. And she's seated, probably on a 455 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 3: throne of some sort or a central chair, maybe one 456 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 3: of those like Wicker remember the Wicker like seventies chair. Yeah, 457 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 3: like flared out and up. It looked kind of like, yeah, 458 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 3: maybe she's sitting on one of those. But she's she's 459 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 3: basically the center of attention right then, and something kind 460 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 3: of cool happens. The shoe shoe was wearing that she 461 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 3: came in with flat soled sandals or slippers or something 462 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 3: like that. Her dad comes over and takes those off, 463 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 3: and then he puts on high heels and snaps his fingers, 464 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 3: twirls and goes she's a woman. 465 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 1: Yes, And I bet you anything, this young lady has 466 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: practiced walking in those before, right, I don't think she 467 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: would want her first experience in high heels to be 468 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: in that dress on the big day. This is just 469 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: logical chuck talking. 470 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 3: Although it would be fun to watch, No, come on, 471 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 3: you don't think it would be. 472 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 1: No one wants to see what do they? Kristen said, 473 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: they call her Keen's Girls. Sometimes, Yeah, some one wants 474 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: to see a Keen skirl fall over. 475 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 3: That's true except you. But you got laughed at while 476 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 3: you did the backstroke, so I get it. Yeah, mocked. 477 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: They may also get gifts, but not always a lot 478 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: of times there are symbolic gifts. A lot of times 479 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: other people will bring gifts, but from the parents. The 480 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: festival and ceremony itself is the gift. But sometimes if 481 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: the parents have some dough and a big budget, they 482 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: may get what's called regalo soorpressa, which is a surprise 483 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: gift on top of everything else. And this of course 484 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: is including like you mentioned, the prayer book and the 485 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 1: Rosary and the Bible and stuff like that. 486 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 3: Right, and those were probably given to her at the 487 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 3: church before. I'm thinking that, depending on the position of 488 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 3: her parents socioeconomically, the girls probably getting other presents too. Yeah, 489 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 3: but yes, supposedly just the kin Senira party is like 490 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 3: this is plenty, don't you think. 491 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, But I think the gifts too also are always 492 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: represent that transition into adulthood. So she's not getting the 493 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: dolls anymore. She gets maybe some jewelry or ear rings 494 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. 495 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 3: Right, and deliver her into womanhood. And then guests are 496 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 3: also giving gifts as well, and your party favors the 497 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 3: way that the whole thing's set up, even though the 498 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 3: community like might have people that chip in or family 499 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 3: members or whatever. The parents are saying like come help 500 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 3: celebrate our daughter's transition into womanhood. Right, So the party 501 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 3: is men is like a gift for the guests, right, 502 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,719 Speaker 3: and so the thing is kind of meant to be 503 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 3: like come and get your eat on and your drink 504 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 3: on and just have a lot of fun. The thing 505 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 3: is part of that welcomeness and that inclusiveness and that 506 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 3: you know, please come and be a part of this. 507 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 3: That backfired really hard for this one couple. Have you 508 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 3: heard about Ruby Obara Garcia? No? Oh my, so Ruby 509 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 3: Abara Garcia turned fifteen on December twenty sixth, nineteen year 510 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 3: twoenty sixteen. Okay, okay, just like a year or so ago, 511 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 3: and she is from La Joya, which is in San Luis, Potosi, Mexico, 512 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 3: and it's a little tiny town two hundred, and her 513 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 3: parents decided to get with the times and make like 514 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 3: a YouTube invitation, a video invitation to come to Ruby's Kinsenera. 515 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 3: But they posted on on YouTube and they didn't put 516 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 3: any privacy settings on and it went viral and twenty 517 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 3: thousand people from around the world showed up to Ruby's 518 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 3: Kinsigneta party in this little town of two hundred. That's 519 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 3: kind of great, though, right, it was great on the 520 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 3: one hand, but if you look at the photos from it, 521 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 3: she was very much overwhelming the entire time. Was not 522 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 3: expecting it. Apparently, like like on Facebook, like over a 523 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 3: million people said they were coming, but even still twenty thousand, 524 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 3: and if you look, there's like all these stands set up, 525 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 3: and like people from all over the country and the 526 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 3: world shipped in to like fee everybody and make sure 527 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 3: everybody had teas or whatever. So the parents said, okay, 528 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 3: we're we're doing this, and they they did it. They 529 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,959 Speaker 3: they stepped up and met there there there, or they 530 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 3: kept their welcome to everybody. I guess there is a 531 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 3: way to put it. That's kind of great. 532 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: But I can definitely see on the day that the 533 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: girl might have been overwhelmed. But I bet she also 534 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: in retrospect, is like, hey, I've got one cool story 535 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: for my life now. 536 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, she's got a big old story and she 537 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 3: got a Chevy Vault. 538 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: Oh serious, Yeah, I couldn't tell. I literally couldn't tell 539 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: if you were just being joky, Josh. 540 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 3: There, No, that was I didn't even need to be 541 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 3: that time. So Chevy got involved, of course. I think 542 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 3: her parents gave her that. Oh I figured Chevy was like, hey, no, 543 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 3: I think that was I think that was her regalo, 544 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 3: her surprise gift. Yes. Wow. And speaking of so praises, 545 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 3: the uh that was uman Spanish name, by the way, 546 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 3: But speaking of so Praises, there's also Chuck. Go on 547 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 3: to YouTube and type in bay A s Praisa b 548 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 3: A I l E sor Praiser and just start watching 549 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 3: these videos because the bay A sor Praisa is one 550 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 3: of the hallmarks of the Kings and Era party and 551 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 3: they are about as adorable and embarrassing as you can imagine. 552 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 3: What does that mean though? What is it? Oh? It's 553 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 3: a surprise dance. So it's like for months ahead of time, 554 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 3: the King Signia and her court will practice a dance 555 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 3: that they make up or that they hire like a choreographer, 556 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 3: and they will like perform this dance for the guests. 557 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 3: It's a surprise dance. It's like part of the Kingsenira 558 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 3: and they're they're very cute to watch, especially they do, 559 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 3: but they also are really they're very earnest about it too, 560 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 3: like they like they practice this dance and they they're 561 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 3: doing it and it's it's very cute. You can also 562 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 3: hire am Balayne's professional ones. They're all like dancers by trade, 563 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 3: so they'll like really knock your socks off of your guests. 564 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 3: But it's, you know, it's lacking that heart of something 565 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 3: you and your friends came up with yourself. 566 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: Or you could if you had a lot of dough, 567 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: you could hire a choreographer like Paula Abdul or something. 568 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, like her, she's. 569 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: Still choreographing, right, yeah, choreographing, choreographing. 570 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 3: Something bad wrong with us today? I know, man, you 571 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 3: got anything else I do? This is a little suppressive 572 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 3: for you. 573 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: My friend there was a father in Texas a couple 574 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: of years ago that spent six million dollars on his 575 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: fifteen year old daughter. Oh my, he uh, what's his 576 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: name here? He's an attorney named Thomas J. Henry of 577 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: San Antonio. They're very kind of well known family. His 578 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: daughter Maya is big on Instagram and social media, and 579 00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: she's big into activism. So she's like, you know, she's 580 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: not just your ordinary teen. 581 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 3: Although that is kind of ordinary these days, thankfully. 582 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 1: To be a well known teen activist, well to be active, sure. 583 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 1: But at her Kintanetta, she had Nick Jonas perform, Pitbull performed. 584 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,879 Speaker 3: Sure. Let me see what else here? 585 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 1: A fifty five thousand square foot space. 586 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 3: That they built. 587 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: I don't think they built it from scratch, but it 588 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: does say that it was built purpose built venue. 589 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 3: How many guests? Six hundred guests? 590 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: Man a thirty foot tall cherry trees, a thirty foot 591 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 1: tall cherry cheese in full blossom, walls of roses, a 592 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,720 Speaker 1: garden room, the ballroom with butterflies suspended from the ceiling. 593 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: She wore a Rolando Santana dress, which means nothing to 594 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: me either, but I assume that means it's something. She 595 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: had her makeup done by Patrick Ta who does the Kardashians. 596 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: Her photographer was Michelle Obamas photographer, and Thomas Henry and 597 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: his wife whose name is Azteca, beautiful name. They hired 598 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: a New York social event planner named David Monne. He 599 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: had one hundred and fifty person team to plan out 600 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: this party and finally they arrived by police escort in 601 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: nine rolls Royces. 602 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 3: Well, because why not, why not get the police involved. 603 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,320 Speaker 1: And not to feel too bad for her little brother 604 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: or I guess maybe it was a big brother. He 605 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 1: spent four million dollars on that kid's eighteenth birthday. I 606 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: believe case a praisa, So they have they dropped ten 607 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 1: million bucks on a couple of parties for their kids. 608 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 3: Man, and those the girls in Mexico City are happy 609 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 3: to be part of the city wide annual one. 610 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 611 00:35:54,080 --> 00:36:00,280 Speaker 3: I wonder what Pitbull got paid for that? A mill Maybe? 612 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 3: I bet Nick Jonas got more than Pipple, did you think? Yeah? 613 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: And of course she had her pictures with both of them, and. 614 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 3: Well I'm sure that was part of it. It's like 615 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 3: uh yeah, man, all right, well that is something. What's 616 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 3: her name? Maya? Yeah? Wait, Henry, Oh, I got to 617 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 3: look that up. If you want to know more about 618 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 3: Kinsgieta as well, just show up to one uninvited. Yeah, 619 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 3: see how that goes. You know what, you'd probably be 620 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 3: welcomed probably chuck probably, And since I said probably a 621 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 3: couple of times, it's time for listener mail. 622 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,399 Speaker 1: Hey guys, A long time listener, A card carrying member 623 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: of the Stuff you should know Army. I've always want 624 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: to write in but just hadn't found the right topic 625 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 1: until the It Stranger Things script retooling debate those during emojis. 626 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: Stephen King is by far my favorite author, and it 627 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 1: is my absolute favorite of his novels. Highly recommend. Also 628 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: a huge Stranger Things fan. Though I have no media experience, 629 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: I do have an MBA and know a thing or 630 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: two about marketing. But it's worth I sided with Josh, 631 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 1: with the studio definitely retooling the script to create synergies 632 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: between It and Stranger Things. Aside from casting the Stranger 633 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: Things kid, which to me is a smoking gun, they 634 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: changed the setting in the film to take place in 635 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: the eighties. 636 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 3: Like Stranger Things. 637 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 1: The novel the story follows the main characters is in 638 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,800 Speaker 1: the fifties, and then again as adults in the eighties. 639 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 1: There are elements of the story that didn't translate as 640 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 1: well into the eighties in my opinion, but it was 641 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: a small price to pay in order to captivate that 642 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 1: Stranger Things audience. Just one guy's opinion, but I'd like 643 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 1: to say one guy's informed opinion. 644 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:37,479 Speaker 3: Sorry, Chuck, for what it's worth. 645 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 1: As a movie crush or as a movie buff, I 646 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: always catch movie crush. Keep it up, Mike Sanders and Mike. 647 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: I did a very simple Google search and found that 648 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 1: Stranger Things was released in July twenty sixteen, and principal 649 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 1: photography of it began about a week before that. Okay, 650 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,839 Speaker 1: so that's therefore rendering that impossible. 651 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 3: Here's the thing. Movies have been known to change horses 652 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 3: mid stream, right. I don't think that that settles it 653 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:12,840 Speaker 3: if you ask me, so. 654 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: You think they shot a bunch of the movie in 655 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,359 Speaker 1: the nineteen fifties and said, wait a minute, this TV 656 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: show we're here doing. 657 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, no, let's go make it the eighties. 658 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 2: No. 659 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 1: I don't think let's recast this kid that we've already cast. 660 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 3: I think I think that they're I think that they 661 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 3: did retool I do. I don't think. Yeah, I don't 662 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 3: think they did. They. I don't think they were shooting 663 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 3: in the fifties. I think they were probably shooting in 664 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 3: the eighties. I think they really. My whole point has 665 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 3: been that they played up the same things that Stranger 666 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 3: Things was known for and that you wouldn't find in 667 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 3: in the book it that, and that they plumped up 668 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 3: that stuff because of Stranger Things. That's my assertion. 669 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: So as they are shooting the film it they're doing rewrites. 670 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: The rewrites, yes, because they're like, man, we gotta walk 671 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 1: into this TV show. 672 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 3: Yes. And you can also do that in the editing 673 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 3: booth as you know as well, which would have happened 674 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 3: long after Stranger Things was already a smash cultural phenomenon. 675 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 3: All right. That's I don't think it's settled, man, Okay, 676 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 3: And it never will be all right until the editor 677 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 3: tells me himself or herself that I'm just dead wrong. 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