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Speaker 1: Drew needs to do what is necessary to get Trey

431
00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,080
Speaker 1: onto Middleton and then be like get to the post.

432
00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,080
Speaker 1: Shooters on the opposite end, go to work, you know,

433
00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 1: like some of that needs to be set up for him.

434
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:35,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm I'm, I'm, I'm super into this series.

435
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 1: I think it's super interesting, super uh interesting chess match

436
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,200
Speaker 1: type of series because both teams have distinct advantages that

437
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,199
Speaker 1: can go to um, you know, but Trey Young is

438
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,280
Speaker 1: so much better and pick and roll than anybody Milwaukee has.

439
00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,879
Speaker 1: That's an advantage and we you know, we've discussed it

440
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 1: at length, but I I personally am leaning Milwaukee in

441
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,880
Speaker 1: six because I think it's gonna degrade into a ton

442
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,640
Speaker 1: of switching and get really physical as a series goes on.

443
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,680
Speaker 1: And I think that, uh, I think that Milwaukee is

444
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 1: gonna have a little bit better time generating better quality

445
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 1: shots over over the course of the series. Yeah, me too.

446
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 1: I probably have Milwaukee probably in seven. I still think

447
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 1: it's just a really tossed up, really close series that

448
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 1: I think Atlanta has like the perfect kind of personnel

449
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,680
Speaker 1: to uh attack Milwaukee what they what they do well.

450
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 1: So I'm kind of I'm really interested to see it. Um.

451
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,119
Speaker 1: I don't really trust the other guys, I guess as

452
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 1: much in Milwaukee to just score enough, um they can

453
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,400
Speaker 1: win on the road. Of course. I just think it's

454
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 1: gonna be a really long series. Um. I guess you

455
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,639
Speaker 1: can kind of move to this like Clippers Clippers Son series.

456
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 1: What did you kind of see from the first two games?

457
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 1: Like what was your kind of main first kind of

458
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 1: takeaway from from those from those two games? So, first

459
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 1: of all, I think that the Clippers are a case

460
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 1: study and how modern basketball, you know, I can succeed

461
00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,159
Speaker 1: even in absence of talent. That's not to say that

462
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 1: the Clippers on a town, because they do. But but

463
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,880
Speaker 1: Phoenixes has a lot more talent in my opinion, um,

464
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 1: and I think Utah even pre even with the injury

465
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 1: to to Mike Conley, I thought Utah had more talent

466
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 1: than the Clippers without Kawhi Leonard. But they've won on

467
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 1: the strength of dribble drive creation from from Reggie Jackson

468
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 1: and from Paul George and just spacing the hell out

469
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 1: of the floor was shooting, and then a switching defensive

470
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 1: scheme that has caused teams to have a lot of problems. Um.

471
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,360
Speaker 1: Paul George continues to to really impress me. I think,

472
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 1: you know, Lakers fans have their fun um uh and

473
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 1: and he walked right into it with those two free

474
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 1: throw misses. But I thought he was so good at

475
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 1: the end of that game before the misses, and that's

476
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 1: just a really unfortunate It's an unfortunate turn of events

477
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 1: for a player that has really stepped up to the plate. Um.

478
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 1: But I think I continue to be incredible. Phoenix has

479
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 1: not lost the game since since uh since Anthony Davis

480
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 1: pulled his growing um. At the end of that game too,

481
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 1: everybody was making plays. You had you know eight and

482
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 1: making a tough hook shot over Zubos. You had Michail

483
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 1: Bridges hitting the three coming off the screen at the

484
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 1: top of the key. You had you know, Campaign driving

485
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: scooping layup. You know, like like as amazing as Devin

486
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: Booker is like that, they don't need him to do everything.

487
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 1: I think he only made five shots in game two

488
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 1: because the role players for that Phoenix in retrospect might

489
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 1: be in that top tier of talent in the league,

490
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 1: not with their stars. Their stars are both you know,

491
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: in that ten to fifteen tend to twenty range in

492
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: the league. But down the roster, they're stacked at every position.

493
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 1: Everybody's really good. Campaign is like a really good guard

494
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: and you know they've awesome three and d guys. Eighten

495
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,439
Speaker 1: is on his way to being a star like Phoenix.

496
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 1: Phoenix is really really good, and I think I think

497
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 1: they deserve a lot of credit for the way things

498
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 1: have broken, even though they've had some injury lock. Yeah,

499
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 1: for sure. I guess before I get into it, like

500
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: I got kind of killed for going to a Clipper game.

501
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: What a what a crime that was? But going to

502
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 1: the I know, how dare I go watch a basketball game?

503
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,959
Speaker 1: But like going to the game and going seeing like

504
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 1: what the playoffs are in person, that crowd like really

505
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 1: did change the game, like we make fun of like

506
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: Kipper fans, but like that crowd was so into it.

507
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 1: I saw it affect Utah on the floor, like I

508
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: saw Royce O'Neill get like, holy crap, Like this crowd

509
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 1: game super loud. I can't hear anything, and he turned

510
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: the ball over. Like That's where I think it's so

511
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: interesting this game. Going back for game three, those those

512
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: players really pick it up at home. They really feed

513
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 1: off the crowd. Terrence Man dropped forty in that final

514
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 1: Game six to kind of make an advance. So I

515
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: don't think this series series is over, but I do

516
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 1: think like I agree with I think Phoenix has the

517
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 1: more talent um. I've been kind of banging this drum,

518
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: like I feel like they're way deeper than I guess

519
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 1: we even thought Michal Bridges is just one of the

520
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 1: best three in D. I don't even think he's just

521
00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,719
Speaker 1: three and D, but just one of the best three

522
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,679
Speaker 1: D players. Cam Johnson and then like for this series

523
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 1: to me, like I thought the key was DeAndre Aden

524
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: and he forced them to go big in Game two

525
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 1: reaches Zoo Bag played thirty five minutes, he was a

526
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: plus zero. I just think as the series goes on,

527
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 1: I don't know if you would agree, but that's kind

528
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 1: of a win for Phoenix if you make the Clippers

529
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: go big. Um, it takes away the driving lanes from

530
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: Paul George. Um. He he had a bad shooting bad

531
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 1: shooting nine in Game two when they went big. Some

532
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 1: of that circumstantial, Some of that is not. Some of

533
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: that isn't coincidence to me. I think his driving lanes

534
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 1: getting shut off by them having to go big. I

535
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: think it's a win. And then you allow Devin Booker

536
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 1: to got to get to his spots, which is that

537
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 1: like mid range kind of mid range area, Like would

538
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: you agree with that? Like, let getting the Clippers to

539
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: go big, even if it neutralizes eight and a bit,

540
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 1: which it really didn't. I think it was ten for

541
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: fourteen even when they went big. But like I feel

542
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: like that's a win for them as we go forward

543
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: in this series and made them it made them abandon

544
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 1: what the identity they had taken. And this goes to

545
00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 1: that question that was that arose after Game six of

546
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: the Clippers Jazz series. You know is DeAndre Eten a

547
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 1: better basketball player than Rudy Gobert, and I don't think that.

548
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a case to be made in

549
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 1: the regular season, but you but you are seeing and

550
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 1: I don't even necessarily have an opinion on this. I

551
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 1: don't want this to be taken out of out of

552
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 1: context here, but I do think that there is a

553
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 1: case to be made that Eten is a better playoff

554
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: player than Gobert because he's more mobile on the perimeter.

555
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: He's better at defending in space. Gobert is much better

556
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 1: at the rim, sure, but but Eaton has has shown

557
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: a better ability to rotate around on the perimeter, and

558
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: Eton is just a bigger physical presence in the pain. Offensively,

559
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: he's better at offensive rebounding, He's better at the little

560
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: push and hook shots around the bast He's got great hands,

561
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: he rolls hard to the rim. Guys bounce off of

562
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: him because he's stronger than Gobert, and he's just a

563
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: bigger problem on the back end of those rotations. If

564
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 1: you trap, you know a if you trapped Booker coming

565
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: up the screen, if you trap Campaign coming up the screen,

566
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: and even if the back line defender is there to

567
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: bump and Chuck and as he's coming down the lane,

568
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 1: he's just so big. He raises his arms, makes himself available,

569
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: and he's got great hands and he just catches and

570
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: finishes everything. So again, like I'm not saying he's better

571
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: than Gobert, but he's shown himself to be extremely valuable

572
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: in the playoffs in his first attempt in a modern

573
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: form of basketball, in a way that Gobert hasn't really

574
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 1: shown um over the time. And so I think that's

575
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: been really interesting. And like you said, like you said,

576
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 1: it forced the Clippers to play differently. In the last series.

577
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: It was a lot of Marcus Morris and a lot

578
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: of Nick Patu, you know, but instead you're seeing zoobots

579
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: plan even though he was, you know, mostly a non

580
00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 1: factor against Utah, and then you're seeing, uh, I'm blinking

581
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: on his name, the left handed shooter um on for

582
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: for the Clippers. Yes, thank you. You had big minutes

583
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 1: in that game. Uh, you know, the Clippers had to

584
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: kind of switch gears in a lot of ways. And

585
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: so I thought, I thought that that was really interesting.

586
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 1: And that's just the problem that Phoenix presents to you.

587
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: They they they do not allow you to go small

588
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: because Aton can punish you. I mean hell Eton literally

589
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: physically demolished Anthony Davis for a playoff game in game

590
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: one of that first round series. So I think Eton

591
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: Eaton kind of allows them to have multiple identities as

592
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: like this modern basketball team with tons of shooting and dribbling,

593
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: while also having that physical presence inside. Yeah, and Jason.

594
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: It's not just like a just being able to catch

595
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: and hit a jump hook just changes everything, Like going

596
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: to go in there in person and watching Gobert catch

597
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: it two feet in the paint, double pump, fake twice

598
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: and throw up you know nothing. It's just super frustrating

599
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: to watch. Yeah, Like no, but not even just that,

600
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: Like I feel like a seven footer like you should be,

601
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: Like they would switch and they'd have like Reggie Jackson

602
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: on Golbert and he can't do anything with it. The

603
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: Clippers aren't scared of it at all, and like the

604
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: the Utah players don't even look at him either. Though.

605
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: That's the other part about this. Donovan Mitchell attacks his

606
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: own switch rather than trying to get Gobert to the ball.

607
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,479
Speaker 1: So it's just Aten is just such a different monster

608
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: in that, like you can't switch Kennard, Reggie Jackson, guys

609
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: like that on him because he'll just eat You'll just

610
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: eat them alive. It's just really interesting to watch the

611
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: difference there. Obviously, go Beart is a much better, I

612
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: guess defender in the in the regular season, but I

613
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: think Aten has done a good job like that they

614
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: weren't able to pick on him as they were gobert Um.

615
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: I think I think Phoenix has better probably perimeter defenders,

616
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: right because he would say that, like they have a

617
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: lot better perimeter defenders in Utah. But still though, watching

618
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: Aiden just like demolished him inside, I think it's really interesting.

619
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: I'm curious, like, do you think Tyler continues to go

620
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: big um as we as we go to l A.

621
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: I think you'll have to um because of the Aden problem.

622
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: It's the same it's the same problem that the Lakers

623
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: were dealing with, you know, like they couldn't play someone

624
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: like Montrese after a d went down because of the

625
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: fact that Aiden was such a big physical problem for them.

626
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: And you know the you mentioned the defense, and I

627
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: think that was one of the big takeaways I had

628
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: from this series and just this playoff run in general.

629
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: You know, Utah was a better regular season defense because

630
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: of their funneling in to go Bear and the fact

631
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: that teams couldn't properly attack him. Um but they Utah

632
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: wasn't good at the point of attack in that series.

633
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: They were getting killed off the dribble by everybody Roy,

634
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: So Neil was getting killed, Ingles was getting killed. Jordan

635
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: Clarkson was basically just a turnstile. Like the the Phoenix,

636
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: perimeter defenders do a much better job of keeping guys

637
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: in front of them, which makes it so that Aidan's

638
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: job is easier, which makes it that he doesn't have

639
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: to guard in space as much. Like that, a lot

640
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: of stuff is being set up for eight and playing

641
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: into his strengths like that was part of the issue

642
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: for Gobert is like half the time he's constantly helping

643
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: at the rin because somebody just gave up a straight

644
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: line drive with no resistance, and then you know he helps,

645
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: but then the ball gets swung around and he can't

646
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: get back out to the perimeter. And you know with

647
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,959
Speaker 1: by by just by putting up just a little bit

648
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: more resistance on the ball, you make it. You make

649
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: it a lot easier for your for your back line

650
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: defenders to do their jobs. And I feel like for Utah,

651
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: like all season, they've kind of funneled everything to go

652
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: Bear right, Like that's basically been their game plan. When

653
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: you watch Utah, like their their guards funnel it to

654
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: go Bart. It's his job to kind of help. But

655
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: you don't play these five our lineubs in the regular season.

656
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: So when the Clippers went to this, they just had

657
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: no adjustment to it. But like my other thing I

658
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: wrote here is like Devin Booker is putting himself into

659
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,479
Speaker 1: like the superstar shop maker category, right, Like this is

660
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: like this is high level of shot making. I thought

661
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: Devin Booker was really good. I thought he should have

662
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: been you know, all NBA or whatever. I didn't think

663
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: he was this level of high quality shotmaker. Like he's

664
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: he's raising, waiting for the defender to kind of come down,

665
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: and then releasing like he's changing his shot in mid air.

666
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: He's he has a spot where like once he raises,

667
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: it's over. Like what are you seeing from like him? Um?

668
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: And do you think he can kind of keep this up?

669
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: But obviously Chris Paul looks like he'll be back by

670
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: game three. But do you see this as sustainable this

671
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: level of shot making. Well, he didn't shoot well in

672
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: game two, but I thought game one he really went off.

673
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: Do you see, like, do you see anything that the

674
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: Clippers in game two to make him struggle a little

675
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: bit more, or like, do you think it's just he

676
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: just kind of missed his shots. I thought he got

677
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: to the line as well to kind of keep them alive.

678
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: But like, what do you see from Devin Booker in

679
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: this series? Well, I think Booker, So first of all,

680
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: I think Booker belongs on the same tier as someone

681
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: like Kyrie Irving. And by that I mean, like at

682
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: his specific skill, which is that the lead high end

683
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: three level scoring, he's one of the one of that

684
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: top tier of guys. Um, he needs to get better

685
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: at the other stuff, the defensive stuff and the although

686
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: he's defended pretty well this year, uh, in the playmaking

687
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: stuff to really kind of be considered among the best

688
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: of the best. But I think I think he belongs

689
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: in that Kyriet here, And what that means is in

690
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: any given one game sample, he's a high threat to

691
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: be the best player on the floor, and we've seen

692
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: that a bunch of different times, including that close out

693
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: Game six against the Lakers where it's like, yeah, a

694
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: d went down. You know, the Lakers are trying to

695
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: get their legs back. There's not a whole lot going

696
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: on with them knocking down shots. But what really killed

697
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: them was Devin Booker was literally on fire and there

698
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: was nothing they could do with him. You know, I

699
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: have a big believer in what he brings to the table.

700
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: You know, in game two, I thought the Clifflippers just

701
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: mucked it up. I thought they had made it a

702
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: ton more physical. They made it a point of like

703
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna put Pat Beverley on him. Pat Beverley is

704
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: gonna pick up some fouls. It's gonna get ugly, but

705
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: we just want to kind of throw Devon off. And

706
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: for the record, in the long run, it worked in

707
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: their face Fiver because their role players had confidence to

708
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: make big plays at the end of the game. Like

709
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: you know, in in that specific role, Devin Booker is

710
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: kind of a decoy. Yeah, he only made five shots.

711
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: Although I did think that one dribble pull up or

712
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: the you know several dribble pull up, the one you're

713
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: talking about at the end of the game, Um, that

714
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: was such a gigantic shot. But for the most part,

715
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: he's playing decoy. He's he's just trying to be himself,

716
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: but to draw as much attention in on him as

717
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 1: possible so that his teammates can get going. And uh,

718
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: and you know, really quickly before before we're done with

719
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: this game, you know, I that that was such an

720
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: officiating atrocity, I thought, and so many different examples of

721
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 1: what's wrong with the way the game is officiated. Happened

722
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:52,240
Speaker 1: at the end of that game between the Infamous you know. Uh,

723
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: there's a collision at a ball screen off off ball screen,

724
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: and no one knows what to do where Paul George

725
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: just ran and and Devin Booker's literally just trying to

726
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 1: hold his ground and Paul George just hooks his arm

727
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: and just flops and falls to the ground and gets

728
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: two free throws to the to the Uh. Patrick Beverley

729
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 1: literally reaching in, like when you reach in aggressively your face,

730
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: your face follows your shoulder, you know why, because it's attached,

731
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: it's attached to your shoulder. And he reached in and

732
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: on the play, Devin Booker's natural arm motion barely bumps

733
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 1: him in the face, and he just flails and flops

734
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: and even on review, it becomes an offensive foul, and

735
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,919
Speaker 1: then you've got the uh, the the awful play where

736
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: the ball was knocked out of bounds and in every

737
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: single level of basketball, including the NBA, that's ball to

738
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: the offense. But we're gonna review it and overturn it,

739
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: like I just I thought. And then the replay reviews

740
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: just slowing down the game and making it last for

741
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: everything I think. I think they said the last two

742
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: minutes took thirty three minutes of real time, Like I

743
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: just something. These playoffs have been fantastic, So I don't

744
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: want to reign on a parade, but something has to

745
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 1: be done. So something has to be done to get

746
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: the egos of these officials in check, to to to

747
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: do something to counteract what the way the game is

748
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: being officiated. UH two reactionary to flopping and and and

749
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what needs to be done,

750
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: but something needs to be done. That's all I'm gonna

751
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 1: say about it. My solution is, I feel like the

752
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: referee should have a twenty four second shot clock to

753
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: like get those reviews done for us. On teach, we

754
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 1: see two reviews, we see two close replays, and you know,

755
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: we kind of decided I feel like it shouldn't take

756
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: that long, And I agree with you. On the first

757
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 1: of all, that flop by Patrick Beverley was absolutely awful,

758
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: Like he did kind of get touched, but I felt

759
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: like it was an awful flop. And then I thought

760
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: Jeffund Gunny, who kind of made the point there is

761
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: the way. The rule says it's the person who causes

762
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: the ball to go out of bounds, right, so it's

763
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: not called that way, but the referees are kind of

764
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: told to call it this way. It's a it's a

765
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 1: tough thing to kind of navigate through there. But Yeah,

766
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: this is a really interesting series. Man. I'm really excited

767
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 1: to see where this kind of goes. I don't I

768
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 1: don't think they're done. Um, I don't know if Kauai

769
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: will I'm back, he's already out, I believe for game three. Um,

770
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: I'm just wanting like what adjustments I guess um the

771
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: Clippers will kind of do to keep going, Like what

772
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: other adjustments do they have? I guess um campaign dropping

773
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: twenty nine on them, Like I feel like they believe

774
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: that won't happen again. Although like these Guards have really

775
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: big fans yeah, man, watching him just do exactly what

776
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: he did to us kind of felt a little bit better.

777
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: He just attacked the rim man and you know he

778
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: I mean he kind of played out crisp I mean

779
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 1: he might even outplayed what Chris Paul would have done

780
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: in terms of production. Just watching him drive to the

781
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: rim hit hit threes, it kind of gave us. Give

782
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: me a little PTSD. But where do where the Clippers

783
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: kind of go to kind of steal I guess to

784
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: kind of take Game three, well, I think they I

785
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 1: think they need to kind of mimic what the Lakers

786
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: did in Game two, which is they need to do

787
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: a better job of of of making eight and play

788
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: in the crowd and rotating on the back end, which

789
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,720
Speaker 1: for the most part, it's just about doing a better job.

790
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily doing anything different. It's just doing what

791
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: you're doing at a higher level. I think Game three

792
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: is a must win for Phoenix in a lot of

793
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: ways because I don't know what the I don't know

794
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: what the intel is on the Kauai thing. And let

795
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: let me clarify why I think it's a must win.

796
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: It will make more sense after I say anyway, I

797
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: don't know what the intel is on the Kauai thing,

798
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: because you know, part of me says, you know, prior

799
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: knowledge would tell us that Kauai would never even dare

800
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: lace up unless his knee was because of the fact

801
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 1: that that's the way he's approached that throughout his career.

802
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 1: He's terrified of getting hurt, it seems, so he's always

803
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: waited longer than usual. But at the same time, like

804
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: Bill Simmons keeps talking about how he has reason to

805
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: believe that he's going to try to come back in

806
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: this series. And one thing is if if you go

807
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: up three oh, Kauai is not coming back. If you

808
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: go up three oh, Kauai's flying back down to San

809
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: Diego and he's resting, he's going into rehab. So like

810
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: game three to me is a chance to to to

811
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: get there. Like if if if the Clippers yet game three,

812
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: and if the series drags on and Kauai has a

813
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: chance to come back, that could get sketchy, uh for

814
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: Phoenix because because the Clippers do play really well at

815
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: the end of these series, as we've seen so far

816
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: in this playoff run, and if Kauai really does just

817
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: have a knee sprain, one of the things with a

818
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: knee sprain is that you know you're not you're not. Uh,

819
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: you don't have to deal with the long term weakening

820
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: of the knee muscles because you're still in shape. You

821
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: have pain in the ligaments. But if he does try

822
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: to come back, as long as he doesn't re injure himself,

823
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: he could still be a decent percentage of himself, like

824
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: we saw with Steph in two thousands, sixteen and so

825
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: on and so forth. And the last thing you need is,

826
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: you know, Game five, series tied at two and here

827
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: comes Kauai, you know what I mean. So I think

828
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 1: I think Game three is a is a good chance

829
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: for for the Suns to just put the Clippers out

830
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: of their misery and send him into the summer and

831
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 1: make sure that Kauai doesn't try to come back. I

832
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: can steal this thing. Yeah, that's why it's so interesting

833
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 1: that Chris Paul is coming back, because, like I keep

834
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: thinking back, it is kind of crazy, right, the Lakers

835
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: beat them twice actually, and they're the only team to

836
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: beat Phoenix UM in the playoffs, so it's a really

837
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: kind of interstring. But Chris Paul coming back, and like

838
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: the Lakers kind of game plan. Remember we kind of

839
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: talked about it. They were kind of living with eight

840
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: and scoring right as long as they were able to

841
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: take away Um Booker and Chris Paul's effectiveness. And it

842
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: kind of worked for the first two games and for

843
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: the game two. In Game three they won while still

844
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: not shooting well from three. I just don't think the

845
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: Clippers have the personnel to do that, like to where

846
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: they can let a and eat while just living with

847
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: zoobas trying to defend Chris Paul and Devin Booker on

848
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 1: the perimeter. And like, that's where I'm so interested to see.

849
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: That's what makes Phoenix so tough. Like we're watching Devin

850
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: Booker hit these shots and we forget, like the best

851
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: mid range score ever maybe is about to come back.

852
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: And that's the shots the Clippers kind of have to

853
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: give up going big because if you go big, Zoobach

854
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: can't switch out. You know, Chris Paul is gonna draw

855
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: a million fouls he tries to hedge hard. Patrick Beverley

856
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: and Chris Paul is gonna be a fun matchup. Rondo

857
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: and Chris Paul too, who ate each other. But I'm

858
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: just so curious to see how the Chris Paul. Chris

859
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: Paul obviously gonna be super fired up coming back for

860
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: his team who won those first two games. I'm just

861
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,240
Speaker 1: interested in how they defend that, especially without Kauaire basically

862
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: Paul George Um and you know, Paul Joys trying to

863
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: defend Devin Booker and I don't know who guards Chris Paul,

864
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: but that's where I'm interested to see. Like I feel

865
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 1: like going big neutralizes eating to an extent, but then

866
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: you have to kind of guard their guards on top,

867
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: and Phoenix isn't such a sync right now. They're you know,

868
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: they're double drag screens are like on point. Jake Crowder's

869
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: making shots with cole Bridges that love to Aidan man

870
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: what like? Have you seen that? Like that play, Like,

871
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: I think I've seen it one time before, but I

872
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 1: thought that was just an amazing kind of play. The

873
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: end the game to where Aidan got the dunk. It's

874
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 1: just they look like they're they're gonna they're gonna put

875
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: this away. But I think there's gonna be a long series,

876
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: but it looks like they're they're up for it. Yeah,

877
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: I did that play. We've seen it a handful of times.

878
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: I've seen variations of it. I saw Vince Carter get

879
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: one ages ago. I saw the Tyson Chandler one that's famous.

880
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: You know what's funny is I remember thinking the Tyson

881
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: Chandler one was a goldpend and but I didn't watch

882
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: it live and I didn't really research it. So apparently

883
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: that was when the rule was originally uh you know,

884
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: kind of like that people learned about the rule um

885
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,280
Speaker 1: because I thought, you know, when the lab is originally thrown,

886
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: I thought like, oh, I think that I think that

887
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: that got over the rim enough for Eighton to get

888
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: a good clean dunk on it. Like I just thought

889
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: it would have counted anyway. And then when I heard

890
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: about the rule, I was like, oh, this is over,

891
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: Like like, if that's the rule, then there's nothing to

892
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 1: even look at here, you know what I mean? But yeah,

893
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: you know what you're talking about, the adjustments the This

894
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: is the beauty of having a team that makes you

895
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: pick your poison. And it's what makes me looks so

896
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: good and it's what made the Lakers so good. Is

897
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: it's like when you're when you as a defense have

898
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,919
Speaker 1: to choose between two crappy options, you know that that's

899
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: when you when you really you have power as a

900
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: as an NBA contender, because you know, the hera the Clippers,

901
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: a team that just destroyed the one seed without Kauai

902
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: because of matchups, because the Jazz did not have a

903
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 1: good option to counter what the Clippers were doing. And

904
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: flip around to the other end, and here you are

905
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: in a different series against a different team, but now

906
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: they have presented matchup problems for you, and you're gonna

907
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: be sitting in there watching film, going, Okay, we gotta

908
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: play zoobots because Etan's killing us. But if we play

909
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: zobots and Chris Paul comes back, they're going to attack

910
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: the living hell out of him, you know, And and

911
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: that's the that's the the discussion to be had. My

912
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: guess is by the end, the Clippers are going to

913
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: go down playing small, Like if they go down, they're

914
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 1: gonna go down. I think playing small. I think they're

915
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 1: just gonna try to really swarm around eight and try

916
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 1: to get him before he goes up. Stuff along those lines.

917
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: But that's what the Lakers tried to and they didn't

918
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: have a ton of success. I can't tell you how

919
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: many times I saw Crusoe or Cacp comes flying by

920
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 1: from the opposite corner on an entry pass to eighton

921
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: and tried to knock the ball the way. But he's

922
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 1: just got big, strong hands and and he's really coordinated

923
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: and he's quick in decisions. When I said Gobart is

924
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: too slow, I'm talking about his decisions around the basket,

925
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: like go Beart catches and thinks about it. He doesn't

926
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: know what to do, like like eating catches and it's

927
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: like just it's all fluid, natural motion to the basket

928
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,760
Speaker 1: with those little scoop shots and layups and floaters and stuff,

929
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: and and that's where where he gets going. Yeah, I

930
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: would say, yeah. And he's a number one pick for

931
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: a reason, right, Like that's why it's weird. We kind

932
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: of we kind of kind of forget that sometimes watching him,

933
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: just because of his kind of draft class. But like

934
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: he's the number one pick though he's supposed to be

935
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 1: more skilled. It's just while I'm watching, like going from

936
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: watching like Gobert catch it download not be able to

937
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: do anything, or even Derrick Favre is a guy like

938
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: that to like Eton who just punishes you every single

939
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: time les jump hooks turned around. Um, he's able to

940
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 1: make layouts. It just changes the whole game. It's he's

941
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: can't go small against him, and he's a force, Like

942
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: he actually attacks the offensive rebounds and he cuts. He

943
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: dives with like intention to like dunk on you, you know,

944
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: like and you know, go bears a lob threat, but

945
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: like his lobs are like so like he has to

946
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: be open. I feel like right, like go BET's not

947
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: catching and dunking on you a lot of the times.

948
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: Aten will like catch and finish in like and ones

949
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: in a way there where he got just doesn't put

950
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: pressure like that. So it's really just stronger. He's stronger. Yeah, um,

951
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: and I think I think Bonnie Williams deserves his flowers

952
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: to uh yeah, like every every little for him to

953
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 1: be drawing up plays for role players at the end

954
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: of games out of time out, like like he did

955
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: for uh Michail Bridges on that big three at the

956
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: top of the Key, which was literally an aftertime outplay,

957
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: you know, for him to the way he adjusted to

958
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: the Beverly stuff in Game one by by having them

959
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: set the screen out near half court in Booker just

960
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,720
Speaker 1: picked him apart, you know, uh, with a more space

961
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: to his last second play design for DeAndre Ayton genius

962
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: to have Booker set the back screen because Booker had

963
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: just made the shot on the previous possession. And and

964
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: also so this is stuff that like stuff that you

965
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: you notice that you can do a better job of

966
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: noticing on on rewatch, like he Booker makes the pull

967
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: up jump shot that gives him the lead. And on

968
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: the next possession, they openly double Devin Booker on the

969
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: right wing and it leads to the wide open Michale

970
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: Bridges corner three that he missed. But that is Tyler

971
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 1: showing that he's doubling Booker. If you're doubling Booker, chances

972
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: are if you use him as a screener, you might

973
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: get someone to bite and take and double down on Booker.

974
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: And and Zoobo didn't double Booker, but he lunged at

975
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: him on the screen. He lunged to the right, got

976
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: himself out of position. And eighton was if you watch

977
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: eighton had plenty of space to really load up into

978
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: a jump. And that's all play design. That's Monty Williams

979
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: noticing that they're doubling Devin Booker on the previous possession,

980
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,919
Speaker 1: understanding that if they had Booker set the screen, He's

981
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: probably gonna draw an extra defender with him and that

982
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: leading to the game winner. And then I think, you know,

983
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: like I said, money, money, Money has to get his

984
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: flowers for the way he's coached so far at this postseason. No, absolutely,

985
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: And that was a beautiful play design. They had like

986
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: point seven uh seven seconds left, so I honestly thought

987
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: the Clippers had that. Um, it was funny watching Cousins

988
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: like not take away the one pass you're supposed to

989
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: or like that's the whole point of being there is

990
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: to take away that specific pass. And he just did

991
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: you see the baseline angle? Did you see that on

992
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: the baseline? Oh my god, Like he still almost got

993
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 1: a hand on it, and he was out of position.

994
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: That's the crazy part. That's why you have to be

995
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,280
Speaker 1: in the right spot. Like he was way out of position,

996
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 1: but he's so big he almost blocked the past anyway. Yeah, no, exactly.

997
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: That's just just a crazy finish and it's kind of

998
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: the Clippers. Um left there. We'll see how it goes. Um,

999
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: do you have anything else from this game? I just

1000
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: have one last kind of thing for you. Are you done?

1001
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: I'm done for this game. What do you alright last

1002
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: thing tonight? Like we haven't I don't think we've spoken

1003
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: since the Philly um Hawks game seven, right, um have

1004
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: have you? Have you ever seen anything like the Ben

1005
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,720
Speaker 1: Simmons kind of thing that went on, not just maybe

1006
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 1: that game, that series, Like I've been watching hoops for

1007
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: like since like two thousand and seven thou eight. I

1008
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 1: haven't seen like a player go through that, especially like

1009
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: I've seen players pass up open shots here and there.

1010
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: I've never seen a guy like with that much talent

1011
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: go through this kind of mental hurdle where he takes

1012
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: four shots in the whole fourth quarter of a seven

1013
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: game series. Like is there anything that you've seen that

1014
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: you can relate to that? Or like where does he

1015
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: go from here? Or like anything, like what do you

1016
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: what do you think about Ben Simmons from there? Because

1017
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: I think that's just a really fascinating thing that kind

1018
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 1: of happened to him, and obviously his value absolutely tinked

1019
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: from there. We'll see what He's obviously not going to

1020
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: be back with Philly in my opinion, But like, have

1021
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: you seen anything like that or or what are your

1022
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 1: thoughts on that? So, first of all, no, I haven't

1023
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: seen anything like that. I mean the kind of thing

1024
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: that I've seen, you know, a half dozen times, you know,

1025
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 1: in my time watching basketball is the the Janice against

1026
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: Miami last year type of deal. The up and coming superstar,

1027
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: usually early to mid twenties, has unbelievable dominant regular seasons,

1028
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: but gets into the playoffs and struggles against playoff defensives

1029
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: that we see all the time. That's kind of like

1030
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: par for the course, so to speak. What we don't

1031
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: see often, what we never see is like like Lebron's

1032
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: game for against the Mavericks where he had eight points

1033
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: in two thousand and eleven, but every single game like

1034
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 1: that was like Lebron did that once and it was

1035
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: considered like unbelievably insane, Like we we just don't see

1036
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: players of his talent level just like do this. And

1037
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: and as far as the explanation for it, I think

1038
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 1: it's just the way he's wired. And you know, there's

1039
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: I think it's like his work ethic, because he obviously

1040
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: doesn't work on his game. Like there was that executive

1041
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: that came out after the game and was like, can

1042
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: you tell me one thing that Ben Simmons is better

1043
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: at now than he was when he was drafted, and

1044
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: the answers. No, you could argue he's gotten worse at

1045
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: some things, like you know, even though he may not

1046
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: have a jump shot, but it's like he doesn't need

1047
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: a jump shot. Would he necessarily be nice for him

1048
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: to have a jump shot, but he needs to have

1049
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 1: floaters and scoop shots and hook shots and push shots

1050
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: and anything that he could get off against specific matchups

1051
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: in the uh you know, inside fifteen ft he doesn't

1052
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,439
Speaker 1: have any of that. You know that that's the that

1053
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: that's the embarrassing part. But like the other half of

1054
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: it is the way he's wired. I genuinely certain people

1055
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: are just you know, it's like the Lebron verse KD thing.

1056
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,919
Speaker 1: You know, Lebron, He's at the end of the game,

1057
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: he's gonna drive and if he draws a second defender,

1058
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: he's gonna kick it. That's the way he's wired. You

1059
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: could tell him to do something different, but he doesn't

1060
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: want to. That's not the way he likes to play basketball.

1061
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: You know. The way Kevin Durant plays basketball is a

1062
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,479
Speaker 1: more assassin menality, and he might take a bad shot

1063
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: over to defenders. That's just kind of the way he's wired.

1064
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,720
Speaker 1: The same thing goes like for Ben Simmons, he's wired

1065
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: like Jason Kidd. He wants to rebound, he wants to defend,

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00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: he wants to set up his teammates, he wants to

1067
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: occasionally take a shot when it really fits in with

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00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: the offense. But he doesn't have that aggression gene. So

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00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: even if he did get good at that stuff, I

1070
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: just don't know that he'd necessarily start doing it. I

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00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 1: just I just don't think it's really wired into his game.

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00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: And and you don't he In the postgame presser, someone

1073
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: asked him, you know, about him not playing well, you know,

1074
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: compared to the regular season, and he looked over at

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00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: the assistant and he goes, you know, hey, uh, you

1076
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: know how many assists did I have tonight? And there

1077
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 1: was like fifteen or something, and then he was like,

1078
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: how many What a Trey What a Trey Young? Shoot?

1079
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: You know there's five for twent three or whatever it was.

1080
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: And he goes like, yeah, I feel like I feel

1081
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: like I did pretty well. And he's not wrong, like

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00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:10,720
Speaker 1: he's like he did a good job within that Jason

1083
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: Kidd type of role. The question is, is is he's got

1084
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: the talent of Jason Kidd mixed with a little bit

1085
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: of Lebron you know, so he should be more than

1086
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: Jason Kidd. He just I just said, I don't think

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00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: he wants to, and I don't think he works hard

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00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: enough to do that even if you wanted to. Yeah,

1089
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: Like my thing was, he never had a jump shot,

1090
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: right like that this idea that like a jump shot

1091
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: is the cure all Like he was a good player

1092
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: before even without jump shot. It's just like he used

1093
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 1: to have an actual like inside game where like I

1094
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 1: remember when we used to play Philly would be like,

1095
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,439
Speaker 1: who are you putting on Ben Simmons? Because you can't

1096
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: just put like a k CP on Ben Simmons, because

1097
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: he would take you to the post. He would punish

1098
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 1: you inside, you know what I mean, Like you would

1099
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 1: he'd finish in there. And now like in the playoffs,

1100
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: it's like where you putting on Ben Simmons, it doesn't

1101
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: really matter because he's gonna go stand in dunker spot.

1102
00:52:58,200 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: Like but and maybe that's like a team kind of

1103
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: building thing. Maybe need more space, But I feel like

1104
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: that just gives him like too much credit. Like I

1105
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: I don't know, like putting it's not really feasible to

1106
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: just build a team around Ben Simmons, especially a primary

1107
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: ball handler who can't shoot. It's just so weird to

1108
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: watch like him like that that like dunk that he

1109
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: had that he passed him and his size bowl, which

1110
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: like obviously was the biggest play of that, but there

1111
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: were a bunch of other players where like, you know,

1112
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: he'd he'd get the rebound, like sprint up court, fly

1113
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: down there, and then just do a handoff like it's

1114
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 1: like this like fake kind of drive, you know, just

1115
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: like sprint up the court and then no, not at

1116
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: all and hand off to Purk on cork Mas, you know,

1117
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 1: like and then go stand in the dugas bross Like

1118
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: what was the point of like doing that speed, going

1119
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: all the way to it and then just go and

1120
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: stand on the dunks. But like his skill and like

1121
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: at six ten, it's not like he's undersized. He's not

1122
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 1: like Donovan Mitchell size. You know, he's just six ten dude.

1123
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 1: Like if you get to the rim in transition, Like

1124
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: he can't even do ten percent of what Janice is

1125
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: doing in these fourth quarters. That's the crazy part to me,

1126
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: is like there's there should be in a level of

1127
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 1: aggression from a I was this good? Who was you know,

1128
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: put on a pedestal Pretty early in his career. He

1129
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: was the best player on all his teams up until

1130
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: he got into the n B. A um, you could

1131
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: even argue maybe that first year he was the best,

1132
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: he was the best player, but like, just it's just

1133
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 1: really weird to watch a guy who I feel like

1134
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 1: was better his rookie year than he is now. So like,

1135
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: it's just fascinating. I just wanted your, uh, your thoughts

1136
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: on that, because I don't know where he goes from here.

1137
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: Well really quickly. The last thing I'll say about it

1138
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: is that that famous play that he got made fun

1139
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: of for at the end on the baseline where he

1140
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: missed the dunk or didn't take the dunk. What was

1141
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 1: so funny is that kind of got portrayed too as

1142
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: like a choking kind of thing, like he got scared

1143
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: or like something along those lines. I literally think that's

1144
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: just an extension of his mentality. It's not that it's

1145
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,439
Speaker 1: not that he looked at the rim, looked at Trey Young,

1146
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: thought I can dunk this, but I'd rather not. He

1147
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: spun in immediately was looking for teammates because his mentality

1148
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: is I'm not here to shoot, I'm here to set

1149
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: people up, which that balance is so far on that

1150
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 1: side now that it's hurting him as a player. And

1151
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: that's a separate conversation, but that's all it was. Like,

1152
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: if anything, that play was just the embodiment of his

1153
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 1: mentality as a basketball player. That's just the way he

1154
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: is is he He's the guy that beats his man

1155
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: in a post up spin and gets to the baseline

1156
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: and immediately thinks, who am I passing this too? You

1157
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 1: know what I mean? So but anyway, we we went

1158
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 1: a little bit longer than I wanted to tonight, but

1159
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: I also want to eventually get around to having some

1160
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: people on. So let's try to do another one of

1161
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: these uh soon, and let's be a little bit quicker

1162
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: on the games, and let's get to some of our listeners.

1163
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: But do you have anything else you want to add

1164
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: tonight before we call it? Now? This is fundamental, but

1165
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: it's good to be back on the head, back in

1166
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,280
Speaker 1: the group of these things. Okay, man, all right, everybody,

1167
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: I will have the recording of this on our podcast

1168
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: speech shortly, thank you as always for you guys, support

1169
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:58,879
Speaker 1: and uh We will see you guys in the next

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Speaker 1: couple of days. Thanks for Yeah, Thanks to everyone