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Speaker 1: Welcome into Northside Territory. Foul Territory Networks Cubs Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Sahadev Sharma with my partner Patrick Mooney. We are your

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Speaker 1: Cubs beat writers over at the Athletic Patrick. The Cubs,

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Speaker 1: they're playing this middling brand of baseball right now. They

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Speaker 1: do not look like the fun, exciting, powerhouse offense team

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Speaker 1: that we saw for much of the season. Really, they

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Speaker 1: just seems, I don't want to say that, it looks,

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Speaker 1: you know, like twenty eighteen version. This hasn't extended long

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Speaker 1: enough to look like even last year, the two months

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Speaker 1: of just an empty offense. But it's been a couple

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Speaker 1: series now where the offense hasn't really looked like itself.

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Speaker 2: That ending to.

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Speaker 1: The series was nice, you know, it was some good

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Speaker 1: signs of some hard hit balls going into the seats.

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Speaker 1: That's what you want to see. You want to see

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Speaker 1: a little bit more of men on base with when

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Speaker 1: those balls go in seats. But it's a nice start

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Speaker 1: and hopefully that's a sign of things to come. But

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Speaker 1: I think what we're everyone has noticed, what everyone noticed

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Speaker 1: in July and what is kind of continued into August

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Speaker 1: is Kyle Tucker is not playing like Superstar Kyle Tucker.

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Speaker 1: He talked about it, councils talked about it. Even Jed

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Speaker 1: Hoyer was asked about it. You're getting different answers kind

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Speaker 1: of on whether it's the finger. Kyle Tucker's answer was basically,

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Speaker 1: everyone's dealing with something. Just got to go out there

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Speaker 1: and play. Jed Hoyer has said it's a fair question.

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Speaker 1: I don't know essentially, is it is it bugging him?

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Speaker 1: Is it healed? But he made some adjustments to play

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Speaker 1: through it originally, and now that's kind of thrown off

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Speaker 1: his mechanics. Who knows, and Craig Counsel doesn't believe that's

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Speaker 1: an issue. Craig Counsel does not believe the finger is

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Speaker 1: causing any issues here. So you know, ultimately, the bottom

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Speaker 1: line is he's playing. He's healthy enough to play, he's

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Speaker 1: not looking like Kyle Tucker, and it's a little weird.

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Speaker 3: I love the array of answers on this one. I

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Speaker 3: don't know if anyone really knows. And baseball is a

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Speaker 3: weird sport. As Anthony rizz would say, it's spaceball, that's spaceball,

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Speaker 3: and you know it. He got off to such a

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Speaker 3: great start that, as he called off, you know, his

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Speaker 3: numbers were still awesome, and now his numbers are solidly

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Speaker 3: above average. A very good season, but just not delivering

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Speaker 3: that same sort of impact. And I think if he

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Speaker 3: since he got a lot of the credit for the

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Speaker 3: team's great start, he has to shoulder some of the

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Speaker 3: blame here for a club that's looked that has just

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Speaker 3: been kind of like figuring out ways to get by

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Speaker 3: and you know, not totally bottom out. They still have

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Speaker 3: not gotten on that sustained hot streak really since early April.

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Speaker 3: I think that's what even internally they had been waiting

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Speaker 3: for of like, okay, you deal with this the show

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Speaker 3: to and steal injuries, you know, kind of grind through

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Speaker 3: the middle of the season. But the great teams find

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Speaker 3: a way to like take off again, and they really

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Speaker 3: just haven't. It's not like the trade deadline is going

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Speaker 3: to give him that huge boost, like those guys could

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Speaker 3: look who just walked in the room. That didn't really happen.

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Speaker 2: And so for.

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Speaker 3: It's been interesting to follow the waves of like, oh

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Speaker 3: my god, they have to extend Kyle Tucker, you know,

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Speaker 3: just write the check. And to now it's like well,

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Speaker 3: where's this guy been? I mean, it's it's the the

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Speaker 3: lack of like impact has been noticeable. Now, he still

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Speaker 3: contributes in a lot of different ways. He's still a

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Speaker 3: great player to build around, but the timing of this

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Speaker 3: has not been good. And it's really going to be

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Speaker 3: on him to see how he how he finishes here

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Speaker 3: and really makes that kind of closing kick before he

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Speaker 3: hits free agency, which now is just it was already

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Speaker 3: kind of obvious. I think now it's basically just you know,

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Speaker 3: the facts on the ground. We kind of know what

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think he he made some good points,

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Speaker 1: and this is Counsel's point, and I think this is

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Speaker 1: what Council really believes is happening.

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Speaker 2: He's just missing his pitch.

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Speaker 1: Uh. You know, you watch enough baseball, you see this

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Speaker 1: when and the central point is you when against major

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Speaker 1: if you're lucky. Right now, Kyle Tucker is fouling that

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Speaker 1: ball off. And then what happens is it's it's extending

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Speaker 1: that's not the best pitch of the at bat, but

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Speaker 1: you know, good enough to swing at or he's taking

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Speaker 1: a walk. He's he's done it. He's not chasing, he's

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Speaker 2: You know, that's that's sending alarm.

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Speaker 1: Across the you know, Cubs dation when this guy isn't

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Speaker 1: playing at this you know, insane level. And it's and

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Speaker 1: it's fair. It is fair because there's no power there.

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Speaker 1: I think he had one home run in July. Basically

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Speaker 1: that's where I think the concern is. He also made

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Speaker 1: it's been right at someone.

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Speaker 2: So it'll be like a.

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Speaker 1: Hard line drive, one hop single right to the right

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Speaker 1: feeling a little bit better about the power production.

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Speaker 2: It's still not enough.

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Speaker 1: It's still not like he's if he were batting three

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Speaker 1: he's just not finding the gap and the home run

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Speaker 1: power will come. There's obviously something off, and you hope

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Speaker 1: it's just tie and like slight mechanic tweak rather than

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Speaker 1: the finger is lingering and this is just something that

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Speaker 1: he has to play through. My I think the optimistic

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Speaker 1: take would be the injury. The finger injury happened on

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Speaker 1: June first. I believe it was June first, exactly, and

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Speaker 1: he had an absolutely monstrous June, just an awesome month.

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Speaker 1: It was his best month of the season, one of

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Speaker 1: the best months of his career. And that's the optimistic

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Speaker 1: take of don't worry about the finger, because look what

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Speaker 1: he did when initially the finger. He could have banged

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Speaker 1: it up again sometime in July he could or it

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Speaker 1: could just be like again like what Jed said about,

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Speaker 1: like did he develop a habit here and now he

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Speaker 1: can't fully get rid of that habit, So we'll find out.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a huge piece of this. I think

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Speaker 1: there's obviously I'm not breaking any news there, but that

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Speaker 1: combined with Michael Bush struggling since All Star break, say

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Speaker 1: Suzuki basically having two good game or two, a good

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Speaker 1: Great game on Wednesday, by the way, great sign for him.

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Speaker 1: Every at bat, every played appearance was was great. That's

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Speaker 1: that's important. Pc A going in a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a funk over the weekend and into UH and into

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Speaker 1: this past week.

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Speaker 2: Who am I missing?

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Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker, Michael Busch, p c A, Daisby Swanson's been

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Speaker 1: up and down lately. I inhaps finally hitting the ball

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Speaker 2: So there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's just not enough for those four guys

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Speaker 2: That's your power. You need. You need them to produce.

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Speaker 2: And if all of them aren't producing.

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Speaker 1: Once you get this Friday to Wednesday kind of malaise

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Speaker 1: of offense that that we saw, you just hope that's

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Speaker 1: all it is, like a two series stretch of really

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Speaker 2: If that's the worst it gets, you'll take it.

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Speaker 1: But you know, there are other factors that we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about that in a little bit. Let's take a quick

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Speaker 2: Patrick.

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Speaker 1: A lot of handwringing over the lack of an impact

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Speaker 1: it's completely fair that it was my initial reaction as well.

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Speaker 1: But after doing some digging, it seems like, and this

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Speaker 1: was something we were hearing beforehand. To get one of

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Speaker 1: name that just kept coming up in trade discussions was

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Speaker 1: Kate Horton. I don't think anybody that's watched this team

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Speaker 1: regularly would think that that would make sense to give

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Speaker 2: This is this guy is.

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Speaker 1: Critical not just to the future, but he's critical to

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Speaker 1: the present. He may be your number three starter in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, you know, put all the inning stuff and

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Speaker 1: all that to the side. They're clearly managing him. They're

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Speaker 1: being ultra careful, and I think that's thinking about his future,

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Speaker 1: his future beyond twenty twenty six. But or twenty what

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Speaker 1: years it twenty twenty five, but also but also twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five. And you know they're not going to say

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Speaker 1: we need him to impact the team later. They're not

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Speaker 1: going to directly say that, you know, we're saving him

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Speaker 1: for October, but they're they're making sure that they have

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Speaker 2: That's how good he is.

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Speaker 1: I've been you know, he's I'm a strikeouts guy. I

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Speaker 1: want to see pitchers strike guys out. He hasn't fully

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Speaker 1: done that yet, but I think he's getting better and

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Speaker 1: But he's he's blown me.

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Speaker 2: Away with how.

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Speaker 1: Calm and consistent and kind of you know, that bulldog

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Speaker 2: To see from pitchers. He's got it.

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Speaker 3: No doubt. I Mean, he was a total wild card

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Speaker 1: They use more more info than just what we have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely sixty seven pitches yesterday. I think that, look,

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Speaker 1: All right, Patrick, you're scoreboard watching as a Cubs fan,

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Speaker 3: against the Brewers, and so you can they Brewers keep

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Speaker 3: this up? Probably not, But I don't see them like collapsing.

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Speaker 3: You know, They're not just gonna totally fade away, like

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Speaker 3: they may come down, you know, come back to the

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Speaker 3: pack a little bit, and you know the Cubs will

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Speaker 3: obviously have to perform well in those head to head matchups,

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Speaker 3: but the idea of them just tanking in September is

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Speaker 3: is just not realistic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I was gonna say, I remember seeing that

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Speaker 1: when whenever I saw that graphic that the Brewers had

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Speaker 1: like one of the hardest schedules and the Cubs had

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Speaker 1: one of the easiest. And then I looked at the

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Speaker 1: schedule recently and I was like, it doesn't look as

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Speaker 1: hard as what that graphic was insinuating or suggesting.

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Speaker 3: It.

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Speaker 1: Just you're right there, there's something that they're like some

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Speaker 1: of these teams that have decent records right now, they're

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Speaker 1: not as intimidating as they were. The Giants are one

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Speaker 1: of them. I don't know, what the Diamondbacks record is.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's awful. I don't think they're above

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Speaker 1: five hundred right now. Uh, but still they're just not

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Speaker 1: These aren't intimidating teams any longer.

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Speaker 2: And the Cubs, you know, they they have a tough

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Speaker 2: look A yeah, it's probably a tough road trip.

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Speaker 1: You know, going to Saint Louis, doesn't matter how Saint

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Speaker 1: Louis is, it is always tough. And then Toronto's the

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Speaker 1: only team other than the Brewers that has a better

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Speaker 1: record than the Cubs is Toronto and they have to

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Speaker 1: go play there. Look, the Cubs can. The Cubs have

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Speaker 1: to beat good teams. The Cubs have to you know

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Speaker 1: that that's part of it they need and they can

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Speaker 1: beat anyone. I think it's it's what we talked about before.

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Speaker 1: The offense needs to get going and really needs to

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Speaker 1: show that power. The best players need to play like

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Speaker 1: they're the best players. I don't you know, I do

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Speaker 1: think this is when it comes to bad stretches of play.

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Speaker 1: This you'll take this for the Cubs. They're playing around

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Speaker 1: five hundred. Nobody plays, you know, seven hundred ball all

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Speaker 1: season wrong long nobody nobody averages six and a half

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Speaker 1: runs a game. There was a bound to be a moment.

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Speaker 1: What they need to do is make it short. It

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Speaker 1: can't be the two month stretch that it was last year.

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Speaker 1: Can't be that they the past two season. Previous two seasons,

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Speaker 1: they were doing this too often, where we'd see these

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Speaker 1: extended stretches of poor play.

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Speaker 2: They need. The Brewers are on an insane heater. This

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Speaker 2: level of play can't last. I agree with you. I

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Speaker 2: don't think a collapse is coming. I just don't like.

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Speaker 1: They're a really good team, and I don't you can

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Speaker 1: go look at that lineup and say they don't have

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Speaker 1: any stars on this lineup. You can go look at

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Speaker 1: everything about that team and say, where are these superstar

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Speaker 1: impact talents.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: But whatever it is, you know it's working, and it

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Speaker 1: continues to work year after year after year. They find

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Speaker 1: the right players that work in their system, and then

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Speaker 1: they go to another place and they're just not nearly

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Speaker 1: as impactful.

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Speaker 2: So that's that's just.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're they're just a really well run or organization,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not I'm going to stop short changing them.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 1: There's no point in it because they're just an impressive.

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Speaker 1: It's it and uh it's not flashy and it's not

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Speaker 1: and there's nothing you can point to and just say like,

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Speaker 1: well there, that's what it is. It's it's just well,

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Speaker 1: they're good defense, they're speedy, they they you know, they

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Speaker 1: don't hit for a lot of power. And that's the

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Speaker 1: one thing that I think may ultimately cost them in

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Speaker 1: the postseason. But they're going to get there, and they're

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Speaker 1: going to be a torn and ever inside.

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Speaker 2: And I don't I'm not. I'm not giving them this division.

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Speaker 2: It's four games right now.

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Speaker 1: You'd like to see the Cubs be much closer by

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Speaker 1: the time the Brewers come to town. But it's going

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Speaker 1: to be a fun race. I think this is just

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Speaker 1: a down moment for the Cubs. I think they'll get

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Speaker 1: back and make it closer. I have no clue if

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Speaker 1: they can win this division because the Brewer is just,

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Speaker 1: my lord, the way they play, it's every game they're

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Speaker 1: in it. And and they come up with Andrew Vaughn,

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Speaker 1: I think it's probably the poster boy of this all.

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Speaker 1: It's like, what the hell is going on? Quinn Priester

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Speaker 1: and Andrew Vaughn, Like these two guys, it's like they

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Speaker 1: just weren't nearly as good anywhere else, and then they

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Speaker 1: come here. Andrew Vaughn in particular, was just seemed like

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Speaker 1: a wasted draft pick for the White Sox and immediately

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Speaker 1: becomes this impact player.

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Speaker 3: So you know, I mean, if pile Tucker can go

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Speaker 3: through a slump, Andrew can go through a slump too,

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Speaker 3: I guess that would be the that would be the

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Speaker 3: thought process there. And also, you know, they did not

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Speaker 3: exactly blow everyone away with the trade deadline either. Maybe

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Speaker 3: that is a missed opportunity for them. Not that I'm

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Speaker 3: in a position to second guess the Brewers front office,

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Speaker 3: but you look at some of the things, it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: some of these guys will probably recede a little bit.

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Speaker 3: They did not make that they did not go acquire,

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Speaker 3: you know, a CC Sabbathia type deadline reinforcement. Players get injured,

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Speaker 3: Stuff happens, Stuff always happens the Cubs. The Cubs have

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Speaker 3: a chance here, they have their path towards October.

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Speaker 2: But.

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Speaker 3: You know, at a certain point they're just gonna have

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Speaker 3: to beat the Brewers, beat good teams, and really what

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Speaker 3: we've talked about before just finding that next gear, like

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Speaker 3: they have not imploded. They've been good at salvaging series

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Speaker 3: and avoiding sleeps sweeps. But at a certain point you

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Speaker 3: just need a little more. You need more sustained performance

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Speaker 3: at a higher level.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm getting ready. I'm pumped up for that series,

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Speaker 1: that that five game set. The last time I think

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Speaker 1: the Cubs had a five game set in two thousand

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Speaker 1: and three against the Cardinals. Am I remembering this right?

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Speaker 1: I just remember like this huge five game set at

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Speaker 1: Wrigley Field where the Cubs one four or five against

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Speaker 1: the team that they played. It could have been two

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Speaker 1: thousand and three. I could be misremembering their years. It

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Speaker 1: was against the Cardinals. I remember a lot of that.

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Speaker 2: Series. It was a fun series.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully it's close to as entertaining a week from now.

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Speaker 1: But they got six to go three or nine to

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Speaker 1: go three against Saint Louis, three against in Toronto and

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Speaker 1: then Pittsburgh before that five game set with the Brewers.

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Speaker 1: I will have one more episode this week. Patrick is

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Speaker 1: on vacation. Will let him enjoy his time out in

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Speaker 1: the Jersey Shore. You guys can send me some questions

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Speaker 1: and I'll answer them after the first game of the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals series. Thanks for listening everyone, this is Northside Territory.

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Speaker 1: are on top of all things cubs. Thanks for listening,

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