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Speaker 3: It's gandhi and I'm here with my girl Diamond say hello, Hi,

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Speaker 3: I hate your fake I Hi, good morning. That is

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Speaker 3: not what she ever sounds like in real life. In

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Speaker 1: She's like, what do you want? Oh my god, exactly yet.

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Speaker 3: To you, our lovely listener, she says, Hi, do you

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Speaker 3: know what I found out?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 3: So you know? My mom's best friend passed away, very

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Speaker 3: very sad. We went to the funeral services over the weekend,

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Speaker 3: and there were so many people there who said that

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Speaker 3: they listen, and they were quoting different things.

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Speaker 1: Oh there were kids, there.

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Speaker 3: Were adults, And it made me so uncomfortable because I

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Speaker 3: was like, I didn't even think when I was talking

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Speaker 3: all this shit on this podcast that y'all would be

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Speaker 3: the ones listening. But now I have to really think

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Speaker 3: about that the podcast. Yes, Oh no, well you thought

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Speaker 3: the show. I was actually surprised though, because you know,

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Speaker 3: we always say that radio is for like a certain

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Speaker 3: like very young, like high school, still in high school,

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Speaker 3: going into college. Who and actually my little cousin who's seven, who.

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Speaker 1: Are like radio that's so cool. Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: Maybe they're confusing with podcasting. I don't know, but either

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Speaker 3: way that makes me happy. It was kind of cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well now I have to think about what we're saying.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that.

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Speaker 3: Uh okay, No, I'm like I will. I mean, your

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Speaker 3: parents listen all they my dad does? Why is it

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 5: My mom Just it's so funny because during the show

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Speaker 5: I'm just irresponsible.

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Speaker 1: I'm not surprised by that.

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Speaker 5: And she says that, like she never could just go

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Speaker 1: Misses the show. Interesting.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I also told her to stop listening once years ago.

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Speaker 5: It was like my second week on the show, and

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Speaker 1: How dare you?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just weird. I'm like, don't listen. Yes, my

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Speaker 5: When she first started.

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Speaker 3: Listening, she was really critiquing me about the things I

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Speaker 1: I was like, are you kidding?

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Speaker 3: HR?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Do they exist here?

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Speaker 4: I don't?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, who is she? Yes?

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Speaker 3: But also that's what we do, is we make fun

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Speaker 3: I don't think the same rules apply. Also, you literally

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Speaker 3: So now I don't want this feedback. Yes, sorry, I

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Speaker 3: That's hilarious, Oh yeah, and meanwile my dad's like, I

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Speaker 3: He can't hear anything, and he won't put his hearing

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Speaker 3: He asked me one time what butt hurt meant. I

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Speaker 3: He said, I need to explain to me what is

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Speaker 1: So you did not especially, that is a very good

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Speaker 3: It's funny, he's insane. I love people think it's a joke.

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Speaker 3: It is not a joke anyway. I digress. Oh, oh,

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Speaker 3: do you know what I found out?

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Speaker 1: He did? What?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 3: Somehow, some way? And I know it's because he's doing

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Speaker 3: Oh, he somehow got a FaceTime call from somebody he

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Speaker 4: What is this.

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Speaker 3: What is this? I said, Dad, just hang up the phone.

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Speaker 3: He called me right after it happened. Should I call

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Speaker 3: him back? I said, absolutely not, hang up the phone,

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Speaker 3: called T Mobile to report it. I said, who did

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Speaker 1: That's what I said. I said, Oh no, Dad, those

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Speaker 1: people with T Mobile hate you. He said no they don't.

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Speaker 3: They said, thank you so much, sir, we appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: I said, okay, you do your due, diligent citizen. You

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Speaker 3: report every spam call. Oh my god, I want to

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Speaker 3: block him. When he called me about that, I was like,

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Speaker 1: The man is crazy? Like, how do you tell on spammers?

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Speaker 1: Nobody does? They called me.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, the best is one they call from an

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Speaker 1: Mobile steps.

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Speaker 3: I called my sister immediately. I said, do you know

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Speaker 1: This is hilarious. What's her reaction?

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Speaker 3: She said, don't tell me this stuff. He calls you

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Speaker 1: Like, are you kidding? Goodbye?

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Speaker 3: You entertained? She said, you entertained this shit, and that's

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Speaker 1: I wonder if that's why my dad says things to

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Speaker 1: doesn't entertain it. She's just like, wow, daddy, Wow, that's it.

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Speaker 3: She's the older one. Yeah, see, you're with the shits.

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Speaker 3: The youngest ones are with the ships. The oldest ones

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Speaker 1: Are you insane? Please explain? Walk me through this?

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Speaker 5: Like he stole the he stole the Oh you go

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Speaker 5: to Red Lobster, you get shrimp the uh things that

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Speaker 5: they is that what it's called that they put Yes,

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Speaker 5: He took my grandfather out to eat this weekend and

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Speaker 1: Where do you put them in?

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Speaker 5: Back.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, but like three of them come on seriously.

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Speaker 3: So when I used to work at Ruby's Tuesday back

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Speaker 3: still open. That was like the number one most stolen item.

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Speaker 3: People steal ramigans because if you think about it, where

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Speaker 3: do you really buy a ramikin? You can order them

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Speaker 3: order some. But it's just one of those things. We're like,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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Speaker 5: Then he goes all right, pass it to me, like

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Speaker 5: he's like throwing his plate away, and.

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Speaker 1: I had it in my hand.

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Speaker 5: I was like, what the hell is this? He's like,

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Speaker 5: pass it to me. I'm throwing them out anyway.

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Speaker 1: You stole them to throw them out, Henry, Yeah, he's

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Speaker 3: Oh but you can also ordered to go cups so

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Speaker 5: I think he just wanted to be like a criminal

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Speaker 5: for a second and it made him feel good in whatever.

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Speaker 3: And now we're talking about you, Henry Ye, would you

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Speaker 5: Was it? Right?

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Speaker 1: I thought you were just using that as an example.

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Speaker 1: No oh no, see I wasn't smart enough to do that.

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Speaker 1: Red Lobster. Keep your eye out for the Coopers, Oh god, Covin. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's payback, pay back to them.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So today is the episode that we promised you

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Speaker 3: last week with Crystal Kung Min Goff, who I really

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Speaker 3: like m I shouldn't have said that before the interview,

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Speaker 3: because you should make a decision for yourself. Diamond, as

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Speaker 1: Or did it not make any difference?

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Speaker 5: It didn't make a difference. I'm kind of eh on

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Speaker 5: her just as a human being. She seems really nice.

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Speaker 5: The right on her because she didn't bring the drama

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Speaker 5: that I wanted on the show, which you know, it's like,

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Speaker 5: I think that should tell you about who she is

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Speaker 5: as a person.

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Speaker 1: Like you're a good person.

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Speaker 5: You don't really live for the drama the way the

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Speaker 5: other women do.

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Speaker 1: So cool.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well we'll get to the bottom of some of that.

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Speaker 3: Here she is, Hello, Hi, how are you doing good?

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Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. I'm so excited to be here.

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Speaker 3: So there's a lot of stuff to talk to you about, okay,

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Speaker 3: but specifically, we're going to start with the way you'r

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Speaker 3: Housewives of Beverly Hills. Is that how you would like

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Speaker 3: to be remembered or memorialized on your Wikipedia page.

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Speaker 1: It's so funny. Before I started the show, I was like,

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Speaker 1: oh God, that's my biggest nightmare to be remembered by that.

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Speaker 1: But now that I'm, you know, on this side of it,

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Speaker 1: And like you're it? And I said to my husband like,

440
00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,800
Speaker 1: if I don't say yes, that is one less Asian

441
00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,399
Speaker 1: person who's going to be on TV for representation. And

442
00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,480
Speaker 1: I remember I had the weight of the world on

443
00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,480
Speaker 1: my shoulders. I was so stressed out, but I also

444
00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,800
Speaker 1: felt like it was vital. My mom like locked herself

445
00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,879
Speaker 1: in her house for three weeks because they were just

446
00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,840
Speaker 1: randomly attacking Asian people at that time, and I just

447
00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,440
Speaker 1: felt this kind of the universe was pushing me at

448
00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,840
Speaker 1: this time. I think I said yes, it was like

449
00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,119
Speaker 1: the world brought it to me at the right time.

450
00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:38,800
Speaker 1: In terms of the friends. I hope not. I hope

451
00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,960
Speaker 1: not that that was the reason. I'm going to just

452
00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,000
Speaker 1: lean into that that that's not what it was, because

453
00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,879
Speaker 1: that would be too devastating. I mean, I just feel

454
00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:50,040
Speaker 1: like it was based on them, just you know, putting

455
00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,320
Speaker 1: being outside the box of what they wanted from me

456
00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:56,720
Speaker 1: or expected from me. But yeah, their business. But you

457
00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,840
Speaker 1: think that, you think that, But yeah, no, people they

458
00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,840
Speaker 1: show their true colors when things like this happen, and

459
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:05,800
Speaker 1: you just have to respond to that.

460
00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,840
Speaker 3: You're very well put together for the wild ride, I

461
00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,679
Speaker 3: would imagine it was over. I don't really want to

462
00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,840
Speaker 3: do this. Holy crap, I'm on this ride now and

463
00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 3: everything's happening. How do you feel you represented yourself and

464
00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:21,000
Speaker 3: the Asian culture?

465
00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:25,879
Speaker 1: Wow? Well, I try not to have regrets, but I

466
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,800
Speaker 1: do look back on wishing I was more outspoken and

467
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,000
Speaker 1: less scared. But I did have a lot of that

468
00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 1: fear influence on me. I think saying yes to begin

469
00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,919
Speaker 1: with was already a lot as a Chinese person. But

470
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,960
Speaker 1: I remember telling the producers, I said, it's so important

471
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,920
Speaker 1: that I get to share my culture on the show.

472
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 1: That's why I did making Dumpling Nights, I hosted Chinese

473
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,199
Speaker 1: New Year. They allowed all those moments for me, and

474
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,480
Speaker 1: I just like because they always, you know, they always

475
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,600
Speaker 1: wanted to really fancy so like, what about your chef,

476
00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I don't have a chef. I on

477
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,240
Speaker 1: the show cold Dumbling. That's why I'm actually a chef,

478
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,439
Speaker 1: so like that's what I do. And my first event

479
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,120
Speaker 1: was dumpling making in my kitchen, very casual, but I said,

480
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 1: this is who I am as a real person, and

481
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 1: it's really important. I'm going to do all the other

482
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,440
Speaker 1: stuff that you need me to do, but like if

483
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 1: I can have these couple things like that would be

484
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 1: really great. And then they let me have my first

485
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 1: year the finale party, which was a big deal. They

486
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 1: don't usually do finales for first time cast members, and

487
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 1: I got to close it out with Chinese New Year

488
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,160
Speaker 1: and that was really special and all the girls there

489
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,919
Speaker 1: was a lot of inviting per usual, but they were

490
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 1: so respectful. It was like my mom was there, Marshall

491
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,840
Speaker 1: her boyfriend was there, and I just said, like, this

492
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 1: is really really special for me, and if you guys

493
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 1: could just show up in a way that's you're not

494
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:48,479
Speaker 1: going to ruin it.

495
00:21:50,240 --> 00:22:00,400
Speaker 4: And yeah, I thought it was great.

496
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 3: So when you say you were sort of operating under

497
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,679
Speaker 3: some fear, what what were you scared of?

498
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,679
Speaker 1: I think you know, being Asian, it's you want to

499
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 1: represent not you know, it's not just about you, it's

500
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 1: about your kids, your family, your parents, your grandparents, and

501
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 1: then beyond that, it's the whole community, right being Chinese

502
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 1: being yeah, yes, and like I wanted to be perfect

503
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 1: for everybody. I wanted them to feel proud of what

504
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 1: they're seeing. And what's scary is that it's a show

505
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 1: that's not necessarily designed to make you look good. Oh

506
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,120
Speaker 1: I don't think so, right, so, you know, but it

507
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 1: was It's not like I was an actress, had other opportunities.

508
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,199
Speaker 1: It just kind of came to me and it just

509
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 1: felt like this was my moment to do this. But

510
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 1: I really, really, you know, I really worked hard to

511
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,880
Speaker 1: try and represent properly. But it took such an emotional

512
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 1: toll on me because my husband was like, you are

513
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 1: not every Chinese person. You are. There are a billion

514
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: of there's them, correct, And he's like he was my guide,

515
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 1: you know, they're this whole thing. And he's like, there's

516
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 1: just you. You're a singular person. You happen to be Chinese,

517
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 1: you happen to be very much ingrained in your culture,

518
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: and you have I'm a Jewish man. We have half

519
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: Jewish kids and Chinese kids, and like this is who

520
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 1: we are, and like you just can represent yourself, be yourself,

521
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,919
Speaker 1: and that's it. And I'm like, okay, of course that

522
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: was like I don't know if I took you the advice,

523
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 1: but I tried and that was really helpful. But yeah,

524
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 1: I mean I really had the weight of the world

525
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 1: on my shoulders and that's on me. I mean that

526
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 1: was just my personal feeling. But no, I mean I'm

527
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 1: overall happy. I just wish I was louder, okay, stronger.

528
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 3: You have a podcast and you have a chance to

529
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 3: be as loud as you want to. Yeah, anytime you

530
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 3: want to, that's right. What made you leave the show?

531
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 1: Well, it was just time for on both sides. But

532
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 1: I you know, that's it. It was just time.

533
00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, I don't I will. They're gonna have

534
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 3: to drag me out of here, even if they tell

535
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 3: me like it's time. So I'm always impressed when people

536
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 3: make a decision for themselves.

537
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,199
Speaker 1: Well, it wasn't me. It was a conversation. It was

538
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 1: definitely like I was heading into the four my fourth season,

539
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: and it was a few conversations with the network and

540
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: the producers, and ultimately it just didn't work out. And

541
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 1: that's where I am. That was the close of that chapter, but.

542
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 3: It has sent you on a path that you are

543
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 3: interested in pursuing. Yes, which is your cocoa water, cocoa real.

544
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: Real coco, real, coca real coca. But I've had real

545
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: coca for thirteen years. Oh so well before this, well

546
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 1: before okay, yeah, did it get a little boost from

547
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: so I will say, you know, I was actually very

548
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: protective of the brand, so I didn't show it too much.

549
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: I would you know, the girls wanted to drink it.

550
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: They were very interested in the brand. They would drink it.

551
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: Other than that, we did not chow it at all

552
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 1: because it had been an established brand for ten years,

553
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: and you know, you have to be careful, like there's

554
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 1: like house brands and there's real brands, and I just

555
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: wasn't quite sure where it was going to go. And

556
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 1: I have a team investors. I mean, it's a company.

557
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: So but yeah, I would say it's really fun to

558
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 1: like I always wanted it to be a name brand,

559
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 1: and so the show definitely people were like they started

560
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: to make the connection, but no, I didn't bring it

561
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 1: on the show.

562
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 3: What I think is interesting is you have this successful

563
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 3: company for a decade and you're labeled a housewife.

564
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 1: What in the hell. It's very odd. Yeah, But I

565
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 1: think what people don't really realize, and the girls don't

566
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: get enough credit, is that it really is a career.

567
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 1: Being a housewife is not just a housewife. And I really,

568
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 1: despite whatever issues I had with some of the women

569
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: and we were not aligned necessarily in our values or whatever,

570
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: all of them work very hard. It is a full

571
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 1: time job and they deserve every penny they make because

572
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 1: it's really hard. It seems like it. Yeah, it's a job.

573
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: Social media on its own, people should be paid to

574
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: deal with the abuse. Yeah, I say from personal experience,

575
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: it's wild. It is wild.

576
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 3: Are you just sitting there?

577
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: Like, are you kidding me? What is going on right now?

578
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 3: I say all the time, I will block the shit

579
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 3: out of hell. Yeah, because my page is not a democracy.

580
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 1: It is a dictator, that's right.

581
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 2: And if you.

582
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 3: Are not one of my people, get.

583
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: Out of here. It's crazy. Like, don't they have jobs. No,

584
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: I don't even do it. I want to do what

585
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 1: they're doing. They have all the time to come at

586
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: me like I want your.

587
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 3: Job, also, like you're coming at me. There's so much

588
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 3: other stuff to be coming out at the moment.

589
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: Yes, and you.

590
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 3: Right, please, what is the rest of your life? Like yeah,

591
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 3: andrew your other questions, do.

592
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 6: You feel like anxious before going to certain scenes? Like

593
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 6: if you know, like O, yes, they're going to bring this.

594
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: Up, you answer yes that I'm tilling. My girlfriends have

595
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 1: to like pep talk me like you walk in knowing

596
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: what it's going to be about. It's not random because

597
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: you know to show oh right, and so whatever topic

598
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: it was yesterday, it's still the same topic. Right. It's

599
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: because there's a through line, right, and no one's saying

600
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: it's a through line. You just know that. Like if

601
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 1: someone was finding yesterday, we have to ask, or if

602
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: you weren't there, like you're asking what happened? You know, No,

603
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 1: even if it's not about me, I'm like so stressed out,

604
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 1: like oh my god, I have to ask them why

605
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: did that is happening? Like it's not normal to do that,

606
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: you know, But you got to move story along because

607
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 1: then you would just be watching hours of people sitting

608
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 1: there not talking right, or just talking about their kids

609
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 1: like no one cares, you know, reasonable yeah, reasonable, yeah,

610
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: like normal conversations. So yes, it was highly stressful. I

611
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: actually loved hosting because then you kind of like get

612
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: in there without like I'm sorry, I have to go

613
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: get the chicken. And I remember my first year because

614
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: I went to culinary school and so like food is

615
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,719
Speaker 1: my thing, and I became sort of the in house bartender.

616
00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: So I would just like, do you guys want to drink?

617
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: I'm just make everyone drinks. And the producer came around

618
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 1: to me, he goes, I know exactly what you're doing.

619
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 1: This is your last drink of the season. You cannot

620
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: make one more. Get back on the couch and get

621
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: in there. I'm like, okay, So I was like the

622
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: slowest drink I've ever made in my life. But yes,

623
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: it's so stressful, it's so scary.

624
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 6: Uh like retrain your brain afterwards, So like, okay, I'm

625
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 6: in like a safe spot. This is just a dinner.

626
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 6: Like I trust you, we're good. We're not gonna argue tonight.

627
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: Okay, So that's adorable, and no, you can never not

628
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: fight and so no, so now you can retrain your

629
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: brain all you want, but you won't get to walk

630
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: away not having it out. And it doesn't have to

631
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: be a big blowout. It just something needs to be

632
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: put on the table. And I just don't want to

633
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: be the one to do that, except if it's a drink.

634
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 5: You know.

635
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 3: So post filming, though, how long does it take you

636
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 3: to kind of decompress and get back to Hey, this

637
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 3: is my real life and I'm not going into this

638
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 3: dinner about to fight with someone or throw a drink

639
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 3: whatever it is.

640
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: Well, I didn't do that off camera even when I

641
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: was filming it. I seem like a drink thrower. I'm not.

642
00:28:58,320 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 4: I am.

643
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: I'm really I'm really cheap, So I would never like

644
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: waste a drink. Yeah, I would not, you know, it

645
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: isn't really we laugh out loud. It's okay, I'm very

646
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: very cheap, she was pointing at her public. Yes, I'm

647
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: very cheap and yeah, so yeah, no, you know what.

648
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: That was my first year because it was COVID. I

649
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: couldn't see my friends. You know, we were very much

650
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: like a bubble on the show because they didn't want

651
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: you getting you know, we had a film every day,

652
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: so you can't like go and decompress with your friends.

653
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: So that that first season felt very stressful for me

654
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: because it's all I had. It was like filming and

655
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: then I go home to nothing like my family but

656
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: it was like lockdown. And then after I ended up

657
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: going out so much more like we'd literally finish a

658
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: dinner scene and I text my friends like meet me out,

659
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: to meet me out right now, because I needed to

660
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: see them to feel like, Okay, this is normal. Yeah

661
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: that was not normal. So I think my problem was

662
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: that I separated them so much. And I think the

663
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: producers are like, we really need you, like this is

664
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: all one real life moment for you. I'm like, well, no,

665
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: I need to like I don't do that, I do this.

666
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: But then towards the end, I was blending because it

667
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: takes time to get to know the girls. So for

668
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: me it was just more of like opening up to

669
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: them and getting to know them. But for me when

670
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: it was all over, when I didn't go back for

671
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: my fourth season, I would say it was two weeks

672
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: of like what is happening? And then that was it.

673
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: I know for most girls it's a lot longer of

674
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: a transition. I think it becomes their whole life.

675
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 3: Oh, we know some people that it is their whole life. Yeah,

676
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 3: even when they're not doing whatever show they're doing, Yeah,

677
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 3: and they're talking to you, you're kind.

678
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: Of like, eh, yeah, yeah, what is this? What are

679
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: you sending me? It's happening right now. It's becomes your

680
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: life in it. But I'm, like I said, I was

681
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: able to separate that that this is something that I'm experiencing,

682
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: and so I got to just kind of jump back

683
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: into my normal life, which is really like being a

684
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: mom and driving the kids to sports and stuff. And

685
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: I didn't do that for a couple of years, and

686
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: they weren't really used to that, Like they were very sad,

687
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: like where are you? You know? And my kids would say,

688
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: can you get a regular job? Like why I actually

689
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: have a regular job. You just didn't know because you're

690
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: at school, and like now my job is like going

691
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: out to dinner. It's like they didn't really get it

692
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: because they never seen the show. So yeah's just going

693
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: back to like the hustle of my regular life, which

694
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: is very busy, but I love.

695
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 3: I have to say, I've had a few housewives through here,

696
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 3: and we encounter them all the time because we live

697
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 3: in New York.

698
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: New Jersey.

699
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 3: It seems to me that you're just too hinged to

700
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 3: be doing like of all of them. I genuinely I'm

701
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 3: not just saying this because you're here right now. I

702
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 3: would want to hang out with you the most.

703
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: You're so sie.

704
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 3: This seems like you seem like a very fun, well versed, cultured,

705
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 3: well read person who can separate the two and have

706
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 3: a good time. But still, you know, show up and

707
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 3: do what you need to do and then get out

708
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 3: of there.

709
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: I don't think that works for them, but maybe that's

710
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: why they're great housewives. You know, Unhinged is fun to watch.

711
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: And I always say, if you had eight of me,

712
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: you would have like Shark Tank or something like it

713
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: would be like not being out Lives, you know, it's

714
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: my favorite show. Yeah, there we go. If anyone out there,

715
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: you know, I would love to do Shark Tank. But

716
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: do you have a business that you're trying to get

717
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: out there? Well, you know real Coco's already there, So

718
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: maybe I'll just create ones be on the show. But

719
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: thank you for saying that, And I think that, yeah.

720
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: I always say that, like that's I have to give

721
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: flowers when it's due. And like those iconic housewives, I

722
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: imagine like they're so big it's because they're probably just

723
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: really hinged. Yeah, and they really you're not wasting it,

724
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,719
Speaker 1: that's right, that's boring, you know. So I think that

725
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: the ones that go all in, I can see how

726
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: it becomes their whole world. I'm also I've been with

727
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: Rob for twenty two years. Like I've I've sort of

728
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: been married to like watching the business. I've never been

729
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: in it at all. I just was like on the

730
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: arm of it. But I think that helped me gain

731
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: more perspective heading in. I like, I think when you

732
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: become a house like the sort of the average trajectory

733
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: is like you just jump in and you're like, you

734
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: don't know what's going to look like. I spent so

735
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: much time researching and I watched the show, but I

736
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: watched with different eyes. I talked to my husband's agent,

737
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: I talked to it. I mean, like, I really did

738
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: a lot of research and prep work, which why I

739
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: think I was so timid and scared the hinged. Yeah,

740
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: I'm just h tightly wound, my husband would say. But yeah,

741
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: but that was just that's who I am. You know,

742
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: I'm a super free spirit. I'm super open when I'm comfortable. Obviously,

743
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: I'm very relaxed here. This is really like something I

744
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: love to do. I love podcasts, I love chatting, but

745
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: because you're not gonna like yell at me about something.

746
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 3: So well maybe yeah, maybe, well I don't know, but

747
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 3: you're the one that gets all the yelling when we

748
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 3: talk about hinged versus unhinged.

749
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: This man is unhinged. Well, maybe he'd be the next

750
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: house site. He'd be great at that.

751
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 3: He'd just put up a little sign at his cubicle

752
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 3: that says a bully free zone or no bully zone.

753
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: What is it?

754
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 6: It's bullyfree zone.

755
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 3: Immediately immediately by Diamond. By the way, would you do

756
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 3: reality TV again?

757
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: Okay, so I do get this question, and my initial

758
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: is like no, just say no. But if I said

759
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: no from the start to do Housewives, I wouldn't be

760
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: able to be sitting here and having my own platform now.

761
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: And so you know what, I never say never. I

762
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: just don't. That's not what I'm aiming for. But that's

763
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 1: not what I'm looking for.

764
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 3: And there's all kinds of different reality TV. It could be,

765
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 3: you know, like a physical challenge type thing.

766
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: It's survivor The Traders Love Traders? Do you love Traders?

767
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 1: Because I'm really like in term my brain is like

768
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: like I think I would be really gone on Traders yeah, yeah,

769
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: let's put it into the universe right now.

770
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 3: Then if that's what you want to do, right I

771
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 3: I think I would only do well on Traders if

772
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 3: I immediately got chosen to be a trader.

773
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: Really I need to be a trader. I feel like

774
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: being a trader would feel less stressful in the beginning. Yeah,

775
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: but I think going into the season every day would

776
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: get harder, every hour, get harder to keep that lie up.

777
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: But I think initially it would feel like more grounding

778
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 1: because you know what's going on. But then as you know,

779
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,919
Speaker 1: when you watch, you see like traders turn on each

780
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: other and da da dah. It's like it's such a gameplay.

781
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: But I love it. You know, the show is based

782
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: on villagers and wolves, which is just a fun game

783
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: at home, and it's like someone closes their eyes and

784
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: there's always like a mafia. It's like mafia. Okay, yeah,

785
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: so I play those my friends. So then when I

786
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: saw the show, was like, oh, they stole my show,

787
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: Like I love this show totally. But if we're putting

788
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: things into the universe, yes, I don't. I never think

789
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 1: is reality. But I did go to culinary school, and

790
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: so a food show, a travel show like that is,

791
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: I would say that I would be leaning towards intentionally.

792
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: Do you want to host it? Or do you want

793
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: to compete? Like could you do chopped?

794
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 5: Yeah?

795
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 2: I could?

796
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: You could?

797
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think in my head I could do it

798
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 3: all the time. And then they present like a flower,

799
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 3: I'm I.

800
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 2: Going to cook that.

801
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: You could do it? You could do it. I don't

802
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: even know what this one item is the protein? What

803
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 1: is that? Is it like a clam? Is it a snail?

804
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, So I went to culinary school

805
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: when I was in my late twenties just for fun.

806
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: I just did it because I just loved food, and

807
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: what's a school for fun? I just did I would

808
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: So I went to a French culinary school. And what

809
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: I loved about it was it wasn't like you just

810
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: learned French recipes. It's and I was a science major.

811
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: I was a biology major. And it's really the science

812
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: of food is culinary school. That's how I read it.

813
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: So it's like, here is your protein, here's your heat source,

814
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: here's your liquiord or dry, and this is what equates

815
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: to it's literally a science project. All the flavors, all

816
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: that stuff, is really just like that's your art. If

817
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 1: you want to make it tie, you're going to use

818
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: cafir lime and you're going to use basil and stuff

819
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: like that. If you want to do Mexican, you're going

820
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: to use those ingredients. But it's really a science of

821
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: heat source and how to apply it to a protein

822
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: or vegetable and then what comes out of it.

823
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,479
Speaker 3: You make it sound so reasonable, I will in that kitchen.

824
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: Is that way too, Hitch?

825
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 3: It is The level of hingedness that comes out of

826
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 3: you is wild. I want to touch on something that

827
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 3: you said really quickly. You said you've been with Rob

828
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 3: for twenty two years.

829
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

830
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: Crazy means you saw the Lion King as a little

831
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: kid too.

832
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 3: I did, how long were you guys dating before you

833
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 3: found out that he directed it?

834
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: Okay? So he hates so wat we talk about it

835
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: because it just like ages him and like, you know,

836
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: because I meant him when I was twenty okay, Yeah,

837
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: because I just forty two. Okay, so it's I met

838
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: him May tenth, So May tenth will be twenty two

839
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: years wow? Okay? Yeah? And I knew immediately because I

840
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: went to a birthday party at his studios and it

841
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 1: was like flex, yeah. Yeah, he was saying a birthday

842
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: party for friend, and my girlfriends knew the birthday boy. Okay,

843
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: And so I was in college. We just went to

844
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: this party thinking anything like meeting anybody. I was in college.

845
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: I was like a student, you know. And he had

846
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: this giant Chuck Jones poster of Bugs Bunny on his

847
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 1: like huge, like wall size, and and I just kind

848
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 1: of started talking about it. But it was an animation studio,

849
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 1: so like I just and he was the director and owner,

850
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: so I just knew that's him. I don't know if

851
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 1: he said lyon King that night because he was Oh

852
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: he was directing. Oh my god, this is ironic. He

853
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: was directed Haunted Mansion. Oh wow, that was in production

854
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: with Jennifer Tilley. Okay, so there's all that together. But

855
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: I found out pretty immediately. But this is a funny

856
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: tibit which he hates me sharing because again it's like

857
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: in so embarrassing for him. So Jonathan Taylor Thomas was

858
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: the voice of Simba yep, and he was at my school.

859
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: He's a year older, but he was my biology partner

860
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 1: in high school.

861
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 3: He was like every girl's drive in the mid nineties.

862
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure he had the middle page of every magazine.

863
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: He was dating this girl, Nikki, who's a year older,

864
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 1: like tall, blonde, gorgeous, like the whole thing, like supermodel.

865
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: But it's so funny because I looked at him, like,

866
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 1: oh my god, that's like Simba. He still went to school?

867
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 4: Was that?

868
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 5: Yeah?

869
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 1: He would go to s Yeah, I think he was.

870
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: Was it Home Improvement? So yeah, a lot of kids would.

871
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: It's la right, like kids are celebrity kids, so they

872
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: would go whatever film or whatever and then come back

873
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: to school. But I was not in that, so I

874
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: just knew he left. So he was always like away

875
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: during like lab work, what a shitty partner? Was he

876
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: good at biology? Yeah? Aside from the fact that he

877
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: might be lying about this, but I think he went

878
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: to Harvard? Oh so he probably maybe was he went

879
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: to Harvard or ye, he's something like that. Let's all

880
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: ask Siri. See I did totally make it up, and like, Siri.

881
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 3: Where did Jonathan Taylor Thomas go to college?

882
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 2: Harvard? See?

883
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: Yes, Oh my god, how many schools does this man attend?

884
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: He's super smart?

885
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 3: Harvard University, the University of State Andrews in Scotland, and Columbia.

886
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's really smart. My god, guy, I know you're

887
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 1: never Yeah, well he's simbas I gotta something. So okay,

888
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: so you're he your husband doesn't love you to talk

889
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 1: about that fact, but I find it faster.

890
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 3: I think it's also what an amazing flex again I directed.

891
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: It's just so many funny it is King, Oh the King.

892
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's Did he have any thoughts on a live

893
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 3: action version?

894
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 5: He did.

895
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: He hated as much as I did. No, no, no,

896
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: And it was really you know, John Favreaux directed it,

897
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: and he did a great job with the Jungle Book

898
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: Lion King. He did great, and he brought Robin and

899
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: they had you know, he asked Rob his advice and

900
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: he was great about it, and he really wanted to,

901
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 1: you know, keep the essence of Rob's original storytelling, and

902
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: that you did.

903
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 5: Okay.

904
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: You know, Rob is also very much like that's no

905
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: longer my project, you know, like amazing I built these characters,

906
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: and you know, we were at the Mufassa premiere and

907
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 1: he's watching. He goes, oh, so they're not actually brothers.

908
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: That's not how I built them. Spoiler alert, I haven't

909
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: seen it. You go figure this out. Okay, sorry, but

910
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: you know he's also like, that's not how I envisioned.

911
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: That's not who the characters were in my mind. But

912
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: it's no longer my character, you know, Like he's very

913
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: much like this is very very zen, very hinge together geez,

914
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: because I'd be like, how dare you? This is my pet?

915
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: He might internally, but with me, he's pretty hiny with me,

916
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, that would make sense. Why you've been together

917
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: for a while.

918
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, how old are your kids?

919
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 1: Zoe's ten, Max's twelve. Little, that's little to me. It's

920
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: like they're little, you know, their babies. Yeah, yeah, so

921
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: let's talk about your podcasts. Yeah, how excited are you?

922
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 1: I love it. I've been working on it for two years,

923
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 1: the idea of it, and I really felt like this

924
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 1: space was right for me because I just always felt comfortable.

925
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 1: And I thought about it because I was filming a

926
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: show in a space that I felt uncomfortable. So I

927
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: was like, I knew there was something out there for

928
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: me that made more sense. But when you're filming, it's

929
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 1: just it's so much work that it's hard to sort

930
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: of navigate something like this and start it. Also, I

931
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: was like I didn't. I knew I would have to

932
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: like talk about the show in real time, and I

933
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: was already like, so I didn't want to talk about

934
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: even more to film it. So I was like, and

935
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: once I went home, I wanted to wash it off.

936
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 1: So I wasn't going to start a podcast and talk

937
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: about it. And so that's why, you know, when when

938
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 1: I started it, I asked Cynthia to be my partner.

939
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: Who She's like blowing up my phone right, I'm like,

940
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 1: leave me alone. I love you, Sonthia, this is my time. Yeah, exactly.

941
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: It was fun. I was like, didn't think I would

942
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: invite a friend who was a housewife, but Cynthia is

943
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,240
Speaker 1: just way beyond that for me. She is my friend,

944
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: my confidant, and someone that I really like called and

945
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: used to help me through my experience. And so I'm like, oh,

946
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: we really have a lot of history together and the

947
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 1: people don't know that. And you know, she's like very

948
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: successful model, like huge model and actor, and she lives

949
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: really kind of a fun la life and that was

950
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: really the idea of it. You know, Beverly Hills Housewives

951
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: is sort of the glossy version, but I like, I

952
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: live it in real life. But in what I think

953
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: is just but it's actually my life, you know, in

954
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: an everyday way. And it's really fun because I think

955
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 1: Cynthia does as well, and we've got to just share

956
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: stories that we go through. They just happen to randomly

957
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: have like a celebrity involved or something. But we're just

958
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: moms at the end of the day, and we're just

959
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: hustlers at the end of the day, and we're just

960
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: trying to figure it out and it's just really fun.

961
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: I love it. It's like therapy for me.

962
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 3: I see what it's called humble brag because you're like,

963
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,959
Speaker 3: you know, it's just everyday life. We have a fun story,

964
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 3: maybe there's a celebrity. Do you want to tell me

965
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 3: one of your most favorite encounters that happen to have

966
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 3: a celebrity in it.

967
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 1: I'll think about the most recent.

968
00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 4: Uh.

969
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 1: I went to that because it's Oscar season, so there's

970
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: all those you know, there's a lot of screeners and

971
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: a lot of panels. So this was last year and

972
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: I went to the Color Purple to see it and

973
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 1: Octavia Spencer, who was in Rob's movie, invited us. She

974
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: was hosting the panel and I and Fantasia was there

975
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: and I walk up and I'm like, I was like

976
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 1: a little like high, and she's like looking at me.

977
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: Her eyes get big, and then I knew she was

978
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: looking at me because she knew who I was. I go, no,

979
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: please don't tell me, you know wh I am. She's like,

980
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: I watch all of them, and we just it was

981
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 1: so funny because she got so excited, and Rob's looking

982
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: at me like like his head, he doesn't get who

983
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: watches the show, so he's like Fantasia watching it. I'm like, well,

984
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: she has a reality start a lot of ways, you know.

985
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: So that was really fun because then now I'm like,

986
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 1: getting to talk to Fantasio, I think is so brilliant,

987
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: especially in that movie talking about a very unhinged television

988
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,479
Speaker 1: show that I was on. So that was really fun.

989
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 3: So that's what we're gonna get from your podcast stories

990
00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 3: like this. Yes, do you ever have guests come on?

991
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: We do?

992
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 4: We do.

993
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: We just had Denise Richards on last week. I knew

994
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: Denise before the show, but we talked about it'll be

995
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: out I think next week. But we talk about sort

996
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:16,919
Speaker 1: of our experiences pre and post show and just life

997
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: in Hollywood, and you know, our mutual friends, and that's

998
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: really what it is, like, it's girlfriends chatting about our

999
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: lives just kind of in Hollywood. In Hollywood. Yeah, but

1000
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: we're also normal. But it is normal.

1001
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,919
Speaker 3: I know it's normal for people in Hollywood. For us,

1002
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 3: that's not normal. So I would definitely listen to this,

1003
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 3: right right, Andrew, do you have more questions?

1004
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 6: Do you think that people put on a certain lifestyle

1005
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 6: to show on television that's not necessarily their real life?

1006
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: Do you think they do it on social media?

1007
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 6: Absolutely?

1008
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 1: Then yes, absolutely, yes.

1009
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 3: So we say all the time, you get a little

1010
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 3: snippet of who people are and then you think you

1011
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 3: know everything. I'm guilty of it too. Yeah, there are

1012
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 3: celebrities that I'm like, I know everything about this word No,

1013
00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 3: I don't.

1014
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: Well that's well, that's the beauty of the podcast, right,

1015
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 1: like I don't. None of Housewives is fake, you know,

1016
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: it's just a snippet though, because there's only so much

1017
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,760
Speaker 1: time you could show, and they don't have the time

1018
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: to show an entire personality and my whole life of what.

1019
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 1: They don't want to see me driving to baseball that's

1020
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: not that interesting. They want to see the glamour and

1021
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: all this stuff. Which exists too. So that's what's the

1022
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: beauty about this podcast. It's the whole thing. I get

1023
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: so many messages like how come we didn't see this

1024
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: side of you, and like, well, I don't control that, right,

1025
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 1: this is who I am and it's really fun. I

1026
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: feel like the response has been great, and like Cynthia

1027
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: is literally like everyboday like who are you? Like You're

1028
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 1: you just are always coming out out of nowhere and

1029
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, I get to just be myself and it's

1030
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: really nice to just do that without we don't. Our

1031
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: whole thing is not to like go after someone. We're

1032
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: all positive. We talk about the show, we talk about

1033
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: you know, like our relationships with the people and Bravo.

1034
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: But we're not out to get anybody. That's that's not

1035
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: our vibe at all.

1036
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 3: Has there been any accidental uh shit storring because of that?

1037
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 3: I didn't expect. Yes, I was actually expecting. You know

1038
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 3: what happened.

1039
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. I'm not. I'm not sure coding anything.

1040
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 1: I'm but I'm not making it salacious to be silacious,

1041
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: you know, So I just tell stories. And I did

1042
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 1: get a call from an ex cast member, and not

1043
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: a call very intense text, but we have since made up.

1044
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 1: We ran into each other and they're humble at Paris

1045
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: Fashion Week and it went very well. Okay. I was

1046
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 1: not expecting to see this person and it went very

1047
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: very well, and I'm very happy about it. So okay, good. Yeah,

1048
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: but that's what happens, you know, because I'm not there

1049
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: lying about a story. I'm just there to tell a story.

1050
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: Like why did you tell a story? Like, I don't

1051
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: know just because it happens my wife. I'm just telling stories.

1052
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 3: Sorry, I actually said a fact about what was going on.

1053
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 3: So you're liking it, You're going to continue with.

1054
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: Podcast for a while, I hope. So yeah, where can

1055
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: people find it if they want to listen? Where you

1056
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: can hear all podcasts? We're us on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts.

1057
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: We were I Heard Radio app, iHeart Radio app, I

1058
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: Heart Radio app. We were Apple's top ten new podcasts

1059
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: when we came out, so that was super exciting. Thank you.

1060
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1061
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: I think people just want to hear real stories. It

1062
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 1: feels very I think bts of a housewive show. That's

1063
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: really what I was like. It's the real real housewife

1064
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: to me.

1065
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 3: Okay, so you might have just picked up two new listeners.

1066
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 3: I left it on my right Diamond and Andrew, because

1067
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 3: I think that's what they're really into.

1068
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: Well, I would listen to the fourteen Friends one because

1069
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: if you're really interest in Beverly Hills. I think that

1070
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: was such an elusive sort of topic because we couldn't

1071
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: really talk. Well, I guess we could have, but I

1072
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: don't think they would have aired it. But I really

1073
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 1: dive deep into the details of that and super cathartic

1074
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: for me because I held it in. It's almost five

1075
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: years when that happened, when I Yeah, so.

1076
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 3: I'm still surprised that some of them haven't circled back

1077
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 3: and reached out, like you know what, but.

1078
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: It's probably all at better.

1079
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think it's that, you know, relationships have, you know

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Speaker 1: their time limits sometimes, and that was it for me,

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Speaker 1: So the reason in the season. Yeah, yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 3: So Instagram, they can find you at Crystal Cone mink

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Speaker 3: Off where Andrew really enjoyed your cucumber pickle recipes.

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Speaker 6: Call it it's the infamous cucumber, the infamous crystal cucumbers.

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Speaker 1: That I do love that you win. I love that

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Speaker 1: you said pickles because it's so for good, buddy. But yes,

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Speaker 1: I am very proud of that recipe. It's so funny

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Speaker 1: because it's such a humble Chinese dish and it's literal cooking,

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Speaker 1: it's lois assembly, and it really like took off went

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Speaker 1: viral and I'm saying it's like if you typed in crystal.

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Speaker 1: The next search was crystal cucumber, and which I again

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Speaker 1: is very proud cucumbers. I don't know. And because I'm obsessed,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm obsessed with is Hilaria oh Baldwin? Yes, Okay,

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Speaker 1: So I really used that video a lot to be like,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, how do you say, like so awesome? How

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Speaker 1: you say in English cucumber cucumber? I was like, this

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Speaker 1: bitch is crazy. Oh my god, it's incredible.

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Speaker 3: But also, can we talk about your your company, Really

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Speaker 3: Real Coco.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you can find us online at enjoy Realcoco dot

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Speaker 1: com and on Instagram. We're a nationwide costco, nationwide, smart

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Speaker 1: and final. You really can fine it everywhere you can

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Speaker 1: find it online. We have a range of organic coconut water,

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Speaker 1: coconut milks. I'm just really proud of it. Most our

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Speaker 1: farms are all in Thailand and Vietnam. We bought the source,

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Speaker 1: and I mean it's just a perfectly clean brand and

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Speaker 1: that was really important to us, just having clean, pure

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Speaker 1: coconut water, nothing added, nothing taken out. And yeah, well

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Speaker 1: guess what.

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Speaker 3: Someone to my right, Andrew just got a Costco membership.

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Speaker 3: He's headed over there to get this right now.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I love it. We're getting it, and it's really good,

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Speaker 1: you know, put in the fridge, it's great, chilled, it's

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Speaker 1: super high, and it's just people call it like coconut water,

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Speaker 1: like nature's gatorade.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, there's no sugar, you know, it's natural. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: I hope you enjoy.

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Speaker 3: It, you know, talking about reality shows every time they're

1121
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Speaker 3: digging for water in these places on like, you dumb asses,

1122
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 3: there are coconuts around. You get the coconuts so much

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Speaker 3: better than whatever is about to happen down there.

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Speaker 1: Don't do that.

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Speaker 3: But also you can find real coca. Is there an

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Speaker 3: Instagram page for that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's at enjoyrealcocoa dot com. Okay, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for joining. Thank you. Okay, I really liked her.

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Speaker 3: I thought she had a lot of interesting things to say.

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Speaker 3: I would definitely want to be friends with her. She's beautiful.

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Speaker 3: She got her own business, and she said it's a

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Speaker 3: real business.

1133
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Speaker 1: It is. It's not a housewife.

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Speaker 5: It's not a housewife business. I'm trying to think of

1135
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 5: any other housewife that has a real business.

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Speaker 3: Oh my, real business mean something that was started before

1137
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,720
Speaker 3: they came into the Housewives, because the skinny girl stuff

1138
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 3: really took off for Bethany, right.

1139
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, that would be the only other legitment.

1140
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:17,720
Speaker 1: Because you want cookies, what are they a girl bar? Whatever? Whatever.

1141
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 5: It's like, just like, I cannot say how sick I

1142
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 5: am of Joe and Melissa Gorga. I think I have to.

1143
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,240
Speaker 1: I'm sick of them. She's tired. I am tired, gonna

1144
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:30,720
Speaker 1: take it anymore? Oh my god?

1145
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:31,280
Speaker 2: Please.

1146
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's blaming them for the demise of the Jersey franchise.

1147
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, Teresa deserves blame too, but I'm like, I'm exhausted

1148
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 5: by them.

1149
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,280
Speaker 3: Listen, speaking of the Housewives. This is a spoiler alert.

1150
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 3: If you have not finished Traders, stop listening right now.

1151
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: Okay, I gave you enough time. Our girl Dolo she

1152
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 1: won the Traders. How hers housewife in history to win?

1153
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 1: She was the worst.

1154
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Speaker 3: This was Okay, So this season of the Traders. I

1155
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:05,919
Speaker 3: love that show.

1156
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: It's great. Thank you for introducing me to it.

1157
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Speaker 3: By the way, season three of the Traders US version,

1158
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Speaker 3: the people who made it to the end, it was

1159
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 3: just by sheer like. I think the only one of

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00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 3: the four who actually deserved it was Dylan. Dylan saw

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00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 3: through everybody's shit. He was just a little too nervous

1162
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 3: to really go after them and call it out, but

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00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 3: he knew what was up. Dolorous, my girl voted wrong

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Speaker 3: every single.

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Speaker 1: Time, every time, every time. I love her though.

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Speaker 3: She just voted for her heart. She was just mad

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00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 3: at people, so she was carrying out grudges. It didn't

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00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 3: matter if it made sense, it didn't matter if it

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00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,720
Speaker 3: took the balance of what was going on. She played

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00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 3: with zero politics. She just went for like, but that's

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Speaker 3: how I feel about.

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Speaker 4: It, yep.

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Speaker 1: And then she has Hiva. I don't know.

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Speaker 5: It's like, excuse me, Tom, I don't trust you. It's like, no,

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00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 5: you're mad because he voted for you.

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Speaker 1: Just say that, Just say that.

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Speaker 3: But the people who made it to the congratulations to Dylan, Gabby, Dolores,

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Speaker 3: and Ivar. Will never figure out how they did it,

1179
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 3: but they did it. Also, the Traders this year. They

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Speaker 3: had one good point. I said, Danielle and Carolyn were

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Speaker 3: the worst traders I've ever seen. Yes, they were god awful,

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Speaker 3: absolutely terrible, horrible. To be fair, Danielle did make a

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00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 3: point that she made it farther as a trader than

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Speaker 3: anybody else ever had.

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Speaker 1: Either way, Danielle was a horrible player, horrible. Carolyn was

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Speaker 1: a horrible player, a mess.

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Speaker 3: But if they did get farther than everybody else, or

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00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 3: are they that horrible?

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Speaker 1: Yes, the cast could get dumber and dumber.

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Speaker 3: You know season one I didn't watch it. Did Traders

1191
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Speaker 3: want or did faithfuls one?

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Speaker 5: I didn't watch season one either. There were no So

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00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 5: season two was when they started bringing in the people

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Speaker 5: that I watched, like, you know, all the housewives and

1195
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 5: stuff like that. I think season one was full of

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00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 5: like everyday people, oh oh, okay, mixed in with a

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Speaker 5: few because I know Kate Chestein was on season one.

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Speaker 5: I can't remember anyone else. Okay, but the show was

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Speaker 5: very entertaining. Justice for Derinda, she would have made great TV.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, but let me tell you in the reunion,

1201
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 3: she was really hung up on the fact that Bob

1202
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 3: the drag Queen didn't know who she was. She wouldn't

1203
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Speaker 3: let it go. It made her so unlikable. I have

1204
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 3: no idea who Derinda was either. I think I've met

1205
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 3: her a couple of times. But it's okay, you're in

1206
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 3: this little niche of celebrity, and definitely everybody who watches

1207
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 3: that show is going to know. I'm sure who you are,

1208
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 3: but all the people who have no idea, I couldn't

1209
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 3: name any housewives except for the ones that have been

1210
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 3: on the show, right, I think that podcast, I should say,

1211
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Speaker 3: She's always been a person of like principle, and I

1212
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:45,479
Speaker 3: think she was probably more offended of like the way

1213
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 3: that he said it, like I don't know who she is,

1214
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 3: and it's like she probably felt like that was rude,

1215
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 3: but she didn't know who he was. Yeah, I'm mad

1216
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 3: that he didn't take back the insult toward Dylan Ephron

1217
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 3: about Zach Effromne bad after.

1218
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: Was that was rude? Come on, Troy Bolton.

1219
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 3: And I was a fan of Bob the Drag Queen

1220
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Speaker 3: even up until the end, up until the reunion. In

1221
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 3: the reunion, I was like, Oh, she lost me, yeah,

1222
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 3: or he lost me whatever, fucking Bob all right on

1223
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 3: that note. We'll be back next week, and I don't

1224
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 3: know what we're gonna do. Maybe we'll do a miniso.

1225
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 3: Maybe we'll talk to someone you know.

1226
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Speaker 1: TVD TVD leave us a talkback though, hit.

1227
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Speaker 3: The little microphone button if you're listening on your phone

1228
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 3: and say something to us. Maybe we'll do a whole

1229
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 3: episode of those, because that's kind of fun. Oh yes,

1230
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 3: also like follow, subscribe, leave us reviews. Somebody left us

1231
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 3: a very hilarious I'm trying to leave you guys a review,

1232
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 3: but I don't know if I can actually leave a

1233
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 3: review with my question. I was like, that'll actually be funny.

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00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 3: Go for it if you want to. We're still holding

1235
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 3: study at four point nine. It's I don't know how,

1236
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 3: but I'll take it.

1237
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: People like you for now.

1238
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:51,399
Speaker 3: As the year progresses, we'll see how that works out. Okay,

1239
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 3: people want to find you online, Diamond where they.

1240
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 5: Find you at diamond since here on Instagram, at diamond

1241
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 5: sincere with an underscore on Twitter.

1242
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and I'm at baby hots us on Instagram and Twitter.

1243
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: And we'll see you next time. Say bye bye.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm