Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3: Morning, everybody in Steve j Envy, Jess hilarious, Charlamagne to God.
Speaker 3: We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest
Speaker 3: in the building, the champions here, indeed, Rissa Shields. Welcome.
Speaker 3: Are you feeling, girl?
Speaker 4: I feel good. I'm happy to be here.
Speaker 2: How you feeling? You gotta fight? July twenty sixth Yes,
Speaker 2: Little Caesars Arena to trade against Landy Daniels.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Always excited to fight a girl man. Always excited
Speaker 4: fen some more World Championship. She got two belts. She's
Speaker 4: from New Zealand. She supposed to be tough, so I
Speaker 4: look forward to fighting her.
Speaker 2: How do y'all pick the fights? Like who helps you
Speaker 2: decide who your next opponent gonna be?
Speaker 4: We just go whoever the best is, and then if
Speaker 4: the best turns down, we go to second best, and
Speaker 4: then if second best, we go third best. This fight,
Speaker 4: we went for Hannah Gabruce. You're that dropped me in
Speaker 4: Detroit a couple of years back. I want to rematch her,
Speaker 4: and she turned us down.
Speaker 3: And a lot of people turn you down, Like is
Speaker 3: it hard for you to fight an opponent?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Well, you know, I'm champ at fire from weight classes.
Speaker 4: So when I was at one fifty four and one
Speaker 4: sixty and one sixty eight, now I'm at one seventy five.
Speaker 4: And when I was at one fifty four, these girls
Speaker 4: who are fighting at one fifty four now wouldn't fight me.
Speaker 4: You know, I literally had to go up. It was like, okay,
Speaker 4: I challenged the girls who was at one forty seven,
Speaker 4: but they didn't want to fight. I initially went down
Speaker 4: because I wanted to fight against the one forty seven
Speaker 4: champions Sincilian brackets at the time, and she told me
Speaker 4: that I was too fat to get down in fifty four.
Speaker 4: So when I got the fifty four and beat about
Speaker 4: a girl that at fifty four, I said, now is
Speaker 4: your time and she said I'm not. She said she
Speaker 4: wasn't fighting me. So I was like, well them, that
Speaker 4: was a waste of a waste of time coming down
Speaker 4: to one fifty four because I barely made that way.
Speaker 2: Are you scared to lose?
Speaker 4: My scared lose fight? Girls can't beat me? What I
Speaker 4: gotta be scared of?
Speaker 2: Come on, I no, But I just know a lot
Speaker 2: of fighters be wanting that perfect record, and when they
Speaker 2: if they do lose, they don't bounce back the same sometime.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know them about them, but I know me.
Speaker 4: I think I trained too hard in the to gifted
Speaker 4: and I'm just meaning there, I mean, you know what
Speaker 4: it is like. I'm just I'm just real, mean, I'm
Speaker 4: real dominant. I'm very confident, and I know that I'm
Speaker 4: very hard to beat. And I don't listen. If a
Speaker 4: girl can beat me, I will get on my knees
Speaker 4: and kiss her feet and tell her good job. That's
Speaker 4: how I know it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: So do you study? You study the people that.
Speaker 5: You fight, Like Lady Daniels, have you like gone down
Speaker 5: a rabbit hole of her highlights and stuff like that?
Speaker 4: It doesn't take me long to watch the highlights. I
Speaker 4: watched the highlights. And I watch a girl fight and
Speaker 4: I say, oh, okay, I know what I need to
Speaker 4: do with her. It doesn't take me long to watch it.
Speaker 4: But I do other research, you know. I go and
Speaker 4: watch interviews of her just talking. I go and look
Speaker 4: at news articles. I learned about her life. What was
Speaker 4: her childhood?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 4: You know what she been through in life? Like I
Speaker 4: go and do like deep.
Speaker 1: Like study deeper research. What does that do for you
Speaker 1: in the ring? Like how does that the trash talk?
Speaker 4: You know, y'all get in their head? You know some
Speaker 4: of these girls, you don't some of these girls you
Speaker 4: want to piss them off. They'd be having a good
Speaker 4: game plan, but once you piss them off, the game
Speaker 4: plan go out the window, like they just want to
Speaker 4: kill you. And I think that's what I did with
Speaker 4: Savanna Marshall, Like I went and did my research on her,
Speaker 4: and then I start trying. I tried trash talking to her,
Speaker 4: and then when we got face to face, and whenever
Speaker 4: I seen her, I just used to say stuff to
Speaker 4: her and it and I know that what I would
Speaker 4: say will play over and over again in her head.
Speaker 4: And then when we fought her culture and her game
Speaker 4: plan was to stand in the center of the ring
Speaker 4: and fight me, which was like, that's done. You six two,
Speaker 4: I'm five to nine. You should have been on your
Speaker 4: jab at least to give you a better chance. That
Speaker 4: went in, But she came out there trying to, you know,
Speaker 4: fight like she can knock me out, and almost got
Speaker 4: her ass knocked out.
Speaker 3: I wanted to go back a little bit. Last time
Speaker 3: you came here, you would promote your movie, Yes, and
Speaker 3: we did. I didn't get that none of us got
Speaker 3: a chance to see the movie because movie didn't come
Speaker 3: out yet. And I seen the movie, and I wanted
Speaker 3: to talk about that, your childhood growing up a little bit,
Speaker 3: because we didn't disuss the last time because didn't.
Speaker 2: Se the movie.
Speaker 3: So after being a champion for that young for that long,
Speaker 3: nobody gave you endorsement deals, nobody put you on the
Speaker 3: cover of those serial companies. There was no money coming in.
Speaker 3: I'm sitting there like, this is crazy because you are
Speaker 3: a champ, and how did that happen? And how did
Speaker 3: you not hate the sport of boxing and say fist
Speaker 3: because you weren't even like the fact that you're winning
Speaker 3: and you still have to go back to Michigan and
Speaker 3: still have to go back to some of the places
Speaker 3: that you would is crazy, especially when you see a
Speaker 3: lot of white girls getting all that money.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, honestly, I feel like back then, me being
Speaker 4: seventeen years old, me being from Flint, Michigan, me being
Speaker 4: just I was rough around the edges. You know, I'm
Speaker 4: more put together now and I can say that back then,
Speaker 4: I didn't understand what the branding part of it was.
Speaker 4: You know how they want you to talk, You've seen
Speaker 4: in the movie. You know how they want you to
Speaker 4: wear your hair, how they want you to dress, or
Speaker 4: how you're supposed to dress, Like what's the ideal American
Speaker 4: Golden Girl? For me, it was all about the accolades.
Speaker 4: It was like, yeah, you can have the makeup and
Speaker 4: the hair and look good. But if you can do
Speaker 4: all that and then you don't win the fights, and
Speaker 4: who cares? To me? Winning has always been the number
Speaker 4: one thing to do, and I think that that had
Speaker 4: a part to play in it. And then also women's
Speaker 4: boxing being fairly new, there is no way possible to
Speaker 4: make women's boxing look good now. I know I make
Speaker 4: it look good now, but that's when I'm outside of
Speaker 4: the ring. Inside of the ring, you get what you get,
Speaker 4: you know. I come there, I have my hair braided.
Speaker 4: Excuse me, I come there in my wig to the
Speaker 4: actual fight. I have my dress on, I have my
Speaker 4: wig on, I have my makeup on. I go in
Speaker 4: the back room. Once we get to the back after
Speaker 4: the grand rival, I'm wiping on the makeup off. I
Speaker 4: mean wiping the edge control off because the edge control
Speaker 4: is sweating again your eyes and then I'll be taking
Speaker 4: the knee like Dravante.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, don't work. No, that's not
Speaker 5: how it works. Well, Javonte, he didn't have edge control.
Speaker 5: He said it was grease edge control burn. I know
Speaker 5: from experience you don't wear edge control to the gyms.
Speaker 5: Edge control now.
Speaker 4: I don't know about no grease now, but edge control, yes,
Speaker 4: it starts sweating your eye. It burned like hell. So
Speaker 4: when I when I go on the back, I take
Speaker 4: everything off, to the lashes, to everything, the edge control,
Speaker 4: and then I get in the ring and I fight.
Speaker 4: But after the fight is over with, after I done
Speaker 4: win ten rounds, sometime less I be kind of bruised
Speaker 4: up from time and sore, I still go and put
Speaker 4: my wig back on. I have my girls, my makeup,
Speaker 4: I put my clothes on, put my body suit on,
Speaker 4: put my heels on, and we go out and we party.
Speaker 4: And that is like the balance you have to find.
Speaker 4: But it's not an easy balance to have. Like a
Speaker 4: lot of times I be wanting to go home, you know,
Speaker 4: and I'll be wanting to lay down, and I got
Speaker 4: to ice my face and my body after fighting but
Speaker 4: for days and then I can come back outside and
Speaker 4: look refreshed. But it's not always that simple, so I
Speaker 4: think it was hard to Back then, I didn't care
Speaker 4: about making boxing be pretty. It was like, look, this
Speaker 4: is what you get. You want a female boxer, this
Speaker 4: is what you get. You get muscles, you get grit,
Speaker 4: you get a hard punch, you get me talking shit
Speaker 4: to these girls and tell them how bad ON beat them,
Speaker 4: and like that's what you get. But now I can
Speaker 4: manage it better because I think I'm better experienced now.
Speaker 2: And I watched the fire inside and I thought to myself,
Speaker 2: you know, because it showed so much of your personal life,
Speaker 2: is what version of Clarissia's shields you think would have
Speaker 2: emerged without boxing?
Speaker 4: I be in jail, Damn, that's flat out, period. And
Speaker 4: I would say I would be in jail or dead
Speaker 4: because boxing helped me with my anger, you know. And
Speaker 4: I'm thirty years old and I still deal with my
Speaker 4: anger now. But back then I was I was way meaner.
Speaker 4: I didn't have an understanding of why I had to
Speaker 4: go through things that I went through while my upbringing
Speaker 4: was so tough, and I was angry about that. Boxing
Speaker 4: helped me relieve some with that anger, it helped me
Speaker 4: directed towards something more positive. So I know without boxing,
Speaker 4: I would have been street fighting, fighting girls. They used
Speaker 4: to come your bishop in my hood today because they
Speaker 4: wanted me to sell drugs because I was the one
Speaker 4: that I can go, tell you I can hey. He said,
Speaker 4: give them this and then running back. But it was
Speaker 4: just like for me, I was like, I don't. I
Speaker 4: didn't want that type of lifestyle, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But I know without boxing that would have happened. Some
Speaker 4: people like saying you would have been pregnant. But I
Speaker 4: didn't even like my first boy till I was fifteen
Speaker 4: years old. I didn't like I didn't even say first boys.
Speaker 4: I didn't think it's a girl. But I didn't like
Speaker 4: anything till I was fifteen. I like boxing, And then
Speaker 4: when I was fifteen, I realized that a boy was
Speaker 4: cute to me. And that's why I'm like, okay, so
Speaker 4: I guess I'm not I'm like gay cool. He thought
Speaker 4: she was gay first, because no, I just I didn't
Speaker 4: like nothing. I thought I was weird. I anything I
Speaker 4: was gay. I thought I was weird.
Speaker 2: But that's where your mind should be at you shouldn't
Speaker 2: be thinking about no boys or no girls at fifteen.
Speaker 4: All my all my friends have boyfriends. Is eleven and
Speaker 4: ten years old, running to the gym, drinking water, eating healthy,
Speaker 4: giving myself a ten o'clock, a ten pm curfew, to
Speaker 4: be in bed six am, get up and go run
Speaker 4: to school. That was That was my life.
Speaker 3: That the coaching training. Do I still speak, Yeah, me
Speaker 3: and Jason still speak. I still speak.
Speaker 4: You know, it was just we too much alike. You know.
Speaker 4: He taught me to be very strong and confident and
Speaker 4: don't take disrespect. And I guess all those rules applied
Speaker 4: excepting him, and I think that was the problem, right.
Speaker 4: You know, he always told me when like when somebody
Speaker 4: dispect you, you checking right in and there. You don't
Speaker 4: wait till y'all go in somewhere quiet. Or he like,
Speaker 4: somebody dispect for you, disrespect you, you let him know,
Speaker 4: like right in and there, like, hey, I don't like that.
Speaker 4: That Like that wasn't cool. That was respectful when you
Speaker 4: try to let them know, like hey, like it's consequences
Speaker 4: for being disrespectful, you know, it's consequence.
Speaker 1: Break down what happened exactly?
Speaker 5: What to see because I see, and Tiki is from
Speaker 5: Baddies for those who don't know, but that's Kris Shawn's sister.
Speaker 5: But uh, it's so many different rumors around there. People
Speaker 5: say you started, and they say she started. I want
Speaker 5: to know how what even happened? Because you know you're
Speaker 5: not on Baddies, you don't be over there. It was
Speaker 5: so like, how did that even start?
Speaker 4: Fans? This is the thing I fight professionally? Who was
Speaker 4: more known for fighting me? Or Teki? Let let's be
Speaker 4: on professionally for sure fighting period. I went to the
Speaker 4: Olympics twice. I'm known by millions for fighting.
Speaker 5: But what I'm saying, you're a profess like you are
Speaker 5: a professional fighter, like you said that, you're more known professionally.
Speaker 4: So now that she's beating up girls on Batties, her
Speaker 4: fans came to me, Oh, we think Tsiki can do
Speaker 4: this and do that. All I did was re fond
Speaker 4: let them know. I like that Tsiki is beating these
Speaker 4: girls up. You know it's good for TV. But she
Speaker 4: can't beat me up. And that's where I think her
Speaker 4: problem came from. But all in all, I don't give
Speaker 4: a damn about to Siki or nobody who think that
Speaker 4: she can do anything with me. She said that she
Speaker 4: needs to stop popping pills and all these other shit
Speaker 4: to get ready to fight me. And she gotta train
Speaker 4: exactly how I train.
Speaker 2: That's she behind the eight ball.
Speaker 4: She gotta she's already, she's already meant, she's already lost
Speaker 4: in a sauce when it comes to even a fight
Speaker 4: with me. And that's inside the ring and outside of
Speaker 4: the ring. Because one, you never tell nobody your weaknesses.
Speaker 4: You never tell them all the stuff that you're doing
Speaker 4: that you're not supposed to be doing. That's one. Two,
Speaker 4: I'm never gonna give you my entire regimen of training
Speaker 4: of what I do. Why why would I do that?
Speaker 4: Get up and gonna run six miles? She'll die, she
Speaker 4: can't do it. So the conversation doesn't make sense. I
Speaker 4: think right now I man to spot my life where
Speaker 4: everything is about cloud, cloud, cloud, and right now I'm
Speaker 4: this natural cloud. Anytime I talk to everybody like, oh,
Speaker 4: Chloressa said this, Clarssa said that shade Room Hollywood on
Speaker 4: lock TMZ, I really can't do anything without people taking
Speaker 4: bits and parts of it, and just it was the
Speaker 4: fans that made that and then I also, like I said,
Speaker 4: I responded to it, and actually I actually caught an
Speaker 4: Ivory to a fight to.
Speaker 1: Me Ivy who was on who just she just joined Batty.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Ivy is way more rough eren in to Siki. Yeah,
Speaker 4: she's actually from like a rough part of wherever she's from.
Speaker 4: And I've seen that girl fight on now That's TV,
Speaker 4: me too, and she was more keen. She responded to
Speaker 4: having a boxing match against me. It wasn't a street
Speaker 4: fight with Ivory. She responded to her wanted to get
Speaker 4: in the ring and box against me, and I was like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, well let's make it happen. But you know
Speaker 4: it's the Internet. So I made that one hundred thousand
Speaker 4: dollars challenge to Hey, if a girl can whip me,
Speaker 4: I will I will give you one hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 4: If you can beat me in a in a fight,
Speaker 4: you deserve a hundred thousand. You do.
Speaker 2: I want to see it. I don't I'm not wishing
Speaker 2: that on you, Clarissa, but I just want to see
Speaker 2: it because I feel like, at some point You're gonna
Speaker 2: have to show one of these girls stop playing with you.
Speaker 4: Did you miss it. When I beat the troiller at
Speaker 4: the JOB, I remember that what I was the first
Speaker 4: example these girls, No did I come to gym with me?
Speaker 4: No more, I will glove up with you. I'm not
Speaker 4: that bougie where they be like, oh, I'm just too celebrity.
Speaker 4: I don't know, Nah, you want yours.
Speaker 2: That's my point. When I hear people just randomly talking
Speaker 2: to professional athletes online like they can just beat them
Speaker 2: so easily, I just want to. I need to see
Speaker 2: I'm because I don't know why. We need to see
Speaker 2: the difference between the clarista shills and just you. You know, yeah,
Speaker 2: what do you mean?
Speaker 4: You want to see me in the street fight?
Speaker 2: I want you to get some money for it, but
Speaker 2: I just want.
Speaker 4: To know what I'm saying. You want to see me
Speaker 4: like fight without gloves?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Because yeah, job, I would say, well box and listen.
Speaker 4: First of all, the boxing gloves protect the fighters. It's
Speaker 4: the patty. I would never do bare knuckles. I barely
Speaker 4: wanted to do MMA, which is four ounce gloves. But
Speaker 4: Tarla Maine, I fight these girls with no gloves on.
Speaker 4: You must hate them. Wow, I can't believe you said that.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, he said, that. I'm apologized, but.
Speaker 1: Didn't they They tried to get you on Baddies, right.
Speaker 4: Natalie wanted me to come. Natalie wanted you to come
Speaker 4: and stay in the house and everything, and I told her, listen,
Speaker 4: I was all for it because I feel like it's
Speaker 4: cross branding. Yeah, it's cross branding. And I will more
Speaker 4: going there on some I like positive stuff, you know,
Speaker 4: I like really yeah, I like I like positive stuff
Speaker 4: like box is positive to me. But I would go
Speaker 4: on there more of like I think the girls on
Speaker 4: on Baddies, it's a lot of women on there who
Speaker 4: got like some trauma and these healing, you know, and
Speaker 4: training in boxing helped me. I want to go on
Speaker 4: there to these girls want to fight all the time.
Speaker 4: I don't understand if they fighting the If they fighting
Speaker 4: the whole time, who's getting to a bag?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that'd.
Speaker 4: Be my question for them, Like who's actually getting to
Speaker 4: some money on there? If all they doing is fighting.
Speaker 4: They can't go to the club, they can't go to dinner,
Speaker 4: they can't go to events because it's a fight that
Speaker 4: break out every time. So for me, I was like, look,
Speaker 4: I will go on there and I want to be
Speaker 4: that eye open her like, look, let's train, let's work out,
Speaker 4: let's release some stress, and maybe everything can go more smoothly.
Speaker 4: But then, of course if it, if it can't, yeah,
Speaker 4: glove up and put on headgears and some mouthpieces. Because
Speaker 4: girls getting their teeth knocked out, they getting eyes busted up.
Speaker 5: I don't know how much they No, I'm not even
Speaker 5: talking about like what they're getting paid.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying like for is nothing.
Speaker 5: It's just a bunch of arguments and fightingsbective, true objective.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't know who's right, who's wrong. I don't know.
Speaker 4: But like I said, I told Nay that I will
Speaker 4: come on her show, but she gotta have everybody sign
Speaker 4: a sign of form that if I listen, I want
Speaker 4: them girls trying to be so intim that they team
Speaker 4: up and try to jump me. N I got the
Speaker 4: whoop foutos in one day. No, we gotta we gotta
Speaker 4: have them sign that. Listen. I'm not responsible for no damages,
Speaker 4: for no teeth, no eyes, none of that. Because I
Speaker 4: feel like those girls on batteries are their devils. And here,
Speaker 4: well look I getting jumped back to seeking ivory. I
Speaker 4: gotta fight for my life it's two of them. I
Speaker 4: gotta fight real, real hard, and it's like I'm not
Speaker 4: I'm not losing, especially if we're on TV and they
Speaker 4: gonna post collect. I got to show y'all what I
Speaker 4: can really do.
Speaker 1: Sign it.
Speaker 4: No, she said that she couldn't get it done. She said, oh,
Speaker 4: she talked to she talked to Zeus and since it's
Speaker 4: reality TV, she can't have them sign it. I said, well,
Speaker 4: I can't come and we ain't even talk about money
Speaker 4: or or anything, because once we didn't get past that.
Speaker 4: I just said, okay, cool.
Speaker 2: And people be so scared to take a ass weapon.
Speaker 2: They might come at you with weapons and all types of.
Speaker 4: I got people trying to people talking about listen, people
Speaker 4: don't say that they gonna shoot me, stab me, all types.
Speaker 3: Of stuff I want to ask about. With a last fight,
Speaker 3: they said, uh, at first they said there was some
Speaker 3: substance in your in your in your in your urine.
Speaker 3: And then they came back and said that wasn't true.
Speaker 3: What happened with that instance?
Speaker 4: Man, people is crazy. I don't know man, like it was.
Speaker 4: It's just it's just crazy work. I will I will
Speaker 4: tell you that I've never experienced something like that in
Speaker 4: my life, I don't smoke marijuana. I don't eat marijuana.
Speaker 4: I'm not even around people that smoke. So I was
Speaker 4: thinking that it was the arena because I know that
Speaker 4: in the arena was smoky as ever. You know, rather
Speaker 4: that was with cigarette smoke.
Speaker 2: We smoke whatever.
Speaker 4: You can just go to the storm buy it. So
Speaker 4: when I found out that it was in my system,
Speaker 4: first thing I did because I was here in New Jersey.
Speaker 4: I was here in New York and I was a
Speaker 4: pet when I got the news, I said, these theseus
Speaker 4: is crazy. I went straight to lab Corp. And I
Speaker 4: took a yearine test and that and that goes back
Speaker 4: to thirty days and they said I didn't have any
Speaker 4: marijuana in my system at all. So how this came
Speaker 4: out that I did have it in there from a
Speaker 4: swab test, which isn't really that accurate versus a urine test.
Speaker 4: I think that's how I beat my case. And like
Speaker 4: I said, I had to go and sit in front
Speaker 4: of them and go to trial and all this bullcrap.
Speaker 4: But it just I think something was wrong with their test.
Speaker 4: I don't know what was wrong with the test, but
Speaker 4: everything got resolved. I got unsuspended and now we're back
Speaker 4: fighting July twenty sixth at Little Caesars in the trade.
Speaker 2: You know you said earlier that you know people do
Speaker 2: you the clout now? Right? And I saw. I saw
Speaker 2: Chris Cyborg just tweet out. He said, who is that
Speaker 2: USC fighter? Okay, he said, only five boxing fights, but
Speaker 2: already got more KOs than Clarissa's shields. Oh that was
Speaker 2: so random.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't know why she. First of all,
Speaker 4: I kicked Chris cyborg ass very bad when we sparred
Speaker 4: a few years back, and I know now Bob was
Speaker 4: the fighter I knock her out, so I don't know.
Speaker 4: And then she just fought a girl that was four
Speaker 4: four wins, three losses and haven't knocked out twice already.
Speaker 4: So if you go out, if you want to be technical,
Speaker 4: since I have to, if you go to box rereck,
Speaker 4: I've never fought against a fighter who wasn't who had
Speaker 4: more than four or five losses. Most of the people
Speaker 4: I fought against undefeated champions. So when Chris Ibory can
Speaker 4: do that, she gets like maha, like how many knockouts
Speaker 4: she's getting. But to the end, she can go keep
Speaker 4: injecting that shit in her face trying to make her
Speaker 4: face look softer because she looked like a damn clown
Speaker 4: every time I see her. I just I just can't,
Speaker 4: you know. And then Chris is the op. She wanted
Speaker 4: to learn so much. Oh, oh, oh, I'm your friend.
Speaker 4: I want you to train mmm. And then when I
Speaker 4: turned Mma to start fighting May she won't even come
Speaker 4: and train with me.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: But she was like, oh, when you train Mma, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna teach you this and teach you that. She won't
Speaker 4: even come train with me because I beat her up
Speaker 4: when we sparred. So she was a op and she
Speaker 4: should have took that money that them dudes have for
Speaker 4: us to fight over there and saw when they offer
Speaker 4: me three million to offer her one, she should have
Speaker 4: took the money.
Speaker 3: Do you like fighting?
Speaker 2: She turned that down.
Speaker 4: She's a punk. Oh, I want to fight at one
Speaker 4: forty seven, and and you're bigger than me. Why do
Speaker 4: we gotta fight at one fifty four? I'm like, Sis,
Speaker 4: let's get some money. What's the problem. Oh no, I
Speaker 4: want to fight at one forty seven. Well, I've never
Speaker 4: made one forty seven, so I'm not going to forty seven.
Speaker 3: You enjoy fighting in Michigan or do you like Vegas.
Speaker 4: Well, my dream was to fight at Team Maball Arena
Speaker 4: in Vegas. That's like my ultimate dream main event I
Speaker 4: fought through before my pro debut. But I love fighting.
Speaker 4: I love fighting Michigan though. You know, but listen, you
Speaker 4: gotta you gotta come to the fight to actually experience it.
Speaker 4: Some of these boxing matches I've been going to, they
Speaker 4: they've been kind of lack lesteran born. But you don't
Speaker 4: get that up in my fight. You get a good walkout,
Speaker 4: you get a nice crowd, the crowd chance whooped that
Speaker 4: trick in between a rounds, and uh yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: you get action packed fight with me in there. So
Speaker 4: it's a whole different experience.
Speaker 2: What's something about the way women's boxing is promoted that
Speaker 2: makes you cringe, but you haven't publicly called it out yet.
Speaker 4: For me, how they act like putting women on men's
Speaker 4: undercards doesn't help the women. They keep trying to say, oh,
Speaker 4: it's not beneficial, but that's how they build their men
Speaker 4: champions up to where they can become main event fighters.
Speaker 4: So when I was saying, Hey, I want to fight
Speaker 4: the under card of Deontay Wilder, Terence Crawford, Earl Spence, paq,
Speaker 4: y'all gods of that nature. I was always been told, Oh,
Speaker 4: that's not gonna help you girl, that's not gonna help
Speaker 4: your brand. That's not gonna It was like, yes, it is,
Speaker 4: Yes it is. If twenty million people is tuning in
Speaker 4: to see Anthony Joshuall fight, I'm the co main event,
Speaker 4: at least ten of them gonna be there or fifteen
Speaker 4: waiting to get to the so they can see me
Speaker 4: fight and they can become fans of me. But they
Speaker 4: act like that's false information when I know that it's
Speaker 4: true because I've seen them do it with the men
Speaker 4: who I fight better than that. Now that these men
Speaker 4: are getting main event cards and I'm like, huh, that's funny.
Speaker 4: He fighting pay per view and I know Dan Will,
Speaker 4: he can't fight better than me.
Speaker 3: Seemed like a no brainer.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Hell that fight the Tailor Seranto fight.
Speaker 4: Who that was on the card of Mike.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was the best fight on the
Speaker 2: car that night.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I agree.
Speaker 1: Your name has been your name being.
Speaker 5: A lot of a lot of conversations, you know, not
Speaker 5: only even for boxing though, but your personal life as well. Right,
Speaker 5: and do you feel like because your personal life, you know,
Speaker 5: like your love life and everything like give it online,
Speaker 5: that gets like more publicity than like things like your
Speaker 5: movie or your fights. Do you feel like that help
Speaker 5: helps or hurt your career in any type of way?
Speaker 4: Like I fight, everything helps, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Women's is a very hard market for people to find
Speaker 4: out about you, you know what I'm saying. Like, I've
Speaker 4: been the best fighter in the world since I was
Speaker 4: seventeen years old. I'm thirty now, that's thirteen years of
Speaker 4: dominance of not losing. I got seventeen year old titles,
Speaker 4: five different divisions, four a time undisputed champion. Like, I've
Speaker 4: accomplished everything you can accomplish in boxing. So therefore all
Speaker 4: this stuff that my name being, it's like, you know what,
Speaker 4: it's beneficial. I just have to make sure it's going
Speaker 4: the direction that I wanted to go. I want to
Speaker 4: be Beyonce. Okay, I want to be like Serena Williams.
Speaker 4: I don't want to be like I don't even want
Speaker 4: to get no better examples. It's a bunch, but I
Speaker 4: want to be like on that caliber of Muhammad Ali.
Speaker 4: So doing that I can't entertain everything, you know, even
Speaker 4: though it may give me more followers, but it's not
Speaker 4: something that's going toward where I'm trying to go in
Speaker 4: my career and in my life because I'm trying to
Speaker 4: go to the fifty and twenty one hundred million dollars
Speaker 4: and some stuff that I may entertain. Kid could stop that,
Speaker 4: you know, I don't my name be everywhere? Every day
Speaker 4: I gotta every day is somebody else making a damn podcast.
Speaker 4: It's somebody else making a video, and somebody else putting pictures.
Speaker 4: They got old pictures in me, new pictures in me,
Speaker 4: and pictures of me and Pat. It just every day
Speaker 4: is something and it just takes a lot of mind powers.
Speaker 3: You're just like, you know what, welcome to our world.
Speaker 1: I know, right.
Speaker 5: Let me just you know, just because like, yeah, right
Speaker 5: before your movie came out, right before it came out
Speaker 5: health sales or.
Speaker 1: Whatever or whatever it did. It did, but your relationship
Speaker 1: was revealed in a very messy way.
Speaker 5: What was going through your mind when that happened. That
Speaker 5: was early in the morning, and everything just.
Speaker 4: You know, it was it was I can say that
Speaker 4: I can say that I was shocked for one and
Speaker 4: I was upset because me and my publish that, me
Speaker 4: and my publicists have been talking about, Hey, we're getting
Speaker 4: ready to have the movie come out on Christmas Day.
Speaker 4: Let's not have nothing happen. So I had been ignoring
Speaker 4: so many things, so many things, and then this can
Speaker 4: It was like, oh, what the hell? And I remember
Speaker 4: being like I was. I was. I was frustrated, but
Speaker 4: also too, it's like, keep keep your cool because once again,
Speaker 4: the direction we're trying to go is not that direction. One.
Speaker 4: I don't get paid off of drama. A lot of
Speaker 4: people say that they know me because of that situation
Speaker 4: or or because of PAP and it was like, I
Speaker 4: had one point one million followers before that ever happened.
Speaker 4: Now I'm at one point one point four And it
Speaker 4: was like, but I also had a movie come out.
Speaker 4: I had a fight. I'm constantly going viral for.
Speaker 2: Anything, Netflix documentary.
Speaker 4: I've done TV shows like I Wrap, So with that,
Speaker 4: I just like, you know what, It's just I think
Speaker 4: that the devil was trying to get in a way.
Speaker 4: You know, he wanted to see me crash out. And
Speaker 4: that's why I handled it how I handled it. I
Speaker 4: promoted my movie. I promoted my fight and I just
Speaker 4: continue moving because I have nothing to argue about. Like
Speaker 4: me and Papa are together, where we are happy together.
Speaker 4: He packed my belt this morning for me to bring
Speaker 4: my stuff here. We just got back from LA. We're
Speaker 4: together all the time. He wrapped me out. We trained together,
Speaker 4: like we're together, So I don't really have to argue
Speaker 4: about anybody about where my spot is with him. You know,
Speaker 4: it's like that's not my place. Now. There are things
Speaker 4: that got to get handled, but it's still it's not
Speaker 4: even my stuff to handle, it's his. How did y'all
Speaker 4: bet we met at your court fight July six last year? Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's what I said.
Speaker 3: How did you know he was the one? How did
Speaker 3: you I'm sure how did you know? Like he was
Speaker 3: the one?
Speaker 4: He's smooth cat man. See. The thing is, like I
Speaker 4: told her, I didn't really like boys until I was fifteen.
Speaker 4: So now I've had a few boyfriends here and there.
Speaker 4: And I remember like Pappy walked up to me and
Speaker 4: he shook my hand, which I was like shake hands hands.
Speaker 4: That was kind of my mind, like what the hell?
Speaker 4: And then he just mentioned like, oh, I watched you
Speaker 4: fighting the Olympics. I'm a fan. I've been a fan,
Speaker 4: you know. And I was like, well, well, I fight
Speaker 4: in two weeks in Detroit. You know, if you if
Speaker 4: you freeze your come out. He was like, I'm coming.
Speaker 4: And I always get that from celebrities though they always
Speaker 4: say all we're gonna come, We're gonna come, and then
Speaker 4: fight night come and then they don't come. So I
Speaker 4: didn't think it was coming. I'm like, all right, cool.
Speaker 4: I'm like, we took a picture, which I'm gonna get
Speaker 4: to that in a minute, but we took a picture
Speaker 4: and I posted it on my page, but it was
Speaker 4: my second picture because I think, gee, Herbert was the
Speaker 4: first picture. And then when I posted it, I dmned
Speaker 4: him in the picture and I'm like, if you want
Speaker 4: to come to the fight, here's my public's number. I
Speaker 4: make sure you got VIP where you can come to
Speaker 4: the back and you know, say hello whatever. And he
Speaker 4: was like all right. So he hit her immediately and
Speaker 4: we're all in the group text and then the day
Speaker 4: had a fight, he texted her and says, hey, I'm here,
Speaker 4: and then she brought him to the back and I
Speaker 4: was like, oh shit, he came to the fight, that's
Speaker 4: what's up. And but I could tell like you said,
Speaker 4: what did he I know he was the one so strange.
Speaker 4: So I came here to the breakfast club last year
Speaker 4: and he kept saying he wants to go out to
Speaker 4: eat when I come to New York, you want to
Speaker 4: take me out to eat. And I was just like, why,
Speaker 4: what do you want to go out to eat? Forth,
Speaker 4: like what's up? And we had we have been texting
Speaker 4: back and forth and stuff like that, but he's really
Speaker 4: hard to He's not hard to read, but he's very
Speaker 4: like private throughout the text, and so he like, I
Speaker 4: just want to talk to you in person. So when
Speaker 4: we talked in person, that's when I was like, dangn
Speaker 4: I kind of like this dude, and he just was
Speaker 4: like so kind, so nice, and I think we had
Speaker 4: a conversation before. I do like bad boys and good boys.
Speaker 4: I like a good guy. Don't be all all that nonchalance,
Speaker 4: stuck up you the you the prize, Get the hell
Speaker 4: away from me.
Speaker 5: Please knock nigg out act like that.
Speaker 4: You mess. People think I hate my men. I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't. Come on.
Speaker 2: Now, you said there's some things he needs to handle.
Speaker 2: What do you mean by that?
Speaker 4: Said? Again?
Speaker 2: You said earlier that some things need to handle.
Speaker 4: Oh, I mean, it's the elephant in the room. I
Speaker 4: don't have to say it in his personal life, but
Speaker 4: that but that takes time, and like I said, that's
Speaker 4: not my place to speak on you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 4: it'll get it'll get handled. I just know that from
Speaker 4: my perspective. I'm with him. I'm with him every day,
Speaker 4: and when I'm not with him, we're on the phone
Speaker 4: every day and we're talking and we're face timing, and
Speaker 4: you know, we love each other. So that's just kind
Speaker 4: of what it is, you know what I'm saying. But hey,
Speaker 4: it's the situation, and it is what it is.
Speaker 2: I'm assuming you mean, like you want to wait till
Speaker 2: the divorce is like official official? Did that hold you?
Speaker 2: Did that keep you from from like giving you all?
Speaker 4: No? Not, because we're together all the time.
Speaker 1: So that all is already given.
Speaker 4: What she's saying, Yeah, that's that's it. We already talked.
Speaker 4: We talk about so many different things, and I'm thirty,
Speaker 4: so we talk about kids and family and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: But like it's still that still has to get taken
Speaker 4: care of. But like you know, once again, it's not
Speaker 4: it's not for me, you say, I'm saying like I'm
Speaker 4: not I'm not married, you know, so, uh yeah, that's
Speaker 4: that'll get handled. But still at the same time, I've
Speaker 4: been like, I'm such a secure woman when it comes
Speaker 4: to him because he's proven his he's proven it to
Speaker 4: me like I was. I was. So when somebody is
Speaker 4: just truthful with you from the beginning, there is no
Speaker 4: there is no secrets there there is just hey, this
Speaker 4: is what it is, and do you accept or do
Speaker 4: you not accept? That's kind of what it was. And
Speaker 4: he's been true from the beginning. And we fell on
Speaker 4: the phone for three four months of us first getting together,
Speaker 4: So for us to fall asleep on a regular night
Speaker 4: and then to wake up to chaos in the morning
Speaker 4: was like.
Speaker 5: Oh shit, we see that's how we found out because
Speaker 5: y'all was on the damn phone.
Speaker 4: But that had been going on for three four months,
Speaker 4: and that wasn't just at night. We talked from sun
Speaker 4: up to sundown, so that, like I said, that's what
Speaker 4: shocked me because I was like, oh, hell, what the heck?
Speaker 4: Because if we go to see on the phone four
Speaker 4: for four months every night and the phone's saying it's
Speaker 4: four hours, three hours whatever hours on the phone. You
Speaker 4: don't think that one day you're gonna wake up to that,
Speaker 4: you know. So that's what threw me off. But hey,
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, look, women are women.
Speaker 4: I don't know what. I don't know what else to say,
Speaker 4: Like I don't I don't have any ill will toward
Speaker 4: any women, and I don't have any ill will toward her.
Speaker 3: So y'all haven't spoken.
Speaker 4: Nah, No, I mean she made her post and whatever,
Speaker 4: and that was about it. But like I said, women
Speaker 4: aren't women. They're very emotional creatures, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And I think that was just I don't know. I
Speaker 4: don't know what it was. I don't know it was
Speaker 4: emotions or I don't know what it was because because
Speaker 4: I don't know her and she don't know me. She
Speaker 4: don't know me either, you know what I'm saying. So yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't know what that was. But like I said,
Speaker 4: it's not it wasn't for me. That's why I just
Speaker 4: responded how I responded. We're gonna promote the movie gonna
Speaker 4: We're gonna promote the Fight once again. I Fight July
Speaker 4: twenty six, Man, they've been at Little CAUs Arena tickets
Speaker 4: on Ticketmaster. Nineteen thousand. People need to be there. Last
Speaker 4: five I did twelve thousand. Let's go for nineteen this one.
Speaker 2: You know, you know, as a woman who dominates the
Speaker 2: brutal sports claricity, do you ever feel like you gotta
Speaker 2: protect your softness?
Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody don't get that. Everybody don't get that. You know,
Speaker 4: in the in the in the past year, I say
Speaker 4: year and a half, I had to change my whole
Speaker 4: whole life around. I was living in Flint, Michigan. I
Speaker 4: had me a nice house there. I was engaged. You know.
Speaker 4: I was just very very close to everybody in my family.
Speaker 4: But once I knocked out Joe Nace at that heavyweight
Speaker 4: and people thought I was gonna lose that fight, and
Speaker 4: I knocked her out in the second round. I thought,
Speaker 4: people change when you lose. People change when you win.
Speaker 4: And they thought you was gonna lose, and they start
Speaker 4: acting crazy all this entitlement. People got issues with me.
Speaker 4: I did this, I did that. I'm like, I haven't
Speaker 4: done nothing but training and work hard and be accomplished,
Speaker 4: and oh I'm looking down on them. I think I'm
Speaker 4: better than them because I buy myself nice things and
Speaker 4: I don't buy them nice things, and it just got outrageous,
Speaker 4: you know, and then these girls and it was you know, anyways,
Speaker 4: it was just people start paying more attention to me
Speaker 4: because I started loving myself better. So loving myself better
Speaker 4: it means you have to disconnect from that don't love you.
Speaker 4: And I had to move all the way to Atlanta.
Speaker 4: I have another house now, a seven bedroom house now,
Speaker 4: and I just had to move there. And I spent
Speaker 4: so much time learning to be okay with being by myself, right,
Speaker 4: And this was coming out of a relationship. And I
Speaker 4: didn't just jump into a relationship with Pat. I gave
Speaker 4: myself a month or two. But it was still just
Speaker 4: just a little bit of time, you know how it
Speaker 4: was young fucks can't be too long now. I'm fine
Speaker 4: for that, but yeah, it just more for me, like
Speaker 4: I had to like really seclude myself. And when I
Speaker 4: did that, I learned to be alright with just hanging
Speaker 4: out with me, you know what I'm saying, hanging out
Speaker 4: with me and my dog, because I have a dog.
Speaker 3: The sad thing about it is watching a movie. That's
Speaker 3: how you were at like fifteen sixteen, the same thing
Speaker 3: you started winning and then everybody started coming and started
Speaker 3: feeling entitled. And it's weird that you still had to
Speaker 3: deal with that now. It just never changed.
Speaker 4: You never change problems. And and that's real. More money,
Speaker 4: more problems. They hear about you making millions of dollars.
Speaker 4: They see you rent one hundred thousand dollars chain, you
Speaker 4: got a Rolex, you got diamonds on diamonds. They're like,
Speaker 4: where my shit at? And I'd be like, well, you
Speaker 4: gonna get hit in the face, and then you and
Speaker 4: then I and then I bet you get something. You
Speaker 4: may not get a million, but you're gonna get some
Speaker 4: You're gonna get some money. If you're gonna run some
Speaker 4: miles and you're gonna eat healthy, and you sacrifice what
Speaker 4: you have to sacrifice one hundred percent, you will make
Speaker 4: some type of money.
Speaker 2: Do you think you feel that way because you've always
Speaker 2: I'm just going off the movie. In the movie, there
Speaker 2: was a scene where you was with your think, your
Speaker 2: little brother and your little sister, and you was like,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get us out the hood. Basically, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: get us out of here. I'm gonna take that. They
Speaker 2: always looked to you to be that person.
Speaker 4: Yes, and no, because I've done things for my family
Speaker 4: that I nobody else in this room will probably do
Speaker 4: for their family. I've bought cars, I've I've paid rent
Speaker 4: and not this rent for a month or two, but
Speaker 4: like for a whole year and a half. My sister,
Speaker 4: little three kids are kids, school clothes, hairdudes, haircuts, shoes.
Speaker 4: That's me, my younger brother, my mom. I bought my
Speaker 4: mom two cars so far. My little brother, I just
Speaker 4: bought him a car. And I don't say this to brag,
Speaker 4: but it's like, I do things for my family to
Speaker 4: help them have a better life. And it comes to
Speaker 4: a point where it's like, listen, you're grown too. I
Speaker 4: don't have to take care of you. You're like you're
Speaker 4: grown too, Like what are you going to do to
Speaker 4: help change your life? Because I'm not God. I'm not God,
Speaker 4: and nobody came down and gave me a car and
Speaker 4: gave me money. I had to work for everything that
Speaker 4: I have, so I can't just give it and give
Speaker 4: it away. Because you guys feel like, oh, you're our
Speaker 4: big sister or you're our family member, like this is
Speaker 4: what you're supposed to do. It's like, no, I can
Speaker 4: help position you, but then after that you have to work.
Speaker 4: You have to figure it out, because I gotta figure
Speaker 4: it out.
Speaker 5: They got to have that mindset though, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean. Like if they don't have that mindset like you,
Speaker 5: like you grind you, you push yourself, you built your
Speaker 5: own self, you know what I mean, then all they
Speaker 5: gonna keep doing like you said, you just paid somebody
Speaker 5: rent a year and a half straight.
Speaker 1: At not one.
Speaker 5: Point did they ever say, all r yo, make me like,
Speaker 5: put me on so I can't pay my own rent.
Speaker 1: They just sat there and just let you pay the
Speaker 1: rent for a year and a half.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I also told them to save up, save
Speaker 5: save up your money. I supposed to do it for six
Speaker 5: while I'm paying your rent.
Speaker 4: Save your money because once I'm done paying your rent,
Speaker 4: you should be able to go pay your own rent
Speaker 4: and you should have a job by then. Two you'd
Speaker 4: be to buy to buy you a car. Some should
Speaker 4: be able to happen after saving bill, saving up your
Speaker 4: money for a year and a half. And that's one
Speaker 4: thing people talking about people getting money. Money management is
Speaker 4: a lost art in a black community. It's a lost art.
Speaker 4: All these basketball players, football players, after they're not in
Speaker 4: the league for three years. They broke and that's sad,
Speaker 4: But that's because money management is not something that's taught.
Speaker 4: But I want to learn. When you're getting hundreds of
Speaker 4: thousand here, one hundred thousand there, you can go buy
Speaker 4: whatever you want from Gucci, Louis Versatcha. You can just
Speaker 4: go buy it. You're not even paying attention to how
Speaker 4: much money you're spending, and then you think that after
Speaker 4: your career is done, you can still spend that way,
Speaker 4: and then you realize, like, oh, bank card declined. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So I learned about money management
Speaker 4: doing during COVID, I had ten people sent in my house.
Speaker 4: Ten I was ordering door dash every day cases of water, food,
Speaker 4: and I think from the year of COVID, I spent
Speaker 4: seventy five thousand dollars within a few months. I look
Speaker 4: at my bank account and I said, what how that happened?
Speaker 4: I thought somebody was stealing from me. I went down
Speaker 4: and looked at my bank account. I went to the
Speaker 4: bank and wan't nobody stealing you just you just spend
Speaker 4: money because you know that you have it. But it
Speaker 4: was like, yo, that's yo, that's too much for me
Speaker 4: to be spending seventy five thousand and three months.
Speaker 1: It adds up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, some got some got a shit. So for me,
Speaker 4: that's where I learned, like, Okay, let's stop ordering so
Speaker 4: much online. We can't eat or that shar every day.
Speaker 4: Let's order some groceries like you got to figure out
Speaker 4: the give in the giving and take. Because I don't
Speaker 4: do any cigarettes or alcohol or drugs, So that wasn't
Speaker 4: the problem. The problem was to me, I'm I'm ordering out,
Speaker 4: taking care of everybody. I'm paying for gas, I'm paying
Speaker 4: for cars, I'm doing everything. It's like, yo, you you
Speaker 4: and me broke like them, like the people you've been
Speaker 4: talking about. Girl.
Speaker 3: Now, I did see an interview that you said after
Speaker 3: this this year, you're gonna close shot down and you
Speaker 3: want to start your family. Said you said you want
Speaker 3: to you want to start your family, about to shut
Speaker 3: this boxing down for a little bit. You still you're
Speaker 3: still on that wave.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I want to have two more fights this
Speaker 4: year and then shut it down for a minute.
Speaker 1: The reason why I look, I did.
Speaker 5: I knew who you were before you got into a
Speaker 5: relationship with Pat, but this is the first time that
Speaker 5: I've seen you in your soft girl as soft as
Speaker 5: I feel like you ever gonna get unless you have
Speaker 5: a daughter. But I feel like, yeah, i've seen I've
Speaker 5: never seen you blush before until your relationship, I've never
Speaker 5: seen you not that you always like hard. Yeah, you're
Speaker 5: always hard up, but before your relationship. Now you're more
Speaker 5: like soft girl. And you said you had a seven
Speaker 5: bedroom house. You're planning to fill that up with Well,
Speaker 5: that's what It's the same question, but it's just better form.
Speaker 5: So you're trying to fill up that seven bedroom house.
Speaker 4: No, So just to rewind, I think with the childhood
Speaker 4: that I had, I have to slowly grow into the
Speaker 4: soft girl area. It's not something that just come overnight.
Speaker 4: You don't just turn twenty five mile old now you're
Speaker 4: soft and thirty nine years soft. It's like I had
Speaker 4: to do a whole lot of healing and growing. And
Speaker 4: I feel like I've been a soft girl for three years.
Speaker 4: People keep saying it just started with Pap and it
Speaker 4: was like, no, I've been I'm softer now because of
Speaker 4: the man that he is, you understand, But I've always
Speaker 4: been soft and anybody knows, you know that I'm very sensitive.
Speaker 4: That's why I let everybody talk to me and be
Speaker 4: a rumman because you say the wrong thing. I've been
Speaker 4: been a freaked out and everybody like, what's wrong with her?
Speaker 4: And I'm just crying and I'm cussing everybody out and
Speaker 4: I want to fight people because I know that I'm sensitive.
Speaker 4: I know that. So with me knowing that, I just
Speaker 4: kind of, you know, sty're clear of drama and stuff
Speaker 4: like that. So with that, now that I'm in my softer,
Speaker 4: softer girl era and I'm in a heel girl era too,
Speaker 4: I want to I feel like I'm capable to have
Speaker 4: a child now, you know, And and I always wanted
Speaker 4: my own family. I want to have six kids, honestly,
Speaker 4: but I will settle with four.
Speaker 1: The seven bedroom house.
Speaker 5: That's why you got, yeah, bedroom for the six kids,
Speaker 5: and then the bedroom for you, your man and the dog.
Speaker 4: The dog is crazy. But yeah, I mean I don't
Speaker 4: want to yeah, in total over the years, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. But I do want to start next year.
Speaker 4: But you know, tell God your plans and hell and
Speaker 4: he'll leaf, you know. So I just know, like that's
Speaker 4: that's what I want. But who knows if it happened
Speaker 4: to it, maybe thirty one or thirty two. You never know,
Speaker 4: but I know that I will be having a kid,
Speaker 4: some kids soon.
Speaker 2: Was there ever a moment because of your upbringing, because
Speaker 2: of the trauma you experienced where even winning feels lonelier
Speaker 2: than losing?
Speaker 4: Mike Fields, No, nothing feels better than winning. Losing sucks.
Speaker 4: Losing sucks. I don't know. I don't know if type
Speaker 4: of winning you when I win, I feel like, to me,
Speaker 4: winning a boxing match is just as great as having
Speaker 4: a great having a great sex session, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Like that's it's the highest thing for me.
Speaker 4: And people think it's weird when I say that, But
Speaker 4: it's like I've never been high off of drugs. The
Speaker 4: highest high I've ever been or happy is either winning
Speaker 4: a boxing match or sex. It just that's it, I mean,
Speaker 4: Or let me think of something that made me happy
Speaker 4: eating good food. Yeah, sex is up.
Speaker 2: There, regardless of what's going on in your life. If
Speaker 2: you win a match, you good.
Speaker 4: It makes me feel really really good. And I don't
Speaker 4: let the people put the pressures of me of getting knockouts.
Speaker 4: I know that I'm an entertainment fighter. You're gonna get
Speaker 4: a nice fight, and you're gonna be happy that you came.
Speaker 4: But you're not going to pressure me to be upset
Speaker 4: over a win because I didn't get the knockout. Like,
Speaker 4: I think I worked too hard to let the casuals
Speaker 4: and the fans say, oh, you didn't get knockouts, so
Speaker 4: you're not good. It's like, but I beat the shit
Speaker 4: out of it though, you know so to me, winning
Speaker 4: is what matters because losing. If I was to lose
Speaker 4: a man, you think I'm viral now Lorid have mercy.
Speaker 5: I don't know if if there's a dumb question or not,
Speaker 5: but look right, So when guy's box, like I heard
Speaker 5: that they can't have sex like before the fight because
Speaker 5: it messes up like that.
Speaker 1: I guess adrenaline need to be pumped up or whatever.
Speaker 5: But is it the same with women like you can
Speaker 5: cauld you like have sex the night before you fight.
Speaker 5: Does it mess with you or does it take away
Speaker 5: from your energy? You're not examped up?
Speaker 4: No, I well won. I can't speak for the other
Speaker 4: female champions, but being pound for pound number one woman fighter,
Speaker 4: I don't have sex for the six weeks before a fight.
Speaker 4: I don't in any man I've been with know that
Speaker 4: like we can hug we can kids, but when they
Speaker 4: come to like the actual penetration part, nah, and even
Speaker 4: the it's not even about it's not about you said
Speaker 4: the word penetration. Crazy, It's not about it's not about that.
Speaker 4: It's about it's about coming orgasms, right, can't do that.
Speaker 4: So there's no type of form of sex for me,
Speaker 4: you know. And I feel like that gives me what
Speaker 4: I need for the fight because I'm Clarressa. But then
Speaker 4: when I fight, I'm Clarenzo hmm. And Clreenzo don't want No,
Speaker 4: he don't want to d.
Speaker 2: Has Clarrenzo ever showed up in the bedroom?
Speaker 4: Excuse me, not the green lady?
Speaker 2: No, what's a moment in your adulthood where you're healing?
Speaker 2: Surprised you, Clarissa, what's something that used to trigger you?
Speaker 2: You was like, oh that that don't bother me no more.
Speaker 2: You ain't get there, you know.
Speaker 4: I I think I think I've had this conversation with
Speaker 4: God a couple of times, like I'm never going to
Speaker 4: be the person that you slapped me, and I turn
Speaker 4: out the chicken you slap me again. You know, I
Speaker 4: don't think I'll ever get there, But do I want
Speaker 4: to get there? Sure? But I don't want people thinking
Speaker 4: it's okay to slap me. You know what's something that
Speaker 4: happened to me And I said, you know what, girl,
Speaker 4: you did a good job, but not to me. It's
Speaker 4: been always defending myself, sticking up for myself, speaking the truth.
Speaker 4: And I think that I think when the movie came out,
Speaker 4: I was tested the most constantly until now. Still you know,
Speaker 4: I pat myself on the back all the time. You said,
Speaker 4: I said, yeah, you may have responding to this, but
Speaker 4: you didn't respond to that. You know, you cut your
Speaker 4: phone off when you've seen this. But because it's some
Speaker 4: people who are not even qualified to speak on me,
Speaker 4: like up in no type of shape or form, Like
Speaker 4: you've never been number one in the world at what
Speaker 4: you do. Why are you talking to me? Why are
Speaker 4: you talking about me? You've never made a million dollars?
Speaker 4: You work for somebody. I don't. I caught a shot
Speaker 4: in my career, house cars, family, please, And then people
Speaker 4: feel like they can speak on me. And then even
Speaker 4: some of these trolls or whatever, and trolls also be
Speaker 4: like theseelebrities and I go and look and I think,
Speaker 4: tom it be the audacity they'd be Like, where did
Speaker 4: you get that from for you to even think you
Speaker 4: can come tell me about what I'm wearing, how I dress,
Speaker 4: how wear my hair, why I'm wearing braids when I
Speaker 4: box and I ain't wearing a lace front. You not
Speaker 4: even qualified to be talking to me. Go be number
Speaker 4: one in whatever your life is first, and then when
Speaker 4: you get up there to that Michael Jordan, Serena Williams,
Speaker 4: Beyonce Claressa Shields Era, then you come talk to me
Speaker 4: that So thought that'd be my issue. Wanted to check
Speaker 4: people and let them know, focus on your life, because
Speaker 4: focusing on my life. You don't get no money from me.
Speaker 4: I'm not ever gonna pay you for mind in my business.
Speaker 4: Go mind your business and you'll get to where you
Speaker 4: want to get to. So that be the thing for me,
Speaker 4: Like that's what I pat myself on the back because
Speaker 4: I may respond to stuff here, but it's been some stuff,
Speaker 4: some things that happened, and I've been like this man
Speaker 4: this whole I ain't qualified. Brother, she's not qualified to
Speaker 4: play with me like that, And that'd be my end.
Speaker 4: And I think that's my where I'm healing from because
Speaker 4: it's like, not only can I talk trash and I
Speaker 4: can get back at you with whatever you're saying. I
Speaker 4: can also beat your ass too, and that be for me,
Speaker 4: Like so many these people need to get They ask
Speaker 4: what I'm telling you, mercy.
Speaker 2: No, Lady Daniels is up next.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know I've done my research. She got
Speaker 4: a she got a nice past on her. You know
Speaker 4: she'dn't have been through some things. She lost the sibling
Speaker 4: due to I think Lou lou leukemia. She's tough. She's
Speaker 4: bringing her whole country of New Zealand with her to detrade.
Speaker 4: She thinks she can't be beat now. She got she
Speaker 4: lost early in her career, but I think she feels
Speaker 4: like now she can't be beating that. She's my toughest challenge.
Speaker 4: So I look forward to the fighting in July twenty sixth.
Speaker 3: That's right, July twenty six little Casar's Arena in Michigan.
Speaker 2: Hold on, I got one more question. How much motive
Speaker 2: did ESPN leaving you off the Trailblazing Athletes list? How much?
Speaker 2: How much did that motivate you? So you should have
Speaker 2: been on that?
Speaker 4: Yeah? But you know what, Once again, I like I said,
Speaker 4: I acknowledged it, and then I kept going on MO day, Right,
Speaker 4: I see this, This is what I'm not saying, and
Speaker 4: this is what I want the networks and people to understand.
Speaker 4: What I've learned. I've learned that they know that they
Speaker 4: do things that's wrong, especially to me, but they do
Speaker 4: it to get a reaction out of me because they
Speaker 4: want to get more views and clicks. Because because what
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do respond, I'm going to acknowledge it. So
Speaker 4: when I acknowledged it, I realized that one nobody paid
Speaker 4: attention to them. They little Trailblazer list anyway. That's for one,
Speaker 4: you would have got more clicks if you would have
Speaker 4: put me on there. Now that I actually brought it
Speaker 4: to everyone's attention and then they went and looked and
Speaker 4: seen what it was that got them more clicks and
Speaker 4: got them more likes. But it didn't motivate. It didn't
Speaker 4: motivate me at all because I got a spied. You understand,
Speaker 4: I'm saying, like I am everybody who they had the
Speaker 4: trail Blazer on that list, I've accomplished more than so I.
Speaker 4: It didn't motivate me at all. It just showed me
Speaker 4: like another hater somebody else who who trying to downplat
Speaker 4: my great and it's like it ain't great, but I
Speaker 4: know I'm the greatest, you know, and it's it's and
Speaker 4: it's hard to deny it, you know. Anybody say that
Speaker 4: they that they greater than me, asking what their accomplishments are.
Speaker 4: Look up they fights, look up their record. I mean,
Speaker 4: it's so much you gotta do. But I want to
Speaker 4: say to to to MVP, I'm the most victorious person.
Speaker 4: Fuck y'all period.
Speaker 2: You have it.
Speaker 3: Clisa Shields July twenty six, sixteen in Old Box of
Speaker 3: undisputed status in three weight divisions and we appreciate you
Speaker 3: for joining us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank y'all for having me.
Speaker 3: That's right, it's Clicia else. The Breakfast Club, good morning,
Speaker 3: Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 4: M HM.