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Speaker 1: It would be inappropriate if we didn't say congratulations to

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Speaker 2: Congrasp yeah West Logan.

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Speaker 3: Come on, man?

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Speaker 4: What four?

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Speaker 5: What?

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Speaker 6: Because you just got married?

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Speaker 3: I did? I did.

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Speaker 4: I just got back from a from a. I guess

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Speaker 4: it was the wedding and the honeymoon all combined.

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Speaker 6: Oh really?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: How long were you out in Utah?

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Speaker 4: I want to say eight days we were there? Five days? Like, no,

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, my math wrong. Seven days we were out

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Speaker 4: there and then yeah, you know it all runs together

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Speaker 4: when you know what you actually got married September twenty fifth.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yes, I do know that day.

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Speaker 6: How many years until he forgets on? Better not forget?

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Speaker 2: See, I'm late of easy. I got married in two thousand,

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Speaker 2: so I know, and in July, so I'm pretty good.

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Speaker 2: That'sh always around the four.

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Speaker 3: I tried to keep it.

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Speaker 4: We tried to keep it, or I guess I tried

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Speaker 4: to September twenty fifth when we got engaged. We got

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Speaker 4: married on September twenty fifth. Surely it's ground in my

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Speaker 1: I just saw a video the other day of a

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Speaker 1: anything you want to say to me?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 6: He's like no, and then she goes.

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Speaker 1: Nothing at all, like a day like today, and he's like,

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Speaker 1: what is your birthday? Here's a shovel, just keep digging. Yeah, well, congratulations, I.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate it was a It was a cool experience. It's

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Speaker 4: a whole different world out there. It's beautiful. Really, it's

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Speaker 1: So whose idea was Utah?

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Speaker 4: It was kind of a combination of me and her

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Speaker 4: the bad Lands when we went to South Dakota last

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Speaker 4: like paying for a wedding like the traditional spending twenty

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Speaker 4: five to thirty grand, and the one venue that she

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Speaker 4: we finally just got fed up with it, look like,

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Speaker 1: Wild to say to her when twenty five to thirty

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Speaker 4: I didn't say nothing, you know what I mean, But

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Speaker 4: just just the way our both our situations are, it

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Speaker 4: come back home and have a reception party here in

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Speaker 4: a little here in a few weeks and that'll be it.

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Speaker 6: Oh, that's cool, that's cool. Congratulations.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be on November fourth. It's the album

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Speaker 4: My LSU Game, so maybe it'll go okay.

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Speaker 1: Does it feel different being married compared to just having

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Speaker 4: Not really, except for this this ring on my finger,

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Speaker 4: I can't get used to They.

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Speaker 2: Had a lot of things will change.

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Speaker 3: I've been told.

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Speaker 2: He just better. But remember the early years.

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Speaker 6: Remember yep.

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Speaker 1: If you're just tuning into lines and times, I'm Spencer Graves.

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Speaker 1: I'm a radio personality. Wes Logan is a bas elite.

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Speaker 1: Joseph Webster is a bas elite. But one of the

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Speaker 1: greatest things is Joseph's been married for a while. The

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Speaker 1: coolest stories I think I've ever heard. Wes obviously just

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Speaker 1: got married. You've been with your girlfriend fiance now wife

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Speaker 1: for what five years?

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Speaker 4: Five years? A little over five years. So we got

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Speaker 4: I'm not to Joseph's level yet.

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Speaker 2: I changed my wife's life a long time ago.

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Speaker 1: The story, could you tell the story?

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Speaker 2: Come, we don't have time for this.

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Speaker 6: Well here I'll give you some highlights.

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Speaker 1: So, h Joseph's wife, Dia, was.

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Speaker 6: A single mom, and.

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Speaker 1: DIA's mom was not a fan of Joseph Webster sneaking

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Speaker 1: around her pretty flipping around.

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Speaker 2: That's a true story out there now, I can account

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Speaker 1: And as as their time went on, the mom started

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Speaker 1: Joseph was a good guy. And but I mean it

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Speaker 2: Well, you know we're not no GQ magazine here, and

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Speaker 2: you know we're all getting a B of our average here,

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Speaker 2: so absolutely so, you know, so I got her when

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Speaker 1: And she's okay with you fishing, which I think is

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, you find a girl that's okay with a

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Speaker 2: But you know it's just now I kind of where's

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Speaker 1: How difficult is it fishing when you're in a relationship.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you guys are on the road quite a bit.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's tough. I feel like, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, I quit for probably twelve or thirteen years when

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Speaker 2: you know, there's some guys right now on elites that

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Speaker 2: They better not because fishing won't always be here. Your

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Speaker 1: So what was it like personally for you when you

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Speaker 2: It wasn't a hard decision. I mean, you know, baseball

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Speaker 1: So I remember when you and I first met and

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Speaker 1: I met Dia. Deal is like, I'm happy to kind

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Speaker 1: because she really took it as you supporting you know,

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Speaker 6: Now your girls.

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Speaker 1: And she really kind of looked at that and said, man,

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Speaker 2: Well that's kind of when I had a tricked you know,

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Speaker 3: I got her.

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Speaker 1: So but this was a So this was a tough

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Speaker 1: Were you kind of resigning yourself to whatever happens happens.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think it was bothering her worship.

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Speaker 6: I know it was blowing me up all your.

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of you know, I don't say no them

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Speaker 6: Wes.

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Speaker 1: Now that you're married, your girlfriend fiance now wife has

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Speaker 1: How much does this marriage change your goals and aspirations

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Speaker 4: Uh, it's it's I don't know. I wouldn't say it's

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: And from the fishing standpoint, like she's she was there,

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Speaker 4: and uh, you know it was it's a whole different

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Speaker 3: Here if it wasn't for her.

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Speaker 6: So just the support of it.

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Speaker 4: Oh absolutely. I mean I when I met her, I

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Speaker 1: Honestly, by the last time that we talked, you know,

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Speaker 1: the open schedule kind of came out. How crazy is

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Speaker 1: it to know that there are guys that are going

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Speaker 1: after your jobs and they have to fish nine events.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a full tournament schedule on its own.

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Speaker 1: How difficult of a life is that?

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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 2: Well, I can tell you. I mean I know boys

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Speaker 2: And still they are putting theirselfs in a financial buying.

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Speaker 4: Hey, hey, I'm gonna be honest. It was her idea.

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Speaker 3: But like you go into these hotels and stuff. Man,

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Speaker 3: And you, I mean, you.

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Speaker 3: It's nothing crazy by it looks like.

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Speaker 1: Y'all have to watch your coin more than probably anybody

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Speaker 1: All right, Uh, I've already heard Wes's opinion on on

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Speaker 1: the schedule. There's one that sticks out, Joseph. It's your

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Speaker 2: Well, I think how it's gonna be. It's gonna be

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Speaker 2: but a spot. You know, you might pull in fish

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Speaker 1: Is it kind of feeling like what the Sabine River

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Speaker 2: No, I think the Sabine would be better.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, really, there's no doubt.

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Speaker 2: I mean, because you've got to catch fifteen inches on smith.

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Speaker 2: It ain't like they're gonna let us weigh in unders

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Speaker 2: I mean, the frustrating part to me is is I

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Speaker 2: be on the pontoon with friends. Oh that's right, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's and I bout made the mistake Saturday morning, I

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Speaker 1: I tell you, Ray that that's something that I kind

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Speaker 6: And that's your home late you have a cabin on

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Speaker 2: And I mean where the world's worst to go pick

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Speaker 2: And I mean, I can't even do that. I told

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Speaker 1: Back because you're missing then, I mean I am.

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Speaker 4: I saw it was when they came to Newly. I

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Speaker 4: You go by yourself. I mean, I ain't no fun.

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Speaker 4: But I don't know, I don't I don't know what

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Speaker 1: And sometimes the home lake is not all that it's

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Speaker 6: That's his home.

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Speaker 1: Lake lives in Silicagap and I hadn't even thought.

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Speaker 6: About that Lee Livesey. I'm what Lake four.

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Speaker 1: I mean those guys that comes out and they're sitting

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Speaker 4: From the Only difference is if you are considered a guide,

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Speaker 1: So you can be a pro vasilye angler and also

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Speaker 4: Yeah, now that in the twenty eight days like the

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Speaker 4: leading up to the tournament. Yes, you can't be on

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Speaker 2: Could take all the way to about June the first take.

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Speaker 3: Whoever, our client's out, all right.

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Speaker 1: So when I lived in Georgia, you don't have to

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Speaker 2: You don't own Smith Lake either. Only on inavitable waterways

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Speaker 2: light with booies and stuff like. That's the only place

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Speaker 2: by law you've got the house.

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Speaker 6: So technically anybody could be a guide.

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Speaker 2: Quote unquote before the schedule comes out.

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 4: I think in the rules though it does say license

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Speaker 4: schedule is announced. You can't like like Joseph couldn't go

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Speaker 4: get his now, Yeah, like I'm a guide or me,

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Speaker 4: like whoever, cancel the mail.

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Speaker 2: You don't.

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Speaker 6: You don't want that guide license to show up anytime.

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Speaker 2: It just it's just kind of frustrating.

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Speaker 1: So it's a loophole.

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Speaker 2: Well it is, but I mean I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 2: got to catch them. I mean I voted for it

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Speaker 2: for one reason.

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Speaker 5: It was just.

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Speaker 2: Because if they come to Smith, and they usually do

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's so interesting that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, even the off limits is you're not even fishing,

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Speaker 6: You're just out on the water. And they're like, Nope,

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Speaker 3: Can't be on the one, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, which I guess I appreciate too, because it does

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Speaker 2: Well, we can fish all tournament and draw out who

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Speaker 4: Boy, I'll look. Look, I voted for the same thing

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Speaker 6: And why is it not close?

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Speaker 4: Because you have people getting all that rule is set

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Speaker 4: there for us, for the honest guy and every one

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Speaker 2: Note that's that's that's true.

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Speaker 6: So say out of one hundred and three are being honest, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't probably twenty five percent.

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Speaker 3: I would check you could eat. I would check the

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Speaker 2: Huh. I mean in my eyes is and I mean men.

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Speaker 2: Lisa had to talk on Saturday about it. I said,

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Speaker 2: and just open it up would make it more fair

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Speaker 2: I think some of them has got it figured out,

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Speaker 3: The famous Gray area, the Gray Area.

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Speaker 1: I was riding with an angler in an event last year,

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't know because I'm not in

446
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Speaker 1: his mind, Like, and he's like, I've been here every

447
00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:22,760
Speaker 1: day for a week. I've never seen his boat in here.

448
00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:24,760
Speaker 1: And he pulls up and he finds a bed in

449
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Speaker 1: six feet of water. And then I just said, so

450
00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,200
Speaker 1: what do you think that is? And he goes, I'm

451
00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:35,600
Speaker 1: not saying he's getting information, but I'm wondering what's happening

452
00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,720
Speaker 1: to how he knows that exact spot is right there?

453
00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,760
Speaker 1: And karma came into play because the guy lost the

454
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Speaker 1: fish right the boat and that was shot. That was

455
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Speaker 1: shocking to me because I I mean, obviously I'm having

456
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Speaker 1: competed in tournaments to the level that you guys have,

457
00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,960
Speaker 1: But to watch something like that and then you hear

458
00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,640
Speaker 1: a professional angler go how does he know about that?

459
00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:57,080
Speaker 6: It makes you.

460
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Speaker 1: Wonder like there's got to be something where a guy

461
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Speaker 1: as you're getting information outside of the rules.

462
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Speaker 2: Reckon how the vote went.

463
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Speaker 4: I haven't I know the two or three people I

464
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Speaker 4: talked to feel the same way.

465
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Speaker 2: Mean you do the two or three people I talked

466
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Speaker 2: to voted no on it really and you voted yes.

467
00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:15,600
Speaker 2: I did.

468
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Speaker 3: I voted yes.

469
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Speaker 4: Or It wasn't a yes or no vote, it was

470
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Speaker 4: do you want to do you want to keep it

471
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Speaker 4: the same or do you want to make it a

472
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Speaker 4: free for all until the twenty eight days and then

473
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Speaker 4: our lie detector, you know, be based on the twenty

474
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Speaker 4: eight days.

475
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Speaker 1: What happens after a tournament? Like does everybody have to

476
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Speaker 1: go through a polygrapher?

477
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Speaker 6: Is it only the person that wins?

478
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Speaker 2: I think it's a draw. The person that wins don't

479
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:37,880
Speaker 2: even have to get polygraphed.

480
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Speaker 3: I didn't I when I won, I didn't get one.

481
00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,520
Speaker 4: Now that seems a little it's a it's a random

482
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:47,840
Speaker 4: draw on day day one too, But does draw at.

483
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Speaker 2: The end of day one?

484
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Speaker 6: You want an event?

485
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Speaker 1: Does it seem weird that you don't get asked?

486
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Speaker 4: I thought I was going to take one, like I mean,

487
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Speaker 4: I've I mean, you've taken polygraphs from Smith. I've taken

488
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Speaker 4: plenty of them at Neili Henry and everywhere, like you know,

489
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,680
Speaker 4: in team tournaments or something, and good enough to take

490
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Speaker 4: I just kind of I was just I mean, not that,

491
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 4: I mean I wasn't worried about it. I was just like, oh, well,

492
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,159
Speaker 4: that's just gonna be one of the things, and it

493
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,399
Speaker 4: never was. I actually took one at lay Lake this

494
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 4: year on day once because it was me and Ed.

495
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Speaker 4: I think they draw like, however, they.

496
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Speaker 2: First guy that weighs in pull it out of a hat.

497
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Speaker 4: How that was two random people on day one, and

498
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Speaker 4: then that's the two and they do that every for

499
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Speaker 4: all nine events.

500
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Speaker 1: Because obviously, you know, cheating, suspected cheating, and fishing has

501
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 1: been a hot button issue. I mean, I don't think

502
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Speaker 1: anybody that had a TikTok or social media. What was

503
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,640
Speaker 1: the year and a half ago during that walleye tournament

504
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Speaker 1: where we saw professional pro that's air quotes walleye fishermen

505
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 1: stuffing walleye with fish filets, and that's I mean that

506
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Speaker 1: that's crazy.

507
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Speaker 6: But these guys had.

508
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Speaker 1: Won over three hundred thousand dollars in money and boats,

509
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 1: and you know they they got put down. I mean

510
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,439
Speaker 1: to the fullest extent of the law. I mean, I

511
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Speaker 1: think both of them serve jail time if I'm not mistaken.

512
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 1: But when we see level of cheating like that, I

513
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,119
Speaker 1: think it opened up a lot of people's eyes. I mean,

514
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,439
Speaker 1: there were tournaments where I thought, on the local level,

515
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go fish that Wednesday night or or

516
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 1: that Saturday jackpot because it just seems too unregulated.

517
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Speaker 6: You know, a guy could have a bass box, and

518
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 6: you hear all.

519
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,200
Speaker 1: The stories about what people have done before to kind

520
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 1: of cheat in tournaments and how they've gotten caught. I mean,

521
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Speaker 1: there was one guy in the story that I heard

522
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:34,120
Speaker 1: where he convinced a homeowner who had a pondtoon had

523
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Speaker 1: a dock. He said, hey, let me bring my pontoon

524
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,639
Speaker 1: up and just let it sit on your dock. And

525
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 1: the home owner was like, oh, yeah, sure, no problem,

526
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,199
Speaker 1: didn't think anything of it. The guy went over and fished. Well,

527
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 1: little did his co in the back know that he

528
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 1: built this box in the back of the pontoon boat.

529
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Speaker 1: So he would just flip a jig or something like

530
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 1: that in there. It would just sit and he'd have

531
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Speaker 1: it loaded full of fish. He'd throw him in the

532
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Speaker 1: back and then he'd take off and he go. Finally,

533
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 1: during a lie detector that co had to provide a

534
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 1: lot of detector and they said, did you see anything suspicious?

535
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: And he said no, But somehow it made him think

536
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 1: there was and they followed the angler the next day

537
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 1: and went back to the same exact spot. They watched

538
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,199
Speaker 1: how it did it. As soon as he left, they

539
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 1: inspected the pontoon boat and they were like, that's what

540
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Speaker 1: he was doing.

541
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Speaker 2: Was that the flw days.

542
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Speaker 1: I can't I can't remember what tournament it was. I mean,

543
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Speaker 1: this is a story that somebody told.

544
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Speaker 2: Me he'd won nearly a million.

545
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a bunch of money, but that they

546
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 3: did catch him though.

547
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you guys are also, I mean, this is

548
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Speaker 1: what you do for a living. You know, Like if

549
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 1: I go out for a tournament, I'm doing it because

550
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Speaker 1: I got a couple hundred bucks that I that I

551
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: think I might be able to win back. But we

552
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,679
Speaker 1: all know in tournament fishing, if you want to make

553
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 1: a million dollars, you better have two million if you

554
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Speaker 1: want to make.

555
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 2: You know, there's thieves and everything, And I mean, you

556
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 2: talk about cutting a check, a ten thousand dollars check

557
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 2: when somebody's at a low in their life, it can

558
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 2: have and a lot of times, I think in the

559
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:07,199
Speaker 2: professional level, kind of agree gets into you and some

560
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 2: of these guys get a little success and it makes

561
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Speaker 2: it worse.

562
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Speaker 1: You know, earlier in the podcast, we were talking about

563
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 1: sponsorship when we brought up the opens and how there's

564
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: nine opens and a lot of these younger anglers and

565
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Speaker 1: the majority of them that are going for the opens,

566
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Speaker 1: they don't have sponsorship dollars. I sent Wes a video

567
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 1: yesterday because we were having a conversation earlier in the week.

568
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Speaker 1: Even in NASCAR when it comes to sponsorship, those teams

569
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: don't really have full.

570
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Speaker 6: Sponsorships for the entire year.

571
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Speaker 1: They're having to peel the paint and peel the wraps

572
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 1: off their vehicles and slap other sponsors on there, or

573
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: they have dual competing head sponsorships. So sponsorships at every

574
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Speaker 1: level are getting tight.

575
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I never realized they like the like you could

576
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 4: have two title deals pretty much like it would be

577
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 4: like us fishing five tournaments with so and so and

578
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 4: then five tournaments or four turns with snow and so like,

579
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Speaker 4: and they've split it up as I was pretty interesting.

580
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Speaker 1: Even when I worked in NASCAR, you know, back in

581
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Speaker 1: the early two thousands, you know, I was part of

582
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Speaker 1: Sony Racing, which was the secondary sponsor of all tail racing.

583
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Speaker 1: The driver was Ryan Newman the number twelve car and

584
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Speaker 1: Sony Racing was given. I think at the time two

585
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Speaker 1: races under their color scheme and their logo package. The

586
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 1: rest were all tell So everybody knew Ryan Newman. He

587
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: drives the Alltel car, but for two races it was

588
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Speaker 1: Sony Racing. And I mean with Sony Racing, we made.

589
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Speaker 6: A big deal about it. I mean when it was.

590
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Speaker 1: Our car, we were all there. It was a big deal.

591
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 1: But we were still on site when he was running

592
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Speaker 1: under All Tel because we'd have this little badge on

593
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Speaker 1: the backfender that said Sony Racing. I looked at the

594
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: cars at Talladega, at the most recent race.

595
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Speaker 6: That they had there.

596
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: Car logos and sponsorships are completely different. It's starting to

597
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: look more like a bass boat than anything else. I

598
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: mean we've all seen it. You look at somebody's boat.

599
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 1: You got some guys that have like five sponsors. You

600
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: got other guys that got fifty, and I mean every

601
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: available piece of space is there. It was crazy to watch.

602
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 2: I wonder in the best elites, how the numbers stack

603
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 2: up of sponsor money from top to bottom.

604
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 6: And you're talking about like.

605
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 2: Levels, how many who yes, like who gets the or

606
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 2: what would the top angler and the elites get sponsoralized?

607
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 2: And you know, how far down does it go that

608
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 2: people gets at least their interfees paid and you know,

609
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 2: expense money. I just wonder how how many people gets that.

610
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Speaker 1: It'd be interesting to dive into some of the sponsorships

611
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 1: that certain guys have, you know, not even not even

612
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 1: just to it's not to criticize, but it's more just

613
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: to kind of learn where do brand and where do

614
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: marketing professionals view this entity? Because that's what you guys

615
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 1: are an entity to these companies. They want to know

616
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: like if your social platform is getting up, or if

617
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: you're really good at doing interviews or you're awesome on stage.

618
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 1: I mean, we've talked about Gerald often. You know, Jerald

619
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 1: is probably the best when it comes to being on

620
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: stage right.

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00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 2: As good as you get.

622
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and yeah, he's the mold like you would want

623
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 3: to be.

624
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 6: Right you want to be.

625
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: But what he actually does is something that I that

626
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: I preach to a lot of people is he's.

627
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:33,239
Speaker 6: Who he is.

628
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: Wes Logan needs to be who wes Logan is. Jojo

629
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: needs to be who Jojo is. So if you can

630
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 1: maximize who you are and showcase it. That might get

631
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 1: you up with the sponsorship stuff. But then there are

632
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: guys that get sponsorships solely because they continue to win.

633
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: But it's more about how you can help sell for

634
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: a brand than it is how many fishs.

635
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 6: You put in a boat.

636
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 2: I don't know about that. I think a lot of

637
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 2: it in the industry is is maybe more who you know.

638
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 4: I was about to say, it's about relationship. Now you

639
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 4: do have to build some and that's I feel like

640
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 4: that's what I was fortunate to do.

641
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 3: I got in.

642
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 4: I kind of got my foot in the door when

643
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 4: I got my rookie and this kind of built up

644
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 4: every year. But I worked with some you do too,

645
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 4: some really good companies that I I mean, my companies

646
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 4: are like my family, like we're all very close. And

647
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 4: I have had situations with a few companies that didn't

648
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 4: feel that way and think that way, and I'm I'm

649
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 4: no longer with them. But it's a trying air deal too,

650
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 4: from the sponsorship wise, but I'm I would see I

651
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 4: talked to one of our guys or I have in

652
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 4: the past.

653
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 3: There's a pie. The fishing industry is a pie.

654
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 4: That pie has gotten no bigger, and the anglers have

655
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 4: off of it exactly, and so there's only only so

656
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 4: many slices that are going out, and them bigger ones

657
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 4: are staying big, and them smaller ones are getting smaller.

658
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 3: I mean, it's I.

659
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: Mean the amount of times that I get hit up

660
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: by just local anglers who are young. They're chasing the dream,

661
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: they want to become a professional fisherman. They're like, hey,

662
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: what do I need to do to get myself to

663
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: a level of a Joseph Webster or a Wes Logan.

664
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Speaker 1: I sit there and I go, look, they're looking for

665
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: the same sponsorship dollar that you're going for. They've built

666
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: their brand, they've built their company up. They know what

667
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: it takes. They've got to continue to work for the sponsor,

668
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: continue to sell for the sponsor, and they've got to

669
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: build those relationships that you guys were talking about. There

670
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: are a lot more people that are coming for that pie.

671
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: And I think too, a lot of these younger people

672
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 2: are coming in and saying, you know, we will take

673
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 2: a product deal and you know, and you know they're

674
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,719
Speaker 2: liable to throw it on their boat or you know,

675
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 2: give a.

676
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 3: Boat ute boat route for free product.

677
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 2: Free product and then at the end of the day,

678
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: you know they're going in a year or two because

679
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 2: they can't afford it. And really that's hurt a guy

680
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 2: that is trying to feed miles, you know, or put

681
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 2: gas in the tank, because it's just a one and

682
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 2: done deal. And you know, a lot of these sponsors

683
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 2: they're looking at if I do fifteen of these guys

684
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 2: that way, you know, I get a little more media

685
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 2: time if I spread my money that way, and then

686
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 2: you know, but it's just it's it's not easy, but is.

687
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 6: It quality media time?

688
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: Because that's what I would say to somebody, is just

689
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: because you have fifteen votes with your product on it,

690
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: if they're not there after a year, you're going to

691
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: have to try to fill that spot. Yeah, So if

692
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: you don't have somebody who's repping your brand talking about

693
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: your brand has created enough influence within the community that

694
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,719
Speaker 1: people trust and they want to buy with that person selling,

695
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: it's not going to help the brand anymore. It's a billboard,

696
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna see it. But people are always going to

697
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: gravitate to the people that they trust.

698
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 3: You know.

699
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, it would depend I guess it would depend on

700
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 4: a bit their business strategy from a company standpoint, because

701
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 4: if you got fifteen college dudes running your boat and

702
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 4: truck wrap all over the country fish in the college term.

703
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 4: But yeah, they may not have the following or the

704
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 4: media exposure to me and Jojo do, but they gonna

705
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 4: have to pay me in Jojo something to do it.

706
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 4: They don't have to pay them a dime, So I

707
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 4: guess they would have to weigh it. And I think

708
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 4: some companies think it's a good idea and some.

709
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 3: Of them don't.

710
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 4: So I guess it's just who's in charge what their

711
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:25,239
Speaker 4: marketing do. But yeah, you would think the media, like

712
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 4: your exposure, would come into play, but sometimes it does.

713
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 4: Sometimes I don't think it does.

714
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: Here's something I wanted to discuss because I saw West

715
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: post this the other day. How do you carry and

716
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: story or tackle? What are some different tricks that you

717
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: do that a lot of fishermen might not think about

718
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: Because for a while I was a big plastic bad guy.

719
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 3: Like a zip lock.

720
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I would take like all the individual packages

721
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: and I'd put them all on a zip lock and

722
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: that I'd label them green pumpkin.

723
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 4: Oh you saw my my omnia thing, dude, It is

724
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 4: the smartest thing in the world.

725
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: I can't believe I didn't think about it. Everybody what

726
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: you do?

727
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 4: So I take a a I normally do it with

728
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 4: like a coffee because I like the coffee scent, you

729
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 4: know how the whatever. So I'll take like coffee grounds

730
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 4: from Walmart, like it don't matter, like the cheap ones,

731
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 4: and I'll pour all the coffee ou because I like coffee.

732
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 4: But I put all my chunks in the coffee thing

733
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 4: and I just ride on the top of them. The

734
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 4: color and people have went crazy over that. I'm like, what,

735
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 4: I don't have to keep all those plastic bags in

736
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 4: my boat that blow out?

737
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 2: Well, you could be like one of mine is you know,

738
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 2: mix scent and power bait. You buy some of them packs,

739
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 2: you go down the road and you think somebody has

740
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 2: took a dump in your back seat and you go

741
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: to looking for it and you've got a bunch of

742
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: them in there, and you're like, which pack is it?

743
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 2: And that's just like who knows?

744
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: So where do you how do you store those types

745
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: of baits, the ones that have the powerful scent.

746
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: I try to keep them in the bags that come

747
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 2: in because I think if you open them up, it

748
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 2: just loses it. I think so, I mean.

749
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 4: The way that max sel is scent or the scent

750
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 4: is sealed, and I could because I mean, once you

751
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 4: take it out, it's never unless you use it right

752
00:32:58,960 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 4: then it's never the same.

753
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

754
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 6: So I saw your figure or whatever.

755
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: And my buddy David text me like right before we

756
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: started doing this podcast, and he goes, hey, I'm running

757
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: over to Mark's outdoors.

758
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 6: What do you need?

759
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: Open up in that bag and just set it there

760
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: because I ran out of these when I was jigging

761
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: on Logan Martin the other day.

762
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

763
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 3: Oh god, he got the rock color and everything.

764
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 6: I knew it. I knew it.

765
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: I said, I said, if you buy these, bring them

766
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: over to the studio because West Logan is gonna have

767
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: to take a look at what's in that bag.

768
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: Well, the thing about it is everybody on the coast

769
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 2: of the ain't but two colors that fire blue and

770
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 2: green pumpkin.

771
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 4: I mean, so if I say it, what what color

772
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 4: was in the was in the.

773
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 3: That's what he's got right here.

774
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: I started laughing because you know, I think a lot

775
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: of time we talked about confidence and baits and things

776
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: like that, and you know, I'm I'm learning how to fish.

777
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: So I'm learning what my confidence level is. And I

778
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: was out on a tournament the other day. It's just

779
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: one of these local charity tournaments and fishing with a

780
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: buddy of mine. We had five fish for nine pounds

781
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: and felt like we were okay. Winter got sixteen pounds,

782
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: and we found this pattern that was working.

783
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 3: Well.

784
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: What it had to do with the jig bite And

785
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: like an idiot, I'm not expecting them to bite my

786
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 1: jig right, like they'll bite everybody else. But I don't

787
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: expect because I don't fish it a lot. I'm starting

788
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: to fish it more now than I'm on the KUSO. Well,

789
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 1: they went through every one of my trailers. I mean

790
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: as soon as they hit that chunk, it was done. Well,

791
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: I was down to one like I was getting silk,

792
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: Like I was having to like turn it a little

793
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,919
Speaker 1: bit and work the hook in just so I could

794
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: keep it up and like keep it going. And then

795
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I'm on social media. I see

796
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: his posts and I'm like, that's what I need to do.

797
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: I need to get a bunch of these and then

798
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,240
Speaker 1: put him into those those little containers.

799
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 2: Well, there's the guy that used to make them all

800
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 2: over here? Is it alb what they used to call

801
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 2: himl LC. Yeah, that's the old timey five eighths. Nice

802
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 2: for what they've been for years over here. So Spence,

803
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 2: you got some of them? No, they don't. The West

804
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 2: don't bring you none.

805
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 3: No, we you still got so.

806
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: Though, I gotta get Yeah.

807
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 4: Hey, that was a that was a wild goose chase

808
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 4: this morning. We wouldn't tell you, but I got it though, I.

809
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 6: Hear the man.

810
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: So when it come when it comes to storage, though,

811
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: you know, I've been to your shop, Joseph, and and

812
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: your shop is Berkeley, Berkeley, Berkeley, like you have everything

813
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: laid out. You're meticulous. You probably border the.

814
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 6: Line on OCD.

815
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 2: It's probably it's probably not me, Oh really probably Okay.

816
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 2: You know, when you're controls a lot of things.

817
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: Remember, So when you guys are fishing a tournament and

818
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: anybody that has a bass boat, you've got your rod lockers,

819
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: and then you have your you know, day box and

820
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. What do you guys keep

821
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 1: ware that might be a little different than the next guy.

822
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. Mine's simple. Everybody looks in my boat says,

823
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 2: can't believe that's oh.

824
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: You carry, So what what makes your simple?

825
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: I just don't carry a lot.

826
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: I may not kind of, So you're not the type

827
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: of guy that thinks like, well, maybe I'll just try

828
00:35:58,600 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 1: to trick him with something else.

829
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 6: You go with what you think they're biting that week,

830
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 6: and that's it.

831
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 2: Yep, we're gonna send it.

832
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 3: That's that's I do the same thing.

833
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,439
Speaker 4: I'm not a big like trialing aer especially now if

834
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 4: like I'm just going fishing, I might like around the

835
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 4: house from just to try something different, but in practice

836
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 4: for an elite term, no, it's it's what I've called

837
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 4: a bass on.

838
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: But my friends like I've got buddies in mind, the

839
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: fishies local tournaments and they're running with every better tackle

840
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: they've ever bought in their entire life.

841
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: We have guys like I cleaned my boat out, especially

842
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: after practice, down to just what I think I'm gonna do.

843
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 2: I don't want my mind to play chicks on me,

844
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 2: because listen to horns can go off in a hurry anyway,

845
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 2: so I try to limit that.

846
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 6: That's wild.

847
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I need bought all all right?

848
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: Where do you guys keep your heavy terminal tackle, like

849
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: your weights and all that kind of stuff. You keep

850
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: that in the back to help load down the back

851
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: of the boat, or are you up front because it's

852
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: easy to grab when you've got the coffin open.

853
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: I keep mine up front. I don't care a lot

854
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: of it.

855
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 4: Mine's in the mine's in the front. But I I

856
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 4: don't have a lot of weight in my boat. Like

857
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 4: there's I got one the middle sections, got like ten

858
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 4: boxes in it, and there's a few of those clear

859
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 4: bigger bags.

860
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 3: In the right hand rod locker. And know is it?

861
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: You guys keep your boats really clean up until uh,

862
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: up until the tournament, because I know the tournament you're.

863
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 2: Just kind of going through whatever most of the time.

864
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, Because I.

865
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: Rode into pros boat the other day that a buddy

866
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: of mine bought, and that thing was beat to hell.

867
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 6: I destroyed, dirty, dirty dirty.

868
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: I was like, I felt bad sitting in that boat

869
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 1: because I'm like, I don't know how any baking fish

870
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: out of this.

871
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 4: That's one of the main reasons I like to keep

872
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 4: mine for like, if a marshall gets in my boat,

873
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 4: I don't want them going someay saying, and his boat

874
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 4: was a rig man.

875
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 2: So the boat that got bought, did the owners see

876
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 2: it beforehand. Uh No, maybe I need to sell mine

877
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 2: that way. I need a guy like that to call

878
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:52,439
Speaker 2: me want mine.

879
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 1: I started Uh, I started laughing because you know, you

880
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: were talking about how you didn't want a marshall to see,

881
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: you know, and talk bad about your boat and all

882
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. One of the best tournaments that

883
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: I was riding in last year as an elite, that

884
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: angler was so proud to tell me what they were biting.

885
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: He opened up his live well and I swear to god,

886
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: there were twenty dead shad and he's like, they've been

887
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: in here since Monday and this was Saturday. Gosh mind,

888
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: And I'm like, how do you do it? Like me,

889
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: I'd be like, I can't. I couldn't do it. I'd

890
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: have to clean it out that day. But I've also

891
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: never had that much bait in my live well because

892
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: I don't put any fish.

893
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 6: In a live well.

894
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 2: So reckon what that would smell like? Can you shop

895
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 2: after a few days?

896
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,240
Speaker 3: Like I don't understand, like brutal.

897
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 2: You wouldn't forget it when you throwed the lid open.

898
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 4: No, you would barely smell it when you open the door.

899
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 4: Where where's it coming from? And then when you opened

900
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 4: the livl it'd be a big game.

901
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 6: I mean I was.

902
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: I was sitting in the boat. I wasn't even close

903
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: to the live. Well, I think I was up front

904
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: because he was moving around doing stuff. He opened up

905
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: the lid and I could smell it. We were out

906
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: on the water. I mean, that's how punging it on was.

907
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 2: No.

908
00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:00,760
Speaker 1: The marketing side of hunting and fishing is is wild.

909
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: Like all three of us like to hunt. You know,

910
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 1: Wes has been up at a farm in Tennessee that

911
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: he's got a lease on this year, and fortunately I

912
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: can't hunt until December because I'm not going to pay

913
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: an out of state tag in Alabama.

914
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 6: And I waited on getting my license. That's a whole

915
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 6: nother story.

916
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 2: You know, it's not illegal if you don't get caught.

917
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 3: That's uh.

918
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 6: That's Joseph Webster. He lives on the.

919
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: Other side of the state.

920
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, you guys want to check him out. But you know,

921
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 6: it's so funny.

922
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 2: Is I got my license?

923
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 6: You're a good man?

924
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're good.

925
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 6: Well, it's funny.

926
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: Is I went over to Joseph's house one day and

927
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: this is last season. We were talking about doing some

928
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: hunting and uh. And I walk out of his front

929
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: door west and I kid you not, he had some

930
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: absolute slammers fifteen yards away from where his boat is parked.

931
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:49,919
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

932
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 1: And he feeds him and I said, man, why don't

933
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: we just get the bows out and we'll just right here.

934
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 1: He goes, now, those are pets, pets.

935
00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 2: Well, then we're not really my pets. Them are number

936
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 2: But yeah, she's got out where she even tries to

937
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 2: talk to him now, and I'm like, that's not good.

938
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 5: Nah.

939
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 6: See, this is what you have to look forward to.

940
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: This is this is the you know, guy that's been

941
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: married for a while, your wife is going to get

942
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 1: to a point where she's trying to talk to deer.

943
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 3: Does does deal like to hunt?

944
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 2: Well, well, I've got a story behind that.

945
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 3: She got one last year he did.

946
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 2: So that story was we went and sat in the

947
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 2: shooting house. It was on my birthdays. Come on, let's go.

948
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 2: It was a big shooting house. Was sitting there and

949
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 2: we're looking down there and there walks out three all

950
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 2: of them probably seventeen inches wide. And I'm like, she's like, boy,

951
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 2: they're goode Oh yeah, yeah, I said, want you shoot

952
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 2: one of them? Well, I might. I'm like, look, if

953
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 2: you're I mean, I only had my gun, and I said,

954
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 2: if you're gonna hunt and you're going to kill one,

955
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: you know you're gonna want your picture made with it.

956
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 2: So you've got to have hunt license before you kill

957
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 2: this deer if that's what you're going to do. So

958
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 2: she said, well, I'll think about it and we'll let

959
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 2: in a minute. I looked over and bore she was on.

960
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 5: The phone and that stupid little did they know she's

961
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 5: pretty quick on the phone.

962
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 2: Yea dead dear so. But anyway, but.

963
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: My phone starts going off, Oh yeah, and it's a

964
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: picture of her beaming.

965
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 3: That's good.

966
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 6: I mean brow time to brow time.

967
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 2: She's just yeah, she's good.

968
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: And she's like, I think we're gonna put this up

969
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: on social media. I was like, that's a that's a

970
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 1: hanger right there. That's a good one.

971
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 2: So well, that's pretty good. But you know them around

972
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 2: the hoiuse though, that's just kind of off limits. So

973
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 2: Leevie'd be probably the only one to shoot one of them.

974
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 2: But you know, Wes, when you get married, women control

975
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: a lot of things and a lot of angles, so

976
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 2: you just keep that in mind.

977
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 3: I will I will. Don't worry. Don't worry. I've done,

978
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 3: but I figured it out any.

979
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 2: Well, if you hadn't, they'll let you know.

980
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 6: Too good, too good.

981
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: This has been lines and times. I'm Spencer Graves, that's

982
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: West Logan, that's Joseph Webster.